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Spending the Day w Trump, Elon & Rocket Ships, plus Alvin Bragg Continues his Lawlessness · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome.
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Speaker 2: It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, Senator,
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Speaker 2: you had one heck of a day and anybody that
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Speaker 2: was watching the SpaceX launch, so you standing right next
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Speaker 2: to President Trump and Elon Musk, this had to be
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Speaker 2: a very interesting day of conversations as you spent eleven
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Speaker 2: twelve hours with him.
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Speaker 3: Well, I did, and I'll tell you last night, I
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Speaker 3: was on the Senate floor till nearly midnight because Chuck
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Speaker 3: Schumer is ramming through a whole bunch of judges and
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Speaker 3: we were fighting him until midnight, kept the Democrats on
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Speaker 3: the Senate floor until midnight. And then this morning, I
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Speaker 3: woke up early, I got on a plane and I
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Speaker 3: flew from DC down to Palm Beach, and then I
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Speaker 3: flew with President Trump from Palm Beach to Brownsville, Texas
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Speaker 3: for the launch the SpaceX launch today, and spent the
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Speaker 3: afternoon with President Trump and Elon Musk, and then flew
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Speaker 3: back with President Trump to Palm Beach where I'm overnighting
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Speaker 3: and I'll be back in DC to So it was
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Speaker 3: a full day. It was a fascinating day, a lot
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Speaker 3: to talk about. We also are going to talk about
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Speaker 3: today Alvin Bragg's attempt to extend lawfair, to extend this
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Speaker 3: criminal trial for five years, to punt it down the road,
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Speaker 3: But we're going to talk about that as well.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going I got a lot of questions to
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Speaker 2: what I'm thinking and that is how does it work.
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Speaker 2: You go down to Florida, you meet at the tarmac,
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Speaker 2: and then you get on Trump Force one.
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Speaker 1: What is the process of that? Even?
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Speaker 3: Like so, that's exactly right, and the way it worked
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Speaker 3: is I got to call yesterday from Trump's team saying, hey,
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Speaker 3: you want to fly fly with the President down to
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Speaker 3: Texas and go to the launch.
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Speaker 4: And I said sure, And so I had to get
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Speaker 4: myself down here.
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Speaker 3: Uh, And so I flew in commercial down to Palm
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Speaker 3: Beach and then went over to the to the FBO
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Speaker 3: and met the President on Trump Force one. I have
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Speaker 3: to say, it's the first time I've been on Trump
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Speaker 3: Force one. I've been on Air Force one with him
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Speaker 3: a lot of times, but it's the first time I've
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Speaker 3: been on his campaign plane.
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Speaker 4: You know. It made me.
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Speaker 3: It reminded me of the first time I joined him
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Speaker 3: on Air Force one. And this was just, I don't know,
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Speaker 3: a couple of months after he became president in twenty seventeen,
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Speaker 3: and when I came on Air Force one, I said,
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Speaker 3: mister President, nice plane. And he looked at me and
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Speaker 3: laughed and said, yeah, my other one was nicer, And
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Speaker 3: I said, true, but that one didn't have missiles, which
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Speaker 3: he laughed as well. And I have to say his
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Speaker 3: having been on both Trump Force one is really nice.
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Speaker 3: It's a very well decked out. It's a beautiful plane
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Speaker 3: inside a lot of space. And so we sat sad
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Speaker 3: had about a two and a half three hour flight
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Speaker 3: to Texas and about the same back and so spent
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Speaker 3: a lot of time sitting in the plane talking. It
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Speaker 3: was beautiful. We were there also with a number of folks.
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Speaker 3: Don Junior came, Don Junior's eldest.
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Speaker 4: Or Kai came.
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Speaker 3: Uh. We we had Actually, you are going to be
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Speaker 3: very impressed.
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Speaker 4: By who came. Do you know who was there?
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Speaker 1: Who else?
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Speaker 4: Bryson Deschambeau.
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Speaker 1: Well, see that now I'm now I'm having fomo right now.
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Speaker 1: That's that.
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Speaker 2: And for people that don't know who Bryson is, Bryson
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Speaker 2: is a is a world class golfer. He has won majors,
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Speaker 2: uh and is and has been a huge Trump supporter
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Speaker 2: and loves hanging out with him.
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Speaker 1: They play golf together quite often.
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Speaker 4: Well, and he just won the US Open.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And and it was I'll tell you a good
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Speaker 3: chunk of the discussion. So so I was there were
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Speaker 3: four of us seated together and I was across from
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Speaker 3: Trump and Bryson was next to me.
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Speaker 4: A good chunk of the conversation was about.
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Speaker 3: Their golf game and and he he and Trump play
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Speaker 3: a lot, and what do you think Bryson drives?
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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go three forty would probably be somewhere
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Speaker 2: in that area. I mean, the guy just hammers the ball,
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Speaker 2: and he had he's had some that have been three
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Speaker 2: seventy five, three eighty as well.
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Speaker 3: He said he drives pretty consistently three fifty to three sixty.
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Speaker 1: There you go.
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Speaker 2: And that yeah, with technology now, he's getting better every year.
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Speaker 2: That makes sense, and that is insane. If you've ever
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Speaker 2: played golf, you know, I mean I hit the ball
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Speaker 2: pretty decent and my average drive is like.
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Speaker 1: Two sixty five. So he's got a hundred yards on that.
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Speaker 4: Trump was saying, you play a part four and he's
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Speaker 4: on the green and one.
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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. So he just went to go watch the
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Speaker 2: launch as well. That's so much fun.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: No, he's he is, and he's a he's a Texan
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Speaker 3: and he went to SMU. He's from California originally, so
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Speaker 3: I didn't know him, but I hung out with him.
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Speaker 4: He was a great guy.
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Speaker 3: I really enjoyed hanging out with him. Linda McMahon was
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Speaker 3: on the plane. Now, Linda McMahon was just announced as
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Speaker 3: as the new Secretary of Education. I know lynd under
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Speaker 3: the first administration, she was the administrator of the Small
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Speaker 3: Business Administration. And actually Trump told us on the plane,
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Speaker 3: he said, well, what do you think Linda's going to
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Speaker 3: be our new Secretary of Education? What do you think
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Speaker 3: of that? And we were like great. In fact, he
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Speaker 3: was talking with Linda. Do we put this out today?
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Speaker 3: We put it out tomorrow, And they ended up putting
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Speaker 3: it out today, so the news broke. She's going to
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Speaker 3: be terrific at that, and so that was a good discussion,
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Speaker 3: and so I had a good chance. I know Linda
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Speaker 3: well and she's she's been sharing the board of the
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Speaker 3: American First Policy Institute, so she's been very engaged with
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Speaker 3: the president. She's helped leading she's helping lead the transition
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Speaker 3: team for President Trump. And Linda and I talked quite
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Speaker 3: a bit about the legislation that I authored during the
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Speaker 3: first Trump administration that that would be the most far
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Speaker 3: reaching federal school choice legislation that's ever passed, and it
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Speaker 3: was legislation that I announced with Betsy de vas Trump's
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Speaker 3: first Secretary of Education at the Department of Education, and
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Speaker 3: it became the Trump administration's lead school choice proposal was
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Speaker 3: my legislation, and in fact, he talked about it in
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Speaker 3: one of the State of the Union addresses, and so
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Speaker 3: Lenna and I talked about that and working to push
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Speaker 3: for school choice, to expand the options for students and
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Speaker 3: working together on that.
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Speaker 2: And she's an advocate for her school choice from what
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Speaker 2: I've read, is that correct? I mean, that's something that
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Speaker 2: certainly she is saying, yes, I like this idea.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she is certainly an advocate for school choice. And
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Speaker 3: she also has been an advocate for workforce training and education.
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Speaker 3: That's something she's done a lot of at America First
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Speaker 3: Policy Institute. And the proposal that I authored, what it
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Speaker 3: consists of is federal tax credits dollar for dollar tax
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Speaker 3: credits ten billion dollars a year, so one hundred billion
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Speaker 3: dollars over ten years. Five billion of it is focused
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Speaker 3: on K through twelve education, and five billion of it
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Speaker 3: is focused on workforce development education. And the way the
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Speaker 3: legislation is structured, each state can choose whether to opt
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Speaker 3: in or not, so it's not forced on the states,
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Speaker 3: and the states can opt into the K through twelve
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Speaker 3: part or the Workforce Development part, or both. And the
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Speaker 3: way it operates is once the state opts in, any
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Speaker 3: individual or corporation that makes a contribution to a scholarship
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Speaker 3: granting organization in that state gets a dollar for dollar
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Speaker 3: tax credit on their federal taxes. And so what it
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Speaker 3: results in is ten billion dollars in additional resources going
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Speaker 3: to education and school choice. The way it is drafted, however,
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Speaker 3: the federal government stays out of the business of curriculum.
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Speaker 3: The federal government has no control, no strings over what's taught.
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Speaker 3: The only requirement is that for the states to participate,
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Speaker 3: they cannot discriminate against private schools.
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Speaker 4: Or religious schools. They have to let parents and students decide.
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Speaker 3: And if they do that, the money flows, and it
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Speaker 3: would be transformational. To give you a sense of what
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Speaker 3: it means means for a state the size of Texas.
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Speaker 3: Texas is about ten percent of the national population. The
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Speaker 3: money is allocated pro rata, so that would mean about
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Speaker 3: a billion dollars a year in additional scholarships going to
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Speaker 3: young people and adults in.
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Speaker 4: The state of Texas, which would be really, really potent.
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Speaker 2: So let's talk about that reform since you mentioned her name.
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Speaker 2: And this is the best part about this show is
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Speaker 2: we get to, you know, go down these rabbit holes.
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Speaker 2: There has been such just fervor from the left to
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Speaker 2: not move towards school choice because it's all about the teachers' unions.
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Speaker 2: It's all about putting the unions first instead of the kids.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of kids in failing schools. There's a
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Speaker 2: lot of African American kids, minority kids. The stand of
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Speaker 2: kids that are in failing schools as well. Is there
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Speaker 2: the political will power this go around to actually do it,
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Speaker 2: because look, I've seen a lot of concerns say, oh,
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Speaker 2: they like the idea a keyword idea of school choice,
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Speaker 2: but when it comes down to it, they're afraid their Gunshi.
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Speaker 2: Do you feel like we're seeing a turn now, especially
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Speaker 2: if you have a Secretary of Education that's on board
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Speaker 2: with it as well.
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Speaker 3: So at the state level, definitely, at the federal level,
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Speaker 3: it's still going to be a challenge. Let's talk about
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Speaker 3: the state level for a minute. I think next year
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Speaker 3: Texas is going to pass landmark school choice legislation and
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Speaker 3: that's something I've been incredibly active in and so going
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Speaker 3: down this rabbit hole, as you mentioned in the state legislature.
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Speaker 3: So out of one hundred senators, to the best of
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Speaker 3: my knowledge, ninety nine of them avoid making endorsements and
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Speaker 3: primaries in their states and state legislative races.
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Speaker 4: And there's a reason for that. Bennett.
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Speaker 3: You're a US senator and you make endorsements and primaries
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Speaker 3: in your state.
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Speaker 4: It is a political loser for you.
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Speaker 3: The rule of thumb is when you make an endorsement,
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Speaker 3: you get half their friends and all their enemies. And
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Speaker 3: so most people don't do that, they stay out of primaries.
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Speaker 3: I am the only exception of which I'm aware, and
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Speaker 3: I regularly I make many, many endorsements in primaries in
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Speaker 3: the state House and the state Senate. And I make
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Speaker 3: those endorsements based on a single criteria, which is school choice.
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Speaker 3: I think school choice is the civil rights issue of
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Speaker 3: the twenty first century, and I am absolutely committed to
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Speaker 3: fighting for school choice. I think every child should have
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Speaker 3: the right to have access to an excellent education, regardless
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Speaker 3: of their raiths, their ethnicity, their wealth, their zip code.
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Speaker 3: And so the way I do it in Texas, it
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Speaker 3: is every two years. Every election cycle, I have my
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Speaker 3: team prepare an Excel spreadsheet of every vote that every
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Speaker 3: state legislator and every state senator is cast on school choice.
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Speaker 3: And if you've voted in favor of school choice, and
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Speaker 3: you're otherwise relatively conservative, you are very likely to get
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Speaker 3: my support. If, on the other hand, you voted against
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Speaker 3: school choice, the chances of your getting my support are zero.
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Speaker 3: And if you have anything resembling a credible primary challenger,
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Speaker 3: I am quite likely to support that primary challenger. And
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Speaker 3: when I do so, I don't do so gently.
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Speaker 4: I come in.
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Speaker 3: I'll often cut radio ads or TV ads. I'll come
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Speaker 3: in and actively campaign. And I'll tell you, over the
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Speaker 3: last two cycles, we have repeatedly beaten incumbent state legislators
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Speaker 3: who opposed school choice. Two years ago, we almost passed
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Speaker 3: school choice in Texas, but it failed because a bunch
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Speaker 3: of Republicans voted against it. And this cycle I endorsed
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Speaker 3: against those Republicans, so did Greg Abbott, the governor. He
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Speaker 3: jumped in this time and we beat almost every one
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Speaker 3: of them. And I actually think the opponents of school
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Speaker 3: choice are going to regret killing it two years ago,
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Speaker 3: because I think what passes in Texas this spring is
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Speaker 3: going to be much bigger and bolder, and I'm hopeful
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Speaker 3: will be the biggest and boldest school choice program in America.
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Speaker 1: So stay does that become the blueprint then?
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Speaker 2: And part of the reason why you've taken these political
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Speaker 2: risks and hit and doing what you decided to do
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Speaker 2: with in these primaries, I'm guessing is because you want
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Speaker 2: Texas to be the beacon for the blueprint for the
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Speaker 2: way to get this done state by stake.
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Speaker 4: Correct, Yes, Texas should be leading.
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Speaker 3: And one of the things to remember, Texas has about
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Speaker 3: ten percent of the school kids in the entire country.
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Speaker 4: So when Texas leads, when we pass.
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Speaker 3: The biggest and boldest school choice program, that is going
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Speaker 3: to impact the whole country profoundly. Now, at the federal level,
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Speaker 3: at the federal level, the pass legislation, you've got to
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Speaker 3: get it through the Senate, which means you've got to
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Speaker 3: overcome a fellibuster, which means you've got to get some Democrats.
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Speaker 3: Right now, we do not have any Democrats, not even
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Speaker 3: one in the Senate.
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Speaker 4: Who supports school choice.
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Speaker 3: Part of the reason my legislation combines K through twelve
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Speaker 3: education with workforce development is with the workflow development. I'm
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Speaker 3: trying to broaden the coalition. The Democrats are perfectly happy
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Speaker 3: to tell African American kids and Hispanic kids and their
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Speaker 3: parents go jump in the lake. We're not going to
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Speaker 3: do anything for you, because we're bought and paid for
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Speaker 3: by the teacher junions, and so we get no Democrats
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Speaker 3: because of that. I'm trying to expand it so we
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Speaker 3: get the trade unions and construction unions. All of them
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Speaker 3: care a lot about workforce development, and they are historically
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Speaker 3: significant constituents of Democrats. I'm trying to expand the political coalition.
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Speaker 3: That being said, we still have a significant journey to go,
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Speaker 3: so I think I'm much more optimistic at the state
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Speaker 3: level than the federal level. Now let's talk more about
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Speaker 3: the plane trip with President Trump. I'll tell you just
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Speaker 3: mood wise, the President was in a great mood. He
15:52
Speaker 3: was laughing, he was as happy and relaxed as I've
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Speaker 3: ever seen him.
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Speaker 4: As I said, we were talking about golf quite a bit.
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Speaker 3: It we were hanging out. He was he was glowing
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Speaker 3: in the election results.
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Speaker 4: I saw him.
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Speaker 3: I think two weeks before the election was the last
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Speaker 3: time i'd seen him, So I hadn't seen him since
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Speaker 3: the election. I've talked to him since the election, but
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Speaker 3: this is the first time I saw him in person.
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Speaker 3: And he was he was just he was justifiably really
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Speaker 3: happy about the election results.
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Speaker 4: And and and we.
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Speaker 3: Were talking about how it's a mandate, about about how
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Speaker 3: his election results, how winning the Senate, the House, and
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Speaker 3: how he's winning the popular vote, how he's winning all.
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Speaker 4: Seven of the swing states.
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Speaker 3: Really is a mandate to deliver on our promises and
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Speaker 3: and and that was a big part of what we
16:39
Speaker 3: talked about on the plane.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about also policies and cabinet. You mentioned
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Speaker 2: he you know, you guys are on the plane he
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Speaker 2: named one. Does he does he talk policy with you.
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Speaker 1: And with everybody around?
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Speaker 2: Is he talking about cabinet positions that are still left
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Speaker 2: and open and need to be filled? Or is he
16:57
Speaker 2: talking about confirmations and and how that's going to I mean,
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Speaker 2: I mean, how how organized is it when it comes
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Speaker 2: to just or is he just picking your brain saying
17:04
Speaker 2: all right, what are we up against?
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Speaker 1: What do we need to do next?
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Speaker 4: So look, we're just sitting there.
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Speaker 3: It's, you know, a three hour plane ride, so you're
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Speaker 3: just talking back and forth.
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Speaker 4: You're you're you're hanging out and and talking.
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Speaker 3: He mentioned at the beginning of the plane ride, he said,
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Speaker 3: RFK really wants doctor oz uh To to to be
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Speaker 3: his right hand and and and so he asked what
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Speaker 3: we thought of that. I said, I I don't know
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Speaker 3: Oz personally, but he seems like an impressive guy, seems
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Speaker 3: like a good communicator.
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Speaker 4: I was obviously a medical.
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Speaker 3: Doctor who who knows how to communicate issues of healthcare effectively,
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Speaker 3: which is.
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Speaker 4: Something that that I think is very valuable.
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Speaker 3: And so he showed us, for example, a statement that
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Speaker 3: that they were going to put out that he was
17:45
Speaker 3: like writing right there on the plane and he he
17:48
Speaker 3: would be with his comm.
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Speaker 4: Staff and they'd come up with a statement they put
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Speaker 4: it out.
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Speaker 3: And I mean, it's a wild thing where where where
17:54
Speaker 3: he composes a statement or a tweet that goes out
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Speaker 3: and like five minutes later, you know, the TV on
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Speaker 3: the plane is on and there's there's the news with
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Speaker 3: his statement boom right on the TV. And so the
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Speaker 3: news broke that doctor oz was what was was gonna
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Speaker 3: be Rfk's right hand at Health and Human Services and.
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Speaker 2: That and I know you guys, you had it on
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Speaker 2: CNN and MSNBC. Right, No Fox on the plane right.
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Speaker 3: All Fox, thankfully, Although we did talk some about Joff
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Speaker 3: Scarborough and Mika going down to to mar A Lago
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Speaker 3: and we were kind of laughing about that.
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Speaker 2: And what did he say about it? Because it was
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Speaker 2: and we know what they said on TV about it.
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Speaker 2: What did he say about it? Why was there why
18:34
Speaker 2: what was the logic behind having that meeting?
18:38
Speaker 4: Look, he didn't say a lot.
18:40
Speaker 3: He was pretty gracious about it. It was I will say,
18:45
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18:48
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18:50
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18:54
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18:56
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19:01
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19:04
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19:08
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19:12
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19:15
Speaker 4: You'll never be forgiven for this?
19:16
Speaker 3: And I will say we all got a pretty hearty
19:19
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19:23
Speaker 3: on the left, who are angry they're angry at the voters,
19:26
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19:29
Speaker 4: At the world right now for where we are.
19:31
Speaker 3: And I think in mind you, Joe and Nika, we're
19:35
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19:40
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19:42
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19:47
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19:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, hang out with Hitler and come back and say
19:51
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19:53
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19:56
Speaker 2: And I think that's part of the reason why there
19:58
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20:01
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20:04
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20:07
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20:09
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20:11
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20:14
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20:18
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20:21
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20:23
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Speaker 2: slash verdict. So let's talk about this. It's not just
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22:19
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22:27
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22:31
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, and we spent a good chunk of the
22:33
Speaker 3: plane ride, also talking about number one, how to resolve
22:36
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22:40
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22:43
Speaker 3: is getting dangerous where we are in these next two months.
22:47
Speaker 3: But also talking about how to end the war in Israel,
22:49
Speaker 3: how to defeat himas and get the hostages back. And
22:51
Speaker 3: so we had a really robust conversation on both of
22:55
Speaker 3: those fronts, and those are major foreign policy challenges that
22:59
Speaker 3: Trump was inheriting, and I have predicted for a long
23:03
Speaker 3: time that both of those wars will come to an
23:05
Speaker 3: end in the next year and maybe even sooner than that,
23:08
Speaker 3: because they were both caused I think fundamentally by the
23:13
Speaker 3: weakness of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, the.
23:15
Speaker 4: Weakness of our commander in chief.
23:17
Speaker 3: And I think having a strong commander in chief is
23:20
Speaker 3: going to dramatically alter how our enemies behave and bring
23:25
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23:26
Speaker 4: So we talked about that at considerable length.
23:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can see people taking his lead at Germany,
23:31
Speaker 2: even talking with Russia saying maybe it's time to wind
23:33
Speaker 2: this thing down. That's not something they'd said before. So
23:36
Speaker 2: let's talk about confirmations. For a second, what does the
23:41
Speaker 2: schedule look like right now? And I'm sure this had
23:45
Speaker 2: to be part of the conversation because he names people.
23:47
Speaker 2: And then what you do next is you go meet
23:50
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23:54
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23:57
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23:59
Speaker 3: Sure that is moving forward. And what's going to happen
24:03
Speaker 3: is at the beginning of January, the new Congress will
24:05
Speaker 3: be sworn in, So the new Congress will be sworn
24:07
Speaker 3: in before Trump is, and so we will begin in
24:11
Speaker 3: the Senate hearings on the people he's name to the
24:15
Speaker 3: cabinet even before he's president. Now, we can't confirm anyone
24:19
Speaker 3: before he's president because he can't nominate anyone until he
24:21
Speaker 3: is president. But we can do the hearings the first
24:24
Speaker 3: couple of weeks of January, and I fully anticipate that's
24:27
Speaker 3: what the Senate will do, so that we can move
24:29
Speaker 3: expeditiously with confirmations, in particular of the top cabinet appointments.
24:34
Speaker 3: And so we talked about that at considerable length as well.
24:39
Speaker 3: And then I got to tell you when we landed
24:41
Speaker 3: in Texas, and we landed in Brownsville. Brownsville, as you know,
24:45
Speaker 3: is the southern tip of Texas, and it's where SpaceX
24:49
Speaker 3: at Boca Chica has built their launch site and has
24:53
Speaker 3: built a factory.
24:54
Speaker 4: And the factory is where they build.
24:57
Speaker 3: Starships, which are massive that that they're the largest rockets
25:02
Speaker 3: in the world.
25:02
Speaker 4: They're absolutely massive. Uh.
25:05
Speaker 3: They build them there, and it's where the launch was
25:07
Speaker 3: and and and the size of it just the rocket
25:10
Speaker 3: booster has thirty three Raptor engines in it.
25:15
Speaker 4: Wow.
25:15
Speaker 3: And each of those Raptor engines produces twice as much
25:19
Speaker 3: thrust as all four engines on a seven forty seven. So,
25:25
Speaker 3: I mean, it is incredible the power that comes out
25:29
Speaker 3: of the engines. And by the way, SpaceX makes those engines,
25:31
Speaker 3: they make the boosters, they make, they make the starship.
25:34
Speaker 3: And so we were gathered at the observation deck to
25:39
Speaker 3: watch the launch. And the observation deck is a couple
25:42
Speaker 3: of miles away from the launch because you can't be
25:44
Speaker 3: too close the noise it is too great. And so
25:48
Speaker 3: we you know, saw the launch control room and and
25:51
Speaker 3: and then stood there with it with Elon and he
25:53
Speaker 3: was telling us about all the challenges and listen, they're
25:56
Speaker 3: still in the in the testing mode.
25:58
Speaker 4: I mean, this is this is.
25:59
Speaker 3: A star ship that that that Elon hopes and intends
26:03
Speaker 3: to take to Mars. And so they are testing that
26:06
Speaker 3: that they're improving, for example, the the the ceramic heat
26:10
Speaker 3: shield tiles that are on the starship. They're improving their thrusters,
26:13
Speaker 3: and then they're experimenting and learning what works, and so
26:17
Speaker 3: we you know, look, Elon was was very honest. He said,
26:20
Speaker 3: look at a test like this, we don't know what happens.
26:22
Speaker 3: And sometimes when you're testing rockets, you know, rockets can
26:25
Speaker 3: blow up.
26:26
Speaker 4: It's why you test them to.
26:27
Speaker 3: Make sure that that that that if they do have
26:29
Speaker 3: a problem, that they have a problem before you have
26:33
Speaker 3: a man's crew on it. And there was no man
26:36
Speaker 3: crew on this launch. But you're testing different different technology
26:39
Speaker 3: to see how it operates. And so we stood there
26:41
Speaker 3: and watched the launch, and people all around the world
26:43
Speaker 3: watch the launch. The launch was successful. It was amazing
26:47
Speaker 3: to watch. We saw it. What was really striking is
26:50
Speaker 3: you see it and then then it takes several seconds
26:53
Speaker 3: for the sound to travel that distance. So it's already
26:57
Speaker 3: and I mean you're literally even at a cut several
26:59
Speaker 3: miles away, like like the ground is shaking from the
27:03
Speaker 3: force of the rocket launch.
27:05
Speaker 4: And Elon is someone whom I know.
27:07
Speaker 3: Well, I've spent a lot of time with Elon, but
27:10
Speaker 3: every time I'm with him, the guy is just so
27:12
Speaker 3: friggin smart. I mean, it's look, Ben, I've been blessed
27:17
Speaker 3: to get to know a lot of really scary smart people,
27:21
Speaker 3: and I got to say, Elon is just in a
27:23
Speaker 3: class all by himself. I mean, it's the guy just
27:28
Speaker 3: thinks it's not even outside the box. He doesn't know
27:31
Speaker 3: there's a box.
27:31
Speaker 4: He just you look at.
27:33
Speaker 3: Something like rocket ships. Everyone fired rockets in the air
27:37
Speaker 3: and then the boosters fell and you just discarded them
27:39
Speaker 3: and you did it again, and so every rocket was
27:41
Speaker 3: a single use rocket, and and Elon revolutionized said well,
27:45
Speaker 3: wait a second, why do we have to have single
27:47
Speaker 3: use rockets? Why not fire rocket in the air and
27:49
Speaker 3: then have it come down, and why not catch it
27:52
Speaker 3: out of the air with giant robot arms which he
27:55
Speaker 3: calls chopsticks. And everyone said, Okay, that's absurd, that's insane.
27:58
Speaker 3: Nobody can do that. That doesn't make any sense. And
28:00
Speaker 3: of course that's exactly what Elon built, and it's it
28:04
Speaker 3: has so changed it was kind of funny. Elon referred
28:06
Speaker 3: several times, uh to the to this as alien technology
28:10
Speaker 3: and and and you know it, I don't think that's
28:12
Speaker 3: too much of an exaggeration watching it, so we all
28:17
Speaker 3: watched an amazement as.
28:20
Speaker 2: As as we were watching it, or I was watching
28:22
Speaker 2: on TV, and many others were. I do have to
28:24
Speaker 2: say one of the most fun parts for me of
28:27
Speaker 2: watching you know, Trump and you and everybody there is
28:30
Speaker 2: just the boy boyhood excitement is and I say that
28:34
Speaker 2: in the in the in the the most sincere and
28:38
Speaker 2: authentic way ever on the faces of everyone that was.
28:41
Speaker 1: Able to watch this.
28:42
Speaker 2: I don't care who you are, just getting to watch
28:45
Speaker 2: it and to see Elon's face and in your face
28:48
Speaker 2: and President Trump's face and others that were around you guys.
28:50
Speaker 2: I saw Haggarty there for example. It was just the
28:54
Speaker 2: moment of like, this is unbelievable.
28:57
Speaker 3: Well, and it was traveling, so the starship itself traveled
29:02
Speaker 3: halfway around the world.
29:04
Speaker 4: The booster separated.
29:06
Speaker 3: We saw the booster separate, and initially the plan was
29:10
Speaker 3: that it was going to go down and be caught
29:13
Speaker 3: by the robot arms where it had been launched, and
29:15
Speaker 3: in fact it separates. So the booster was attached to
29:18
Speaker 3: the starship for a minute and a half and then
29:20
Speaker 3: it separated, and we initially got the call catches a go,
29:24
Speaker 3: which we were excited about because they only tried to
29:27
Speaker 3: catch it if all the conditions are right. And so
29:29
Speaker 3: they were going to catch the booster, and then they
29:32
Speaker 3: ended up altering the plan and not doing the catch,
29:35
Speaker 3: but having it instead landed the Gulf of Mexico, and
29:38
Speaker 3: so the conditions were slightly.
29:39
Speaker 4: Off, and so they had it landed the gulf.
29:41
Speaker 3: But Elon was really happy because it landed in the gulf,
29:45
Speaker 3: but it did not explode, and last time when it
29:48
Speaker 3: landed the golf, it did explode. And so look, they're
29:50
Speaker 3: testing different things to see what happens. And it was interesting.
29:53
Speaker 3: It floats in the water, and I was asking Elon
29:55
Speaker 3: why does it float? He says, well, look, once once
29:58
Speaker 3: the liquid methane and liquid oxygen is out, he said,
30:02
Speaker 3: it has the density essentially of an empty beer can.
30:05
Speaker 3: And so just like you throw an empty beer can
30:07
Speaker 3: on the water and it floats, that's the same thing
30:09
Speaker 3: as the booster. And so they're going and salvaging the
30:13
Speaker 3: booster and discovering Okay, what happened? What's going on there?
30:17
Speaker 3: So that landed pretty quickly. The starship traveled for about
30:21
Speaker 3: an hour and it landed.
30:24
Speaker 2: I think about go inside after how long were you outside?
30:29
Speaker 1: And then where did you get to watch the second part?
30:32
Speaker 4: So we were outside.
30:35
Speaker 3: We arrived probably an hour before the launch, and so
30:37
Speaker 3: we were talking with Elon and we were in the
30:40
Speaker 3: control room and just having conversations, and we watched lunch,
30:44
Speaker 3: and we watched the booster separate, and.
30:47
Speaker 4: Then we watched the booster come down, although.
30:49
Speaker 3: We couldn't see the booster landed far enough out in
30:52
Speaker 3: the gulf that we couldn't see with our naked eye
30:53
Speaker 3: the booster landing in the water, but we had the
30:56
Speaker 3: video on a.
30:57
Speaker 4: Big screen, so we were watching it there.
30:59
Speaker 3: And then what we did, because you had about an
31:01
Speaker 3: hour while the starship was traveling in space and it
31:05
Speaker 3: was going about twenty six thousand kilometers an hour. It
31:08
Speaker 3: was about one hundred and sixty kilometers above planet Earth.
31:12
Speaker 3: One of the things Elon said is that the starship
31:14
Speaker 3: was traveling about ten times the speed of a bullet
31:19
Speaker 3: out of an assault rifle, which there's an analogy you
31:22
Speaker 3: can understand. Ben and as find out. Junior was laughing, going,
31:26
Speaker 3: all right, that makes sense to me too.
31:28
Speaker 4: But that's fast.
31:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fast on a whole nother level. And so
31:33
Speaker 2: you got to watch all of this take place. How
31:36
Speaker 2: important is this just this technology and the fact that
31:39
Speaker 2: it's being done in Texas, because that is the reason
31:43
Speaker 2: why you were on that plane. That's why they asked
31:45
Speaker 2: you to go down there, because this is in Texas.
31:48
Speaker 2: I don't think people realize what this is doing for
31:51
Speaker 2: the Texas economy as well.
31:54
Speaker 4: So it is incredible.
31:55
Speaker 3: And while the starship was flying halfway around the world,
32:00
Speaker 3: left the launch observation site, we went to the factory,
32:04
Speaker 3: which is right at the launch site now the factory,
32:07
Speaker 3: so five years ago this was essentially an empty beach,
32:11
Speaker 3: like just sand and nothing was on it. And in
32:15
Speaker 3: five years Elon has built this incredible and I've been
32:19
Speaker 3: to it before, I've toured it before, but it is
32:23
Speaker 3: it takes your breath away. They are manufacturing about one
32:27
Speaker 3: rocket ship a month, and then these things are massive.
32:30
Speaker 3: So you go into the factory and there I think
32:33
Speaker 3: it was twenty two stories high. As how tall the
32:36
Speaker 3: booster is, I mean it just goes up and up
32:38
Speaker 3: and up and up, and it's huge. And you know,
32:42
Speaker 3: we went in and saw and they are manufacturing them
32:45
Speaker 3: to a level of precision down to the tenth of
32:48
Speaker 3: a millimeter. I mean, you think about this, it's not
32:50
Speaker 3: like it's not like SpaceX is making just widgets. I mean,
32:54
Speaker 3: if a screw is wrong, the damn think can blow up.
32:58
Speaker 3: There's so many ways for something to go wrong. And
33:03
Speaker 3: and they have a level of precision that is just astonishing.
33:08
Speaker 3: And so we went in and saw and toured. And
33:12
Speaker 3: one of the things Elon said is is, look, they're
33:14
Speaker 3: doing launch after launch after launch and everyone they're improving
33:17
Speaker 3: the technology and they're trying different things. So one of
33:19
Speaker 3: the things they did on this one is they're testing
33:23
Speaker 3: different angles of re entry to see, Okay, if you
33:27
Speaker 3: angle the starship at a slightly different angle, is there
33:30
Speaker 3: more heat, is there less heat? What what happens? You know,
33:33
Speaker 3: what what's the optimum angle? So they're trying all sorts
33:36
Speaker 3: of different things. So we we toured those facilities. By
33:40
Speaker 3: the way, they like basically built a whole town. They
33:43
Speaker 3: built housing for the employees. One of the things Elon
33:47
Speaker 3: said that that you know, is a challenge when you're
33:49
Speaker 3: recruiting the best engineers and rocket scientists, and they're literally
33:53
Speaker 3: rocket scientists.
33:55
Speaker 4: Is he said, you've got to.
33:56
Speaker 3: Find a place that that there significant others want to live.
33:59
Speaker 3: And so they basically built the whole community with like
34:02
Speaker 3: houses all around there and like, I didn't go this time,
34:05
Speaker 3: but I've been previously.
34:06
Speaker 4: They have like a little.
34:07
Speaker 3: Tiki bar that's sort of a club that that that
34:11
Speaker 3: the employees can go and hang out. And then you know,
34:13
Speaker 3: he said, look, you gotta you have to create an
34:15
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34:18
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34:21
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34:23
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34:25
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34:32
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34:36
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34:42
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34:45
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34:48
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34:51
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34:57
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35:02
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35:06
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Speaker 1: All right, final question on this trip.
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Speaker 2: So you get done with all this excitement and then
37:34
Speaker 2: this is still kind of awesome. You get back on
37:37
Speaker 2: Trump Force one and you fly back to Florida. What
37:41
Speaker 2: was the conversation like on the way home again?
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Speaker 4: It was relaxed. We're having fun, We're talking.
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Speaker 3: You know, we had had Fox on and so we're
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Speaker 3: watching Jesse Waters, Lori Ingram and Hannity. We're talking about
37:54
Speaker 3: all that and just sort of rifting back and forth.
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Speaker 3: You know. As we were landing, Trump began playing music.
38:02
Speaker 3: And so when he's standing at mar a Lago, Trump
38:04
Speaker 3: likes to basically be the DJ, and he has an
38:06
Speaker 3: iPad there that he controls the music at Marlago and
38:09
Speaker 3: they'll sit there at the table and just play the
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Speaker 3: songs he wants to listen to. And so as we
38:14
Speaker 3: were landing in Palm Beach, he put on guns N' Roses,
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Speaker 3: a music video that he loves from guns N' Roses,
38:21
Speaker 3: and then he put on another music video from Pabroti,
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Speaker 3: which would you want to talk about some breadth in
38:27
Speaker 3: music Taste. That's what we were listening to as we
38:32
Speaker 3: went wheels down back in Florida.
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Speaker 2: Now, did you eat any McDonald's, Because there's a lot
38:36
Speaker 2: of pictures that get taken on Trump forts one eat McDonald's.
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Speaker 4: We did not. Our dinner instead was Waterburger because we
38:42
Speaker 4: were in Texas.
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Speaker 1: Dammit, I love it. See I set you up perfect
38:46
Speaker 1: for that answer.
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Speaker 4: So the answer to that, did you?
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Speaker 1: I know?
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Speaker 2: But I set you up there perfectly. So what did
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Speaker 2: he say about Waburger compared to McDonald's. Was it a
38:54
Speaker 2: no brainer for him?
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Speaker 4: He was like, this is a really good Hamburger. Wow,
38:58
Speaker 4: this is really great. I mean he was I would
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Speaker 4: say he was a fan.
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Speaker 1: I love it. All right.
39:04
Speaker 2: I want to ask you lastly about big news that happened,
39:07
Speaker 2: and this is much more of a serious topic. Trump
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Speaker 2: team is declaring victory after the Manhattan prosecutors push for
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Speaker 2: a four year freeze on sentencing Donald Trump in his
39:21
Speaker 2: business records case. I've never heard of this before in
39:24
Speaker 2: my life. Maybe this is something that's normal. And Alvin
39:28
Speaker 2: Bragg is upset. He's like, no, no, I still want to
39:30
Speaker 2: go after Donald Trump. You gonna delay it. We'll delay it.
39:33
Speaker 2: But I want him. I still want him. I still
39:35
Speaker 2: believe I'm right. I still want to put him in jail.
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Speaker 3: Well, President Trump has filed emotion to dismiss his criminal conviction,
39:42
Speaker 3: and the Manhattan Prosecutor, instead of agreeing to that, has
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Speaker 3: suggested to the judge, no, no, no, don't dismiss it. Just
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Speaker 3: put it on hold for four years, just freeze it.
39:53
Speaker 3: Don't sentence him, just leave the conviction hanging out there.
39:56
Speaker 3: And I got to say, look, unprecedented doesn't begin to
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Speaker 3: describe it.
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Speaker 4: It is an absolute abuse of power.
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Speaker 3: And look, you had to understand, Alvin Bragg is an
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Speaker 3: elected Democrat in Manhattan. In Manhattan, you've still got an
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Speaker 3: overwhelming majority of Democrats, many of whom hate Donald Trump's guts,
40:16
Speaker 3: and so for Alvin Bragg, even though politically nationally the
40:21
Speaker 3: persecution and lawfare of Donald Trump, I think actually played
40:26
Speaker 3: a significant factor in his winning.
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Speaker 4: And that was the point I made to him on
40:29
Speaker 4: the play, is.
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Speaker 3: That I said, we talked quite a bit about all
40:32
Speaker 3: the cases and everything he's endured, and I said, look, ironically,
40:36
Speaker 3: the more they went after you, the more I think
40:37
Speaker 3: it helped you.
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Speaker 4: And if it had been just one indictment, it might
40:41
Speaker 4: have been more harmful, but.
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Speaker 3: There were so many that it became obvious to anyone
40:46
Speaker 3: that this was just a persecution.
40:48
Speaker 4: This was a political witch hunt.
40:50
Speaker 3: This was a partisan effort to go after someone because
40:54
Speaker 3: they were terrified that what would happen.
40:58
Speaker 4: Is what, in fact did.
40:59
Speaker 3: Happen, that the American people would vote to re elect him,
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Speaker 3: and and and I think, as I said, it ended
41:03
Speaker 3: up boosting him significantly in the polls well. Even though
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Speaker 3: it it I think was harmful to Democrats nationally in Manhattan,
41:15
Speaker 3: I suspect it's quite helpful to Alvin Brad because there
41:17
Speaker 3: are a lot of partisans who hate Trump. And I
41:21
Speaker 3: got to say, I am very hopeful, you know that
41:26
Speaker 3: this will be thrown out. The judge, Juan Marchan has demonstrated,
41:31
Speaker 3: I think, a lot of bias he is. He is
41:34
Speaker 3: a partisan Democrat as well. It'll be interesting to see
41:39
Speaker 3: what he does, because I think if he agrees with
41:44
Speaker 3: the prosecutor, if he says, okay, we're going to just
41:47
Speaker 3: put this on ice for four years, I think that
41:50
Speaker 3: will prompt an appeal. It will probably prompt what's called
41:54
Speaker 3: a ridaman damus to an appellate court to order either
41:58
Speaker 3: the case dismissed or to order him to rule. Because
42:02
Speaker 3: what Alvin Bragg wants to do is he wants to
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Speaker 3: run for reelection, saying I prosecuted Donald Trump, I got
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Speaker 3: a conviction of Donald Trump, and to use it number.
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Speaker 4: One, for his political advantage.
42:14
Speaker 3: Number two, he wants to avoid a depellate reversal, so
42:16
Speaker 3: he wants four years of the appellate courts not examining
42:21
Speaker 3: the many and the rampant legal errors in his rulings.
42:25
Speaker 3: But number three, he wants to use this to threaten
42:28
Speaker 3: the president to have it hang over. And this guy's
42:31
Speaker 3: enough of a zealoth that. I mean, he's literally talking
42:34
Speaker 3: about okay, four plus years from now, when he's done
42:37
Speaker 3: with being president's eighty two years old. Alvin Bragg wants
42:40
Speaker 3: to put him in jail like it just to be
42:43
Speaker 3: there to threaten the president every day. And by the way,
42:45
Speaker 3: number four, he wants CNN and MSNBC and all of
42:49
Speaker 3: the corporate media to refer to him as a convicted
42:51
Speaker 3: felon over and over and over again. And if the
42:53
Speaker 3: case is thrown out, that becomes a lot more problematic.
42:58
Speaker 3: I do not believe Album and Bragg will succeed in this.
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Speaker 3: Either the trial judge will say, look, this is not tenable,
43:06
Speaker 3: you can't you can't have a jury verdict, and then
43:09
Speaker 3: just free sentencing for four years, or if not, I
43:12
Speaker 3: think we will see an appellate court step in and
43:14
Speaker 3: say that this is inconsistent with New York law and
43:18
Speaker 3: it's inconsistent with the Constitution.
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Speaker 4: I'm very hopeful that's what will happen.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's fair to say one heck of
43:25
Speaker 2: a day, Senator, and a great day for the citizens
43:29
Speaker 2: in Texas, for just everybody down there in Brownsville, and
43:33
Speaker 2: also to hear that things are full speed ahead on
43:35
Speaker 2: the Trump train after this mandate and a big victory.
43:38
Speaker 2: I also just love hearing the Donald Trump's and such
43:40
Speaker 2: good spirits. He's been through hell and back. He's literally
43:43
Speaker 2: been shot in the last six months. And to see
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Speaker 2: him enjoying life the way that you described it with
43:50
Speaker 2: so many heavy things around him, I think that's just
43:53
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