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Explosive FD1023 Released: Gives Explicit, Damning Details of Joe Biden Bribery Allegations · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you,
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Speaker 2: and we have got a lot to cover on this episode.
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Speaker 2: On top of the fact that there is more breaking
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Speaker 2: news coming out of the Biden crime family. But we
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Speaker 2: have a new FD ten twenty three form that is
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Speaker 2: alleging that the then Vice President Joe Biden was involved
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Speaker 2: in a five million dollar bribery scheme with Barisma executive.
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Speaker 1: It's now been released by Senator Chuck Grassley. We're going
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Speaker 1: to go through that.
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Speaker 2: Plus we also have some new breaking news that deals
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Speaker 2: with corruption with the President's sister, Valerie Biden.
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Speaker 1: Senator, let's start with this FD ten twenty three.
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Speaker 2: This comes on the heel of our two part series
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Speaker 2: that we did that went viral last week with James
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Speaker 2: Comer and thank you for everybody that shared this on
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Speaker 2: social media. It was in the top of the charts,
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Speaker 2: both episodes at the same time, in the top fifty
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Speaker 2: on Apple because of great patriots like all of you
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Speaker 2: that are listening that share this on social media. If
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Speaker 2: you missed it, go back and listen to it because
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Speaker 2: it was being downloaded by a lot of people over
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Speaker 2: the weekend as well. People that may not have followed
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Speaker 2: this story from the very beginning center and now we
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Speaker 2: have this FD ten twenty three. Explain what this is
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Speaker 2: and why this is so significant that Chuck Grafley has
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Speaker 2: put it out.
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Speaker 3: Well, let me first underscore what you just said about
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Speaker 3: Thursday and Fridays episodes last week. What we did Thursday
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Speaker 3: and Friday was a two part series where we did
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Speaker 3: an exclusive interview with James Comer, the Chairman of the
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Speaker 3: House Oversight Committee, and he came immediately after an entire
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Speaker 3: day of conducting hearings with the two irs whistleblowers, and
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Speaker 3: he came and sat down with us for an hour
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Speaker 3: and listen, anywhere else you get news about what's going on,
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Speaker 3: you get it in a snippet, you get in a
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Speaker 3: little bit here or there. James goes on all sorts
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Speaker 3: of shows. He goes on things like Kennedy, I do
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Speaker 3: Hannity all the time as well. You know, you go
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Speaker 3: on with Sean you get maybe six or eight minutes.
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Speaker 3: We sat down with James for an hour walking through
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Speaker 3: in detail, what are the facts, what are the allegations,
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Speaker 3: what do we know? What are the legal claims? And
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Speaker 3: it is for anyone that really wants to know what's
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Speaker 3: the state of play in the evidence that has amassed
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Speaker 3: against Joe Biden, against Hunter Biden, against Merrick Garland. Listened
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Speaker 3: to Thursday and Friday's podcast that two part series. It
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Speaker 3: was designed to really encapsulate all of it. Today's podcast
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Speaker 3: follows up on that with another major development that occurred
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Speaker 3: late last week, which is late last week, Chuck Grassley
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Speaker 3: and Chairman Comer together release the FD ten twenty three. Now,
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Speaker 3: we've talked a lot about the FD ten twenty three.
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Speaker 3: That is the report the FBI made when a confidential
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Speaker 3: human source made serious allegations of bribery against Joe Biden
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Speaker 3: from when he was the sitting vice president of the
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Speaker 3: United States. And you'll recall I asked the deputy director
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Speaker 3: the FBI under oath do you have the FD ten
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Speaker 3: twenty three used to acknowledge it. I asked, will you
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Speaker 3: give it to Congress? He refused to commit to doing so. Well,
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Speaker 3: Grassley and Comer they had a copy of it, and
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Speaker 3: they essentially said, to hell with it, we're putting it out,
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Speaker 3: and they released it. I'm going to encourage everyone go
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Speaker 3: and read it. It's four pages and when you read it,
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Speaker 3: if you're not horrified. If you're not immediately asking why
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Speaker 3: didn't the FBI seriously thoroughly investigate this. If you're not
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Speaker 3: asking why didn't this lead the six o'clock news on
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Speaker 3: every station, then you're not paying attention to the document.
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Speaker 4: So I think what is valuable for this.
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Speaker 3: Podcast to do is for us to walk through what
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Speaker 3: the document says. So is the document from the FBI.
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Speaker 3: It says unclassified at the top of it, and yet
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Speaker 3: the FBI wanted to keep it secret even though it
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Speaker 3: was never classified. An FD ten twenty three is a
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Speaker 3: report from a confidential human source, and it says at
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Speaker 3: the top that it's a telephonic meeting that occurred on
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Speaker 3: June thirtieth, twenty twenty, so before the last election, and
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Speaker 3: it says source reporting. The confidential human source reported the
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Speaker 3: following the first meeting with Barisma executives in Kiev, Ukraine
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Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen or twenty sixteen. In late twenty fifteen
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Speaker 3: or twenty sixteen, during the Obama Biden administration, the confidential
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Speaker 3: human source was first introduced to officials at Ukraine natural
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Speaker 3: gas business Barisma Holdings through and something is blocked out.
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Speaker 3: Alexander Ostapenko, Confidential Human Source and Ostapenko traveled to Ukraine
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Speaker 3: and went to Barisma's office that was located twenty minutes
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Speaker 3: away from the city center. The purpose of the meeting
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Speaker 3: was to discuss Barisma's interest in purchasing a US based
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Speaker 3: oil and gas business for purposes of merging it with
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Speaker 3: Borisma for purposes of conducting an IPO in the US.
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Speaker 3: Barisma was willing to purchase a US based entity for
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Speaker 3: twenty to thirty million dollars. At this meeting was the
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Speaker 3: Confidential Human source, the confidential Human sources business partner, and
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Speaker 3: there's a little bit redacted Ostapenko, Borisma's CFO, Vadim Pordjarski,
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Speaker 3: a little bit more is blocked out, and then Karinas Lootchevsky,
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Speaker 3: who's the daughter of Barisma CEO and founder Mikolos Lootchewsky,
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Speaker 3: and her husband. The conversation was in Russian. During the meeting,
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Speaker 3: Pojarski asked the Confidential Human source whether the Confidential Human
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Speaker 3: Source was aware of Borisma's board of directors. The Confidential
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Speaker 3: Human Source replied no, and Pojarski advised that the board
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Speaker 3: members included number one, the former president or Prime Minister
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Speaker 3: of Poland and number two Joe Biden's son, Hunter Biden.
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Speaker 3: Pojarski said that Borisma hired the former president of Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister of Poland to leverage his contacts in Europe for
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Speaker 3: prospective devoil and gas deals, and they hired Hunter Biden
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Speaker 3: to quote protect us through his dad from all kinds
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Speaker 3: of problems. Confidential human source asked why they Borisma needed
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Speaker 3: to get confidential human sources assistance regarding the purchase merger
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Speaker 3: of a US based company when Biden was on their board.
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Speaker 3: Pojarski replied that Hunter Biden was not smart and they
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Speaker 3: wanted to get additional counsel. The group then had a
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Speaker 3: general conversation about whether the purchase merger with a US
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Speaker 3: company would be a good business decision. Okay, that's page one.
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Speaker 2: This shocking, by the way, just let's just dissect that
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Speaker 2: for a second center. You basically have a confidence source
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Speaker 2: saying here they're doing a massive deal. The only thing
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Speaker 2: that would involve the Biden crime family is influence peddling,
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Speaker 2: and that's what they're getting paid for here, and you
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Speaker 2: have this confidentive source of saying, yeah, this is what
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Speaker 2: they did.
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Speaker 1: This is how it worked. They wanted influence in America.
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Speaker 2: They needed somebody to help them make this happen that
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Speaker 2: had political clout and cover, and they could make things
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Speaker 2: happen and move things and get things out of the way.
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Speaker 1: And that's what the Bidens were selling.
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Speaker 3: And let's be clear, it's not what Hunter could do.
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Speaker 3: Go back and recall exactly what this is. They hired
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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden to quote protect us through his dad. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: from all kinds of problems. That's a quote. That quote,
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Speaker 3: if accurate, is what Hunter was selling is favors from daddy,
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Speaker 3: who was the sitting vice president of the United States.
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Speaker 4: That is illegal.
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Speaker 3: You were not allowed to sell for profit favors from
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Speaker 3: a sitting government official. All right, So that's page one,
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Speaker 3: But it actually astonishingly gets worse. So it goes on
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Speaker 3: from there, says meeting with confidential human source Ostapenko and
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Speaker 3: Mikolis Loochewski and Vienna, Austria in twenty sixteen, approximately one
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Speaker 3: or two months after the aforementioned Barisma meeting in Ukraine,
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Speaker 3: the confidential human source traveled to Vienna, Austria, was Ostapenko
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Speaker 3: and met with Mikolislochevsky at an outside coffee shop. The
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Speaker 3: trio continued to talk about the feasibility of Barisma acquiring
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Speaker 3: a US based entity. The confidential human source recalled this
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Speaker 3: meeting took place around the time Joe Biden made a
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Speaker 3: statement a public statement about former Ukraine Prosecutor General Victor
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Speaker 3: Schokin being corrupt and that he should be fired, slashed.
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Speaker 4: Removed from office.
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Speaker 3: The confidential human source told z Loochevsky that due to
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Speaker 3: Shokin's investigation into Barisma, which was made public at this time,
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Speaker 3: it would have a substantial negative effect on Barisma's perspective
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Speaker 3: IPO in the United States. Zlotchevsky replied something to the
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Speaker 3: effect of, quote, don't worry, Hunter will take care of
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Speaker 3: all of those issues through his dad.
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Speaker 4: End quote.
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Speaker 3: Confidential human source did not ask any further questions about
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Speaker 3: what that specifically meant. Confidential human source asked Slotchevsky why
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Speaker 3: Bearisma would pay twenty to thirty million dollars to buy
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Speaker 3: a US company for IPO purposes when it would be
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Speaker 3: cheaper to just form a new US entity or purchase
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Speaker 3: a corporate shell that was already listed.
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Speaker 4: On an exchange.
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Speaker 3: Slotchevsky responded that Hunter Biden advised Barisma that it could
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Speaker 3: raise much more capital if Bearisma purchased a larger US
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Speaker 3: based business that already had a history in the US
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Speaker 3: oil and gas sector. The confidential human source recalled Zlotchevsky
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Speaker 3: mentioned some US based gas businesses in Texas, the names
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Speaker 3: of which the confidential human source did not recall. Slotchevsky mentioned.
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Speaker 3: The confidential human source advised Slotchevsky it would be problematic
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Speaker 3: to raise capital in the US given Shokun's investigation into Barisma,
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Speaker 3: as nobody in the US would invest in a company
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Speaker 3: that was the subject of a criminal investigation. The confidential
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Speaker 3: human source suggested it would be best if Barisma simply
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Speaker 3: litigate the matter in Ukraine and pay some attorney fifty
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars. Slotchevsky said he Bearisma would likely lose the
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Speaker 3: trial because he could not show that Borisma was Innocentchevsky
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Speaker 3: also laughed at the confidential human sources number of fifty
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Speaker 3: thousand dollars, not because of them all about, but because
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Speaker 3: the number contained a five, and said that quote it
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Speaker 3: cost five million to pay one Biden and five million
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Speaker 3: to another Biden.
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Speaker 2: Now I got to stop you there, Centner, that what
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Speaker 2: this man is saying is I straight up bribed the
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Speaker 2: then Vice president United States of America with ten million
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Speaker 2: dollars that went into his family business that doesn't exist
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Speaker 2: without him and his position of power, and laughed about
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Speaker 2: the idea of paying fifty thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: To a lawyer.
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Speaker 2: But it's normal to pay ten million to the Biden
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Speaker 2: family members to protect your interests.
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Speaker 1: That is bribery through and.
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Speaker 3: Through now, to be clear, in Ukraine and sadly and
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Speaker 3: in many of the former Soviet republics, bribery is a
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Speaker 3: fact of life. It is how businesses behave. They are
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Speaker 3: used to bribing officials. BBLIC officials are on the take,
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Speaker 3: they collect money from companies. That's how oligarchs get rich
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Speaker 3: as they bribe public officials. The US Vice president, who
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Speaker 3: is right now the sitting president of the United States,
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Speaker 3: is not supposed to be a corrupt Russian or Ukrainian oligarch. Now,
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Speaker 3: going back to the Ft ten twenty three, the confidential
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Speaker 3: human source noted that at this time it was unclear
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Speaker 3: to the confidential human source whether these alleged payments were
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Speaker 3: already made. The confidential human source told s Lootchevsky that
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Speaker 3: any such payments to the Bidens would complicate matters. There's
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Speaker 3: some understatement and Barisma should hire quote some normal US
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Speaker 3: oil and gas advisors because the Bidens have no experience
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Speaker 3: with that business sector. Slotchevsky made some comments that although
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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden quote was stupid and his Lotchevsky's dog was
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Speaker 3: smarter end quote, Zlochsky needed to keep Hunter Buden on
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Speaker 3: the board quote so everything will be okay.
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Speaker 2: So to be clear, they're admitting that Hunter Biden is
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Speaker 2: dumb as a dog, and he's just the guy we
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Speaker 2: got a funnel the money through, and it's Joe Biden
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Speaker 2: that keep your eye on the ball here, that's the
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Speaker 2: guy we're really hiring. Hunter Biden is useless, gives them
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Speaker 2: nothing on the board, gives him nothing as advice, doesn't
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Speaker 2: know the language, doesn't know the industry, and a dog
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Speaker 2: could help them more. Yet it's because of his father
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Speaker 2: get back to this this again. Hunter Biden, they're saying
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Speaker 2: is an idiot. He's he's there's dogs that are more
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Speaker 2: useful than he is when it comes to IQ. Yet
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Speaker 2: we got to give ten million dollars the Biden crime family.
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Speaker 1: This is how we funnel the money.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and let me be clear, Ben, these are allegations.
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Speaker 3: We don't know if this is true. We don't know
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Speaker 3: if the confidential Human source is telling the truth. We
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Speaker 3: don't know if Lochevsky said this. I don't know Hunter Biden.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's smart or not. I have
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Speaker 3: no idea. I know he went to Yale. I don't
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Speaker 3: know if that is because of Daddy or not. I'm
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Speaker 3: simply reading what the FBI for says. The confidential Human
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Speaker 3: source says that Zlochevsky said it could be false. It
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Speaker 3: could be true, but I'll tell you every paragraph contains
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Speaker 3: Bob bombshells. The next sentence, the confidential Human source inquired
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Speaker 3: whether Hunter Biden or Joe Biden tolds Lowchevsky he should
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Speaker 3: retain Hunter Biden. Slotchevsky replied, they both did. That's a
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Speaker 3: straight up allegation that Joe Biden told this Ukrainian oligark,
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Speaker 3: hire my son and pay him money. Presumably if you
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Speaker 3: want favors from me the vice president. The confidential human
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Speaker 3: source reiterated his opinion that Slotchevsky was making a mistake
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Speaker 3: and that he should fire Hunter Biden and deal with
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Speaker 3: Shokuin's investigation directly so that the matter will remain an
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Speaker 3: issue in Ukraine and not turn into some international matter.
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Speaker 3: Slotchevsky responded something to the effect of, don't worry, this
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Speaker 3: thing will go away anyway. The confidential human source replied
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Speaker 3: that notwithstanding Chokin's investigation, it was still a bad decision
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Speaker 3: for Borisma to spend twenty to thirty million dollars to
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Speaker 3: buy a US business, and that the confidential human source
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Speaker 3: didn't want to be involved with the Biden matter. Slotchevsky
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Speaker 3: responded that he appreciated the confidential human sources advice, but
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Speaker 3: that quote, it's too late to change his decision. The
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Speaker 3: confidential human source understood this to mean that Slotchevsky had
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Speaker 3: already paid the bidens, presumably to quote deal with Choken.
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Speaker 4: That's the end of the second beating.
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Speaker 2: All right, let me just say this, and I understand
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Speaker 2: you said earlier these are allegations, and that's a fair point.
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Speaker 2: I think it's a great point that we should highlight.
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Speaker 2: But let's look also center at the evidence for a second.
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Speaker 2: We know from suspicious active reports, yes or no, that
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Speaker 2: ten million dollars came to the.
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Speaker 4: Bidens more than that, okay.
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Speaker 2: And we know that the President of the United States
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Speaker 2: of America is on tape saying that he got the
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Speaker 2: prosecutor fired in Ukraine that was going to go after
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Speaker 2: the corruption with Embarisma, and he bragged about holding up
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Speaker 2: US dollars a billion dollars to get him fired.
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Speaker 1: And that work correct.
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Speaker 3: Yes, And to go back to remember the first Trump impeachment,
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Speaker 3: you remember the phrase quid pro quo.
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Speaker 4: Yes, quid pro quo.
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Speaker 3: Is a Latin phrase that means this for that, and
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Speaker 3: it's right at the heart of an allegation for bribery,
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Speaker 3: this for that, that this is some form of official favor.
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Speaker 3: In this instance, there is no disputing that Joe Biden
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Speaker 3: committed the quid, which is that he went to Ukraine,
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Speaker 3: that he threatened to withhold a billion dollars in American
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Speaker 3: military aid unless the Ukrainian president fired Victor Schoken, the
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Speaker 3: same guy that this FD ten twenty three is talking about.
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Speaker 3: We know that Joe Biden said fire Shoken or else
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Speaker 3: You're not getting the money. And we know this because
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden has confessed this in an interview with the
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Speaker 3: Atlantic Council on video. You could watch it. You can
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Speaker 3: listen to it. In fact, listen to it right now.
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Speaker 3: So this is we're going to play you right now,
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden admitting that he as Vice President of the
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Speaker 3: United States got Victor choken fire.
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Speaker 4: Take a listen.
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Speaker 5: I was not I I but it just happened to be.
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Speaker 5: That was the assignment I got. I got all the
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Speaker 5: good ones, and so I got Ukraine, and I remember
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Speaker 5: going over convincing our team or others to convincing that
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Speaker 5: we should be providing for loan guarantees. And I went over,
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Speaker 5: I guess the twelve thirteenth time to Kiev, and I
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Speaker 5: was supposed to announce that there was another billion dollar
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Speaker 5: loan guarantee. And I had gotten a commitment from Porshenko
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Speaker 5: and from Yachtsan Yuk that they would take action against
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Speaker 5: the state prosecutor, and they didn't. So they said they
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Speaker 5: had they were walking out to Prescomte. I said no,
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Speaker 5: I said, I'm not going to or we're not going
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Speaker 5: to give you the billion. They said, you have no
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Speaker 5: authority you're not the president. The president said, I said,
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Speaker 5: call him. I said, I'm telling you're not getting a
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Speaker 5: billion dollars. I said, you're not getting a billion and
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Speaker 5: I'm gonna be leaving here. And I think it was
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Speaker 5: what six hours. I look, I said'm leaving it six hours.
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Speaker 5: If the prosecutor's not fired, you're not getting the money. Oh,
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Speaker 5: son of a bitch got fired.
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Speaker 1: There's the famous line center.
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Speaker 3: That is an admission the quid occurred. There is zero
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Speaker 3: dispute that Joe Biden directly used his position as vice
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Speaker 3: president to get Victor Choken fired the prosecutor who was
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Speaker 3: investigating Bearisma.
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Speaker 4: That is undisputed.
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Speaker 3: The only question is was the quid for the quote
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Speaker 3: for the ten million dollars? So if it is the
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Speaker 3: case that the oligarch who owned Bearisma paid Joe Biden
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Speaker 3: and Hunter Biden ten million dollars for that official act,
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Speaker 3: then both are guilty of bribery, a felon, and both
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Speaker 3: should go to jail. The only thing that is in
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Speaker 3: question is did Berism pay for the quo that Joe
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Speaker 3: Biden indisputedly and that he admits he provided.
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Speaker 2: Now you look at this document now and again, if
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Speaker 2: there wasn't so much supporting evidence, you might just say,
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Speaker 2: all right, well, this is just some random person making accusations.
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Speaker 2: But when you piece it all together now from what
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Speaker 2: we have from suspicious activity ports, what we have from
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Speaker 2: whistle Blower Center, what we have from now the president
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Speaker 2: and his own mission, and now that we know the
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Speaker 2: money came to the bank accounts and then was dispersed
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Speaker 2: to the Biden family, this may be the most damning
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Speaker 2: connections that we've had, basically putting the entire web together
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Speaker 2: at one moment in time.
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Speaker 3: And there's more. We're halfway through the FD ten twenty three.
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Speaker 3: Just for Laus, How the hell is this not on
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Speaker 3: the news?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, none of it jams.
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Speaker 3: This is a public document. You haven't seen this? Ask yourself,
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Speaker 3: have you heard any of what I'm telling you now?
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Speaker 3: So let's keep reading this FBI report. The next section
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Speaker 3: subsequent telephone calls between confidential human sources Lochewski twenty sixteen
24:58
Speaker 3: slash twenty seventeen telephone call. Shortly after the twenty sixteen
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Speaker 3: US election and during President Trump's transition period, the confidential
25:08
Speaker 3: human source participated in a conference call with Ostapenko and Slouchevski.
25:13
Speaker 3: The confidential human source inquired whether Slotchevsky was happy with
25:18
Speaker 3: the US election results. Slotchevsky replied that he was not
25:22
Speaker 3: happy Trump won the election. The confidential human source asked
25:27
Speaker 3: Slotchevski whether he was concerned about Barisma's involvement with the bidens.
25:34
Speaker 3: Slotchevsky stated that he didn't want to pay the bidens
25:38
Speaker 3: and he was quote pushed to pay them. The confidential
25:43
Speaker 3: human source explained the Russian terms Lochevsky used to explain
25:49
Speaker 3: the payments was poluchili, which literally translates to got it
25:59
Speaker 3: or received, but is also used in Russian criminal slang
26:05
Speaker 3: for being forced or coerced to pay Szlotchevsky stated Shokin
26:12
Speaker 3: had already been fired and no investigation was currently going on,
26:18
Speaker 3: and that nobody would find out about his financial.
26:20
Speaker 4: Dealings with the Bidens. Wow.
26:23
Speaker 3: The confidential human source then stated, quote, I hope you
26:27
Speaker 3: have some backup proof for your words, namely that Zlotchevsky
26:32
Speaker 3: was quote forced to pay the bidens. Zlotchevsky replied that
26:38
Speaker 3: he has many text messages and quote recordings that could
26:44
Speaker 3: show that he was forced to make such payments. The
26:50
Speaker 3: confidential human source told Zlotchevsky he should make certain that
26:55
Speaker 3: he should retain those recordings. Slotchevsky asked whether it would
26:59
Speaker 3: make any legal difference whether he voluntarily made such payments
27:04
Speaker 3: or if he was forced to make them. Slotchevsky then
27:08
Speaker 3: asked the confidential human source whether he could provide any
27:11
Speaker 3: assistance in Ukraine with the port Oshenka regime if something
27:15
Speaker 3: were to happen as Lotchevsky in the future. The confidential
27:19
Speaker 3: human source replied that the confidential human source didn't want
27:22
Speaker 3: to get involved in any such matters. Note see the
27:26
Speaker 3: previous confidential human source report dated March first, twenty seventeen.
27:32
Speaker 3: We don't have that report wherein the confidential human source
27:36
Speaker 3: reported the foregoing and stated the call took place during
27:39
Speaker 3: the week of two twenty seven, twenty seventeen. At that time,
27:44
Speaker 3: the confidential human source stated that Slotchevsky briefly discussed Hutter Biden,
27:50
Speaker 3: but the topic was not relevant to Borisma's interest in
27:53
Speaker 3: acquiring a US based petroleum business for fifty to one
27:56
Speaker 3: hundred million dollars. At this time, the confident human source
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Speaker 3: also reported aforementioned Vadim Hausharshki was assigned by Bearisma to
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Speaker 3: manage the acquisition and he was planning to travel to Washington,
28:11
Speaker 3: d C. In March of twenty seventeen. Next section twenty
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Speaker 3: nineteen telephone call. After the aforementioned twenty sixteen call, the
28:22
Speaker 3: confidential human source had no interactions with Slotchevski or Barisma
28:26
Speaker 3: whatsoever until twenty nineteen. In twenty nineteen, the confidential human
28:31
Speaker 3: source met with Ostrapenko in London to discuss various business
28:36
Speaker 3: matters which had nothing to do with Slotchevsky, Bisma, the
28:39
Speaker 3: oil and gas industry. The confidential human source noted that
28:43
Speaker 3: his meeting with Ostapenko took place at a quote Russian
28:47
Speaker 3: coffeehouse near Knightsbridge Street, located near Herod's department store, and
28:54
Speaker 3: that Ostapenko's fiancee lives in London. At some point During
28:59
Speaker 3: the meets, Ostapenko advised the confidential human source that he
29:03
Speaker 3: was going to call Slotchevsky.
29:06
Speaker 4: At this time.
29:06
Speaker 3: The confidential human source understood so Lochevski was living somewhere
29:10
Speaker 3: in Europe. During the calls, Lochevsky asked the confidential human
29:14
Speaker 3: source and or Ostapenko if they had read the recent
29:19
Speaker 3: news reports about the investigations into the Bidens and Barisma,
29:24
Speaker 3: and Slotchevsky jokingly asked the confidential human source if the
29:28
Speaker 3: confidential human source was a quote oracle. Due to the
29:33
Speaker 3: Confidential Human sources prior advice that Slotchevsky should not pay
29:37
Speaker 3: the Bidens but instead hire an attorney to litigate the
29:40
Speaker 3: allegations concerning Chokin's investigation, the confidential human source mentions Lozchewsky
29:46
Speaker 3: might have difficulty explaining suspicious wire transfers that may evidence
29:51
Speaker 3: any illicit payments to the Bidens. Slotchevsky responded that he
29:57
Speaker 3: did not send any funds directly to the quote big guy,
30:04
Speaker 3: same phrase used elsewhere yeah parentheses, which the confidential human
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Speaker 3: Source understood was a reference to Joe Biden. The Confidential
30:13
Speaker 3: Human Source asked s Lootchevsky how many companies Slash Bank
30:17
Speaker 3: accounts Zlotchevsky controls. Slotchevsky responded that it would take them
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Speaker 3: investigators ten years to find the records i e. Ilicit
30:31
Speaker 3: payments to Joe Biden. The confidential human source told Zlotchevsky
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Speaker 3: if he ever needed help in the future and wanted
30:38
Speaker 3: somebody in the US government to speak, wanted to speak
30:40
Speaker 3: to somebody in the US government about the matter, the
30:42
Speaker 3: confidential human source could introduce him to someone.
30:45
Speaker 2: Now to be queer, we asked James Comer about that quote,
30:49
Speaker 2: right that gen years. This was just the arrogance of
30:53
Speaker 2: not only the Bidens, but also Barisma. They thought that
30:56
Speaker 2: they had perfected this scheme. And to be clear, Senator,
31:02
Speaker 2: if Joe Biden would our hunter Biden, I should say,
31:05
Speaker 2: wouldn't have left his laptop, we probably wouldn't have known
31:09
Speaker 2: any of this. It was all because he left his laptop.
31:12
Speaker 2: And without that laptop, this scheme would have worked perfectly,
31:16
Speaker 2: This bribery would have worked.
31:18
Speaker 3: You know, it makes you wonder if Slotzewsky's dog was smarter. Yeah,
31:22
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think the dog left a laptop
31:25
Speaker 3: at a repair at a repair shop with all the
31:28
Speaker 3: incriminating information to.
31:29
Speaker 4: Be found well.
31:31
Speaker 2: And this brings up the other question, and I want
31:34
Speaker 2: to read between the lines here for a second. There
31:37
Speaker 2: was also one thing that James Comer said to us
31:40
Speaker 2: as we were sitting there last week, and he said,
31:43
Speaker 2: there's more and there's the other brother, and he mentioned
31:46
Speaker 2: the other brother, and he also said there's more money
31:48
Speaker 2: in other places that would be coming out that he believed.
31:51
Speaker 2: And the dollar amount keeps getting bigger and bigger and
31:53
Speaker 2: bigger that we think is coming out as well as
31:56
Speaker 2: we find more. I mean, is there any reason to
31:59
Speaker 2: believe that this wasn't happening, say, ten years ago, twelve
32:02
Speaker 2: years ago, fifteen years ago, twenty years ago with the Bidens,
32:05
Speaker 2: based on what we're witnessing now.
32:07
Speaker 3: With criminal conduct, if someone has a pattern, you expect
32:10
Speaker 3: the pattern to repeat it. And actually the next paragraph
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Speaker 3: of the FD ten twenty three shows that this was
32:17
Speaker 3: a way of doing business. Here's what the next paragraph
32:19
Speaker 3: says regarding the seemingly open and unsolicited admissions by Pojarski
32:25
Speaker 3: and Slotchevsky about the purpose for their retention of Hunter
32:29
Speaker 3: Biden and the forced payments Leotchevsky made to the Bidens.
32:33
Speaker 3: The confidential human source explained it is very common for
32:37
Speaker 3: businessmen in post Soviet countries to brag or show off. Additionally,
32:42
Speaker 3: is extremely common for businesses in Russia and Ukraine to
32:47
Speaker 3: make bribe payments to various government officials. The confidential human
32:52
Speaker 3: source noted that in corporate budgets for other Russian and
32:56
Speaker 3: Ukrainian businesses which the confidential human source had inspected the past,
33:01
Speaker 3: the confidential human source observed budget line items in Russian
33:07
Speaker 3: called podmazat, which literally translates to quote oil, lubricate or
33:16
Speaker 3: make things run smoothly end quote, which companies routinely use
33:22
Speaker 3: to account for anticipated bribe payments as ser business. Given
33:30
Speaker 3: the pervasive necessity to bribe government officials in Ukraine and Russia,
33:36
Speaker 3: the confidential human source did not perceive Pojarski or Zlotchevsky's
33:40
Speaker 3: statements to be unusual, self serving, or protextual. Additionally, regarding
33:45
Speaker 3: important business meetings, it is also common in Ukraine or
33:48
Speaker 3: Russia for persons to make covert recordings. However, the confidential
33:54
Speaker 3: human source has only met Zlochevsky in person on one occasion,
33:57
Speaker 3: has only spoken to him twice on the telephone. As such,
34:01
Speaker 3: the confidential human source is not able to provide any
34:04
Speaker 3: further opinion as to the veracity of slotchevsky aforementioned statements,
34:10
Speaker 3: but it says right after that. On June twenty ninth,
34:14
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, the Confidential Human Source provided the following supplemental
34:18
Speaker 3: reporting regarding the Confidential Human sources. Aforementioned reporting that s
34:23
Speaker 3: Loozchewsky said, quote, he has many text messages and recordings
34:28
Speaker 3: that shows he was coerced to make such payments. The
34:32
Speaker 3: Confidential Human Source clarified that Zlochewsky said he had a
34:37
Speaker 3: total of seventeen recordings involving the bidens.
34:42
Speaker 2: Now the require that coerce, and I think that's an
34:45
Speaker 2: important point we have to make. He's saying he recorded
34:48
Speaker 2: these center because he was being coerced to make these payments.
34:51
Speaker 2: The only person you could argue that would be able
34:53
Speaker 2: to coerce him to make these payments would actually be
34:56
Speaker 2: the Bidence.
34:57
Speaker 3: Well, he says he has seventeen recordings involved the bidens.
35:00
Speaker 3: He says two of the recordings included Joe Biden, and
35:03
Speaker 3: the remaining fifteen recordings only included Hunter Biden.
35:09
Speaker 4: The Confidential Human.
35:10
Speaker 3: Source reiterated that Perslochevsky these recordings evidence Loocheesky was somehow
35:15
Speaker 3: coerced into paying the Bidens to ensure Ukraine Prosecutor General
35:20
Speaker 3: Victor Shoken was fired. Slochevsky stated he has two documents
35:26
Speaker 3: which the confidential human source understood to be wire transfer statements,
35:30
Speaker 3: bank records, et cetera, that evidence some payments to the
35:33
Speaker 3: Bidens were made, presumably in exchange for Shokn's firings.
35:40
Speaker 2: Keeping these records, Senator is from his perspective, is not
35:44
Speaker 2: He doesn't seem to have an issue with it. In fact,
35:47
Speaker 2: it's his insurance policy keeping these records. He's he's happy
35:52
Speaker 2: to know that the Bidens took his money, because then
35:55
Speaker 2: if he ever gets in trouble, it's like, well, look
35:57
Speaker 2: what I have.
35:59
Speaker 4: That It makes perfect sense.
36:01
Speaker 3: Look, the only question is is what this guy is
36:06
Speaker 3: saying credible. We have been told in the past we
36:10
Speaker 3: don't know who this confidential human source is. We've been
36:13
Speaker 3: told in the past that this source is someone the
36:16
Speaker 3: FBI had relied on and found credible previously, that they
36:20
Speaker 3: had they had experience with this source, and that he
36:23
Speaker 3: had been reliable. We don't know the details about that,
36:27
Speaker 3: But we also don't know when I interrogated the Deputy
36:33
Speaker 3: director of the FBI about this FD'D ten twenty three.
36:36
Speaker 3: He refused to acknowledge it existed. He refused to give
36:38
Speaker 3: it to the Senate Judiciary Committee. He refused to confirm
36:41
Speaker 3: the seventeen voice recordings. He refused to say whether the
36:44
Speaker 3: FBI had the recordings. We don't know you. And I
36:47
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36:50
Speaker 3: said he thought they didn't because he thought they never
36:53
Speaker 3: bothered to investigate. We have no idea because the FBI
36:57
Speaker 3: is so damned arrogant that their answer is, how dare
37:01
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37:06
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37:08
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37:13
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37:15
Speaker 3: ought to come forward and say, in the face of
37:18
Speaker 3: these allegations, this is grave. This is alleging the sitting
37:23
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37:25
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37:35
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37:38
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37:40
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37:43
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37:49
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Speaker 4: Well, that's exactly right.
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Speaker 3: And the news that has just broken is that Biden
40:40
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40:46
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Speaker 3: so I can continually ask can I go and interview them?
41:04
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41:08
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41:11
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41:16
Speaker 3: Owens that we talked about that I wasn't allowed to
41:21
Speaker 3: go and interview. So yet again we now have a whistleblower.
41:27
Speaker 3: And remember Ziegler is a career IRS employee, he is
41:30
Speaker 3: a Democrat. There's no reason to think he has bias
41:33
Speaker 3: against Joe Biden, and he is alleging. Not only did
41:37
Speaker 3: they handcuff the investigation, not only did they protect Hunter Biden.
41:41
Speaker 3: Not only did they prevent any questions about Joe Biden
41:44
Speaker 3: the big guy, but they wouldn't allow any questions directed
41:49
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41:54
Speaker 3: day the allegations and the evidence of corruption against what
41:59
Speaker 3: is now the entire extended Biden family. I mean, it
42:02
Speaker 3: really is amazing when you're involving your brother, your sister,
42:06
Speaker 3: your kids, your grandkids, your your I mean, your entire
42:11
Speaker 3: extended family is involved in this operation to be on
42:15
Speaker 3: the take from, among others, the Chinese, the Ukrainians, the Romanians,
42:21
Speaker 3: and and as we broke news on on on the
42:25
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42:29
Speaker 3: as well the Biden family. There is evidence was receiving
42:34
Speaker 3: cash from China, Ukraine, Romania and Russia. You know, to
42:41
Speaker 3: to to to paraphrase, it's good to be a Biden.
42:45
Speaker 2: It is and and it's not just one Biden now,
42:49
Speaker 2: but it's two Bidens that the whistlebors have now said
42:51
Speaker 2: they were not allowed to interview. Remember it was Hunter
42:53
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42:55
Speaker 2: have to wait, you can't.
42:57
Speaker 3: You cant three and Joe and it's four and five
43:00
Speaker 3: because they weren't allowed to talk to the grandkids either.
43:03
Speaker 3: Even though they were getting money, they weren't allowed to
43:05
Speaker 3: ask the grandkids, well, gosh, what did you do to
43:07
Speaker 3: get this money?
43:07
Speaker 4: Nope, they weren't allowed to ask that.
43:09
Speaker 2: So, in other words, if your last name's Biden, you
43:11
Speaker 2: can do whatever the hell you want to and investigators
43:13
Speaker 2: come for you.
43:14
Speaker 1: They're not going to be allowed to do their job.
43:16
Speaker 2: That's what each and every one of these whistleblover seems
43:19
Speaker 2: to be saying over and over again. At least there's
43:21
Speaker 2: some consistency, Senator in that part of the story.
43:25
Speaker 4: It really makes you wonder, what the hell is gonna
43:28
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43:29
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Speaker 2: sharing it, we don't get to reach the same number
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Speaker 2: of people. It is incredible to see people taking the
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Speaker 2: intel we're giving them and making sure we fight back
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Speaker 2: against the media who refuses to cover all of this,
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Speaker 2: and don't forget. We do the show Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
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Speaker 2: We'll see you back here on Wednesday morning.