Latest / In Focus with Carolyn Hutcheson / Birding Tours - TPR's In Focus - June 3, 2026
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- 0:00Support comes from Troy University's Trojan Cafe, offering handcrafted Starbucks beverages and a wide assortment of meal and snack options located on Troy University's Montgomery campus across from the Rosa Parks Library and Museum.
- 0:14From Troy Public Radio, this is In Focus and I'm Carolyn Hutcheson.
- 0:21A few years ago, Christopher Joe noticed that Mississippi Kites and Swallowtail Kites were visiting his West Alabama family farm in large numbers.
- 0:33Today, he leads birding tours on that farm and in Montgomery.
- 0:38He recently joined us at Old Alabama Town to talk about his favorite subject.
- 0:44Christopher Joe, welcome to Troy Public Radio.
- 0:54It's a pleasure to be with you today. Thank you.
- 0:57Where are we?
- 0:58We are here at Lucas Tavern in Montgomery, Alabama, and this is a spot that I recently started to do bird walks with the Old Alabama Town through Landmarks Foundation.
- 1:09And we just invite people to come down Saturday mornings and get some fresh air, but also to see what birds we can find.
- 1:15And it's really taken off. So this is going on my second year with them doing that.
- 1:20What is interesting is that you're making these bird walks available in an urban setting.
- 1:27And I think that's the biggest key is showing people that things are right around you.
- 1:31And I call it putting on the right glasses to see that there are birds right around you.
- 1:36And then when I take photos and I show people, they're like, where are you?
- 1:40And I'm like, I'm right here in Montgomery.
- 1:42Join me when I have these walks. And also I go to Lagoon Park for biking and birding.
- 1:47How is that working?
- 1:49It is going well, and we're trying to pitch that activity to folks at the city and try to get an event going to where a lot of people want to get outdoors.
- 1:57And they have bikes and just nice trails.
- 2:00And I think that if you have a good bike, we can help you ride that around there and also show you birds, too.
- 2:06So that's a good thing.
- 2:08How did you get interested in birds to begin with?
- 2:11And that's the funny thing. I grew up on a we raised Black Angus cattle.
- 2:15I'm from New Bern, Alabama. It's over in West Alabama.
- 2:18And what we've done on our family farm, I'm third generation.
- 2:22We've been raising Black Angus cattle my entire life.
- 2:25And I have two older brothers and a younger sister.
- 2:27So growing up on the farm, we noticed nature and we would go out and explore.
- 2:32But I really didn't get into bird watching until probably 2018.
- 2:37So it's something to show to other people that, yeah, you can get into this anytime and see nature from a different perspective.
- 2:44You have quite a fancy, is it camera?
- 2:48I also do birding photography.
- 2:51I invested in, I call it my bird tech.
- 2:54And right now I still sell photos to people needing pictures of birds.
- 3:00And this is one of my prized possessions because it has paid for itself multiple times.
- 3:06And then there's a recent magazine that have come out from Cornell.
- 3:10They bought my pictures to use in a story that they did on it.
- 3:13So those bird pictures are actually mine from the farm.
- 3:16And also I'd like to give that to people on the tours after we finish tours because a lot of folks don't have a lens like this.
- 3:23Now I can give you a photo of that bird because I do Google Drive for everybody.
- 3:28You can go back and look at it. I was at the Joe farm when I saw that warbler.
- 3:31Let's zero in on this article.
- 3:33It's in Living Bird Magazine, spring 2026.
- 3:37You have a magnificent picture of a bird in here.
- 3:41To me, you are the focus of the magazine.
- 3:43Let's talk about what's in it.
- 3:45We were contacted through a good friend, Dudley Edmondson, which wrote this article on us.
- 3:53And he was saying, Chris, I'm going to pitch this to Cornell.
- 3:56And y'all story needs to be told in these spaces.
- 3:59And I'm like, hey, man, whatever you want to do.
- 4:01He came to the farm actually last year at the Black Belt Birding Festival.
- 4:05And he interviewed us, took pictures, saw what we were doing.
- 4:09And he just wrote something so brilliant.
- 4:12And when the magazine came in the mail, and I got about five copies,
- 4:16and I'm just like, wow, I can't believe it.
- 4:19And then to see my pictures, people started calling me.
- 4:22They're on my website. I just read about you.
- 4:25When is your next tour?
- 4:26So probably seven people that are on my next tour read about me through this article.
- 4:31And they're coming from Texas. I got a few people that are coming from Texas.
- 4:35This magnificent bird here in this magazine, what is that?
- 4:40So we are known for the kites.
- 4:43We have Mississippi kites and also swallowtail kites.
- 4:47Those two birds, sometimes you don't see these birds close up to you.
- 4:51They're way up in the sky. Wow, I see that bird.
- 4:55I know that's a swallowtail.
- 4:56But to actually have them going over your head,
- 4:59people come from all over the country to see these birds
- 5:03because some of these are, especially the swallowtail kite,
- 5:06is kind of like a South America type bird that comes up through the summer to Alabama.
- 5:10And their range is kind of spreading a little bit more north.
- 5:13But they showed up at our farm in 2018.
- 5:16And Dad called me one day and said he was cutting hay.
- 5:20And cutting hay basically makes insects move around, pop up out.
- 5:24So your grasshoppers, which that picture is that I took,
- 5:27is the Mississippi kite has a grasshopper in its talons.
- 5:30He said, Chris, these birds are following me around the farm,
- 5:33and I'm cutting hay, and they're right behind me.
- 5:35And I said, what do they look like?
- 5:36He said, well, they look like a kite.
- 5:38And I'd never seen one before.
- 5:40I started asking my friends, and the friends I have at Alabama Audubon,
- 5:44they were like, those are swallowtail kites, Chris.
- 5:46Are you serious? I'm like, yeah, they're here now.
- 5:49I came back the next week to help him rake the hay in the process of baling hay.
- 5:5320 minutes in, once we had the tractors cranked up,
- 5:56here they started coming around.
- 5:58And next thing you know, they were right behind us.
- 6:00So they found our farm and love it.
- 6:02So every year, and this is our fifth year,
- 6:05they've been coming back every summer, faithfully.
- 6:07This is a beautiful bird.
- 6:09Please describe it for your listeners.
- 6:12Well, the Mississippi kite, just think of a bird of prey.
- 6:16It's on the white side with dark kind of red eyes.
- 6:21And the swallowtail kite, that's the real attractor.
- 6:25It has a swallowed kind of forked tail, black on the back, white chest,
- 6:31and it just soars.
- 6:33It basically looks like a fighter pilot jet coming over your head
- 6:36because their wings will move and their back tail will move
- 6:39and they will swoop down as fast,
- 6:41and then also just soar just like their own cruise controls.
- 6:45I really think we found something down at our farm
- 6:48that a lot of people, once I tell them that we're doing tourism,
- 6:52actually our logo bird is a swallowtail kite.
- 6:55And how big is it?
- 6:57Well, the wingspan, I think you're looking at almost 4 1⁄2 feet to 5,
- 7:01and they're bigger than you think they are.
- 7:04So they fly around, they eat on the flight.
- 7:07They'll grab a grasshopper, munch it, and keep flying
- 7:10until they get a full belly, and then they'll go sit in the tree.
- 7:13We had 22 swallowtail kites and about 12 Mississippi kites,
- 7:17all in the same field.
- 7:19Christopher, aren't we in nesting season?
- 7:22Oh yeah, so everybody is seeing birds going back and forth to trees
- 7:27because they're in that time-to-lay egg process.
- 7:30We recently had a walk here at Old Alabama Town,
- 7:33and we counted at least 5 nests that we saw on site.
- 7:38So we had 3 robins, and also we had a brown thrasher
- 7:43and a northern mockingbird.
- 7:45I'm giving people skills of observation.
- 7:48A lot of different birds build nests in different areas.
- 7:51A lot of people are having those barn swallows in the corner of their houses.
- 7:55A lot of people are getting the Carolina wrens to make their little nests.
- 7:59The Black Belt Birding Festival is when?
- 8:02So far, so good. We're going in year 5.
- 8:05The Black Belt Birding Festival, July 31st through August 2nd,
- 8:10located in Greensboro, Alabama.
- 8:12We have multiple stops, field trips, so our farm is one of the field trips.
- 8:17There are other trips that you can take to see different birds.
- 8:20Each area has a different concentration of what they're going to be looking for.
- 8:24We have guest speakers that come, and it has turned into, like I say, a 3-day event.
- 8:29So now we're doing Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays.
- 8:32And the location one more time?
- 8:34Greensboro, Alabama, my hometown, and it's very small, very rural,
- 8:39but I think birding has really allowed us to bring the world to small areas.
- 8:44Well, finally, since we're short on time, give us your website so that your listeners can check it out.
- 8:50My website is ConnectingWithBirdsAndNatureTours.com.
- 8:54You can click on the Events tab, and we do have a flyer,
- 8:58and we still got some more tickets available.
- 9:01Everything is on the website, and each link you can click, and it'll get you right to me.
- 9:05Christopher, it's been a joy celebrating birds through your eyes.
- 9:09Thank you.
- 9:10That was Christopher, Birdman Joe,
- 9:13who often leads birding tours at his 200-acre West Alabama family farm and in Montgomery.
- 9:21More information is at the website, ConnectingWithBirdsAndNatureTours.com.
- 9:27Professionally, Christopher Joe serves as District Conservationist
- 9:32with the Natural Resources Conservation Service in Macon County.
- 9:37Thanks for joining us today for In Focus, which is a podcast, wherever you get your podcasts.
- 9:43I'm Carolyn Hutcheson, and this is listener-supported Troy Public Radio.