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Brian McKnight Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: would always be one of my favorite actors, because you know,
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Speaker 1: when I cast him for a lending series on the
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Speaker 1: then popular Sitcoms System, that's my man right there. But
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Speaker 1: you know him as a singer. Can't take that away
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Speaker 1: from he's sexy, he's a singer. Over the course of
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Speaker 1: his career, he sold on twenty five million albums worldwide,
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Speaker 1: four top ten albums on the Billboard, two hundred albums,
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Speaker 1: CHOY sixteen Grammy nominations, nine BT Award nomination, American Music Awards,
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Speaker 1: MTV Video Award nominations, and NUBLE, A C. P. Immage
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Speaker 1: Award for Outstanding Mail Artists, and a Soul Trained Music
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Speaker 1: Award for Best R and B sould Beil Artists, Platinum
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Speaker 1: and double platinum for That Anytime One of My Favorite singer.
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Speaker 1: Seven and triple platinum for Back at One? Oh watched
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Speaker 1: the Remember that our playing? Oh Wow? Certification? Now that's
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Speaker 1: fair far to ty Twining because I'm talking to him
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Speaker 1: to day. The year that he's dropping his twentieth album,
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Speaker 1: the appropriate name Exodus, is released via the so No
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Speaker 1: Recording Group. Please work with the money making I'm missing
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Speaker 1: it up. Please walk with the money. Make conversations, my man.
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Speaker 1: You'm laughing in the background, Brian mcnights. Do you messing
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Speaker 1: me up? Brian? I was supposed to say professed, not
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Speaker 1: at all. And you know it's not often that you
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Speaker 1: hear all the things you've done in one mouthful, and
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Speaker 1: you know, I think we've known each other long and
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Speaker 1: if I don't, I don't dwell on any other things thing.
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Speaker 1: But it is nice to hear and nice to hear
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Speaker 1: from from someone that I respect so much in this business.
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Speaker 1: And uh, it's just it's fun. Thank you for having me.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. We know something. I'm like you. I'm a
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Speaker 1: type of person where I tend to like, um, move on.
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Speaker 1: We're too quick. Sometimes people are like, man, dude, could
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Speaker 1: people have to remind me of who I am. Sometimes
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Speaker 1: they have to remind me what I've done sometimes, and
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Speaker 1: so and so when I when I'm doing these intros
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Speaker 1: for a lot, and I consider your friend in the
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Speaker 1: business as well as somebody. We sit down, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: need lunch and breakfast and dinner together because we've had
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Speaker 1: some time together where we've we said around just smile
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Speaker 1: and talk, and so we I want to talk about
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Speaker 1: that a little bit, Brian, because that's why I brought
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Speaker 1: it up, because sometimes we moved too fast in life,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes that could be that could lead to you
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Speaker 1: thinking you hadn't done anything. You're thinking that, hey, I
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Speaker 1: got I gotta do more, And dude, it's your your
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Speaker 1: body of work is there. I'm not saying you think
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Speaker 1: like that, but sometimes you have to catch yourself, don't you.
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Speaker 1: Yes and no, See, I made the mistake of thinking
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Speaker 1: that way after my very first album, and after that
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Speaker 1: first record sold two million, I thought in my twenty
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Speaker 1: four year old mind that success was a foregone conclusion,
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Speaker 1: that I had made it. At every record that I
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Speaker 1: did after that was going to be at least as
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Speaker 1: good or better. So I was really resting on one
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Speaker 1: last cry and resting on you know, love is and
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Speaker 1: those hits that I had in that first album. And
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Speaker 1: when the second album wasn't as successful from a monetary standpoint,
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Speaker 1: it made me really go back in and look at
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Speaker 1: living my life, at least professionally, day to day, not
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Speaker 1: thinking about yesterday. It's about today and tomorrow. So that
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Speaker 1: I never felt that that feeling of of of not
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Speaker 1: of having an unrealistic expectation. I think, always giving your best,
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Speaker 1: always doing the best possible can, and then letting the
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Speaker 1: rest of the tip here of itself. So it's not
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Speaker 1: that we forget about the successes that we have, but
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Speaker 1: you're always looking for more success, and I think that
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Speaker 1: maybe a good thing or a bad thing. Depending upon
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Speaker 1: which side we are you happen to fall on. Well,
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Speaker 1: so many success it has come your way, and I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna go back. We're gonna have fun a little bit
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Speaker 1: here back And sister, sister man, you know, I'm a
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Speaker 1: fan of Felicia Henderson, one of the top directors and
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Speaker 1: writers in the industry. She's a tremendous fan of Brian McKnight.
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Speaker 1: And uh, I just I'm just mad because I don't
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Speaker 1: see you and no drama. I don't see you starting
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Speaker 1: no movies and Felicia and I we just new we
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Speaker 1: discovered the next black Hi Chocolate. Come on that chocolate
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Speaker 1: drop out there, come on the acting game. Yeah. You
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Speaker 1: know what's interesting. The interesting part of that is that
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Speaker 1: that would have been a great time seeing what you
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Speaker 1: guys saw on me that I didn't even see. Um
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Speaker 1: was something that I didn't even think was real. I thought,
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Speaker 1: because again you, the two of you, Felicia and yourself,
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Speaker 1: were the first ones that cast me in a role
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Speaker 1: that wasn't me playing myself. That was the first role
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Speaker 1: I've ever I've ever had. Now, I've done some others,
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Speaker 1: sick times, I've done some other things where it was
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Speaker 1: a guest appearance. I think one of the things that
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Speaker 1: derailed my acting career in some way was the success
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Speaker 1: of Any Time and the success of Back at Once,
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Speaker 1: because it made it so that I didn't have time
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Speaker 1: to really do anything else. Um, it was world tours.
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Speaker 1: It was you know, it wasn't the time that I
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Speaker 1: could go that. Yeah, you know it was. It was
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Speaker 1: tough now looking back at that. That should have been
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Speaker 1: the thing that catapulted that side of things, But I
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Speaker 1: was I always thought that, you know, and I'm a musician,
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Speaker 1: I'm a songwriter, That's what I do. First I was
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Speaker 1: I was kind of you know, not thinking in the
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Speaker 1: way things happen now where because of this music career
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Speaker 1: it can catapult so many other things. The right happens now.
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Speaker 1: I really wasn't thinking that way in the macro sense
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Speaker 1: when I should have been. Well, you know the thing
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Speaker 1: about it, first of all, and it wasn't just one episode.
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Speaker 1: He did a series for us because we can yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know we we we Brice, we just sit down
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Speaker 1: with Bracko and it really was funny because we were
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Speaker 1: so believed in you. And first of all, just what
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Speaker 1: you did musically wasn't even in the conversation because you
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Speaker 1: didn't sing on you just acted. And we went to
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Speaker 1: Devil b said, we want to do a series of
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Speaker 1: episodes with Brian McKnight and they said the singer. I said, yes,
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Speaker 1: you know, because usually what happens is they do stoadcasting
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Speaker 1: and they bring a singer in one time and use
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Speaker 1: less singer or sing on that episode to find some
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Speaker 1: way to sing on that episode, and then that's it.
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Speaker 1: But we really felt that your talents and and and
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Speaker 1: and and thinking back and watching you and evolving, and
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Speaker 1: it's really is a time when you look at people,
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Speaker 1: they can see some things in you that you don't
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Speaker 1: see or didn't plan on sin And then when you
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Speaker 1: look back at the shar I should have I should
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Speaker 1: have followed that thought a little bit longer when when
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Speaker 1: you said that earlier. But all I want to know
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Speaker 1: is tell you this is that, my man, You're incredible talent.
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Speaker 1: That was some of the most fun moments for me personally,
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Speaker 1: just to watch you as an artist, because you are
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Speaker 1: a superstar. You still are a superstar, don't don't get
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Speaker 1: it wrong. In the music game. When we ask you
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Speaker 1: to humble yourself and play on a sitcom and you said,
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Speaker 1: this is not what I do ra Sean, Yes you can't.
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Speaker 1: Yes you can do. So just think about that process
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Speaker 1: that we asked you to you know, in some ways
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Speaker 1: make you uncomfortable, right, Yeah, And I think that's the
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Speaker 1: part that you it's hard when you're successful to go
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Speaker 1: read for a part and then not even get a
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Speaker 1: call back. It's a it's a tough thing to get
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Speaker 1: your mind around that you weren't good enough at that
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Speaker 1: moment to to even get a consideration, and that that
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Speaker 1: was tough to deal with at a time when I
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Speaker 1: was having the biggest records of my career post Sister Sister.
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Speaker 1: So I think when you do a couple of those
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Speaker 1: and you have your agent having you go read or things,
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Speaker 1: and you have an acting coach and you think you're
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Speaker 1: doing it well and then you don't get those callbacks,
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Speaker 1: I think it becomes discouraging if it's not something that
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Speaker 1: was your dream to be doing with um. So that
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Speaker 1: was the tough thing for me to make it into
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Speaker 1: an acting career where I've seen a few of my
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Speaker 1: contemporaries where they may have had a director that took
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Speaker 1: them under their wing and then they did three or
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Speaker 1: four things and then catapulted their acting career. You know,
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Speaker 1: once I wasn't on sister sister, and I didn't really
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Speaker 1: have that in a sense. Uh, and it made it
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Speaker 1: very discouraging to walk into a casting director's office and
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Speaker 1: reef or something here. But Sean McDonald hasn't went anywhere, Okay,
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Speaker 1: And this is like you know how you how you reconnect?
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, out of sight, out of mind.
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Speaker 1: Well you're back in Rashawn's mind and you're not out
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Speaker 1: of sight no more. And i have a lot of
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Speaker 1: projects coming up, and I'm gonna contact your people, man,
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Speaker 1: because I just feel you're a special guy to me. Man,
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Speaker 1: your personality, because we've met many times. Corporate gifts, you know,
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Speaker 1: Steve Show, you came in, did some live performances and
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Speaker 1: things like that. So our relationship is is a long term.
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Speaker 1: And done a lot of things for the Hoodie Awards
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Speaker 1: and all those things. You've always been there. When I
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Speaker 1: picked up the phone to say, hey, man, could you
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Speaker 1: do a favor for us? Can you do something for charity?
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Speaker 1: And but more importantly, I just felt that, you know,
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Speaker 1: I just want to I just want to recapture something
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Speaker 1: I saw many years ago to being very special. That
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Speaker 1: talent has not went away, my friend. You still it's
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Speaker 1: still it's still buried in that buried in that heart,
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Speaker 1: it's still buried inside. It's funny that you say that,
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Speaker 1: because watching the Meteor live to Steve and you right
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Speaker 1: there with him, it did cross my mind that had
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Speaker 1: we kept that relationship the way it was that who
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Speaker 1: knows what could have happened through through me trying to
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Speaker 1: do a talk show and things of that nature. To
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Speaker 1: have somebody like you instead of the people that I
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Speaker 1: did have around me at the time, would have would
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Speaker 1: have really well, brother, you know, that's it's funny, that's
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Speaker 1: a funny thing. We know. We we were together again,
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Speaker 1: and uh, we're together because we talked about about your life,
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Speaker 1: your music, and that's what has been the story of
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Speaker 1: your life, you know, your music, and so tell us
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Speaker 1: about your music today, the Exodus and we're talking about
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Speaker 1: some of the things you're talking about. But it just
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Speaker 1: walkers forward. I just wanted to walk down memory ain't
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Speaker 1: a little bit with your Brian because of the fact
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Speaker 1: that I love you, dude. I you know, I sit
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Speaker 1: on the sidelines and I stopped managing steven S trying
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Speaker 1: to find my voice, you know, trying to find what
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Speaker 1: I wanted to do a managing bit Steve Nay Smith
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Speaker 1: and now he's the highest paid personal ESPN and salary wise,
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Speaker 1: and we've got some great things happening. But I'm reading
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Speaker 1: acting with people over the years, I felt that, hey, man,
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Speaker 1: the god gifts that God gave them, and I wanted
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Speaker 1: to kind of like stimulate them. But the gift that
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Speaker 1: God gave you that has always been at the forefront
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Speaker 1: has been your music. Tell us about what you had
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Speaker 1: right now? Well right now, you know. I met I
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Speaker 1: met my wife back in twelve and one of the
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Speaker 1: things I think that disconnected about me was that I
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Speaker 1: never had a subject for any of that music earlier on.
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Speaker 1: I I never even liked anyone, let alone love them,
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Speaker 1: and nobody ever did it for me and the way
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Speaker 1: that my music would have suggested until I met my wife.
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Speaker 1: And every song that I've written since the day we
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Speaker 1: met has been about heard about our love. So it's
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Speaker 1: it's the story of finding that thing that everybody wants
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Speaker 1: that very few people have that when you look at
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Speaker 1: our at my Instagram and the love that we have,
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Speaker 1: it is so real and so pure, and we lived
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Speaker 1: this love every day and it is a reflection of
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Speaker 1: the music I spent the first, you know, is of
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Speaker 1: my career trying to figure out how to put this many,
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Speaker 1: this many syllables with this many notes and try to
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Speaker 1: imitate Stevie Wonder and imitate this guy and irritate that guy.
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Speaker 1: But by the time I met Leilani, you know music
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Speaker 1: now he's coming from my heart. She is the endless
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Speaker 1: source of inspiration that I have found, and I am
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Speaker 1: the man that I never could have been had she
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Speaker 1: not been in my life, and the best man I
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Speaker 1: can never possibly be because of her. So better Three
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Speaker 1: Records Ago was the beginning of all the music that
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Speaker 1: she's inspired. Genesis was the second part of that, and
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Speaker 1: Our Exodus is another love letter to my wife. Because
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Speaker 1: I am happier and I'm listened the happiness that I have,
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Speaker 1: and I'm sure you can here it comes to the phone,
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Speaker 1: is it's unbelievable to be this happy? Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: I feel that First of all, you have to stabilize
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Speaker 1: yourself emotionally, and then when you wake up, you have
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Speaker 1: a reason for waking up. That's what we're talking about
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Speaker 1: right now, because every morning everything has to be gold Orient,
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Speaker 1: you know, and so go Orient and so so so
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Speaker 1: so the the the songs that you put together on
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Speaker 1: this particular CD, and and what is the you know,
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Speaker 1: we all want to sell a lot of CDs, but
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Speaker 1: also there's a message we all we want to sell.
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Speaker 1: Because I'm I'm gonna shift after this question to go
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Speaker 1: to the Kovid Bryant tribute song because you know you
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Speaker 1: your music. What I love about it? It always made
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Speaker 1: me sit down and think. It always made me. I
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Speaker 1: would tell that's that's great music to me. I it's
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Speaker 1: it's it's songs that you can play of yours. I
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Speaker 1: know exactly where I was at Brian, I know exactly
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Speaker 1: what I was doing, or who I was dating, or
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Speaker 1: what I was eating or that. It's that's really powerful man,
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Speaker 1: that that's a tribute to your gifts. Oh thank you.
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Speaker 1: But that's the thing, you know, all those songs that
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Speaker 1: you're talking about from back in the day were the
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Speaker 1: songs that I wrote for everyone else to think about.
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Speaker 1: What does what do my fans want? What are they
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Speaker 1: going through? But can I write here that I have
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Speaker 1: no idea because I don't. I didn't have a heart
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Speaker 1: till I met le RANI, I mean, how do I
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Speaker 1: transfer that to this music? And now all of these
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Speaker 1: songs about us and hopefully people and this is what
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Speaker 1: we get from the comments that we see and the
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Speaker 1: d ms that we receive, that people finally have hope
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Speaker 1: that they can find at least a semblance of what
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Speaker 1: we have, And that's this music is all about. I mean,
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Speaker 1: these songs on Exist, I mean from Bad, which is
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Speaker 1: the day we met and I wanted to speak with
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Speaker 1: her and she was not having it. To stay on
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Speaker 1: your mind, which is completely about the first time we
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Speaker 1: actually did make love to nobody, which is, you know,
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Speaker 1: to me, the greatest love song I've ever written, because
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Speaker 1: I'm saying and feeling all those things that say, but
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to hold anybody's hand or kissing anybody.
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna think about anyone else. There is nobody
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Speaker 1: else in this whole world for me but you. I've
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Speaker 1: never made statements like that. I've never made statements about
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Speaker 1: you know. I always wrote everything very on the surface
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Speaker 1: because I didn't see any but there was nothing to
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Speaker 1: write about, so I left it open because that's all
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Speaker 1: there was. But now it's so much deeper and That's
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Speaker 1: what I'm talking about on this album. Now you go
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Speaker 1: This has been unlike anything in my fifty one years
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Speaker 1: T e R. Dot Ai. The really sad part of
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18:52
Speaker 1: was such a humble cat, and you just saw him
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Speaker 1: as this incredible athlete on the court, but you realize
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Speaker 1: the conversation off the court, which equally as hall of
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Speaker 1: famous if that is a work, because you know, you
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19:10
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19:15
Speaker 1: that they had. He was able to be and have
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Speaker 1: that drive that no one could touch on the court,
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Speaker 1: but the minute the step off the court, he could
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Speaker 1: be something else. He didn't have to be that guy
19:25
Speaker 1: he was on the court. Off the court, he could
19:28
Speaker 1: channel that energy in another way. And it's tough for
19:30
Speaker 1: people to do that. For boxes, For comedians. Comedians you know,
19:33
Speaker 1: they always have to be on in some way in
19:36
Speaker 1: just a regular conversation. It was tough for them to
19:38
Speaker 1: not be, you know, and it's it was great to
19:41
Speaker 1: be around him to see that he could be that
19:43
Speaker 1: well around it now. So so talk about putting this
19:45
Speaker 1: song together because this guy's multi talented, and you found
19:49
Speaker 1: that this is post stuff. I I'm an industry so
19:52
Speaker 1: I knew about Coba. But you find out how great
19:54
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Speaker 1: oscar runner. You find out he was a stupid businessman.
20:00
Speaker 1: He daughta he traveled in different countries and China, and
20:03
Speaker 1: he really had his hands. So his transition from the sport,
20:07
Speaker 1: you go, hey, what is he gonna do? He had
20:09
Speaker 1: already planned that exit because he was an entrepreneur and
20:12
Speaker 1: with all those things, how did it come about putting
20:15
Speaker 1: this song together? The Kobe tribute saw in his honor,
20:18
Speaker 1: You know, I really just looked at how the whole
20:23
Speaker 1: world came together. Even people who weren't basketball fans were
20:29
Speaker 1: affected by this man's life and ultimately his death. And
20:33
Speaker 1: it was really that feeling in my own house, Um,
20:36
Speaker 1: having to one teenager and one um child as twenty
20:41
Speaker 1: one who really didn't get to see him play and
20:43
Speaker 1: really understand know they were affected, which really blew my mind. Um,
20:48
Speaker 1: waking up every day really in disbelief that he was
20:51
Speaker 1: gone um to my wife, and I would just sit
20:54
Speaker 1: there and really just couldn't grasp the concept that he
20:58
Speaker 1: wasn't here. Um. I grabbed my guitar and literally from
21:03
Speaker 1: the conversations we have wrote the song because I wanted
21:07
Speaker 1: to to give some relief to those folks you were
21:09
Speaker 1: heard in so badly. You know. It's really interesting because,
21:13
Speaker 1: like you said, this has been a crazy year because
21:15
Speaker 1: those two African American men who passed away to stop
21:19
Speaker 1: this world. The first, of course, was Don unfortunate, and
21:21
Speaker 1: both of more passing was unfortunate because one they were
21:24
Speaker 1: shocking to us. And when I to hear the news
21:27
Speaker 1: of Kobe Bryant Dane and a helicopter crash with his daughter,
21:31
Speaker 1: you know, and and I have a I'm a parent
21:34
Speaker 1: and I have a single daughter. That that was just
21:36
Speaker 1: devastating for me. Knowing that his daughter was with him
21:39
Speaker 1: his death for lung was devastating the fact that his
21:41
Speaker 1: daughter that was even more equally devastating. And then the
21:45
Speaker 1: George Floyd's situation which stopped the world and has has
21:48
Speaker 1: galvanized people. And uh, it's time to change the Black
21:52
Speaker 1: Lives Matter music. You're an emotional guy, your leader you're
21:55
Speaker 1: in that whole world of change and and and galvanizing
21:59
Speaker 1: people emotionally with what the Kobe Bryant and then the
22:02
Speaker 1: George Floyd, What do your comments on this? And then
22:05
Speaker 1: we're gonna slide over to the pandemic if we have
22:08
Speaker 1: talked about the pandemic yet, you know, I'm a I'm
22:11
Speaker 1: a forward thing to to Sean, and it's it's really
22:17
Speaker 1: sucks that something so tragic had to happen for this
22:22
Speaker 1: conversation to start again. Um, being as old as I am,
22:27
Speaker 1: and I think as old as you are, remembering what
22:29
Speaker 1: like in the sixties and seventies and seeing that there
22:33
Speaker 1: has been some progress, we both realized that we had
22:36
Speaker 1: not overcome yet. As good as things may have been,
22:41
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate that once again it took something this tragic
22:44
Speaker 1: took this conversation stared again. The question is where do
22:48
Speaker 1: we go from here? And it's it's a good thing
22:52
Speaker 1: that this, that all of this awareness is is coming
22:55
Speaker 1: to light of people. And the thing that is great
22:57
Speaker 1: is and not that there is a great thing about it.
22:59
Speaker 1: If you can take some from the people who some
23:01
Speaker 1: of the people who are protesting, people who are at
23:04
Speaker 1: the forefront of this aren't of color. And this is
23:07
Speaker 1: something that I've never seen in my lifetime that people
23:10
Speaker 1: who aren't black are, you know, championing this cause. And
23:14
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the good things that comes
23:16
Speaker 1: from this. And hopefully this conversation happened, we can have
23:19
Speaker 1: it uncomfortably and then we never have to have it again.
23:23
Speaker 1: That's my hope. And that's and that's that's a great hope.
23:25
Speaker 1: And I think that when you when you because in
23:27
Speaker 1: this this year and uh, and I'm not trying to
23:30
Speaker 1: get into politics. It's just life, you know that we're
23:32
Speaker 1: talking about, and your your tremendous musical audiences and your
23:36
Speaker 1: emotion and things that you sing about tapping into what
23:39
Speaker 1: we you know, you've made me cry, you maybe laugh,
23:42
Speaker 1: you maybe damn. Okay, Okay, let's be real not you know.
23:46
Speaker 1: I've been in concerts in l A watching you, under
23:48
Speaker 1: standing up going yeah, you know, I'm in the concert.
23:52
Speaker 1: I want you had that silhouette. You just come out
23:54
Speaker 1: with a silhouette, remember that, Yeah that I go back
23:58
Speaker 1: with your baby, I go back with you, and so
24:02
Speaker 1: and and and and so when you and then you
24:03
Speaker 1: look at the pandemic and and you realize that African
24:06
Speaker 1: Americans are and people of color or dying overtly of this,
24:10
Speaker 1: of this uh this worldwide that some people call it
24:14
Speaker 1: a plague, and and it just forced me to change
24:17
Speaker 1: my value system and how I approached them and how
24:20
Speaker 1: communicate things to people. In some ways, I've become a
24:23
Speaker 1: pandemic expert on how to handle your finances and how
24:26
Speaker 1: you live your life socially. And then you have a family.
24:29
Speaker 1: This is home now, you know, how how did you
24:32
Speaker 1: deal with And I'll just tell you my short story
24:34
Speaker 1: when I I'm comfortable with it, Brian. But initially, man,
24:38
Speaker 1: I had problems going down in the streets. I didn't
24:40
Speaker 1: know what to do. They have gloves do I put
24:42
Speaker 1: the sanard tis all, I put the mask on. I
24:45
Speaker 1: really was struggling, and it was in somewhat way it's
24:48
Speaker 1: fearful of this, and I'm not saying I'm not afraid
24:51
Speaker 1: of it now, but I'm much more comfortable because, like
24:53
Speaker 1: they said, this is the new normal, and you learn
24:56
Speaker 1: to adjust to the new normal. Yeah. You know what's
25:00
Speaker 1: funny about that is my wife has been preaching distancing
25:04
Speaker 1: way before the way before this happened. You know, she
25:08
Speaker 1: germs and touching people and shaking hands. I shake hands
25:11
Speaker 1: after every show, and she was like, look, just after stop,
25:17
Speaker 1: you know, before you touch me, you better go over
25:19
Speaker 1: there and get your hands real, real clean and everything.
25:22
Speaker 1: You know. So we have been really looking, you know,
25:26
Speaker 1: to be this way for quite some time. So there
25:29
Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot of of of adjustments, necessarily for
25:33
Speaker 1: home bodies anyway. Um, there's two things. One, I hadn't
25:37
Speaker 1: taken a break from doing shows and probably fifteen years,
25:41
Speaker 1: so I'm sure that my voice, my body, my mind
25:44
Speaker 1: needed a bit of a break anyway that I probably
25:47
Speaker 1: wouldn't taken. Uh, So that's a good thing. And we've
25:50
Speaker 1: actually been able to spend time just together the family.
25:53
Speaker 1: Our parents were here, we were having family dinner every night,
25:56
Speaker 1: being together where we normally wouldn't be able tos we
25:59
Speaker 1: was a holiday. So is that part of the team
26:01
Speaker 1: good as well. So again we try to find that
26:04
Speaker 1: silver lining and otherwise tough situations. But hopefully this is
26:10
Speaker 1: educating people that you know, we all need to be cleaner,
26:12
Speaker 1: we all need to sanitize all the things that we
26:15
Speaker 1: need to sanitize, and just you know, be cognizantive when
26:18
Speaker 1: you're sneezing when you're coughing. We've been on airplanes or
26:21
Speaker 1: someone behind us just sneezing all over the place, off
26:24
Speaker 1: and all over the place. You know, these are things
26:26
Speaker 1: that people are now hopefully are being more cognizant about.
26:29
Speaker 1: But as you go out to the grocery store and
26:30
Speaker 1: go out the places, not everyone is that hearing because
26:34
Speaker 1: this and that's the part that can be very frustrated.
26:36
Speaker 1: Absolutely Now the twenty album extra this uh tell us,
26:42
Speaker 1: uh tell us the whole story about get the album,
26:45
Speaker 1: getting the singles? What what can I do? What can
26:47
Speaker 1: I do? I got social media too, you know, you're
26:50
Speaker 1: trying to build his own brand now, I gotta I
26:52
Speaker 1: got a mail in list of ninety three thousand going
26:54
Speaker 1: out this Wednesday. I got almost a million social media
26:57
Speaker 1: followers on the Rushan McDonald money, make conversations. What can
27:00
Speaker 1: I do for my good friend Brian McKnight. I tell you,
27:05
Speaker 1: just just talking to you now and knowing that you're
27:07
Speaker 1: still in my corner after all these years. Man, is
27:11
Speaker 1: it's a conversation that we can have because we all
27:14
Speaker 1: need that, because everybody's on social media. Because because of that,
27:18
Speaker 1: everyone becomes a celebrity. Of some notes. How do you
27:22
Speaker 1: make how do you make your noise be seen and
27:25
Speaker 1: be heard by people that are all over the place.
27:28
Speaker 1: Anybody you would think, oh wow, now I can just
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Speaker 1: sell directly to my fans. Well it's not quite, daddy,
27:34
Speaker 1: because everybody has something to say. Everybody has you know,
27:37
Speaker 1: it's tough to to make your way and navigate through
27:40
Speaker 1: this sea of people. Um and the three you really
27:44
Speaker 1: need to lean on someone several someone's who know how
27:48
Speaker 1: to navigate. Another great. Yeah, it's another great reason to
27:53
Speaker 1: be back in contact with you because I've seen the
27:55
Speaker 1: things you've done. I mean I watch stephen A every day,
27:58
Speaker 1: watched his watch Need York Rid and you know, it
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Speaker 1: can't it can't be a coincidence that you're next to
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Speaker 1: all of these people who the New York riding And
28:10
Speaker 1: now that I look back at the man, he was
28:12
Speaker 1: in my quarterback in the day, and I could have
28:14
Speaker 1: had that thing. I'm still in your corner. So let's
28:18
Speaker 1: stop all that. Man, Stop all that man. It's just that,
28:21
Speaker 1: you know, I'll tell everybody just that. I just I
28:24
Speaker 1: just sat down on myself and just figure out who
28:26
Speaker 1: Sean McDonald was. And like you in the pandemic. This
28:30
Speaker 1: has been a good thing for me as well because
28:32
Speaker 1: from a from us, from a spiritual, from a social,
28:35
Speaker 1: from a family standpoint, I really it's a it's a crisis,
28:38
Speaker 1: an on going crisis. But my whole life has been
28:41
Speaker 1: dealing with some type of crisis. But building other people's
28:44
Speaker 1: careers and and things like that. Now that I sat
28:46
Speaker 1: back and I look at what I can accomplish for myself,
28:49
Speaker 1: I know I can do more for others who trust me,
28:52
Speaker 1: who really trusts me, and and and when I look
28:55
Speaker 1: at your music and I look at the times we
28:58
Speaker 1: you know I'm one of these guys eyes bro. You
29:00
Speaker 1: might not say hello to me or by to me,
29:03
Speaker 1: but I'm watching, I'm watching, and I'm loving them. I'm
29:06
Speaker 1: going I just gotta give my life right. Because I
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Speaker 1: for people that I love, I respect. And you wanted
29:13
Speaker 1: to hear at the top of the list of one
29:14
Speaker 1: of those lists, Brian Igniting, I love, I respect, and
29:17
Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring you on the show man
29:19
Speaker 1: just to talk and laugh about some things. You probably
29:21
Speaker 1: think we're not important to me, but they are important
29:24
Speaker 1: to me, and you can hear come out of my
29:25
Speaker 1: mouth and just share story with my my my fans
29:28
Speaker 1: on the money making conversation platform. That's all. It's a
29:32
Speaker 1: funny thing because I'm one of those people too. I
29:34
Speaker 1: probably would have never picked up the phone and calls
29:36
Speaker 1: myself and say, hey, can you look at this and
29:39
Speaker 1: tell me how I can do that because watching you work,
29:45
Speaker 1: it's hard to know that you're watching because you've seen
29:48
Speaker 1: very you know, a student about what you're actually doing.
29:52
Speaker 1: And now hearing you say that you were still watching it,
29:55
Speaker 1: it makes me feel good because I was like, man, Ma, Sean,
29:58
Speaker 1: you know he he's doing all this, you know he.
30:02
Speaker 1: I wonder if you could do something for me, but
30:03
Speaker 1: I don't want to ask because he dealing with somebody
30:05
Speaker 1: who's bigger than me right now. And really get that,
30:08
Speaker 1: that that thing about you that says, you know, maybe
30:10
Speaker 1: not Sean, maybe there's somebody else, but you know what,
30:12
Speaker 1: why not do with the guy who's the best? There
30:14
Speaker 1: you go, there you go, there you go. Hey be man,
30:17
Speaker 1: thank you for calling my show man. And again we
30:19
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30:22
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30:25
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30:27
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30:33
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30:34
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30:38
Speaker 1: this ain't by the contract. This is not even by
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Man. We talked to it. Okay, okay.
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