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Why Trump & Musk Must Unite plus Unpacking the 12 Country Travel Ban · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Well, let's just go ahead and address the elephant in
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Speaker 1: the room. There is a back and forth it has
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Speaker 1: taking place by the most powerful man in the world,
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Speaker 1: the President, Donald J. Trump, and the richest man in
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Speaker 1: the world, Elon Musk. There is a lot to say
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Speaker 1: about this, but I'm going to actually keep it pretty short.
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Speaker 1: And the reason why is this isn't good for any
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Speaker 1: of our conservative values to have a in infighting at
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Speaker 1: this level. This is a gift to the liberals. It
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Speaker 1: is a gift to the liberal media. It is a
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Speaker 1: gift to the left because they're getting exactly what they want.
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Speaker 1: They want Elon Musk and Donald Trump to not get along.
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Speaker 1: I put out a statement earlier today and I'm going
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Speaker 1: to read it to you.
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Speaker 2: Trump is not wrong. Elon Musk is not wrong.
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Speaker 1: Elon is working under the assumption, unfortunately, that Congress actually
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Speaker 1: he wants to do the job and wants to save
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Speaker 1: our country. Elon Musk is honestly where my head would
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Speaker 1: have been twenty years ago. But I've seen too much
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Speaker 1: of these sausage it's being made. He has an assumption
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Speaker 1: that it can't be this corrupt, that Congress should actually
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Speaker 1: want to work and do its job. For the American people.
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Speaker 1: That is why Elon Musk is so angry about the big,
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Speaker 1: beautiful bill with good reason. Then there is Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: who's working under the reality that these people are absolutely
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Speaker 1: scum in Congress, by the way, many of them Republicans,
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Speaker 1: and you cannot get anything perfect pass through the current
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Speaker 1: legislation or legislators that we currently have in Washington. Now,
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump understands what it means to actually drain the swamp.
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Speaker 1: He understands how many swamp creatures are still there. He
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Speaker 1: understands how many swamp creatures are within the Republican Party.
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Speaker 1: And that's why I say Trump isn't working under the
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Speaker 1: reality that these people in Washington are absolute scum, and
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Speaker 1: he knows that he cannot get a perfect bill pass
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Speaker 1: with this many scumbags in Congress. Now, let me also
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Speaker 1: talk about the things that Elon Musk is also, by
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Speaker 1: the way, right about. I think we can all agree
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Speaker 1: that we would love a bill that eliminates the entire
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Speaker 1: corrupt irs. We would love a bill that gets rid
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Speaker 1: of all the government ways fraud and abuse. We would
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Speaker 1: love to have some of these agencies completely gutted and
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Speaker 1: have an administrative state that disappears the way it's being run.
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Speaker 1: If we had that bill, there's also the other reality,
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Speaker 1: it probably wouldn't even get twenty votes in the House
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Speaker 1: of Representatives because there is so many swamp creatures there.
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Speaker 2: Yes, many of them have the R next to their name.
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Speaker 1: Now, the bill on the floor, Donald Trump understands is
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Speaker 1: probably about as good as it's going to get with
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Speaker 1: the current crap that we have in Congress.
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Speaker 2: Represent the people, and.
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Speaker 1: Elon Musk is absolutely right to be angry about what's
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Speaker 1: in this bill. There are things in this bill that
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Speaker 1: I would love to get rid of. But I also
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Speaker 1: know that I'd rather have this bill than have no
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Speaker 1: deal done at all and have taxes skyrocket and hurt
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Speaker 1: Americans and have liberals in essence win. So I go
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Speaker 1: back to what I said a moment ago. Elon is
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Speaker 1: not wrong. Donald Trump is also not wrong. But I
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Speaker 1: want to say this clearly. I do not believe that
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Speaker 1: Elon is our enemy. I believe that AOC and the
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Speaker 1: Biden crime family, and the Obama family, and the Clinton family,
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Speaker 1: and the mainstream media and the corrupt individuals at PBS
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Speaker 1: and NPR, they are the enemy.
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Speaker 2: Elon Musk is not the enemy.
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Speaker 1: I think America should forever be grateful, forever be indebted
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Speaker 1: to Elon Musk for doing what he did, saving free
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Speaker 1: speech by buying Twitter, exposing the corruption in the silencing
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Speaker 1: and censoring of conservatives that were on Twitter, exposing the
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Speaker 1: corruption in social media that has changed drastically since he
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Speaker 1: bought Twitter and turned it into X. He risked everything
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Speaker 1: to save free speech in this country. We now know
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Speaker 1: how big of an impact he's had on free speech.
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Speaker 1: Things that you used to not be able to say
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Speaker 1: on social media you can now say again.
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Speaker 2: Things that used to get.
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Speaker 1: You kicked off of social media because you were a
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Speaker 1: conservative and you wanted to expose waste fraud, abuse or
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Speaker 1: ask questions about a vaccine used to get you silenced.
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Speaker 1: Let's be clear, social media would not be what it
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Speaker 1: is right now if it wasn't for Elon Musk fighting back.
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Speaker 2: There's also something else.
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Speaker 1: That Elon has done that I will forever be grateful for.
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Speaker 1: He exposed the level of waste, fraud and abuse that
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Speaker 1: we have within our government. This will pay dividends for
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Speaker 1: years to come, because now the majority of Americans realize
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Speaker 1: that the government is not working for them, It is
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Speaker 1: stealing from them and then hooking up their friends and
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Speaker 1: family members and donors with ridiculous amounts of money. He
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Speaker 1: also exposed the level of waste in overseas transactions and
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Speaker 1: just pure corruption. He has shown us exactly how broken
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Speaker 1: our government is. So I go back to what I
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Speaker 1: said a moment ago. Elon is not wrong, and he's
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Speaker 1: also not our enemy.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: The final thing I'll say is this, I genuinely hope
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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump and Elon Musk can stop having this war.
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Speaker 1: I hope that they will go back to talking like
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Speaker 1: men to one another behind closed doors. I think both
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Speaker 1: men have done amazing things for this country, and I
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Speaker 1: think both men are playing into the trap right now
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Speaker 1: that the left and the liberal media have been wanting
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Speaker 1: to happen since day one. Elon Musk is going to
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Speaker 1: go back to his private life and the work that
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Speaker 1: he's done. I do not want it to be undone
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Speaker 1: because of this war. I also want to be clear,
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is working under the reality of the situation
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Speaker 1: that Washington is broken, that there are a lot of
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Speaker 1: scumbag politicians, including Republicans, and you cannot get anything perfect
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Speaker 1: pass through the current legislators that we have in Washington.
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Speaker 1: So as I wrap this point up, I want to
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Speaker 1: say this, I am hoping for a very quick reconciliation
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Speaker 1: between these two brilliant minds. I'm hoping that they can
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Speaker 1: at least be civil, because of civil war between these
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Speaker 1: two men only helps the radical left. By the way,
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Speaker 1: I'm not the only one that looks at this this way.
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear Sean Hannity and Senator Cruz
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Speaker 1: on Hanndity's show on Fox and what they had to
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Speaker 1: say about this. I spent actually last night and the
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Speaker 1: day before was Sean Handity done in Florida. It was
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Speaker 1: a really a fun time as many of us in
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Speaker 1: the radio industry were having an event down there with Premiere,
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Speaker 1: the company that syndicates us and iHeartMedia that does this
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Speaker 1: show in others, and none of us. I think it's
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Speaker 1: pretty clear wanted this to happen with this type of war,
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Speaker 1: and I think we all have the same feeling. Elon
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Speaker 1: Musk has done incredible things, and Donald Trump's done incredible things,
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Speaker 1: and we need to make sure that this doesn't turn
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Speaker 1: into the best gift in history for the Democrats.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen to what they said about it. Godig
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Speaker 2: Party Senator let me get your take.
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Speaker 3: What's your take on you know, when you have two
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Speaker 3: very powerful men, Elon Musk Donald Trump, they have a
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Speaker 3: policy disagreement. It was less than a week ago. They
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Speaker 3: had the nicest goodbye you get ever want. So I'm
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Speaker 3: not exactly sure what happened. Not surprising in a way
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Speaker 3: because but I hope it gets settled.
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Speaker 2: What's your thoughts?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I think it's incredibly unfortunate. You and I
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Speaker 4: are both good friends with President Trump, and we're both
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Speaker 4: good friends with Elon Musk. They're both extraordinary men, and
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Speaker 4: they've both done extraordinary things for our country. Elon is
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Speaker 4: an incredible inventor and business leader. His buying Twitter was
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Speaker 4: massively important. His leadership of Doze for President Trump was
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Speaker 4: massively important. President Trump is doing phenomenal work every single day.
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Speaker 4: His victory pulled this country back from the abyss. I'll
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Speaker 4: tell you, Sean, I was in the Oval Office with
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Speaker 4: the President when this back and forth began. And it's
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Speaker 4: really unfortunate. They are both I think American heroes. They're
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Speaker 4: both incredibly strong leaders. And listen, it's obvious they're both
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Speaker 4: pissed off right now. I hope that that both of
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Speaker 4: them come back together, because when the two of them
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Speaker 4: are working together, we'll get a lot more done for
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Speaker 4: America than when they're at cross purposes. And I got
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Speaker 4: to say, on the merits, I think both of them
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Speaker 4: are right. President Trump is absolutely right we have to
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Speaker 4: get this one big, beautiful bill pass, and we're going to.
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Speaker 4: But Elon is absolutely right that we need to make
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Speaker 4: the bill better, and I think the Senate is going
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Speaker 4: to we need to cut more spending, and I think
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Speaker 4: the Senate is going to I was in the Oval
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Speaker 4: Office laying out multiple spending cuts that we could include
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Speaker 4: to make this bill better. That's the outcome I hope
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Speaker 4: we end up because that's the outcome that really delivers
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Speaker 4: for the American people.
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Speaker 1: into another issue now that's very important, and that is this.
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Speaker 1: President Donald Trump signed a proclamation reinstating a travel band
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Speaker 1: that restricts entry into the United States for citizens of
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Speaker 1: twelve countries wine. The President citing national security concerns. Now
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Speaker 1: the policy is set to take effect very quickly on
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Speaker 1: June the ninth. There are twelve country treason are listed,
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Speaker 1: and the President had this to say about it is
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Speaker 1: he announced it from the Oval Office.
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Speaker 5: The recent terror attack in Boulder, Colorado has underscored the
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Speaker 5: extreme dangers posed to our country by the entry of
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Speaker 5: foreign nationals who are not properly vetted, as well as
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Speaker 5: those who come here as temporary visitors and overstay their visas.
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Speaker 2: We don't want them.
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Speaker 5: In the twenty first century, we've seen one terror attack
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Speaker 5: after another carried out by foreign visa overstairs from dangerous
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Speaker 5: places all over the world, and thanks to Biden's open
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Speaker 5: door policies, today there are millions and millions of these
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Speaker 5: illegals who should not be in our country. In my
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Speaker 5: first term, my powerful travel restrictions were one of our
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Speaker 5: most successful policies, and they were a key part of
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Speaker 5: preventing major foreign terror attacks on American soil. We will
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Speaker 5: not let what happened in Europe happen to America. That's
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Speaker 5: why on my first stay back in office, I directed
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Speaker 5: the Secretary of State to perform a security review of
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Speaker 5: high risk regions and make recommendations for where restrictions should
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Speaker 5: be imposed. Among the national security threats their analysis considered
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Speaker 5: are the large scale presence of terrorists, failure to cooperate
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Speaker 5: on visa security, inability to verify travelers' identities, inadequate record
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Speaker 5: keeping of criminal histories, and persistently high rates of illegal
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Speaker 5: visa overstays, and other things. Very simply, we cannot have
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Speaker 5: open migration from any country where we cannot safely and
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Speaker 5: reliably vet and screen those who seek to enter the
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Speaker 5: United States. That is why today I am signing a
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Speaker 5: new executive order placing travel restrictions on countries including Yemen, Somalia, Haiti, Libya,
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Speaker 5: and numerous others. The strength of the restrictions we're applying
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Speaker 5: depends on the severity of the threat post The list
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Speaker 5: is subject to revision based on whether material improvements are made,
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Speaker 5: and likewise, new countries can be added as threats everge
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Speaker 5: around the world.
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Speaker 2: But we will not.
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Speaker 5: Allow people to enter our country who wish to do
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Speaker 5: us harm. And nothing will stop us from keeping America
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Speaker 5: saying thank you very much.
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Speaker 1: The President going through that list again, Afghanistan, Burma, Chad,
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Speaker 1: the Republic of the Congo, Hecreatorial Guinea, Haiti, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan,
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Speaker 1: and Yemen. There are also partial restrictions on seven different
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Speaker 1: countries Burundi, Cuba, Laos, Sirira, Leone, Togo, Turns, Megistan, and Venezuela.
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Speaker 1: The partial restrictions involve limitations on immigrant and certain non
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Speaker 1: immigran visas, but some temporary visas may still be granted
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Speaker 1: with those quote partial restrictions on the seven countries I
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Speaker 1: just listed now. As President Trump stated, the ban aims
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Speaker 1: to protect the United States from individuals who may pose
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Speaker 1: threats to national security, citing concerns over terrorism, inadequate vetting processes,
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Speaker 1: and high visa overstay rates in the US. He referenced
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Speaker 1: a recent attack in Boulder allegedly perpetrated by an Egyptian
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Speaker 1: national and a catalyst for the new policy. Now, the
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Speaker 1: administration also pointed to deficiencies and information sharing and an
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Speaker 1: identity management protocols and effected countries which hinder effective screening
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Speaker 1: and vetting of travelers. The travel band has already faced criticism.
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Speaker 1: Don't worry from the left, as they will do anything
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Speaker 1: to stand up for illegal immigrants and even those that
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Speaker 1: are committing atrostes against Americans. It is very clear there's
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Speaker 1: two ways of things on this issue. The conservative way,
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Speaker 1: the Trump way, is to protect American citizens, and the
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Speaker 1: left is to advocate and protect the illegal immigrants, even
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Speaker 1: those that are on terrifts watch lists. Now Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: isn't the only one saying that this is exactly what
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Speaker 1: needed to happen. Senator Tom Cotton, a man that served
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Speaker 1: as country overseas in many parts of the world where
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Speaker 1: these travel bands are happening, went on Fox and Friends
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Speaker 1: and had this to say.
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Speaker 6: So. President Trump banning travel from twelve countries and placing
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Speaker 6: restrictions on seven others in the wake of national security
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Speaker 6: concerns related to the Boulder terror attack.
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Speaker 5: The strength of the restrictions were applying depends on the
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Speaker 5: severity of the threat posts. The list is subject to
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Speaker 5: revision based on whether material improvements are made, and likewise,
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Speaker 5: new countries can be added as threats emerge around the world.
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Speaker 6: And in a separate proclamation, he moved to officially block
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Speaker 6: new foreign students from getting visas to attend Harvard University,
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Speaker 6: urging his administrator to consider revoking current visas as well,
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Speaker 6: and keep in mind those over one hundred thousand Chinese students.
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Speaker 4: Here.
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Speaker 6: Here to discuss is Arkansas Center Center and Harvard grad Center.
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Speaker 2: Tom Cotton the Center.
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Speaker 6: First off, on the ban of those nations, how do
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Speaker 6: you feel about it?
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Speaker 7: I command the President for implementing this badly needed and
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Speaker 7: overdue ban on countries where we really can't vet anyone.
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Speaker 7: Countries have a history of known violence and terrorism. Take
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Speaker 7: for instance, Haiti and Somalia. You have gang violence that
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Speaker 7: is basically controlling all of Haiti. You have Islamic terrorism
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Speaker 7: across Somalia. And what does it even mean to vet
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Speaker 7: someone from those countries? There's no governing institutions there that
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Speaker 7: can do background checks. This has long been a lie
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Speaker 7: from the left wing about how we're going to do
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Speaker 7: background checks on illegal immigrants or people coming from dangerous countries.
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Speaker 7: It's simply not possible. I mean, consider what we do
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Speaker 7: for young Americans who want to go in the military
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Speaker 7: or the law enforcement. You know, they have to say
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Speaker 7: where they've You call up the police department, you call
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Speaker 7: the state police, you do background checks, you make sure
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Speaker 7: they're suited for the job. There are no institutions in
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Speaker 7: many of these countries where you can do these things.
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Speaker 7: So this is another common sense victory for President Trump
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Speaker 7: and America Safety.
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Speaker 6: Sentaer Congressman Dan Goldman says, it's because they're not white.
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Speaker 6: That's why Trump is looking to ban and limit them.
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Speaker 7: Now, it's because they're dangerous and they could get us killed.
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Speaker 7: We's all over the weekend in Boulder, Colorado. The danger
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Speaker 7: of having foreign nationals come into this country without being
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Speaker 7: properly vetted. In many countries they can't be properly vetted.
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Speaker 7: We shouldn't allow people in from those countries if they're
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Speaker 7: going to pose a risk to Americans.
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Speaker 2: So one thing is for sure on this travel band.
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Speaker 1: The left is going to tell you that this is
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Speaker 1: racist and big ed, and this is banning people based
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Speaker 1: on the color of their skin.
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Speaker 2: They are going to play the race card, so be
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Speaker 2: ready for it.
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Speaker 1: The second thing is this is absolutely the right thing
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Speaker 1: to do by the President of United States of America.
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Speaker 1: We've actually we had travel bands on these countries before,
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Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, this is what the left and
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Speaker 1: the media are going to do. They're going to say
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Speaker 1: that this is racist. What the President's clearly trying to
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Speaker 1: do is protect American citizens and also make sure that
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Speaker 1: there is proper vetting. There is not proper vetting for
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Speaker 1: many of the countries that were listed at all. We
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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what these people may have done in
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Speaker 1: their countries before they're coming to America. We should know
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Speaker 1: a lot more before we allow them in. And then
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Speaker 1: there's the.
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Speaker 2: Third aspect of this.
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Speaker 1: Many of the people that come from these countries deliberately
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Speaker 1: overstay their welcome in the US.
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Speaker 2: They overstay their visas.
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Speaker 1: So why would we keep giving visas out to people
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Speaker 1: from certain countries that abuse the system the way that
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Speaker 1: it's being abused.
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Speaker 2: You look at all of this.
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Speaker 1: And what the President is simply trying to do is
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Speaker 1: make sure that we don't have more of the situations
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Speaker 1: that we just had in Colorado. We also have another
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Speaker 1: reason why the travel band should be put in place
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Speaker 1: and you should support it, and that is this, we
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Speaker 1: have far too many people in this country illegally right now.
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Speaker 1: We have far too many people from many of these
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Speaker 1: nations that we're talking about that are in this country
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Speaker 1: that are overstaying their visas right now. We must clean
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Speaker 1: up the mess in this country. Instead of bringing in
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Speaker 1: more people, we have to clean up our mess that
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Speaker 1: we allowed to happen under the last administration. There are
20:32
Speaker 1: millions and millions of illegal immigrants in this country. Many
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Speaker 1: of them are threats to our national security. We have
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Speaker 1: ICE that is working around the clock to try to
20:43
Speaker 1: take the worst of them out of this country and
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Speaker 1: to port them. We have a broken system, even with
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Speaker 1: a border now that's very secure. We must fix the
20:55
Speaker 1: problem before we allow so many more people to keep
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Speaker 1: coming in at a high rate of visa overstay. So
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Speaker 1: I got to say this is a smart move by
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Speaker 1: the president. I actually think this is something that's overdue.
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Speaker 1: It's sad that it took the terrorist attack in Colorado
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Speaker 1: to get us to the point we could do this again.
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Speaker 2: But I'm glad that we're doing it now.
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Speaker 1: And for anyone that criticized the President for doing this,
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Speaker 1: I got to ask you the question, whose side are
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Speaker 1: you on the safety of the American people? Are the
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Speaker 1: side of the terrorists that are coming into this country
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Speaker 1: and exploiting our system. The Trump administration is very upset
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Speaker 1: right now with many American universities who are allowing anti
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Speaker 1: Semitism to explode on college campuses. Columbia is a perfect
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Speaker 1: example of this. We're a protester and self proclaimed Jew
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Speaker 1: hater we now have learned had direct links to Hamas terracel.
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Speaker 1: This coming from disturbing phone records. As the DOJ is
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Speaker 1: revealing all of this. A Jew hater quote unquote who
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Speaker 1: protested against Israel on Colombia University's campus and contemplated we
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Speaker 1: now have learned setting a student on fire allegedly had
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Speaker 1: a direct link to the Hamas Deadly al Casom Brigade
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Speaker 1: militant group. The post is now revealing the man is
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Speaker 1: now a wedding trial after being indicted on three federal
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Speaker 1: hate crimes against Jewish people. He was a member of
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Speaker 1: a chat group that received regular updates from the terrorist
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Speaker 1: organization as well, and the accusation is the first evidence
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Speaker 1: of an agitator receiving information directly from Hamas and taking
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Speaker 1: action during protests on the University of Colombia campus.
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Speaker 2: Now, the individual was twenty.
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Speaker 1: I want to be clear, he was not a Columbia student,
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Speaker 1: but he was on the campus protesting. He frequently wore
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Speaker 1: the green headband used by Hamas terras and boasted to
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Speaker 1: friends about having relatives overseas who were actually a part
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Speaker 1: of the terror group. This all coming from the DOJ
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Speaker 1: court filing. While on Columbia's campus during protests in April
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Speaker 1: of last year, the individual allegedly Texas palse saying he
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Speaker 1: lit a flare and considered lighting someone on fire, but
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Speaker 1: that there was quote too many people around him to
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Speaker 1: take on otherwise he would have hurt them. A Columbia
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Speaker 1: university said has quote no record of the man being
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Speaker 1: on campus and wanted to quote be clear that this
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Speaker 1: individual is not affiliated with our university in any way.
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Speaker 1: All right, so why did you allow him to protest
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Speaker 1: on your campus? The university added that the school quote
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Speaker 1: strongly condemns anti Semitism and violence, and we are horrified
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Speaker 1: by the violence and hate crimes described in the incident. Well,
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Speaker 1: you can say that all you want, but the reality
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Speaker 1: is Columbia University has allowed this hate to grow on
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Speaker 1: its campus, which brings me to the second part of
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Speaker 1: the story. The Trump administration is now escalating pressure on
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Speaker 1: Columbia as the Education Department is questioning the university's accreditation altogether.
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Speaker 2: Here's more of the story from Fox News.
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Speaker 8: The Trump administration is not backing down as it continues
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Speaker 8: its crackdown on campus anti semitism. The State Department is
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Speaker 8: vowing to investigate the visa status of anti Israel protesters
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Speaker 8: who are arrested after storming the school library this week.
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Speaker 9: The nature of our promise that people who are in
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Speaker 9: this country with the visa angelaus or affect the nature
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Speaker 9: of what's important to our country when it comes to
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Speaker 9: our foreign policy and national security, will be acted on
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Speaker 9: in that regard. And yes, he said it, and I
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Speaker 9: believe them, And that's the word you can take for it.
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Speaker 8: Let's bring in Ellie Kohanum, senior fellow at the Independent
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Speaker 8: Women's Forum and former US Deputy Special Envoy to combat
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Speaker 8: Anti Semitism. Ellie, this turmoil at Columbia has been going
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Speaker 8: on for quite a while. Now, how would you assess
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Speaker 8: the administrations, the Columbia administration's efforts to try to squelch
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Speaker 8: anti Semitism on campus.
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Speaker 10: John, We are now nineteen months into this despicable, violent
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Speaker 10: and pro terror movement that's taking place all across our
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Speaker 10: campuses and at Columbia University, which is my own shameful
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Speaker 10: alma mater, and I would tell you that, yes, what
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Speaker 10: we saw at Butler Library was ultimately eighty arrests were made.
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Speaker 10: And any movement that we're seeing that's progress towards shutting
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Speaker 10: down this anti Semitic movement is because there's a new
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Speaker 10: sheriff in town. Because we've got President Donald J.
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Speaker 2: Trump back in.
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Speaker 10: The White House and his administration has taken forceful steps
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Speaker 10: as he promised us on the campaign trail. So what
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Speaker 10: we are seeing right now is, yes, the promise that
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Speaker 10: there are foreign elements in our country that are here
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Speaker 10: to undermine our society, and so foreign students who are
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Speaker 10: here on visa they will be deported for supporting a
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Speaker 10: pro terror movement on our soil. They are not welcome here,
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Speaker 10: as Secretary Ruby on the President have said. But the
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Speaker 10: other element here is, of course, the power of the purse.
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Speaker 10: And what we're seeing is a Trump administration letting the
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Speaker 10: universities know that they will be cutting federal funds. In
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Speaker 10: the case of Columbia University that's already four hundred million dollars.
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Speaker 10: If they are unnoticed that they're about they are losing,
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Speaker 10: and there are talks taking place with Columbia University between
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Speaker 10: the Trump administration and the university. And so I think
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Speaker 10: the only reason we're seeing some progress at Columbia is
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Speaker 10: because they understand that they are about to lose not
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Speaker 10: only four hundred million dollars in federal grants, but also
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Speaker 10: they have the possibility of losing billions of dollars in
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Speaker 10: federal funding.
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Speaker 8: John congress Woman Elise Stefanik says that schools like Columbia
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Speaker 8: just aren't paying attention here listen to what she has
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Speaker 8: to say.
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Speaker 11: And the fact that these universities have allowed that to
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Speaker 11: perpetuate shows that they have been incapable of showing strong
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Speaker 11: leadership to allow safety for students, and they've allowed this
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Speaker 11: anti semitism to continue to rise. The US taxpayers do
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Speaker 11: not want their dollars to prop up institutions that are
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Speaker 11: unsafe for Jewish students, and that has been the case
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Speaker 11: at places like Columbia.
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Speaker 8: Would you agree with what the congresswoman has to say?
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Speaker 8: You said you yourself are a Columbia.
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Speaker 10: Graduate, exactly right. Well, I couldn't agree with representatives stefanic More.
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Speaker 10: The American taxpayer is not interested in funding universities that
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Speaker 10: have become hotbeds of anti Semitism and frankly anti Americanism.
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Speaker 10: The student group that organize this Butler Library takeover has
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Speaker 10: issued manifest those where they are literally calling for violence
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Speaker 10: and literally supporting terror movements that the United States has
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Speaker 10: designated as foreign terrorist organizations. And so we cannot have
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Speaker 10: any tolerance for this, for this violent movement, everything that
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Speaker 10: we're seeing stands against American values. And I want to
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Speaker 10: tell you something, John, Ironically, May is Jewish American Heritage Month.
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Speaker 10: President Trump issued a proclamation back in May twenty twenty
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Speaker 10: noting the month and celebrating Jewish Americans. And so I
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Speaker 10: really encourage everyone to take a look at Jewish American
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Speaker 10: Heritage dot org learn about how Jewish Americans have contributed
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Speaker 10: to our country and have helped to make our country
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Speaker 10: a great place for all of our citizens. But again,
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Speaker 10: you know, we're going to see the Trump administration, I think,
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Speaker 10: continue to take very forceful action hold the universities accountable.
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Speaker 10: In the case of Columbia, not only is it the
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Speaker 10: risk of students, the foreign students being deported, the risk
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Speaker 10: of losing federal funding, but also the administration has told
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Speaker 10: Columbia they want to put the Middle East Department under receivership,
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Speaker 10: which is very bold action and necess because what we're
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Speaker 10: finding out from students themselves is that in the classroom
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Speaker 10: they are actually being indoctrinated to hate America and to
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Speaker 10: hate the Jewish state of Israel. And so all of
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Speaker 10: this action is very welcomed, I think by all Americans
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Speaker 10: who want to finally see an end to this anti semitism.
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Speaker 1: One thing's for sure, the Trump administration isn't screwing around
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Speaker 1: with anti semitism on college campuses, and they're going to
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Speaker 1: make it hurt for universities that refuse to rein it
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Speaker 1: in Now, the Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights
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Speaker 1: has sent an official notice to the accrediting body that
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Speaker 1: audience Columbia University, notifying that the Ivy League school is
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Speaker 1: currently failing to meet its standards for accreditation. The Middle
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Speaker 1: States Commission on Higher Education, which is a recognize a
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Speaker 1: credit body for degree granting higher education institutions across the
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Speaker 1: Mid Atlantic, ensures that it's members schools such as Columbia
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Speaker 1: meet established standards of academic quality, integrity, institutional effectiveness, and
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Speaker 1: more well, they are one of several accredit institutions across
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Speaker 1: the country that the Department of Education deems reliable. Now,
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Speaker 1: only institutions accredited by the Department of Education recognize that
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Speaker 1: creditors are eligible to participate in Title nine federal financial
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Speaker 1: aid programs such as PEL grants and federal work study
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Speaker 1: or student loan programs as well. So this notice is
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Speaker 1: marking the latest escalation the Trump administration's efforts to hold
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Speaker 1: Columbia accountable for number one, failing to tamp down anti
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Speaker 1: semitism on its campuses. And they're making it clear you
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Speaker 1: want to be investigated, fine, we will do it. They
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Speaker 1: launched an investigation to Columbia in February, and the Trump
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Speaker 1: administration opted to cancel four hundred dred million and federal
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Speaker 1: grants over the university's failure to protect Jewish students from
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Speaker 1: anti Semitic harassment. And that is a direct quote. Now Subsequently,
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Speaker 1: Columbia agreed to make changes they claim in an effort
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Speaker 1: to prevent funds from being canceled. The school quote took
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Speaker 1: steps to overhaul its policies around protests, around safety and security,
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Speaker 1: while also reorganizing its Middle Eastern Studies department. Now, the
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Speaker 1: changes also include adopting a new campus wide definition of
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Speaker 1: anti semitism. And the fact that that we're even having
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Speaker 1: to do this in twenty twenty five is just totally
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Speaker 1: insane now. Also last month, Columbia said it would be
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Speaker 1: cutting around one hundred and eighty staff members in an
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Speaker 1: effort to preserve the university's financial flexibility. So you wonder
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Speaker 1: how blow to these campuses are and how much money
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Speaker 1: they're wasting of your tax dollars. That should tell you
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Speaker 1: also everything you need to know. So well done to
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Speaker 1: the Trump administration for doing this. They're not holding back
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Speaker 1: and they're stopping anti semitism, especially when your tax dollars
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Speaker 1: are going to these universities that have been looking the
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