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- Scott Miller: folks and welcome to the Political Matrix News. I'm Scott Miller and this is my good friend and partner, Greg Think. We've been around the world of politics for about the last 30 years and have you know, intricately involved with, with political campaigns ⁓ the whole And our families come from politics. ⁓ we are steeped in culture of politics from the cradle. So, we're here to give you our perspective on today's events from the perspective of the guys. Greg Fink: ⁓ yeah. Yes I do. Scott Miller: behind the scenes, you know, not just the guys that are out there trying to make the news. We're the ones actually that, you know, construct a lot of these narratives. In the past, that was our job was constructing these narratives. Greg Fink: Yeah. Exactly. ⁓ yeah Yeah, I think I you didn't say for the cradle to the grave because we always have a grave near us yet Exactly. You did not that's very good ⁓ Yeah No, we're not but I think We haven't really got to talk too much today about what we're gonna talk about tonight but I do think that one thing we do need to start out with is that Ted to turn or die today and Scott Miller: I did not say grave because I ain't there yet. We are nowhere near. Yeah, I that. Greg Fink: As much as he might be a liberal Democrat, blah, blah, he was a media giant who basically paved the way for what we are doing today. He's the one that brought about the entire 24 hour news cycle with CNN and headline news. And then he brand, you know, his media networks and his media outlets. I you cannot take away the amount of nature he, his presence has in the industry and what he paved the way for back in the seventies and eighties, which is. ⁓ Scott Miller: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Greg Fink: I'm sure he's very proud of how it's going out today. Scott Miller: Well, I mean, yeah, it's my secret. didn't agree with him or his ex-wife. But, know, unlike I don't to agree with someone to recognize their value as a person. And he certainly, like you said, had a lot of world-changing accomplishments. So definitely someone who's worth recognizing, even if you don't agree with every single thing he ever said. Greg Fink: Exactly. ⁓ yeah. I mean, you might not be an Atlanta Braves fan, if you are, Turner had a lot to do with it. mean, he's really the guy who brought ⁓ to cable. I mean, between ⁓ WGN and TVS and Turner Broadcasting and everything and all the different. I mean, actually, he's the one that started the Sunshine Network with the sports here in Florida. And probably one of first media guys out there to realize the value that Florida has in the sports arena. Scott Miller: Mm-hmm. Greg Fink: and a very global and national and global scale. you know, not many other people put their necks out the way he did and invested in the communities and in the people for local media and sports media and political and news. I mean, just the entire gamut. I mean, from just feature films to documentaries. mean, you know, and the thing is that here's the difference between us and I saw about Ted. Scott Miller: Okay. Okay. Greg Fink: Turner dying is that whenever the Democrats talk about Rush Limbaugh dying, they were dancing on his grave and they were championing the fact that Rush was dead and they were, you know, it's horrifying. But I don't see any Republicans out there champion the fact that Ted Turner has passed away. I mean, he died at 87 years old. And what's the day? May 6th, the day after Cinco de Mayo. And so, I mean, you know, it's sad. We were praying for the family and... Scott Miller: ⁓ they're literally dancing on the grave, yeah. Breath. Greg Fink: I think he has definitely left a very big footprint that lot of people are going to have a hard time feeling. I Rupert Murdoch is working on it. And I think Rupert Murdoch is the heir apparent to Ted Turner. Scott Miller: Thanks. Yeah, well, when, when Rupert Murdoch dies, you know, the Democrats are going to do the exact same thing. They're going to, they're going to celebrate like, but you know, that's the thing that you do. And, and, and I'm not going to say that this is a broadly Democrat thing, but it certainly is a broadly Democrat thing in the media. Yeah. If there's a camera in front of them, they're, they're rushing to the camera. They will run over you to get in front of camera and to tell you how much. Greg Fink: ⁓ yeah, they're gonna gloat. No. It is. Scott Miller: They, you know, they hated any Republican figure that passed away. They are, I mean, they literally were celebrating the, the ⁓ camera of Charlie Kirk. Yeah. ⁓ mean, ⁓ ⁓ Ring cash register. ⁓ Bless hearts. ⁓ Greg Fink: Exactly. I'll have to make the register ring. So I mean, it's about fundraising. It is. But yeah, mean, we're praying for the family and ⁓ it's a sad news day for that, but we have a lot of other news out there. Scott Miller: Yeah. will just say that ⁓ way that they're behaving, celebration they have when one of these powerful Republican figure passes away is directly related to the fact that they didn't have arguments to counter him. They were excited to see Charlie Kirk go away because he would do the thing ⁓ that would crow about that they would do. The problem is when they do it, it's very performative. They hire people to be in the audience, to hire these shills to ask questions and they curate the audience so that it's nothing supporters. heaven ⁓ help Greg Fink: Right, and now we got Rudy Giuliani. He had to go to the hospital here recently. And once again, have Jimmy Kimmel making comments about Rudy. And I mean, this here, Jimmy Kimmel, who's a wonderful, wonderful talk show guy, I mean, that everybody loves so much. He's an awesome, incredible human being. ⁓ Anyway, ⁓ terrible. I mean, he cannot stop just picking on people on the right. Scott Miller: Yeah. He's terrible. Greg Fink: when they get sick or ill or wishing them death or wishing them harm. I mean, that's not comedy, guys, okay? mean, it's hate, it's victory all, and it's sad. Scott Miller: NERV Well, you know, and I said this from the first Jimmy Kimmel controversy, you know, even if you can get past the distaste of it, just the horrifically bad, you know, bad taste, even if you can get past all of that, the simple fact of the matter is, is that it's the same joke over and over and over again every single night. And after a while, it's just not funny anymore. Greg Fink: Yeah. Exactly. mean, once again, we talked about this when the first Jimmy Kimmel issue happened and I'll talk about it again, the hypocrisy. I mean, you have Roseanne Barr, you have several other people here who made comments about left-wing individuals, left-wing activists, and they weren't all that great comments. I mean, we didn't really endorse them. I mean, they weren't really all that funny, but we didn't go out there and ban them like the Democrats did. And the Democrats, you know, Basically, deplatformed them and silenced them. don't do the same thing. Granted, doing this to Jimmy Kimmel because he's encouraging death on people. ⁓ This not about jokes. This is about encouraging people's lives to end and making fun of it and making light of it and desensitizing people to where they don't have a problem going after people in that manner. Scott Miller: Okay. And fuck. What he does is he demonstrates the celebration that you will receive if you successfully, you know, murder one of these people. Yeah, so this is the sort of adulation you'll get if you do that. He's making it, this is the part of normalizing that behavior. And it's just reprehensible. You know, I don't want the man dead, but I'll just be glad when ABC, or is it CBS? forget. Greg Fink: Exactly. ABC. Scott Miller: ABC when ABC, you know, wises up to the simple business decision that he's not the guy for that slide. He is not funny anymore. Greg Fink: Yeah. No, mean Johnny Carson had a good point whenever he was interviewed a long time ago saying that whenever you start using your bullet pulpit and your talk show as a political hammer or political leverage, that's not what people signed up for. People signed up for comedy. They signed up to laugh. They signed up for non-judgmental ⁓ content. Scott Miller: regardless of that, that's not what the advertisers signed on for. The advertisers signed on to be able to with a certain audience. ⁓ job is to facilitate that. His job isn't to change the world or change America or call out people for good or bad behavior. His job is to attract an audience that will give the people who are paying him to be there value for the money that they're spending. ⁓ Greg Fink: No. Right. Scott Miller: And when you literally spit in the face of half of your audience, then why would anyone want, who's next? Why would an advertiser wanna go with you? Because it's just a moment before you get another harebrained idea to get rid of another audience, to spit in the face of another type of audience. Greg Fink: Right. Exactly. mean... Exactly, I mean, if you want to be in that kind of entertainment, like The Daily Show or Politically Incorrect or Bill Maher, or Real Time with Bill Maher, then that's a whole different thing. But when you're on a broadcast, you know, that taxpayer-funded channel, that's supposed to be broadcasted out to everybody and it's supposed to be enjoyed by the entire audience and it's being paid for by all of us. We all pay for it, I mean... Scott Miller: Hmm? Hmm? Greg Fink: It's not cable. It's not being paid for by advertisers and sponsors. It's being paid for. I mean, it's regulated by the FCC. I mean... Scott Miller: ⁓ no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But the company and the shareholders are the that he's screwing right and left. Greg Fink: Yeah. Exactly. Yeah, I mean he's screwing everybody pretty much. So I mean, he's making a show about his hate not a show about comedy and you know to reward that and how is continually rewarding that is just sick and weird. Scott Miller: Mm-hmm. know, people keep trying to send, people keep trying to have him investigated by the FCC. I think they should have ⁓ the investigated by the SEC for the horrific treatment of their investors. And I'm being dramatic that. I don't think that there's any legal basis for that, but it sure would be more appropriate. Greg Fink: Right. I also think it's funny how the Democrats are attacking the FCC for supporting, you know, or trying to carry the water for Trump, as if they did not understand exactly how this whole thing works. Every FCC chairman is appointed by a president, and every president appoints a FCC guy that is going to carry their water for them. And think the last 40-some-odd presidents, actually not 40, because we have FCC that far back, but you know what I mean. Scott Miller: Mm-hmm. Greg Fink: I mean anybody that appoints the FCC chairman, he's usually doing it at, you know, the direction of the executive branch. He's a member of the executive branch. He's an appointee. mean, mean, yeah, I'm sorry. get over it, guys. Scott Miller: Well, I don't want to don't want to I don't want to validate the know, the the political nature of it. The simple fact of the matter is, that is that any FCC director that's doing their job is going to keep people like that, you know, is going to at least take their licensees to task. And a condition of their license is that they serve the community and how you can how you can defend his behavior as serving the community is is it's Greg Fink: Yeah. I mean, in reality here, back when we had Obama or Biden, the FCC chairman were going after right-wing media all the time and nobody seemed to ⁓ to you who's about it. They were trying to get rid of talk radio. They were trying to regulate free all over the place. mean, podcasts like this were not allowed hardly at all or pushed down or quieted very And by them controlling the media outlets and telling them, Scott Miller: I mean, it simply is. Greg Fink: what they can and can't do. mean we have so much suppression that is organized by the left-wing government whenever they were in charge in the executive branch and people seem to forget about that. Scott Miller: Yes. I still don't understand why there hasn't been widespread, frankly almost class action lawsuits at this point for the violation our rights that ⁓ Biden administration conducted. Greg Fink: Right. Scott Miller: you know, can frankly, I think the government ought to pay them for it. I mean, and would I would happily forgo anything that I was owed because I promise you I was owed plenty. But I would forgo any all of it if they would hold anyone accountable for that. Greg Fink: Exactly. Scott Miller: Because it's not about the money, it's about the rights. Greg Fink: Exactly, and that's actually, going back to Ted Turner, that's one thing that he was a champion of, he was actually one of the Democrats who championed free speech, and was against censorship and against all of that, that's, and we miss that a lot. Scott Miller: Hmm? Well, you notice the Democrats crow a lot more about free speech when they're out of power. Greg Fink: What do do? ⁓ Scott Miller: I mean, but when they're in power, don't even know what those words mean. Greg Fink: No, in fact, I mean, we have the mayor of New York who's trying to hire protesters to help, you know, as he put it, encourage free speech, but he's basically hiring them to intimidate people and to target and basically target or target ⁓ any that is not going along with his operation of the New York City way of life. Scott Miller: Mm-hmm. Yeah. And you know, what I want to point out about that, about that whole system, that the crowds on demand thing that ⁓ those guys really do is, I, I can't say, I can't say all of them like that. know crowds on demand is, is one that is reasonably straightforward in the product that they offer, which is basically, you know, when you really boil it down, it's just a, it's just a, a payroll center people who are activists. to get paid. want to you're passionate activist, you want to go out and support a but you can't draw your own audience. So basically, they will recruit you to be an employee of theirs, and they'll go put you out there on causes that you you know, that you support. So so to a degree, it's genuine. It's just that they're basically providing monetary support for that to people who want crowd, but their crowd would have to be at work at the time they want to have the crowd. Greg Fink: Right. ⁓ Scott Miller: And so they're basically paying them. I get that. mean, you know, the... That's debatable as to the right or wrong. I can see both sides of people saying Greg Fink: No, yeah, but the crowds that are the definite wrong are the ones who are destroying property. The ones who are, yeah, exactly. It's a different crowd. And that's what people are conflating and they're confusing and they're saying, ⁓ it's all the same. It's all the same kind of protesters and it's not. I mean, the people who are violating rights, who are hurting people, who are shooting up people, who are seizing sheriff's departments and police departments and police stations, that's not cool. Scott Miller: But you see, that's a very different thing. now. Greg Fink: that's not the way it's supposed to be. That's not protesting, that's violence. And people want to just throw, I mean, it's kind of like the January 6th thing. mean, you know, that was not a violent issue like everybody says it is, especially when you compare it to the hundreds of different protests that the Democrats and the left wing have had before, during, and since, where they result in killing people and now granted. Scott Miller: There. That is violence. Greg Fink: All right, if you talk to most Democrats or see a lot of Democrat podcasts, you almost are now on unison saying these are all contrived and all fake. Like I heard that the attempted shooter of the White House Correspondents' was now set up by Trump and it was all his idea. And he helped write the manifesto or his people there. I mean, the psychology of these people is just sick depressed and sad. It is. ⁓ Scott Miller: Well, what else are they going to say? Well, it's not sick, it's desperate. I mean, painted themselves into a corner. The just didn't work. ⁓ I out a little post today that is kind of an embroidered patch of a donkey with the words under it. We specialize in the wrong of 80-20 issues, which has become their MO. Greg Fink: Right. Scott Miller: for the last six years and it's driving their downward trend. And it puts them on these ill-advised things like these redistricting It's just stupid. Greg Fink: Push it. for sure. think that would be a very good t-shirt. Scott Miller: Yeah, it would. Maybe we should do that and put it in a merch shop. That'd be great. We should do that. Greg Fink: Yeah, we might do that. I mean, it's very frustrating how everybody is out there just trying to seize on, I mean, it doesn't really matter what it is anymore. There's no decency at all. And seizing on the Iran war issue. They're seizing on this. They're seizing on that. I granted, I'm all that happy about the Iran war. I think it should have been over already. I have no idea what the heck's going on. But being said, I'll say is like I said before, we're not there. We're not privy to the information. We don't have the intel and we're just two guys here in Florida. And being said, mean, I trust the governments can do the best thing they can here to destroy terrorism and get rid of it and to fix it. I do wish it were done quicker. I wish it were done better and faster, maybe it is what it is and maybe it's going to work out great and you know. Scott Miller: I don't know, you know, I think a lot of Republicans, you know, reluctance in this is because they're afraid of what it's going to do to the, know, the political power we've recently just basically come into. And they're so worried that the Democrats are going to be able to do something that makes traction out of it, that ⁓ just really looking at it. Greg Fink: Yeah. I'm not worried about that. Yeah, exactly. Scott Miller: The fact of the matter is, that Trump is playing this, these guys like a song and they are very soon, very soon going to run out of places to store oil. That is the real ticking clock because when they run out of places to put oil, then they have to start shutting down oil wells oil wells don't like to be shut down. Sometimes you shut them down. They never come back. And, so they're going to start. this is going to permanently damaging their oil fields. And that point, there's just to go. Greg Fink: Right. So I mean, you know, it's mean, we're going to see what's going on. mean, it's... We're in too deep. mean, the ceasefire thing, I mean, I get that it needs to happen quickly. I do get confused by seeing media reports today about them shooting missiles and everything in the street of Hormuz and... ⁓ Scott Miller: wow, what, you're telling me that the Iranians are breaking a ceasefire or are breaking their word? Shut up! Greg Fink: Yes. ⁓ yeah, somebody told me a couple days ago that Obama had a really good deal with the Iranians. I'm like, yes, he did, if they would keep their word. But I don't think there is any such deal that is a good deal with the Iranian government because they're not going to keep their word. Scott Miller: He didn't have anything that even started to look like a good idea, a good deal. Because part of that deal was giving them billions of dollars, which they immediately started funneling into terror networks around the world. Greg Fink: Yeah, because trusting them to do the right thing is not a good trust. Scott Miller: don't want the same things that we want. They don't want the same sorts of things that we want. I mean, ⁓ not saying that there are no Iranians that do. There are plenty of Iranians who are trapped there in that country that do want it. But the people who are holding boot on the ⁓ neck these people, they don't want the same things we want. They want to protect their power. They want to amplify their power. It's nothing what we want. Greg Fink: The people are fine, yeah. Yeah, and because we said from the very beginning, and I wish we could do this, and I hope we can, is that unless you do regime change and replace all of it, this is just kicking the can down the road. Scott Miller: No, I don't know. you know what? I know some of our friends think that. I don't ⁓ so. I think so at all. It depends on what state you leave them in. Greg Fink: Yeah, I I don't think we should leave them in the state they're in right now, that's for sure. Scott Miller: If at the end of the day, you you got the same people in charge, but their oil fields have completely collapsed and they've got no way to generate revenue, then they're just folks wandering around the desert. Greg Fink: That's not bad at all. on a walk. ⁓ a walk in the park. Scott Miller: Yeah, that is my favorite riddle, isn't it? What do call a leader with no followers? A guy taking a walk. Greg Fink: Exactly. And that's what they are. They're going be taking a walk through the desert with nobody following them. And so... Scott Miller: Yep. Well, they won't have the money to pay the army now. Greg Fink: No they don't. I do, I am confused on how they still have missiles left. I thought we should have taken out all the missiles by now but... Scott Miller: So, ⁓ Well, mean, you you got a couple stuffed in some random corner over here. So, you know, some of them maybe were salvage that they hit were maybe salvageable, you know, I mean, there's a lot of things. Greg Fink: Yeah. Yeah. I do like how Trump was trying to get South Korea to jump in because Iran jumped a South Korean ship and attacked that. And I don't know if South Korea is going to bite and jump in or not because ... Scott Miller: don't know if Trump needs them to ⁓ jump in militarily. I mean, he'd like them to. I'm not saying that he wouldn't, but I don't think that he needs them to. ⁓ think what he needs for them to do is to rattling same saber wheel. Greg Fink: I don't think so. ⁓ yeah. ⁓ yeah, definitely. They need to start economically destroying anybody who works with Iran, period. ⁓ I think that's ⁓ thing our allies could actually do more so than the military support need. We need economic support to make sure that any kind of trade or any kind of work being done with these countries who are funding, endorsing, and supporting terrorism stops. Scott Miller: Exactly. ⁓ problem that we're going to have over there as far as the regime goes is that there's no one over there with sufficient power who's also not a corrupt ⁓ ⁓ Greg Fink: Yeah, you do have that issue. mean, you have other people, but would it be better? Scott Miller: Yeah. Yeah. Are we just trading one for the other? is the solution just to ⁓ to make them irrelevant to the conversation? If they don't have oil, if just going to take the money they make off of oil and use to an additional, you know, of terror, then ⁓ just take out their field. What's going on right now is we and the rest of the world. are, frankly, the rest of the oil producing nations in the world are our capacity to deliver right now. It won't be long until the oil that Iran was producing is replaced on market already, probably by redeveloping the Venezuela fields. Greg Fink: Exactly. are impatient. Nobody's happy with 458 gas and nobody's happy with all that stuff. And we get all that. Scott Miller: You know, how happy were you with $6 a gallon gas? Because that's what it was under Biden. Greg Fink: Yeah, exactly. Nobody was happy with that either. But the reality here is as much as it seems like it's been six months or a year, it's only been two months. I mean, it's only just been over 60 days. I mean, in the incubation stage here. mean, this thing has only just begun. Scott Miller: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean, they were shooting off 100 missiles a day for a while, and now they're down to one or two every couple of days. Greg Fink: It's kind of like the border. It's kind you know, we let people run over the border here for four years of Biden and Trump let it happen for like three or four days. Scott Miller: Hmm? Greg Fink: Granted that was quick, but we went through four years of hell with that We fixed it. I mean, it's there's no quick fix to this but you know ⁓ thing is it's a long story Scott Miller: Yeah, well, it certainly didn't get messed up in a day. It didn't get messed up in 60 days. This has been building for 50 years of incomplete mismanagement. ⁓ And it was mostly us allowing Soviets and other forces help prop these guys and to encourage these guys to behave this way. Greg Fink: No we didn't. Scott Miller: mean, ⁓ a long time, they were really more of a Soviet proxy than they were anything else. And they learned how to develop proxies from the Soviets. And they went away and they just took the mantle. And the Russians are right there with them because they know that anything they do that occupies the Americans takes away times that the Americans can focus on them. Greg Fink: Right. Mm-hmm. And then I started working with China and... Exactly. And it goes back to the show game. It's kind like the big game of risk. The big old board game. mean, you you a little decoy over here, you got a little decoy over there, that's, you know, that's, that's, they're playing everybody against each other so they can get more done and their evil nature in the back end. And we just got to stop that. That's what we're doing. We're putting an end to it. And is it pretty? It's not pretty at all. It's not going to be pretty. War isn't pretty. Scott Miller: Well... Well, Trump teaching them how to play a new game. Greg Fink: Exactly. Read the art of the deal. I read, I mean, and realize that I say this a lot on the show, that what he says is not what he's doing. And that's not a slam on him saying the quintessential call that all politicians are liars. No. Yes, well, a lot of politicians are liar. But, you know, this is called negotiation. This is how you negotiate. This is how you build coalitions. You give 50 % here, 30 % there. and 20 % there and I'm talking about information. You don't show all your cards. You don't just say, hey, you know, here's my cards. I mean, we've tried that before. We've done that for the last 50 years. It has gotten us nowhere. It's gotten us where our enemies know everything that's gonna happen because I a big fan of the media being embedded with the military back during the 90s and everything else. ⁓ the transparency was great. However, the intel people that I worked with when I was in the Air Force hated it. And there's a reason why they hated it because you're basically broadcasting everything you're doing before it's being done. And we have kept that mantra. We've kept that mode. We've kept the operation going for 40 some odd years. you're just saying that you can't do that. You cannot broadcast what you're going to be doing. And that being said, whenever we have people say that, you know, they want to know exactly what President Trump is going to do, we don't. did not want to know exactly what he's going to do. We went. to know what he's going to say and that's entertaining and that's fine but I just want to see what he's actually going to do. How to say he's going to do it. know, the actions speak louder than words. Scott Miller: Well, I'll tell you, with regard to that, I really with what Marco Rubio has been saying about the War Powers Act. Because he pointed and I think very aptly, that the War Powers Act is unconstitutional on its face. Because it literally takes powers that the Constitution delegated to the President and makes contingent on approval from Congress. And that's not what the Constitution says. Greg Fink: It is. Exactly. Scott Miller: It's not that I don't think that there's an element of transparency that's important, because there certainly is. But it's not something that you can do, you can just circumvent with a statute. You just can't. Greg Fink: Right. I mean, you can't fight a war by telling everybody how it's going to be. I guess my point is that we used to have a patriotic Congress. We used to have a Congress that put America first and put the citizens first. We don't now. We have a Congress that cut a deal for money. We have members in the Congress who will go tell somebody else or leak information or leak this or leak that. And we don't have a leak-proof Congressional delegation anymore. We just don't. Scott Miller: Hmm? Well, the problem is that they're desperate. I mean, you have an element of the government that is desperate to hold on to power. All the 80-20 issues they've been on the wrong side of for the last 10 years are coming home to roost on these guys. And if it takes... Greg Fink: I mean, exactly. How about power? Scott Miller: in their mind, if it takes sabotaging something that Trump is doing to make him look bad, ⁓ worth the damage to America because we'll make it up because we're, you know, we're the most powerful country on earth and we can make it up. Well, eventually you can't because you eventually run, the momentum will tip in such a way that, I mean, you may eventually stop. It's like a runaway train. You may get that train to stop, but not before it has dam, it has rolled over all kinds of stuff. Greg Fink: Right. And I hate hearing all this consternation complaints about Trump is just undoing everything Biden did and Trump is just undoing everything Obama did. I'm like, yeah, that's kind of how the game works, guys. Just to let you know, Biden undid everything. Go ahead. Scott Miller: What was that quote? What was that quote from Obama? elections have consequences. Greg Fink: Yes, I do. Obama did a lot of things on purpose, just out of spite that Bush did. Bush did it to Clinton. Clinton did it to the other Bush. Reagan did it to Carter. I mean, guys, it's the way it works. mean... Scott Miller: Well, that's the way it did work. You know, after these midterms, I don't know if it's ever going to work that way again. Greg Fink: These midterms are going to be interesting because we have so many new districts being drawn where the Democrats were guaranteed to take over and impeach Trump police two more times wreck the economy and just basically give everything away to all other countries. And I now because the districts are being drawn based off population census and not based on segregation and racism, what a thought. a thought. We're taking racism. We're taking racism out of politics. Scott Miller: What a POT Greg Fink: You know, it's basically you're telling people that, you know, actually matter. It's not about, you know, just, you know, being split up and being against each other. We have to be integrated. And are a melting pot. And people who, and we're not against immigration. Immigrants who are here legally are fine. It's all the, you know, ones who are not following the rules. And everybody is against that. And everybody really knows they really are. Scott Miller: Mm-mm. Greg Fink: I mean, just a way, I mean, just wake up to history. Scott Miller: Wake up to history for sure. You know, I mean, but like all these new districts, you know, and I told you a couple of weeks ago that this Virginia thing wasn't over. And it's Greg Fink: ⁓ no, it's just the beginning. Scott Miller: And I think it's not just beginning. I think it's just about to end because, you know, the reason that judge, who everyone is so dismissive of, he was a low-level judge. Well, he may be a lower-level judge, but that doesn't make him wrong. And the reasons that he blocked the certification of that vote was because, I mean, probably one... There were three reasons that are all codified in the Virginia constitution. Probably the most glaring was the fact that there is a requirement for that kind of a vote and that kind of a bill that there be an intervening election, which means that you have to, for the first vote, it has to happen and then it has to be successful on that. And then there has to be an intervening election and then you can have another vote. And it takes two steps to do it. They just skipped that middle vote entirely. You can't skip steps that are codified in the constitution. the regulations, administrative procedures and stuff like that, you can corners here and there and you can go argue in front of the judge, maybe it'll work out. But when it's a foundationally constitutional thing that was entirely constructed to be a... Greg Fink: Exactly. Scott Miller: you know, protection against just, you know, the whims of people who are vulnerable to get their passions inflamed and make crazy decisions with their constitution. Greg Fink: Right? Which happens, like with referendums, by the way. Scott Miller: Frankly, it's the reason that Florida went to a super majority for their constitutional changes because they were putting things in the constitution like bullet trains. I'm like, are you out of your rabbit mind? Yeah, for 80 miles of track, exactly. Greg Fink: Exactly. 480 miles of property exactly in a state like Florida, which is huge. Scott Miller: They put the funding of some kind of pig research in the Constitution. I mean, it is just the dumbest thing that I've ever heard. Greg Fink: Yeah, well, that's constitutional though. It is. But what I'm excited about is that, you know, all these states here are redrawing. I mean, at the end of the day, Virginia might have to redraw again, off the Constitution, based off the Supreme Court's decision. And then Tennessee is redrawing. And then, I mean, Georgia is. Scott Miller: Well, Virginia is not going to have to redraw again. They're just not going to get this new map implemented. So we will retain the five congressmen that we have in Virginia. And frankly, I think it's a fairly reasonable map for Virginia because it's reasonably representative of the of their state. It ⁓ reflects the way that their state would want them to vote. The problem is that the Democrats have gerrymandered so many of their states. Greg Fink: We are. Scott Miller: None of the 13 original colonies, one of them has a Republican congressman. They're all blue congressmen. And despite fact that, you know, the worst margin in there is 60-40, you know, Democrat to Republican. And California, California has squeezed them all out. All of these deep ⁓ blue have gerrymandered There are little hearts out, so they've got everything that there is to get. The Republicans, on the other hand, have a brand new slate of districts coming up, and a very real possibility they'll wind up with a 30 seat majority coming out of the midterms. Greg Fink: Yeah, like the Sanis went hand-in-hand with the law of the new map here in Florida, which basically increases the Republican chances by a net four if they actually put together a good campaign and win. ⁓ Scott Miller: no, they're win because they got four real red seats now and ⁓ one up. And one up. Greg Fink: Well, yeah, I mean, facetious. exactly. so, mean, and then Louisiana, ⁓ course, has theirs, Tennessee is doing theirs. And I hear ⁓ I guess, Michigan, they're looking at voter fraud in the Democrat primary. I thought that was funny because everybody keeps telling me that voter fraud is not real, but they are having people who are voting in the Democrat primary in Michigan. Scott Miller: What? Greg Fink: that did not live there, that were not there, that were not residents who, it's very, very bizarre that you got Democrat elected officials who are now angry at the Democrat party for voter fraud. Well, they're actually not calling it voter fraud. They're calling it voter irregularities. They don't want to use that demon word, voter fraud. They want to use the word voter irregularities or voter anomalies. And they are saying illegal voting, but they're not saying a voter fraud. Scott Miller: No. bonus. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Greg Fink: And it's a torture zone. It's a huge torture zone. I guys, I mean, we have, you know, like we said at the beginning of show, we've been doing this for 30 years and we're just two little daisies in a very big field. There are thousands of consultants all over the country who know the reality and know the truth. They've all seen it. And they're gaslighting all you guys by saying, oh, there's no fraud, there's nothing. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh, come on. Scott Miller: Exactly. Greg Fink: It's everywhere and you have to A, figure out how to overcome it and B, call it out whenever you see it and quit just allowing it to happen. Scott Miller: Well, you know, the fact is, that, ⁓ thing that people don't appreciate, everyone's so focused in on these federal elections, but what is all politics? Local. And what they don't understand is, is far reaching consequences of decision is it extends right down ⁓ to the level. Greg Fink: local. Scott Miller: in my home county in Escambia County, we have a minority access district. the that that's going to be redistricted at least in the next five years is I think pretty high because they've had contort every time they've done a redistricting, they've had to contort things in such a way, you know, to try to accommodate this federally mandated thing. And I don't mean like they just saw a law and said, we've got to Greg Fink: Mm-hmm. Scott Miller: comply with that law. There was a lawsuit, when was it, in the 70s or 80s? the 70s that compelled the creation of that district. And now that's out the window. these and these counties where they used ⁓ to to do ⁓ what to gerrymandering, all that's going away and we're gonna start getting Greg Fink: And a 72. A 72, yeah. Scott Miller: districts drawn to represent the people that live there, like people in the coast, people in the farmland, people in the cities. Greg Fink: Right. And actually, mean, for those who are not familiar with that part of us, Canberra County, if you actually drive through that part, it's not a predominantly segregated community anymore. a very, you have a lot of different races living all over the region. So, I mean, the time of, you know, like we said before, the whole segregation is not in existence anymore geographically and residentially. And so the voting district should not, you know, mirror something that's not real. Scott Miller: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's the thing, segregation has been gone for a long time. need to stop taking the cure. At some point, you you got to stop taking the cough syrup, you know, because when you stop coughing anywhere after a while, you're just drinking the codeine. Greg Fink: It's a mirror reality. You That's a good way to put it. But yeah, and so, I mean, it's going to be an interesting midterm election cycle here. I mean, we are at the very beginning of it here. We have several primaries coming up. And it's going to be a whirlwind to sit back and watch because you have a lot of elections who are being delayed and being halted because of the redistricting, because of the Supreme Court decision. And hey, you know, it's good for the goose and good for the gander. Believe me, guys. Scott Miller: Mm-hmm. Greg Fink: If the Democrat Supreme Court was stacked you know, Republicans would probably be just as upset, granted. But that's just really the way it is. I'd like to further up with Tip O'Neill saying that all politics is local. I also have a feeling that all corruption is local as well. That's just me throwing it out there. And, prove me Leave a comment and tell us that, you know, people are not being bought. Yeah, on a local level. Scott Miller: ⁓ I don't think we've seen a county that we haven't seen corruption in. mean, we tell you, and that's the problem, corruption is kind of like a magic trick. trick. If you can't explain how it's happening, then it must be magic or it's not happening. Did it happen? how did he do that? How did he do that? I don't know, but the money's gone. ⁓ Greg Fink: Did it really exist? I mean, if a tree fell in a forest and nobody was there to hear it, did it make a sound? I mean, it's very frustrating. Scott Miller: Yeah. Yeah, like I said, I don't have to explain the trick to understand the money's not there. the bank was robbed. I have to tell you how they got away. I just know that it happened because I had money there one day. Today I don't have it. It's gone, ⁓ you ⁓ Greg Fink: Exactly. Yeah. And so, mean, it's, you know, something we, everybody has to keep an eye on. And going to be a very interesting, like I said, election cycle. But yeah. Well, you got anything else? Scott Miller: I don't know, we may be able to get enough of a super majority Congress and the House and this, you know, probably the Senate. That's the one stable thing in all this is, you you can't really get the Senate out there because there's no districts on the Senate. But what I will say is that what will affect the Senate are these local races, because one of the local races that can be affected is the supervisors of elections. Greg Fink: Right. ⁓ it is. the incumbents and those ⁓ stay pretty hard, but I don't know if they're as secure as they used to be. Scott Miller: Well, I don't think they're going to be as secure. Well, number one, we have, start seeing all these voting irregularities and after people start to realize, start to realize that they are real. Well, who the heck are you going to hold accountable if not the supervisor of the elections? They have one job, one job. Greg Fink: No. Yeah, I mean... Yeah, it's just to keep everything going straight. But in order to do that, there has to be a lot of compliance and lot of accountability and a lot of people actually pointing it out and watching it and realizing that it is real. mean, and you just got to pay attention to it. Now know the algorithm and YouTube is not going to like us talking about this right now. So for this segment here, just share it as much as you can. But you got anything else you want to talk about today? Scott Miller: Yeah, please, please. No, think was ⁓ about today, but there's not a whole lot else, that I've, you know, once we got through Virginia and stuff like that, I think the whole thing is basically about to wrap. Greg Fink: I think so. do think hopefully the ceasefire will actually work with Iran and I think it's interesting that they're actually reviewing what we sent them. I I have no idea whether or not they're surrendering but I get it. know they're a sovereign country and blah blah blah but you know they're not gonna win. Scott Miller: Or not surrendering because they got no place to go. Greg Fink: I guess there's a point. But there should. Scott Miller: Well, I mean, you think about it. They've spent 50 years building a position, painting himself into a corner. And now how do they walk out of it? Greg Fink: Alive. Scott Miller: Well, you would hope, but you know, but there are actually plenty of the IRGC people who are true believers, who you believe what the ayatollah has told them that, you know, that they're going to be kings and, you know, and have 72 virgins and blah, blah, whatever. So, so they are, they are buying into it, you know, and probably, probably mostly because these people have been traumatized from childhood. I mean, I mean, it's, it's truly a form of abuse. Greg Fink: Yeah. Yeah, What the hell, yeah. Scott Miller: and it gets passed down from generation to generation. ⁓ going to be hard for these guys ⁓ disconnect them. What we to send over there is a bunch of one of those cult programmers. Greg Fink: Jimmy Buffett used to have a good idea. He had a song and he said we should just drop a whole bunch of leaflets of magazines and cards and Americanization and just drop it out of the plane to the people of the community and get them to step up and realize what they're missing. Scott Miller: Well, I think what we ought to do is, Trump has said, bomb them back to the Stone Age. they want to, I mean, already, they already have ⁓ a Stone Age culture. They might as well have a Stone Age technology. Greg Fink: Exactly. existence. mean, and this is not us talking about the people of Iran. Actually, the citizens, the regular people, are good people who do not support the terrorists. Now, the people who support the terrorists, they are, well, not good people. If you support killing people on a mass level, that would make you a, am I being a bad person? Scott Miller: up a gun. Pick up a gun, kill your government. Greg Fink: Yeah, and so I mean we support the people who want to stand up against the terrorists and against the theocracy and against the theocratic evil nature of this government and those are the people who we support and who we want to help and so I mean yeah we talk about bombing to the stone age we're talking about the government and the military we're not talking about the entire populace of Iran. So let's clarify that. Scott Miller: I don't want to turn it into a sheet of glass. I want to do is take away their ability, whatever it takes to take away their ability to do the things that they've been doing for the last 50 years. If they want to run that sort of culture inside their country, there are plenty of countries just like them that are just as oppressive. We can't fix everybody. But what we can do is take away their ability to export it. Greg Fink: I dare you to that. We also need to take away the ability control the straight form moves. We need to take away that ability altogether. ⁓ Scott Miller: Well, that's going to take about three years of developing enough pipelines to make the straight But again, it's not going to matter as soon as the oil fields Venezuela are fully developed and the oil in Iran are destroyed ⁓ by their inaction. Greg Fink: Because Venezuela has more oil than Iran and people don't realize that. Scott Miller: Yeah, well, Venezuela's got way more. I'm way more happy with Venezuela than anyone else because they have far more potential outside. They on a vertical trajectory. It's taken some time to kind of get them turned around. ⁓ And like the way that Trump left some of the old government in there because he them in there for control but insists on future elections. Greg Fink: What's going to? Scott Miller: and are certifiable elections, because the people will get to decide. If he had, if he'd kicked out the entire government, we'd still be fighting down there. Now, now what doing is we're slow walking them to an epiphany. Greg Fink: It will be. Exactly. This was a good walk. Scott Miller: I truly believe that 50 years from now that North, Central and South America are going to be so fully integrated and prosperous that we'll wonder why we ever bothered with the Chinese or cared with the Russians thought or did. Greg Fink: I agree. That's the way it should be. Okie doke. So I guess we'll go ahead and call it a day here. This is May 6th of 2026 and y'all say too we're going to have some special guests on with us next week hopefully. find us in any platform you can find us on. Follow us, like us, share and have a good evening. Goodnight Scott. Scott Miller: All right, guys, good night.