Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Interview of the Week: Amar’e Stoudemire tells how a former 6x NBA All-Star Player, now assistant Coach with Brooklyn Nets and develops business ventures Stoudemire Farms and Stoudemire Wines
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- 0:04Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she
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- 1:16Speaker 1: Mari Startermira the six time NBA All Stories currently an
- 1:20Speaker 1: assistant player developer coach for the Brooklyn Nets, and he's
- 1:24Speaker 1: an entrepreneur get it entrepreneur. Omar is the first and
- 1:27Speaker 1: only black kosher winemaker. Amri's owned star Starter Mira Farms,
- 1:32Speaker 1: an organic, family run farm in Duchess County, New York,
- 1:35Speaker 1: which raises black angers. Amar wants to raise awareness about
- 1:38Speaker 1: struggling black farmers and teach the next generation a three
- 1:42Speaker 1: sixty degree view of wellness, which includes not only exercising, food,
- 1:46Speaker 1: but financial wellness and community service A. Mari is also
- 1:49Speaker 1: currently pursuing his master's degree in business from the University
- 1:52Speaker 1: Mary I Am. That's to you, y'all. Do you please
- 1:55Speaker 1: work with the Money Making Conversations. Happy to have one
- 1:58Speaker 1: more show, Amri out of mind, man, Thanks for having me.
- 2:02Speaker 1: How you doing, sir, I'm feeling good, brother, feeling good. No,
- 2:06Speaker 1: you know, Maria, I would tell you something. I'm a
- 2:08Speaker 1: big NBA fans, so I can I can see those
- 2:10Speaker 1: uh those lives from Steve Nash to you and you
- 2:13Speaker 1: slam ducking and you was was like you were an
- 2:16Speaker 1: incredible athlete in the NBA. And talk about that portion
- 2:22Speaker 1: of feeling invincible, feeing all world because you were all world.
- 2:26Speaker 1: Talk about that whole part of your life and then transhing,
- 2:29Speaker 1: the transitioning out of the game. We want to talk
- 2:32Speaker 1: about it as well, but just talk about when you're
- 2:34Speaker 1: the top of your game athletically. You know what, when
- 2:37Speaker 1: you're when you're playing the game at the high level, UM,
- 2:40Speaker 1: you put in so much work to to reach a
- 2:42Speaker 1: level of expertise in your craft. I think for me,
- 2:44Speaker 1: I was able to somewhat strive for greatness and my
- 2:47Speaker 1: and my feeling to be able to try to reach
- 2:49Speaker 1: my full potential. So when you're in that space, man,
- 2:52Speaker 1: you feel like you're just in a different world. You're
- 2:54Speaker 1: in a different stratosphere. UM. And so the energy along
- 2:58Speaker 1: kind of cords in with with your plan and succeeding
- 3:02Speaker 1: at whatever you're doing. And for me it was basketball playing,
- 3:05Speaker 1: going to the you know, conference finals, planning, Olympics, all
- 3:09Speaker 1: Star Games, and all NBA. All these were incredible accolades
- 3:12Speaker 1: that I felt amazing during that stretch. Now, when you
- 3:17Speaker 1: when you feel amazing, like you was saying, um, you know,
- 3:20Speaker 1: any point in that part, there's you know, because you
- 3:23Speaker 1: kind of had your game when it wasn't social media,
- 3:26Speaker 1: and the social media is now so prevalent, and I'm
- 3:28Speaker 1: sure you own social media now, But when social media
- 3:32Speaker 1: made a difference in who a Mari stottom Rar is
- 3:34Speaker 1: if he had it when he played, yeah for sure
- 3:37Speaker 1: with me. When I played, I was I was one
- 3:40Speaker 1: of the first guys to put together All Star campaign
- 3:43Speaker 1: like a like a mini TV show trying to tell
- 3:45Speaker 1: you that goes over the you know, uh you know,
- 3:49Speaker 1: getting fans get out there to vote right on the
- 3:51Speaker 1: vote initiatives. Uh. So I was the first guy to
- 3:53Speaker 1: kind of start that whole movement. And I was also
- 3:56Speaker 1: one of the first guys. So I have my own
- 3:57Speaker 1: uh uh YouTube show, you know so, YouTube channel, I
- 4:03Speaker 1: should say so back back in the early two thousands,
- 4:05Speaker 1: I started a YouTube channel and I was. I was
- 4:07Speaker 1: just you know, recruiting all this content, even back in
- 4:11Speaker 1: the early two thousands, for all the social media came out.
- 4:14Speaker 1: So I was for sure out of the curve. And
- 4:16Speaker 1: if I would have had social media back then, I
- 4:18Speaker 1: would have took for advantage of it. You've been a beast,
- 4:20Speaker 1: You've been a social media beast. Well I liked this,
- 4:22Speaker 1: they say, well, I liked in the game. But you
- 4:24Speaker 1: know the thing about it, man, when you're you're so
- 4:26Speaker 1: articularly you're so you, so you you resonate at a
- 4:30Speaker 1: high level of professionalism, and so there's so many stereotypes
- 4:35Speaker 1: of the black athletes. How do you break that mode?
- 4:38Speaker 1: How did you break that mode? Because you know, even
- 4:40Speaker 1: when you were successful, they're still gonna be stereotypes. How
- 4:43Speaker 1: do you go through dealing with that or do you
- 4:45Speaker 1: deal with it at all? You know what? I think
- 4:48Speaker 1: the idea has been able to to step outside of
- 4:50Speaker 1: your box. Right. You know, I grew up in a
- 4:52Speaker 1: small town of Florida, and I was also raised in
- 4:54Speaker 1: New York and so always in my community box. Um,
- 4:58Speaker 1: and so for me, I was able to step outside
- 5:00Speaker 1: the box and learn new things, uh, advance my conversation
- 5:04Speaker 1: advanced my thinking, and so I think that helped me
- 5:07Speaker 1: somewhat advanced mentally, you know, and so educational wise, I
- 5:11Speaker 1: was able to somewhat pursue education, continue reading and just
- 5:14Speaker 1: trying to trying to improve myself over the years. I
- 5:17Speaker 1: think that helped me somewhat, you know, iron out or
- 5:20Speaker 1: straighten out my conversations and my way of thinking about business.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Right now, you assisted one of your one of your titles,
- 5:26Speaker 1: because you're run our sus Man, I I put up
- 5:28Speaker 1: there if I mentioned everything that you almost a reality show,
- 5:31Speaker 1: you know, a camera should actually follow you around. You know,
- 5:34Speaker 1: you got the farm, you got the wine, you got
- 5:36Speaker 1: the education, and you also assistant player development coach for
- 5:40Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Nets. Tell us exactly what that is. Yeah,
- 5:44Speaker 1: so right now it's my first ship being a part
- 5:46Speaker 1: of like a coaching staff. Right. Actually, I played over
- 5:50Speaker 1: season Israel in the championship there. I got the m
- 5:52Speaker 1: v P last season and so I was looking to
- 5:55Speaker 1: go back over season play another year. But when I
- 5:58Speaker 1: got the opportunity to coach with the Nets. Uh, my
- 6:01Speaker 1: role now is to to to help develop players, but
- 6:04Speaker 1: at the same time learn from the front office and
- 6:07Speaker 1: the coaching staff to see where I want my future
- 6:10Speaker 1: to go, whether it's front office work or whether it's coaching. Okay, cool, now, okay,
- 6:14Speaker 1: now the Brooklyn Nets. Brother, now you you you were
- 6:19Speaker 1: special when you played there. Imorry, I ain't gonna lot
- 6:22Speaker 1: to you. Now you get to see three players I'm
- 6:25Speaker 1: talking about Kevin Durant, James Harden, Kylie R. As a player.
- 6:32Speaker 1: How would you guard them? Oh? What is their greatest
- 6:35Speaker 1: asset as a player? Individuals? I mean, you can't really
- 6:40Speaker 1: guard him. He's got this guy a special These gots
- 6:45Speaker 1: are special offensive players that you just cannot find way
- 6:48Speaker 1: to guard these guys. And you know the strengths is
- 6:53Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is a complete all around playercentage guys like
- 6:59Speaker 1: six or eleven, and he plays like a guard. He
- 7:01Speaker 1: shoots the ball with the best of him. He's sure,
- 7:04Speaker 1: he's for sure one of the all time great scores
- 7:07Speaker 1: that we the game. I've ever seen. Uh. Kyrie Irving
- 7:12Speaker 1: is a point guard that is so creative. I mean
- 7:15Speaker 1: you can never you could. I mean I have never
- 7:17Speaker 1: seen a guard that's this creative before. As far as
- 7:20Speaker 1: the way he finished around the basket, by the way
- 7:23Speaker 1: he gets a shot off, the way he approached the
- 7:25Speaker 1: game is sensational, and then James Harden. Before we get
- 7:29Speaker 1: to James Harden, let's let's stay on Kyrie because I
- 7:31Speaker 1: was talking to Stephen A. Smith. He you know, you
- 7:35Speaker 1: know what he does with that ball man when he's
- 7:38Speaker 1: dribbling it. I saw him doing move with Toy Gibson
- 7:41Speaker 1: in the last game they played against the Knicks Lee
- 7:45Speaker 1: and he went back and forward, back and forward, and
- 7:48Speaker 1: he took him to the whole and all the time
- 7:50Speaker 1: he was dribbling. I've never seen that in my life. I'mori, yeah, man,
- 7:54Speaker 1: he I mean, he's incredible. Man Like, Like I watched
- 7:57Speaker 1: him every day and practice. As you know, I'm was
- 8:00Speaker 1: every game and what I see every night is always
- 8:04Speaker 1: every every game I turn, you know, I have a
- 8:06Speaker 1: moment in the game where I just like just shave
- 8:08Speaker 1: my head like this. And I'm a guy who's seen
- 8:12Speaker 1: at all I've been running over. But but Kyries are different.
- 8:17Speaker 1: He's he's a remarkable player. Now I played. I'm originally
- 8:21Speaker 1: from Houston, Texas, so I got to see the trade
- 8:24Speaker 1: of James Harden to Houston. Didn't know he was that great.
- 8:27Speaker 1: He was a sixth man at the Oklahoma thunders and uh,
- 8:30Speaker 1: and then they have him come to Houston and suddenly
- 8:33Speaker 1: blossom into a superstar. What makes him so unique in
- 8:37Speaker 1: your eyes? As an former athlete and as a as
- 8:40Speaker 1: a coach, Well, James is also a creative in his
- 8:44Speaker 1: own way, right, So make these guys special. The creativity
- 8:48Speaker 1: that one bring to the game that the game have
- 8:50Speaker 1: never seen it make you a special player, right. And
- 8:52Speaker 1: so with James, his creativity, being able to draw fouls,
- 8:56Speaker 1: being able to manipulate the defense, being able to take
- 8:59Speaker 1: with the offense gives him if you're back off from
- 9:02Speaker 1: three point, if not, he drives to the basket. He
- 9:04Speaker 1: has he has just stepped back to the side. I mean,
- 9:07Speaker 1: I mean we saw we saw YouTube clips of him
- 9:10Speaker 1: creating different type of shots. It's like the creativity is
- 9:14Speaker 1: something special. And for a guy like him to be
- 9:16Speaker 1: now the leading assist guy, after being after being the
- 9:21Speaker 1: leading score of the year prior, it shows you how great,
- 9:24Speaker 1: how great James rel is and how he's not selfish.
- 9:26Speaker 1: And a lot of people thought that wouldn't be enough
- 9:29Speaker 1: balls and uh, Brooklyn when he got traded over there. Now,
- 9:33Speaker 1: let's let's talk about you and the transition up you
- 9:37Speaker 1: were currently pursuing a master's degree in business from the
- 9:40Speaker 1: University of Miami. Why isn't that important to you? Well,
- 9:43Speaker 1: for me, I felt like, you know, when I was
- 9:44Speaker 1: in NBA, I had you know, associates that did a
- 9:47Speaker 1: lot of my finances for me, as my and my
- 9:50Speaker 1: team did a remarkable job. But I felt like I
- 9:52Speaker 1: want to be the one also knowing about all the
- 9:54Speaker 1: intricate details that's concerning the business. You know on my side, right,
- 9:58Speaker 1: so I have my hands involved in a lot of
- 10:00Speaker 1: different businesses. I want to be able to know how
- 10:03Speaker 1: to articulate my conversation acts the right questions with future
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- 12:15Speaker 1: era for especially NBA players because NBA players are not
- 12:20Speaker 1: what they used to be. Their their their leaders in
- 12:22Speaker 1: the corporate space, their leaders in entertainment. What what is
- 12:26Speaker 1: making like NBA players so unique and how they approach
- 12:30Speaker 1: the game, why they're playing as well? And also the
- 12:33Speaker 1: excellent because you can actually see you guys. You guys
- 12:35Speaker 1: have we know you don't have a help on your face.
- 12:37Speaker 1: I don't look at baseball because it's not enough blacks
- 12:39Speaker 1: to make a difference in baseball. At one time they
- 12:42Speaker 1: felt that too many blacks will ruin the game of basketball,
- 12:45Speaker 1: and that's not the case. What is really making that
- 12:48Speaker 1: transition for you guys so successful? Because you play the
- 12:51Speaker 1: most games other than outside of baseball, so you're busy
- 12:54Speaker 1: all the time. So how are you able to pursue
- 12:57Speaker 1: a degree plan. And also you still you okay, and
- 13:02Speaker 1: but you also we're gonna talk about the other two businesses,
- 13:04Speaker 1: winery and the black angers pharm in a minute, because
- 13:07Speaker 1: you're still as busy as you were when you're playing, right.
- 13:13Speaker 1: And so the idea has been able to put people
- 13:16Speaker 1: in power and position of power to bear to articulate
- 13:18Speaker 1: these businesses for you and oversee each individual entity, which
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- 13:24Speaker 1: to be knowledgeable. You have to be up on your
- 13:27Speaker 1: game to to hold the people accountable that are in
- 13:30Speaker 1: charge of these different businesses. Um. And so for me,
- 13:33Speaker 1: what I think in my generation was myself like this
- 13:36Speaker 1: whole error right now. And I think the next generation
- 13:39Speaker 1: is starting to you know, figure out as well. But
- 13:42Speaker 1: me Lebron, Carmelo, Chris Paul, you know this mean started
- 13:48Speaker 1: with Kobe and Garnett and those guys, but this whole
- 13:50Speaker 1: era of of of guys and players that are thinking
- 13:54Speaker 1: more so about intelligence and also basketball. Right. So for
- 14:00Speaker 1: it's always been like a narrative of like all the
- 14:02Speaker 1: basketball players or athletes are just dumb jocks like sports,
- 14:07Speaker 1: and so we're like that's not true, and it's that's
- 14:10Speaker 1: that's that's a bad narrative, that's false. So what we're
- 14:13Speaker 1: doing now is proven that by being uh someone educated
- 14:17Speaker 1: on on everything that we do and being innovative without
- 14:20Speaker 1: without businesses. Now it's interesting thing because I read this
- 14:23Speaker 1: when I introduced you to talking about financial wellness and
- 14:26Speaker 1: community service because it was together and I think they
- 14:28Speaker 1: do run together. So because throughout your career, I always
- 14:31Speaker 1: knew about you community service. Now, what is that conversation
- 14:35Speaker 1: that you're trying to create when it comes to financial wellness? Well,
- 14:39Speaker 1: financial wellness is important. I mean, obviously we had a
- 14:41Speaker 1: lot of systemic racism where a lot of the African
- 14:44Speaker 1: American culture have been somewhere behind the paradigm when it
- 14:47Speaker 1: comes to being able to obtain wealth and pass their
- 14:51Speaker 1: wealth down to the next generation. Um, and so we're
- 14:54Speaker 1: somewhere behind schedule. We have to play the catch up game,
- 14:57Speaker 1: uh for us now. And I think, um, you know,
- 15:00Speaker 1: financial literacy and financial you know wealth is important because
- 15:04Speaker 1: we have to now understand how to uh not only
- 15:07Speaker 1: make the money, but also save the money and then
- 15:09Speaker 1: also invest. And those are those are those are interricate
- 15:12Speaker 1: balances between knowing how to save, which means you have
- 15:16Speaker 1: to somewhat disconnect yourself from certain possiblanity because you don't
- 15:19Speaker 1: want to get caught up in spending money that's not
- 15:21Speaker 1: gonna do you any good. You have to also know
- 15:24Speaker 1: how to invest, because investing would allow that money to
- 15:26Speaker 1: then make money for itself. Um, and then you have
- 15:29Speaker 1: to aw to save. When you're saving, you can now
- 15:33Speaker 1: put to put aside certain funds for your children so
- 15:36Speaker 1: when they become an adults, that can have a hair
- 15:38Speaker 1: start on a head start in the financial space moving forward.
- 15:42Speaker 1: So you have to be able to have that financial
- 15:43Speaker 1: literacy for sure. Well, you know an interesting thing when
- 15:46Speaker 1: when I'm hearing you talk about your brain and your career.
- 15:49Speaker 1: First of all, you know, uh, if you ever want
- 15:52Speaker 1: to go back on TV, please call me tomorrow. You're
- 15:55Speaker 1: a fantastic brother, you know. You know, I don't know
- 15:58Speaker 1: if you have a TV representative, but please call ra
- 16:00Speaker 1: Sean McDonald because you're you're special brother. You know, I
- 16:04Speaker 1: don't know what they paying. You'd be on the Assistant
- 16:06Speaker 1: Player Development Code, but you need to be on TV. Brother,
- 16:09Speaker 1: h your insights incredible, great smile and say I'll be
- 16:13Speaker 1: breaking it down. May you do you know, maybe you
- 16:15Speaker 1: might knowing the google me a little bit. You you'll
- 16:17Speaker 1: find out when I tell you you're special. Man, you
- 16:18Speaker 1: go that brother does know what you're talking about. But
- 16:21Speaker 1: when But I had C. J. McCullen on one show twice.
- 16:24Speaker 1: Now he has a wine line that's sold out as well.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Now you got into wine business. But you know, but
- 16:30Speaker 1: you're a black kosher winemaker. Please tell us the significance
- 16:34Speaker 1: of that, well being Bill his first, I don't think
- 16:38Speaker 1: there's another black culture wine make graphs in the world,
- 16:41Speaker 1: man um and so I wanted someone trange that narrative.
- 16:44Speaker 1: Also is being able to now step into a coatural
- 16:46Speaker 1: spaces space where where health is wealth, right, um and
- 16:50Speaker 1: so and so you know, the winery out of out
- 16:53Speaker 1: of Israel was important for me to get involved in
- 16:55Speaker 1: because you know, obviously having the Biblical ties and knowing
- 16:58Speaker 1: that throughout the whole bit context there's always been wine
- 17:02Speaker 1: involved in the Bible, right, So I wanted to kind
- 17:03Speaker 1: of back with that soil and create a juice that
- 17:08Speaker 1: people here in American drink and be a part of
- 17:10Speaker 1: Israel like they can be a part of that biblical connotation. Um.
- 17:14Speaker 1: So that's how the resinally started and then now I
- 17:17Speaker 1: just released two more bottles that's made in California. There's
- 17:21Speaker 1: there's a cabinet Savoon that's cab that's made in California.
- 17:25Speaker 1: Amar said that again seven I got, I got particularly
- 17:29Speaker 1: like you. How do you say that? Man? Just let
- 17:30Speaker 1: it roll off your lip? Kevin Savenon, what do you say, brother?
- 17:34Speaker 1: You need to stop man. You're a smooth operative brother.
- 17:38Speaker 1: Come on, come on say it one more time? What
- 17:40Speaker 1: you saying? That's the that's the cabinet Savona from California.
- 17:47Speaker 1: And I have a I have a petite bird dough
- 17:49Speaker 1: that's also rose, also California. Right now, Why you know,
- 17:54Speaker 1: two years ago reading USA Today and they was talking
- 17:56Speaker 1: about NBA players and why why it was such a
- 18:00Speaker 1: popular uh drink. And NBA players walk around with little
- 18:04Speaker 1: cases with wine in the little cases and they travel
- 18:07Speaker 1: with their wine. Why is that the case? Well, you
- 18:10Speaker 1: know what, I think the NBA nowadays is becoming a
- 18:13Speaker 1: luxury brand. A lot of the players that are in
- 18:16Speaker 1: the NBA and have played in the NBA are you know,
- 18:20Speaker 1: their brands are considered to be luxury brands. So why
- 18:23Speaker 1: is a part of their luxury connotation so I think
- 18:26Speaker 1: when a lot of the guys who like to go
- 18:27Speaker 1: out and have generas you know, five star restaurants, mission
- 18:30Speaker 1: the restaurants, they want to sit down and drink wine.
- 18:33Speaker 1: You want to smoke cigars, they want to drink whiskey
- 18:35Speaker 1: and chill lacks, have a good fun night. Those are
- 18:39Speaker 1: those are the ideas that a lot of NBA guys
- 18:41Speaker 1: are thinking and so getting into that wine space kind
- 18:44Speaker 1: of goes with their brand. Now, now let's go up
- 18:47Speaker 1: to another part of your entrepreneur career. Is that's why
- 18:50Speaker 1: I love about you. It's not like you your pigeonhole. Okay. Now,
- 18:54Speaker 1: the the start of Mire Farms, which is the organic
- 18:57Speaker 1: family run farm in Duchess County, New York. That is
- 19:00Speaker 1: his black angers talk about how did that come about
- 19:03Speaker 1: in your life? Who turned you on to the opportunity? Well,
- 19:06Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You know, it's funny. I
- 19:08Speaker 1: grew up in a small town in Florida, which is
- 19:10Speaker 1: like you know, it's like a farmtown kind of type. Deal.
- 19:13Speaker 1: Also lived in New York for a while. Right, So
- 19:16Speaker 1: my grandfather was my grandfather, Jack was an entrepreneur himself.
- 19:22Speaker 1: He had like he fish in the morning. He had
- 19:24Speaker 1: grape vines and peace trees in the backyard. He would
- 19:27Speaker 1: have you know, all these different agriculture uh elements and
- 19:32Speaker 1: you know at his home. And so when I when
- 19:34Speaker 1: I go to my grandfather's house, I would see all
- 19:36Speaker 1: this and I would see how he works in until
- 19:38Speaker 1: the soil. And so I was like, there's an opportunity
- 19:41Speaker 1: that came along my way here in New York where
- 19:43Speaker 1: a friend of mine we're moving to Italy, and had
- 19:47Speaker 1: this massive ranch out upstate New York. And they're like, hey,
- 19:51Speaker 1: we you know, we have this ranch. We're just you know,
- 19:53Speaker 1: really just trying to get rid of it. And so
- 19:56Speaker 1: I was like, sure. You know, for me, my initial
- 19:58Speaker 1: thought was having a nice get way place for the family.
- 20:01Speaker 1: They can have a nice vacation, uh and go out
- 20:04Speaker 1: the log cabin, relaxed, light up, the light up, the
- 20:06Speaker 1: fire pit. Um. But then I turned it into a
- 20:09Speaker 1: working farm. And so I used about a hundred and
- 20:13Speaker 1: eighty five acres of it, and I brought in some
- 20:16Speaker 1: black angers. I brought a farm hand. And now, and
- 20:19Speaker 1: this is about seven to ten years ago, so are
- 20:22Speaker 1: you and the horse? No, I have no horses. Okay,
- 20:26Speaker 1: you're not riding the har you do how do you
- 20:27Speaker 1: get out there and and and corral the the anger?
- 20:31Speaker 1: What do you do? You know? Up what you're out
- 20:34Speaker 1: there doing? Yeah, I got, I got, I got the
- 20:36Speaker 1: a t V A TV. You rolling, huh yeah, man,
- 20:40Speaker 1: so so so the farm hand actually whenever, whenever, whenever
- 20:43Speaker 1: you go on the farm, you have like a certain
- 20:45Speaker 1: feed and the cows that come to you, you know,
- 20:48Speaker 1: because they're come right to you, and you can somewhat
- 20:51Speaker 1: you know, showing which way to go, and you fence
- 20:53Speaker 1: some men depend on which which other land you want
- 20:56Speaker 1: them to graze, right, because you have some parts of
- 20:59Speaker 1: some parts of the land it needs to grow back,
- 21:01Speaker 1: and so you take them to another part of the
- 21:03Speaker 1: land fencing mailer the graze that right, and then you
- 21:06Speaker 1: reread them out that way, uh, field by field. But
- 21:09Speaker 1: it's an easy deal, man, you know, it's it's it's
- 21:11Speaker 1: an easy deal and it's fun because now there's a
- 21:14Speaker 1: new there's a new situation now with the American government
- 21:16Speaker 1: that now are giving back to the black farmers. Yeah,
- 21:20Speaker 1: because before um um, you know, there was like I
- 21:24Speaker 1: think like sixteen percent of the population were black farmers,
- 21:30Speaker 1: and now it's down to like point two percent of
- 21:33Speaker 1: the farmers that are black. And so now the government's
- 21:36Speaker 1: are gonna re issue that and try to enhance black farmers.
- 21:39Speaker 1: So I was also ahead of that curve as well.
- 21:41Speaker 1: You know, Congressman uh Lindsay Graham called it reparations, that's
- 21:45Speaker 1: what he was calling. That was in this deal, you know,
- 21:48Speaker 1: funding for black farmers. You know, when you when you
- 21:51Speaker 1: are a man of many hats, what you know, I
- 21:54Speaker 1: won't use the word one had are you most proud
- 21:56Speaker 1: of win? Now? But what allows you the ability to multitask? Well?
- 22:02Speaker 1: I think for me, everything that everything that I get
- 22:04Speaker 1: myself involved in, our passions that I love doing right
- 22:09Speaker 1: and and I also learned about it first. I learned
- 22:11Speaker 1: about it and understand it first before I really get involved. Um,
- 22:15Speaker 1: and so it allows me to do it naturally. You know.
- 22:18Speaker 1: I feel like if you force something you're not too
- 22:20Speaker 1: sure about it, then it makes it it doesn't look
- 22:22Speaker 1: as natural, doesn't feel as clean, it doesn't feel as right,
- 22:25Speaker 1: you know. So, uh, everything that I do is based
- 22:28Speaker 1: upon like my passions, what I enjoy doing. How can
- 22:31Speaker 1: I now pass this down to the next generation right
- 22:35Speaker 1: and set the tone for for them? So let's talk
- 22:38Speaker 1: about that next generation that you talk about a wellness
- 22:42Speaker 1: and and then you talk about that, you know, so
- 22:44Speaker 1: they won't struggle. You know, do you feel a responsibility?
- 22:47Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to put your onw but I
- 22:48Speaker 1: hopefully we're just having a really good conversation with a
- 22:50Speaker 1: successful person who has been successful with so many this
- 22:53Speaker 1: level as an athlete, now as an academic because you
- 22:57Speaker 1: got give your masters, you got about god to degree
- 23:00Speaker 1: you can't get, you can't skill to get that. So
- 23:03Speaker 1: you've been successful at that level as well. Your entrepreneur,
- 23:05Speaker 1: you wouldn't have step on in the beauty of having
- 23:08Speaker 1: land always My dad just always say God ain't making
- 23:11Speaker 1: no more land. So when you buy the land, that's
- 23:13Speaker 1: an investment. Did you should hold on too? So that's
- 23:15Speaker 1: a smart move on your part right there. But when
- 23:17Speaker 1: you talk about next generation, what is your responsibility especially
- 23:21Speaker 1: in wellness because in twenty we discovered how a global
- 23:26Speaker 1: pandemic can affect African Americans and we saw the George
- 23:30Speaker 1: Flaw situation. What role did you feel you've had to
- 23:33Speaker 1: play and what role did you play from the pandemic
- 23:36Speaker 1: side and from a civil unrest and trying to try
- 23:39Speaker 1: to get people understand that we are and we should
- 23:41Speaker 1: be represented properly as African Americans. Yeah, for sure. I
- 23:45Speaker 1: mean I think I think my ideal of it is
- 23:47Speaker 1: being able to understand our heritage, sir. And I think
- 23:51Speaker 1: that's key because I'm sure, I'm sure it's governmental facts
- 23:54Speaker 1: and paperwork in the files there, but a lot of
- 23:57Speaker 1: the African Americans that were brought to America from like
- 24:00Speaker 1: the children of Israel, from a you Dan that you
- 24:03Speaker 1: Dan region. So for us, for me, what I always
- 24:07Speaker 1: try to connect the people with is being able for
- 24:09Speaker 1: them to reconnect with the Bible so they can understand
- 24:12Speaker 1: their heritage and then start to follow suit in that way.
- 24:16Speaker 1: And so that isn't that's an important message for me
- 24:19Speaker 1: to someone give to the children because we have our
- 24:23Speaker 1: heritage only goes back to slavery, you know at one point,
- 24:26Speaker 1: like we've we've been there's so many different titles of
- 24:29Speaker 1: heritage that we've been given. Whether it's Black, it's Negro,
- 24:32Speaker 1: whether it's African American, whether it's you know, whatever these
- 24:35Speaker 1: names are. But what's our heritage, and our heritage is
- 24:39Speaker 1: the Bible. Our here, our heritage is inside the history book.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Not important for us to reconnect with that and to
- 24:46Speaker 1: understand what that means and do your own particular learning
- 24:49Speaker 1: to figure that part out and then go from there.
- 24:52Speaker 1: Oh man, it's been a wonderful conversation, Tomora. Man. Uh,
- 24:56Speaker 1: you're special, brother. But because you know that, and I
- 24:58Speaker 1: hope you understand that the gifts that you've given to
- 25:00Speaker 1: us as an entrepreneur, as a leader, as a as
- 25:03Speaker 1: a person who's understands the value of education, as a landowner,
- 25:08Speaker 1: which is beautiful for black people to say that, because
- 25:10Speaker 1: we know that land has been stripped away from us
- 25:13Speaker 1: illegally at times, uh, from a scam way, and we're
- 25:17Speaker 1: not and not being in the position to make money
- 25:19Speaker 1: from the land that we buy. And you were smart
- 25:21Speaker 1: enough to see there was value in it and having
- 25:23Speaker 1: the black angers for me raising uh as these these cattle,
- 25:26Speaker 1: I'm up there and making money off of it. Continue
- 25:29Speaker 1: to do what you do, Man, I want to. I
- 25:31Speaker 1: wanna thank you, brother for coming on my show. Money
- 25:32Speaker 1: making conversations, absolutely, Bro, thanks as an amazing conversation. That's
- 25:36Speaker 1: do it again. Yeah, man, I tell you something more.
- 25:39Speaker 1: I'm not lying. Man. You are gifted, brother, But you
- 25:41Speaker 1: knew that al right, because you're the YouTube show. I
- 25:43Speaker 1: just to watch it. I would looking at it to you.
- 25:45Speaker 1: You you're creating Chris Boss. Chris Boss followed you with
- 25:49Speaker 1: that little commercial he did. I'm not looking at man.
- 25:52Speaker 1: You are a special man, and I was happy to
- 25:54Speaker 1: see you on Steven as Stephen stephen A's World, man,
- 25:57Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of time people they image
- 26:00Speaker 1: of you, of anybody, especially from an athletic standpoint, and
- 26:04Speaker 1: you're so smooth and you're so smart. Uh, don't stop, man,
- 26:07Speaker 1: And I'll always to let you know, Man, I'm a
- 26:09Speaker 1: fan of yours, just as a man and because you
- 26:13Speaker 1: are doing some man stuff and don't stop. Okay, all right,
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