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Mayorkas Impeachment Trial TODAY-the Inside Story & Everything You Need to Know · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is verdict with center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.
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Speaker 2: It was a very very lively day in the Senate
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Speaker 2: and it deals with the Majorcus impeachment. Get everybody up
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Speaker 2: to speed on what we're going to be seeing over
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Speaker 2: the next day.
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Speaker 3: Well, this week is an historic week in the United
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Speaker 3: States Senate. Yesterday, on Tuesday, the House of Representatives delivered
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Speaker 3: articles of impeachment for Alejandro Majorcas to the Senate. This
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Speaker 3: is only the twenty second time in our nation's history
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Speaker 3: that articles of impeachment have been delivered to the Senate. Today,
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Speaker 3: on Wednesday, the Senate will commence the hearing at one
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Speaker 3: pm to day. Under the Senate rules, we will convene,
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Speaker 3: we will be sworn in as jurors in the trial.
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Speaker 4: I expect a battle.
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Speaker 3: I expect some fireworks, and sadly, I expect the Democrats
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Speaker 3: to try to utterly dodge the issue and throw it
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Speaker 3: out and refuse to hold a trial. But today is
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Speaker 3: going to be a big battle, because this is going
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Speaker 3: to be all about the Democrats being willing to throw
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Speaker 3: the Constitution in the trash in order to avoid any
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Speaker 3: national attention on the disaster that is playing out on
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Speaker 3: our southern border and in order to avoid any accountability
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Speaker 2: from the Democrats. They made it very queer. Chuck Schumer said, Hey,
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Speaker 2: we think we can get done with this thing and
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Speaker 2: maybe a day.
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Speaker 1: Is that a possibility now, yes?
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Speaker 5: Or no?
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Speaker 3: Well, sadly yes, and in fact, I would say it's
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Speaker 3: likely right now. So let me describe what happened yesterday
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Speaker 3: on Tuesday and what's likely happened today. So yesterday, on Tuesday,
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Speaker 3: at about two point thirty in the afternoon, the House
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Speaker 3: Managers arrived at the Senate. When they did, virtually every
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Speaker 3: Senator was sitting at their desks on the Senate floor.
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Speaker 3: The House managers came in. Under the Senate rules, so
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Speaker 3: the Senate exists in three different states. One is considering
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Speaker 3: the legislative calendar, one is considering the executive calendar, which
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Speaker 3: is nominations, and the third is considering impeachment. Those are
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Speaker 3: the only three states of the Senate. Whenever articles of
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Speaker 3: impeachment arrive, there are special rules that apply to impeachment
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Speaker 3: that automatically kick in. So we knew that the articles
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Speaker 3: of impeachment were being delivered. And so Patty Murray, who
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Speaker 3: is the President pro tem, she is the senior Democrat.
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Speaker 3: The Democrats are in the majority, so she's the President
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Speaker 3: pro tem. She was presiding. And what happened was the
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Speaker 3: House Clerk came in and said, the House managers are
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Speaker 3: here to present articles of impeachment and the Speaker pro
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Speaker 3: Tem Patty Murray said, they shall be welcomed on the floor.
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Speaker 3: They came onto the floor and you had about a
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Speaker 3: dozen House managers. They're all House members who were selected
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Speaker 3: to present the case, to try the case.
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Speaker 4: Mark Green is the leader.
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Speaker 3: Of the House managers. Mark Green is the one who
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Speaker 3: presided over the committee that considered the impeachment. Mark Green
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Speaker 3: is from Tennessee. He's a good friend. He's a West
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Speaker 3: Point graduate, he's an Army veteran. He's a terrific guy.
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Speaker 3: And under the the Senate rules, the first step is
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Speaker 3: that he reads the articles of impeachment. The articles of
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Speaker 3: impeachment are they are printed out, They're a document that's
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Speaker 3: actually what was voted out of the House.
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Speaker 4: And they are.
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Speaker 3: What are they nineteen pages long? So he read those
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Speaker 3: nineteen pages on the floor of the Senate. That took
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Speaker 3: probably thirty five to forty minutes. Virtually every senator sat
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Speaker 3: there listening, the press sat there listening. It was important
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Speaker 3: to walk through the facts. And one of the things
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Speaker 3: I want to do on this podcast is read through
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Speaker 3: some of the facts that were laid out in the
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Speaker 3: articles of impeachment that Mark Green read. We all sat
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Speaker 3: there and just listened. And the Democrats had to listen
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Speaker 3: to the facts to the disaster of Biden's open border.
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Speaker 3: They had to listen to that be presented. That was
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Speaker 3: the first step. The next step is that under the
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Speaker 3: Senate rules of impeachment, on Wednesday today, the Senate will
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Speaker 3: come in into set at one pm as a court
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Speaker 3: of impeachment. The very first thing that will happen is
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Speaker 3: we will all be sworn in as jurors. We will
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Speaker 3: sign a book that signs that we are participating as jurors. Now,
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Speaker 3: what would ordinarily happen. So this has happened twenty two
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Speaker 3: times in our nation's history. The other twenty one times,
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Speaker 3: here's what would happen. The Senate would consider and would
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Speaker 3: adopt a resolution laying out a trial schedule. That's ordinarily
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Speaker 3: how this happens. And you lay out a schedule, Okay,
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Speaker 3: the House will present their case on xt date. They
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Speaker 3: will have why hours. It will go this way. Then
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Speaker 3: the defense will present their case. They will have the
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Speaker 3: following hours. Here are the motions that will be in order.
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Speaker 3: It's very much like if you're in a trial court,
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Speaker 3: if you're litigating a case, you'll often have a scheduling
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Speaker 3: order at the front end. That's typically the first step.
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Speaker 3: In this instance, we are anticipating that's not going to
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Speaker 3: happen because the Democrats, Chuck Schumer has decided he does
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Speaker 3: not want to have a trial. He desperately wants to
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Speaker 3: avoid a trial, and he doesn't want the House managers
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Speaker 3: to present any evidence. Schumer and the Democrats are terrified
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Speaker 3: of the evidence of the suffering of the people who've died,
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Speaker 3: of the people, of the children who've been sexually assaulted,
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Speaker 3: of the women who've been sexually assaulted, of the fentanyl deaths,
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Speaker 3: and the drug overdose deaths. He doesn't want that evidence
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Speaker 3: to put before the American people. Understand, the Democrats have
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Speaker 3: no defense on this. They don't have a counter argument.
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Speaker 3: They don't have an alternative narrative on almost every other issue.
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Speaker 3: If I'm in the Senate and I lay out an
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Speaker 3: argument for lower taxes, the Democrats will present their counter argument, No, no, no,
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Speaker 3: we need higher taxes.
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Speaker 4: Stick it to the rich, make them pay more.
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Speaker 3: If we're discussing the issue of abortion and I talk
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Speaker 3: about the importance of protecting life, they'll step in and say, no, no, no,
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Speaker 3: we must have abortions everywhere. We love them all. Almost
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Speaker 3: every issue they have a counter argument. What is remarkable, Ben,
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Speaker 3: is they do not have a counter argument on the
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Speaker 3: open borders. They don't dispute any of the facts. Their
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Speaker 3: entire strategy is simple, hide from the facts because they
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Speaker 3: are indefensible, and so they're counting on the corporate media
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Speaker 3: covering up the facts. They're counting on the fact that
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Speaker 3: CNN ignores the border crisis, ABC ignores the border crisis, CBSNBC,
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Speaker 3: MSNBC ignore the border crisis, and their entire strategy is
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Speaker 3: don't talk about it, pretend it doesn't exist, and count
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Speaker 3: on the media that are shameless shills for the Democrats
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Speaker 3: to cover it up. As a result, I fully expect
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Speaker 3: tomorrow Chuck Schumer intends to file either a motion to
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Speaker 3: table or a motion to dismiss. We don't know which
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Speaker 3: one yet, but when he does so, right now, the
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Speaker 3: expectation is that every single Democrat will vote with him.
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Speaker 3: I hope they don't, and I have been leading the fight.
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Speaker 3: We had a long press conference on Tuesday with multiple Senators,
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Speaker 3: with multiple of the House managers, trying to put heat
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Speaker 3: on the Democrats to press them to fulfill their constitutional
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Speaker 3: obligation to hold a trial. But right now, Schumer's intention
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Speaker 3: he doesn't want a trial, he doesn't want any evidence.
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Speaker 3: He wants to make this go away because he's terrified
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Speaker 3: of the issue.
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Speaker 2: So how do they proceed so quickly to just shut
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Speaker 2: it down? I mean, you mentioned and I want people
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Speaker 2: to understand what it would normally look like you were
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Speaker 2: talking about the House would be presenting their evidence if
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Speaker 2: this went the traditional way. When you say the House
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Speaker 2: presents their evidence, who actually does that? How would that
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Speaker 2: normally look and so paint that picture real quick.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So twenty one times the House has delivered articles
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Speaker 3: of impeachment to this country to the Senate before Tuesday,
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Speaker 3: in all twenty one of those times. In four of
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Speaker 3: them the Senate lacked jurisdiction. The very first one, William Blount,
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Speaker 3: was a Senator, and the Senate concluded right that under
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Speaker 3: the Constitution, impeachment only lies against either executive branch.
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Speaker 4: Officials or judicial branch officials.
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Speaker 3: In other words, impeachment you can remove someone the president,
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Speaker 3: you can remove a cabinet member, you can remove a judge.
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Speaker 3: But the Senate concluded you cannot remove a member of Congress.
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Speaker 3: That it's only each body. The Senate can throw senators out,
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Speaker 3: the House can throw House members out, but impeachment's not
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Speaker 3: a mechanism that applies to members of Congress. That was
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Speaker 3: the first impeachment. After that, there were three other instances
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Speaker 3: where the person who was impeached either died or resigned
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Speaker 3: from office, but they weren't in office, and so the
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Speaker 3: Senate concluded, Okay, they're out of office, we're done. There's
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Speaker 3: nothing to do here. So those four cases, the Senate
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Speaker 3: lacked jurisdiction. In one hundred percent of the instances where
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Speaker 3: the individual remained in office and the Senate had jurisdiction,
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Speaker 3: what the Senate did is conducted a trial. They hurt evidence,
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Speaker 3: and the way it proceeds is the House managers present
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Speaker 3: the evidence. Actually, the Senate sit there silently. We're not
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Speaker 3: allowed to engage, unlike a hearing, unlike an argument on
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Speaker 3: the floor, we're not allowed to speak. We sit there
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Speaker 3: and listen. Both of the Trump impeachments, you'll recall, Verdict
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Speaker 3: got started the first night of the first Trump impeachment.
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Speaker 3: That's why this podcast was born to explain what was happening.
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Speaker 3: But the way it operates in the Trump impeachments. For example,
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Speaker 3: I couldn't speak, no other senator could speak. We're jurors,
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Speaker 3: although actually we're not just jurors. We're also we decide
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Speaker 3: the law as well, and we're entitled to take political considerations.
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Speaker 3: We're entitled to take any considerations we want. So it's
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Speaker 3: not it's not a jury in the ordinary sense. And actually,
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Speaker 3: in the impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton, Tom Harkin, a
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Speaker 3: Democrat from Iowa, actually stood up and raised a point
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Speaker 3: of order and had Chief Justice William Renquist clarify that
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Speaker 3: senators are not jurors in the purest sense of the word.
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Speaker 3: But rather they are granted by the Constitution the responsibility
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Speaker 3: and the authority to adjudicate and to consider matters of
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Speaker 3: fact and law and consider every other factor. So you know, look,
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Speaker 3: senators have connections to the people being impeached in ways
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Speaker 3: that no juror ever would. So, for example, for President's
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Speaker 3: being impeached, all the senators know the president. Half the
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Speaker 3: senators are of the party the president half or not.
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Speaker 3: In a jury, you could never have that. You could
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Speaker 3: never have people who know the criminal defendant and have
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Speaker 3: a relationship with them. But the framers established something different
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Speaker 3: for impeachment. They established that it would be the Senate
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Speaker 3: that adjudicates it. But the way it ordinarily plays out
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Speaker 3: is the House Managers, and that's a group of typically
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Speaker 3: about a dozen House members that are selected by the
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Speaker 3: House to present the evidence. They present the evidence, and
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Speaker 3: we listen to it.
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Speaker 2: So, Senator, the next question that some of people are
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Speaker 2: going to ask is is how on earth do we
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Speaker 2: feel like we're living in these times where we have
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Speaker 2: an open border. We're witnessing cities they're saying they're going
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Speaker 2: bankrupt and they're taking away from American citizens or tax
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Speaker 2: dollars giving them to I legal immigrants. We have the
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Speaker 2: Fetnah crisis coming across the southern border, and we clearly
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Speaker 2: have an administration that is not abiding by the laws
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Speaker 2: that are already on the book, specifically my Orcis, and
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Speaker 2: it seems by based on what you're saying, Majorcis is
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Speaker 2: probably sitting around a table laughing right now at this
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Speaker 2: because he knows he's safe.
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Speaker 3: Well, he knows that the Democrats are going to rubber
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Speaker 3: stamp everything he's doing, because every Democrat in the Senate
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Speaker 3: supports these open borders. Understand, this is not just Joe Biden.
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Speaker 3: This is not just Kamala Harris, this is Chuck Schumer,
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Speaker 3: this is every single Democrat, this is the entire house.
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Speaker 3: They all, every one of the Democrats supports this invasion.
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Speaker 3: And so Schumer wants to make this go away quickly.
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Speaker 3: He wants no attention, he wants no press, he wants
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Speaker 3: none of the facts. And I will say, watching the
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Speaker 3: House present the article of impeachment, so I'm going to
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Speaker 3: read some of the articles of impeachment that were read
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Speaker 3: on the Senate floor. And the reason I'm going to
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Speaker 3: is because these facts were laid out and it was
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Speaker 3: interesting watching the Democrat senators listen to it. So, for example,
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Speaker 3: here's one portion, so that the articles of impeachment go
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Speaker 3: through all the different statues, the statutes that may Orcus defied.
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Speaker 3: So for example, here's a quote Alejandro Mayorcus willfully refuse
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Speaker 3: to comply with the detention mandate set forth in section
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Speaker 3: two thirty five B one B two of such Act,
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Speaker 3: requiring that an alien who's placed in expedited removal proceedings
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Speaker 3: and determined to have a credible fear of persecution quote
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Speaker 3: shall be detained for further consideration of the application for
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Speaker 3: asylum shall be detained. It's mandatory terms over and over again.
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Speaker 3: They go through all sorts of Section two thirty six
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Speaker 3: CE of the Act, which requires that a criminal alien
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Speaker 3: who is inadmissible or deportable on certain criminal and terrorism
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Speaker 3: related grounds, quote, shall be taken into custody when the
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Speaker 3: alien is released from law enforcement. Aljandra Mayorcus issued Guidelines
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Speaker 3: for the Enforcement of civil Immigration Laws, which instructs the
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Speaker 3: Department of Homeland Security that the fact that an individual
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Speaker 3: is removable a removable non citizen should not alone be
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Speaker 3: the basis of an enforcement action against them, and that
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Speaker 3: DHS personnel should not rely on the fact of a
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Speaker 3: conviction alone that's directly violating federal law. It goes through
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Speaker 3: instance after instance after instance of federal law federal statutes
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Speaker 3: that Majorcis has defied. Aljandro Majorcis. This is quoting more
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Speaker 3: from it. Aljandro Mayorcus willfully exceeded his release authority set
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Speaker 3: force in section two thirty six A of such Act
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Speaker 3: that permits, in certain circumstances, the release of aliens arrested
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Speaker 3: on administrative warrant, in that he released aliens arrested without
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Speaker 3: a warrant despite being subject separate applicable mandatory detention requirements,
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Speaker 3: over and over and over again. All right, here's some
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Speaker 3: basic stats that it lays out during fiscal year twenty
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Speaker 3: seventeen through twenty twenty. In other words, the Trump administration,
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Speaker 3: an average about five hundred and ninety thousand aliens each
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Speaker 3: fiscal year were encountered as inadmissible aliens at ports of
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Speaker 3: entry or on the Southwest border, apprehended in between.
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Speaker 4: Ports of entry.
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Speaker 3: During Alijandro Mayorcus's tenure in office, the number of skyrocketed,
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Speaker 3: so it was five hundred ninety thousand a year first year.
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Speaker 3: It's skyrocketed to one point four million and fiscal year
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, and then to two point three million
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Speaker 3: in fiscal year twenty twenty two, and then to two
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Speaker 3: point four million in fiscal year twenty twenty three, those numbers.
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Speaker 3: It goes on to talk about New York City and
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Speaker 3: it says, for instance, this is quoting for instance, twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty two, more than one hundred and fifty thousand migrants
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Speaker 3: have gone through New York City's shelter intake system. Indeed,
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Speaker 3: the Mayor of New York City has said that quote,
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Speaker 3: we are past our breaking point and that quote this
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Speaker 3: issue will destroy New York City. In fiscal year twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty three, New York City spent one billion, four hundred
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Speaker 3: and fifty million addressing Alojandro Mayorcis's migrant crisis, and city
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Speaker 3: officials fear it will spend another twelve billion dollars over
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Speaker 3: the following three years, causing painful budget cuts to important
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Speaker 3: city services. If you look at it, goes on to say,
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Speaker 3: for example, during a Mayorcus's tenure Secretary of Homeland Security,
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Speaker 3: the US Border Patrol has encountered an increasing number of
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Speaker 3: aliens on the terrorist watch list. In the fiscal years
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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen through twenty twenty. In other words, the Trump
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Speaker 3: administration combined eleven non citizens on the terrorist watch list
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Speaker 3: were caught attempting to cross the Southwest border. So, in
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Speaker 3: other words, in four years, a total of eleven people
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Speaker 3: on the terror watch list crossed. That number increased to
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Speaker 3: fifteen in the fiscal year twenty twenty one, ninety eight
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Speaker 3: in fiscal year twenty twenty two, one hundred and sixty
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Speaker 3: nine in fiscal year twenty twenty three, and forty nine
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Speaker 3: so far in fiscal year twenty twenty four. Those numbers
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Speaker 3: are staggery, and I think it was important to see
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Speaker 3: them read and presented on the Senate floor and to
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Speaker 3: watch every Senate Democrat have to listen to them.
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Speaker 2: When you say it was interesting to see their reaction.
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Speaker 2: Was it a reaction of let's hurry up and get
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Speaker 2: through this. Was it a reaction from some that they
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Speaker 2: didn't even know this, or was it the reaction of
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Speaker 2: this is not my problem, I don't care.
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Speaker 1: I mean, what did the room look like? And were
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Speaker 1: there different reactions?
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Speaker 3: So it was the latter. The Democrats were all staring ahead,
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Speaker 3: they didn't care at all. They were enduring it. They
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Speaker 3: were sitting there for appearances. You know what was the
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Speaker 3: most revealing reaction?
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Speaker 1: What was that?
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Speaker 3: John Tester? So, John Tester, everyone recognizes is almost certainly
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Speaker 3: the most vulnerable Democrat on the ballot in November. John
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Speaker 3: Tester is the senator from Montana. Montana's going to vote
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Speaker 3: for Donald Trump. He's Montana's gonna vote for Donald Trump
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Speaker 3: by double digits. John Tester gets re elected every six
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Speaker 3: years because he looks like a good old boy Montana farmer.
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Speaker 3: He's a big old guy with a flat top haircut,
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Speaker 3: and you figure he's got to be reasonable middle of
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Speaker 3: the road.
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Speaker 4: He votes exactly like Chuck Schumer. He's hard left.
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Speaker 3: If Tester had a different haircut, he would never have
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Speaker 3: gotten elected in Montana. But because he's got a flat
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Speaker 3: top haircut, he gets elected. Tester knows he's got a
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Speaker 3: heck of a fight. What was interesting is Tester was
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Speaker 3: on the Senate floor before the house managers arrived. As
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Speaker 3: soon as the house managers arrived, Tester disappeared. Almost every
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Speaker 3: single Democrat were sitting in their seats. Tester was gone.
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Speaker 3: I assume he went to the cloak room. He ran away.
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Speaker 3: He's like, oh my goodness, I cannot be on the
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Speaker 3: floor to hear this.
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Speaker 4: So he was gone. His seat was empty.
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Speaker 3: The house managers read the articles of impeachment. It takes,
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Speaker 3: as I said, thirty or forty minutes. We all sat
19:53
Speaker 3: there listening. And then as soon as the house manager's
19:57
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19:58
Speaker 3: the Senate floor.
20:00
Speaker 4: That John Tester.
20:01
Speaker 3: Wow, he I guess was sitting back in the cloakroom.
20:04
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was on his phone playing
20:07
Speaker 3: video games. I don't know what he was doing, but
20:09
Speaker 3: he was not willing to sit on the Senate floor
20:11
Speaker 3: and listen to it. And by the way, when he
20:12
Speaker 3: goes back to Montana, he says, I care so much
20:14
Speaker 3: about illegal immigration. We've got to secure the board. It's
20:17
Speaker 3: a problem. And every word he's saying is not true,
20:20
Speaker 3: because today he intends to vote to throw the damn
20:24
Speaker 3: thing out to say, I don't want to hear a trial.
20:26
Speaker 3: I don't want to hear any evidence. I don't want
20:28
Speaker 3: to know what's going on. It's not even like an
20:32
Speaker 3: Ostrich sticking his head in the sand, at least stays
20:36
Speaker 3: in the room. He's an Ostrich who runs his ass
20:39
Speaker 3: out of there. And it's emblematic. Why does Chuck Schumer
20:43
Speaker 3: want to avoid a trial because he's desperate to protect
20:47
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20:53
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20:59
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21:02
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Speaker 1: Senator, let's move forward.
23:01
Speaker 2: If the Democrats get this victory, and there's a very
23:05
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23:07
Speaker 2: which is a show trial at best and kind of
23:09
Speaker 2: a mockery of the system, how much of an issue
23:13
Speaker 2: is this going to be for them to come back
23:14
Speaker 2: and bite them come election day? And I say that
23:18
Speaker 2: because it just came out that, for example, Colorado in Denver,
23:22
Speaker 2: they defunded the police and they're now giving the money
23:26
Speaker 2: which they took from police to illegal immigrant services. I
23:31
Speaker 2: can't imagine that's going to sit well with the voters there.
23:33
Speaker 2: For example, I just came back from New York City
23:37
Speaker 2: a couple hours ago, and in New York City, I
23:40
Speaker 2: was there when the protests were happening. They were protesting
23:44
Speaker 2: at City Hall illegal immigrants demanding better hotels like four
23:50
Speaker 2: star hotels, and demanding more money and more food from
23:54
Speaker 2: the New York City government. It's insane, but this is
23:57
Speaker 2: what's happening in liberal cities right now.
24:00
Speaker 3: Look the left, the hypocrisy is enormous. You ask how
24:03
Speaker 3: big an issue this is going to be. I think
24:04
Speaker 3: this is going to be the number one issue in November,
24:07
Speaker 3: in every election in the country that Joe Biden and
24:11
Speaker 3: every Democrat member of Congress has willfully presided over and
24:16
Speaker 3: aided into betting in the criminal invasion of this country.
24:20
Speaker 3: That what is unfolded has been staggering. And understand, the
24:25
Speaker 3: consequence is this is not some TICKI tack violation of law. Rather,
24:30
Speaker 3: the consequences of this we are seeing thousands upon thousands
24:35
Speaker 3: of people die. We are seeing migrants die every year,
24:38
Speaker 3: multiple migrants a day dying We're seeing dead bodies all
24:43
Speaker 3: over Texas, farms and ranches occurring over and over again.
24:45
Speaker 3: We're seeing thousands of children brutalized by human traffickers. We
24:49
Speaker 3: are seeing thousands of women sexually assaulted by human traffickers.
24:54
Speaker 3: We are seeing over one hundred thousand Americans dying of
24:57
Speaker 3: drug overdoses every year. The traged is enormous, and I
25:01
Speaker 3: think this is going to be front and center. The
25:02
Speaker 3: Democrats are going to try to avoid accountability. I don't
25:05
Speaker 3: think they're going to succeed. I think this impeachment trial
25:08
Speaker 3: is exceptionally important, and I will say today it's going
25:11
Speaker 3: to play out one of two ways. What the Democrats
25:15
Speaker 3: have proposed it is a scheduling order that will allow
25:20
Speaker 3: votes on several motions. So there is an organizing resolution
25:24
Speaker 3: that Mike Lee is presented that is modeled after the
25:27
Speaker 3: Trump impeachment trial that would set it up where the Senate,
25:31
Speaker 3: the entire floor of the Senate is the trial, and
25:33
Speaker 3: we conduct the trial on the floor.
25:36
Speaker 4: I'm going to vote for that.
25:37
Speaker 3: I think all the Republicans are most, if not all,
25:39
Speaker 3: the Republicans tend to vote for it, and all the
25:41
Speaker 3: Democrats vote. Now I have a scheduling order that I
25:45
Speaker 3: put in that instead of having the full Senate conduct
25:48
Speaker 3: the trial, that would point a point a trial committee.
25:53
Speaker 3: And the way the Senate is operated when it is
25:56
Speaker 3: the impeachment of the President of the United States, it
25:58
Speaker 3: occurs on the floor of the Senate and the Chief
26:02
Speaker 3: Justice of the United States presides. But for lesser impeachment, So,
26:06
Speaker 3: for example, may Orcis is only the second cabinet member
26:09
Speaker 3: in history to be impeached. The last cabinet member was
26:11
Speaker 3: the Secretary of War in eighteen seventy six. But this
26:14
Speaker 3: is exceptionally rare. The bulk of the impeachments have been judges,
26:18
Speaker 3: and the way it's typically worked when a judge is
26:20
Speaker 3: impeached is that the Senate has appointed an impeachment committee
26:24
Speaker 3: with an equal number of members of each party, and
26:27
Speaker 3: the committee has conducted the trial. So the committee, here's evidence,
26:31
Speaker 3: The House managers present evidence, it's public, the American people
26:34
Speaker 3: can see it, and then the committee makes a recommendation
26:37
Speaker 3: of the full Senate, and the Senate in turns Every
26:39
Speaker 3: Senator has to vote guilty or not guilty on each
26:41
Speaker 3: of the articles. That's the way it's historically works. So
26:44
Speaker 3: I've got an organizing resolution. I filed to do that.
26:47
Speaker 3: I would rather it be on the floor of the Senate.
26:49
Speaker 3: I think it's important enough it should be on the
26:50
Speaker 3: floor of the Senate. If Republicans had a majority in
26:53
Speaker 3: the Senate, I'm confident we would hold the trial on
26:55
Speaker 3: the floor of the Senate. But given Democrats have control,
26:59
Speaker 3: I think it is reason for them to say, Okay,
27:01
Speaker 3: we'll do this the way every other sub presidential impeachment
27:05
Speaker 3: has been done through an impeachment committee, so that would
27:10
Speaker 3: be the reasonable way to do it. They're going to oppose,
27:13
Speaker 3: and so what Schumer has suggested is scheduling order to
27:17
Speaker 3: will allow a vote on Mike Lee's resolution, a vote
27:19
Speaker 3: on my resolution, and then a number of points of
27:23
Speaker 3: orders raising problems with what the Democrats are trying to
27:27
Speaker 3: do of throw out the matter, prevent the House managers
27:31
Speaker 3: from presenting the evidence, and prevent a trial. The Democrats
27:34
Speaker 3: intend to vote against all of those. What the scheduling
27:38
Speaker 3: order that's been proposed by the Democrats would give some
27:41
Speaker 3: time for debate Right now, it's an hour and a half.
27:44
Speaker 3: An hour and a half is not a ton of time,
27:45
Speaker 3: but it's better than zero. It is not clear if
27:50
Speaker 3: that will be agreed to. Right now, there are a
27:52
Speaker 3: couple of Republicans who are objecting. If Republicans object to
27:56
Speaker 3: that scheduling order, then here's what will probably happen. Will
27:59
Speaker 3: come in at one o'clock today. We will not get
28:03
Speaker 3: a vote on Mike Lee's scheduling order. We will not
28:05
Speaker 3: get a vote on my scheduling order. I and several
28:09
Speaker 3: others will rise on points of order and try to
28:11
Speaker 3: challenge this, and what I expect is fairly quickly Chuck
28:14
Speaker 3: Schumer to file a motion to table and try to
28:17
Speaker 3: put this whole thing away. Now, the frustrating thing about
28:19
Speaker 3: doing it that way is under the rules, when we
28:22
Speaker 3: make a point of order, you're not allowed to argue,
28:24
Speaker 3: so we won't have debate. We won't be able to
28:26
Speaker 3: stand up and state the reasons for our point of order.
28:29
Speaker 3: You can get maybe twenty thirty seconds to say, I
28:31
Speaker 3: raise a point of order that X, but you've got
28:34
Speaker 3: a couple of sentences and that's it.
28:36
Speaker 4: So in my view, it's much.
28:38
Speaker 3: Better to take a scheduling order that gives us a
28:40
Speaker 3: period of time to lay out the argument, because the
28:43
Speaker 3: entire purpose of this is to put the evidence before
28:46
Speaker 3: the American people. But we may see one or more
28:49
Speaker 3: Republicans object, in which case we won't get any debate
28:52
Speaker 3: time at all, and this will just get rammed through
28:53
Speaker 3: very quickly.
28:55
Speaker 2: There's also the fact that I think a lot of
28:57
Speaker 2: people believe, and I think you would agree with this,
29:00
Speaker 2: that there has been zero accountability for Secretary my archists
29:05
Speaker 2: just flat out lying to Congress. Uh, this is something
29:09
Speaker 2: that he said, and I want to get your take.
29:12
Speaker 4: I've adhered to the oath.
29:14
Speaker 6: To which I have sworn, and I have abided by
29:20
Speaker 6: the law each and every step of the way.
29:22
Speaker 1: That's not true, is it. That's a lie.
29:24
Speaker 4: It's an absolute lie.
29:25
Speaker 3: And actually there's a whole provision of these articles of
29:28
Speaker 3: impeachment that lay out how may Orcus has repeatedly lied
29:32
Speaker 3: to Congress. Now, now it's interesting. One of the things
29:35
Speaker 3: that the articles of impeachment also lay out is that, Okay,
29:39
Speaker 3: so the Democrats are going to take the position, this
29:42
Speaker 3: is a policy difference, that that that Okay, the Biden
29:45
Speaker 3: administration just they won't quite say it, but believes in
29:49
Speaker 3: open borders. So they're going to let people go. But
29:51
Speaker 3: it's not impeachable, it's it's it's it's not an offense.
29:56
Speaker 3: What is interesting is that was not the position of
29:59
Speaker 3: the Biden Justice Department. So you had litigation in front
30:03
Speaker 3: of the court where Texas sued the Biden administration trying
30:06
Speaker 3: to get the court to say, the Biden administration is
30:10
Speaker 3: refusing to refusing to follow immigration law. And I'm going
30:16
Speaker 3: to read from the articles of impeachment the dissenting justice
30:20
Speaker 3: in that case noted quote. The court holds that Texas
30:23
Speaker 3: lacks standing to challenge a federal policy that inflicts substantial
30:27
Speaker 3: harm on the state and its residents by releasing illegal
30:31
Speaker 3: aliens with criminal convictions for serious crimes. In order to
30:34
Speaker 3: reach that conclusion, the court holds that the only limit
30:37
Speaker 3: on the power of the president to disobey a law
30:40
Speaker 3: like the important provisions at issue is Congress's power to
30:45
Speaker 3: employ the weapons of inner branch warfare. As the descending
30:49
Speaker 3: justice explained, quote, Congress may wield what the Solicitor General
30:53
Speaker 3: described as political tools, which presumably mean such things as
30:59
Speaker 3: impeachment and removal. Indeed, during oral arguments, the justice who
31:04
Speaker 3: authored the majority opinion stated to the Solicitor General, quote,
31:08
Speaker 3: I think your position is instead of judicial review, Congress
31:12
Speaker 3: has to resort to shutting down the government or impeachment
31:15
Speaker 3: or dramatic steps. That is what the Biden Justice Department argued,
31:21
Speaker 3: is that impeachment is the remedy when a president a
31:27
Speaker 3: cabinet member refuses to follow the law, defies the law.
31:30
Speaker 3: The Biden Justice Department argued that in front of the
31:32
Speaker 3: US Supreme Court. And yet you know what today, the
31:35
Speaker 3: Democrats are going to say, no, impeachment's not the remedy.
31:39
Speaker 3: If you have an executive who defies the law, it
31:41
Speaker 3: doesn't matter. We're going to rubber stamp it and we're
31:43
Speaker 3: not even going to hold a trial. And by the way,
31:45
Speaker 3: every Democrat will tell the reporters there was no evidence
31:50
Speaker 3: of a high crime and misdemeanor. Now, of course they'll
31:52
Speaker 3: say there was no evidence because they're about to vote
31:54
Speaker 3: to block all the evidence, so they don't hear any evidence.
31:57
Speaker 3: So then they can say we didn't hear any evidence.
32:00
Speaker 3: And the reason they didn't hear any evidence is because
32:02
Speaker 3: they're going to refuse to hear any evidence. And why
32:04
Speaker 3: are they going to refuse to hear any evidence, Because
32:06
Speaker 3: they don't want the American people to hear the evidence.
32:08
Speaker 2: And part of what they don't want them to hear
32:10
Speaker 2: is the reality of what it's like out there on
32:12
Speaker 2: the streets. Bill Malusian did some great reporting yesterday on
32:16
Speaker 2: Fox News Channel about Elite Ice unit is tracking down
32:19
Speaker 2: migrant criminals, specifically child rapists. This is while Mayorkas stared
32:25
Speaker 2: at Congress and said the border is secure, the border
32:28
Speaker 2: is secure. He said that to Congress, he was lying,
32:31
Speaker 2: take a list of this from Fox.
32:32
Speaker 5: A short time later, I took down their final target,
32:36
Speaker 5: a Brazilian gang member also charged with child rape. Just
32:40
Speaker 5: this morning today, four accused child rapists and one MS
32:44
Speaker 5: thirteen gang member. Those are the kind of people you're
32:46
Speaker 5: going after.
32:46
Speaker 1: That's every day up here in Boston.
32:49
Speaker 5: If those are the public safety threats that we really
32:50
Speaker 5: want to get off the street, it was a great
32:52
Speaker 5: day for the teams.
32:52
Speaker 1: That's five public safe threats that are on in the community,
32:55
Speaker 1: going go ahead and victimize anyone else.
33:00
Speaker 6: And I says, all of those arrests you just saw
33:02
Speaker 6: happen because local authorities ignored their detainer request to keep
33:06
Speaker 6: these guys in custody due to sanctuary policies. I says,
33:10
Speaker 6: all of those suspects will remain in federal custody until
33:13
Speaker 6: their local charges are resolved, then ICE.
33:16
Speaker 5: Will seek to deport every single one of them.
33:20
Speaker 2: Four alleged child rapists arrested in the morning, and they
33:24
Speaker 2: said they're doing this every day, and local law enforcement
33:28
Speaker 2: is not working with them because local municipalities have said
33:32
Speaker 2: we're sanctuary cities. So these child rapists that are that
33:35
Speaker 2: should have been held by local authorities or not. And
33:39
Speaker 2: yet this administration says, no, no, no, We're following the law.
33:41
Speaker 1: Everything's fine.
33:43
Speaker 3: Every single week, the Biden administration is releasing thousands upon
33:47
Speaker 3: thousands of illegal aliens, that includes murders, that includes rapists,
33:50
Speaker 3: that includes child molesters. Every single week, we are seeing
33:54
Speaker 3: another horrific crime committed by an illegal alien released by
33:58
Speaker 3: Joe Biden and the Democrats, week after week after week.
34:01
Speaker 3: Whether it was Laken Riley and Georgia and the horrific
34:04
Speaker 3: murder that occurred from an illegal alien that Joe Biden
34:07
Speaker 3: the Democrats released, whether it was Jeremy Cassaris, a beautiful
34:11
Speaker 3: two year old boy in Prince George's County, Maryland, just
34:14
Speaker 3: a few miles from where I am right now in
34:16
Speaker 3: d C. Murdered by an eelgalalien that Joe Biden released,
34:20
Speaker 3: or whether it was a fifteen year old girl in Boston, Massachusetts,
34:25
Speaker 3: severely disabled, who was raped by an illegal alien that
34:31
Speaker 3: not only did Biden released, he flew from Haiti to America.
34:36
Speaker 3: So we've covered on this podcast how three hundred and
34:39
Speaker 3: twenty thousand illegal immigrants were flown into America by the
34:42
Speaker 3: Biden administration. He literally imported in a child rapist who's
34:47
Speaker 3: now been arrested for raping the severely disabled fifteen year
34:51
Speaker 3: old teenager. This is happening week after week after week.
34:55
Speaker 3: This is why the Democrats don't argue on the other side.
34:57
Speaker 3: What's the counter argument of, no, it's good a two
35:01
Speaker 3: year old boy is murdered, No, it's good that we
35:03
Speaker 3: have teenage girls being raped. That there is no counter argument.
35:07
Speaker 3: So their counter argument is see no evil. Their counter
35:12
Speaker 3: argument is John Tester running from the Senate floor and
35:15
Speaker 3: hiding in the cloak room because he doesn't want to
35:17
Speaker 3: listen to what's happening. Why because he intends to vote
35:21
Speaker 3: today to say no trial, no evidence. I don't want
35:24
Speaker 3: to know. I do not care about the people dying.
35:29
Speaker 3: I'm a Democrat. I want Democrats to be in power.
35:32
Speaker 3: Ten point four million illegal immigrants meets more Democrat voters.
35:35
Speaker 3: So if people have to die for me to stay
35:38
Speaker 3: in power as a Democrat, I'm okay with that.
35:41
Speaker 4: I got to say, Look, it.
35:43
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35:46
Speaker 3: this because as a Texan, I see I've looked in
35:49
Speaker 3: the eyes when you get down to the border, as
35:50
Speaker 3: I have over and over again, and you look in
35:52
Speaker 3: the eyes of these little children have been brutalized. It
35:54
Speaker 3: makes you angry that these people. Tomorrow, more children will
36:00
Speaker 3: be brutalized, Tomorrow, more women will be raped. And not
36:03
Speaker 3: a one of these democrats cares. Not a one of
36:05
Speaker 3: them will do anything to change and they'll tell you
36:08
Speaker 3: I care, but if you cared, you.
36:10
Speaker 4: Would change it. And not a one of them is
36:12
Speaker 4: willing to do that.
36:14
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38:29
Speaker 4: Do you believe that right now this is a crisis
38:31
Speaker 4: at the border. I think that the answer is no.
38:35
Speaker 4: I think there is a challenge at the border that
38:37
Speaker 4: we are managing, and we have our resources dedicated to
38:41
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38:45
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38:48
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38:52
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Speaker 4: Say you're going to.
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Speaker 6: Offer a motion to dismiss the impeachment charges on Thursday.
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Speaker 6: Are you at all concerned that if some Democrats and
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Speaker 6: tough Races both for that, you can come back.
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Speaker 5: To follow on Campaigndro.
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Speaker 2: Look, we're going to try and resolve this issue as
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Speaker 2: quickly as possible. Impeachment should never be used to settle
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Speaker 2: policy disagreements. Leadership never be used to settle policy disagreements.
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Speaker 2: This is the policy of the Democratic Party. And my
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Speaker 2: archists lied to your face in March of twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: one saying that there's no crisis the border, and in
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Speaker 2: their mind from a policy viewpoint center, I think it's
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Speaker 2: abundantly clear. Now they're on the record saying a wide
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Speaker 2: open southern border and millions of illegals coming across is
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Speaker 2: not a is not a crisis, it's just a policy disagreement.
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Speaker 3: And it's the policy they support. And Schumer repeated those
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Speaker 3: those two lines at the press conference about four more
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Speaker 3: times that said, we're going to try to get rid
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Speaker 3: of us as quickly as possible, and impeachment should never
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Speaker 3: be used policy dispute. What's interesting he didn't have a
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Speaker 3: third line. He was reading those talking points. He was
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Speaker 3: being very precise. He's not defending, he's not saying, hey,
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Speaker 3: this is a good policy. I agree with the policy
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Speaker 3: the Biden administration. I think it's great we have an
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Speaker 3: open border. I think it's terrific that we're releasing murderers.
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Speaker 3: I think it's terrific that we're releasing rapists. I think
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Speaker 3: it's terrific we're releasing child molesters, we're releasing drunk drivers.
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Speaker 3: I think it's terrific that one hundred thousand people have
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Speaker 3: died of drug overdose every year and we keep allowing
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Speaker 3: more and more. I think it's terrific that in twenty eighteen,
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Speaker 3: the Mexican drug cartels made five hundred million dollars from
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Speaker 3: human trafficking. In twenty twenty two, they made thirteen billion dollars.
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Speaker 3: I think it's fabulous that we, the Democrats, have produced
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Speaker 3: a two six hundred percent increase in the revenue for
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Speaker 3: the Mexican drug cartels. The biggest friends the human traffickers
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Speaker 3: have ever had in the history of humanity have been
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden and Alejandro Majorcis. That is the simple reality,
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Speaker 3: and none of that does Chuck Schumer say. Instead says, hey,
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Speaker 3: this is it's just a policy dispute.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: They the other side believes in securing the border, and
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Speaker 3: we want this country invaded.
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Speaker 2: It is the policy of the Democratic Party. And it's sad,
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Speaker 2: but we're witnessing the demise of this country, our borders
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Speaker 2: and our laws at the hands of these people, and
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Speaker 2: it is their America will come back. Though America will
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Speaker 2: come back. We are not witnessing the demise. We are
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Speaker 2: witnessing the attempted demise. And I believe in this country.
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Speaker 2: I think we will come back. I think millions of
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Speaker 2: Americans are looking this and saying, holy crap, this is horrific,
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Speaker 2: This is inhuman, this is wrong. That's why this trial
41:35
Speaker 2: is so important is there are a lot of people that
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Speaker 2: still don't know what's happening.
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Speaker 4: They don't understand.
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Speaker 3: If you watch CNN every day, God help you, but
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Speaker 3: you have no idea because the media or propagandists. That's
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Speaker 3: why this trial is important. But I think people's eyes
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Speaker 3: are opening up.
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Speaker 1: I hope you're right, and it's going to be very
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