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The Political Matrix News: Behind the Curtain of Power · Palafox Media Network

• Scott Miller: Hey folks and welcome to the political matrix news. I'm Scott Miller and this is my partner, Greg Fink. political consultants who've been in the business for 30 years from the backstage. We've watched all of these guys rise. I watching Marco Rubio when he was, you know, making the case for why he should be speaker of the Florida house. Greg Fink: Exactly. It's a little guy then. Scott Miller: Just, you know, all of his little travails. In fact, he served with my cousin in the house. Yeah. Well, no, he did become speaker of the house, but I mean, yeah. But, you know, I mean, like I said, he had to make his case before he became speaker, he had to make his case for it. And now his, I mean, he's had his ups and downs. Greg Fink: Right? Amy Kingsbringer the house actually. Yeah, you did, Scott Miller: But I'll say that he has certainly done well for himself. And ⁓ proud of what he's done. He certainly seems like one of the most rational politicians in frankly. Greg Fink: ⁓ yeah. He's doing a stellar job as Secretary of State. He's doing a great job at handling the affairs of foreign policies of America in such a very, very good manner. Scott Miller: Well, you know, honestly, where I think he excels the most is when he shows up in congressional hearings. Because, uh, because I mean, these guys can say it will say all the craziest things in the world to him. Um, Oh God, who is the Congress or the Senator that went down to, uh, down to Ecuador and had, you know, had cocktails without a, a brego Garcia dude. You know, I mean, so, so the clip I'm watching, I've been watching today. Greg Fink: ⁓ yeah, definitely. Right? Scott Miller: Collins worth or something like that or Collins or I forget the guy's name. He's, he's some mediocre, you know, new England, know, congressman or Senator or whatever, but his, his to was he was just sitting there ⁓ wearing him out wait, no, I take it back. That wasn't Rubio. Nevermind. I'm mixing up Cash Patel's conversation with him. The Cash Patel conversation was funny because he was sitting there basically calling him a drunk and, and is it true that you've you know, that people can't, you know, you've been missing work because you've been drinking too much and all these things. And he says, no, it's not true. Is it true that you're, that you regularly have cocktails with terrorists and gang bangers? Greg Fink: Yeah, well, we do have a bunch of smart alecks here in our cabinet between Cash Fatale and Marco Rubio. And of them are animals the game. mean, ⁓ Rubio been in Congress and in the hearings and way he handles himself in hearings, just all way from the way he as he rose to speakership in the Florida House and as a ⁓ after that. And so I mean, understands the rhetoric and he Cash Patel the same way. They can both give it just as quick as they can take it. Scott Miller: Well, you know, when Rubio ran president, I mean, the big about him was the quality of foreign policy. he just had real solid grasp on that. I honestly don't think could have found a better person to be the Secretary of State. But here are. Greg Fink: Exactly. And so, yeah, well, here we are. I think it's interesting, we were talking before the show that China actually had to change a few initials in his name as a story is out there, because I guess they had sanctioned him for being belligerent against the Chinese government back in 2020 when he was a US Senator. And so whenever he was doing that, I guess they had sanctioned him not to come under the Chinese property or some stupid thing like that. Now he's the Secretary of State and so they had to... alter his name in some manner or so the story goes so he can be allowed to be on the property of China. Scott Miller: You know, hope that's not true. I mean, ⁓ it is the dumbest thing that I've ever heard. mean, I mean, you know, you're to meet the president of another country. You assume that that president could just, you know, pencil whip or give some sort of brief, you know, know, remittance on that. Say, no, you're fine. ⁓ No, for for this special occasion, we're going to let you in just as once. Because Greg Fink: Good luck. It is so dumb. Scott Miller: What they're basically saying with that story is, is that the Chinese had to trick the people that worked for him into letting ⁓ into the country, which is the most ridiculous thing that I think I've ever heard. ⁓ Greg Fink: Right. Yeah, I know, mean... Scott Miller: I mean, I hadn't heard that story today, it is, but I, you know, it's politics. ⁓ can't say it's not gonna. Greg Fink: Yeah, it is. It's interesting the politics of today. I mean, we actually do have the new Democrat who likes to cross with the Republican Party, John Fetterman, who crossed in vote with Republicans today to approve the Fed chair, Mr. Warsh. And so that was really good. Scott Miller: I mean, you know, he... don't know how feel about him, he ⁓ is. ⁓ we get too far away from China, one of the things that we're talking about with Rubio and these things, a lot of this trip is to make them understand how they, in their interest, it is to put pressure on Iran to solve this problem. Because all these troubles that we're having with Iran, Greg Fink: What's coming around? Scott Miller: China's version of helping is to help Iran and to give them some, know, like giving them weapons technology and stuff like that. Well, you know, that sounds like a great idea because I guess they're selling, they're trading weapons for oil or something like that. But the simpler thing, the far simpler, you know, China has been supporting Iran for a long time because it's a thorn in our side and it's a problem. Well, now we've turned it into China's problem. And frankly, it's... It's almost China's problem to solve because we've done everything that we ought to have to do. China needs to go stop trying to just provoke people to be a problem, a thorn in our side because now... Greg Fink: Who knows? Scott Miller: That's 40 % of their energy infrastructure right there. They can't be without China. So it is far and away in their best interest to go ahead and stop just providing them with extra stuff, just go and have a serious conversation with them and say, this is what we're doing. But you remember, think you and I were talking yesterday about this, the thing that's gonna be interesting. Greg Fink: Right. Exactly. Scott Miller: is one of Trump's goals with his negotiation with China, and frankly, I think it's going to be a requirement, isn't just that they give up their nuclear material, but they're going to have to give at least some of it to us. And apparently, unlike what the Democrats said that Trump's first bombing of their nuclear facility was completely ineffective and made me back in business in a week, now the story is... Greg Fink: Right. Scott Miller: that it's so deep, there's only two or three countries in the world that can get it. And that would be us and China and maybe Russia. does have a lot of mining technology. So yeah, I mean, there's probably some competent guys that can do that. But you you cannot. Greg Fink: Right. Scott Miller: I'm not yet certain, but... If we're able to, once we're able to get our hands on some of those, some of that uranium. Uranium has a very particular signature on it, especially once it's been processed. Once it's processed, they can tell you not only where it was mined from originally, but they can tell you what process was used to refine it which reactor was used to refine it because they've ⁓ samples of everything. They got samples of all the Iranian stuff because they ⁓ it from where the IAEA was there. The UN doing inspections, so they have. Greg Fink: So where are they all staying, too? Scott Miller: some of the material that they have. Greg Fink: I'm thinking right here, how do they do that? I mean, how do we are to track as a stampter? Scott Miller: No, no, no, no, it's mass spectrometer. it has a molecular signature that can't be removed. So they're gonna run it through a mass spectrograph and ⁓ probably some other tests. But the spectrograph by itself will give it little high points, like it refines it just a certain way. They can tell you with our refining stuff, they tell you which centrifuge they use to refine it with. Greg Fink: Okay. And so they would actually probably know then where it came from then, right? Or which country? Scott Miller: they will know exactly where it came from. And so, the theory is that when Obama was out there handing out cash, that he also handed out some yellow cake uranium. you remember Clintons had an interest in this uranium one company, right? You remember this? ⁓ well, had interest. I know that Hillary, when she was Secretary of State, was integral in getting Greg Fink: Right. Yeah. Scott Miller: a license for the Russian Uranium One company to transport some uranium. So, you know, if we find out that it's, we find out that it came from Uranium One. ⁓ Greg Fink: university through the entire Another scandal. Scott Miller: just, you know, how many times you have to be proven right before people stop listening? Well, so far it has been a lot. You would think at some point, you know, we would run out of times that we have to be proven completely right, where people, but people never say, yeah, you're right. They just move on to the next thing. You you say, yeah, you say, out all your evidence. And then what do they do? They say, but why are you a racist? Greg Fink: But, you know. Hello. Yeah. Exactly. mean, order for them to admit that we're right, they have to admit that they are wrong. people not willing to do that. They just want to change the conversation and move on to the next topic and move on to the next flavor of the week. And that seems to be the way is right now. Scott Miller: I'm- Yeah, well. Well, overplaying their hand is the Democrats have done. But when you have weak cards, it's all you can do. ⁓ Greg Fink: Yeah, let's talk about overplaying of the hand thing here. do you mean exactly on how they're overplaying it? Scott Miller: Well, I mean, we've been talking about since, you know, since the middle of the Biden administration. At the middle of the Biden administration, I said that they were going to overplay their hand. What's the focus of their entire administration became all these woke with the transgender thing, with, know, with, with, I mean, just, just basically everything, you know, with all the, all racial animus and stuff that they were provoking, you know, all of these things that they're sitting there. Greg Fink: All right. Yeah. Scott Miller: talking about how they're defending people. Well, in order to defend them, they're literally provoking a fight in order to defend them from something. Greg Fink: I mean, it's kind of like, basically you and I are bigot somatically because we just happen to disagree with them. Instead of just two individuals who disagree with them. And so, mean, and people are like, you know, it's, they're conflating and, you know, just basically misdefining and redefining everything that we're saying and to fit their narrative. Their narrative is hate. There's bitterness, there's division, and we thrive on that. We make money off that. We raise money off that. We raise concerns off that. if there's any kind of unity whatsoever, that screws everything up. We cannot have unity. We cannot have any kind of teamwork period. Scott Miller: No, but I mean it's like we were talking about, I think we were talking about on a show last week or maybe it was just you and I talking about it. When we were talking about the you know, the revelation that the Southern Poverty Law Center, we've already, who we already talked about their fraud, charges that they have pending against them anyway. And it was revealed that they had spent like $250,000 or something like that on this up in North Carolina. And when I say spent, I mean, they're the ones that gave the resources to all these white nationalists. Greg Fink: Exactly, Scott Miller: to put on their protest. the reason that they, of course, the reason they did it was because they needed to have a bad guy. They raised tens of millions of dollars off of that event. So for them, yeah, it was a good investment, but it's kind of fraud when you are literally creating the bad guy and then raising money to stop the bad guy that you created. Greg Fink: I guess so. Theater. It's theater. It's not fraud. It's political theater. Exactly. No, I mean, it's the ultimate definition here of fraud. Whenever you're creating, it was taking money that was donated to a organization to fight crime and to support, you know, low income people who need criminal justice reform or criminal justice support and assistance. And you're using that money. Scott Miller: Yeah, well, we'll give them all a side card. Greg Fink: to pay other people to attack you so can raise more money. I mean, ⁓ that's not perpetrating a fraud, then what is? ⁓ Scott Miller: Yeah, exactly. my mind, it's the definition of fraud. I mean, I don't know how you get away from it. It's literally, you know, it's like setting the house on fire so that you can afford it, so that you can raise money for fire trucks. Greg Fink: No way, that would be like insurance fraud. Scott Miller: there's very little difference, frankly. Greg Fink: There's very hardly any difference whatsoever. And that seems to be, mean, the Democrats were all upset about, you know, we're talking about the redistricting and, and all the different things that Republicans are doing, which are so heinous and evil and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, it's almost literally like they have taken off their glasses and stuck their head completely in the sand at least 50 feet down. um, are expecting us to realize that they have not paid attention to what they have been doing for the last 50 years of politics. Scott Miller: Thank Yeah, I was gonna say what it wasn't heinous when they were doing it Greg Fink: No, and it's also not heinous now. mean, the whole idea originally, the concept of districting, that's supposed to be based on the census. You and I do polls, we do surveys. And whenever we do our weighting, our weighting is based off census data. Our weighting is based off making sure that everything is proportional correctly to the way that people are living in those districts and the demographics of the districts and is weighted that way. That's how most... Scott Miller: Mm-hmm. You have to balance things by party and by demographics. Greg Fink: Yeah. And that's how most pollsters that these Democrats are relying on for data do it, if they do it right, which a lot of them don't. Scott Miller: they don't know that's not how they do it because again as we've said numerous times these people are not trying to be to provide correct data they're trying to raise money exactly so it is all it is all a fundraising scam Greg Fink: No, they're trying to raise money. Exactly. And so, we're just using data and voter districts the same way as we would like to have accurate polls. I there's nefarious or weird about this. I the whole, mean, they're sucking the stigma here that, or they want to stick with this rhetoric that only these live together and only these people live together and only these people live together. that none of them live in different neighborhoods. None of them are mixed together. I'm in a household here with, you know, mixed races. We have a neighborhood here with mixed races. I mean, it's all over the place. It's not segregated. It's not the 60s anymore, guys. Wake up and get off this argument. Scott Miller: Well, know, my honest, honestly, my, my, think the most comical example of that is is Tennessee because Tennessee went 30 points for Trump. Okay. They are, they went, they went well, were all in bag. Trump, you know, Yeah. ⁓ yeah. Tennessee went, went huge, but Greg Fink: ⁓ yeah. legitimately? I'm kidding, mama. Scott Miller: And they just redistricted their state eliminated the last Democrat district, congressional district in there. So it's entirely red from now on. Here's the hilarious part. All the narratives that they're and crying foul was talking about how this is gonna make it so we can't have black. representation and the congressman that's been representing that district in Memphis for 30 years isn't going to be able to represent them anymore and they've eliminated that as an option for the black community. Here's the funny part, the guy that's been representing them for 30 years is an old white Jew. Okay. So if that old white Jew can represent minority interests, why can't a Republican old white guy represent young white guy? Actually, the funny part is they've been trying to get a black woman in that district for about 15 years. So no, because always runs into the, under this Democrat that always is well-funded and he always, always beats her because it's constructed that way. Greg Fink: Has it worked? Right. Scott Miller: So the Democrats crying they can't have proper racial representation now in Memphis, but they've never had it. And hilariously, guy's a Jew, which means that their Palestinian contingent isn't going to like it. You shouldn't be on his corner either. Greg Fink: And they might be, just for this case. Scott Miller: Well, of course he is because he's on their side. Greg Fink: But here's a funny thing to follow up with that. have Sheila Schifelis or whatever her name is, McCormick. She's the woman who was stepped down and resigned from Congress in District 20 in Florida. Scott Miller: Chef Les McCormick, yeah. She stepped out just before they could toss her out for fraud. Greg Fink: Exactly. And I saw a little press conference because obviously she doesn't think anybody has brains. She says, this is a black district. We have to keep it a black district. I'm running again because we need to have, make sure a black person is in the district. Not realizing that every single candidate in that race, all the other four Democrats and the three Republicans are also all African-Americans. And so, well, she hasn't jumped in yet. Scott Miller: No, except for one. ⁓ okay, okay. Greg Fink: And so Debbie hasn't jumped in yet. So there's a little bit of consternation between them. And she's basically saying Debbie stay out of it and that she's going to run again, although she just resigned and she's looking at years in prison and she's going to fight it and blah, blah. But because she's running because the district needs a black person. I realize that there's other, that a hundred percent of the other candidates are also all black. And so she's using that argument very weak. Exactly. Scott Miller: Yes, but nobody represents black interests like she does. They may be black, but they're not as black as she is. Greg Fink: And so the internal racism on that whole thing, and expect some people to say, yes, yes, we need to, mean, guys, she's a criminal. She's looking at 15 to 20 years in jail, in prison, that she's found guilty. She stole allegedly $5 million of COVID money for her campaign, her personal use, instead of it being $50,000, which I think was it was originally supposed to be. And so, I mean, come on. Scott Miller: It is. Well, see, you know, it, ⁓ Greg Fink: stupid do you think the people are? Scott Miller: know, well, Democrats are nothing if not racist. So, you know, and frankly, I don't know, mean, I'm not racist, I guess I'm criminalist or something like that. What do you call it when you're biased against criminals? Greg Fink: Yeah, we're against criminals. I think that's a criminalist. so yeah, mean, it's sad. And of course, the people who watch the show are like, well, you support Trump. I'm like, yeah, but Trump was not found guilty on anything that was legitimate. He was found guilty on charges that were not real and that will be eventually tossed out once everything is all said and done. Scott Miller: Yeah. Yeah! all well on their way to getting tossed out. ⁓ me tell you something. tell something. The Department of Justice didn't have to do any special contortion or back flips to come up with charges against her. ⁓ What did is black letter, You don't have to explain it to anybody about why it's a violation of the law. What they did with Trump, they can't even tell you what the predicate underlying crime was that they tried. Greg Fink: Yeah, I mean, anybody can be found, go to her. Yeah. Right. Scott Miller: convicted Trump of. And frankly, that's lot of the reason why it's not going to stand once the grownups actually finally get through looking at it. ⁓ Greg Fink: Grunt-ups. There's no grunt-ups in that world. I want children. Scott Miller: The grownups, once the grownups, don't start arguing my terminology, all right? That bugs the crap out of me. a dumb joke. But once grownups actually take a look at it, then we'll get the that are predictable because all it takes is someone who actually has an obligation or at least feels they have an obligation to follow the law. Greg Fink: Well, I understand, right? It's exactly like the Wayne County ballots and Fulton County ballots. And once we finally get judges who actually start opening up these cases, actually looking at the data that you and I have talked about on different surveys and ⁓ confirmation studies that we have done in Wayne County, Michigan other parts of the country. And once they actually start looking at the real data, I think ⁓ the Grown-Up Center will also the fraud. and how bad it was in 2020 and 2022 and probably 2024 and probably long before that I actually really want to dig into it. Scott Miller: Well, the longest running comedy of this political season is Fulton County for sure. Watching those guys come up with reasons why they need those ballots back desperately. mean, the, you know, the, the Fulton County clerk actually said the only reasonable thing you could say early in the process, which was, I don't care. I don't need them. They need to go away anyway. Okay. That, you know, that's what someone who's not really guilty of anything says. I think she's probably not very, not guilty of anything. think that whatever happened probably didn't involve her because a guilty person, the last thing they would want someone to do is to come and take all the evidence. And she was just as done with it. And I don't need you guys. the people that know what they did are ⁓ desperate to, to get those back, the evidence back. And there's a, there's podcast for Robert. Govair, something like that. He's an attorney out from Arizona. I listen to it. His channel is all about going through legal filings and he'll sit there and he's very entertaining the way he does. It sounds like a very dry topic, but he'll go through these filings and just underline the important parts and kind of translate them from dry legalese to reality. His characterization of the Polton County fraudsters is what he called them, the Polton County fraudsters. And his characterization of them is, oh, they want the murder weapon back. and every part of them asking for these things back is to get the murder weapon back because we can't have the murder weapon out there because, know, I mean, it's just ridiculous. Every argument they come up with has so many decades of black letter case law that just shows them to be wrong. Greg Fink: Right? Scott Miller: So, the with which they're trying should be all, that's a campaign ad in and of itself. How desperate are they? Apparently the answer is very desperate. Greg Fink: It is. Very desperate. Now, to the redistribution. looks like Alabama has also been approved now by the US Supreme Court to go ahead and redraw their lines. Do it. Scott Miller: There's, yeah, all of those, all of those are gonna get, all of those are gonna get approved. All the ones that are done right, because let me tell you why it's far more likely for a red state redistricting map to get approved than it is for a blue state when you get approved. Because the blue state ones, they all, they're a gerrymandered as far as they can be. Greg Fink: Now South Carolina, they actually... Scott Miller: There's not a drawn in there for them to have to get rid of. There's plenty of them in red states where red states were compelled to create these minority access districts. so ⁓ just about red state is gonna have at least one, if not more districts that were deliberately racially gerrymandered court order that are now deemed illegal. Greg Fink: Right? Now, what do you think about South Carolina? guess they're state house in South Carolina, the state Senate, they denied the opportunity. They said that they did not want to redraw their map for the May 26 cycle. And so the governor of McMaster, he's talking about doing a special session to compel them to vote on it again and forward with redoing the map. Scott Miller: Well... I have mixed feelings about that. We're talking about one or two seats anyway, if they genuinely don't want to. I can honestly see an ethical reason these people would not to do this mid thing, especially if they aren't in position Alabama, where they tried to draw at last redistribution and tried to draw like three or four maps and all got shot down by the courts, or Louisiana, where a court compelled them to Greg Fink: Right. Scott Miller: to try to create an additional minority access seat. places that were victims of court action, I get they want to do it right now. But other states, you know, that just have them and kind of inherited them from years ago, I get that. But the reality is, that the pressure for them to redo these districts, you know, not necessarily in for this, but certainly in time for the next presidential election. you know, is going to be fairly tremendous. And by the time that happens, there's going to be, there's just going to be an avalanche of support to get this stuff done. Greg Fink: Yeah, I know Trump is really pushing South Carolina to do it because Jim Clyburn is there and Jim Clyburn is a thorn in the side to Trump. turning that Democrat Republican is definitely beneficial to Trump's agenda. So I do know he's really pushing my master, Governor McMaster to do that. Scott Miller: I totally get why Trump wants to do it. And he just wants to win. And James Clyburn has been a pain for a long time. he also, you know... Demo party members of E of any party that have been in office for as long as he has, as friends on both sides of the aisle at the state level. he's favors ⁓ for guys. ⁓ So sure their mind ⁓ that, that a very targeted thing. And, know, and if he's their friend, I understand why they're, you know, they're not really excited about doing it. They may be, it may do it if they're compelled to, but. Yeah, I know I have a lot of friends, you and I both have a lot of friends in elected office and they'll tell us about stuff that they've done. My cousin, when he was in state legislature, used to work with ⁓ Democrats the time on things. He was actually famous. He was of an odd guy when you think about it because he was the guy that usually, he was one of handful of legislators who would submit bills regarding abortion. Greg Fink: That's what. Scott Miller: And he would also, when Planned Parenthood would come by, they'd come by his office and would set them down and listen and sincerely listen to them about the things that they were going to talk about. And he'd say, look, you know, the things that I can't work with you on. If there are some things that we can work together on, I'm happy to do it. ⁓ you the topics that are off, that are good Lord, it's a day, that are off Greg Fink: Exactly. Right. Scott Miller: But he's a, it's the difference between grandstanding and trying to govern. Greg Fink: So, mean, yeah, I mean, he looks at everything as a half full, as half empty, because he is always looking for solutions to problems, not problems to not any solutions to, which a lot of ⁓ politicians just trying to find problems and trying to create problems and not create ⁓ And because think there's more fundraising and havoc and you know, once you solve it. The problem goes away and so is ⁓ the reason for fundraising and the money all the process of it goes away. And cousin was really big and to make sure it went away and making he everything in the bud. And Rubio actually was one of them. I've had Rubio work with them quite a bit. Scott Miller: Yeah. ⁓ you did, ⁓ you did. Greg Fink: And so, and so, mean, we have seen firsthand a lot of these guys ⁓ ⁓ they work behind the scenes. And that's actually one reason why I was going to bring up Lindsey Graham. Today, I saw ⁓ Graham was getting upset or irritated with Pete about the war and about the budget and the costs and everything else. And, and I know a big military hawk, Lindsey Graham is. And think that he's... Scott Miller: ⁓ well. Greg Fink: probably expecting a different nature of military approach than what Cain and are doing currently. And so I don't really, I mean, usually Instagram just ⁓ does everything what Trump and for him to go out of the bounds here and attacking Hexneth is kind of weird. Scott Miller: I don't it's fair to say that he does everything Trump says. I think it's more fair, more correct to say that he and Trump are in agreement on a lot of things. Greg Fink: That's right, I agree, Scott Miller: Because you can the guy that just agrees. It mean that you're owned by anybody. mean, you and I agree on a lot stuff. That doesn't mean that either one of us owns the other. Greg Fink: That's Exactly. I mean, I'm going speak about that with Lindsey Graham, but my point is that usually he doesn't, you know, start raising ire about anything in the Trump administration without it checked out first. you know, he does due diligence before a hearing happens. And so for him to, you know, it all that overly aggressive, but it was more aggressive than usual for him. Scott Miller: For sure. Greg Fink: And so, I mean, it's interesting. I I myself am a little frustrated with Iranian war. I think we should have carpet bombed the entire thing already. But that's just me being a former military guy, I think. But you know. Scott Miller: Yeah, well, good thing you're not in charge because you know that's that's what the we did carpet bomb the place but we didn't we didn't turn into a thing of glass ⁓ I mean we accidentally hit hit school that that the Iranians you know ⁓ put to a bunch of Greg Fink: Exactly, I'm going to search. What? Alright. Scott Miller: weapons that they were storing. All right? So, and we haven't heard the end of it. All right? Imagine if we were deliberately just carpet bombing the whole place. Greg Fink: Exactly. Which is what they do. Well, I don't mean carpet bombing citizens, I'm talking about all the military targets and I think we have done a pretty good job of eradicating all their ability to do anything. And so I do wish we had a way of finding all these drones, but I do know that drones are hard to find. Scott Miller: Yeah, that, ⁓ You know, honestly, and maybe this is what they're doing, but I think they ought to have predators, predator just in constant orbit, like one every every three you know, down the entire Iranian coastline, ⁓ just constantly the whole time just recording everything. And then once of once one of these drones fires off, now you know where it came from. Greg Fink: Right. Scott Miller: And when you see where it launched from, now you've got all the days and previous days of footage and you can say, okay, it came from here. Well, how did they get here? And then how did they get there? And how did they get there? So I assume that they're doing some take on this, you know, because that's how you figure this stuff out. If you're constantly recording that are in place between the satellites and drones. Greg Fink: Right. Scott Miller: You can find this stuff easy. Greg Fink: I definitely agree. I also think it's great, being a military support guy, I think it's great that the defense budget is now up to $1.45 trillion for next year. is why they're proposing it. Which, you know, everyone's like, ⁓ that's a lot of money. That's horrible. I'm like, guys, this is how you keep America safe. I mean, you can't put a price on defense. In fact, that's actually the entire reason for the government, actually, originally, was to keep America safe. mean, and ⁓ costs more money now to do everything. It's just, happens everywhere. Get it. Scott Miller: Nice. Well done. Hey, now that now we're starting to draw down our commitments in NATO and the UN and stuff like that. mean, we're not we're not the plan to spend that money on elsewhere. Greg Fink: Yeah, the military people need a raise. Scott Miller: Military people need a raise, that's for sure. Greg Fink: Yeah, I mean, I don't think we're spending too much money on their salaries at all. You ask any of them. They'll tell you. Scott Miller: To be fair, everywhere thinks that they're underpaid, but the military actually has a legitimate beef. Greg Fink: ⁓ They do. They are tirelessly to keep us protected and do an incredible job. And they are sorely underpaid for the amount of work that they're doing. And anybody in Congress who doesn't want to do anything or when they do this government shutdown to stop their pay or homeland security or any of those individuals, I mean, it's just sick how the Democrats are basically doing all this stuff just for, you know, fundraising clickbait. Scott Miller: They say we are. Talk about strange bedfellows, though I will say that it's interesting that Chuck Schumer has decided to support the Senate resolution that says if we have another shutdown, that they're not going to pay any Senator salaries while there's a shutdown. I thought it was interesting that would be on board with that because it's going to damage his people more than anybody else. Although they probably have enough money in NGOs where they can still kind of survive for a long time. Greg Fink: Alright. Right. Probably can. Also, I don't think Schumer is too worried about his re-election with AOC anymore, because I guess AOC is going to run for president now. And so she's just going to bypass the whole Senate concept, because Senate is too small. In fact, she actually said the president might be too small for her. She wants to change the world and change the country in a much more compelling manner than what a president can do. Scott Miller: that hilarious? ⁓ Well, went from being a professional bartender to a professional fundraiser. And you to talk about how you can raise money? How ⁓ you can some money? You want to get rich? Run for president. Just ask Barack Obama. Because she doesn't have to win. Greg Fink: Forget it. For real. Scott Miller: because she gets to designate where all this money gets spent. She gets to give it to worthy causes too. you think those worthy causes aren't to hire her to do other things afterwards, kind of split the money. Greg Fink: She's not, she didn't invent the game either. mean, this has been going on. That's one thing that we see a lot. people, of the opinion, I think probably 65 % of the candidates out there are running for a living because, ⁓ know, you can, ⁓ campaign laws are set up in such a manner where you can almost justify any expense on any part of any. Scott Miller: No, no! Mm-hmm. Greg Fink: know, any part of your life whatsoever. the teeth of people going after them for that is just... it's not there. Scott Miller: The campaign finance laws are written by congressmen for congressmen. Greg Fink: That's a good slogan. Scott Miller: Right. Greg Fink: That's a reality. so I I mean, and that's the way it is. I I found out today that 501C4s and 527s can now apply for grants. I guess it probably could for a couple of years, but I never really thought of that concept of a 527 trying to get a grant. Scott Miller: Well, the 527 is a little surprising, but the 504, the C4s are not, because that's kind of, they're bread and butter, I think. Greg Fink: Yeah. Yeah, and so if anyone wants to comment or correct us or send us a link on that because that's just so here's how I heard today. But if that's the case, mean, that's just more money funneling. Scott Miller: Well, me walk that back a little bit. I'm not surprised that a 527 is allowed to get a grant. I'm just surprised anyone would authorize it. Greg Fink: ⁓ yeah, exactly. Cause I guess 526s are like LLCs and corporations and stuff like that. had to be incorporated in LO. Exactly. Which are campaign driven. And so it's a, and they're interacting with the candidates saying vote for, vote against. And so I mean. Scott Miller: They're specifically campaign related. Greg Fink: They're not just acting as an altruistic, issue-driven committee like the U.C.O. or something like that. They're actually on behalf of, for against a candidate and they're getting grants for that, which is weird. Scott Miller: The grant part surprises me. Like I said, not from a compliance perspective, but just from the perspective that they're not even ethics, just the fact that there's any government organization that would have the audacity to give them a grant. Greg Fink: It is. ethical. Yeah, we're any private organization that give them a grant. Scott Miller: Well, private organizations, that's kind of the way they work. That's not called a grant, that's called a donation. Greg Fink: Yeah. And that's very true. called donation. yeah, exactly. But with the political coming up, I guess we have a lot of elections here coming up here in the next two or three months here for primary season. We already have a lot of them already around the country with all the redistricting going on and all the new numbers and everything going on is going to be a whirlwind of clickbait everywhere fundraising. Scott Miller: They only call it a grant when the government's handing it out. Greg Fink: at a very high level. Scott Miller: Yeah, well get ready for your phones to start blowing up because with all these new districts people are going to have to poll in order to even understand what's going on in the district. Greg Fink: You have a lot of new people running who were going to run before also. so, I mean, usually these open seats are going to attract at least half a dozen to a dozen people on each seat most likely. And also, like we said before, the district thing right now is just federal. So, I mean, we actually have a promotional thing on our website, Poundbox Productions, talks about polling in the new map. it's all about the federal races right now, but if people don't realize one seat is minority. Scott Miller: Mm-hmm, because they're open seats now. Greg Fink: districts are going away on a federal level, it has to trickle down to a state level and the county level by law. And so it's going to be once redistricting does come around and we're in 2026. So I guess the next census, which is just two or three years away. And so once they do that, it's going to be a whole new world of redistricting on all different levels because it all trickles down. Scott Miller: Every state county or municipal organ, you know, entity that has, that has a district that was crafted on racial criteria is going to have to redo their districts, which means that everyone is going to be, well, I mean, it doesn't automatically mean someone is tossed out of a district because they, you know, they, can, you know, the organizations that draw the maps can draw the current incumbent into the same, same thing, unless Greg Fink: I know it doesn't. Scott Miller: the district number has to change for some reason. If that's the case, well, then they're just out of luck. Greg Fink: Right. Well, the cool thing about elections is if you're a good enough candidate and you're good enough incumbent, you should have a notion of getting re-elected again. If you did a good job, then what's there to worry about? know, I mean, go campaign, go out there and kiss more babies and grab more hands and get more votes. I mean, that's this is all about. And elections all about you're in a qualification, you just got to get more votes than the other guy. That's it. And so... Scott Miller: Well, mean, qualifications are just features in your presentation. This candidate comes equipped with extra veteran awareness. Greg Fink: Exactly. I actually think it's actually racist to think that a black candidate cannot win in a district that's not just just for them. It's basically saying that the is subpar compared to the other incumbents and they're not. If they elected, they should have the equal power, equal professionalism, access to information subject matter expertise. ⁓ And so on and so forth that they're doing as an incumbent representing their district. And they should be able to handle, take those same credentials with them, matter who, race they're representing. I mean, ⁓ representing everybody in your district. You think that. so basically that these people who are in district are different than these people who are in this district. And they're not as equal. I they're, they're insulting their race. I mean, by saying it has to be Hispanic or African-American. Scott Miller: One would think. Mm-hmm. Greg Fink: or Vietnamese or Asian or someone and so forth, whatever, however the district is drawn. I mean, realizing that you're assuming everybody else is racist and we're not a racist society. As much as I keep hearing Democrats who keep saying that we're all racist and it's not, okay. I mean, I'm sure there's pockets of racism out there, but it's not in the election cycle. Scott Miller: Well, you know, at this point... At this point, think even the Democrat, rank and file Democrats ⁓ that talking point is kind of wearing thin because, mean, they friends. Frankly, the people who still believe that racism is worse than it's ever been are the white liberals. Greg Fink: Exactly. I just... Scott Miller: And think the ⁓ most hysterical thing, going to this Memphis thing where this old white guy is representing minorities, want a representative. Well, are there maybe Hispanic that live in that district? Are they not ⁓ deserving adequate representation too? can't we put up a Hispanic person? I mean, it's just, the... The way that they have used race for so long is ridiculous. And finally, like I said, the talking point is wearing Finn even on their own party. Greg Fink: Right. And so, that's the whole point is that, know, of Rodney King said, why can't we all just get along? I mean, yes. Scott Miller: Well, they know, know that, you know, the rank and file Democrats know that they don't mean it. They know that it's a bunch of BS and no really, this racism is a club with which to beat back the opposition when you have absolutely no policy worth discussing. Greg Fink: Yeah, because I actually know a lot of Democrats and I know a lot of them heart. And when it talks about the issues of the community that they're in, they actually feel almost identical to the Republicans I know in the same area because they care about schools being good. They care about crime being down. They care about, know, the majority are very strong about pro-life. They agree with pro-choice, you know, to a degree. But in African-American community, extremely pro-life. They're very, I mean, people want family values. are not for, you know, families being separated. I mean, they it. then, but sticks this here little hate wand in there just to stir it up and create all kinds of hostility. And, you know, basically saying that we're all a of Hitlers here who agree with Trump and anybody ⁓ who doesn't agree Trump is Jesus and perfect. Scott Miller: Mm-hmm. Greg Fink: And basically it's very bizarre. like if Hitler said a conjunction or an adjective and we said the same adjective or conjunction, we're identical to Hitler. And so, mean, it's thin and ⁓ so sad, reach they're reaching at. Scott Miller: Hmm? Well, again, like I was saying, mean, they've worn that talking point to death to where, you you can only say that you only cry wolf so many times before people start paying attention to you. And ⁓ are we are well on our way to that point. We are leaning the ledge at this point, you know, with just our fingernails holding ⁓ on that talking point. Greg Fink: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Well, real quick, do you got anything else you want to talk about? think the Iranian war, I think it's almost over. Scott Miller: I know, I think we pretty much covered everything worth covering that we haven't already beaten to death. Greg Fink: Exactly. Well you guys follow us on every single platform you find us on stay tuned to the next episode and ⁓ you a great evening Scott. Scott Miller: Alright.