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- 0:42Speaker 2: and media executive with more than twenty five years of
- 0:45Speaker 2: experience shaping hit television and building pathways into the entertainment industry.
- 0:50Speaker 2: He currently serves as showrunner and executive producer of Harlem
- 0:54Speaker 2: Glow Trotter's Secrets of the City. All episodes of Harlem
- 0:57Speaker 2: Glow Trotter Secrets of the City season and one are
- 1:00Speaker 2: available to stream on Aspire TV Plus available on Amazon, Roku,
- 1:05Speaker 2: and Infinity. Let's get rolling, y'all, please work with the
- 1:08Speaker 2: money Making Conversation massive class recall Handy, Well, you know
- 1:12Speaker 2: it's been a.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Long time man, you know, so we talk now.
- 1:16Speaker 2: I thought you didn't like me no more, mister hand,
- 1:19Speaker 2: mister handed, mister hand.
- 1:20Speaker 1: It been that long, been that low.
- 1:22Speaker 3: No, No, I just you know, it's funny. You know,
- 1:24Speaker 3: you just get your head down and you start working.
- 1:26Speaker 3: And uh but but when you when you, when you,
- 1:28Speaker 3: when you hustling and grinding and moving and shaking like
- 1:30Speaker 3: we do, we always gonna come back around and see
- 1:33Speaker 3: each other again sometimes.
- 1:34Speaker 2: Now, your business with Inspire TV plus, tell us about
- 1:37Speaker 2: that relationship before we getting into the series. Because you
- 1:39Speaker 2: have a career and MTV b et a lot of
- 1:43Speaker 2: networks out there that you've done business with, but each
- 1:46Speaker 2: one has a different responsibility creatively, and you have to
- 1:49Speaker 2: hit certain budgets and certain creative requirements. Talk about that
- 1:53Speaker 2: relationship and Inspire plus TV plus, Well, you know.
- 1:56Speaker 3: And I'm glad you start with that question because I
- 1:58Speaker 3: actually that's what it is. It's a relationship. You know.
- 2:01Speaker 3: We actually did a podcast called Money Moves a while back.
- 2:06Speaker 3: And uh, and we we started licensing that to Aspire
- 2:11Speaker 3: and just figuring out programming that that I was up
- 2:14Speaker 3: to that worked for them, you know. And we would
- 2:16Speaker 3: just always stay in communication. You know, they're there in
- 2:19Speaker 3: Atlanta where Bounce TV was located, so we all know
- 2:23Speaker 3: each other very well. I think some of the folks
- 2:25Speaker 3: used to work at Bounced that work over there, and
- 2:27Speaker 3: but me and Angela and Cannon over there have a
- 2:29Speaker 3: really good relationship, and the founder, Charlie, have a good relationship.
- 2:35Speaker 3: And and so we just always stayed in communication. And
- 2:39Speaker 3: when I started working with the Harlem Globetrotters, I worked
- 2:42Speaker 3: with them at NBC. I did a show called Play
- 2:44Speaker 3: It Forward for NBC, is like a Saturday morning show,
- 2:47Speaker 3: and that one for a few seasons. Yeah, and and
- 2:50Speaker 3: so I was like, what what can we do with
- 2:51Speaker 3: the Globetrotters, and and we started to talk about how
- 2:56Speaker 3: it's hard to do travel shows, you know, and I start, well,
- 2:59Speaker 3: the Globetrotters they all already traveling, right, maybe we could
- 3:03Speaker 3: work something out. And that's how a conversation started.
- 3:06Speaker 2: Now that's interesting because you know, it is true, you know,
- 3:10Speaker 2: like I said, the travel shows they see automatic everybody
- 3:14Speaker 2: want to go see a travel show, just like a
- 3:16Speaker 2: cooking show, just like a remodeling show or a house
- 3:20Speaker 2: hunting shows. Now, what makes you the Globe Trotter show
- 3:24Speaker 2: different when you talk about travel show?
- 3:28Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, so, I mean so keep in mind that
- 3:30Speaker 3: Aspires a lifestyle network where you can watch as a
- 3:34Speaker 3: you know, young woman, young man, black man in America
- 3:37Speaker 3: and Aspire right, that's can'st the name to do all
- 3:42Speaker 3: these you know, different cool things, whether it's cook style, design,
- 3:46Speaker 3: your home, whatever it is. And obviously we love the travel,
- 3:49Speaker 3: especially post pandemic. We actually are the fastest growing market
- 3:53Speaker 3: for traveling people working abroad and things like that. So,
- 3:57Speaker 3: but where to go and what to do and how
- 3:59Speaker 3: to get there? You know, that's where the Secrets of
- 4:02Speaker 3: the City comes in because we end up connected with
- 4:04Speaker 3: expats all around the world. We end up learning about
- 4:07Speaker 3: what it's like not just to live in that not
- 4:08Speaker 3: just to go visit the city for vacation, but how
- 4:11Speaker 3: to live in that city, how to be in that city,
- 4:13Speaker 3: what's available for us as African Americans in that city
- 4:16Speaker 3: that's unique to our experiences and our interests. And also,
- 4:20Speaker 3: the Globe Trotters have a unique job. You know, they
- 4:23Speaker 3: are ambassadors of good will. They go and do things
- 4:26Speaker 3: like hang out with the Pope and spread joy around
- 4:29Speaker 3: the world to different you know, ambassadors to the UN
- 4:33Speaker 3: Food and Agricultural Department. So so that's one of the
- 4:36Speaker 3: reasons why they go to places like Italy and make
- 4:39Speaker 3: these appearances. And so the FAO is one of the
- 4:42Speaker 3: organizations they work with closely, and that's the very unique
- 4:45Speaker 3: experience of being a Globe trotter. But then additionally, while
- 4:48Speaker 3: in Italy, we went and you know, with Ethiopian folks
- 4:52Speaker 3: in there in their neighborhood and their restaurants, learn about
- 4:55Speaker 3: the different folks in the diaspora that are around Rome
- 4:57Speaker 3: and the different cities we go to. So we give
- 5:00Speaker 3: a unique mix of culture that's local but also things
- 5:05Speaker 3: that African Americans might be interested in going to West Day.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Now here's an interesting thing.
- 5:09Speaker 2: You know, I hate interviewing professionals like red because like,
- 5:14Speaker 2: that was a question I had.
- 5:15Speaker 1: He went through by three four courtions already. But that's
- 5:17Speaker 1: all right.
- 5:18Speaker 3: I got more read, I got, I got forgot death.
- 5:23Speaker 2: And we will get deeper because okay, the Harlem Globe
- 5:27Speaker 2: Trotters one hundred years Now, there's a certain responsibility for
- 5:31Speaker 2: Aspire TV Plus and you to deliver you know, relevance.
- 5:36Speaker 2: Why should we watch the Harlem Globe Trotters. Now, before
- 5:40Speaker 2: the call, I told you Lewis Dunbar, he went to
- 5:42Speaker 2: college with me, one of the oldest, one of the
- 5:45Speaker 2: oldest members Houston Cougar's universe, Houston Cougars of the Harlem
- 5:50Speaker 2: Clo trilogy.
- 5:50Speaker 1: Now you're telling me his sons on the team now.
- 5:53Speaker 2: But but that responsibility of delivering black content, there's historical
- 5:59Speaker 2: black content. Yeah, and you work with them before. What's
- 6:02Speaker 2: to spend now that gains my interest other than seeing
- 6:06Speaker 2: them on black on the basketball court doing what they do.
- 6:10Speaker 3: Well, you know, here's the thing. And I got to
- 6:13Speaker 3: give a shout out to the to the Harlem Glowtrotter's team,
- 6:17Speaker 3: the office, to executives brom Win and Keith and the
- 6:20Speaker 3: team there they are. They're the architects of this because
- 6:24Speaker 3: you know, you got to think back to the pandemic, right,
- 6:26Speaker 3: you know, for a long time, the Harlem Glow Trotters
- 6:30Speaker 3: in the eighties were on sitcoms, were you know, in
- 6:33Speaker 3: your home, they were on Gilligan's Island, right, They were
- 6:37Speaker 3: celebrities in the way that NBA players are celebrities now.
- 6:41Speaker 3: And obviously the NBA got really popular and I kind
- 6:44Speaker 3: of really overtook them a lot of other sports and
- 6:47Speaker 3: other things. But the Harlem Glotrotters are way older than
- 6:50Speaker 3: the NBA. They you know, twenty thirty years older than
- 6:53Speaker 3: the NBA. You know, they're the ones that spread basketball
- 6:55Speaker 3: around the world.
- 6:56Speaker 2: We'll chang to play for the Harlem glow Charters.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Before he od lot of.
- 7:00Speaker 3: Year, it was like, you know, imagine like the WNBA
- 7:03Speaker 3: in some of these WBE players now they're getting their
- 7:05Speaker 3: salaries up for But for a long time, they would
- 7:07Speaker 3: play overseas and they would come over here, and that's
- 7:09Speaker 3: how it was with NBA early on. You know, they
- 7:12Speaker 3: would be like, I'm a hallan lowd trotter, but I
- 7:13Speaker 3: also playing this thing called the NBA too, right, But
- 7:18Speaker 3: obviously NBA has grown massively and now they have a
- 7:20Speaker 3: worldwide footprint as well. But I share that to say
- 7:24Speaker 3: for context, they disappeared from the spotlight, you know, as
- 7:27Speaker 3: far as being on television, you know, in the nineties
- 7:30Speaker 3: and in the early two thousands, et cetera. And there
- 7:33Speaker 3: was a concerted effort after the pandemic to bring them
- 7:36Speaker 3: back to the spotlight and get the folks, get folks
- 7:39Speaker 3: back interested in seeing them on television and seeing them
- 7:41Speaker 3: in media and not just going to the games. The
- 7:44Speaker 3: cool thing about their business though, is they never stopped touring.
- 7:47Speaker 3: They never stopped making people smile around the world. And
- 7:50Speaker 3: there's a lot of you know, youth every year that
- 7:52Speaker 3: their first basketball experience is the Hallan lolwd Trotter. So
- 7:55Speaker 3: I think that that there's this kind of nostalgia for
- 7:59Speaker 3: folks that have been wite some his kids, and with
- 8:01Speaker 3: the TV shows, we're bringing them back to the adults
- 8:03Speaker 3: and the adult experiences because these are grown folks that
- 8:06Speaker 3: know how to have fun and know how to you know,
- 8:09Speaker 3: dance and hang out and have good advice to give
- 8:12Speaker 3: and you know, so they're interesting individuals off the court
- 8:14Speaker 3: as well.
- 8:15Speaker 2: Great I'm talking recall O Handy. He's the executive producer
- 8:19Speaker 2: and the show runner of Harlem Glow Trail Secrets of
- 8:22Speaker 2: the City. Now here's the fun part about this. You know,
- 8:25Speaker 2: I grew up with Metal Locke Landham currently need the
- 8:28Speaker 2: Driven right now. I can visually just see these moments
- 8:31Speaker 2: man when he would do that hook shot from half
- 8:34Speaker 2: court and make it.
- 8:35Speaker 1: I was like, how how could he do that?
- 8:37Speaker 2: And consistently did that, you know, and the famous running
- 8:41Speaker 2: around with the bucket and then throw the bucket.
- 8:44Speaker 1: One time it was just it was just paper and
- 8:46Speaker 1: next time it's real water.
- 8:48Speaker 3: You know.
- 8:49Speaker 2: All those great moments still make me smile. And when
- 8:52Speaker 2: you look at the Hall of Glow Traders and they're traveling,
- 8:56Speaker 2: you're traveling with them. These are these are tall black men. Okay,
- 9:00Speaker 2: so immediately when they land into airport they get attention,
- 9:04Speaker 2: going to restaurant to get attention. How do you make
- 9:07Speaker 2: that work of people making decisions? Are they basketball players?
- 9:10Speaker 3: Are they?
- 9:10Speaker 1: Are they the Lakers?
- 9:11Speaker 3: Are they?
- 9:11Speaker 1: You know they just started well potentially you know their money, right, Yeah.
- 9:17Speaker 3: Depending on what country you're in with the Globetrotters, you know,
- 9:20Speaker 3: you might get mobbed, you know what I mean, Like
- 9:22Speaker 3: especially in Australia, the UK. You know, they sell out
- 9:26Speaker 3: the O two, you know, which is the big arena
- 9:28Speaker 3: in London. You know. So there's definitely cities and places
- 9:32Speaker 3: where where they're as big of a celebrity as anybody.
- 9:35Speaker 3: And when you walk it around you do have to
- 9:37Speaker 3: manage it. You know to say hey, no, no more autographs,
- 9:40Speaker 3: no more pictures, things like that and keep it moving.
- 9:42Speaker 3: But they're such nice guys, like genuine you know, guys
- 9:45Speaker 3: and girls to this. There are female Globe Trotters and
- 9:48Speaker 3: they they are just the nicest people you to me,
- 9:51Speaker 3: they were just warning genim that's part of I think
- 9:53Speaker 3: you've got to be a nice person to be a Globetrotter,
- 9:56Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And so they they are
- 9:58Speaker 3: you know, like I said that bachelors are good will,
- 10:00Speaker 3: so they don't mind it at all. And I think
- 10:02Speaker 3: it's a cool experience for the people because there's a
- 10:04Speaker 3: lot of it is family, you know, a lot of
- 10:06Speaker 3: young people. So you can't be uh, you know, you
- 10:09Speaker 3: can't be an a hole, you know, you gotta be.
- 10:10Speaker 2: Good, absolutely, And I think that's that's the responsibility that
- 10:14Speaker 2: comes on.
- 10:14Speaker 1: You know, you're gifted.
- 10:16Speaker 2: I remember a couple of years ago I had I
- 10:18Speaker 2: was doing a contract with their National Guard, and I
- 10:22Speaker 2: invited members of the Globe Trotters to just be introduced
- 10:26Speaker 2: to the audience on the campus of Clark Atlanta University.
- 10:30Speaker 2: And they're basketball skills. Let's forget the fact that the
- 10:34Speaker 2: personality they're just gifted individuals. From a basketball standpoint, Are
- 10:40Speaker 2: you ever some of those trick shots?
- 10:42Speaker 1: Read? Are you ever in all those things? I see
- 10:45Speaker 1: them on the YouTube, I'm going like, how does how
- 10:48Speaker 1: do they do that?
- 10:49Speaker 3: Well? Look, you shoot with them, you know, sometimes you
- 10:53Speaker 3: want to give it a shot right right. I remember
- 10:55Speaker 3: I was shooting with them one time, and they'll shoot
- 10:57Speaker 3: the ball from the baseline from the opposite in the
- 11:00Speaker 3: the court right and just and just shooting and make it.
- 11:03Speaker 3: I couldn't even get it all the way over to
- 11:05Speaker 3: the who right right right. My ball was falling short
- 11:10Speaker 3: of the of the area, you know, you know. So
- 11:12Speaker 3: it's not that they're athletic, you know what I mean?
- 11:15Speaker 3: And they and they and they and they train, you know,
- 11:17Speaker 3: they trained. They have a special boot camp they go
- 11:20Speaker 3: to to be a Harlem low trotter. And I got
- 11:22Speaker 3: to experience that boot camp. Okay, and that's serious.
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- 11:52Speaker 2: Conversations master class with me Rashawn McDonald now, because I
- 11:57Speaker 2: want to really bring that into perspective because the fact
- 12:00Speaker 2: that you know, you see brilliant talents like you know,
- 12:04Speaker 2: Steph Curry, you know he's shooting antics and I shouldn't
- 12:08Speaker 2: use the word antics, you know, because they're just incredibly
- 12:11Speaker 2: gifted talents. I just want to make sure that people
- 12:13Speaker 2: understand that they're in Bassidor's good wills. But these are
- 12:17Speaker 2: extremely talented athletes who play basketball.
- 12:22Speaker 1: Do the athletes who play the role? That's what they're playing?
- 12:26Speaker 3: A role?
- 12:27Speaker 2: You know, because they're not they're playing games against the
- 12:29Speaker 2: same people all the time. They're playing to win, they're
- 12:32Speaker 2: playing to entertain. What's that mindset as you're a producer
- 12:36Speaker 2: that you're trying to capture and also keep that energy
- 12:39Speaker 2: up consistently when you're all the show run of this
- 12:42Speaker 2: series and you're all the executive producer, you know, it's interesting.
- 12:47Speaker 3: I don't know if you're familiar with track right, but
- 12:49Speaker 3: like my son runs across country, okay, and it's still
- 12:53Speaker 3: a competitive sport, but mostly you're trying to pr which
- 12:57Speaker 3: is your meet your personal best, right right. And I
- 13:01Speaker 3: think that the Globetrotters are extremely competitive, not only with
- 13:06Speaker 3: each other, with the other teams, but you know, they
- 13:07Speaker 3: got to make all these shots. It's not you can't.
- 13:10Speaker 3: You can't pretend to shoot the ball and pretend to
- 13:12Speaker 3: make it. You've got to actually make the basketball. You
- 13:15Speaker 3: got to be able to dribble, you got to be
- 13:16Speaker 3: able to dunk, you got to be able to do
- 13:18Speaker 3: all these athletic things. And they keep out doing themselves.
- 13:22Speaker 3: You know, when you go see a glow Trotter show
- 13:24Speaker 3: now it's different in a whole other level than it
- 13:27Speaker 3: was you know when you may have seen it ten
- 13:28Speaker 3: years ago. And and I think that's what makes the Globetrotters,
- 13:33Speaker 3: you know, actual, the players who they are, because they're
- 13:36Speaker 3: they are really competitors, and they're masters at their craft
- 13:39Speaker 3: because they've been doing it for years. A lot of
- 13:41Speaker 3: these guys have in these players, they've been playing basketball
- 13:44Speaker 3: since they was young, you know, and uh and so
- 13:48Speaker 3: and so this is just you know, like like you said,
- 13:50Speaker 3: with Steph Curry, you know, he I think I think
- 13:52Speaker 3: he takes I don't know, some actronomical number of shots
- 13:55Speaker 3: a year for practice and then maybe ten percent or
- 13:58Speaker 3: five percent of those shots you know, actually in a game,
- 14:01Speaker 3: you know. And I think it's the same thing with
- 14:03Speaker 3: the glow Trotter. They're working hard off the court all
- 14:05Speaker 3: the time.
- 14:05Speaker 2: Let's go back to the show, because, like I said,
- 14:07Speaker 2: I you know when I you know read I'm telling you.
- 14:09Speaker 2: So it's kind of like a walk down memory lane
- 14:11Speaker 2: for a person my age talking to everybody who's hanging around,
- 14:15Speaker 2: people who I have respected all my life, their talent
- 14:18Speaker 2: and entertainment. Fact that we're talking about the whole of it,
- 14:21Speaker 2: Holland Grove, Driters, and then to see that they've been
- 14:23Speaker 2: able to sustain it for a hundred years, that means yeah.
- 14:26Speaker 3: I mean how many how many black businesses can we
- 14:29Speaker 3: say are one hundred years old, which which I think
- 14:32Speaker 3: is awesome, you know what I mean, Like, I think.
- 14:33Speaker 1: That recognizable, recognizable.
- 14:36Speaker 3: Recognizable too, Yeah, recognizable have still the admiration of the
- 14:40Speaker 3: audience and in all ages. So I mean that's why
- 14:43Speaker 3: I was like, whatever they need, I want to keep
- 14:45Speaker 3: help grow on the brand. And I want to.
- 14:48Speaker 2: Not just say black just one hundred years. We talked
- 14:51Speaker 2: about nighteen twenty six. Okay, you can start just naming Nate.
- 14:55Speaker 2: You're talking about Brand Rockefellers because series and closed came.
- 15:00Speaker 2: You know, all these these businesses that have been legendary
- 15:05Speaker 2: in that period have not stood the test of time.
- 15:08Speaker 2: And when you look at that, let's talk about you
- 15:11Speaker 2: kind of mention it when you was like talk about
- 15:13Speaker 2: the pope and different everythings. If these areas of the shows,
- 15:17Speaker 2: what is the just talk about what does an episode
- 15:20Speaker 2: feel like in general?
- 15:21Speaker 1: Because there's a travel show.
- 15:23Speaker 3: It's a travel show. But you know, one of the
- 15:25Speaker 3: elements of the show is called Secrets of the City
- 15:27Speaker 3: because we give you secrets. We literally you know, that's
- 15:32Speaker 3: when you watch the show, like you got to watch
- 15:33Speaker 3: the Mexico episode. You know, people have seen photos of
- 15:37Speaker 3: how you you know, can take a balloon hot air
- 15:41Speaker 3: balloon over the Pyramids the right right, so see, but like,
- 15:44Speaker 3: how do you do that? What's the best way to
- 15:46Speaker 3: do that? What are all the little secrets around that
- 15:50Speaker 3: area and the timing of how you should book it.
- 15:53Speaker 3: You know, we went to London and north of London,
- 15:59Speaker 3: you know those the little the rock structure that is
- 16:03Speaker 3: really popular. The name is escaping me right now. But
- 16:06Speaker 3: there's secrets to be able to get access to these
- 16:09Speaker 3: artifacts in these historical places. You know that people don't know,
- 16:14Speaker 3: you know, because you just go to the website and
- 16:16Speaker 3: you experience it like a tourist. But they they're haul
- 16:18Speaker 3: and glow trotters. When they go to the pyramids, they
- 16:20Speaker 3: ride dirt bikes right up to the base of the
- 16:22Speaker 3: pyramid and it's the whole little secret. It's called the
- 16:25Speaker 3: back alley of the back alley of the pyramids is
- 16:29Speaker 3: the way they went in and not the front, you know.
- 16:31Speaker 3: And so I think there's cool little little things like that, nuggets.
- 16:34Speaker 3: But also, you know, because because of the show and
- 16:38Speaker 3: the audience is an aspire, we're also giving you very
- 16:43Speaker 3: unique x BAT communities that you can connect with in
- 16:46Speaker 3: each city, very unique areas you should visit in each
- 16:49Speaker 3: city that have the diaspora and different historical elements. Like Brussels,
- 16:53Speaker 3: we talk about where the chocolate really comes from from
- 16:56Speaker 3: Africa and taking responsibility for that, you know what I mean.
- 16:59Speaker 3: So like it's just I think it's documenting all these
- 17:03Speaker 3: things that might be important to you, not only as
- 17:07Speaker 3: an individual that wants to travel, but as a part
- 17:10Speaker 3: of this larger African American and African diaspora.
- 17:13Speaker 1: Cool.
- 17:14Speaker 2: We're talking to the showrunner, executive producer. Been around for
- 17:17Speaker 2: twenty five years, That's what he's saying there, twenty five years.
- 17:19Speaker 2: But you know, they always know we've been hustling the
- 17:21Speaker 2: way longer than that. Recaller, you know, and you have
- 17:24Speaker 2: been a champion for opportunity. And I always tell people,
- 17:29Speaker 2: you know, I kind of really I kind of started
- 17:31Speaker 2: the show as a mentoring platform, be able to yeah,
- 17:34Speaker 2: the people ask me questions or how I get in
- 17:36Speaker 2: the industry. But you've been better than that. You've been
- 17:39Speaker 2: delivering the goods on giving people opportunities. You started a foundation.
- 17:44Speaker 2: Tell us why that is important because it's ongoing today
- 17:47Speaker 2: and the impact you've had in the industry over the years.
- 17:50Speaker 3: Recall them, Yeah, you know, I always say, you know,
- 17:53Speaker 3: a lot of people have a lot of complaints about
- 17:55Speaker 3: how hard it is to get in the industry, and
- 17:58Speaker 3: I've been very fortunate. You know, since I was fourteen
- 18:00Speaker 3: years old, I had really good mentors, people that took
- 18:04Speaker 3: me under their wing. You know, I was an eager kid,
- 18:07Speaker 3: so from working on independent films as a teenager to
- 18:12Speaker 3: being a part of these programs in high school that
- 18:15Speaker 3: allowed me to get on TV show sets and things
- 18:17Speaker 3: like that. It just it just seemed natural to me
- 18:21Speaker 3: that that's something we should do. So I've always done it,
- 18:24Speaker 3: you know, when I was a show runner, I would
- 18:25Speaker 3: get people chances, even on Secrets of the City. You know,
- 18:27Speaker 3: we have a lot of folks doing their job for
- 18:29Speaker 3: the first time. You know, I've always been the one
- 18:31Speaker 3: willing to give someone their first shot, because a lot
- 18:34Speaker 3: of times that's the hardest one to get. But we
- 18:37Speaker 3: formalized it into the Adie Foundation in twenty twenty because
- 18:42Speaker 3: there was a viral moment, but mainly it was a
- 18:45Speaker 3: realization that there aren't a lot of black folks in
- 18:47Speaker 3: post production because they don't get the opportunity to learn
- 18:50Speaker 3: how to do those skills in college. You know, in
- 18:53Speaker 3: film school. No one's teaching you how to group and
- 18:56Speaker 3: stink for American idol in film school, right and there's
- 19:00Speaker 3: there's a various particular skill and you can't get that
- 19:02Speaker 3: job unless you know how to do it. And so
- 19:04Speaker 3: we started training people and offering them to the industry,
- 19:07Speaker 3: and it started with a class of eight people. You know,
- 19:09Speaker 3: partner with the Urban League in twenty twenty and today,
- 19:14Speaker 3: you know, we have over four hundred alumni that are
- 19:16Speaker 3: working on all your favorite shows from the Michael Jackson
- 19:19Speaker 3: movie all the way to all the Power Universe shows
- 19:22Speaker 3: in twelve different occupations. We do hair and makeup and
- 19:25Speaker 3: so it's just really been growing. And now we're a
- 19:27Speaker 3: nationally recognized registered apprenticeship program partner with the California Film Commission,
- 19:32Speaker 3: and it's just amazing to see it grow. Now it's
- 19:34Speaker 3: this thing that's outside of me that's just growing and
- 19:36Speaker 3: I'm you know, watching it just can keep blossoming it,
- 19:39Speaker 3: which is awesome.
- 19:41Speaker 2: Well, you know, I really appreciate it. That's why they
- 19:43Speaker 2: bring it up. I know the current administration wants to,
- 19:45Speaker 2: like you remove color lines. I would tell people this,
- 19:48Speaker 2: I've been black all my life. And I say that
- 19:50Speaker 2: I make that statement because when I walk in the room,
- 19:53Speaker 2: you see me for my color verts and the other
- 19:56Speaker 2: people don't have that distinction. You know, they can work
- 19:59Speaker 2: a room and I don't know if they're Jewish or
- 20:01Speaker 2: do know if they Polish, Italian or French until they
- 20:04Speaker 2: tell me so. Because you can make a decision about
- 20:08Speaker 2: me based on stereotypes and based on what you preconceived
- 20:11Speaker 2: notions or an experience you may have had with another
- 20:14Speaker 2: person of color, then that that can hamper my opportunities.
- 20:18Speaker 2: What you're doing is significant, and I just wanted to
- 20:20Speaker 2: make sure that yes, you're a survivor, Yes you went
- 20:24Speaker 2: on MTV B E T, but you don't forget reed
- 20:27Speaker 2: and I want to make sure I congratulate you on it.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Give you a flowers, brother, because when you see people
- 20:34Speaker 2: you know and hopefully they're doing the same thing, you know,
- 20:36Speaker 2: hopefully they are understanding how they got in the business,
- 20:39Speaker 2: because that's important, and it's equally important that you representing
- 20:43Speaker 2: on a show like this. I'm sure as by our
- 20:46Speaker 2: TV had a lot of people they can come to,
- 20:48Speaker 2: but they got to get the most qualified person to
- 20:50Speaker 2: tell the Harlem glow Trotter story. That's important that you
- 20:54Speaker 2: didn't you earned this shot as a showrunner. You earned
- 20:56Speaker 2: this shot as a executive producer. Tell us about that.
- 21:00Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's interesting, Like I have
- 21:06Speaker 3: always been trying to understand how things work, you know,
- 21:11Speaker 3: and that's a lot of the decisions I made. A
- 21:13Speaker 3: lot of opportunities I went after were to get to
- 21:16Speaker 3: the point to understand the business and make those kind
- 21:21Speaker 3: of moves. So with my company, some Wise Media, you know,
- 21:24Speaker 3: we've been doing a lot of independent things, but we've
- 21:27Speaker 3: been blessed to be able to inform these partnerships because
- 21:30Speaker 3: it's trust there, you know. So this is actually a
- 21:33Speaker 3: really big factor of our business that people missed. Our
- 21:37Speaker 3: business is less about skills and creativity and more about trust. Yes, right,
- 21:42Speaker 3: And when people trust that you can do and actually
- 21:44Speaker 3: what you say you're going to do, they will partner
- 21:47Speaker 3: with you, you know, and as long as you come through.
- 21:49Speaker 3: And so as an editor, I built trust, you know.
- 21:52Speaker 3: And then that allowed me to produce a Kisha Cole
- 21:54Speaker 3: show because I was an editor and they wanted me
- 21:57Speaker 3: to edit the second season. I was like, I can't
- 21:59Speaker 3: edit the second season, and let's I'm producing it too,
- 22:00Speaker 3: because I want certain things to be a certch way.
- 22:02Speaker 3: So I became a producer and I'm producing a bet
- 22:05Speaker 3: And then you know, got to go to the development
- 22:08Speaker 3: and network side. Because I produced so many shows, I
- 22:12Speaker 3: was like, can you trust me with your network? So
- 22:14Speaker 3: there's Bounced TV now that trust me with their whole
- 22:16Speaker 3: slate of originals, you know, and so and so that's
- 22:21Speaker 3: kind of been the path I've been on, is really
- 22:23Speaker 3: building these strong relationships where people trust that I'm going
- 22:27Speaker 3: to deliver for them. And I think if you do
- 22:29Speaker 3: that in whatever business you do, whether you've got, you know,
- 22:31Speaker 3: a cupcake shop, are you trying to be, you know,
- 22:34Speaker 3: a producer or director. You want to build trust with
- 22:37Speaker 3: the distributors or the people that you need to trust
- 22:40Speaker 3: you to deliver so you can so you can do
- 22:42Speaker 3: your craft.
- 22:43Speaker 2: You've seen his work on MTV own BT and stars
- 22:47Speaker 2: hit series like Satsan Sinats. That was the last time
- 22:50Speaker 2: I interviewed him, and I don't want that to be
- 22:52Speaker 2: a long period break.
- 22:53Speaker 1: Like we have for this.
- 22:54Speaker 3: I'll be back anytime you want.
- 22:55Speaker 2: Thank you, brother, But right now he's on here talking
- 22:58Speaker 2: about the Harlem Globe Trotters. Secrets to the City is
- 23:02Speaker 2: a show on on Inspire TV. Thank you again, brother
- 23:04Speaker 2: for coming on my show, and thank you for being
- 23:06Speaker 2: a blessing man. Because when they told me this interview
- 23:09Speaker 2: came to me very quickly and they said Rashan and
- 23:11Speaker 2: they told me who it was. They told me the
- 23:13Speaker 2: subject matter, which was a Harlem glow Trotters, so organization
- 23:17Speaker 2: that you know for a fact, man, black Faces weren't
- 23:22Speaker 2: on TV for a long time as reg and when
- 23:24Speaker 2: Harlem Clobe Trotters were on TV on a regular I
- 23:28Speaker 2: could always count on every year seeing the Harlem Glow
- 23:31Speaker 2: Trotters on TV and then and they brightened my day.
- 23:34Speaker 2: And to see you bringing them back with Aspire TV plus,
- 23:38Speaker 2: you know, I guess being the.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Inspiration of it.
- 23:42Speaker 2: I want to thank you, brother, and congratulate both parties
- 23:44Speaker 2: for making this happen one hundred years.
- 23:46Speaker 1: Brother, I can't say that one hundred years.
- 23:49Speaker 3: And if you want to stay tapped in with what
- 23:50Speaker 3: we got going on, you can follow me at ricarlo
- 23:53Speaker 3: r I k r l O and aren't the Harlemlow
- 23:55Speaker 3: Trotters and follow Aspire TV as well. Like on the
- 23:58Speaker 3: social media.
- 23:59Speaker 2: You stay well well, I'm tapped in today, brother, and
- 24:02Speaker 2: we're gonna put the word out about it you and
- 24:03Speaker 2: let everybody know the great work you continue to do.
- 24:06Speaker 2: Let's say fifty years, I get the interview me and
- 24:08Speaker 2: you be sitting there and they with much much much
- 24:10Speaker 2: grayer hair, my brother, much much much grayer hair. But
- 24:13Speaker 2: continue work, continue great work, and thanks Inspired TV plus.
- 24:17Speaker 1: Bye bye, all right, thank you, thank you for listening
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