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Veteran Reporter Catherine Herridge Breaks Her Silence before Congress · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you a story, and it's one
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Speaker 1: that is becoming all too normal. You may know the
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Speaker 1: name that I'm about to say. It's a name of
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Speaker 1: a reporter, a reporter who spent many years on Fox
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Speaker 1: and then went to CBS. This reporter, by the name
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Speaker 1: of Catherine Heritage, is a amazing reporter that actually does
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Speaker 1: real journalism.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that she did.
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Speaker 1: At CBS News was she reported often on the corruption
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Speaker 1: of the Biden crime family. All of a sudden, CBS
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Speaker 1: Nude News had some layoffs, and the layoffs happened to
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Speaker 1: hit their best reporter, their DC reporter, their political reporter,
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Speaker 1: their reporter, a true journalist that told you what was
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Speaker 1: happening when it came to corruption. Well after she got
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Speaker 1: quote laid off, because that's how you make it seem
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Speaker 1: like there's nothing faarius going on. She has now testified
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Speaker 1: that CBS News not only locked her out of the building,
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Speaker 1: but CBS News also seized all of her files and
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Speaker 1: said that she was working with sources which they then
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Speaker 1: had control of, who they were to expose government corruption.
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Speaker 1: I want to play for you what she had to say,
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Speaker 1: and again I go back to what I was saying
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Speaker 1: about Catherine a moment ago. Catherine is a journalist. She's
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Speaker 1: a journalist that is not pushing a narrative. She is
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Speaker 1: a journalist that pushes the facts. And she was exposing
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Speaker 1: the truth on the Biden crime family, Hunter Biden, the
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Speaker 1: lies of the Biden crime family, and just how involved
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden was with the family's business corruption. This is
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Speaker 1: the first time that she's been able to speak publicly
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Speaker 1: since she was locked out of the building at CBS News,
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Speaker 1: since all of her files were seized by a at
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Speaker 1: CBS stas. I'm sorry. This is what communists do, right,
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Speaker 1: this is what Marxists do. This is what socialists do.
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Speaker 1: This is what they would do when they're spying on
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Speaker 1: you in other countries like Russia or Venezuela or Cuba.
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Speaker 1: And CBS News did it to their own journalists in
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Speaker 1: the United States of America because apparently she was exposing
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Speaker 1: government corruption on the people that you're not supposed to
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Speaker 1: expose it on, right, Democrats, hard core liberals, and the
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Speaker 1: President of the United States of America. Listen to what
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Speaker 1: she had to say today.
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Speaker 3: As you know, in February, I was held in contempt
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Speaker 3: of court for refusing to disclose my confidential sources on
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Speaker 3: a national security story. I think my current situation can
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Speaker 3: help put the importance of the Press Act into context.
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Speaker 3: One of our children recently asked me if I would
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Speaker 3: go to jail, if we would lose our house, and
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Speaker 3: if we would lose our family savings to protect my
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Speaker 3: reporting sources. I wanted to answer that in this United States,
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Speaker 3: where we say we value democracy and the role of
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Speaker 3: a vibrant and free press, that it was impossible, but
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Speaker 3: I could.
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Speaker 4: Not offer that assurance.
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Speaker 3: The Bipartisan Press Act, which came out of this House Committee,
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Speaker 3: would put an end to the sort of legal jeopardy
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Speaker 3: that I have experienced firsthand in the federal courts, and
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Speaker 3: without the legislation, more journalists will run to the uncertainty
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Speaker 3: of the contempt gauntlet in the future. This legislation will
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Speaker 3: provide protections for every working journalist in the United States
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Speaker 3: now and for the next generation. The legislation provides strong
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Speaker 3: protections at the federal level for reporters and their sources.
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Speaker 3: It would block litigants and federal government from prying into
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Speaker 3: a reporter's files except when there's an imminent threat of violence,
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Speaker 3: including terrorism and in defamation cases. At the state level,
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Speaker 3: similar rules are already in place to protect press freedom.
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Speaker 3: It is my sincere hope that the passage of the
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Speaker 3: Press Act will provide similar protection at the federal level.
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Speaker 3: I hope that I am the last journalist who has
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Speaker 3: to spend two years in the federal courts fighting to
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Speaker 3: protect my confidential sources. My current situation arises from a
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Speaker 3: Privacy Act lawsuit.
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Speaker 4: I am only a witness in the case.
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Speaker 3: It is not common for these cases to reach the
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Speaker 3: stage of holding a reporter in contempt, but when such
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Speaker 3: cases happen, they have profound consequences, impacting every journalist in
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Speaker 3: the United States. Forcing a reporter to disclose confidential sources
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Speaker 3: would have a crippling effect on investigative journalism because without
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Speaker 3: reliable assurances of confidentiality, sources will.
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Speaker 4: Not come forward.
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Speaker 3: The First Amendment provides protections for the press because an
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Speaker 3: informed electorate is at the foundation of our democracy. If
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Speaker 3: con forces are not protected, I fear investigative journalism is dead.
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Speaker 3: Each day I feel the weight of that responsibility. As
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Speaker 3: you know, I was held in contempt of court for
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Speaker 3: upholding the basic journalistic principle of maintaining the pledge of
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Speaker 3: confidentiality to my sources. I have complete respect for the
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Speaker 3: federal court and the judicial process, and I'm not here
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Speaker 3: to litigate the case. It will play out before the
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Speaker 3: appellate court in Washington, d c. But the fact that
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Speaker 3: I have been fighting in the courts for two years
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Speaker 3: and that I am now facing potentially crippling fines of
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Speaker 3: eight hundred dollars a day to protect my reporting sources
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Speaker 3: underscores the vital importance of the Press Act.
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Speaker 1: I want to just pause there, and I want you
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Speaker 1: to think about what this reporter who's now again trying
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Speaker 1: to protect her sources, exposing government corruption, being locked out
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Speaker 1: of her own office by CBS News and having her
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Speaker 1: reporting file sees, and now having the threat of financial
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Speaker 1: ruin at eight hundred dollars a day day, being held
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Speaker 1: in contempt for refusing to give up her sources, which
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Speaker 1: is her right to do in a free press in America.
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Speaker 1: There is something that is happening now. We saw this
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Speaker 1: with an undercover CIA FBI guy a few days ago
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Speaker 1: talking about how, yeah, they find people, they put them
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Speaker 1: on their hit lists, and they basically try to put
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Speaker 1: them into financial ruin. We've seen this in real time
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Speaker 1: against Donald Trump. You look at President Donald Trump, and
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Speaker 1: what did the Democrats say? Okay, we're afraid we can't
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Speaker 1: beat him, so we could bankrupt him. Maybe we can
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Speaker 1: just lock him up and put him in jail. Putting
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Speaker 1: and locking up your political opponents is what Vladimir Putin does.
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Speaker 1: And then, by the way, he'll kill you if that
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Speaker 1: doesn't work. He just did it. He just killed his
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Speaker 1: opposition leader. Dictators and tyrants kill people. They lock people up,
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Speaker 1: They put them in jail to silence them, and then
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Speaker 1: they take their longings from them. Now are We're supposed
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Speaker 1: to be a free country, But based on what we're
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Speaker 1: witnessing right now, we are no longer a free country.
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Speaker 1: We are no longer a country where you have the
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Speaker 1: right to protect your witnesses. And as a as a journalist,
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Speaker 1: by the way, and I'm not let me rephrase that,
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Speaker 1: I'm not a journalist. I'm a I'm a commentator. But
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Speaker 1: I have people that come to me as a whistleblower
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Speaker 1: that I will protect and I shouldn't have to worry
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Speaker 1: that I'm going to go to jail. I shouldn't and
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Speaker 1: they shouldn't have to worry. And I want you to
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Speaker 1: also think about what messages sends two whistleblowers. You look
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Speaker 1: at the irs whistleblowers that came out against the Biden families,
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Speaker 1: and many of them were actually liberal saying what we
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Speaker 1: just witnessed with the Biden family is is total corruption
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Speaker 1: and cover up at the highest levels. Look at the
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Speaker 1: people that came forward and have exposed a sweetheart deal
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Speaker 1: of the Biden crime family which not only was going
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Speaker 1: to let Joe Biden off the hook, but it was
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Speaker 1: going to let Hunter Biden off the hook. And then
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Speaker 1: it was going to give him immunity for any future
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Speaker 1: prosecutions for any crimes that were committed by him in
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Speaker 1: the past. That deal fell apart because it was exposed
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Speaker 1: and there was a judge that was at least honest
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Speaker 1: enough to say, this is insane and no, this is
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Speaker 1: not ideal that I will accept from the federal government.
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Speaker 1: But what we are now witnessing in real time is
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Speaker 1: that if there is someone that they don't like that
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Speaker 1: they want a silence, the government can spy on you.
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Speaker 1: They can set you up or as it was described
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Speaker 1: by that undercovered person the other day, and give you
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Speaker 1: a nudge, right, They can then tie you up in litigation,
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Speaker 1: they can financially bankrupt you. And that's no different than
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Speaker 1: what this reporter, catherin Heritage is testifying. She's saying, I
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Speaker 1: was protecting my confidential sources, and now they're holding me
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Speaker 1: in contempt. And now they're saying because I was exposing
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Speaker 1: and had multiple sources that said they were concerned that
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Speaker 1: by working with me to expose corruption and misconct they
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Speaker 1: would be identified and exposed. They're also sending a message, well, hey,
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Speaker 1: don't take the risk, sources, because eventually we'll get to
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Speaker 1: you too, because we're going to get to the reporter.
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of reporters out there.
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Speaker 1: That would not stand by this hardcore like Catherine has
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Speaker 1: done to protect their witnesses. There's a lot of reporters
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Speaker 1: that wouldn't have the cojones and to stand up to
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Speaker 1: a corrupt government system. But the message now is clear,
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Speaker 1: and why I wanted you to hear what Catherine just
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Speaker 1: had to say is that in America today, the message
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Speaker 1: that's being sent now by federal prosecutors who are holding
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Speaker 1: her in contempt, who are going to be charging her
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Speaker 1: eight hundred dollars a day, is that if you are
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Speaker 1: another reporter out there, you better pay attention, right if
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Speaker 1: you're a conservative out there, so dif what they're doing
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Speaker 1: with Donald Trump, you better pay attention. How many people
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Speaker 1: can can withstand what Donald Trump has gone through? I mean,
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Speaker 1: luckily Donald Trump is a man that has money. Could
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Speaker 1: I withstand what he's gone through financially? No, I would
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Speaker 1: be in ruins a lot faster. And he was almost
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Speaker 1: in financial ruins. And they were trying to do it
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Speaker 1: and they're still trying to do it right. But the
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Speaker 1: message are sending us clear. Okay, maybe Catherine can can
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Speaker 1: stand up to us, but you can't. Little reporter in Washington,
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Speaker 1: d c. Or a little reporter in Paduca, Conduck. You're
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Speaker 1: a little reporter in Memphis, Tennessee, or a little reporter
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Speaker 1: in San Antonio, Texas, or or somewhere on the border
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Speaker 1: that's gonna expose government corruption.
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Speaker 2: At the border. You can't do it. We'll put you
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Speaker 2: in financial ruin.
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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, here is the message to
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Speaker 1: the people that are thinking about coming forward and giving
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Speaker 1: you this information.
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Speaker 2: We're gonna find you too.
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Speaker 1: You're not really going to be silent, You're not really
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Speaker 1: going to be anonymous sources. No, no, No, we're gonna
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Speaker 1: identify you. The government's gonna identify you, and we're gonna
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Speaker 1: come after you. We're gonna expose you. We're gonna make
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Speaker 1: your life hell. So don't come out and be a
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Speaker 1: source about government corruption. Don't expose what you're saying that's
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Speaker 1: being done that is wrong, because if.
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Speaker 2: You do, we will find you.
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Speaker 1: We will come after the person you're telling, and they're
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Speaker 1: gonna roll on you and give us the files that
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Speaker 1: we need. That is what Catherine is saying happen to her,
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Speaker 1: and this is what is happening to other journalists, and
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Speaker 1: they're saying. Basically, journalists I know are saying, I can't
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Speaker 1: get people in the government to talk to me anymore
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Speaker 1: when it comes to government corruption. Now they'll leak to
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Speaker 1: me right things that won't get them in trouble, But
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Speaker 1: outside of that, they're not gonna expose government corruption. The
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Speaker 1: reason why they're not going to do it is because
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Speaker 1: it can put them in financial ruin.
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Speaker 2: And if they do right, if they do.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna know who you are anyway. We're gonna know
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Speaker 1: who you are, and we're gonna come after you no
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Speaker 1: matter what. Listen to this part of what Catherine had
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Speaker 1: to say.
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Speaker 3: When you go through major life events as I have
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Speaker 3: in recent weeks, losing your job, losing your company health insurance,
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Speaker 3: having your reporting files seized by your former employer and
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Speaker 3: being held in contempt.
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Speaker 4: Of court gives you clarity.
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Speaker 3: The First Amendment, the protection of confidential sources, and a
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Speaker 3: free press are my guiding principles.
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Speaker 4: They are my north star.
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Speaker 3: When I was laid off in February, an incident reinforced
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Speaker 3: in my mind the importance.
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Speaker 4: Of protecting confidential sources.
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Speaker 3: CBS News locked me out of the building and seized
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Speaker 3: hundreds of pages of my reporting files, including confidential source information.
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Speaker 2: Seized CBS News.
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Speaker 1: The scumbags at CBS News seized her files, her confidential sources,
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Speaker 1: locked out of the building, and sees hundreds of pages
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Speaker 1: of my reporting files, including confidential source information. All because
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Speaker 1: she was an actual journalist.
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Speaker 2: It's not a hack.
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Speaker 1: All because they wanted to make it clear that you
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Speaker 1: can't really expose the Biden crime family or any other
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Speaker 1: liberals that are corrupt in our government, because if you do,
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Speaker 1: we will fire the reporter and then we will let
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Speaker 1: the Feds know who it was you were talking to.
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Speaker 1: Imagine being one of those confidential sources that is risking
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Speaker 1: it all to expose government corruption. And then you find
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Speaker 1: out the reporter you're talking to has been fired or
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Speaker 1: let go, and all of the documents that she said
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Speaker 1: trust me now are in the hands of that corrupt organization,
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Speaker 1: CBS News, and more than likely are now in the
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Speaker 1: hands of the federal government. Well, there's a clear message now,
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Speaker 1: not only if you're a confidential source and we want
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Speaker 1: to find out who you are, we'll just go after
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Speaker 1: the reporter and force them in a submission. Now she
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Speaker 1: is facing fines of eight hundred dollars a day for
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Speaker 1: contempt of court charges against her for not giving up
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Speaker 1: her sources. But now we found out what happened with
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Speaker 1: CBS News, We now know the meanists broadcasting network. CBS
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Speaker 1: News locked her out of the building, seized all of
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Speaker 1: her files, and said that she was working with sources
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Speaker 1: to expose government corruption. Much of that corruption was the
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Speaker 1: Biden crime family. CBS News' decision to seize my reporting
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Speaker 1: records crossed a red line, she said that she believed
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Speaker 1: should never be crossed by any media organization. But guess
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Speaker 1: what now, if you're a confidential source, are you going
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Speaker 1: to take the risk and listen to the last thing.
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Speaker 2: She says.
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Speaker 3: The litigation and being held in contempt have taken a
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Speaker 3: tool on me and my career.
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Speaker 4: This is not a battle you can fight alone.
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Speaker 3: I am grateful for the support of fellow journalists and
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Speaker 3: multiple First Amendment organizations, including the Reporter's Committee for Press Freedom,
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Speaker 3: the Freedom of the Press Foundation, the Coalition for Women
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Speaker 3: in Journalism, the Night First Amendment Institute, the Society of
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Speaker 3: Professional Journalists, as well as the Columbia Journalism School, of
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Speaker 3: which I am a graduate. I have also been fortunate
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Speaker 3: to have the support from my former employer as I
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Speaker 3: continue to fight this case.
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Speaker 4: Not many journalists could count on a former.
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Speaker 3: Employer, in this case, Fox News, to support a costly
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Speaker 3: and vigorous defense of the First Amendment. That is why
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Speaker 3: the Press Act comes at the right time, when independent
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Speaker 3: journalism and news platforms are expanding opportunities for reporting diverse
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Speaker 3: voices that strengthen our democracy. I know I joined many
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Speaker 3: journalists who are encouraged by the recent comments of the
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Speaker 3: Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, who said he hopes to
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Speaker 3: have the legislation through the Senate and on the President's desk.
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Speaker 4: This year.
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Speaker 3: I deeply appreciate the committee's commitment to this legislation and
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Speaker 3: holding this public hearing.
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Speaker 1: You look at what she's done, and I want to
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Speaker 1: be clear, this woman is amazing. But how many other
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Speaker 1: journalists don't have what she has a former employer and
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Speaker 1: Fox News channel that will stand by you in this
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Speaker 1: case that she's involved in now that could bankrupt her.
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Speaker 1: And how many journalists don't have all those organizations, including
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Speaker 1: journalism schools that will stand behind you because you've been
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Speaker 1: such a rock star reporter for decades. And then what
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Speaker 1: reporter out there now is going to ever trust trust
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Speaker 1: CBS News ever again? I think what we now know
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Speaker 1: and I think it's pretty clear, is it. Catherine Herriage
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Speaker 1: is an individual that was brave enough to do her
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Speaker 1: job the right way. But if you're at CBS News now,
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Speaker 1: are you going to be as brave as her?
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Speaker 5: No?
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Speaker 1: Because CBS News sent a very clear message, we don't
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Speaker 1: do journalism here. We do propaganda here. We are a
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Speaker 1: machine of the state. CBS News is state media who's
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Speaker 1: ever in charge on the left and the government. That's
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Speaker 1: what we report on, That's who we report two. CBS
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Speaker 1: News doesn't do journalism journalism is and I've been saying
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Speaker 1: this for a long time, and people say to me, oh,
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Speaker 1: show me proof that there is bias media, right, that
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Speaker 1: there's a bias media out there, and we want to
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Speaker 1: see the.
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Speaker 2: Proof of that. Show me the proof. Here's the proof, folks.
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Speaker 1: Another example example nine five hundred and fifty three in
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Speaker 1: the last year of bias in the media. This is
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Speaker 1: the bias in the media. This is what happens when
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Speaker 1: it comes to bias in the media. And what CBS
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Speaker 1: News has said is, Hey, we work for the Democratic Party.
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Speaker 1: We are state media of the Biden and if you
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Speaker 1: call us and you tell us that we've got a
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Speaker 1: reporter that we need to get rid of, we'll get
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Speaker 1: rid of them.
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Speaker 2: And if you need their.
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Speaker 1: Files to find out who's leaking and who's talking inside
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Speaker 1: the government, we'll get those for you too. That is
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Speaker 1: CBS News seizing er files. This is something that would
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Speaker 1: have been on a mass.
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Speaker 2: Five years ago.
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Speaker 1: But when Donald Trump broke Washington and when he broke
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Speaker 1: the media in twenty sixteen, these are the repercussions for that. Okay,
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Speaker 1: these are the repercussions for exactly that. This is the
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Speaker 1: fallout of Joe Biden or I should say if Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: excuse me, winning in sixteen, Donald Trump broke the media,
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump broke the deep state, and now they're fighting
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Speaker 1: back like never before. And this is how they're doing it.
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Speaker 1: She had her stuff locked up and they said you're
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Speaker 1: out of here, and she wasn't allowed to take her
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Speaker 1: stuff with her, and then they rummaged through her stuff.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if I do my show in a studio
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Speaker 1: and I have my locker and my stuff's locked up
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Speaker 1: and then they have access to it, doesn't matter. I mean,
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Speaker 1: this goes back to ethics and journalism like CBS News,
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Speaker 1: and what they just did is corruption at the highest level,
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Speaker 1: seizing her files and then and then rummaging through her
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Speaker 1: reporting and finding out who she was talking to, and
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Speaker 1: god knows who else they gave all.
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Speaker 2: That information to. This is not her fault.
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Speaker 1: There's also a lot of information that's on a laptop, right,
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Speaker 1: I mean, are on your computer that is locked. But
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Speaker 1: if they own that computer, they see they can seize
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Speaker 1: that as well. And again this is about intimidation, saying
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Speaker 1: to every journalists out there, hey, don't do a really
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Speaker 1: good job, just do an average job. Don't don't push
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Speaker 1: too many buttons. Okay, just just just push one or
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Speaker 1: two buttons, just kind of tell the stories. And if
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Speaker 1: there's something that's smaller, little, then you can do that, Okay,
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Speaker 1: But but don't really go all in.
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Speaker 2: And whatever you.
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Speaker 1: Do, don't challenge the most powerful areas or leaders in
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Speaker 1: our government if they are Democrats. That is the message
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Speaker 1: that CBS News just sent. And they sent not just
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Speaker 1: that message, but a message to every other journalist. Imagine
20:15
Speaker 1: if you're an independent journalist. Imagine if you're like a
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Speaker 1: small journalist. Imagine if you're an up and coming journalist
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Speaker 1: at an organization. Now, can you imagine how many stories
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Speaker 1: are going to be silenced because of what just happened
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Speaker 1: at CBS News. Because what they're gonna say is if
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Speaker 1: I if I'm risking my livelihood to basically be a whistleblower,
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Speaker 1: or I'm risking my career by helping you expose what
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Speaker 1: I'm witnessing. Okay, and CBS News will do this to
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Speaker 1: their top political reporter. What are the chances tomorrow I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna give this story to someone that's that's a lot smaller,
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Speaker 1: slim to none. Yes, Well, and that was the betfort
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Speaker 1: of us not having computers back then because everything was
21:02
Speaker 1: on paper. Look, I think you can certainly go back
21:06
Speaker 1: to that if that, but I don't think that fixes
21:08
Speaker 1: the problem. And there's also the other thing is right now,
21:13
Speaker 1: how much is the government just flat out spying on
21:16
Speaker 1: people when they want to know what they're doing. There
21:17
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be any repercussions for spying. Are listening
21:21
Speaker 1: in or wire tapping or doing anything to any person
21:24
Speaker 1: now that you want to get intel out of the
21:26
Speaker 1: government is no longer of the people for the people,
21:30
Speaker 1: by the people. It is a government that is now
21:32
Speaker 1: taking over. I've said this on the show before and
21:35
Speaker 1: I'll say it again. Listen to me when I tell
21:37
Speaker 1: you this. The Democratic Party is dead. They are no
21:42
Speaker 1: longer a democratic party. They are Marxists, they are socialists,
21:47
Speaker 1: and they are communists, and they are masquer rating Okay,
21:52
Speaker 1: they are masquerating around as Democrats. They are no longer democrats.
21:59
Speaker 1: They are Marxist, they are socialists, they are communists, and
22:05
Speaker 1: they are not here to help you. They are Marxist,
22:09
Speaker 1: they are socialists, they are communists, and they want a
22:12
Speaker 1: government that controls the press the same way it does
22:16
Speaker 1: in Russia or Cuba.
22:18
Speaker 2: Or Venezuela or.
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Speaker 1: China, and they want a KGB force in America, which
22:23
Speaker 1: is what they've created with a deep state that is
22:26
Speaker 1: constantly reminding the public and the workers of the government,
22:31
Speaker 1: you better be quiet and do what we tell you
22:33
Speaker 1: to do, and if you don't, we'll come after you.
22:35
Speaker 1: And hell, we're so powerful now, we'll even lock up
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Speaker 1: a former president of the United States of America and
22:41
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And if you think you can withstand financially
22:45
Speaker 1: what it's going to cost to defend yourself, well, hey,
22:48
Speaker 1: look at Donald Trump. We've almost taken everything from him.
22:52
Speaker 1: That's the message, do you I mean, I'll say one
22:55
Speaker 1: last thing about this, Donald Trump. Do you understand he
22:58
Speaker 1: was hours away from and being in financial ruin because
23:03
Speaker 1: of a corrupt system in New York. He was literally
23:07
Speaker 1: hours away from having his property seized from him in
23:12
Speaker 1: the most incredible display of government corruption that I've seen
23:18
Speaker 1: in my entire lifetime, where they were like, we are
23:22
Speaker 1: just going to take everything from you all because you're
23:25
Speaker 1: running for president and we're afraid we can't beat you
23:28
Speaker 1: on election day, so we're going to destroy your life.
23:35
Speaker 1: We are going to destroy everything that you've done, and
23:41
Speaker 1: we're going to take it all from you. That is
23:44
Speaker 1: what our federal government and that is what our state
23:46
Speaker 1: governments are now saying to anyone that is powerful or
23:49
Speaker 1: strong and standing up for democracy, standing up for freedom
23:53
Speaker 1: of speech, standing up for freedom expression, standing up for
23:55
Speaker 1: First and Second Amendment rights.
23:57
Speaker 2: And if you're a journalist and you get.
23:59
Speaker 1: A phone call and it's from somebody high up in
24:02
Speaker 1: our government that says, I need to tell you about corruption,
24:05
Speaker 1: and I need to know that you're gonna protect me
24:07
Speaker 1: no matter what. The days of Woodward and Bernstein are over.
24:10
Speaker 1: They will seize your files, and the government will come
24:13
Speaker 1: in and they will find out who you are, and
24:15
Speaker 1: then they will come after you and they may even
24:17
Speaker 1: lock you up. And oh, by the way, journalists, we'll
24:21
Speaker 1: cost you eight.
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Speaker 2: Hundred dollars a day in contempt.
24:25
Speaker 1: If you don't give us what we tell you, which
24:26
Speaker 1: is give us your source, and then we'll maybe get
24:29
Speaker 1: you fired or quote laid off. Now I go back
24:34
Speaker 1: to what I said about Donald Trump and what Donald
24:37
Speaker 1: Trump went through and what he's going through. Now, this
24:41
Speaker 1: is a game plan, and it's one of it full
24:43
Speaker 1: blown intimidation.
24:45
Speaker 2: This is what, by the way, they did with a
24:47
Speaker 2: lot of.
24:47
Speaker 1: People that were in and around January the sixth who
24:50
Speaker 1: were not insurrectionists. Okay, there was people I could watch
24:55
Speaker 1: them and see them on video that cross the line.
24:58
Speaker 1: There are people that attack lawn Horsement on January the sixth,
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Speaker 1: and they should be held accountable for what they did.
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Speaker 1: They should be held accountable. But there was a lot
25:09
Speaker 1: of peaceful protesters that were there. And you have the
25:12
Speaker 1: right to protest in a free country. But we're not
25:14
Speaker 1: a free country anymore. And that's also the signal that
25:17
Speaker 1: our deep state and our government is sending to us.
25:19
Speaker 1: If we don't like you, if you get out of line,
25:22
Speaker 1: if you say too much, if you do too much,
25:24
Speaker 1: we are then going to come after you. Let me
25:28
Speaker 1: give you another example of the corruption that I'm talking about.
25:32
Speaker 2: It has nothing to.
25:32
Speaker 1: Do with with with with with Catherine and CBS News
25:36
Speaker 1: or even Donald Trump. But did you see what Vice
25:39
Speaker 1: President Kamala Harris said about the new ATF rule forcing
25:44
Speaker 1: background checks on private gun sales.
25:46
Speaker 2: Did you see this?
25:47
Speaker 1: She's excited because this is another example of the deep state.
25:50
Speaker 1: This is another example of government total control. Listen to
25:52
Speaker 1: what she said at the White House Office.
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Speaker 6: Hey, everybody, so as the head of the White House
25:57
Speaker 6: Office of Gun Violence Prevention. I'm very i to tell
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Speaker 6: you that as of today, we are closing the gun
26:03
Speaker 6: show loophole. Basically, we are requiring that anybody who sells
26:07
Speaker 6: guns as a dealer has to do background checks. And
26:11
Speaker 6: what we know this is going to save lives. So
26:14
Speaker 6: it's an important step forward. We got more to do.
26:16
Speaker 6: We need to pass an assault weapons ban, we need
26:19
Speaker 6: red flag laws and universal background checks.
26:22
Speaker 5: But good news to report today.
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Speaker 2: Take care, good news to report today.
26:27
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm one of those that's warned about
26:29
Speaker 1: the slippery slope, you know, the slippery slope where you
26:32
Speaker 1: give an inch and they'll take a mile. You notice
26:36
Speaker 1: how fast the slippery slope here became reality, Like, hey,
26:39
Speaker 1: we just want to let you know, is the woman
26:41
Speaker 1: who's taking away America's guns. Were getting even better at this,
26:45
Speaker 1: We're getting closer to accomplishing this. We are excited at
26:49
Speaker 1: this new ATIF rule forcing background checks some private gun sales.
26:52
Speaker 1: So I'm very excited to tell you that today we
26:54
Speaker 1: are closing the gun show loophole, as she describes it.
26:57
Speaker 2: And then says, don't worry now, what's next?
26:59
Speaker 1: Right, slippery slope We're gonna go after those assault were rifles.
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Speaker 2: That's what we're gonna do next.
27:06
Speaker 1: Hey, we're so excited to tell you these assault rifles
27:08
Speaker 1: they're coming next, folks were coming for you. I never
27:11
Speaker 1: thought I would see a day in America where I
27:15
Speaker 1: would watch my rights be taken away so quickly. And
27:22
Speaker 1: there's so many people that are just sitting on their
27:26
Speaker 1: aas's doing nothing about it.
27:30
Speaker 2: And the tests for this was COVID.
27:36
Speaker 1: There was a certain point where the lockdowns weren't about
27:39
Speaker 1: not knowing what to do or the fear of the unknown.
27:42
Speaker 1: It was about what can we get away with and
27:44
Speaker 1: how far can we take people's freedoms and rights. It
27:48
Speaker 1: was a test case and what we can get away with?
27:50
Speaker 1: And what they realized was the government realized at all
27:54
Speaker 1: different levels, the government realized and the corrupt people in
28:02
Speaker 1: our government realize there are so many Americans that are
28:06
Speaker 1: just so stupid, that are so obsessed with staring into
28:11
Speaker 1: their cell phones and not paying attention to what's happening
28:16
Speaker 1: around them and not caring that their rights are being.
28:21
Speaker 2: Just absolutely destroyed.
28:24
Speaker 1: There are so many people that are just put their
28:29
Speaker 1: heads in the sand and are incredibly incompetent, that are
28:34
Speaker 1: incredibly stupid, and that don't care that their rights are
28:39
Speaker 1: being taken away from them, that they can get away
28:41
Speaker 1: with doing the things that they're now getting away with.
28:45
Speaker 2: I go back to COVID. I warned you of this.
28:49
Speaker 1: There was a certain moment during COVID and the lockdowns
28:51
Speaker 1: that was not about your safety. It was about will
28:55
Speaker 1: they say no to this? Remember when they told you
28:58
Speaker 1: couldn't go to church, and they were like, oh my gosh, guys.
29:02
Speaker 2: We can. We can control these people with everything. Rememberhen
29:09
Speaker 2: they told you, let's try this.
29:11
Speaker 1: So we're gonna tell people they gotta shut down their
29:12
Speaker 1: businesses and go bankrupt.
29:15
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
29:15
Speaker 1: The people didn't even fight back when we told them
29:17
Speaker 1: that we're gonna shut down their businesses.
29:19
Speaker 2: They're gonna go bankrupt. This is amazing. What else can
29:23
Speaker 2: we get away with?
29:24
Speaker 1: Can we tell them that their kids can't get an education?
29:29
Speaker 2: Guys? We just told people that they could.
29:32
Speaker 1: No longer educate their children in school, and they went
29:36
Speaker 1: along with it.
29:37
Speaker 2: All right.
29:38
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna tell people they got to stand six
29:39
Speaker 1: feet apart from one another. Let's see if that works.
29:41
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, they'll do that too. They'll stand six
29:45
Speaker 1: feet apart. Then we'll tell them they can't eat out
29:48
Speaker 1: at restaurants, and let's see if we.
29:49
Speaker 2: Can get away with that. Oh my gosh, we got
29:51
Speaker 2: away with that too.
29:53
Speaker 1: Then we'll tell people that they can't even sit with
29:55
Speaker 1: their family members, they don't live in the same household
29:57
Speaker 1: while they're out eating at thirty percent an occupancy in
30:01
Speaker 1: a restaurant where they must put their mask on in
30:03
Speaker 1: between SIPs, in between bites, and they'll do that too.
30:09
Speaker 1: What they figured out was that the American people right now,
30:12
Speaker 1: we live in such a in a world where so
30:15
Speaker 1: many people are so selfish that they're willing to just
30:19
Speaker 1: stare at their phone and be hypnotized by technology and
30:24
Speaker 1: just saying Okay, I mean, hey, I've got my phone,
30:27
Speaker 1: I've got I've got Instagram, I've got Facebook, I've got Twitter.
30:30
Speaker 1: I'm on my phone. I'm not talking to people anymore.
30:32
Speaker 1: I'm not having conversations with one another. Oh wait, you're
30:36
Speaker 1: here to raid my house. Okay, Well I've got nothing
30:38
Speaker 1: to hide, so it's so big deal raid my house?
30:40
Speaker 1: Oh you wanna you wanna okay, wait, you want to
30:42
Speaker 1: take my guns away from me? Okay, well that's fine.
30:44
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I okay, do that too. You want
30:47
Speaker 1: to take away my business? Oh okay, you can take
30:49
Speaker 1: away my business. Oh wait, you're trying to lock up
30:51
Speaker 1: the president of the United States in America.
30:53
Speaker 2: I don't care.
30:53
Speaker 1: I'm in my phone. They understand that we live in
30:57
Speaker 1: a society now where we are so stupid, we are
31:00
Speaker 1: so distracted by TikTok in Instagram and x and everything else,
31:06
Speaker 1: that we are so wrapped up in these in the
31:08
Speaker 1: in these meaningless memes of life, that no one is
31:12
Speaker 1: noticing except for a few of us that listen to
31:17
Speaker 1: this show and that actually understand what's happening. That we
31:19
Speaker 1: are giving away, that we're not giving away. They're taking
31:22
Speaker 1: away every one of our basic constitutional rights, and they're
31:25
Speaker 1: doing it right before our very eyes, and no one
31:28
Speaker 1: seems to care. Can you imagine what this country would
31:32
Speaker 1: have done if Woodward and Bernstein would have been let
31:36
Speaker 1: go by the Washington Posts.
31:40
Speaker 2: Can you imagine?
31:42
Speaker 1: Can you imagine if they would have been fired in
31:44
Speaker 1: their files would have been seized, or when the Pentagon
31:46
Speaker 1: papers were going down, if they're if the files would
31:49
Speaker 1: have been seized and the sources would have been exposed
31:55
Speaker 1: can you imagine what would have happened if we had
31:59
Speaker 1: a deep state that have turned I will go back
32:02
Speaker 1: to something else that's interesting that that was mentioned recently,
32:06
Speaker 1: Like there's real evidence and and questions that should be
32:10
Speaker 1: asked about what our government did getting rid of JFK.
32:14
Speaker 1: And and there was like a lot of evidence that
32:15
Speaker 1: came out not that long ago, and no one seemed
32:19
Speaker 1: to care that it seems that the government may have
32:22
Speaker 1: been involved in in his assassination. Like where are the
32:28
Speaker 1: big articles being written on that? Where's the big investigations
32:33
Speaker 1: in that?
32:33
Speaker 2: Like RK.
32:35
Speaker 1: I'll give him credit, like he's brought that up. He's
32:37
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorist guy in general. But when you look
32:39
Speaker 1: at some of those issues, you're like, what, like, are
32:42
Speaker 1: are we just going to sit here with our heads
32:45
Speaker 1: in the sand until we wake up one day and
32:47
Speaker 1: we don't own our houses anymore? There's no such thing
32:52
Speaker 1: as property rights, there's no such thing as constitutional rights.
32:57
Speaker 1: There's no such thing as a second Amendment anymore, there's
32:59
Speaker 1: no such thing as first Amendment anymore. There's no such
33:01
Speaker 1: thing as is journalism anymore? Like, are we gonna wake
33:07
Speaker 1: up one day and witness what will that moment be
33:14
Speaker 1: like where we can lock up anybody for any reason,
33:17
Speaker 1: we can bankrupt them, the government can come in and
33:19
Speaker 1: quote nudge you in a certain direction, and all this happens,
33:24
Speaker 1: and everybody's fine with it because apparently that's now where
33:29
Speaker 1: we are, and it's happening at the highest levels in
33:33
Speaker 1: front of us, and there doesn't seem to be genuine and.
33:37
Speaker 2: Real, authentic outrage.
33:40
Speaker 1: And not only are they doing it, they're doing it
33:42
Speaker 1: with videos at the White House, Kama Harris, you know,
33:45
Speaker 1: celebrating the ATIP rule forcing background checks, right, she says,
33:48
Speaker 1: And I guess what the assault weapons ban is next? Like,
33:51
Speaker 1: we're not done there, there's a slippery slip. We're coming after.
33:54
Speaker 6: Them background checks and what we know this is gonna
33:57
Speaker 6: save lives.
33:58
Speaker 5: So it's an important step forward. We got more to do.
34:01
Speaker 6: We need to pass an assault weapons van, we need
34:03
Speaker 6: red flag laws and universal background checks.
34:06
Speaker 5: But good news to report today. Take care.
34:09
Speaker 2: I love how they say it's gonna save lives.
34:10
Speaker 1: You notice that's their mantra now for anything they want
34:13
Speaker 1: to do to take away your rights. Hey, you gotta
34:15
Speaker 1: stand six f A part. It's gonna save lives. Hey,
34:18
Speaker 1: you gotta get the Jab, it's gonna save lives. Hey,
34:21
Speaker 1: you gotta shut down your business. It's gonna save lives. Hey,
34:24
Speaker 1: you gotta not.
34:24
Speaker 2: Worship God at church.
34:26
Speaker 1: You gotta and and gather where two or more together
34:29
Speaker 1: gonna save lives. Meanwhile, we demand that you give us
34:33
Speaker 1: all your money so it can go to Ukraine and
34:34
Speaker 1: the corruption in Ukraine, because that's the war we're in
34:37
Speaker 1: favor of. Oh, and we got to turn our back
34:39
Speaker 1: on on the Jews in Israel. And and somehow the
34:44
Speaker 1: terrorists who killed all the innocent Jews that were caught
34:47
Speaker 1: on video that was celebrated by the left, we'll defend them.
34:51
Speaker 1: Now we have congresswomen at events where they're chanting death
34:54
Speaker 1: to America.
34:54
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw that.
34:55
Speaker 1: With it was it Rashid to lead this week where
34:58
Speaker 1: they're at our event and they're they're chanting death to America.
35:01
Speaker 1: And she was asked by Today, She's like, oh, this
35:03
Speaker 1: is just corruption at Fox News. I don't answer Fox
35:05
Speaker 1: News's questions when they asked me about me not condemning
35:09
Speaker 1: at my own event people chanting death to America.
35:14
Speaker 2: No, we don't, we don't. We don't talk about that.
35:17
Speaker 1: I don't answer questions of Fox News because no one
35:21
Speaker 1: else in the government seems to be asking that question. No,
35:25
Speaker 1: no one else in the government or I should say,
35:28
Speaker 1: in the media. Let me rephrase that is asking that question.
35:32
Speaker 1: Where where's CBS News walking up to Rashid to leave,
35:34
Speaker 1: going Hey, just gotta I gotta ask you a question.
35:38
Speaker 1: You had people that's supporting you at your event chanting
35:40
Speaker 1: death to America like that, that's something that we might
35:43
Speaker 1: want to talk about. Nah, we don't talk about that.
35:47
Speaker 1: Why would we talk about that?
35:49
Speaker 2: Why?
35:49
Speaker 1: Why on earth would we would we talk about that?
35:53
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