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Dr. Phil One-on-One: Covid Science, Kids & Social Media and What Women Want (Part Two) · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 2: Doc Phil Part two, Nice to have you with us
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Speaker 2: today as well as we're talking about America, American families
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Speaker 2: and everything that's going on this country. Plus we're going
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Speaker 2: to get into a very important issue and that is
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Speaker 2: the issue of COVID and what impact it had on
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Speaker 2: the families in this country.
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Speaker 3: Well, and I've got to say this has been fascinating.
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Speaker 3: We've covered a lot of topics that Verdict typically doesn't
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Speaker 3: get into. We've we've covered being a parent, being a spouse,
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Speaker 3: we've covered the mental health challenges facing our kids, and
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Speaker 3: we've talked about the desperate, neat need for truth. And
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Speaker 3: I will say, if you didn't listen to part one,
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Speaker 3: go back and listen to part one, because you're not
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Speaker 3: gonna want to miss the discussion from doctor Phil unplugged
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Speaker 3: in a way you may you may not have seen
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Speaker 3: him before, but saying things that need to be said
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Speaker 3: and demonstrating an enormous amount of courage.
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm like a bad rash. You can't get rid
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Speaker 4: of me.
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Speaker 2: Work ethic in society today. As parents, you want to
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Speaker 2: raise your kids to love the Lord, you want to
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Speaker 2: raise your kids to have manners. But we're being undermind.
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Speaker 2: Parents are being in her mind with work ethic.
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Speaker 4: We're a double income society, and you have both parents
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Speaker 4: working so much that they're just really burning the candle
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Speaker 4: at both ends, and some of those fundamentals really aren't
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Speaker 4: being focused on. And you say, how do we how
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Speaker 4: do we get the work ethic Sentater and I were
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Speaker 4: talking earlier. You and I are so aligned in focus
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Speaker 4: because I said, meritocracy is so important to me if
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Speaker 4: we lose that, and you know right now, we've got
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Speaker 4: a government that wants to give everything to everybody for free,
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Speaker 4: and we're teaching people that you don't have to work
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Speaker 4: hard for what you want, and the statistics are staggering.
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Speaker 4: If people spend month after month after month not full
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Speaker 4: time working, they're off work, like during the pandemic, the
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Speaker 4: chance of them coming back. Everybody thought when the pandemic
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Speaker 4: was over, it was going to look like that scene
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Speaker 4: in the movie Grease at the end of the school
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Speaker 4: year where those doors flung open and it was a
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Speaker 4: carnival and everybody comes running out. And it wasn't that
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Speaker 4: way at all. People were intimidated. Things they used to
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Speaker 4: take for granted were now intimidating. And when you don't
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Speaker 4: hold people to a standard, then I've spent a lot
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Speaker 4: of time in rehab. And I'm not talking about drug rehab.
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Speaker 4: I'm talking about rehabilitating people with brain injuries and spinal
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Speaker 4: cord injuries. And if it takes someone that has had
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Speaker 4: that kind of injury and they need to turn the
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Speaker 4: light on and it takes them three minutes to get
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Speaker 4: over there to do it, or you could walk over
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Speaker 4: and do it for them, you need to require them
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Speaker 4: to do one hundred percent of what they're able to
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Speaker 4: do or they'll never get to the next level. And
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Speaker 4: so you ask me, how do we get them to
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Speaker 4: do that by requiring them to do everything they can
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Speaker 4: do every chance we get to do it. And right now,
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Speaker 4: almost a third of fifth and eighth graders can't read
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Speaker 4: at the most fundamental level. They can't read a sentence,
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Speaker 4: And the question is how did they get into fifth grade?
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Speaker 4: How did they get in the eighth grade? Nineteen percent
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Speaker 4: of high school graduates can't read. They cannot read. How
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Speaker 4: do you graduate high school if you can't read in
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Speaker 4: the first, second, and third grade. You learned to read
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Speaker 4: from the fourth grade on. You read to learn. So
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Speaker 4: if you don't learn to read in those first three grades,
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Speaker 4: you don't have that tool to learn the rest of
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Speaker 4: your life. And if teachers are going to pass them
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Speaker 4: either way, then you're just setting them up to fail.
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Speaker 5: It's utterly destructive. You know.
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Speaker 3: One of the things you mentioned in that answer is
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Speaker 3: you talked about coming out of COVID, and I'd be
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Speaker 3: interested in your judgment on what was the damage that
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Speaker 3: was done from a mental health perspective from the shutdowns
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Speaker 3: we had across the country, and what was the damage
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Speaker 3: in particular to kids from tens of millions of kids
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Speaker 3: across this country, their schools shut down for a year
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Speaker 3: or more.
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Speaker 5: And what what do you see as the consequences of.
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Speaker 4: Those policies When they shut down this country in the
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Speaker 4: schools at the beginning of COVID and said this is
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Speaker 4: going to be for a couple of weeks, I said,
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Speaker 4: I get it. When it turned into a month or
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Speaker 4: two months, I went public and said, what you're doing
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Speaker 4: is going to create more damage and more loss of
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Speaker 4: life than the virus itself.
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Speaker 2: So you saw it before a lot of people did well.
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Speaker 4: I actually said it and got called a complete idiot.
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Speaker 5: I've never had that happen to me neither.
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Speaker 4: I got called a complete I got attacked from every
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Speaker 4: possible way you can. And I said, I stand by
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Speaker 4: what I say, and I said it. I think I've
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Speaker 4: got fifteen clips of different times that I said shutting
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Speaker 4: this country down and taking our kids out of school
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Speaker 4: for a prolonged period of time, and the epidemiological pediatricians
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Speaker 4: estimate that it will cost somewhere around fifteen million years
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Speaker 4: of life lost for these kids. And they figure that
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Speaker 4: because you got roughly fifty million kids in public school
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Speaker 4: plus the private schools, and because of what they lost,
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Speaker 4: they will never close that gap, and with lesser educational achievement,
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Speaker 4: they will get lesser jobs, lesser jobs or usually higher
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Speaker 4: risk jobs because they're blue collar and they're working with
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Speaker 4: machinery and construction and things where they get injured. They
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Speaker 4: have poor health covery, which means they get slower diagnosis
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Speaker 4: and lesser care, and so it obtains with years of
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Speaker 4: life shaved off the end of their lives. And what
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Speaker 4: gets me is they did this. The same agencies that
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Speaker 4: advocated for this are the same agencies that had the
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Speaker 4: records that said, we have the highest levels of anxiety, depression,
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Speaker 4: and loneliness among our children than we've had since records
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Speaker 4: were being kept. So let's shut down the schools which
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Speaker 4: we know are essential to their development. It's like throwing
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Speaker 4: gas on a fire. And that doesn't even take into
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Speaker 4: account that mandated reporters are in these schools who report
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Speaker 4: child abuse and molestation, and referrals to the Department of
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Speaker 4: Child and Family Services dropped in some areas fifty to
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Speaker 4: sixty percent. And trust me, abuse molestation did not drop
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Speaker 4: fifty to sixty percent. We simply rendered those children alone
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Speaker 4: with their abusers for two years without eyes on them
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Speaker 4: to report it. To people that could help them. We
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Speaker 4: simply abandoned them to their abusers. And so many of
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Speaker 4: these children relied on those schools for at least one,
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Speaker 4: if not two, meals per day. We took that away.
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Speaker 4: And some say, well, but they delivered those meals. Some
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Speaker 4: got them delivered, some didn't. So we created a huge
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Speaker 4: educational gap. We abandoned the abused and molested children to
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Speaker 4: their abusers and molesters. And nobody has done anything to
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Speaker 4: close the gap utterly other than that, no problem, you know.
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Speaker 3: I'll actually say today is an interesting milestone.
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Speaker 5: I tweeted about it earlier. Today.
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Speaker 3: Today is the sixty sixth anniversary of the day that
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Speaker 3: my father came to the United States of America. So
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Speaker 3: sixty six years ago in nineteen fifty seven, my dad
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Speaker 3: landed in America and he was fleeing Cuba, and he'd
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Speaker 3: been in prison in Cuba. He'd been tortured in Cuba,
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Speaker 3: and he came here with nothing. He came here with
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Speaker 3: one hundred dollars in his underwear, and he washed dishes.
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Speaker 3: He made fifty cents an hour, and America gave him freedom,
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Speaker 3: gave him security, gave him hope, gave him the ability
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Speaker 3: to work and excel and achieve and prosper. And there
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Speaker 3: is no nation in the history of the world like America.
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Speaker 3: And that is I look on too many college campuses.
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Speaker 3: The faculties don't believe it. You and I were talking
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Speaker 3: earlier today about your conversation with college kids who, when
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Speaker 3: it comes to looters in California, say that the looters
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Speaker 3: have a right to take what they want.
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Speaker 4: The shoplifters, I've had them city in my studio audience,
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Speaker 4: say they're taking what's rightfully theirs because they're not being
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Speaker 4: paid a living wage. And look, I get it. But
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Speaker 4: if you're sitting home in a beanbag eating Cheetos while
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Speaker 4: somebody else is working their butt off for fifteen years
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Speaker 4: to get consequential knowledge that people are willing to pay for,
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Speaker 4: you don't get the same outcome. You have to work
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Speaker 4: for what you want. That's what I said. When you
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Speaker 4: choose the behavior, you choose the consequences. And do we
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Speaker 4: need to give everybody better chances and better choices. Yes,
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Speaker 4: we need to work on that, there's no doubt about that.
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Speaker 4: But you cannot tell everybody that they're going to get
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Speaker 4: the same outcome. And we've got college professors that are
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Speaker 4: in there supposedly teaching art that are getting into all
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Speaker 4: of this. And if I had a child in college
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Speaker 4: right now that we're getting taught that, I would be
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Speaker 4: real upset about that, because let me tell you, where
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Speaker 4: are those professors going to be five years later, when
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Speaker 4: that young man is trying to buy braces for his
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Speaker 4: son or daughter and pay the rent. I'll tell you
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Speaker 4: where they're going to be. They're going to be gonzo.
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Speaker 4: You're gonna be able to find them with both hands
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Speaker 4: in a flashlight because they're going to be gone. They're
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Speaker 4: going to be down the road somewhere. And then here's
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Speaker 4: this person that got this college education and wasn't taught
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Speaker 4: to cope with the real world, which is a shark tank.
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Speaker 4: You get out there in the real world where somebody's
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Speaker 4: looking for somebody to produce, and here was somebody taught no,
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Speaker 4: it's the employer's job to get along with them instead
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Speaker 4: of the other way around. We did shows these people
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Speaker 4: that were doing quiet quitting where they just said, well
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Speaker 4: you just do the bare minimum. Well see where that
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Speaker 4: gets you. This is not what we need to be
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Speaker 4: talking about in America right now.
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Speaker 5: How do we change it?
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Speaker 4: We change it by people hearing what's going on, Hearing
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Speaker 4: that these algorithms are programmed to attack our children, hearing
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Speaker 4: what's going on on the college campuses, hearing that kids
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Speaker 4: are getting their feelings hurt and they're medicalizing it. There
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Speaker 4: have been more professors suspended, disciplined, or dismissed in the
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Speaker 4: last twenty or thirty years since the McCarthy era, because
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Speaker 4: now they're saying, no, this injured me. You 't heart
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Speaker 4: my feelings. It injured me. And so now they say, well,
14:48
Speaker 4: we have to react to that, and so they're complaining
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Speaker 4: about it, and professors are getting dismissed because they're asking
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Speaker 4: students to take positions that's not comfortable for them.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: You know, in law school you had to take the defense.
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Speaker 4: Now you plain of both sides. And so they put
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Speaker 4: trigger warnings on everything. Trigger warnings are a myth. They
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Speaker 4: don't trigger warnings create the anxiety they're intended to avoid.
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Speaker 4: The research is clear on that, But yet there are
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Speaker 4: trigger something like sixty seventy percent of the universities use
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Speaker 4: trigger warnings.
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Speaker 3: Look, and in fact, I'd go even further and say
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Speaker 3: the purpose of education is to trigger you. The purpose
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Speaker 3: of education is have you encounter uncomfortable views on comfortable.
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Speaker 5: Positions, challenge your assumptions.
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Speaker 3: For a number of years, I used to teach at
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Speaker 3: University of Texas Law School, and I taught a class
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Speaker 3: as an adjunct professor on Supreme Court litigation.
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Speaker 5: And I would have my students.
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Speaker 3: I would pick seven of the biggest cases before the
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Speaker 3: Supreme Court that term, and they were real cases, and
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Speaker 3: I would have the students the cases and argue the cases,
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Speaker 3: and the students, every student would get to argue two cases,
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Speaker 3: and the remainder of the cases, they would sit as
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Speaker 3: Supreme Court justices and they would ask the questions and
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Speaker 3: we'd do it exactly like the real argument, same time period.
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Speaker 3: And it was a two hour seminar once a week,
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Speaker 3: and so the first hour would be the argument. The
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Speaker 3: second hour, the nine justices would retire to conference and
16:23
Speaker 3: they would discuss the case. And you were required to
16:25
Speaker 3: discuss the case in the persona of your justice. So
16:28
Speaker 3: you might be Clarence Thomas, you might be Ruth Bader Ginsburg,
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Speaker 3: and you were required to discuss the case and decide
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Speaker 3: the case consistent with the jurisprudence of the justice that
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Speaker 3: you'd been assigned, and then each student was required to
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Speaker 3: write an opinion. And I got to tell you, I
16:45
Speaker 3: think some of the best teaching moments is I would
16:49
Speaker 3: assign the cases, and I would assign them randomly. I'd
16:51
Speaker 3: actually just use letters and randomly assign the cases, and
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Speaker 3: I'd signed the sides. And we had a number of
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Speaker 3: students who ended up being assigned positions they hated. I
17:02
Speaker 3: remember one student who did very well in the class
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Speaker 3: was a West Point graduate had been an Army ranger
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Speaker 3: and he was assigned to represent a terrorist at GITMO,
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Speaker 3: challenging his detention. He didn't like that at all, but
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Speaker 3: he did a terrific job. I remember another student, a
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Speaker 3: very liberal woman, was assigned to argue the case of
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Speaker 3: pro life protesters, which was a view she really didn't like.
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Speaker 3: And I thought teaching the class, those were more valuable
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Speaker 3: that if I had switched their positions and let them
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Speaker 3: argue the position they agreed with, they would have learned
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Speaker 3: less from it. And now you have universities that that
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Speaker 3: that seem to be behaving saying our job is to
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Speaker 3: prevent you from encountering anything you disagree with, and surround
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Speaker 3: you only.
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Speaker 5: That triggers you.
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Speaker 2: That triggers you, triggers you, makes you feel uncomfortable.
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Speaker 3: And that their job is to enforce an orthodoxy. You
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Speaker 3: must agree with what we're saying.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, that's why they're booing and not letting speakers
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Speaker 4: that are invited to universities speak. I call it the
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Speaker 4: heckler's veto ye, the heckler's veto does.
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Speaker 5: That's the phrase from court used.
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Speaker 4: And you can't you can't learn if you're just preaching
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Speaker 4: to the choir all the time, Which is why I say,
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Speaker 4: I want both sides to come on and let people
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Speaker 4: here and make up their own mind. And we so
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Speaker 4: you said, what do we do about this? We've got
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Speaker 4: to awaken the masses to say, look, you've got to uh,
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Speaker 4: you've got to speak up about this. You've got to
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Speaker 4: find your voice and talk about this. You know, I
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Speaker 4: said earlier. The reason that these small groups of activists,
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Speaker 4: this tyranny of the fringe, is so efficient, is because
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Speaker 4: they identify an enemy and go after that enemy. And
19:03
Speaker 4: the silent majority doesn't have an enemy like that. They
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Speaker 4: don't have a rally to attend because what they're trying
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Speaker 4: to do is raise their family with love and care
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Speaker 4: and concern and nurture them to get to the next
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Speaker 4: level of life. That's what we're supposed to do as parents,
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Speaker 4: is prepare our children for the next level of life.
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question. You've said it twice,
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Speaker 2: maybe three times a night, the fear you have of
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Speaker 2: these algorithms they're targeting kids. Parents have so much pure
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Speaker 2: pressure now and kids have gotten really good at saying, well,
19:37
Speaker 2: so and so has it. Well they've got a smartphone. Well,
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Speaker 2: they're online. They're on TikTok, they're on Instagram, they're on Twitter,
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Speaker 2: they're on Facebook. What advice do you have to parents
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Speaker 2: about the appropriate age to give them a tool that
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Speaker 2: can also destroy their life, which is a cell phone
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Speaker 2: and allow them on social media.
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Speaker 3: Forty five Yeah, I think it's a great number.
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Speaker 5: My three boys are getting flip phones.
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Speaker 3: Maybe just wait till all their classmates have them. It's
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Speaker 3: easy to say at the ages your kids are, wait
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Speaker 3: till they get in junior high in high school and
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Speaker 3: they're the only kid and they're facing complete ostracization because
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Speaker 3: all of the discussion of their classmates is through these
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Speaker 3: evil black hole devices we put in our kids' hands.
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Speaker 4: Here's the thing. There are arguments on both sides. It's
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Speaker 4: good for the child to have a device where you
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Speaker 4: can reach them at any time, you can track them
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Speaker 4: at any time, you can put all of these parental
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Speaker 4: controls on there. They're so far ahead of us they
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Speaker 4: can laugh at us. They have workarounds, and if you
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Speaker 4: don't give them the devices, they're going to be on
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Speaker 4: their friends' devices. The better thing you.
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Speaker 3: I got to tell you a story. So our daughter
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Speaker 3: got grounded. We took our phone away. She was grounded
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Speaker 3: for a month. It's pretty serious grounding. And we'd taken
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Speaker 3: her phone away. A couple of weeks go by, and
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Speaker 3: then Heidi gets an email from the phone company that's
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Speaker 3: kind of a curious email, and we discovered that before
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Speaker 3: she handed her phone over, she had gone into the
21:16
Speaker 3: phone and taken out the SIM card, of course, and
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Speaker 3: she got a burn heer phone from a friend and
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Speaker 3: put it in the phone. And what was amazing is
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Speaker 3: she said, she said, well, you said you were taking
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Speaker 3: my phone away. You didn't say you were taking my
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Speaker 3: SIM card away. And it was you know, she's got
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Speaker 3: a fabulous mind, and it was a great argument. But
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Speaker 3: you're right, our kids can run circles around us on technology.
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Speaker 4: Yea, I say this. I always tell people that you
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Speaker 4: should talk to your children about things that don't matter.
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Speaker 4: And they said, well, what do you mean by that?
21:50
Speaker 4: And you watch these medical shows on TV? And what's
21:56
Speaker 4: one of the first things I say when you roll
21:57
Speaker 4: somebody into the er? They say, start an IV with
22:01
Speaker 4: ringers lactate. Does anybody ever know what that is?
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Speaker 5: I have no idea what it is.
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Speaker 4: Well, it's water and it's saline. It's an inert substance.
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Speaker 4: And why do they do it. They're getting a vein open,
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Speaker 4: so when they figure out what they do need, the
22:18
Speaker 4: vein is open and all they have to do is
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Speaker 4: plug something into it. That's why I say talk to
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Speaker 4: kids about things that don't matter, because when it comes
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Speaker 4: time to talk about something that does matter, you got
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Speaker 4: that vein open. And if you're talking to them about
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Speaker 4: something that really matters, and it's the first time you've
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Speaker 4: ever tried to have a conversation with them, it's going
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Speaker 4: to feel really awkward. But if you've been talking to
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Speaker 4: them about their video game or shooting baskets with them,
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Speaker 4: about getting a dog, about who they're dating, about this,
22:51
Speaker 4: about that, just about regular things. But there's a dialogue
22:55
Speaker 4: that's going on, and then it comes time where you
22:58
Speaker 4: have to talk to them about something that really matters.
23:01
Speaker 4: It's not like you're on your first date. You know,
23:05
Speaker 4: you've got this dialogue going, and when you roll into
23:08
Speaker 4: something it really matters, it's open, it doesn't feel so awkward.
23:13
Speaker 4: And when you start talking about the internet and the phone.
23:18
Speaker 4: Every time I do a show about these predators or
23:22
Speaker 4: these algorithms and how a significant percentage of young girls
23:29
Speaker 4: get into Instagram or whatever, and so they start getting depressed.
23:34
Speaker 4: I take all of that and send it to my
23:36
Speaker 4: granddaughter and say, you know, read this, let's talk about this,
23:41
Speaker 4: and she becomes aware of it and goes, well, wow,
23:44
Speaker 4: I don't know. And you know, just before we walked
23:47
Speaker 4: in here, I was on the cameras and she's over
23:50
Speaker 4: having a party, a swim party with all the adults there.
23:55
Speaker 4: She's not sitting at home. And that's what's happening right
23:59
Speaker 4: now with young people. They're watching people live their lives
24:04
Speaker 4: instead of living their own lives. And the lives they're
24:07
Speaker 4: watching being lived are fantasies.
24:11
Speaker 5: They're not.
24:13
Speaker 4: It's it's not even the good, it's fictional good. I've
24:17
Speaker 4: had influencers on the show who say they get all
24:20
Speaker 4: dressed up and say, yeah, they're going to this big event,
24:23
Speaker 4: this big party. They're going to the NBA All Star Game,
24:25
Speaker 4: They're going to this, going that, And as soon as
24:28
Speaker 4: they do the shoot, they turn it off, put their
24:31
Speaker 4: sweats on and go sit down and watch TV or
24:34
Speaker 4: sit down watching whatever. They don't. They're not that's not
24:37
Speaker 4: their real lives. And people compare themselves to these fictional
24:41
Speaker 4: lives and they get depressed because they say, I'm a loser.
24:44
Speaker 4: I'm not doing any of that stuff. I'm not going
24:47
Speaker 4: to there. There's a there. This is an amazing thing.
24:52
Speaker 4: I actually had them on. There is a false fuselize
24:57
Speaker 4: to a private jet. It's in La Now, it was
25:01
Speaker 4: in San Francisco. It's just in a room. It's a
25:04
Speaker 4: seat with a window. They rent by fifteen minutes for
25:12
Speaker 4: influencers to come on. They'll come there with like ten
25:15
Speaker 4: changes of clothes, like summer, Christmas, all this stuff. They
25:20
Speaker 4: sit down and do all these photo shoots so they
25:22
Speaker 4: can post them throughout the year. Like they're off to Cabo,
25:26
Speaker 4: you know, they're off to Asping for skiing, They're off
25:28
Speaker 4: to the They don't go anywhere they're going and sitting
25:32
Speaker 4: in a box in a warehouse.
25:33
Speaker 5: And pay them to do it. That's hysterical.
25:35
Speaker 4: They used to do it with a toilet seat that
25:38
Speaker 4: looked like it was a window. Now they actually have
25:41
Speaker 4: one they go sit in. It's just it's just.
25:44
Speaker 5: In a room. Well, you know, capitalism is incredible, Oh
25:47
Speaker 5: isn't it?
25:47
Speaker 4: Though?
25:48
Speaker 3: All right, so let me ask you. You're in Hollywood.
25:51
Speaker 3: Hollywood at least, I think they're nuts.
25:53
Speaker 4: I'm a Texas resident. I know you are, so don't
25:55
Speaker 4: be saying I'm in Hollywood.
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27:44
Speaker 3: Yeah, you are a resident of the great state of Texas.
27:47
Speaker 5: You're in Dallas.
27:49
Speaker 3: We are proud you're a Texan. But how have you
27:52
Speaker 3: not been canceled? I mean, you've dared say things you're
27:56
Speaker 3: not supposed to say, and yet you work in Hollywood
27:59
Speaker 3: and you're still standing. How what has the reaction been
28:04
Speaker 3: to you, what has the pushback been to you?
28:06
Speaker 5: And how have you survived?
28:07
Speaker 4: I think the truth is I've been really consistent in
28:15
Speaker 4: owning the debate. Lane. I give both sides an opportunity
28:21
Speaker 4: to talk about their position and let people make up
28:27
Speaker 4: their own minds. And I've now seen that there's too
28:34
Speaker 4: much traction being gained and somebody needs to stand up
28:40
Speaker 4: and give this a voice. And like I said in
28:42
Speaker 4: the beginning, I'll sit around and say, you know, the media,
28:46
Speaker 4: this the media that, the media, this the media that.
28:49
Speaker 4: And Robin said to me, I guess it's about a
28:53
Speaker 4: year and a half ago. We were sitting in the kitchen.
28:55
Speaker 4: She said, you know you are the media. Well you're
29:01
Speaker 4: bitching about the media. You are the media. Why aren't
29:03
Speaker 4: you doing something about it? And as usual, she was right.
29:12
Speaker 2: Would we ever see and it seems that you're in
29:15
Speaker 2: I say, this is a sincere compliment. The fourth quarter
29:18
Speaker 2: of your career, and it seems that you're now thinking
29:21
Speaker 2: about where we are as a country, your legacy. Would
29:23
Speaker 2: we ever see doctor Phil's name on a ballot? Is
29:25
Speaker 2: that something that you've ever even thought of?
29:29
Speaker 4: No, I'll tell you why. I think I can have
29:36
Speaker 4: more of an impact doing what I'm doing the way
29:41
Speaker 4: I'm doing it now than if I went into politics.
29:47
Speaker 4: First off, I don't think I know enough about it,
29:50
Speaker 4: And I think you got to know where your strengths
29:53
Speaker 4: are and your weaknesses are. I mean Senator Cruz here,
29:58
Speaker 4: constitutional law expert. He's immersed himself in this. I spend
30:05
Speaker 4: twenty years and not be where he was on day one.
30:08
Speaker 4: I get that he is really good at what he does.
30:13
Speaker 4: And I'm in my lane and he's in his lane.
30:17
Speaker 4: I would rather work with him in his lane from
30:21
Speaker 4: my lane than try to get in his lane.
30:23
Speaker 3: So let me ask you a different question. You may
30:26
Speaker 3: remember the movie Mel Gibson was in What Women Want.
30:31
Speaker 3: A very substantial percentage of your viewers are women across
30:35
Speaker 3: America who tune into you and listen and are very
30:37
Speaker 3: interested in what you have to say. So I guess
30:40
Speaker 3: my question would be the title of the movie what
30:42
Speaker 3: a women Want? What resonates and height? He's laughing in
30:47
Speaker 3: the audience. I'm seeking counseling. See, my dear, I'm actually
30:51
Speaker 3: getting advice.
30:54
Speaker 5: The man's really working on you.
30:56
Speaker 4: You're asking me what women does? Somebody write stupid on
30:58
Speaker 4: my forehead? Well, Robin and I just celebrated our forty
31:07
Speaker 4: seventh anniversary last week.
31:09
Speaker 5: Congratulations.
31:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been together fifty years, married forty seven. And
31:16
Speaker 4: I've learned this. When she says what it does not
31:23
Speaker 4: mean she did not hear what I said. It means
31:27
Speaker 4: she's given me a chance to change what I said.
31:33
Speaker 2: If you're taking notes in the audience or listening to
31:35
Speaker 2: this show, this is when you write that down.
31:38
Speaker 4: Yes, that is something to write down. So what I
31:45
Speaker 4: know about what women want? I have a clue. I
31:51
Speaker 4: know this. It is changing. And I did a show
32:00
Speaker 4: with women talking about how their role is changing in
32:05
Speaker 4: this day and time, and they were very outspoken about this.
32:12
Speaker 4: And I think, you know, I think women are people,
32:17
Speaker 4: and I think they want to be hurt. I think
32:20
Speaker 4: they want to be treated with dignity and respect. I
32:24
Speaker 4: think they want to have an opportunity to be acknowledged
32:30
Speaker 4: for the contributions they make and the things that they do,
32:35
Speaker 4: and I think it is changing. But like I said,
32:40
Speaker 4: this country is not perfect and we're making progress, but
32:44
Speaker 4: it needs to change.
32:46
Speaker 3: So let me ask a follow up to that. This podcast,
32:49
Speaker 3: we talk about politics a lot and policy a lot.
32:53
Speaker 3: If you look at politics right now in elections nationally,
32:59
Speaker 3: Republicans are typically winning married men, single men, and married women.
33:08
Speaker 3: But right now in elections, Democrats are winning single women
33:13
Speaker 3: by huge margins.
33:16
Speaker 4: You know, I think the difference, one of the differences
33:19
Speaker 4: I see between the messaging between Democrats and Republicans is
33:24
Speaker 4: I think Democrats do a better job of messaging about
33:31
Speaker 4: the feeling parts of the process than Republicans do.
33:35
Speaker 5: Ye. Unquestionably, I think.
33:37
Speaker 4: Republicans do a real good job about messaging objectives and
33:43
Speaker 4: bottom lines and quantifying those objectives in setting measurable outcomes.
33:54
Speaker 4: And that's really important.
33:56
Speaker 3: And one of the things that's interesting is that get
34:00
Speaker 3: being married is strongly correlated with more conservative voting patterns,
34:05
Speaker 3: and being single is inversely correlated. Now, some of that
34:12
Speaker 3: may just be a factor of age that young people. Historically,
34:17
Speaker 3: Winston Churchill famously said, if you're twenty and not a liberal,
34:21
Speaker 3: you have no heart. And if you're forty and not
34:23
Speaker 3: a conservative, you.
34:24
Speaker 5: Have no brain.
34:26
Speaker 3: That's been true for a long time that young people
34:29
Speaker 3: skew left, and as they get older, they tend to
34:31
Speaker 3: get more conservative.
34:32
Speaker 5: So that's a factor.
34:33
Speaker 3: But do you see something in the divide between single
34:36
Speaker 3: women and married women that would produce a really significant
34:42
Speaker 3: delta in their voting patterns.
34:43
Speaker 4: Well? I do in that. As I've said, I think
34:46
Speaker 4: family in America is under attack, and I think when
34:49
Speaker 4: you become part of a family, your value shift dramatically
34:57
Speaker 4: because now you're responsible for somebody other than yourself. You're
35:03
Speaker 4: responsible for your home. And we've seen marriage on the decline.
35:09
Speaker 4: People are getting married later in life now. Marriage is
35:12
Speaker 4: down now compared to what it was a generation ago.
35:17
Speaker 4: We've seen church membership drop below the fifty percent level
35:21
Speaker 4: for the first time ever. And you know one reason
35:26
Speaker 4: for that is I think we've seen our birth rate
35:29
Speaker 4: drop now to one point six and it takes two
35:33
Speaker 4: point one to sustain this society right now, and it's
35:39
Speaker 4: dropped now to around one point six. And most people
35:43
Speaker 4: when they have a child, they want to go to
35:46
Speaker 4: church and have the child, you know, christened or baptized
35:50
Speaker 4: or whatever. So if you're having fewer marriages and fewer children,
35:53
Speaker 4: then you have fewer families that go to church to
35:57
Speaker 4: start with and begin that tradition. I think that's all
36:01
Speaker 4: tied together.
36:02
Speaker 3: And now do you have any theories on why fewer
36:05
Speaker 3: people are getting married, having fewer children, fewer people are
36:08
Speaker 3: going to church.
36:09
Speaker 4: I do. That's what it's part of this whole theory
36:13
Speaker 4: I have about family being under attack. It's like in
36:16
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, it's like
36:19
Speaker 4: I have this image of huge airplanes flying over the
36:22
Speaker 4: United States and dropping smartphones on everybody. And that's when
36:26
Speaker 4: people started watching people live their lives instead of living
36:31
Speaker 4: their own. They started dating later, they started getting their
36:34
Speaker 4: driver's license. Later, they have fewer friends, they stop socializing.
36:39
Speaker 4: They started social development much later and much less efficiently
36:45
Speaker 4: because they're living virtual lives instead of real lives. So
36:49
Speaker 4: social development was really arrested at that time. And if
36:53
Speaker 4: you if you go back and look at it, you
36:57
Speaker 4: see in eighth nine that begins in to disrupt the
37:02
Speaker 4: social development in America. It's an unintended consequence of carrying
37:08
Speaker 4: a computer with a visual screen in your hand and
37:12
Speaker 4: it's just gone up dramatically, and that's where the social
37:15
Speaker 4: platform started launching, and it took the place of having
37:19
Speaker 4: real friends. You say, oh, I've got you know, I've
37:22
Speaker 4: got three hundred friends. No you don't. You have three
37:26
Speaker 4: hundred followers. You don't know these people. I have these
37:32
Speaker 4: people that come on and say they're engaged. We mean
37:37
Speaker 4: you're engaged. You've never met this person. You've been messaging
37:42
Speaker 4: back and forth for two years to somebody and it
37:46
Speaker 4: turns out to be somebody in a Nigerian workroom. That's
37:51
Speaker 4: you've been sending money for two years. That's not a relationship.
37:54
Speaker 4: But people are confusing followers and clicks for real relationships,
38:04
Speaker 4: and sometimes they fall in love with the fantasy, not
38:08
Speaker 4: even really caring whether it's a real person. On the
38:12
Speaker 4: other end, they fall in love with the fantasy. So
38:16
Speaker 4: I think we've got to really encourage our kids to
38:20
Speaker 4: get off the screens and get out on to the
38:22
Speaker 4: playground and get out into the go to the school dances.
38:28
Speaker 4: You ask these young people today how many friends they have,
38:30
Speaker 4: you would be stunned at how few it is compared
38:34
Speaker 4: to what it was. A generation will go.
38:36
Speaker 2: For everybody that's watching listening to this. You also have
38:39
Speaker 2: a podcast as well, in a book coming out quickly
38:42
Speaker 2: as we wrap up this, tell everybody where all they
38:44
Speaker 2: can find all.
38:45
Speaker 4: This well, thank you for asking, and there are going
38:48
Speaker 4: to be press releases and information coming out on that
38:52
Speaker 4: very soon. And it's not a maybe thing. We're building
38:58
Speaker 4: the broadcast center right now. I'm leaving here now, headed
39:03
Speaker 4: to Texas, and we're designing so many of the things.
39:07
Speaker 4: The news department is built, my studio is under construction
39:11
Speaker 4: right now, and a huge broadcast center, and most of
39:15
Speaker 4: my senior people from Doctor Phild one point zero are
39:22
Speaker 4: packing up the truck and moving out of Beverly, coming
39:26
Speaker 4: to Texas and buying homes in Fort Worth, Keller, Dallas.
39:32
Speaker 4: Argyle all around and tell them I do, and I
39:38
Speaker 4: tell them how great it was and how value, how
39:42
Speaker 4: values were great, but very exciting, and in like I say,
39:47
Speaker 4: in late January, first week of February, we're going to
39:51
Speaker 4: be launching. It's when the book's going to be landing.
39:53
Speaker 4: And I am more excited about this than I was
39:56
Speaker 4: when we launched Doctor Phild to begin with. Very excited,
40:00
Speaker 4: and I hope people listening are saying, you know.
40:04
Speaker 5: Does the network have an am yet.
40:07
Speaker 4: It does, but we haven't released it.
40:08
Speaker 5: Okay.
40:09
Speaker 2: One of the questions from the audience, Doctor Phil was
40:11
Speaker 2: a question of what type of shows, what type of host,
40:14
Speaker 2: what type of roles is it going to be, and
40:15
Speaker 2: how's it going to be different than what you've done before.
40:18
Speaker 4: Well, I think that one of the things that I
40:24
Speaker 4: bring to the process that is unique to my particular
40:32
Speaker 4: brand or approach is that I'm a journalist and a
40:36
Speaker 4: mental health professional at the same time. And what I've
40:40
Speaker 4: always done is talk to real people with real problems
40:45
Speaker 4: and try to come up with real solutions. And I
40:48
Speaker 4: intend to stay with that format in the new show.
40:54
Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is, even though we're
40:57
Speaker 4: going to be talking about different things like social issues,
41:02
Speaker 4: whether it's homelessness, or whether it's the problems we're having
41:07
Speaker 4: with the internet, or it's this issue about the government
41:13
Speaker 4: paying people not to work instead of two work, or
41:15
Speaker 4: whatever the issue might be, I'm going to approach that
41:23
Speaker 4: by telling those stories and dealing with those issues through
41:27
Speaker 4: the eyes of the people that are impacted by them.
41:32
Speaker 4: I think one of the best examples is, you know,
41:35
Speaker 4: we talked about buying these counterfeit pills on the internet,
41:41
Speaker 4: forty percent of which will kill you. Think about that.
41:47
Speaker 4: You've got to really stop to wrap your head around
41:50
Speaker 4: that four out of ten pills you buy, that you
41:55
Speaker 4: can buy whether you're twelve or thirteen or fourteen, four
41:59
Speaker 4: out of ten, ten of those will kill you. This
42:03
Speaker 4: fentanyl is being manufactured in China, sent to the Sinaloa cartel.
42:10
Speaker 4: In Mexico, they raided a pill factory just south of
42:15
Speaker 4: the border near San Diego that was stamping out seventy
42:19
Speaker 4: million pills a month. One lab. Seventy million pills a month.
42:28
Speaker 4: Not all of them are coming here, but a lot
42:30
Speaker 4: of them are coming to America. And when I talk
42:35
Speaker 4: about that, I don't want to have a bunch of
42:37
Speaker 4: talking head experts up there. I had four sets of
42:41
Speaker 4: parents who had non drug addicted children that ordered pills
42:48
Speaker 4: during finals of college to stay awake or to do this,
42:53
Speaker 4: or to do that, and they found them dead the
42:56
Speaker 4: next morning, and credit card receipts where they ordered one pill,
43:01
Speaker 4: yep one pill from a social media platform and we're
43:05
Speaker 4: dead the next morning. And I approach that by telling
43:10
Speaker 4: this story through the eyes of the parents who went
43:13
Speaker 4: up and found their child dead. And that's how we
43:17
Speaker 4: got into that issue, real people, real problems, and we
43:23
Speaker 4: did have the DEA there, we did have representatives there
43:27
Speaker 4: that were involved in every aspect of the story. But
43:32
Speaker 4: still I approached it through the acts of these parents
43:37
Speaker 4: that lost these precious young people. And that's how I
43:41
Speaker 4: intend to continue to do this, to talk about this,
43:44
Speaker 4: not with a bunch of talking head experts like you
43:47
Speaker 4: see on the twenty four hour cable news networks, but
43:50
Speaker 4: instead by dealing with real people that are impacted by
43:55
Speaker 4: these stories.
43:56
Speaker 3: And as you know, the numbers are staggering. Last year,
44:00
Speaker 3: more than one hundred thousand Americans died of drug overdoses.
44:04
Speaker 3: Roughly seventy percent of that is Chinese fentanyl coming across
44:08
Speaker 3: our southern border. That's the highest in the history of
44:11
Speaker 3: our country. To put it in perspective, one hundred thousand
44:15
Speaker 3: people dying is almost double the number of Americans who
44:20
Speaker 3: died in the entire Vietnam War. And that was last year.
44:24
Speaker 3: And even the word overdose is the wrong word because poisoning.
44:28
Speaker 5: It's poisoning.
44:29
Speaker 3: And you know, I've visited with a lot of these
44:32
Speaker 3: parents who've lost their kids, and you're right, it's not
44:36
Speaker 3: a heroin addict on the street. Who's a junkie, it's
44:39
Speaker 3: it's a teenager, it's a college kid who's at a
44:43
Speaker 3: party and someone says, here, try one xanax, try one
44:46
Speaker 3: adderall and they take it, and just one, the wrong
44:51
Speaker 3: one can kill them.
44:53
Speaker 5: You know.
44:53
Speaker 3: I had a DA agent do an illustration that I
44:56
Speaker 3: think is really powerful.
44:57
Speaker 5: He had several of us take.
44:59
Speaker 3: A power A Sweet and Low and he said, tear
45:02
Speaker 3: this open, empty all the Sweet and Low out of
45:04
Speaker 3: the packet.
45:04
Speaker 5: So we all did that.
45:06
Speaker 3: He said, okay, now take your pinky and just stick
45:08
Speaker 3: it in the packet and pull it out. And when
45:10
Speaker 3: you do that, you have a couple of little tiny
45:12
Speaker 3: grains on your fingertip. And he said, that is enough
45:16
Speaker 3: fentanyl to kill you. And I'll tell you I sat
45:19
Speaker 3: down with both our daughters and I gave them packets
45:21
Speaker 3: A Sweet and Low and had them do that. But
45:25
Speaker 3: as a parent, it's terrifying because you hope the message sticks.
45:30
Speaker 3: And the problem is teenagers sometimes do dumb things, and
45:36
Speaker 3: when the dumb things can kill you, that's really terrifying.
45:40
Speaker 4: Yeah. And now there's something called car fentanyl, which is
45:44
Speaker 4: even more powerful than fentanyl, And people say, well, why
45:48
Speaker 4: would a drug dealer want to kill their client, their customers.
45:52
Speaker 4: They don't want to kill them. It's just so addictive
45:56
Speaker 4: that if they'll take it and not die, they just
46:00
Speaker 4: are immediately addicted and they come back. But they're mixing
46:04
Speaker 4: this stuff up in a bathtub with a boatdoor. This
46:09
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