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CBS NEWS TAKES 2+ years to admit Hunter Biden laptop is real! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: It only took them two years, Yeah, two years and
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Speaker 1: two elections for CBS News to come out and actually
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Speaker 1: admit that the copy of Hunter Biden's laptop data quote
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Speaker 1: appears to be genuine independent experts. Fine, now, you can
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Speaker 1: mock them for taking two years to get to this point,
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Speaker 1: but the reality is there's a reason why they're now
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Speaker 1: coming to this conclusion, and that is because Republicans are
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Speaker 1: taking over control of the House, and that means there's
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Speaker 1: going to be real investigations and they want to get
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Speaker 1: ahead of it to act like they've been covering this
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Speaker 1: all along. Now, a reporter actually asked a question of
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Speaker 1: the White House, and they're trying to get on the
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Speaker 1: record is saying we've asked about this before to cover
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Speaker 1: their own a doubles in the White House Press Corps.
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Speaker 1: They're asking questions about Joe Biden and Joe Biden's involvement
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Speaker 1: in his son's business dealings. Take a listen, can you
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Speaker 1: address whether the president was involved in any of his son,
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Speaker 1: Hunter or his brother's foreign business dealings. So look at
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Speaker 1: you know, there's there's some a little bit of interesting,
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Speaker 1: uh you know, kind of on brand thinking here because
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Speaker 1: you know, Congressional Republicans ran up saying that they were
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Speaker 1: going to fight inflation. They said they were going to
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Speaker 1: make that a priority. They were very clear about that.
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Speaker 1: These passed several months, and instead what they're doing is
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Speaker 1: they're focusing. You know, they're focusing. They're making their type priority.
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Speaker 1: They get the majority and their type priorities actually not
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Speaker 1: focusing on the American families, but focusing on the president's family. Now,
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Speaker 1: the White House Press Court knows that she's lying, and
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Speaker 1: the White House Press Court knows that the Biden team
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Speaker 1: has been lying, and Joe Biden's been lying all along.
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Speaker 1: In fact, they knew it two years ago. We know
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Speaker 1: that he was involved in his son's business dealings, and
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Speaker 1: we know this because of the laptop and the emails
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Speaker 1: and ten percent for the big guy. So you've got
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Speaker 1: to ask a question, why now, why is CBS News
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Speaker 1: finally doing a six minute report on Hunter Biden's laptop?
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Speaker 1: And it's only for one reason. Understand this, because they're
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Speaker 1: going to have to cover the Biden story with Republicans
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Speaker 1: taking control of the House. I also think there's another
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Speaker 1: reason why this is happening. Against this, they are now
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Speaker 1: trying to test the Waters, it may be time for
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Speaker 1: them to get rid of their useful idiot. Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: is the useful idiot. He may no longer be useful
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Speaker 1: of the Democrats, and most Democrats have said they don't
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Speaker 1: want him to run for reelection. So how do you
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Speaker 1: get rid of him? Well, you start reporting on the
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Speaker 1: truth of his corruption within his family. You start telling
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Speaker 1: the truth that the entire Hunter Biden business is really
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Speaker 1: not about him, or really isn't even his. It's just
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Speaker 1: him acting on behalf of his father and his uncle,
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Speaker 1: and his uncle doesn't have this business without the kingpin,
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Speaker 1: the big guy, the Joe Biden. Ten percent for the
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Speaker 1: big guy. And we all know who the big guy is.
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Speaker 1: It's so clear who the big guy is. It's obvious
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Speaker 1: who the big guy is. We know it. We all
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Speaker 1: know it, all right. This is stupid to act like
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Speaker 1: we don't know who it is. Ten percent for the
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Speaker 1: big guy is the President. And every single business deal
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Speaker 1: that involved Hunter Biden or James Biden was about connecting
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Speaker 1: report entitled inside Hunter Biden's Laptop. Take a listen to
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Speaker 1: what they had to say in their expose. Over two
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Speaker 1: years late and after two elections, then they finally break
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Speaker 1: the story, and as Republicans take control of the House,
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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, the president's son, will be a target for investigation,
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Speaker 1: and that means data from a laptop reported to belong
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Speaker 1: to Biden could be crucial to the investigatory process. CBS
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Speaker 1: News has obtained its data not through a third party
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Speaker 1: or political operative, but directly from the source who told
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Speaker 1: us they provided it to the FBI under subpoena, and
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Speaker 1: we commissioned an independent forensic review to determine its authenticity.
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Speaker 1: Senior investigative corresponding Katherine Harris joins us now with what
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Speaker 1: we've found. Catherine, I'm very interested. Good morning, Good morning, Tony.
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Speaker 1: These House Republican investigations are coming and that could be
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Speaker 1: a challenge for the White House as we head into
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four. The laptop data
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Speaker 1: we had analyzed showed no evidence it was faked or
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Speaker 1: tampered with, no evidence that it was fake or tampered with.
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Speaker 1: Took your two years, two whole years to give that data,
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Speaker 1: to give that information, to do this report. You missed
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Speaker 1: a presidential election, refusing to admit it was real, and
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Speaker 1: then you missed a mid term election, refusing to admit
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Speaker 1: that's real. But now after the midterm election, your go
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Speaker 1: You're like, let's do it now. Now we're ready, right now,
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Speaker 1: We're all about it. Now we'll tell you what's on
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Speaker 1: the laptop that two years ago we said was fake
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Speaker 1: and not real. In fact, we mocked the President of
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Speaker 1: the United States America in a sit down interview about
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Speaker 1: this when he brought up the laptop and said it
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Speaker 1: wasn't real. Digital forensic investigator Mark Lanterman was previously a
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Speaker 1: member of a Secret Service electronic crimes task force. There
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Speaker 1: was one thing that got my attention, and that was
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Speaker 1: a voicemail. Stared more than the whole world heal help.
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Speaker 1: That voicemail, apparently from Joe Biden during his son Hunter's
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Speaker 1: drug addiction, is one of many findings Lanterman used to
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Speaker 1: authenticate what is believed to be Hunter Biden's laptop data.
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Speaker 1: Your confident based on your analysis, this is Hunter Biden's
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Speaker 1: data and that it's real. Yes, This Delaware computer shop
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Speaker 1: is where the laptop's backstory begins, their records indicate. In
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Speaker 1: April twenty nineteen, Hunter Biden took his laptop in for
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Speaker 1: repair but never paid. After ninety days, the store considered
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Speaker 1: it abandoned. Then, in December twenty nineteen, the FBI subpoenaed
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Speaker 1: the store's owner to turn over the computer and a
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Speaker 1: portable drive of its data. Whatever happened to Hunter. During
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election, versions were widely shared by Republican operatives,
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Speaker 1: including Rudy Giuliani. We have the entire hard drive, but
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Speaker 1: questions were raised about whether additional files were added to
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Speaker 1: those versions. Then Candidate Biden labeled the laptop controversy disinformation.
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Speaker 1: What this he's accusing me of is a Russian plant.
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Speaker 1: CBS News approached the lawyer for the computer repair shop
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Speaker 1: owner to cut through the noise. We've always had one
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Speaker 1: clean copy and obtained a copy of what he says.
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Speaker 1: They provided the FBI under subpoena. By the way, how
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Speaker 1: they say we obtained that to break through the noise?
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Speaker 1: You hear that there? Right, Let's go back to CBS News.
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Speaker 1: Let's go back to October the twenty six CBS News
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Speaker 1: sixty minutes when Leslie Stall was interviewing Donald Trump, and
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump tried to bring up the scandal and listen
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Speaker 1: to how CBS News responded when Donald Trump brought it up.
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Speaker 1: Wish you would interview Joe Bidden like you interview me.
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Speaker 1: It would be so good. You know what you think?
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Speaker 1: I thought, But when I watch him walk out of
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Speaker 1: a store and he's walking with a ice cream and
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Speaker 1: the question the media asked him what kind of ice cream?
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Speaker 1: What flavor ice cream do you have? And he's in
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Speaker 1: the midst of a scandal, and he's taking He's not
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Speaker 1: in the middle of a scandal. Come on, he's not.
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Speaker 1: Now CBS News claiming they want to cut through the noise,
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Speaker 1: two years after they mocked the sitting president for the scandal,
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Speaker 1: saying it was not a scandal. Well wait, CBS days,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna really break through the noise. Now. We went
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Speaker 1: to Minneapolis for an independent analysis. Were you paid by
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Speaker 1: CBS or anyone else to analyze the data? No? No,
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't want anyone to think that someone bought our opinion.
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Speaker 1: Around the corner, that'll lead you to what we call
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Speaker 1: our imaging room, Lanterman and his sun Shane, both digital
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Speaker 1: forensic experts, recovered images of credit cards, a driver's license,
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Speaker 1: social security number. Just the sheer volume of what we're
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Speaker 1: dealing with. It would be difficult, if not impossible, to fabricate,
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Speaker 1: and explained how files built up over years. It accumulated
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Speaker 1: over time, which is consistent with normal everyday use of
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Speaker 1: a computer. There's some reporting about folders being added. We
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Speaker 1: have read these articles. We don't see that, so I
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Speaker 1: believe that that's because we have a more pristine copy.
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Speaker 1: The laptop and its contents had fueled Republican interest in
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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's business ventures. Hunter Biden was working with Chinese nationals.
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Speaker 1: They say this May twenty seventeen email outlining a proposed
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Speaker 1: business deal with a Chinese energy firm is one reason
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Speaker 1: why they have questions about whether President Biden benefited. We're
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Speaker 1: prepared to subpoena Hunter Biden. We would certainly hope that
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Speaker 1: he would want to come before the comedian clear his name.
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Speaker 1: Two of Hunter Biden's former business partners, including Tony Babalinski,
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Speaker 1: who received the email, told CBS News, the ten held
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Speaker 1: by h for the Big Guy is shorthand for ten
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Speaker 1: percent held by Hunter for his father. Let's just back
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Speaker 1: up for one second here. Two years after anyone with
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Speaker 1: a brain realized the Hunter Biden laptop story was one
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Speaker 1: hundred percent real, CBS News after missing this story for
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Speaker 1: two different elections on purpose. The presidential in the mid
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Speaker 1: term has finally gotten around to doing a deep dive
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Speaker 1: forensics into the laptop which we all knew was real
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Speaker 1: and everybody else in the media said is real. And
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Speaker 1: now they're reporting on the Hunter Biden laptop story saying, oh,
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Speaker 1: it is real. One other thing, I just have to say,
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Speaker 1: why now? That's the question that everyone needs to be asking.
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Speaker 1: Why now I can answer that question. The reason why
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Speaker 1: it's now is because the useful idiot is no longer
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Speaker 1: is you notice they're focusing on ten percent for the
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Speaker 1: big guy. They just mentioned that just brought it up right.
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Speaker 1: They say, Oh, Tony Bobo Lensky, the same guy. They
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Speaker 1: could have interviewed before the twenty sixteen or excuse me,
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty presidential election. They chose not to. They
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Speaker 1: could have interviewed him before the midterm elections. No, No,
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Speaker 1: didn't want to do that. Now after the elections are over, Hey,
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Speaker 1: let's talk to that Tony Bobo Lensky guy about the
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Speaker 1: big Guy, Joe Biden. CBS News. The ten held by
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Speaker 1: h for the Big Guy is shorthand for ten percent
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Speaker 1: held by Hunter for his father. After the email became
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Speaker 1: public in twenty twenty, the author of the email told
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Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal Joe Biden was not involved. The
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Speaker 1: author has not responded to CBS news as questions. Mister
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Speaker 1: Biden has consistently denied knowledge of his son's work or
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Speaker 1: financially benefiting from it. I've never spoken last month, I've
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Speaker 1: ever spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings. Now,
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Speaker 1: before I get into that part, let's go back to
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Speaker 1: the Tony Bobolynski part. There, they just straight up lied
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Speaker 1: to you about Tony Bobolynski. They did, CBS News just
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Speaker 1: flat out lied to you Tony Bobolenski is a guy
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Speaker 1: that they know is extremely damning to this president. They
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Speaker 1: know that Tony bobo Lensky has everything, and that's exactly
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Speaker 1: the reason why they decided not to touch it. They
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Speaker 1: don't want to talk about Tony, they don't want to
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Speaker 1: mention it. They don't want you to know everything he says.
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Speaker 1: They're like, oh, wow, you know, Tony, there's still some
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Speaker 1: questions about Tony Bobolynski. There are not questions still about
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Speaker 1: Tony Bobolynski. Everything he's ever said is accurate so far.
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Speaker 1: In all of this, the only thing that change is
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Speaker 1: your past, the election and everything. Now you're like, all right,
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Speaker 1: we can run out the clock on this one. We
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Speaker 1: can run out the clock. We can act like it's
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Speaker 1: real now right, we can this whole conversation about Tony.
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Speaker 1: We can finally we can finally move forward with it
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Speaker 1: because now it is expedient. Now it works for our timetable.
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Speaker 1: We want to get rid of Hunter Biden or excuse me,
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Speaker 1: the president Joe Biden from running again. That's why we
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Speaker 1: can now do this. Just listen to James Comber. There's
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Speaker 1: another part of this story. And again the media should
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Speaker 1: be covering this. They're not, but now maybe they'll start
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Speaker 1: because they want to get rid of Joe Biden. He's
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Speaker 1: the useful idiot that is no longer useful. He talks
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Speaker 1: about this two million dollar tax bill with the IRS, Well,
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Speaker 1: talk to us about these transactions, because you know, they've
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Speaker 1: tried to leak to the press that Hunter Biden is
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Speaker 1: going to be charged with tax issues. Is it because
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Speaker 1: he wasn't paying taxes on all of the money that
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Speaker 1: Chinese officials and any officials and Russians officials were wiring
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Speaker 1: into his account? Right? You know, he has at least
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Speaker 1: a two million dollars tax bill with the IRS. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how many people you know that, oh, the
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Speaker 1: IRS there were two million dollars. Hunter Biden is one
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Speaker 1: of them. But honestly, Maria, the tax evasion is the
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Speaker 1: least of hunter Biden's problems. And my fear is if
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Speaker 1: the doj in dict Hunter Biden, then that will essentially
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Speaker 1: protect him from a congressional subpoena from the House Oversight Committee.
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Speaker 1: So I'm not advocating for hunter Biden to being dicted.
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Speaker 1: I'm not advocating for a special counsel because I believe
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Speaker 1: that if the Treasury Cabinet and if the banks will
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Speaker 1: work with us, we'll be able to get answers to
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Speaker 1: the most important questions on the House oversight. Two million.
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Speaker 1: Will they get that help from the oversight? I don't know.
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Speaker 1: That's a great question. But the two million dollars is
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Speaker 1: two million dollars. There's also James Comer saying there are
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Speaker 1: emails showing Biden lying about his involvement with Hunter Biden,
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Speaker 1: which has been out there for two years, but CBF
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Speaker 1: series just now waking up to it. So there's evidence
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Speaker 1: from Hunter Biden himself to suggest that Joe Biden was
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Speaker 1: directly benefiting from the millions of dollars Hunter was getting
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Speaker 1: from these shady business hells. But even worse, we showed
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Speaker 1: emails today where Hunter Biden emailed the landlord of an
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Speaker 1: office for a business he was starting with his dad.
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Speaker 1: He said his dad was going to get a ten
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Speaker 1: percent equity stake in a business that was to help
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Speaker 1: China get their foot in the door on the American
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Speaker 1: natural gas industry. So the amazing thing is Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: was working with Hunter Biden to help China get a
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Speaker 1: leg up on our American energy industry. That's what he
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Speaker 1: was doing. So let's go back to CBS News now
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Speaker 1: two years later, they're going to tell you all this
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Speaker 1: is real. Sender Chunk Grassley wrote this letter alleging bank
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Speaker 1: records and financial data showed that Hunter Biden and the
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Speaker 1: president's brother profited from a five million dollar wire from
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Speaker 1: a company connected to CEFC, the Chinese energy firm. They're
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Speaker 1: going to look at every part of the Joe Biden administration.
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Speaker 1: Doug High is a Republican strategist. A lot of this
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Speaker 1: is also going to be aggressive on Hunter specifically. We're
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Speaker 1: gonna hear a lot about the laptop, who profited? Was
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Speaker 1: the law broken? Was it not broken? After two years
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Speaker 1: of scrutiny, the laptop has not produced evidence President Biden
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Speaker 1: directly benefited from his son's business deals. If there's Dirk,
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Speaker 1: can we just go back real quick there, she says,
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Speaker 1: after two years of scrutiny, the Hunter Biden laptop is
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Speaker 1: now producing evidence. That's a lie. This evidence was there
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Speaker 1: two years ago. You guys could have done the same
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Speaker 1: damn story you're doing right now at CBS News two
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Speaker 1: years ago. You could have done it before the midterms.
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Speaker 1: You could have done it a year ago, year and
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Speaker 1: a half ago. You could have done it six months ago.
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Speaker 1: But you're acting like it took you two years to
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Speaker 1: find out the truth that you're now selling to the
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Speaker 1: American people like you're the only ones that we're doing
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Speaker 1: due diligence, and everybody else was kind of just going
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Speaker 1: with a story and we weren't sure if it was
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Speaker 1: real or not. This is this Nothing has changed on
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Speaker 1: this laptop in two years. The FBI knows that too,
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Speaker 1: by the way, but they've been sitting on the story
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Speaker 1: as well. But she acts like CBS News for two years,
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Speaker 1: Katherine Herritt had just been into, you know, really digging
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Speaker 1: into this. This is total crap. I is a Republican strategist.
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Speaker 1: A lot of this is also going to be aggressive
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Speaker 1: on Hunter specifically. We're gonna hear a lot about the laptop,
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Speaker 1: who profited? Was the law broken? Was it not broken?
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Speaker 1: After two years of scrutiny, the laptop has non produced
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Speaker 1: evidence President By directly benefited from his son's business deals.
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Speaker 1: If there's dirt there that will dirty him up. If not,
19:41
Speaker 1: those attacks can backfire. Yeah, if there's dirt there, that's
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Speaker 1: what you get out of this. There is dirt there.
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Speaker 1: It's clear that he profited from his from the business dealings,
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Speaker 1: because none of these deals would get done, Kate. None
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Speaker 1: of these deals would get done, none of them, not
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Speaker 1: a single one of them would get done if it
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Speaker 1: wasn't for the big guy. They're like, Wow, We're still
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Speaker 1: not sure that he was really involved. We're still trying
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Speaker 1: to figure this out. She'll trying to understand if maybe
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Speaker 1: this is happening, and their closing argument here may be
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Speaker 1: the best part of the hypocrisy of CBS News Again,
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Speaker 1: we obtained their headline inside Hunter Biden's laptop CBS News
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Speaker 1: of Thame's laptop data purportedly belonging to the president Son. Well,
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Speaker 1: you just said that it is the president's son's laptop,
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Speaker 1: So now why are you keeping up on the screen
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Speaker 1: purportedly belonging to President Son when you just said you
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Speaker 1: guys verify that it is the present son's laptop. This
20:36
Speaker 1: is how scumbaggy they are. The White House declined to comment.
20:41
Speaker 1: Hunter's lawyer did not address our specific questions about the
20:44
Speaker 1: data or the CBS forensic review, but said there have
20:47
Speaker 1: been multiple attempts to hack, in fact, distort and pedal
20:51
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20:55
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21:03
Speaker 1: data or share it with others. The lawyer also referred
21:07
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21:14
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21:19
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21:25
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21:27
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21:29
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21:32
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21:35
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21:38
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21:41
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21:44
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21:47
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21:50
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21:53
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21:55
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22:04
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22:08
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22:11
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22:15
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22:20
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22:22
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22:27
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22:32
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22:35
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22:37
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22:44
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23:05
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23:09
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23:12
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23:14
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23:19
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Speaker 1: podcast every day automatically for free. There is evidence that's
25:06
Speaker 1: very clear that the Chinese government has actually been setting
25:10
Speaker 1: up police stations in around the US, including one in
25:15
Speaker 1: New York City. The FBI Director Christopher Ray confirmed this
25:20
Speaker 1: week the Bureau is investigating the Chinese government's efforts to
25:23
Speaker 1: set up these police stations all over the country, saying
25:27
Speaker 1: he's very concerned about Beijing's outrageous transnational repression schemes. There
25:35
Speaker 1: have been investigations in the US and in Europe, Canada
25:39
Speaker 1: and elsewhere that have actually been spurred not by the
25:41
Speaker 1: US government but by Safeguard Defenders, a nonprofit organization. They
25:47
Speaker 1: have released a report on Chinese transnational policing gone Wild,
25:53
Speaker 1: with the Spain based human rights advocacy groups saying fifty
25:57
Speaker 1: four overseas Chinese police service stations are operating in thirty
26:02
Speaker 1: countries across five continents that have been uncovered by the
26:07
Speaker 1: group so far, including in New York City. Now, FBI
26:12
Speaker 1: Director Ray was grilled about the Chinese efforts to do
26:16
Speaker 1: this in the US. Not to try to do it,
26:18
Speaker 1: they're actually doing it. He was grilled by Senator Rick
26:22
Speaker 1: Scott from Florida during a Senate hearing this week. The
26:24
Speaker 1: FBI director pointed the finger at the Chinese leader g
26:29
Speaker 1: for actually doing this. Now. Here's the part though, that
26:32
Speaker 1: really makes me angry. What we know right now is
26:37
Speaker 1: that these Chinese police stations number one are operating. In fact,
26:41
Speaker 1: we know that a Chinese police station operates in Lower Manhattan.
26:46
Speaker 1: We know who. It's being run by, the American Chang
26:49
Speaker 1: Lee Association NYC, Inc, which had its tax exempt status
26:55
Speaker 1: pulled by the IRS in May after it failed to
26:57
Speaker 1: submit its taxes for three years in a row. The
27:00
Speaker 1: outlets At documents show the nonprofit group was actually founded
27:04
Speaker 1: all the way back in twenty and thirteen, and apparently
27:07
Speaker 1: back in twenty thirteen is when they may have started
27:09
Speaker 1: doing this type of policing and what we're now just
27:12
Speaker 1: figuring this out come on. Not only was it founded
27:15
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, but they also said they paid one
27:19
Speaker 1: point three million three years later for an office that
27:23
Speaker 1: now houses the police station. Ray also added of Chinese
27:29
Speaker 1: surveillance efforts, they say, look, we've had situations where they've
27:32
Speaker 1: planted bugs inside of American cars, for example. And one
27:37
Speaker 1: of the things that we're seeing more and more is
27:39
Speaker 1: them hiring private investigators here in the US to essentially
27:43
Speaker 1: be their agents to conduct some of their work. So
27:47
Speaker 1: this is something that we're trying to call out now.
27:50
Speaker 1: The FBI director said it was important for Chinese Americans
27:53
Speaker 1: and Chinese dissidents in the US to report when they
27:56
Speaker 1: think they may have been targeted by this sort of
27:59
Speaker 1: Chinese conduct. That's encouraging, isn't it. Safeguard Defenders, the nonprofit
28:06
Speaker 1: group that is blowing the whistle on this, said its
28:09
Speaker 1: reports have been corroborated. When anonymous officials with the Chinese
28:13
Speaker 1: Ministry of Foreign Affairs told a newspaper in Spain October, quote,
28:17
Speaker 1: I don't see what is wrong with pressuring criminals to
28:21
Speaker 1: face justice with all the guarantee guarantees contained quote in
28:25
Speaker 1: Chinese law. In other words, they're admitting that they're doing this. Now,
28:30
Speaker 1: what they're doing in America is disgusting because what they're
28:32
Speaker 1: actually doing, we're also being told, is they're actually stalking
28:35
Speaker 1: and blackmailing people in the United States of America. They're
28:41
Speaker 1: blackmailing people in the US, and they're stalking people in
28:45
Speaker 1: the US and this is all part of what we're
28:48
Speaker 1: allowing them to do in this country. I want to
28:51
Speaker 1: play for you this back and forth between the FBI
28:55
Speaker 1: director and Senator Rick Scott from Florida. It's that the
29:00
Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party are operating police stations in the United
29:03
Speaker 1: States and effort to surveil Chinese dissidents. It seems obvious
29:06
Speaker 1: the US shouldn't allow its most significant geopolic arrival and
29:09
Speaker 1: oppressive communist regime to establish police stations in the US.
29:13
Speaker 1: What authority or jurisdiction does the c CP have in
29:17
Speaker 1: the US? And I don't know if which one want
29:19
Speaker 1: it testifying well, Senator, like you, I'm very concerned about this.
29:25
Speaker 1: We are aware of the existence of these stations I
29:28
Speaker 1: had to be careful about discussing our specific investigative work.
29:32
Speaker 1: But to me, it is outrageous to think that the
29:36
Speaker 1: Chinese police would attempt to set up shop, you know,
29:39
Speaker 1: in New York, let's say, without proper coordination. It violates
29:43
Speaker 1: sovereignty and circumvents standard judicial law enforcement cooperation processes. And
29:50
Speaker 1: the reason the reason this is so important is because
29:54
Speaker 1: we have seen a clear pattern of the Chinese government,
29:57
Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party exporting their transder repression right here
30:03
Speaker 1: into the US. And we've had now a number of
30:05
Speaker 1: indictments that you may have seen of the Chinese engaging
30:08
Speaker 1: in uncoordinated quote unquote law enforcement action right here in
30:12
Speaker 1: the United States harassing, stocking, surveiling, blackmailing people who they
30:18
Speaker 1: just don't like or disagree with the Shi regime. And
30:22
Speaker 1: so it's a real problem, and it's something that we're
30:25
Speaker 1: talking with our foreign partners about as well, because we're
30:28
Speaker 1: not the only country where this has occurred. Can you
30:32
Speaker 1: do they don't have any right to be here right Well,
30:36
Speaker 1: we're looking into the legal parameters of it. So I
30:40
Speaker 1: want to be a little bit careful to get not
30:42
Speaker 1: to get out over my skis on that, But I
30:44
Speaker 1: suffice to say I can tell you from an FBI
30:46
Speaker 1: director perspective, I'm deeply concerned about this, and I'm not
30:49
Speaker 1: going to just let it lie. Secretary, Does it impact
30:53
Speaker 1: I'm not security at all? Well, of course, the threat
30:56
Speaker 1: of China is one of the most significant threats that
30:59
Speaker 1: we face in the homeland. It's not only a matter
31:02
Speaker 1: of national securities, a matter of homeland security in a
31:05
Speaker 1: number of arrays, in a number of areas of our mission.
31:08
Speaker 1: Do you think you have the ability to shut them down?
31:11
Speaker 1: Do you have do you know if you have the
31:12
Speaker 1: right to shut them down? The the I would have
31:15
Speaker 1: to defer to the Department of Justice with respect of
31:18
Speaker 1: the would Justice not homeland security? Okay, so it would
31:22
Speaker 1: be under FBI well, or to the extent that the
31:25
Speaker 1: remedies might be some part of the Justice Department outside
31:29
Speaker 1: the FBI, that that could also be a possibility. And
31:31
Speaker 1: then there may be a State department dimension to this
31:33
Speaker 1: that we're looking into. So, when you know they're here,
31:36
Speaker 1: do you have do you know if they're surveiling US citizens?
31:39
Speaker 1: Do you know that yet? Do you have enough information
31:41
Speaker 1: to know if they are? Well? Again, I don't, I
31:43
Speaker 1: don't want to get too far into our ongoing investigative work.
31:46
Speaker 1: But as I said, we have seen plenty of situations,
31:48
Speaker 1: plenty of situations in the past where the Chinese government,
31:52
Speaker 1: under the pretext of going after corruption, have essentially used
31:59
Speaker 1: that as a vehicle to surveil. We've had situations where
32:03
Speaker 1: they've planted bugs inside Americans cars, for example. And one
32:09
Speaker 1: of the things that we're seeing more and more is
32:10
Speaker 1: them hiring private investigators here in the US to essentially
32:15
Speaker 1: be their agents, if you will, to conduct some of
32:18
Speaker 1: this work. So this is something we're trying to call out,
32:22
Speaker 1: and it's important the Chinese Americans and Chinese dissidents who
32:25
Speaker 1: are here know to call the FBI to report when
32:28
Speaker 1: they think they may have been targeted with this kind
32:30
Speaker 1: of you because you probably can't talk about it here.
32:32
Speaker 1: I'd like to get a classified briefing on what they're
32:35
Speaker 1: doing so at some point, so whenever it works out
32:38
Speaker 1: for you, we'd be happy to set that up. It's
32:42
Speaker 1: amazing that Senator Scott has to actually ask to get
32:46
Speaker 1: a briefing. Can I get a classified briefing on what's
32:51
Speaker 1: really going on? Like, oh yeah, we can set that
32:53
Speaker 1: up off too. If they're planting listening devices in cars.
33:00
Speaker 1: If they're doing this to people in this country, why
33:05
Speaker 1: is it just now that you're alerting everyone to it.
33:10
Speaker 1: Why wasn't there a big FBI press conference that we
33:13
Speaker 1: want to let you know to be on the lookout
33:15
Speaker 1: for the FBI. And why wasn't there a big press conference.
33:18
Speaker 1: Let's take it just one step further. Why wasn't there
33:22
Speaker 1: a really big press conference? Then also says something else, Hey,
33:29
Speaker 1: we want to warn all the private investigators out there
33:33
Speaker 1: that if you're getting hired, be careful who you're taking
33:35
Speaker 1: a job from, because if it is from the Chinese,
33:40
Speaker 1: they may be you may be working for Chinese communists.
33:43
Speaker 1: They may be using you as a is a Chinese
33:46
Speaker 1: communist spy. Be careful not to go work for the Chinese. Like,
33:53
Speaker 1: wouldn't that be I don't know, like a useful right.
33:59
Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be a useful moment, a useful piece of information?
34:06
Speaker 1: I would think it would be, right, I mean, wouldn't
34:09
Speaker 1: you wouldn't you just go? Yeah? That that really does
34:12
Speaker 1: make sense, Like we should probably warn people this way.
34:17
Speaker 1: We should probably let them know about what's happening. How
34:20
Speaker 1: is it only after we bring it up this way,
34:22
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, might wanna, you know, let everybody know
34:26
Speaker 1: what's happening, what's going on here? That wouldn't you think,
34:31
Speaker 1: I mean, that would be something that would be pertinent information.
34:34
Speaker 1: They're sitting there going, yeah, this is going on. We're
34:36
Speaker 1: really upset about it, We're really angry about it. We're
34:38
Speaker 1: looking at everything. No warning. You're not out there in
34:44
Speaker 1: the press saying hey, China's infiltrate the United States of
34:47
Speaker 1: America and this is what they're doing. And if you
34:49
Speaker 1: think you've been a victim, please call us like that
34:52
Speaker 1: didn't come up when you're like, this really is something
34:54
Speaker 1: that we should do, that that moment didn't happen for
34:59
Speaker 1: you at the FB. I go back to Joe Biden.
35:06
Speaker 1: How compromises Joe Biden that China feels like they can
35:09
Speaker 1: set up police stations in the United States of America
35:13
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35:17
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