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January 31: Teofimo-Shakur, plus Top Rank and ProBox · Boxing B-Sides

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  The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
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  B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
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  The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
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  -Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
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  Alright, let's fucking boogie. Oh shit, the boxing
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  B -Sides. Back up in your ears. We are here to
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  talk the fights. I am joined by Comrade Josh.
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  Become Chinese now. And the one and only Saul.
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  What's up, guys? We are comrades now after the...
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  This is a Chinese podcast. Yeah. A couple of
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  fateful incidents happened in our country. The
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  murder of Alex Preddy. They are now comrades
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  at this point. I'm trying to increase my social
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  credit score. why is selby moved to section 8
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  housing also hurtful oh man this one probably
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  not gonna land for you guys but extending the
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  hand of friendship to our fellows over at the
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  ultimate effing casuals where we talk mma this
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  weekend usc 325 um there are some decent fights
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  on here uh one Just a few examples. Let's see.
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  Quillen Salkild is fighting Rong Zhu. He had
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  one of the knockouts of the year for 2025. Let's
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  see. Who else? Dan Hooker versus Benoit Santany.
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  BSD is a fucking machine. And in the main...
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  Alexander Volkanovski, the featherweight champ,
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  versus Diego Lopez. This is a rematch. The first
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  fight was pretty lopsided. We talk about it over
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  on Ultimate FN Casuals. We're pretty confused
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  why this is happening. But hey, you gotta make
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  do with what you got. So, enough MMA talk. First
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  thing I wanted to talk about in the news. The
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  Ali Revival Act clears committee. This does not
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  mean that it has passed. For those who are unfamiliar
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  with American legislation, first, bills or amendments
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  start in committee. Once they pass committee,
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  they move to the Speaker of the House who decides
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  whether or not it will be heard for a vote. Assuming
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  it will be because Dana White friends with Trump
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  and Mike Johnson does whatever Trump tells them
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  to do. This is going to be heard for a vote.
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  Right now, the numbers are such that it will
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  pass the House. But after that, it has to go
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  to committee in the Senate and repeat the process
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  in the Senate, where I'm not sure it has enough
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  votes to pass. So there are some. There are some
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  barriers that this has to clear before it becomes
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  law. So, you know, don't get your fucking skirts
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  in a bunch yet. But some of the changes to the
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  Muhammad Ali Boxing Revival Act are thus. The
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  fighter minimum pay has increased from $150 a
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  round to $200 a round. The minimum insurance
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  coverage increases from $25 ,000 to $50 ,000.
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  All fighter contracts have a six -year sunset
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  clause. Secondary titles are eliminated. There
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  is a mandate of one champion per division. It
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  does allow for interim fights if the champion
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  is injured. Or whatever. Something is not preventing
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  them from competing. And this one's a little
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  wonky. A random drug testing for all fights.
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  Both fighters in a title fight must be tested.
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  And a randomized half of all fighters on a card
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  must be tested. So one fighter in each fight
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  will be tested. You don't know which one. And
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  this will all be to the world anti -doping agency
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  standard. It's quite a bit. Yeah. It's a lot.
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  Josh, what do you got? I like their kind of...
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  I get it. I get there's a lot in here. Like,
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  a lot of the modifications ended up being positive.
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  Because if you... have read a lot of, you've
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  read all the documentation, but all these things
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  are added in committee rather than being a part
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  of the act as it was brought up. And I don't
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  mind the changes, but the broad strokes basically
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  like getting rid of those barriers to being a
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  promoter and a manager of a fighter. Yes. They're
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  still troubling. The way I'm looking at it is
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  all these changes basically fix the bottom potential
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  of the sport, but they're going to end up basically
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  leveling it to that bottom. It's not about what's
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  in front of you on the text, it's how it's going
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  to be used by the powers that are bringing it
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  into existence. Because a lot of these changes
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  aren't bad, it's just... You already know this
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  is mostly a PR play by a group that you're going
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  to see fighters pay slashed to these minimums
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  real quick instead of what they're worth because
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  that is and has always been the UFC model of
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  doing business. That's most employers in the
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  US. It's like, how little can I get away with
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  paying you? Yeah, like that's why we have labor
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  standards. And I get the minimum. The minimum
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  isn't like rare. Rarely is even at club shows
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  like it's based on the tickets you sell. So like
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  those minimums are rarely ever a factor. But
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  it's that it's just that relationship between
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  promoter and manager that the act was created
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  to prevent. That concerns me when it comes to
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  this act. I agree 100%. I feel like there's a
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  good amount of things in here that are positive.
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  I think that getting rid of a lot of those belts
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  will help streamline at least the simplicity
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  of knowing who's champion and how people become
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  champion. I understand that in the case of like
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  the WBA like super duper and world and regular
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  belts but in terms of like how this would affect
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  say like the NABF Yeah, like the smaller titles.
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  I was going to bring that up. Yeah, like the
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  thing is that like those, like would those qualify
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  as the one belt under the one belt for division?
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  Are we still keeping regional belts, which are
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  really important for fighters on lesser promotions
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  to claw up a ranking and force fights? You know,
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  to me, this feels... Sorry, I should be finished.
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  Like the major... like the example here is how
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  the opbf basically lets uh smaller fighters from
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  non -money places get fights in the wbc and get
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  ranked and taking that away like the nabf is
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  also that stepping stone like when you see guys
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  you've never heard of in wba title fights usually
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  they took the nabf and then kept moving ebu is
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  another good example that's similar to the opbf
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  gets like people from um the czech republic who
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  are something montenegro they like they get they
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  work their way into a title fight through that
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  route so how that was something similar that
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  i talked to when i was talking with shinada about
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  it is how do these Like, regional organizations,
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  how are they affected by this? Yeah. One thing
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  this feels like is, I feel like this act is kind
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  of, feels like money laundering in a sense. Like,
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  it feels like they added a lot of things in here
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  after the fact, from when it was first conceived,
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  just to get it passed through just so that they
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  could benefit the Zufa, the people who wanted
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  to push this through as Zufa. People at Zufa.
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  So this adds on to what Josh was saying, that
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  they added a lot of good things to help the bottom
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  potential of the sport. But because of that,
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  it's going to level it out. Because it has also
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  a whole bunch of other shit that, like the UBO,
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  the UBO shit, that's going to, that's included
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  in there too. It's not like they're trying to
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  do this for the betterment of the sport. They're
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  just going to do it for the betterment of themselves.
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  Yeah, listening to like as it was in committee
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  being talked about, hearing like the different
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  representatives speak on it, there were some
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  very clear cases of some of them being on the
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  side of UBOs. And two, one of which I'm very
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  proud to mention, two that spoke up on behalf
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  of the fighters. were Ilhan Omar out of Minnesota
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  and Adelita Grijalva out of Arizona. So those
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  are two people who fucking stepped in to speak
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  up about protecting fighters and not UBOs or
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  whatever supposed free market competition that
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  this is supposed to create, which it doesn't.
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  A lot of the costs of these things like drug
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  testing and a lot of these minimums are going
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  to be borne by club shows, club fighters, and
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  club promoters. They're not going to be able
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  to do WADA testing for half of the fucking card.
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  I'm sure they can't afford it for just the main
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  event or else they probably would. The one thing
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  that I was hoping to hear was that maybe the
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  state athletic commissions could step in on that
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  part. But we have, we've yet to see. There was
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  the executive officer of the California State
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  Athletic Commission, and he was speaking in favor
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  of a lot of these changes. And in the short term,
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  or on their face, they sound great. Increasing
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  fighter minimum pay, increasing insurance coverage,
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  that's fantastic. But when you think about how
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  that's going to be applied, not we're not talking
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  about match room or pbc or or top rank even even
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  though they're in a little bit of a weird state
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  right now the those who are going to be bearing
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  the brunt of this are at the bottom of the food
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  chain and it's going to eliminate like grassroots
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  competition just and also kind of Add on to the
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  railroads fighters into instead of signing, instead
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  of listening to, let's say, a manager that they
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  like has their best interest in mind. It railroads
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  that much like Don King in the 80s railroads
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  them into the is basically me or you never get
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  a career type of promotion slash management.
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  Yeah, if you don't sign with Zufa or you're not
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  lucky enough to be picked by Matchroom or PBC,
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  then you don't compete. And your career ends
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  there. Yeah, this is, it's tough to see. Man.
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  I don't know. Anybody else have closing thoughts?
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  Because I'm at a loss. This act is a fucking
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  travesty. Well, the thing is that the fact that
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  fighters are already struggling. People don't
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  want to join the sport at the very bottom of
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  it. I think it's also going to discourage people
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  from joining the pros also. Coming out of the
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  amateur system. If they even go into. if they
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  even decide to join at all at that point it might
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  discourage people from becoming promoters or
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  becoming managers or just being involved in the
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  sport in general at the club level because it's
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  too much fucking money you know and in turn you
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  have less you have less of an opportunity as
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  an amateur to be built up in that way you know
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  So as much as the amateur scene is getting killed
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  right now, it's going to be killing the bottom
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  tier of the scene, which is going to end up trickling
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  up or spreading to the top because then you have
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  even less talent going up. That's why there's
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  no American heavyweights. It's because no guy
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  that's an American heavyweight size wants to
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  join the amateurs. I'd rather try for the NFL
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  than get my fucking face pummeled. Or even if
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  I'm tall as shit and not built for the NFL, I
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  can go play basketball in Europe and make a very
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  healthy living versus at no cost to my life or
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  limb, might I add. Exactly. As much as the amateur
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  scene is fucked, I mean, this fucks the pro scene
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  as much. Yeah. At this point, the only thing
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  I can really suggest, is if you're an American
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  listener, call your representative, tell them
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  to oppose this bill. Call your senator, tell
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  them to oppose this bill. That's the best we
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  can do right now. Unfortunately... Heap pirating
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  UFC events. Dana White hates that shit. But,
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  yeah, we had to start it off with a more difficult
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  note. Before we move to... Gervonta Davis has
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  been officially stripped by the WBA. He is on
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  the run from the federal marshals. Nobody knows
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  where he is. As of right now, no one knows where
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  he is. This shit is beyond funny. How do you
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  lose him? Well, he's so tiny. I get that, but
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  how do you lose him, bro? He's on the lam, yeah.
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  I mean, he's a fucking... Fucking star. How do
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  you lose that type of... You know? Yeah, like,
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  come on, bro. Like, especially, like, he definitely...
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  Like, you've seen his cars, too. Like, there
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  is no way... They aren't just gonna, like...
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  They haven't... They just haven't looked for
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  him. He's not driving away in a Nissan Altima.
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  Alright? Yeah, like... He's in a fucking Rolls
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  or something. He's in a fucking Rolls... He's
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  in a Rolls Royce with... The license place T4NK.
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  Like, come on. Like, be so fucking for real with
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  me right now, bro. Nah, he's gotta be somewhere.
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  He's on fucking... He might not even be in the
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  country, actually. Might be gone. Might be in
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  Dagestan. That was kind of a joke I made with
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  Shanada was, like, if you check his Google search
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  history... It's non -extradition countries. But
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  at the same time, you have to think, does Gervonta
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  Davis, can he, does he know about, like, does
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  that cross his mind? You know, he's not very
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  book smart. He could be hanging out with Andrew
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  Tate and his brother in Romania. Those boys are
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  back. They're in the US. They were so bad that
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  even Romania extradited them. Tank is going to
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  become red -pilled, I guess. Right -wing grift
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  tank, bro. Yeah, right -wing grift tank, yeah.
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  All the way in fucking Romania. Well, let's keep
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  rolling with some bad news here. Jai Opataya
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  signs with Zufa. Now, something I had... Shanada
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  mentioned that in her... boxing news diet, she
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  came across some rumors that Obataya gets paid
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  fucking dog shit by Tasman Fighters, the promotional
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  group that he's with in Australia. He gets paid
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  absolute dog shit. So for Zufa to be a step in
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  a better direction for him tells you a lot about
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  where he was. in his boxing career. Well, he's
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  still a fucking champion. Yeah. IBF. So Leo and
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  I were talking about this earlier. We were discussing
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  it. The fact that Zufa is signed a champion in
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  and of itself is a little concerning, but the
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  fact that they're not stripping him and he's
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  still going to be fighting for other belts shows
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  that Zufa in and of itself doesn't have any teeth
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  in the game right now. Where they could run their
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  own fucking promotional model, their own belt,
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  their own organization. Because they're still
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  fighting under another roof. IBF rules for Obata.
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  Yeah, IBF. Exactly. And they still want to fight
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  Zerto for his titles or McClellan. How the fuck
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  do you say his name? McClellan. McClellan? For
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  his title. Yeah, McClellan. Yeah, they want to
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  do a unification with McClellan. You know, they're
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  still fighting under the old rules. So, I mean,
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  it just shows you that Zilpha is not... He doesn't
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  have his teeth right now. Cheese sticks. It's
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  disobeying its own foundation. My thinking here
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  is they're going to get Opitaya, who currently
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  has the IBF, as you mentioned. They're going
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  to try to get him to be undisputed. So that they
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  can then crown him with the Zufa title and say,
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  look, the undisputed champion is the Zufa champion.
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  You know what I mean? That's my thinking of what
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  they're trying to do here. That's only going
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  to happen if, let's say, Benavidez beats Zerto.
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  If they fight Benavidez, what if Benavidez wins?
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  Then what, do you have a fucking bomb? You know?
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  Yeah. He can fucking lose a fight. Random ass
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  Australian dude on your promotion. Excellent.
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  Yeah. Who the fuck is Jairo Pataya? Oh, he's
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  some Tasmanian guy. He lost to some of the best
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  guys in boxing. Also, he's not the champ. Well,
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  he's the champion of our organization. And that's
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  just fine. Yeah. You know, I might just start.
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  Obviously, if it's against David Benavidez, I'm
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  always going to root for David. But, like, I
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  really want Obitai to lose. Because, damn, that
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  would be a big fucking little finger to Zufa.
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  There's, I think you guys might know him as Slick.
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  He goes by Slick Terror Moana Jab in Discord.
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  Jacob. Australian Jacob. Yeah. He mentioned that
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  this, as bad as it is for us to see this happen
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  as fans, this is a good step for Opitaya, just
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  him personally. He's getting the money while
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  he can, as much money as he can while he can,
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  given the nature of the sport. His time is not
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  long. You know what I mean? So he's getting the
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  money while he can. He's getting in on the ground
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  floor so he can get deals like this where he
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  can continue to fight under the old system and
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  unify with other fighters. And that's great for
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  him. It's good for him. And that's great right
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  now. But we know, like in the future, Fighters
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  are not going to get that kind of leeway. So,
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  I can, as much as I really, really want to shit
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  on Zufa, just, I guess, Opitaya, if this is how
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  you want to get paid, man, then my best wishes.
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  50 Gs, baby. Yep. Get that performance bonus.
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  Man, do you realize that the 50 G's is the same
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  as the Ice signing bonus? That's fucking crazy.
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  The signing bonus for Ice is the same as the
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  fucking Zufa bonus. Comrade, this has gotten
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  a fucking disgrace. It's a disgrace, bro. Like,
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  good for Jai for trying to get that bag, but
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  like... Like, I just thought about it. ICE officers
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  are getting paid better than you. Yeah, if I
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  see Jai Upataya at a fucking protest, trying
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  to arrest my ICE, I'm calling Murder's Isle over.
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  Well, you gotta stage the ultimate battle. ICE
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  Upataya versus Zerto. It's fucking perfect. ICE
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  Upataya. ICE Upataya. Oh my god. Ah. Someone
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  who was able to resist the Sauron's ring. Matchroom
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  beats Zufa's offer to Bam Rodriguez. Word is
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  Bam is still shopping, as is his right. But Zufa
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  did make him an offer. Matchroom beat that offer.
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  Bam is still checking around. If for all intents
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  and purposes, Bam is going back to Matchroom.
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  It's a very smart decision. Thank fucking fuck.
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  Very smart decision because, again, who the fuck
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  is Azufa in his weight class, you know? I mean,
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  signing with Matchroom is also smart because
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  same thing with other promoters besides, I would
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  say, TopRank, you know, PBC, Gary Jonas' ProBox.
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  Queensbury. And then we've got a lot of guys
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  down there. TopRank has some guys, but I mean,
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  it's fucking, dude, they're on Tubi. Do you want
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  to be on fucking Tubi? Is Eddie Hearn saving
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  boxing in 2026? Is that what's happening right
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  now? He is, bro. It's over. It's so over for
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  this fucking sport. Jesus fucking fuck. Well,
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  he started it. He started the end. Now he's on
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  his hero comeback story. Yeah, he did get The
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  turkey machine rolling. But yeah, Zufa tried
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  to get Bam. That would mean that Bam would have
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  to move up to 118 since Zufa doesn't recognize
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  the non -original weight classes, which is interesting
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  that they signed Opitaya because cruiserweight
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  is not one of the original weight classes. But
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  I don't know. Maybe he'll be a light heavy or
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  heavy. I think they're going to keep him at cruiserweight
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  because cruiserweight pretty much sucks. There's
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  only two other fighters for him to be undisputed.
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  And like to be, I don't know if it's to be fair,
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  but Kellerman saying on the Zufa. like broadcast
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  just full -throating opitaya as the head of cruiserweight
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  so it that's like their premier guy right now
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  so yeah which is not saying much it's not saying
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  a lot yeah they got they got so far they got
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  giant rio fuck clap clap clap good bro bro they
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  got they got two guys who fight and what they
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  consider fake weight classes. Exactly. Yeah.
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  Fucking whores. Oh, shit. Speaking of whores,
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  Wilder is going to be fighting Derek Chisora
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  in April. Instead of Usyk, that was previously
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  rumored, it'll now be Wilder versus Chisora.
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  It's looking like the Sauerland Brothers. of
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  Wasserman Boxing will be the promoters of this.
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  And it's going to be in the UK. Shinada thinks
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  Chizora beats Wilder. What do you guys think?
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  I'm just trying to agree with you. He's less
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  washed. Yeah, probably, actually. You're right.
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  I mean, Wilder, he basically lost his eye to
• 28:10
  the tiger. The bronze bomber died. And now we
• 28:14
  have Deontay Wilder. Yeah, we got Ayahuasca.
• 28:19
  Ayahuasca Wilder. We got Shane Mosley before
• 28:24
  he got divorced from his wife. Ayahuasca. But
• 28:33
  yeah, it's looking like Wilder Chisora. I did
• 28:39
  see a fucking rumor. Also, that Andy Ruiz would
• 28:45
  be fighting Usyk instead. Like, at the same time
• 28:49
  leading up to their eventual bout. But then I
• 28:53
  saw Andy Ruiz versus Tyson Fury. And I'm not
• 28:58
  sure what to make of that. Yeah, that just means
• 29:01
  they're making Usyk Fury 3. Jeez, no. Please,
• 29:05
  no. I mean, I would have loved to see Usyk versus...
• 29:11
  fucking Andy Ruiz in, what, 2019 and after. But
• 29:16
  now it's like, so what? He ain't gonna win. You
• 29:22
  know? Same thing with Ruiz and Fury. After the
• 29:26
  fight with Joshua, that would have been a banger.
• 29:30
  You know? That would have been gangbusters, but...
• 29:33
  Fuck it. They know how to lose. They know how
• 29:39
  to lose this shit. There is no chance that you're
• 29:47
  going to catch me cheering for a goddamn Brit
• 29:49
  while there's a red -blooded American in the
• 29:52
  ring. So I will be pulling for my man Deontay.
• 29:56
  But the odds, I think, are favoring Chisora.
• 30:06
  When was the last time Deontay won a fight that
• 30:08
  wasn't fucking Richard Torres? Yeah, that mattered.
• 30:14
  That's a fantastic question. Hellenius. Does
• 30:19
  that matter? Does that count? No, no. Doesn't.
• 30:25
  Last one for that was Fury Fight, Fury Fight,
• 30:30
  King Kong. That might be it. Yeah, but generally,
• 30:38
  when was the last fight that he won that mattered?
• 30:41
  I don't know. Even Andy Ruiz fucking... at least
• 30:45
  went to a draw with Jarrell Miller, which is
• 30:48
  not even that... You know? Derek Chisora, in
• 30:51
  his last fight, at least won against, I think,
• 30:59
  top 20? The way somebody put it in Discord was,
• 31:05
  anyone who's anyone at heavyweight has beaten
• 31:10
  Chisora. And... If you want to set up a fight
• 31:15
  with Usyk, beating Chizora is a good way to make
• 31:18
  it. Maybe two years ago. Maybe two, maybe ten,
• 31:26
  dude. Yeah, ten. Shit. Been a while. Oh, shit.
• 31:36
  Virgil Ortiz is suing Goldenboy Promotions for
• 31:40
  breach of contract. And he's trying to end his
• 31:45
  contract with Golden Boy Promotions. Dang. Fuck.
• 31:51
  Yeah. I don't want to have Josh continue, by
• 31:54
  the way. No, I was just going to say, SMH, he's
• 31:57
  finding another way to duck. No. That's not what
• 32:02
  I meant by continue. That's not what we meant.
• 32:07
  Oh, I know. I mean, honestly. Shaking my head.
• 32:13
  He's just trying to duck. And now we're. If he
• 32:18
  breaks away from Golden Boy, that fight's likelier
• 32:20
  than ever. It is more like than ever. It's very
• 32:22
  exciting. Because Oscar's incentivized to keep
• 32:25
  him around longer without fighting boots. Because
• 32:28
  that's a tough fight. Yeah. Yeah. That's a very
• 32:32
  tough fight. Very, very much a 50 -50 fight.
• 32:34
  But that's a pretty high chance that your fighter
• 32:37
  can lose. And you'll lose. You'll lose any star
• 32:41
  power that you would have had with the Mexican
• 32:44
  community. I mean, if you look at it, Oscar only
• 32:48
  has one guy at this point that is going to stay
• 32:51
  with him, and that's Cerdo, but he's going to
• 32:53
  lose soon. Cerdo is going to lose to Benavidez.
• 32:56
  Exactly. I mean, I'm glad that Virgil is trying
• 33:03
  to get out, but I feel like at the same time,
• 33:05
  it's also kind of... There might be a chance
• 33:09
  that he might just be doing this as a negotiation
• 33:10
  tactic with his own promoter, if that makes any
• 33:13
  sense. Going to court, that's a serious step
• 33:17
  versus, like, I don't know, going to another
• 33:21
  promoter and saying, like, this is what they're
• 33:23
  offering. You fucking suck. Why don't you fix
• 33:26
  our relationship? Well, the way it sounded like
• 33:32
  with Robert, because I saw an interview with
• 33:34
  Robert, Robert Garcia. And he didn't speak very
• 33:38
  much in detail about it, but it didn't sound
• 33:41
  like it was... Not like Oscar did some crazy
• 33:48
  backdoor shit, but more like he's just not working
• 33:52
  out for us. We need something better. You know?
• 33:56
  From what it sounds like, from what I've read
• 33:59
  and all the rumors and everything, the rift is...
• 34:05
  that Virgil's manager, Rick Morigian, I think
• 34:10
  that's how his name is pronounced, is trying
• 34:13
  to negotiate with Matchroom to make the boots
• 34:17
  fight, whereas Oscar is trying to finagle it
• 34:22
  to make it something else. Spence, for some fucking
• 34:29
  reason. I'll excuse a fight with... If you were
• 34:35
  to fight Fandora next, which, as we know now,
• 34:37
  is not happening. Yeah, fight a champion. It's
• 34:42
  understandable. Yeah. But Fandora's taken up.
• 34:47
  Xayah's taken up. And Baru and... They're all
• 34:52
  taken up. Xayah's getting packed up by Baru.
• 34:55
  What do you mean? We'll talk about that right
• 34:58
  now. We'll get there in a moment. He's getting
• 35:02
  slimed. Anything more on the news? That's all
• 35:09
  we got on this one. Virgil, please do not fucking
• 35:13
  go to Zufa. If you do, I will not support your
• 35:17
  ass. I will actively hit against you. And I have
• 35:22
  been your strongest soldier. Along with Isaac.
• 35:26
  Isaac's gonna be alone in that. You think he'll
• 35:29
  stand by if Virgil goes to Zufa? Or Isaac can't
• 35:33
  stand. He'll be sitting. He'll be sitting. But
• 35:40
  yes, he will sit by Virgil. Isaac, you better
• 35:44
  fight back on your pod. You better say some shit
• 35:46
  back. No one listened to that shit. Shit, we're
• 35:52
  in a civil war right now. This is the... Jesus.
• 35:59
  Hey, Isaac, you gotta get him back. No. Virgil,
• 36:05
  you better not go to Zufa. If you're going to
• 36:07
  go to someone, go to PBC or Matchroom. I'll get
• 36:11
  a soundbite next time we record and I'll play
• 36:15
  it back. And to our recaps, we don't have a lot.
• 36:24
  Friday, January 16th. Woof. No limit boxing at
• 36:31
  the Brisbane Entertainment Center. Not a whole
• 36:35
  lot going on here. Liam Wilson gets a stoppage
• 36:41
  in four over Rodex Piala. Who is Rodex? What
• 36:45
  kind of name is Rodex? Those are excellent questions.
• 36:49
  Go to No Limits YouTube channel. Roadhead? That's
• 36:58
  all I thought. Nikita Zoo. No contest with Michael
• 37:02
  Zarafa. There was a cut. I will not say there
• 37:10
  wasn't a cut, because there certainly was. Judging
• 37:15
  by the cut man himself showing the swab, it was
• 37:21
  not a bad cut. It was manageable. The cut man
• 37:27
  clearly seemed capable of taking care of it.
• 37:32
  Zarafa told the ref multiple times that he could
• 37:35
  not see. After in the post -fight interview,
• 37:40
  Zarafa said he wanted to continue. And he doesn't
• 37:47
  know why it was stopped. So there's a very clear
• 37:52
  disconnect there. Zarafa was fucking losing.
• 37:57
  And it looks like he took a way out. This is
• 38:02
  a quick moment to plug Boxing Before Dark on
• 38:07
  this same channel, wherever you're listening.
• 38:10
  The most recent episode includes Jacob. He's
• 38:16
  Australian. He's a boxer himself. So he can give
• 38:19
  you a really good breakdown of this situation.
• 38:25
  It was fucking weird, to say the least. Moving
• 38:31
  on. Goldenboy on DAZN. There were other fights
• 38:38
  on this card, very few of which I cared about.
• 38:41
  Scrappy Ramirez gets squeaks by. Majority decision.
• 38:48
  Congrats, I guess. This was like a Goldenboy
• 38:53
  prospect dog and pony show. It wasn't great.
• 39:04
  Ruslan Abdullayev stops Eduardo Abreu in five.
• 39:09
  So congrats to you. He did look actually, he
• 39:12
  actually looked pretty good. And he's only in
• 39:14
  this, that was his fourth pro fight. So. And
• 39:21
  Raul Correal, he takes late replacement Jordan
• 39:26
  Panthen. And that goes to a UD. Jordan, for being
• 39:33
  a late replacement, he was actually pretty damn
• 39:37
  competitive. He didn't come to lay down. He definitely
• 39:42
  tried to make the best of the opportunity that
• 39:47
  he had. So congrats on not getting made into
• 39:54
  a highlight reel. And, yeah, being tough. He
• 40:01
  gave it his all. And on an otherwise not really
• 40:07
  promoted well card. Yeah. I think there wasn't
• 40:12
  a weigh -in, right? It wasn't like a televised
• 40:15
  weigh -in. No. Not that I recall. I think they
• 40:19
  gave Panthen, like, leeway on his weight because
• 40:24
  he was fighting down the bill. At a higher weight
• 40:27
  class. And so they gave him... It was a catch
• 40:32
  weight, pretty much. I gotta respect Panther
• 40:37
  for stepping up. Saving a card. And he put up
• 40:41
  a damn good fight. Like we said, he made the
• 40:44
  most of an opportunity. I gotta give him all
• 40:48
  my flowers for that. He certainly lasted longer
• 40:54
  than I would have. In a 10 -round fight with
• 40:57
  Kuriel. Anything more for the recaps? No. Nope.
• 41:08
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• 44:02
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• 44:06
  going to be ranting very, very soon. Actually,
• 44:09
  I'm pretty content with this weekend. There's
• 44:12
  actually only one guy I really could say I want
• 44:18
  gone, and it's not going to be the one you think.
• 44:22
  Okay, I have my guesses, and I'll hold it until
• 44:26
  we get to it. All right, so starting off, this
• 44:30
  is the most beautiful, succulent, rich -tasting
• 44:36
  appetizer that you could ever ask for. For a
• 44:39
  big boxing weekend. Friday January 30th. Pro
• 44:43
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• 44:49
  you have the opportunity. To go. The live casino
• 44:53
  and hotel. In Hanover Maryland. If you can go.
• 44:57
  Fucking do go. Pro Box is like the. It's like
• 45:03
  the lifeblood. Of this fucking sport man. Moving
• 45:09
  up the bill, there are a lot of names that you're
• 45:13
  not going to recognize that doesn't really matter.
• 45:16
  Probox makes even matched events. They put guys
• 45:23
  in fights where either guy is equally liable
• 45:28
  to lose. If you come into a Probox event with
• 45:33
  an undefeated record, you better be ready to
• 45:36
  risk it. Yeah, you're not going to get babied.
• 45:41
  In the co -main event, Sulaiman Sagawa versus
• 45:45
  Renee Palacios. Sulaiman Sagawa, if you know,
• 45:52
  you know. And you know you're getting a good
• 45:54
  fight with Sagawa in it. And headlining, Brian
• 46:05
  Flores versus Starling Castillo. Hold on. Starling
• 46:11
  Castillo has a very interesting name. Sparkinson
• 46:14
  Starling Wilson Almonte Castillo is his full
• 46:21
  name. That's just fantastic. But yeah, that's
• 46:30
  ProBox. It's going to be a good time. Let's move
• 46:35
  to Saturday, January 31st. These fights will
• 46:41
  not be listed in order chronologically. They're
• 46:45
  just going to be listed in order of importance.
• 46:48
  So starting us off, primetime boxing on DAZN
• 46:53
  in Kolding, Denmark. Not a whole lot going on
• 46:59
  in this card. In the co -main, Tina Torslund.
• 47:04
  Versus Lila Furtado. Interim WBC featherweight
• 47:07
  title. That's a women's fight. Dina is not bad.
• 47:14
  If you want to give women's fights a chance.
• 47:17
  That's not a bad one to do it. In the main. Jacob
• 47:23
  Bank versus William Skull. That same William
• 47:29
  Skull. So that's happening. Is this... This is
• 47:37
  my guess for Josh's... William Scull? No, actually.
• 47:45
  Really? Yes, it is. It's in the top rank card.
• 47:49
  Oh, okay. Never mind then. Oh, I know which one
• 47:52
  it is. I was going to say, I got no... William
• 47:55
  Scull is like... He's boring, but also like...
• 47:59
  He's a deeply negative fighter, but also... You
• 48:03
  know, it's not like... he's completely unbeatable
• 48:09
  and unhittable. Like, I'm sure a good enough
• 48:13
  operator at 168 who isn't faded can totally at
• 48:19
  least touch him up and make him fight. Well,
• 48:25
  that's my pick, bust. Canceled. Adam Azeem versus
• 48:31
  Gustavo Lemos. Both guys pulled out of this one,
• 48:34
  right? Lemos pulled out first. The replacement,
• 48:38
  there was a replacement, then Azeem pulled out.
• 48:43
  Why did Azeem pull out? He was injured as well.
• 48:48
  Jesus Christ. Yeah, I was looking forward to
• 48:51
  this. Azeem versus Lemos. Azeem is stepping up
• 48:56
  his competition. But what are you going to do?
• 49:03
  Yeah, fuck it. Matchroom at the Newcastle Arena.
• 49:09
  Now, there's other stuff on the bill. I'm sure
• 49:14
  they're wonderful fights. My two picks here,
• 49:20
  Josh Padley versus Jawad Belmedi. I practiced
• 49:27
  that one on Boxing Before Dark. Jawad. That's
• 49:32
  a tough one. Four fucking vowels in a row, dude.
• 49:35
  What the fuck is this? So yeah, Josh Padley,
• 49:40
  the people's electrician, and Makram Murtazaliev
• 49:46
  versus Josh Kelly for the IBF Super Welterweight
• 49:51
  title. Comrade Padley. Yeah. I mean, I can't...
• 50:02
  I was telling Leo before this. I literally cannot
• 50:04
  make a case for the Murtazilov fight versus Kelly
• 50:08
  other than Murtazilov destruction over Kelly.
• 50:12
  I'm happy with him getting back in the ring and
• 50:15
  I'm extra happy that he's going to just like
• 50:21
  eviscerate Josh Kelly. One thing I will say and
• 50:25
  I was... I'm gonna give Kelly... I'm going to
• 50:31
  try to defend Kelly, okay? And it's not even
• 50:34
  going to be based even off his skill or anything
• 50:37
  that he can do, but a fate itself. I got a weird
• 50:41
  feeling that Britain's going to become filled
• 50:43
  with champions this year after that win from
• 50:47
  Don Smith. Oh, my God. It is the end times. Hold
• 50:53
  up, hold up, hold up, hold up. If Britain's on
• 50:57
  the upswing and Kelly wins, It might just fucking...
• 51:01
  It might be fate. It might just be fate. Because
• 51:05
  you got Bobby Wardley becoming a champ. You got
• 51:09
  Donald Smith. It might be fate that you have
• 51:12
  a British champion in this division. Right, guys?
• 51:15
  Come on. Anybody? Nobody? Listen, man. Anything
• 51:23
  to get boots are free. A free title, I guess.
• 51:29
  Hey. Let's go Murda Zaylov, though, because he's
• 51:33
  going to win. Yeah. Say anything to give Boots
• 51:36
  a free title, man. I got you. I want to pose
• 51:41
  a conspiracy theory here. Oh, shit. With what
• 51:45
  Saul just said about 2026 being the year of British
• 51:51
  champions. Now, if we think about the American
• 51:55
  legislation that we just talked about. What if
• 52:00
  the sanctioning bodies funnel their belts into
• 52:05
  other countries? Oh, shit. That's kind of a...
• 52:09
  That's fucking crazy, but that... Hey. That's
• 52:14
  got some merit, right? It's got some amount of
• 52:19
  merit. You put money in the right pockets, and
• 52:21
  maybe Josh Kelly wins. Oh, well, Mertazaliev
• 52:27
  is Russian, so never mind. This is not the best
• 52:30
  example, but... But he's with an American promoter.
• 52:35
  True. So, there's that. But just food for thought.
• 52:44
  Maybe. Maybe not. I didn't even think about that
• 52:47
  until now. That's crazy. Could be. Anything more
• 52:52
  for Matchroom? Moving on to top rank on... Yeah,
• 53:05
  this could be on... Brazzers? Yeah, top rank
• 53:10
  on Brazzers. That's exactly what is fucking happening
• 53:13
  right now. They would probably get more fucking
• 53:15
  viewership on Brazzers, too. This is on Tubi,
• 53:19
  Pluto TV, Fubo, fucking Roku, Vizio, wherever
• 53:24
  you can get the channel. Top Rank Classics. You
• 53:30
  will find this fight. Moving up the bill, I see
• 53:38
  Juanmita Lopez is in a fight with Connor Goad.
• 53:46
  It's going to be a good fight. Juanmita is a
• 53:48
  very nice prospect. For being one of the small
• 53:52
  guys, he's really explosive. It's pretty fucking
• 53:55
  cool. Let's see. Giovanni Santillan is moving
• 54:00
  up to super welterweight. He's fighting Courtney
• 54:04
  Pennington. Holy shit. 17, 11, and 3. A little
• 54:11
  bit scraping the bottom of the barrel for that
• 54:12
  guy. So, yeah. That is certainly a fight. In
• 54:19
  the co -main, Rohan Polanco versus Christian
• 54:22
  Gomez. Polanco is a solid prospect at welterweight.
• 54:32
  Christian Gomez looks like a durable type of
• 54:35
  guy that they pulled out. I'm expecting Polanco
• 54:40
  to get this done early. I'm not expecting much
• 54:45
  from Gomez here. You might see a Polanco decision.
• 54:52
  Possible, yeah. He hasn't been looking too, too
• 54:56
  hot recently. In the main, Xander Zayas, the
• 55:01
  WBO super welterweight champion versus WBA champ
• 55:08
  Abbas Baru. Here's the one. I want Zayas gone,
• 55:14
  dude. This guy is going to get the belt and hold
• 55:20
  them hostage because of the depth of how deep
• 55:23
  the division is. And that is... I think I disagree
• 55:30
  with you. I want Zayas to lose. But I don't think
• 55:36
  he is. I'm saying I want him gone. I'm just upset
• 55:41
  that he's going to hold the belts hostage. It's
• 55:45
  going to be rough. Have a 2B fighter. 2B unified
• 55:50
  champion. 2B fight? Yeah, this guy's too be fighting.
• 55:56
  I mean, hey, honestly, if top rank can't get
• 55:59
  a fucking deal going, they might put him in a
• 56:03
  hard fight. Or they'll send him somewhere else.
• 56:07
  They might have him unified. If they can't get
• 56:09
  a deal, then they're going to have to send him
• 56:12
  off to fight like Fundora or Murtazaliev. This
• 56:19
  is true. Or fight Virgil, maybe, or Boots. Right.
• 56:22
  Yeah, those are good payouts. Exactly. I don't
• 56:27
  know. It would be hard for them. You know, I
• 56:28
  feel like they would want to keep the Puerto
• 56:30
  Rican fan base with them, whatever they got left.
• 56:33
  He would be their single lifeboat, Xander Zayas.
• 56:39
  Like, get on the lifeboat while you can, because
• 56:42
  the top -ranked ship is fucking sinking. Oh,
• 56:45
  yeah. I mean, I generally think Zayas is going
• 56:49
  to beat Abbas Barrow. I know that. In the last
• 56:53
  fight, he looked like a damn good dog. Yo, and
• 56:59
  that's Tejas, though. Come on. Exactly. Look,
• 57:05
  Abos fought really well last time. He showed
• 57:09
  heart, and he's aggressive to an extent. I think
• 57:14
  it's going to be a very good fight between the
• 57:16
  two. But I just think Zayas has more... skills
• 57:22
  to his game where he's only like 22 23 years
• 57:24
  old and he's still got a lot more to learn whereas
• 57:27
  abos browse but 30 31 he's already hit peak so
• 57:31
  we don't we don't have we've already seen the
• 57:34
  best of abos brow but we haven't seen the best
• 57:35
  of zayas yet so i think the best is going to
• 57:38
  come out of him in this fight because i don't
• 57:41
  think he's taking this shit lightly i gotta give
• 57:44
  him that i generally don't think that zander
• 57:46
  zander is taking this shit with a grain of salt.
• 57:50
  He's taking it with a whole tablespoon. You know?
• 57:54
  So, as much as I don't want Zayas to hold the
• 57:56
  belt hostage, I think he's going to win the fight
• 57:59
  and become unified. At 154. The first unified
• 58:05
  champion in what? Four years? Since Charlo? Since
• 58:09
  Charlo, yeah. Or not Charlo, Jamal. So, it'll
• 58:17
  be probably the... He would probably be the youngest
• 58:19
  unified champion in the sport as well right now,
• 58:21
  which is a feat in and of itself. Hell, they
• 58:26
  might just try to push him on the damn pound
• 58:28
  for pound if they wanted to. That's how Devin
• 58:32
  Haney got up there. That would be a mistake.
• 58:37
  Yes, that is likely what Top Rank and their PR
• 58:43
  machine would try to do. Like that, no. We'll
• 58:49
  have to see how he looks. We'll have to see how
• 58:51
  he looks in this before we start talking about
• 58:54
  Zaius, even as a unified champion. We'll see
• 58:58
  if that's pound for pound worthy. Well, I mean,
• 59:03
  honestly, if he's unified champion, he's got
• 59:06
  a pretty decent case. He has a good claim. You're
• 59:09
  right. Yeah. To be unified, you have a decent
• 59:13
  case. I mean, we'll never know. Until after Saturday,
• 59:18
  of course. I would like to say, on behalf of
• 59:23
  Baru, his one defeat, if you watch that fight
• 59:29
  with Jack Colquet, Jack Colquet did not win.
• 59:37
  That's really all. For the sake of the memes,
• 59:44
  Abbas Baru winning would really fucking make
• 59:48
  me giggle. But I think you're right. I think
• 59:54
  Zayas is... He's adequately preparing. And I
• 1:00:01
  think he has the tools to make this fight work
• 1:00:04
  for him. Still riding for Baru. Still riding
• 1:00:12
  for him. That'll be a... That'll be a fun -ass
• 1:00:17
  fight. That'll be a fun -ass fight, I'll tell
• 1:00:20
  you that. You never know. He could be Zayas.
• 1:00:23
  He could become Unified Champion and shit. Any
• 1:00:26
  promotional company is going to want to fucking
• 1:00:27
  eat his ass out, you know? Yeah. Boots is going
• 1:00:32
  to jump on that if Virgil can't get made. Yeah.
• 1:00:36
  And it's going to be with two belts that Virgil's
• 1:00:39
  got no chance of getting. And Virgil will never
• 1:00:42
  touch a world title. Well, you got to shut the
• 1:00:45
  fuck up on that one. If Boots gets those titles,
• 1:00:48
  Boots is going to be the best. Death, taxes,
• 1:00:51
  Embiid never making a conference finals, and
• 1:00:55
  Virgil never getting a world title. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:00:58
  yeah. Who won this weekend? Who won this weekend?
• 1:01:02
  We'll talk about it next week, but who won this
• 1:01:04
  weekend? We'll talk about it next week. All right.
• 1:01:09
  I really hope that this does not conflict with
• 1:01:14
  Ring 6. This is a DAZN pay -per -view being held
• 1:01:20
  at Madison Square Garden. Top to bottom, this
• 1:01:24
  is a pretty solid card. From the bottom, we have
• 1:01:29
  Jarrell Miller versus Kingsley Ibe. That is certainly
• 1:01:36
  a fight. He's got a pretty cool name. Kingsley.
• 1:01:42
  I think he goes by Black Lion. Black Lion. Damn.
• 1:01:49
  I hope the Black Lion beats the Black Giant.
• 1:01:55
  Bro, the Giant? Ziyad Almayouf is fighting Kevin
• 1:02:03
  Castillo. Almayouf is a Saudi I don't think he
• 1:02:09
  himself is Saudi, but he's an insert from the
• 1:02:14
  Saudis. He's not bad, but he's still a plant.
• 1:02:23
  Yeah. The vacant WBC featherweight title, Bruce
• 1:02:30
  Carrington versus Carlos Castro. Carlos Castro,
• 1:02:37
  I think, is number two or three in the WBC rankings
• 1:02:43
  for the division. I would, as much as my heart
• 1:02:48
  is with Carlos Castro, he's a local boy for me.
• 1:02:52
  I don't think this is happening, buddy. Nope.
• 1:02:59
  I love to clown on Shushu. especially for that
• 1:03:05
  stupid -ass name. But, yeah, exactly. Moving
• 1:03:14
  up, Keyshawn Davis versus Jermaine Ortiz. Not
• 1:03:20
  a bad fight for Keyshawn to be kicking off his
• 1:03:22
  140 run. I'm hopeful Ortiz will give as much
• 1:03:30
  trouble as he gave to fucking Teofimo. And Lomachenko.
• 1:03:39
  Well. I'm going to tell you this. It's going
• 1:03:42
  to be a hard fight for Keyshawn. Yeah. Jermaine
• 1:03:46
  does not. It's not an easy night to work for
• 1:03:49
  people. He gave Lomachenko a hard fight. And
• 1:03:52
  he gave Teofimo a hard fight. Where a lot of
• 1:03:55
  people thought Teofimo lost. You know. So. If
• 1:04:00
  Keyshawn can knock out Jermaine Ortiz. That will
• 1:04:03
  send a message. He knocked out a guy that some
• 1:04:09
  of the other names in the facility at the time,
• 1:04:15
  he was considered one of the greatest fighters
• 1:04:17
  of that era. If he can knock out Jermaine Ortiz,
• 1:04:21
  that's going to be something that people are
• 1:04:25
  going to talk about. That's all I got to say.
• 1:04:27
  I hope he wins. Considering what's been happening
• 1:04:30
  with Keyshawn, I don't know. It's unsure. I'm
• 1:04:33
  unsure what's going to happen considering he's
• 1:04:34
  going up weight class, hasn't fought since last
• 1:04:37
  year. He's been a little inactive. He's been
• 1:04:41
  dealing with some mental mishaps. But I got to
• 1:04:49
  say that I hope Keyshawn wins. Do you think DB3
• 1:04:55
  will try to jump Jermaine as well? If Keyshawn
• 1:05:02
  loses. Oh, Jesus. I still can't believe you miss
• 1:05:09
  weight under BOMAC, dude. That's, like, that's
• 1:05:14
  the part of Keyshawn's career that, like, really
• 1:05:16
  gets me. Like, you train with, like, BOMAC where,
• 1:05:20
  like, he ate the fridge in its entirety. You
• 1:05:24
  have to deliberately try to miss weight with
• 1:05:27
  this man in your camp. But what do I know? Moving
• 1:05:36
  up, Carlos Adamas versus Ammo Williams. Adamas
• 1:05:42
  is the WBC middleweight champ. And big ups to
• 1:05:50
  Eddie Heard. Got his guy into a title fight,
• 1:05:54
  even though he doesn't fucking deserve it. I
• 1:05:59
  still don't mind the matchup. It's not bad. It's
• 1:06:04
  not terrible. Middleweight is pretty desolate,
• 1:06:07
  especially now that Janet Beck is... He's both
• 1:06:14
  signed with top rank and in the limbo of his
• 1:06:17
  failed drug test. It's not the worst fight in
• 1:06:26
  the world to make at 160. And in the main, WBO
• 1:06:33
  super lightweight champ, Teofimo Lopez takes
• 1:06:37
  on Shakur Stevenson. Official, official predictions.
• 1:06:43
  What do you guys got? I have Shakur in like a
• 1:06:47
  10 -2 performance. Honestly. Like, Teofimo has
• 1:06:54
  been, like, maybe he shows up, but... He has,
• 1:06:59
  at this point, in recent memory, he's shown up,
• 1:07:01
  like, once, because I don't really count Barbosa.
• 1:07:07
  Do you really count Josh Taylor, too? Yeah, because
• 1:07:10
  he showed up dialed in. Like, that was very clearly
• 1:07:12
  Teofimo, like, making the full use of his athleticism,
• 1:07:18
  but... We'll see. It's been six years since he
• 1:07:25
  beat Lomachenko. Yeah, it's been almost six years
• 1:07:28
  since he beat Lomachenko. And that was the last
• 1:07:31
  time he looked truly elite, whereas Shakur, say
• 1:07:35
  what you will, very consistent, very dialed in,
• 1:07:39
  and is definitely the type of guy to be able
• 1:07:44
  to embarrass Teofimo, considering Sandor dropped
• 1:07:47
  him twice. Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. The Teofimo
• 1:07:56
  that we get on fight night is anyone's guess.
• 1:08:01
  He has turned in fantastic performances, followed
• 1:08:06
  by shitty performances, followed by good, followed
• 1:08:11
  by bad, followed by bad. It's a fucking crapshoot
• 1:08:15
  with Teofimo. I do think genuinely. That Shakur,
• 1:08:23
  the prospect of fighting Shakur, is going to
• 1:08:26
  bring out the best of Teofimo? I still don't
• 1:08:31
  think it's going to be enough. Shakur, Josh,
• 1:08:35
  as you said, he turns it in perfectly every time.
• 1:08:42
  And I don't see Teofimo presenting too many issues.
• 1:08:49
  that Shakur hasn't had to deal with at this point.
• 1:08:54
  I got to tell you something about this fight.
• 1:08:58
  Honestly, I agree with both of you guys. I think
• 1:09:00
  that Shakur is going to win. I don't think it's
• 1:09:04
  going to be 10 -2. I feel like it's going to
• 1:09:06
  be closer to like a 7 -5. Yeah, also like an
• 1:09:09
  8 -4 type of... Yeah. Okay, okay. But, you know,
• 1:09:14
  honestly, I agree with Leo that... I generally
• 1:09:19
  think that TfM is going to give it his all because
• 1:09:20
  if he loses, what the fuck is he going to do?
• 1:09:24
  That's true. I don't know. He's a champion, but...
• 1:09:29
  That's not all he has. That's true. I mean, yeah.
• 1:09:34
  Without that, what does he have? Because he doesn't
• 1:09:37
  have that Ryan or Devin Haney fight anymore.
• 1:09:39
  Who's going to want to see him? He can't go up.
• 1:09:43
  He's very undersized. He might be able to land
• 1:09:46
  it, but I doubt it. If he wins the Shakur fight,
• 1:09:50
  oh my god, he's elite. I would consider him back
• 1:09:55
  in the top 10 pound for pound, honestly. It depends
• 1:09:59
  on how he wins it because I will say there's
• 1:10:03
  also question marks on Shakur's own capabilities
• 1:10:06
  just on regards to strength of resume. Yes, absolutely.
• 1:10:12
  Which is a major factor. So, like, I think Shakur
• 1:10:18
  from the eye test has more than enough to do
• 1:10:20
  it. But there is a chance that, like, this is
• 1:10:25
  a genuine case where Shakur could just be exposed.
• 1:10:30
  But how would he get exposed is my question.
• 1:10:32
  The thing is that he's great. He's a fantastic
• 1:10:35
  fighter at range. He's fantastic in the pocket.
• 1:10:40
  The only place that I think Teal can get him
• 1:10:42
  at is mid -range. And a mid -range... I feel
• 1:10:49
  like that's the only spot that Shakur, not lacks
• 1:10:51
  him, but is susceptible to getting hit in. You
• 1:10:56
  know? But that's not how it's going to go. I
• 1:10:59
  generally feel like if Tio's going to fight,
• 1:11:01
  he's going to fight with power. He's going to
• 1:11:03
  have to fight to knock him out. Where I understand
• 1:11:07
  that Tio at 140, the 140 Tio against 140 guys,
• 1:11:10
  he's kind of underpowered. He's got mediocre.
• 1:11:15
  He's got mediocre SWAT. But Shakur is a smaller
• 1:11:19
  guy. He's coming up from smaller weight classes.
• 1:11:22
  He fought Oscar Valdez at 130. You know? I mean,
• 1:11:26
  it's going to be a... It might be a hard fight
• 1:11:31
  for Shakur, mainly based on the power. And I
• 1:11:33
  was telling Leo about this before the pod. We've
• 1:11:36
  seen how Shakur fights when there's a guy with
• 1:11:38
  power. Edwin De Los Santos was a disgusting fight.
• 1:11:43
  atrocious because Shakur didn't want to throw
• 1:11:45
  because he didn't want to throw down with someone's
• 1:11:46
  power. So if Teo has power, I doubt Shakur's
• 1:11:50
  going to want to be close to mid -range with
• 1:11:53
  him. One thing's for sure is you're not going
• 1:11:56
  to see a Sabeda -type performance. That's for
• 1:11:59
  sure. I think it might be closer to Edwin De
• 1:12:04
  Los Santos. But I feel like Teo's elite enough
• 1:12:08
  to where he can... he can be able to secure some
• 1:12:14
  rounds off of activity. However, another thing
• 1:12:18
  too with Teo is that, and this goes back to the
• 1:12:21
  Jermaine Ortiz fight. A lot of people thought
• 1:12:24
  he lost that fight because Jermaine Ortiz outboxed
• 1:12:26
  him. I also think Jermaine Ortiz outboxed him,
• 1:12:29
  but Jermaine Ortiz is not even close to the fighter
• 1:12:33
  that Shakur is. Shakur can outbox anybody, in
• 1:12:39
  my opinion. And if Lopez was getting outboxed
• 1:12:46
  by Jermaine Ortiz, I think it's going to be a
• 1:12:49
  rough night for him in the ring with Shakur.
• 1:12:53
  But we'll see. Because, again, was Jermaine Ortiz's
• 1:12:57
  fight best to him? Not really. So, we'll see.
• 1:13:04
  It's a toss -up, honestly. I can't decide. It
• 1:13:09
  comes down to, we had this problem a few years
• 1:13:12
  ago. We had this problem with Adrian Broner,
• 1:13:15
  where what version of Broner is going to show
• 1:13:19
  up in the ring? Because we've seen Broner look
• 1:13:23
  like an elite, elite talent. And we've seen him
• 1:13:28
  show up like a fucking bag of shit. The irony
• 1:13:33
  here is that the extremes are so much more. For
• 1:13:38
  Teofimo, I feel like Broner, his lows were at
• 1:13:46
  least somewhat consistent, but his highs definitely
• 1:13:49
  aren't as high as Teofimo can go. It's so much
• 1:13:52
  more extreme with how Teofimo can look. Bipolar
• 1:13:58
  is a hell of a drug. Yeah, at least Broner, stylistically,
• 1:14:04
  there was a very... how do you put it, like,
• 1:14:09
  there was a sort of congruency stylistically.
• 1:14:11
  It really just depended on how he'd engage with
• 1:14:16
  the opponent, but within the confines of the
• 1:14:18
  same style. Whereas, oh my god, Teofimo can really
• 1:14:26
  just look so, like, he can look like he learned
• 1:14:30
  how to walk yesterday. It's that, That uncertainty
• 1:14:40
  is what makes me pick against Teofimo. He is,
• 1:14:44
  when he's great, when he's good, when he's dialed
• 1:14:47
  in, when he shows up, he's like an athletic fucking
• 1:14:52
  freak. But I don't know if that's what we're
• 1:14:58
  going to see on Saturday. I don't know if that's
• 1:15:02
  what it's going to be. So, I don't know. I can't
• 1:15:07
  pick him for that reason. Imagine Shakur gets
• 1:15:12
  knocked out. Oh, my God. It all depends on how.
• 1:15:17
  Like, if Shakur just looks incompetent and gets
• 1:15:20
  knocked out, yeah, that's going to be him getting
• 1:15:23
  exposed. If it's a tight fight down the stretch,
• 1:15:26
  the Teofimo actually looks good in and edges
• 1:15:28
  out, okay, it's two elite guys. Imagine if he
• 1:15:33
  gets knocked down. That's how Tank's going to
• 1:15:34
  get caught because he's going to come out of
• 1:15:35
  hiding to post on Twitter to shit on Shakur.
• 1:15:38
  And that's when I'm going to catch that. They're
• 1:15:40
  going to send IceJai, Isopataya to go capture
• 1:15:44
  Tank. And then boom. You have Tank captured.
• 1:15:48
  Shakur loses. Racist media will be so happy.
• 1:15:52
  Racism is back. Crazy. Anything more for ring
• 1:15:58
  six? This is how woke dies in boxing. Teofimo
• 1:16:02
  wins. That's another tip. Teofimo wins. Oh, my
• 1:16:04
  God. Where the liquor at? Woke is dead, guys.
• 1:16:07
  Yeah, that's crazy. I don't want... I want Shakur
• 1:16:10
  to win just for that fucking video. I want Teofimo
• 1:16:16
  to get dominated by a black man. Just for the
• 1:16:25
  comments that two people said, he deserves that
• 1:16:27
  shit. Oh, yeah. Send Shakur some bananas now,
• 1:16:34
  bitch. Yeah. Fucking racist ass. Anything more
• 1:16:41
  for Ring 6? Fuck you, Hitchens. You didn't show
• 1:16:44
  up to fight Keyshawn. I'm just kidding. I all
• 1:16:47
  respect you, Hitchens. Let's round out the weekend
• 1:16:51
  with... Zufa on Paramount+. Why are we even talking
• 1:16:59
  about it with how much we fucking hate it? At
• 1:17:04
  the Meta Apex in Las Vegas, there are actually
• 1:17:09
  some decent fights on here. Starting from the
• 1:17:14
  bottom, moving up, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:17:17
  Jaleel Hackett, that's a name I recognize, fighting
• 1:17:21
  Roberto Cruz. Hot Rod Kalachik is fighting Oleksandr
• 1:17:30
  Vostik. Not terrible. Sergey Bohachuk is facing
• 1:17:43
  Radza Butaev. Fun. If this is playing out...
• 1:17:53
  How Zufa says. Their stuff is playing out. This
• 1:17:59
  fight will be at middleweight. But. As we've
• 1:18:03
  already seen. Zufa does not adhere. To their
• 1:18:07
  own policies. I was going to say. This is two
• 1:18:09
  154 guys. What the fuck. If the trend continues.
• 1:18:16
  Then this should be at 154. Butaev. Was a. like
• 1:18:23
  a fringe uh secondary title holder at 147 he
• 1:18:30
  lost to stanley stanley onus i was like is it
• 1:18:34
  cody crowley or stanley onus yeah yeah it was
• 1:18:39
  stanley onus it was a it was a good fight and
• 1:18:42
  it was a competitive fight so not the worst loss
• 1:18:46
  you might say uh no not bad at all but Not bad
• 1:18:53
  for him to be moving up. The thing is that he's
• 1:18:55
  been inactive for, I think he's had one fight
• 1:18:58
  in the last three years. So I'm expecting him
• 1:19:02
  to get clobbered. Ukraine, clobbering Russia.
• 1:19:08
  I'm here for it. And in what I feel is a personal
• 1:19:17
  betrayal, Rayo Valenzuela. He's facing Diego
• 1:19:21
  Torres. Someone said... Go on. What a weird career
• 1:19:30
  from Ryo for the record. Like, it's the most...
• 1:19:34
  Like, it's probably the, like, best 14 -3 record
• 1:19:38
  I've seen in my life. For what it is. Yeah. Lost
• 1:19:46
  three times, became a champion. Edwin De Los
• 1:19:49
  Santos, GAR, and who's his third? Chris Colbert
• 1:19:55
  robbery. The robbery with Chris Colbert. But
• 1:19:58
  wait, that one doesn't count. The eradication
• 1:20:03
  of Chris Colbert the next time around was more
• 1:20:09
  than enough. Somebody in chat said, GAR bitched
• 1:20:20
  Valenzuela so hard he left PBC to Zufa. Yeah,
• 1:20:26
  probably. It was a pretty rough defeat. Still,
• 1:20:34
  going to Zufa, dude. Come on. What do you mean,
• 1:20:43
  bro? It's the best fighting the best. Yeah. Well,
• 1:20:47
  yeah, Diego Torres, he's really fucking doing
• 1:20:50
  it for me. Well, I got to give respect to Diego
• 1:20:54
  Torres. He can do what GAR couldn't. And make
• 1:21:02
  the same as an ICE agent doing it. He's getting
• 1:21:06
  $200 a round, $50K in insurance. You guys ever
• 1:21:12
  see that clip of that Ron Perlman interview where
• 1:21:15
  he's like, they gave me $40 and a sandwich to
• 1:21:18
  do the monologue for Fallout. He's making more
• 1:21:25
  than most of these Zufa fighters make. Doing
• 1:21:28
  that monologue in the 90s. As I understand it,
• 1:21:36
  he elected for that. He asked for less. He didn't
• 1:21:41
  care about the project when they called him for
• 1:21:44
  the second one. He was like, there's a second
• 1:21:45
  one? Yeah, I thought this was like a no -name
• 1:21:49
  dud. Yeah, he was just doing a computer game
• 1:21:52
  for the kids. Valenzuela's not doing a computer
• 1:21:58
  game for the kids. He's selling out. He's selling
• 1:22:02
  out. There's not even a sandwich included either.
• 1:22:06
  God, no. He has to pay for craft services. But
• 1:22:11
  yeah, that's Zufa. That'll be on Sunday, February
• 1:22:20
  1st. That is not bad hangover boxing. I don't
• 1:22:30
  have to actually dial in and pay attention. Because
• 1:22:35
  these dudes are not... Leaving this ecosystem.
• 1:22:39
  Anytime soon. So they're not going to be relevant.
• 1:22:43
  Anytime soon. But there you go. What name are
• 1:22:50
  we going to give this week? Last year we had
• 1:22:52
  Ape Day. Remember? This year what are we going
• 1:22:57
  to call it? No I can't say that. I was going
• 1:23:00
  to add an R. Okay yeah. I can't say that though.
• 1:23:06
  That's going to lose out on our remaining sponsors.
• 1:23:10
  Commemorative YSL Poverty Day. Janet. Janet Beck.
• 1:23:17
  Janet. Order Up Day. Janney. Janney. Janney Tatum.
• 1:23:24
  Hey, you can't say that when we're both Jannies,
• 1:23:27
  though, Leo. Yeah. Janet Beck Day. Day Jens?
• 1:23:41
  31 flavors? Let's just do Ape Day 2. We can just
• 1:23:46
  do Ape Day 2. Yeah, Ape Day. This is another
• 1:23:50
  Ape Day. Yeah, another Ape Day. And this time
• 1:23:54
  it's actually going to be with great fucking
• 1:23:55
  fights. Last time was also great fights, but
• 1:23:58
  this is even greater. Watch them all be terrible.
• 1:24:00
  Just because we gave them the label Ape Day.
• 1:24:03
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  I'm watching boxing on Ape Day. You're going
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  to be single by next podcast. Shit. Don't use
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  ramen sponsor. Go fuck yourself. Oh, my God.
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  You're right, bro. No ramen sponsor. The Zufa.
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  You're fucked, buddy. Yeah. That's it. Nah, but
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  I'm going to call her D. Hey, D. I'm on here.
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  I don't want to call you out. Hey, guys. Say
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  hi to D. Put some respect in her name. Hello,
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  D. Hello, D. Hello, Comrade D. Please break up
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  with the rest of us. Yeah, bro. Especially, like,
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  if we were watching Zufa, you can do better.
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  At least pro -box. Oh, no. I'm not having to
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  watch Zufa. Fuck that. I'm having to watch Kirk.
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  I actually got a quote here that is, I think,
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  the fuck kind of name that is. You can't expect
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  in the machine. I feel that applies really well
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  get those sweet, sweet knockouts. Or those, like,
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  12 -0 decisions. If you don't put the time in.
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  2.