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Rushion interviews the SugaChef, Executive Pastry Chef Padua Player and Attorney Ricky Anderson who represents Hollywood’s Black Excellence · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: today represent people who did not let fear of change
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Speaker 1: stop them from pursuing their dreams. Separately, they are making
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Speaker 1: a difference in the pastry industry and entertainment law profession.
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Speaker 1: Our theme today is that there's no perfect time to
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Speaker 1: start following your dreams. My guests as an executive pastry
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Speaker 1: chef Padoir Player, also known as Sugar Chef. He is
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Speaker 1: the youngest of seven children. He's been featured on wetv's
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Speaker 1: Platinum Weddings. Was a competitor on Food Network Sweet Genius
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Speaker 1: and Holiday Baking Championship. He won the twenty thirteen Capital
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Speaker 1: Food Fights High Stakes Cake Baking, a cake battle in
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Speaker 1: DC hosted by my Man out of Baltimore Duff Goldman.
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Speaker 1: Following that success, he returned in twenty fourteen twenty fifteen.
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Speaker 1: That's the celebrity chef judge. Let me tell you something
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Speaker 1: to be a judge, to go from the contestant to judge.
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Speaker 1: You got skills. Appeared on cooking channels Cake Hunters in
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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. Television called on his sweet coloring theary skills
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Speaker 1: once again as he appeared on Chops Sweets on Food
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Speaker 1: Network in twenty twenty. Chef Player has appeared on many
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Speaker 1: many goal shows and has provided his sweet delicates to
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Speaker 1: countless celebrity clientele. Plus, he has a consulting service allows
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Speaker 1: Sugar Chef to bring a cost effective and fresh perspective
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Speaker 1: to your breeches. Please, welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass, Masterclass,
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Speaker 1: the one and only Sugar Chef. How are you doing,
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Speaker 1: my friend suffer the sign? How are you well? Good? Well?
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Speaker 1: You did you put the word chef in front of me?
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Speaker 1: Of course I did. I'll tell you something. Video of
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Speaker 1: our social media so I know, I know you can
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Speaker 1: throw down in the kits and come on. Okay now,
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Speaker 1: Sugar Chef, Now this is highly respecting you know, like
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Speaker 1: you saw those credits I just read about you. This
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Speaker 1: this is not about me, but I wanna take that
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Speaker 1: compliment because of the fact that you know, I'm just
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Speaker 1: an everyday kind of like guy in the kitchen. I
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Speaker 1: do the bunk cakes I do. I can do all
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Speaker 1: the sweet potato part. I could do those down home
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Speaker 1: southern dishes. But when you go to your website, there
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Speaker 1: is a different converence, different conversations based on what I
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Speaker 1: do and what you accomplish it. I want to talk
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Speaker 1: about that journey to your dreams and where it all started.
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Speaker 1: You your youngest of seven children. Did the baking start
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Speaker 1: at home or was it something developed away from home?
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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny cheffer Shaw, when you gave me
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Speaker 1: the answerduction I was like, who is he talking about?
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Speaker 1: Talking about you? After a while, it turns into work
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Speaker 1: that you're happy, you know, it turns into work that
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Speaker 1: makes you happy. But you know, starting out, you know,
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Speaker 1: being the youngest of seven kids, you know, I was
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Speaker 1: always mom sush chefs in the kitchen, so I was
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Speaker 1: snapping grain being I was helping her to make her
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Speaker 1: dinner rows. She always made Denner rows every holiday season.
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Speaker 1: I was helping her to make her three potato pid
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Speaker 1: suh chefs to of course, I naturally grab it hated
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Speaker 1: to being in the kitchen. You mean the kitchen for
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Speaker 1: both for a lot of black households or households in general.
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Speaker 1: It's like the heart of the home. So I gravitated,
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Speaker 1: you know, towards the kitchen, and that's where I woke
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Speaker 1: up my passion, so to speak. Now, you know you now,
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Speaker 1: like I said, the website is was it? It's sugar
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Speaker 1: chef dot COM's s ug a chef chef dot com.
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Speaker 1: And when you go there, like I said, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm well known for just just my cooking and I
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Speaker 1: cook fast, but you cook with detail. Our students, I
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Speaker 1: apologize baked with detail. And where did that gift come from? Um? Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, I just being the youngest of seven, I
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Speaker 1: always knew that I was creatively driven, right, you know,
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Speaker 1: early on in my career, when I was in high school,
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Speaker 1: I thought for some reason, I know, I was great
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Speaker 1: with my hands. I just didn't know to you know,
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Speaker 1: doing what I thought. At one point, my sister is
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Speaker 1: a doctor, retired doctor and our end so I thought,
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Speaker 1: at one point I'm gonna go back to school and
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Speaker 1: a dermatologist. And then my sisters, like Pod, you know,
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Speaker 1: they have to go to school for many many years,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I don't think that's for me, right,
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Speaker 1: And the one time I thought I was going to
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Speaker 1: be a conferenter, and then once I started doing that,
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Speaker 1: that didn't excite me. Then one time I was in
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Speaker 1: downtown DC with my mother. She was handling some business
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Speaker 1: downtown and I wanted into a restaurant that had like
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Speaker 1: paper on the windows and things like that, and I
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Speaker 1: had to help on it time. And I was always
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Speaker 1: an industrious little kid. I always love to have money
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Speaker 1: in my pocket. So I wanted into the restaurant and
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Speaker 1: it turns out to be one of the best restaurants
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Speaker 1: and DC with a highly expected chef, and got a
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Speaker 1: job washing dishes. And you know when you're not when
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Speaker 1: you're not washing dishes in the restaurant, they have your peeling,
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Speaker 1: slicing and dicing. And then before you know what, I
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Speaker 1: started doing prep work. And then after that, you know,
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Speaker 1: I would always bring in things for the pastry chef
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Speaker 1: to try, Like you know, back then, I couldn't make
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Speaker 1: a discuit to save my life, but I would always
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Speaker 1: bring in, like, you know, banana brand mixes and things
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Speaker 1: like that. And she was like, you know what, time.
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Speaker 1: Why don't you just come in and help me all weekends?
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Speaker 1: And so you know they're that that's when it started professionally.
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Speaker 1: We know it's interesting because I remember my first job.
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Speaker 1: You know I would right right right, so that that
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Speaker 1: those little things right there, like you said you couldn't
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Speaker 1: make a biscuit to save your life back then. Now
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Speaker 1: what in your mind? Because because this is a super
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Speaker 1: compliment to you and anybody I see in competition, because
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Speaker 1: you you you you, you made me feel good because
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Speaker 1: you said chef for Sean Okay, made me feel good.
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Speaker 1: But to go on TV and and to cook spontaneously
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Speaker 1: like that, that's a gift. That's a talent. Why do
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Speaker 1: you ever get unnerved at those requests or those competition shows?
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Speaker 1: What separates you from a person like me? And I
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Speaker 1: say that, and I'm not saying I'm a bad person.
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying you got a special skill. That's a
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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan and that's another guy, you know what I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: so or another ball player? You are special? What what?
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Speaker 1: What's that separating ingredients? It's making you who you are?
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Speaker 1: Sugar shelfs um. I don't know if something any different
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Speaker 1: than you. I just think that sometimes, um, you know,
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Speaker 1: life and our life pixus in different directions. And for me,
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Speaker 1: I've always been passionate about pastry. I've always been passionate
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Speaker 1: about learning more and challenging myself, um, you know, trying
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Speaker 1: to elevate my skills to the next level studying. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm always reading cookbooks, I'm always watching videos, I'm always
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Speaker 1: taking classes to increase my skills. I don't think there's
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Speaker 1: much or difference between me and anyone else. It's just that, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, when you push yourself to go to the
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Speaker 1: next level, and when you just like like you just
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Speaker 1: got to push yourself. I think that's the only difference.
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Speaker 1: You know. Sometimes everyone has their own gift or you know,
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Speaker 1: things that that they're really super talented that or passionate about.
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Speaker 1: Mine just happens to pay you. Some people greater music,
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Speaker 1: but right, you know, mine happens to be but but
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Speaker 1: but a lot of the ways you, Sugar Shelf, when
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Speaker 1: did you realize you like, you know, you're good in
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Speaker 1: the kitchen, you're good in the restaurant. When did you
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Speaker 1: start realizing that? And I just want everybody to hear
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Speaker 1: that that's listening to this show, because there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of people out there who are talented who sometimes like
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Speaker 1: you're very humble in your skill, but you know you're
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Speaker 1: very gifted because guess what, they're not just putting people
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Speaker 1: on shows, and you're not just winning contests because they
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Speaker 1: like you. It's because you're beating competition based on other
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Speaker 1: highly skilled people who want to win and want this
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Speaker 1: honor being named champion. When did you start when you do?
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Speaker 1: When you start noticing people, you were separating yourself from
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Speaker 1: other people who are around you. Um, I think, Um,
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Speaker 1: I think when I not necessarily okay for someone like man,
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Speaker 1: I just think when I get repeated customers, Like I
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Speaker 1: have some clients that, um, you know, I I may
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Speaker 1: do their wedding cake and then next year night doing
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Speaker 1: their first baby's cake, and next day and I'm doing
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Speaker 1: a sex So when people when just like everyday folks,
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Speaker 1: or when people repeatedly call me and I was like,
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Speaker 1: it's like we're best friends because I kind of followed
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Speaker 1: them on their journey. It's like I have some clients that,
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Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I made the wedding cake,
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Speaker 1: and I made the children's first birthday cake and so
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Speaker 1: on and so forth. So when I followed. When I'm
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Speaker 1: certain clients, I followed them throughout their life, I'm just like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I think I'm doing a white I think I'm racing.
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Speaker 1: But also I'll say it's Oprah says an AHA moment
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Speaker 1: for me was many years ago. I was just doing
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Speaker 1: a just doing delivery for a particular client. I mean
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Speaker 1: it was a congress person. And next thing I know,
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Speaker 1: I got a letter in the mail. I'm like, who
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Speaker 1: is this? I thought I was being drafted. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I don't think me a drafted. And then the letter
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Speaker 1: was from back then of the Vice President By, and
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Speaker 1: I was just like, I kind of dropped to my knees.
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Speaker 1: I thanked the Lord and tears came in my eyes
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Speaker 1: because I'm like, and I called my mom's flaming. I'm like, Mom,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I got a letter from Vice President By
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Speaker 1: and thanking me for about the good. And I've had
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Speaker 1: many moments like that that really kind of solidifies them.
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Speaker 1: I'm on the right path in my life that I'm
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Speaker 1: taking this journey, not taking this journey along. I have
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Speaker 1: a lot of people, to think, a lot of people
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Speaker 1: who showed us I'm standing on like people like you
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Speaker 1: who I admire and I respect, and that pushed me
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Speaker 1: to the next level. So I think that when you
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Speaker 1: have moments that you know, just you're following people throughout
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Speaker 1: their life, and let's just say, it may be something
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Speaker 1: that's simple, like you said, a poundcake or bread pudding
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Speaker 1: or cutcakes or whatever. When people take you along in
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Speaker 1: their life, I think that's when that's when I realized that, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm doing the right thing. Well, I get a phone
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Speaker 1: call from someone that i've you know, maybe someone that
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Speaker 1: I've always admired, or you know, sometimes you know, just
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Speaker 1: you're connected with people and someone picks up the phone
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Speaker 1: and say, hey, can you do this for me? So
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Speaker 1: I think that's when you start your phone starts ringing.
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Speaker 1: That's when you're like, that's when I realized that I'm
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Speaker 1: on the way about. You know. It's really interesting then
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Speaker 1: when you're hearing you talking m because as a person
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Speaker 1: who does bake, I do take myself you know, I
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Speaker 1: go out in public and actually, I'll be honest with you,
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Speaker 1: I'm people recognize me more for my baking than anything
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Speaker 1: I've ever done in Hollywood or with Stephen A Spear
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Speaker 1: for Steve Harvey, or Kevin Hard or it doesn't any
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Speaker 1: movie or TV show I've been on or produced, and
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Speaker 1: it's something about baking the smiles we know it can
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Speaker 1: impact a child to an elderly person. When to tell
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Speaker 1: us about that ability to charm people with your with
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Speaker 1: your pastries, Well, personally, I think the most challenging thing
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Speaker 1: is it's actually for me, it's two things. It might
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Speaker 1: be something cultural, like if someone comes from another country
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Speaker 1: and it's like to happen, can you do that? So
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Speaker 1: I research a recipe for whatever it is. Or if
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Speaker 1: it's something that you know, my grandmother used to make,
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Speaker 1: you know, sweepertate a pie, can you make like making
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Speaker 1: like my grandmother? I'm like, no, I can do the
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Speaker 1: best that I can do, but I ain't no way
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Speaker 1: shape or form can make like your grandmother or bake
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Speaker 1: like the people in your country. And the reason why
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Speaker 1: I say this is because, um, you know, sometimes ingredients
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Speaker 1: of different, sometimes the hands are different. But I think
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Speaker 1: baking like someone's mom or grandmother or their loved ones,
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Speaker 1: I think, to me, that's like the ultimate compliment. So
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Speaker 1: if someone says to me, oh my god, you know
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Speaker 1: when I tasted, you're a deserted tasted just like you
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Speaker 1: know my grandmother made it. And to me, that's the
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Speaker 1: that's the highest form a compliment, you know, the highest
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Speaker 1: form of h to me, simply because you know that
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Speaker 1: those hands are blessed. I'll put so much lever to
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Speaker 1: that stuff. So I mean, that's like the highest compliment
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Speaker 1: that I can really receive. You know, I've been there.
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Speaker 1: I've been there sure, and all I can say is
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Speaker 1: thank you because all I've do, all I'm doing is
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Speaker 1: being met and all you're doing is being yourself when
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Speaker 1: you are being able to sit down in that in
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Speaker 1: that kitchen and being able to I would tell things
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Speaker 1: about baking. Baking is is something you can't watch TV.
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Speaker 1: And you better not be playing music because if you
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Speaker 1: make a mistake, you can't fix a cake once you
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Speaker 1: messed it up. You know you can. You can figure
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Speaker 1: the steak. You can fix some soup, put some extra salt,
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Speaker 1: put some food in it. You can fix things you cook.
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Speaker 1: But you make a mistake when you bake. It's done.
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Speaker 1: We'll be right back. We'll talk about this, but I
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Speaker 1: also want to talk about your your consulting service, because
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Speaker 1: getting a second part of this interview, you have your
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Speaker 1: own line of gourmet desserts. You have sweet delicacies that
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Speaker 1: countless celebrity clientele have died on. How can we get
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Speaker 1: to your sugarshoft um. The best way to my website
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Speaker 1: from Sugarshoft fg A c HF, Facebook, sugarshoft Dessert talk
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Speaker 1: Everywhere Cool. So what's the goal here? You know, you're
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Speaker 1: you're out there. You're you first of all. You know
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Speaker 1: when you get that first shot to get be on TV.
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Speaker 1: You know you're always jazz. Like you said when you
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Speaker 1: got the letter from that then Vice President Biden, complimentary
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Speaker 1: on your your your your food, your desserts, your your skills,
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Speaker 1: you know, because all we don't know where people think
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Speaker 1: of The smiles help. The fact that when you put
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Speaker 1: something down it doesn't stay that long. That helps, and
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Speaker 1: the fact that people keep complimenting you on it. When
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Speaker 1: you're uploaded on your social media, you get these likes,
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Speaker 1: so people follow you because of that. But what is
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Speaker 1: the ultimate goal? What the ultimate goal is to fulfill
18:05
Speaker 1: people's life and make it tweeter, one dessert at a time. Right. Essentially,
18:10
Speaker 1: I would love to do more TV, more consulting, more
18:13
Speaker 1: Brandon opportunities. My ultimate goal. I'm just gonna say this
18:17
Speaker 1: from your is to my mouth to guards is, I
18:21
Speaker 1: would love to be the Carla Hall of baking. I
18:23
Speaker 1: mean it sounds kind of cliche, but I just love
18:26
Speaker 1: everything about Carlin. She's always there on the earth. She's grounded,
18:29
Speaker 1: and I love the fact in terms of my eyes
18:32
Speaker 1: and what I see and I met her quite a
18:34
Speaker 1: few times, and what I see on social media is
18:36
Speaker 1: that she cooks, she does TV, she does this, she
18:39
Speaker 1: does that, And I would just love to kind of
18:41
Speaker 1: navigate my career on that path. What Calor Hall. If
18:44
Speaker 1: you watch the Food Network, she is one of my
18:46
Speaker 1: favorite people, by the way, sugar Chef, So you picked
18:48
Speaker 1: a person I consider a winner, just a great interview.
18:52
Speaker 1: I've interviewed her twice on my show Moneyment on my
18:55
Speaker 1: platform Money Making Conversation master Class. She's a farmer model
18:58
Speaker 1: who just has natural skill just like you, and it's
19:01
Speaker 1: turned that natural skill into a money making career based
19:05
Speaker 1: on what she loves. Something you've done, turning your passion
19:09
Speaker 1: into purpose. Talk about that absolutely un turning my passionate purpose.
19:16
Speaker 1: It's like I had to really sit down, sit down
19:19
Speaker 1: and talk to myself and ask myself, you know what
19:21
Speaker 1: am I passionate about? What? You know, what can I
19:24
Speaker 1: do to make money to support myself? Pinpoint what makes
19:27
Speaker 1: me happy? And what am I naturally good at? Right?
19:32
Speaker 1: And everything pointed back to baking. So I'm like, Okay,
19:35
Speaker 1: I really need to do this. And from me being
19:38
Speaker 1: my mom's suchet can me going to com school to
19:41
Speaker 1: me working and griming all these years working twoutely different jobs.
19:45
Speaker 1: That's when I learned what my passion was. I wakened
19:48
Speaker 1: my passion with different challenges on TV. And you know,
19:54
Speaker 1: it's really about focusing, focusing your life and focusing on
19:58
Speaker 1: what you really want to do with and you know,
20:01
Speaker 1: baking with mine. Right. You know, here's an interesting thing
20:05
Speaker 1: in Sugar Shelf. You know when we hear the word
20:07
Speaker 1: passion a lot on this show. Here the Worrid gift
20:10
Speaker 1: a lot on this show, and then we hear that
20:13
Speaker 1: always took people to leave with your gifts because I
20:16
Speaker 1: never talked about money. The name of my show is
20:18
Speaker 1: money Making Conversations. Because when you're talking about being on
20:21
Speaker 1: the we TV's Platinum Wedding, that wasn't about money. When
20:25
Speaker 1: you was competing for you know, twenty thirteen Capital Food Fights,
20:29
Speaker 1: High Stakes Cake Battle, that wasn't about money. It was
20:31
Speaker 1: about opportunity. When you was brought in on the Cooking
20:34
Speaker 1: Channel Cake Counters in twenty eighteen, again that wasn't about money.
20:38
Speaker 1: That was about the opportunity building your brand and so
20:40
Speaker 1: many people I always people always approaching me how much
20:43
Speaker 1: they pay you, how much they pay you. That has
20:45
Speaker 1: never been at the forefront of my conversation. Based on opportunity,
20:52
Speaker 1: I hear, you responded back me. You have a similar
20:54
Speaker 1: tone and a similar approach. Why is it important that
20:57
Speaker 1: people don't leave with the money, believe with the opportunity. Well,
21:03
Speaker 1: I think with hard work, in person hearing, the money
21:07
Speaker 1: will come. You know. I think once people see that
21:10
Speaker 1: you know, you're about your business, and once people see
21:12
Speaker 1: that you're operating on the same level, the money will
21:15
Speaker 1: come because people people will see that, um, you know,
21:20
Speaker 1: people will see that you're you're about your business. People
21:24
Speaker 1: see your passion. People will will pay for your gift,
21:26
Speaker 1: and I think your gifts will support you. People will
21:29
Speaker 1: pay for what you're great at. So Um, you know,
21:35
Speaker 1: it was a natural transition for me because I'm a
21:37
Speaker 1: natural hustle just being a black man coming from BC.
21:41
Speaker 1: We all had their hustle in this growing up in
21:44
Speaker 1: the youngest of seven and being brought up in that
21:46
Speaker 1: single pair of hussehold. My mother always worked, and she
21:49
Speaker 1: was a nurse and she took from nursing to doing
21:53
Speaker 1: this to doing that. She always had a side hustle.
21:55
Speaker 1: So um, you know, you're it's always for me. It's
21:59
Speaker 1: always about opportunities because the more opportunities that I'm blacked
22:02
Speaker 1: with and presented with, I try to take advantage of
22:05
Speaker 1: that and the money will definitely come. It would always follow. Yeah,
22:08
Speaker 1: before I went to break or, I talked about the
22:10
Speaker 1: consulting services that you offer allowed Sugar Chef to bring
22:13
Speaker 1: it cost effective and fresh perspective to your business. I've
22:17
Speaker 1: sat down with people because people always wanted me to
22:19
Speaker 1: mentor them or they want to sit down and consult
22:23
Speaker 1: them and try to you know, because everybody has different talents,
22:26
Speaker 1: so it's always as a massive request you know, can
22:29
Speaker 1: you guide me? Because you know, you can have a singer,
22:31
Speaker 1: you can have somebody dance, somebody who can act, somebody
22:33
Speaker 1: may be just a brilliant motivator. And so it always
22:37
Speaker 1: it consumes a lot of information, a lot of my
22:40
Speaker 1: attention when people ask that, because I know that the
22:43
Speaker 1: grand scheme of things now as a consultant for restaurants,
22:47
Speaker 1: staffs and recipe execution, how does that work? And how
22:50
Speaker 1: does one approach you and how does one getting tight
22:53
Speaker 1: with you about that situation? Well, you can you can
22:57
Speaker 1: contact with me several different ways, the first with sugar
23:00
Speaker 1: chef dot com, suga bagf dot com, and email Podlar
23:06
Speaker 1: at sugar chef dot com. But the reason why I
23:09
Speaker 1: got into it because again it was about a natural
23:11
Speaker 1: transition something that was naturally good at growing up in
23:15
Speaker 1: this business. You're always training your staff, You're always formulating recipes,
23:20
Speaker 1: you're always doing the back end of it. And so
23:23
Speaker 1: it's a natural transition for me for for entrepreneurs that
23:26
Speaker 1: are opening up, Like currently, one of my clients is
23:29
Speaker 1: the top Southern so food placed in the d NBA
23:33
Speaker 1: area and I'm working with them on training that staff.
23:36
Speaker 1: I'm working with them on creating and upgrading their dessert menu,
23:40
Speaker 1: formulating recipes. I have some special events that I'll be
23:44
Speaker 1: working with them on. So um, it's more cost effective
23:47
Speaker 1: for a small business to hide someone like me. They
23:50
Speaker 1: come in, they pay me a fee. I either will
23:53
Speaker 1: train like maybe like I won't say less skilled person,
23:57
Speaker 1: but I will train that staff on hand or that
24:00
Speaker 1: so that they will be making the dessert. We're going
24:02
Speaker 1: to train that staff. I will formulate the dessert menu
24:06
Speaker 1: for them. So it's more cost effective for them to
24:08
Speaker 1: do everything in house versus purchasing. Are you in greeting
24:12
Speaker 1: purchasing products from other vendors? So um, it's always best
24:16
Speaker 1: to hire experts for them to go on up and
24:19
Speaker 1: and make your you know your experience, and this is
24:23
Speaker 1: where do you do? You create a booklet for them
24:28
Speaker 1: to follow, because like we joked around earlier, is that
24:30
Speaker 1: you can't change the game and the rest when you're baking,
24:33
Speaker 1: you know, because it just changes something like if it's
24:36
Speaker 1: supposed to use half and half, it should be half
24:39
Speaker 1: and half. If you're supposed to use you know, this
24:41
Speaker 1: type of milk or this type of sugar or this
24:43
Speaker 1: type of extract, this is what it should be or
24:47
Speaker 1: it doesn't change. What is the number one problem you
24:50
Speaker 1: get or you run into when you're training people based
24:53
Speaker 1: on your recipes that you're presenting. That's all. You have
24:56
Speaker 1: to have a baker standpoint, your favorite person and you're
24:59
Speaker 1: trying to get an to baking. You have to think.
25:01
Speaker 1: You have to change your thoughts bob pattern. You have
25:04
Speaker 1: to think that the baker's mind. You know, you can
25:08
Speaker 1: dedu from a a ridal recipe until you get to
25:10
Speaker 1: know that person or that you get to know that
25:12
Speaker 1: recipe my recipe. Say, for instance, if you're hiring me
25:15
Speaker 1: to do consultant from your restaurant, I want to train
25:18
Speaker 1: your staff, and I want to build your recipe file.
25:23
Speaker 1: Is I'm gonna build your recipe file from scratch. If
25:25
Speaker 1: you want to say you want to shoot the chefs,
25:27
Speaker 1: I want to apple pie. I want to show your
25:29
Speaker 1: staff how to make create a beautiful flaky piecrust, to
25:32
Speaker 1: make the feeling to a similar pie, to bake de pie,
25:34
Speaker 1: what temperature is supposed to beg or you know how
25:37
Speaker 1: to brush your eggwash, show on the sofa, and I
25:39
Speaker 1: want to do everything from beginning to end, and I
25:41
Speaker 1: want to train your staff. But this is the recipe.
25:44
Speaker 1: It is what it is, and you need to follow
25:46
Speaker 1: it to the t. Now they come in and they say, okay,
25:49
Speaker 1: well we didn't have this, where can I use them?
25:50
Speaker 1: Instead of that, I'm want to tell them, Okay, if
25:52
Speaker 1: you substitute a recipe, a substitute the ingredient, you will
25:56
Speaker 1: get different results. So I think the best that you
26:00
Speaker 1: stick with the recipe until you really get to know it,
26:03
Speaker 1: and then if you have to deviate from the original recipe,
26:06
Speaker 1: just realize and also know that you will get different
26:10
Speaker 1: results in the end. So don't change anything until you
26:13
Speaker 1: get that okay from me, or until you really get
26:15
Speaker 1: to know that recipe. It's really important to say that because,
26:18
Speaker 1: like I said, answer because like I said, you know,
26:21
Speaker 1: there are certain things you can change up, you know,
26:23
Speaker 1: but you you really have to stick to the plane.
26:25
Speaker 1: If you stick to it. If you try to den
26:27
Speaker 1: at the plane without understanding what you're making or baking,
26:30
Speaker 1: then gets what you have a walking, talking disaster. It's
26:36
Speaker 1: gonna bring you different different results. It's like anything else.
26:39
Speaker 1: If you're for scientists gives you a formula to follow,
26:42
Speaker 1: you need to follow that formula until you get to
26:44
Speaker 1: know it, until you understand what every little ingredient, what
26:49
Speaker 1: it does to the recipe itself. You have to understand
26:52
Speaker 1: what the ingredients do and if you change it, it's
26:54
Speaker 1: gonna get you different results. As we chuger share. If
26:58
Speaker 1: we close out, there's an interview. One of the questions
27:01
Speaker 1: that you submitted was transitioning your love affair into a
27:05
Speaker 1: money maker? And I wanted you to just talk to
27:07
Speaker 1: my audience about that's what you're doing. That's what you're
27:10
Speaker 1: doing every day, and when you wake up it's like,
27:13
Speaker 1: this is what you love to do, and now you
27:15
Speaker 1: be able to create a way of living off of
27:18
Speaker 1: your love affair. It was not easy to do, but
27:21
Speaker 1: it was how many people kind of like told you
27:24
Speaker 1: it wouldn't happen or felt that this was something that
27:27
Speaker 1: you you know, this is not a career for you.
27:31
Speaker 1: How many naysayers did you have to brush off your shoulder,
27:34
Speaker 1: brush off your back to be where you are today? Well,
27:38
Speaker 1: you know what, I try not to follow on those
27:40
Speaker 1: follow or think about those naysays, because those naysays kind
27:43
Speaker 1: of feel my passion to go harder and to push
27:46
Speaker 1: myself further. The most important thing, I call it shake
27:50
Speaker 1: your money maker and reason why I call it that.
27:53
Speaker 1: It's like I really want you to think about, you know,
27:55
Speaker 1: use what you've got to get what you want. If
27:58
Speaker 1: you're really great at technology, then think about a way
28:02
Speaker 1: that maybe you can build websites. If you're really great
28:04
Speaker 1: at designing, think about how you could transition that into
28:09
Speaker 1: maybe help or someone design that first department, or doing
28:12
Speaker 1: it in a post effective way. Or you take a
28:14
Speaker 1: person's shopping and say, okay, I want to take the
28:16
Speaker 1: fifth thing and we have a one hundred dollar budget.
28:18
Speaker 1: This is what you can do. But I think you
28:20
Speaker 1: can do the same thing with your natural and talent
28:22
Speaker 1: with your moneymaker. Your money maker should be something that
28:26
Speaker 1: you're naturally great at, that you're passionate about that, and
28:29
Speaker 1: most importantly, what comes easy for you, and what comes
28:32
Speaker 1: easy for me of course is baking. So I'm going
28:35
Speaker 1: to do some consulting. I'm want to do some recipe development,
28:37
Speaker 1: I want to do some training, I want to teach classes.
28:40
Speaker 1: So I think whatever your moneymaker is, I think it
28:44
Speaker 1: has a lot of different arms and a lot of
28:46
Speaker 1: different directions that it could blossom into and go onto
28:50
Speaker 1: that will generate money for you and wealth for your family.
28:54
Speaker 1: It's really interesting about your life because you give back
28:57
Speaker 1: a lot of people who would be busy tend to
28:59
Speaker 1: not give physically. They might make donations, or they might
29:02
Speaker 1: do audio or video or promos. But you are trained
29:06
Speaker 1: unemployed adults for cooling their skills, serving healthy school meals
29:10
Speaker 1: while rebuilding urban food system through social enterprise. Why is
29:14
Speaker 1: that important to you? Well, giving back as I always important,
29:18
Speaker 1: as my mother would always as my aunt Hannah said,
29:21
Speaker 1: she said, you never look down on someone if you're
29:23
Speaker 1: not ready to pick them up, you know. And I
29:26
Speaker 1: think that it were so many people that reached out
29:28
Speaker 1: to me. I mean I was a little a little
29:30
Speaker 1: brown kid coming from a housing development in Northeast DC,
29:34
Speaker 1: and I had so many people that didn't look like
29:36
Speaker 1: me to invest in. And it's just when always one
29:41
Speaker 1: of my mantras and one of my purposes in life,
29:44
Speaker 1: it's the poor into other people, impoor in to people
29:46
Speaker 1: who may not have otherwise had the opportunity or have
29:50
Speaker 1: someone to do that for them. So it's always been,
29:54
Speaker 1: you know, one of my purposes. It's important to folks,
29:57
Speaker 1: and I really enjoy it. I mean, it's nothing like
30:00
Speaker 1: training someone to teaching someone how to make their favorite
30:03
Speaker 1: dessert or it's challenging them if they want to go
30:05
Speaker 1: into the corner, so teaching them how to make you know,
30:08
Speaker 1: how to make a dessert, maybe from one of their
30:10
Speaker 1: favorite restaurants, something on the menu. So um, it's it's
30:14
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's just heart woman for me to
30:17
Speaker 1: get back. So that's why I get back. Awesome. I
30:20
Speaker 1: want thank you for coming to sugar Chef. I want
30:21
Speaker 1: to thank you for taking the time and first of all,
30:23
Speaker 1: thank you for calling me a chef. That is I appreciate.
30:29
Speaker 1: I appreciate anytime you want to promote something is coming
30:31
Speaker 1: up on your show, in your career opportunities. Please please
30:36
Speaker 1: don't hesitate to contact me because I am a fan
30:38
Speaker 1: and uh, I really appreciate this interview because you share
30:41
Speaker 1: with us the other side, the other side of the table.
30:44
Speaker 1: It's like the wait chef for soon. I'm looking forward
30:46
Speaker 1: to your next desk because I think he has might effect.
30:49
Speaker 1: I gotta listening back. But don't go nowhere, because that's
30:53
Speaker 1: all right. He's Hollywood. He represents Hollywood's black excellence. I
30:57
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Thank you come back soon. Okay, sugarschef dot com.
31:01
Speaker 1: If you want to see his work if you want
31:03
Speaker 1: to understand why he has allowed himself to take his
31:06
Speaker 1: gifts and turning into a money making the opportunity. We're
31:09
Speaker 1: right back with Attorney Ricky Anderson. He moved from HBCU
31:13
Speaker 1: to another age, Hollywood, and he's winning in both areas.
31:16
Speaker 1: He is a man who develops and works with a
31:18
Speaker 1: lot of the black excellence in Hollywood. Be right back
31:20
Speaker 1: with Attorney Ricky Anderson. You are now tuned into the
31:25
Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald Hi
31:30
Speaker 1: and Roshan McDonald for Money Making Conversation Masterclass with your
31:33
Speaker 1: daily Minute of Inspiration. This week I sat down with
31:35
Speaker 1: counseling psychologists and sports mental health expert doctor T. M. Moselyn.
31:40
Speaker 1: She talks about the importance of changing the conversation around
31:43
Speaker 1: mental health and getting rid of surrounding stigmas. Many of
31:47
Speaker 1: the aspects of mental health have been heavily sigmatized and
31:51
Speaker 1: for us, we want to change the game and change
31:53
Speaker 1: this conversation. We don't get to peak performance if we
31:56
Speaker 1: don't take care of ourselves or if we're going to
31:58
Speaker 1: do things to make sure our body are well. We
32:00
Speaker 1: have to do the same things for our minds. So
32:03
Speaker 1: there's a common misconception that when I say mental health,
32:06
Speaker 1: it's complated with mental illness or mental disorder, and that's
32:10
Speaker 1: not the case. Everybody has mental health, but they have
32:12
Speaker 1: physical health, and we've got to do things to make
32:15
Speaker 1: sure that we check in. If you want to listen
32:17
Speaker 1: to this full interview with doctor TM Moosley, it's available
32:20
Speaker 1: on Moneymaking Conversation dot com. Or want to think the
32:23
Speaker 1: incredible sugar Chef for coming on the show, just just
32:26
Speaker 1: to sharing us his side of the table where he is.
32:30
Speaker 1: First of all, he called me a chef, So I'll
32:32
Speaker 1: never forget that moment being called officially by an executive
32:36
Speaker 1: pastry chef or actual chef. So that's a companient that's
32:39
Speaker 1: going to go along way in my life. But my
32:41
Speaker 1: next calf I had to really really dig deep to
32:43
Speaker 1: get him on the show. It doesn't do many interviews,
32:46
Speaker 1: probably because he's really really business attorney Ricky Anderson. He's
32:49
Speaker 1: a proud graduate of his of HBCU where he started
32:52
Speaker 1: his professional career doing a regular nine to five just
32:55
Speaker 1: like I was doing at IBM. He was in another
32:57
Speaker 1: company that he has shared with us. When this interviews
33:00
Speaker 1: arts because everybody told him he was being successful. Great,
33:04
Speaker 1: keep going down that track, but that was not what
33:07
Speaker 1: he wanted to do a long term. When he left
33:10
Speaker 1: to be successful, he stayed in Houston, Texas. He didn't
33:12
Speaker 1: have to go to Hollywood. He didn't have to go
33:14
Speaker 1: to New York City to be successful. While becoming one
33:16
Speaker 1: of the top entertainment entertainment attorneys in Hollywood large roster declines,
33:21
Speaker 1: including anybody from Steve Harvey, Dicassie Davis, Washington, Monique, Rickie Smiley,
33:26
Speaker 1: and Linda Adams and many many Moore Annie has taken
33:29
Speaker 1: time to become an adjunct professor at the Thirdgood Marshall
33:32
Speaker 1: School of Law since nineteen ninety eight at Texas Southern University.
33:36
Speaker 1: His lecture topics include entertainment law, music industry contracts, and
33:40
Speaker 1: trial preparation. In twenty fourteen, he was inducted into the
33:44
Speaker 1: Black Entertainment and Sports Law Association Entertainment Attorneys Hall of Fame.
33:49
Speaker 1: Please work with the Money Making Conversation Master Class Attorney
33:52
Speaker 1: Ricky Anderson McDonald, how are you pretty good? You know
33:57
Speaker 1: at the very top rick of my show they always
33:59
Speaker 1: put disclaimers. They say, you know, he might represent this
34:02
Speaker 1: person he might have, he might know this person. Let
34:05
Speaker 1: everybody know, I do know Ricky Anderson. We you do.
34:12
Speaker 1: And I say that very proudly because I learned a lot.
34:16
Speaker 1: And the part of this business that's so so successful,
34:20
Speaker 1: being successful is the ups and downs of it. Ricky,
34:23
Speaker 1: and it's important to have that support group. Tell everybody
34:27
Speaker 1: how important that support support group. Support group has enabled
34:30
Speaker 1: you to sustain yourself in this business for so long. No,
34:35
Speaker 1: thank you, Rachan. And that's a good question, and that's
34:37
Speaker 1: a very important element. And it's really success comes with teams.
34:42
Speaker 1: They just it really does. I mean many times you'll
34:45
Speaker 1: kind of, um, you know, I guess polarized one of
34:49
Speaker 1: the parties. And that's what you know, our business model is.
34:52
Speaker 1: You know, you've got the celebrities, you've got the athletes,
34:55
Speaker 1: and they're more polarized than the group that's around them.
34:59
Speaker 1: But when you look at at that long term success,
35:01
Speaker 1: it's because they've got a great team around them, be
35:03
Speaker 1: an agency, be it management, be a friends, and particularly lawyers,
35:08
Speaker 1: because you know, we've got to adopt the eyes across
35:10
Speaker 1: the teams from a legal perspective, and that's really what
35:12
Speaker 1: our industry is based upon. It's an agreement and the
35:15
Speaker 1: best agreement of the written agreement, and so it's very
35:18
Speaker 1: important that you have someone that understands it, knows the
35:21
Speaker 1: importance of it. And many times maybe your audience will think, well,
35:24
Speaker 1: this is in the contract. Well it's just as important
35:27
Speaker 1: what's not in a contract. And we've just always got
35:30
Speaker 1: to be mindful of that. And that's one of the
35:32
Speaker 1: reasons I proudly say I'm a double HBCU grad from
35:36
Speaker 1: Prairie View A and M University and then my law
35:39
Speaker 1: school jurist doctorate I earned at three good Marster School
35:42
Speaker 1: of Law, where I've been lecturing for the last quarter
35:44
Speaker 1: of a century. Now, when you talk about what you've
35:48
Speaker 1: done as a professional, and you talking about what you're
35:51
Speaker 1: doing in academia training people, what brings you the biggest
35:55
Speaker 1: level of happiness? I really I find joy in votes.
36:01
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that you ask, because when I'm doing
36:04
Speaker 1: speaking engagements, and I mean it doesn't matter if I'm
36:07
Speaker 1: speaking to elementary school students that are going to junior
36:10
Speaker 1: high or speaking at a commencement service at an HBCU,
36:14
Speaker 1: I'll always let them know that my life is bifurcated,
36:16
Speaker 1: you know, I'm an entertainment attorney by trade, but I'm
36:19
Speaker 1: an adjunct professor as well, so i have two lives
36:21
Speaker 1: and I'm obligated to vote. And that's one of the
36:24
Speaker 1: reasons why I can say I've been lecturing there for
36:26
Speaker 1: a quarter of a century, so you know, I've got
36:28
Speaker 1: a huge commitment and that space as well. So both
36:32
Speaker 1: are just as important to me because both make me
36:37
Speaker 1: better at my job. Lecturing and getting the energy from
36:40
Speaker 1: those young audience, those students and the auditorium every Monday,
36:43
Speaker 1: keeps me sharp because they challenge me. But our industry
36:46
Speaker 1: is ever changing, Rashaun McDonald, and we've got to be
36:49
Speaker 1: aware of the nuances with this technology and the way
36:52
Speaker 1: the content is deliberate and protecting rights that's really out
36:55
Speaker 1: in the social media space and out in the digital
36:57
Speaker 1: space and streaming and so forth. So that's the up
36:59
Speaker 1: to date, if you will, Ricky, you said the word technology.
37:03
Speaker 1: I received some software from a friend yesterday. It's an
37:06
Speaker 1: AI software that could write scripts, that can write comedy routines.
37:12
Speaker 1: In fact, she uh, she gave me the software how
37:16
Speaker 1: to log in because it's free right now, and so
37:19
Speaker 1: she said, she put my name in there. This Rushan
37:21
Speaker 1: McDonald comedy style, and it wrote a comedy routine for
37:26
Speaker 1: me like I have written it, And guess what I
37:29
Speaker 1: would have done? Every joke that that computer wrote it
37:32
Speaker 1: was just that good. That's the AI. So that people
37:35
Speaker 1: out there, they won't need writers. They could just go
37:37
Speaker 1: up to a computer and give I want to write
37:39
Speaker 1: a story about uh slashers. I wanted to be a
37:45
Speaker 1: black cast or a diverse cast. I want this type
37:49
Speaker 1: of lead style tone as far as the dialogue, that's that's.
37:54
Speaker 1: What do you say about that type of technology that
37:57
Speaker 1: it's kind of coming in and maybe even becoming a
37:59
Speaker 1: dominant force in the writing industry, Well, I think it's
38:04
Speaker 1: really it's that technological savvy is so valuable. As we
38:10
Speaker 1: lean forward in technology and development and everything that we do,
38:15
Speaker 1: Rashan will definitely improve. I mean, you've got automobiles that
38:19
Speaker 1: are you know, driving themselves, that self operated, and it's
38:23
Speaker 1: just so much further ahead than you and I could
38:26
Speaker 1: have ever imagined when we started our careers. But what
38:29
Speaker 1: I do is I talk with my students on Monday
38:31
Speaker 1: evenings about the future and getting them ready for it.
38:34
Speaker 1: Like you said, the artificial intelligence that AI is very
38:36
Speaker 1: important looking at a lot of you know, the nils
38:40
Speaker 1: and these different assets that now trickle down to college
38:43
Speaker 1: students because that's a whole other revenue stream for them
38:46
Speaker 1: as far as taking care of their families and building
38:48
Speaker 1: their you know, their families and their futures quite frankly,
38:51
Speaker 1: and then looking at the technology and the avatars and
38:53
Speaker 1: everything else that happens. From the Hollywood standpoint, it's just
38:57
Speaker 1: significantly powerful, significant powerful, right, And that's why I remember
39:02
Speaker 1: several years ago, I remember where they did a movie
39:05
Speaker 1: with characters who were just they were built. They were
39:09
Speaker 1: built characters, they were animated characters, and the movie went nowhere.
39:13
Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't even get out the box office.
39:16
Speaker 1: It opened as a nickel, as they said, comically. But
39:19
Speaker 1: now because of video games being so lifelike, and then
39:24
Speaker 1: you see a movie like let's say Avatar Avatars, they
39:28
Speaker 1: say upfront, that's a it is as animation, and so
39:32
Speaker 1: we now have a game. Will you represent real actors
39:35
Speaker 1: you're a real act or real writers or stand up
39:38
Speaker 1: comedians and people who sing, and are you preparing them
39:44
Speaker 1: for the next step or that's not your job responsibility. Well,
39:49
Speaker 1: we're negotiating the deals in that space. And I think
39:51
Speaker 1: they're management their agencies probably introducing them to it, because
39:55
Speaker 1: the one thing about esports and gaming, you know, it's
39:57
Speaker 1: probably probably been ten years for since the I want
40:01
Speaker 1: to say, he was a twelve year old or thirteen
40:03
Speaker 1: year old one three and a half million dollars and
40:05
Speaker 1: in esports competition. And you know when we grew up,
40:08
Speaker 1: your parents or certainly behind us, the parents would say, hey,
40:11
Speaker 1: get off of that. You know that game in the
40:13
Speaker 1: video game. And well when you're thirteen and your college
40:16
Speaker 1: is paid for because you won a competition and it
40:19
Speaker 1: was three and a half million dollars, your parents would
40:21
Speaker 1: probably say you need to practice a little bit this evening.
40:23
Speaker 1: So you know, it's real. It's going into the college
40:26
Speaker 1: systems where it's a real sport. And so when you
40:30
Speaker 1: say this technology is really moving us forward, that's exactly
40:33
Speaker 1: where it's going. You know, you've got these celebrities that
40:37
Speaker 1: actually their name, likeness and image as a R and
40:40
Speaker 1: B you know, music artist or a television artist. Well
40:45
Speaker 1: they could actually have an animated image that's just as
40:49
Speaker 1: valuable depending on how it's played in esports or if
40:51
Speaker 1: it's going to be an NFT and you generate revenues
40:54
Speaker 1: that way. So all of this artificial intelligence and this technology,
40:58
Speaker 1: you know, sort of colliding together as a totally different
41:01
Speaker 1: revelue stream. So there are opportunities for a person who's
41:07
Speaker 1: who's an actor and actress or a singer or some
41:11
Speaker 1: person to entertainment can be making money fit with their
41:14
Speaker 1: physical image someplace else. That's exactly right, and that's happening
41:19
Speaker 1: different than when what we used to do for sound.
41:21
Speaker 1: Sorry didn't mean to interrupt you, but it's no different
41:22
Speaker 1: than when you're looking at voiceovers. You know, you may
41:25
Speaker 1: have an animated series or um, you know the voice
41:28
Speaker 1: of you know, an A list celebrity, Well, their voice
41:30
Speaker 1: is just as valuable in that animated series as if
41:33
Speaker 1: they were on television. And so now with that being said,
41:37
Speaker 1: how does the education process keep up with that? And
41:40
Speaker 1: I'm just asking you because I know you. You know
41:42
Speaker 1: it is a deal, Rick, You know, you go to school,
41:45
Speaker 1: you get your law degree, and guess what not a
41:48
Speaker 1: whole world has become you know, social media dropped on you.
41:51
Speaker 1: The Internet dropped on you. Now we have a you
41:54
Speaker 1: know you have crypto and dropped on you. A block
41:56
Speaker 1: chains and dropped on you. NFTs have dropped on you.
42:00
Speaker 1: How do you keep up with that? Ricky? Well, that's
42:04
Speaker 1: the question that I really answered before you ask it
42:07
Speaker 1: when I said, I lecture these students every Monday, and
42:10
Speaker 1: so I've got saddy young energy in the room for
42:12
Speaker 1: three hours every Monday from five d eight at third
42:14
Speaker 1: Good Marcial School of Laws. Wow, this technology at this
42:17
Speaker 1: bridging its gap. I'm not off the grid. I'm there
42:20
Speaker 1: with these young minds that are matriculating every Monday, and
42:23
Speaker 1: they want to challenge men, tell me about what they know.
42:26
Speaker 1: And I've got to read to keep up with it,
42:27
Speaker 1: just to stay relevant in the technology largely, I won't
42:31
Speaker 1: say one hundred percent for the most part, everything you
42:33
Speaker 1: name from the block team technology through the esports, all
42:37
Speaker 1: of those are great assets. And when you look at
42:40
Speaker 1: our youth, you know they're more technologically savvy than probably
42:44
Speaker 1: you know, the generation ahead of us for sure, just
42:47
Speaker 1: on the technology side. But it actually improved reading because
42:51
Speaker 1: they needed to understand how to read from a literacy
42:54
Speaker 1: perspective to play these games, to play the sports. So
42:57
Speaker 1: there were some educational intellectual advances to this technology and
43:01
Speaker 1: the laptops and the tablets, and I don't know that
43:03
Speaker 1: there's many you know, kindergarteners, first grades and second graders
43:06
Speaker 1: that don't have a tablet. Well, you know, it's funny
43:08
Speaker 1: if you know, we were growing up Rick, you know
43:10
Speaker 1: we you know, if we could just put the right
43:12
Speaker 1: record on the player. You know, our parents like, well,
43:16
Speaker 1: baby baby smart, baby smart, and then then it's out here.
43:20
Speaker 1: You know. Uh, if they could pick up the remote
43:22
Speaker 1: turn the TV on correctly, you know, now they got
43:26
Speaker 1: they got they got cell phones, they got iPads. The
43:28
Speaker 1: technology is advancing the relationship between the child and the
43:32
Speaker 1: future so much faster. It's that good or bad? What
43:34
Speaker 1: are your thoughts? Well, I know it's good if you're
43:37
Speaker 1: looking at you know, sort of honing your talents, because
43:42
Speaker 1: you know, everybody's got a skill set. It's good in
43:44
Speaker 1: that regard. But balance is the critical element that's going
43:46
Speaker 1: to be very important for you know, just having that normalcy.
43:50
Speaker 1: You've got to make sure that they're intellectually is stute.
43:52
Speaker 1: I mean, you've just got to make sure it's all
43:54
Speaker 1: intellectually stimulating um to the use, because if not, we'll
43:58
Speaker 1: lose track of what's important. They will lose track of
44:01
Speaker 1: what should be important to them, and we can't allow
44:03
Speaker 1: them to stray from the center of the road. But
44:05
Speaker 1: when you look at some of these recording artists and
44:07
Speaker 1: they're twelve, thirteen, fourteen years old and they're getting twenty
44:10
Speaker 1: thirty million streams download as far as Spotify, it's concerned.
44:14
Speaker 1: That's pretty popular for a kid that maybe in the seventh,
44:17
Speaker 1: eighth or ninth grade, right, but they're reading the music,
44:20
Speaker 1: they're playing the instrument, and then their academia is on
44:23
Speaker 1: par because they've been glued to a screen, and the
44:26
Speaker 1: question really become you kind to make sure they've got
44:28
Speaker 1: that social balance as well, and very important. I'm talking
44:31
Speaker 1: to attorney Ricky Anderson. He is the author of the
44:33
Speaker 1: following nun fiction entertainment law books containing legal information about
44:37
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry. One Entertainment Law Cases, Documents and Material.
44:42
Speaker 1: The other book is called Music Industry Contracts, Cases and Forms.
44:46
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Attorney Ricky Anderson. Is amazing looking at it.
44:50
Speaker 1: The roster of people who is represented is only a
44:52
Speaker 1: small from Steve Harvey, Cassie Davis, Isaiah Washington, Monique, comedian,
44:57
Speaker 1: Ricky Smile, Incredible Gospel Grade, get a line of atoms.
45:01
Speaker 1: He's just a few names on this roster. But in
45:03
Speaker 1: the end, Ricky, when you look at what you're doing
45:07
Speaker 1: with your career, it's really not about who you represent
45:10
Speaker 1: as to how you represent them. Correct, That is correct.
45:13
Speaker 1: You know. The one thing that I've always looked at
45:15
Speaker 1: very sean was building success and UM. And that's the
45:18
Speaker 1: thing about it, and success to them at a price
45:20
Speaker 1: and um. And we never looked at it as far
45:23
Speaker 1: as it being money or value and asset that we
45:26
Speaker 1: were trying to um, you know, just just just make
45:29
Speaker 1: money and win in that space. Now, we wanted perfection
45:32
Speaker 1: and that'll give you the success. You know, everyone that
45:35
Speaker 1: I worked with and like you said, the names you
45:36
Speaker 1: give their hard workers, they're very committed to it. And
45:39
Speaker 1: we all know what our obligations are. And that's the
45:42
Speaker 1: thing that I've always looked at it. I've got to
45:43
Speaker 1: look at it with a criticalize some I legal perspectives
45:46
Speaker 1: and make sure that I again that's those highest cross
45:48
Speaker 1: those ts and UM and check it twice and check
45:50
Speaker 1: it three times and make sure we're in a safe environment.
45:53
Speaker 1: Now you now you write two books, you an author,
45:54
Speaker 1: you're officially an author. You know, people like that buying
45:56
Speaker 1: you book these not Selation's book. Now these ain't don't
45:59
Speaker 1: look over there for know, you know Hollywood stories. This
46:01
Speaker 1: is about business, about going into entertainment law. What prompted
46:06
Speaker 1: you to write not only the first book, but the
46:08
Speaker 1: second book, this story, the first book entertainment Law. What's
46:12
Speaker 1: what is the significance of that book? Well, I've been
46:16
Speaker 1: lecturing entertainment law for twenty five years and I used
46:18
Speaker 1: third party you know, literary property that I used others books.
46:22
Speaker 1: And I said, well, look, I'm teaching and I've been researching,
46:25
Speaker 1: and I said, I should, at least from my vantage point,
46:28
Speaker 1: make these books attractive to my students. And I looked
46:32
Speaker 1: solely initially at third Good Marshall School of Law, because
46:34
Speaker 1: I selected the cases that are in those books. You know,
46:37
Speaker 1: it's real litigation from you know, the major record labels,
46:39
Speaker 1: the major television networks, and but there are cases that
46:43
Speaker 1: affect people of color, you know, those that would be
46:46
Speaker 1: enrolled in an HBCU that could appreciate it. So you know,
46:49
Speaker 1: it's a publication. But you'll see stories from you know,
46:52
Speaker 1: the Eisley Brothers or Bell Bib Devo and you know,
46:55
Speaker 1: so I pulled Snoop Dogg. You know, those are the
46:57
Speaker 1: kinds of cases that we would see or Luke Campbell
47:00
Speaker 1: went to the Supreme Court when we're talking about you know,
47:02
Speaker 1: copyright and having the right to use third party properties.
47:05
Speaker 1: So I got the real cases and condenced them into
47:08
Speaker 1: written form, and I actually teach from that book so
47:12
Speaker 1: that you can review cases that look like you. I
47:15
Speaker 1: go historically with some of the non traditional names in
47:17
Speaker 1: the company and getting into copyright and knowing how it
47:21
Speaker 1: came about. You know, when copyright came into the United
47:23
Speaker 1: States of America in seventeen ninety. You know, it's only
47:26
Speaker 1: had a few amendments in eighteen thirty one, nineteen o nine,
47:29
Speaker 1: and nineteen seventy six, being the largest one withheld it
47:31
Speaker 1: incorporated you know, recording materials, meaning tonal records. So it's
47:37
Speaker 1: just knowing that and I need our community to know
47:40
Speaker 1: the value of their copyright, their intellectual property, their trademarks,
47:43
Speaker 1: making sure their brand is protected. And so that really
47:46
Speaker 1: is what prompted me to write the books. First of all,
47:48
Speaker 1: now that's your first book. Now, because you mentioned copyrighting,
47:51
Speaker 1: let's let's talk Let's talk that back a minute. Because
47:54
Speaker 1: you know social media, you can post stuff and then
48:00
Speaker 1: but if you try to put it on your website,
48:01
Speaker 1: or you try to put it on YouTube. YouTube flag
48:04
Speaker 1: you saying as copyright infringement. If you put it on
48:07
Speaker 1: your website, somebody see it, they can sue you. But
48:10
Speaker 1: you can put it on social media. If I'm not mistaken.
48:14
Speaker 1: It's a different set of rules. Is that correct. Well,
48:17
Speaker 1: it's a different set of rules. And I'll say this
48:19
Speaker 1: to some degree because when social media and really the
48:23
Speaker 1: Internet got a highly popular the Constitution afforded us the
48:28
Speaker 1: Digital Millennium Copyright Act, and that provided social media company
48:33
Speaker 1: with what they call a safe harbor, which means if
48:37
Speaker 1: you upload the content, they're not sure if you're authorized
48:41
Speaker 1: to do it or not, but if they're submitted a
48:45
Speaker 1: takedown notice. Let's say someone submits a takedown notice on
48:48
Speaker 1: your behalfs, they will immediately take the content down, you know,
48:53
Speaker 1: because the actual trademark holder or copyright holders don't authorized
48:56
Speaker 1: user of it. So even though it's social media, it
48:59
Speaker 1: doesn't give you a free for all. It's just the
49:02
Speaker 1: content gets there so quick. I was I was talking.
49:05
Speaker 1: I spoke out at the Google Um Silicone Beach at
49:09
Speaker 1: the Google office there as one of their guest speakers,
49:11
Speaker 1: and they were sharing with us that they get six
49:14
Speaker 1: hundred hours of content every hour uploaded. You can't keep
49:19
Speaker 1: up with it, so it may come in quicker, but
49:22
Speaker 1: they'll find a way to weed it out. And as
49:23
Speaker 1: I said, when there's a notice submitted, there's many of
49:26
Speaker 1: us as lawyers were actually, um, you know, officers, agents
49:29
Speaker 1: that are able to get takedowns recognize because they know
49:32
Speaker 1: that's a practice area that we work in. So yeah,
49:35
Speaker 1: for shoon it, it's different. But to some degree, even
49:37
Speaker 1: though it's on social media, you can still have it
49:39
Speaker 1: taken down. That's not a free for all now. Now, Yeah,
49:41
Speaker 1: this what confuses me, rack because you know I put
49:44
Speaker 1: a song up on you know, on YouTube, they copyright infringement,
49:48
Speaker 1: flagging me, flagging me y you know. Then I go
49:51
Speaker 1: to TikTok and look like they just play every popular
49:54
Speaker 1: song on every video and nobody nobody bothered over there.
49:59
Speaker 1: And my miss see something rash that got rules over
50:02
Speaker 1: there too. No, you're not misreading something. Something else happened
50:06
Speaker 1: outside of just the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. You've also
50:09
Speaker 1: got blanket license. Says that some of the social media platforms,
50:13
Speaker 1: for particularly the larger ones, will subscribe to so that
50:16
Speaker 1: they may have a right and I can't speak to them.
50:18
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm giving approaching it very cautiously legally,
50:21
Speaker 1: because if someone owns the song, and this is certainly
50:24
Speaker 1: what I teach, it's their intellectual property. If you copyright it,
50:28
Speaker 1: it's yours. Now will the general public take it and
50:31
Speaker 1: blend it into a song? Yes? Does that give them
50:34
Speaker 1: the right to use it? It does not. And one
50:37
Speaker 1: of my students asked me Rashon. She said, well, Professor Henderson,
50:40
Speaker 1: if you just put that this song belongs to X
50:42
Speaker 1: y Z, I say, that means nothing. They still own it.
50:45
Speaker 1: They have a right to take it down. That does
50:46
Speaker 1: not give you a free for all to kind of
50:48
Speaker 1: take advantage of the music. So the rights holders are
50:50
Speaker 1: the rights holders regardless. But you do have so many
50:56
Speaker 1: you know, social media users that don't take the music
51:00
Speaker 1: and they'll put it in the background of their dance,
51:01
Speaker 1: you know. And as I said, when they're up loading
51:03
Speaker 1: six hundred hours per hours, that's pretty that's pretty robust,
51:06
Speaker 1: and it's pretty great, you know, that's a tough one
51:09
Speaker 1: to grasp and get processed. So doesn't make it right?
51:12
Speaker 1: Do they do it? Absolutely? And can it be taken down.
51:15
Speaker 1: The answers. Absolutely, the rights holders own their intellectual property.
51:19
Speaker 1: It does not mean because you're in social media that
51:21
Speaker 1: you have a right to use it too. It's so
51:24
Speaker 1: many people that are ability mass following on TikTok. You know,
51:29
Speaker 1: I have I think almost sixty thousand followers on TikTok.
51:33
Speaker 1: And then I read, you know where the Attorney General saying, hey,
51:37
Speaker 1: I would advise you to be on TikTok. I read
51:40
Speaker 1: where their various government officers are saying you can't use
51:44
Speaker 1: TikTok on any of the office equipment of office related
51:48
Speaker 1: to mobile units that you're being given. What are we missing?
51:52
Speaker 1: Am I missing something? Well? Because it's a national security concern.
51:57
Speaker 1: And when you've got your personal information that's being utilized
52:02
Speaker 1: in places that you're not even sure of, you know,
52:05
Speaker 1: you're thinking it's only TikTok, but it does not limit
52:08
Speaker 1: who has access to that, depending on who the partners
52:10
Speaker 1: are with that cooperation or any other social media I
52:12
Speaker 1: won't single out TikTok, but your information, as you posted,
52:16
Speaker 1: you know, it becomes public and I mean and once
52:17
Speaker 1: it's in a social media space, it's there forever. And
52:20
Speaker 1: so you just want to be mindful of that. And
52:22
Speaker 1: I think now we're a lot more cautious about national
52:24
Speaker 1: security just because of the state of affairs worldwide. I mean,
52:28
Speaker 1: you know, we're back where we've got resurround everything from
52:30
Speaker 1: wards to you know, spy balloom circulating around the country.
52:34
Speaker 1: So I won't get into the politics of it. That
52:36
Speaker 1: represented you that there is a concern from a national
52:39
Speaker 1: security perspective, because that's vitally vital data is being placed
52:43
Speaker 1: in TikTok and Facebook and Twitter and Instagram and every
52:46
Speaker 1: place else, and that information is crucial. And also you're
52:50
Speaker 1: just not sure who's utilizing that information and for what purposes. Well,
52:54
Speaker 1: you know the thing about it. First of all, thank
52:56
Speaker 1: you for taking me to class today, Attorney in I
53:00
Speaker 1: feel that I've gained some degree of knowledge and growth
53:03
Speaker 1: and this interview here. But the most important thing is
53:06
Speaker 1: that when you're recognized by your peers inducting into the
53:10
Speaker 1: Black Entertainment Sports Law Associate Entertainment Attorney's Hall of Fame,
53:15
Speaker 1: what did that do to you? Richard? It was amazing
53:19
Speaker 1: just to see that your colleagues number one respects your
53:23
Speaker 1: body of work and they know what you do, and
53:26
Speaker 1: you don't work to get any sort of an accolade
53:29
Speaker 1: to work because you want to be good. And that's
53:31
Speaker 1: the one thing I learned early on and coming to
53:34
Speaker 1: Texas and going to an HBCU and wanting to go
53:37
Speaker 1: to an HBCU is and my father always told me,
53:40
Speaker 1: you can work hard, but if you're not good, you're
53:43
Speaker 1: just a hard worker. But if you work hard and
53:45
Speaker 1: you're good, then you can make that good great. And
53:48
Speaker 1: that's what I've always tried to do. And the colleagues
53:52
Speaker 1: in the industry have recognized that I will go that
53:56
Speaker 1: extra mile. I'll get up early, I'll stay late. And
54:00
Speaker 1: I'm also a friendly competitor. You know, I'm here to
54:02
Speaker 1: make sure that we all win and um and it
54:05
Speaker 1: just like I said, in one of those moments where
54:07
Speaker 1: you will say, okay, you know that means so much
54:11
Speaker 1: to you that it becomes priceless. But it lets you
54:14
Speaker 1: know that you're doing it right. And your colleagues recognize that.
54:18
Speaker 1: And when you look at the bees LA Hall of Fame,
54:23
Speaker 1: and for most of the lawyers in this country that
54:27
Speaker 1: practice entertainment law in the Hall of Fame, I'm the
54:30
Speaker 1: only one from Texas. And you opened it up talking
54:33
Speaker 1: about me practicing entertainment law, you know, from the state
54:35
Speaker 1: of Texas. And it's a rarity and um and Rashaun.
54:39
Speaker 1: If you know, when you encounter that challenge, you know
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