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Kirk Franklin - hosts a new podcast, “Good Words with Kirk Franklin”; Sheila Eldridge - Founder of Café Mocha radio; Shelden Williams - Former NBA Player lottery pick; Marquis Lupton & William Way Jr.- Founders of the TCP TV Network on Roku channel · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: His name is Kurt Franklin. He's a six time Grammy
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  Speaker 1: Award winning artist songwriter and his latest album is the
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  Speaker 1: acclaimed Long Live Long Live Love, which is his thirteenth
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  Speaker 1: studio album. He released a new single and video from
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  Speaker 1: the album Strong God this past summer. He's gonna show
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  Speaker 1: to discuss something I'm excited to talking about his new podcast,
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  Speaker 1: Good Words with Kurt Franklin, almost like good News, a
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  Speaker 1: new podcast series that work with people from every cross
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  Speaker 1: section of life and who seek inspiration and empowerment. Blocked
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  Speaker 1: this day in February ninth, That's the date everybody where.
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  Speaker 1: He's in conjunction with Sony Music Entertainment dropping Good Words
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  Speaker 1: with Kurt Franklin on the podcast. Please work with the
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  Speaker 1: money making conversation. He's my good friend. He's been in
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  Speaker 1: my life man since ninety four. I'm from Houston, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: He's up in that Dallas, Dallas area, Texas. Boy. Please
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  Speaker 1: welcome Kurt Franklin. How dork, Kurt, How you're doing man? Well,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to my new studio, Curry. I'm trying to do it, man,
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to step up. Man in my game. Man.
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  Speaker 1: You know, man, you look good, brother, look good. You
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  Speaker 1: got a little flex happened up in that love it,
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  Speaker 1: Thank it. How you been doing? Man? You know we're
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  Speaker 1: coming out of going into one. We're talking about new podcast.
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  Speaker 1: But let's let's step back a little bit and talk
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  Speaker 1: about because it sent me through a lot of changes,
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  Speaker 1: tested my faith, tested my patience, sent me through some
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  Speaker 1: emotional physical change that game weight, loss, weight, and anxiety.
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  Speaker 1: It's about the COVID nineteen. My family and my wife.
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  Speaker 1: She still won't go to in a restaurant, out in public.
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  Speaker 1: She would take to go, but did she suspect of
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  Speaker 1: it coming into the house. So how did it impact
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  Speaker 1: your family and the people who follow you and seek
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  Speaker 1: your guidance. Well, once again, man, so honored to see
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  Speaker 1: you and so proud to see you continue to just
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  Speaker 1: really make impact, especially in our community. Uh, to be
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  Speaker 1: able to give information that that that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: times were systemically hidden from us. It was part of
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  Speaker 1: the plan for us to not always gather the information
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  Speaker 1: or to be able to pass the information, and for
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  Speaker 1: it to be transferable into the boardroom all the way
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  Speaker 1: to the block. And I think that that's something that
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  Speaker 1: is so needed, so I commention what you're doing. Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 1: The pandemic, especially the fact that there was the word
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  Speaker 1: I used contemporaneous, uh several several pandemics happening at one time,
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  Speaker 1: from George Floyd to to to to to um too,
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  Speaker 1: our mothers and fathers getting sick and dying of the disease,
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  Speaker 1: to all the the the political uprising against it, and
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  Speaker 1: so um, all of those things took a toll on
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  Speaker 1: me in my family because I have a young black son,
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  Speaker 1: and so uh continuing to see this uh, this this
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  Speaker 1: uh hateful narrative that has been America's narrative for four
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  Speaker 1: hundred years. It's something that can be very daunting, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and and it can really be fatiguing. And so all
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  Speaker 1: of these things that happened at one time in was
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  Speaker 1: something that continued to pull me. I had to start
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  Speaker 1: going back to the h therapy myself. You know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: a black man that is very proud to uh acknowledge
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  Speaker 1: and promote uh psychological therapy, uh psychiatry for especially black men.
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  Speaker 1: But it was something that we held onto each other
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  Speaker 1: as as a family, and it put me in a
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  Speaker 1: position where my faith really had to be something that
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  Speaker 1: was not just priests, was something that was lived in
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  Speaker 1: real time. And so that was another chalice to really
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  Speaker 1: test me, to see how much I believed and how
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  Speaker 1: ruded I was, and what I was preaching and so
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  Speaker 1: or seeing in the doing so is that I think
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  Speaker 1: that the battles who are all intentional, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that they were all um for our good and to
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  Speaker 1: reset if we would allow it to do that with
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  Speaker 1: the beauty of watching you um. You know, as a
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  Speaker 1: popular word in twenty the word pivot. You know, if
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  Speaker 1: you can't do it live, how you do it virtual?
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  Speaker 1: And you know you put concerts together, you brought people
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  Speaker 1: together united, you did the verses. I believe I did
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  Speaker 1: all that play into you reaching your I consider you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm part of your congregation. I'm part of the Kirk
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  Speaker 1: Franking congregation. And I say that because I'm not I'm
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  Speaker 1: not a weekly church call. I might go to church,
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  Speaker 1: you know, periodically, and I'm not saying I show up
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  Speaker 1: on Eastern showing. I shot up on New Year's Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes I go with friends. But I am a believer
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  Speaker 1: and I think I'm one of your followers because the
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  Speaker 1: way you approach your teachings and that's how I think
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  Speaker 1: we use that word. Teachings affect me positively, and your
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  Speaker 1: music motivates me. Do you get it a lot from people? Second?
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  Speaker 1: Say that question again, please that say did you get
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  Speaker 1: that a lot from people? How you motivate them? Or
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  Speaker 1: a non church goers like me, you know who believe?
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  Speaker 1: And I say that's a negative thing to the church goers. No, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: no no no no. Let me let me say that
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  Speaker 1: I'm honored at whatever capacity to be able to do
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  Speaker 1: life with people, to to be able to be part
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  Speaker 1: of people's journey for God to uh to loan me
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  Speaker 1: words of music or whatever that I can borrow from Him,
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  Speaker 1: to just be a catalyst. Uh, That's something that I
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  Speaker 1: take a great h level of humility and responsibility in um.
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  Speaker 1: And it was never my intent to try to do
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  Speaker 1: something that would be left of center. That was that
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  Speaker 1: was That was never my attempt. I'm I'm just really
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  Speaker 1: uh someone that is very sincere by my Christian faith
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  Speaker 1: as well as also uh addressing all the areas of
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  Speaker 1: revisionist history that has uh sometimes white washed the African
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  Speaker 1: American UH sojourn through Christianity and what it was originally
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  Speaker 1: and how Europe did not influence Africa, but Africa influence Europe.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, this monotheistic approach to faith, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: really interesting. I got another show of working with business
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  Speaker 1: manager Stephen E. Smith and you becoming. You'll be making
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  Speaker 1: appearance up on one of our shows, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you know about it, on that Stephen AG's World,
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  Speaker 1: and I was excited that we were able to bring
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  Speaker 1: your voice into the arena because, you know, because Steve
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  Speaker 1: and I have sat down and said, you know, that's
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  Speaker 1: a voice you never see in sports, like from the
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  Speaker 1: perspective of who you are, and you're so unique in
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  Speaker 1: how you approach a life, Kirk, and how you approach
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  Speaker 1: the gospel that I feel comfortable bringing you in that
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  Speaker 1: arena because the way you talk, you just talking like
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  Speaker 1: a regular person. I don't know. And like I said,
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  Speaker 1: when I'm talking to you, I'm talking like I'm talking
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  Speaker 1: to a friend. I'm talking to a friend. That that
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  Speaker 1: allows me to be Rushan McDonald that that I don't
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  Speaker 1: feel that I I know I have flaws and you
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  Speaker 1: know I know how you know, well, I think that
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  Speaker 1: what what what what is interesting is that for for
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  Speaker 1: there to be even a conversation of what I do
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  Speaker 1: to be something that has some type of unique uh
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  Speaker 1: sentiment to it is. I think it is very unfortunate
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  Speaker 1: because I believe that it is the pursuit of every
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  Speaker 1: person says that says that they subscribe to a faith,
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  Speaker 1: especially a faith in Jesus Christ, which is about humility,
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  Speaker 1: It is about vulnerability. When you look at the Bible,
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  Speaker 1: and the Bible that is a chorus of misfits and
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  Speaker 1: and and and fail and like failing individuals consistently, uh,
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  Speaker 1: that were the backdrop of this beautiful uh story of
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  Speaker 1: grace and mercy. So man, you know, I and I
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  Speaker 1: think that it's very unfortunate that that that we're not
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  Speaker 1: being engaged that much in people's lives where they see
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  Speaker 1: a difference and not just wanted to, but in everyone
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  Speaker 1: that opens to them after say that. And that's why
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  Speaker 1: for me, I'm hoping that even with this podcast, it
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  Speaker 1: is just another extension of how I can contry to
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  Speaker 1: speak to an incredible man like you and and other
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  Speaker 1: individuals in ways that are entertaining, engaging and inspiring. Absolutely
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  Speaker 1: good words. What does that mean? Good words? But Kurt Franklin,
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  Speaker 1: that's the podcast. What does that mean, there's just so
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  Speaker 1: many bad ones that are There's just so many words
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  Speaker 1: of negativity, there's so many words of division, there's so
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  Speaker 1: many words that are lies, that are that that is
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  Speaker 1: misinformation that people build their truth upon, and so now
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  Speaker 1: truth becomes arbitrary, you know, and and and so uh.
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  Speaker 1: Good words is something that I'm hoping people will tune
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  Speaker 1: into to be able to get exactly that A a
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  Speaker 1: word of information, a word of engagement, a word of
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  Speaker 1: of of inspiration, so that they can be able to
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  Speaker 1: be entertained. I think that that when you hear just
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  Speaker 1: just the tapestry of artists and individuals that were interviewing,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be very unique to see their their
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  Speaker 1: intersection of culture and faith and how we can help
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  Speaker 1: other people even invented well, you know the beauty of
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  Speaker 1: this conversation. That's Dad. Okay. You know I've seen you
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  Speaker 1: so many levels of greatness, of greatness, you know, from
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  Speaker 1: on the stage hosting TV show. You know, I love
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  Speaker 1: seeing you host TV. You are you one of the
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  Speaker 1: most phenomenal host And I tell you that all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I love seeing your TV hosting. And and then you
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  Speaker 1: got your own channel, you know, music channel, so why podcast,
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  Speaker 1: Mr Franklin, You know you've got all these other ways
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  Speaker 1: to communicate social media. You're a giant. Okay, music, you're giant,
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  Speaker 1: got your own music channel. Why do we need a podcast?
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  Speaker 1: It's just another extension of communication. It is just continuing
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  Speaker 1: the conversation wherever people are that that were of their ears,
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  Speaker 1: there should there should be the story of the good news.
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  Speaker 1: That the good news should be whatever people are, and
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  Speaker 1: so we don't wait for people to come to us
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  Speaker 1: to get this good news. We are ambassadors, we are
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  Speaker 1: we are soldiers. We we are extensions of of His grace,
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  Speaker 1: his love and with good words. I wanted to be
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  Speaker 1: a place where you can see that you're not alone.
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  Speaker 1: I do think that there is this dichotomy of what
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  Speaker 1: it looks like to be a real person and try
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  Speaker 1: to hold onto real faith that they don't always seem
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  Speaker 1: to be synonymous in people's journey. And I hope that
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  Speaker 1: this podcast will allow you to get interviews from other
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  Speaker 1: people that that that live with that tension, that try
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  Speaker 1: to maneuver through what what my faith and my humanity
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  Speaker 1: should be and who should take the lead, and what
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  Speaker 1: happens when it doesn't happen and and and how I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna do it through that in my career and being
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  Speaker 1: able to manage success, to manage my own fears, my
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  Speaker 1: own anxiety. So I believe the good words will be
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  Speaker 1: a a I pray a very special uh place for
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  Speaker 1: people to come on that platform. It's just the interesting
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  Speaker 1: thing about Kurt frank I know one side of Kurt.
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  Speaker 1: I know it backwards and forward. Now there's what type
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  Speaker 1: of food this Kurt Franklin like the are you a
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  Speaker 1: barbecue man? Or you are pizza man, a hamburger man?
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  Speaker 1: Or you just shan I like to stay in shape.
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  Speaker 1: What are your key do? What are what are you? Brother?
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  Speaker 1: What are you? Is? I eat really clean, try to
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  Speaker 1: eat really clear. Christ no Krispykree, No Krispy Kreme. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't at Krispy Kreme and a few years. But but
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  Speaker 1: but but but now as I do have cheat days,
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  Speaker 1: I do have cheap days, and in my cheat days,
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  Speaker 1: I do go ham right. But but I think the
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  Speaker 1: problem that we can all attest to that week. We can,
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  Speaker 1: we can, we can we can all be uh witnesses hallelujah.
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  Speaker 1: About is that this pandemic, bro, this pandemic has messed
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  Speaker 1: up everybody's food playing, and because man, you know you're
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  Speaker 1: trying to eat right. But you know, earlier on in
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  Speaker 1: that pandemic when everything was shut down, it's like, but
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  Speaker 1: what am I eating good for? I ain't gonna be
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  Speaker 1: from no camera, and so you just ate the whole
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  Speaker 1: grocery stuff and now, okay, that's that. That's there. Now,
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  Speaker 1: how about music other than gospel music? What R and
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  Speaker 1: B music are rap music? Do you listen to Kirk
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  Speaker 1: Franklin Old school or new school? I listened to everything.
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  Speaker 1: I am a student of the craft. I listened to
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  Speaker 1: everything from Jasmine Sullivan's new album to UH. I listened
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  Speaker 1: to whatever Drake drops. I listened to whatever uh, Fred
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  Speaker 1: Hammond's drops. I listened to whatever Yo Yo my drops.
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  Speaker 1: I listened to whatever Adele drops. I listened to uh
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  Speaker 1: anything that's gonna be either old Miles or Snarky Puppy.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm just a fandom. He's here, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he's the funny point by my get my Car. Here's
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  Speaker 1: my first three songs. Okay, because you know I'm old school, Kurt.
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  Speaker 1: You know the melodies from Heaven. I gotta I gotta,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I gotta have that that that if I
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  Speaker 1: get my car by five o'clock in the morning coming
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  Speaker 1: to my office, so that gets me on fire. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Then I go to rock Star by the Baby. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's my whole genre, you know, my and so and so.
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  Speaker 1: Then I then I go to Kim you know, uh
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  Speaker 1: and so so and then I that slowed down a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more with Anthony Hamilton's that's my first fourth
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  Speaker 1: songs in my podcast and my excuse me in my
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  Speaker 1: in my player on my truck. When I want to
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  Speaker 1: start rolling, what would be your first four songs, Kurt
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  Speaker 1: not putting yours? My first fourth song, first fourth song
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  Speaker 1: mineus melodies from Heaven the Baby with rock Star. Then
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  Speaker 1: I slide into Kim like Sharlene from Anthony hamilton first
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  Speaker 1: four songs. Is I can't say that I am that
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  Speaker 1: that consistent, uh in in that process. You know. It's
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  Speaker 1: some mornings I'll listen to, you know, a a teaching
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  Speaker 1: podcast the first thing in the morning, you know, is
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  Speaker 1: I may listen to some old school you know, Walter Hawkins,
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  Speaker 1: uh you know, uh Undercrackcher, or is I may listen
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  Speaker 1: to something to give me lit my way to the gym.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It could be a Drake record,
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  Speaker 1: It could be a a you know EVERYBN Rock Kim record.
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  Speaker 1: It could be you know, you know jay Z record.
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  Speaker 1: There you go, you know. So so you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: is that I have a I have a big appetite
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  Speaker 1: for music, and and one doesn't win over the other. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, when when we look at good Word for
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  Speaker 1: Kurt Franklin and then the press really came out, they
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  Speaker 1: mentioned your interviewer for Real, you know, just to give
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  Speaker 1: a sense of the type of talent or celebrity level
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  Speaker 1: that will be part of the shows is important to
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  Speaker 1: for individuals like for Real to not only discuss their faith,
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  Speaker 1: but also tell the side of the story that's not
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  Speaker 1: entertainment driven or selling albums or movies or things like that.
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  Speaker 1: Why isn't that important? Well, I think that's even more
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  Speaker 1: important now because there were we are at this crossroads
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  Speaker 1: that in in American culture, American society, and even in
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  Speaker 1: our belief systems, that that that that these that during
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  Speaker 1: this pandemic is going to change the trajectory of how
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  Speaker 1: people process what is real and what matters. And a
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  Speaker 1: lot of times the people that have impacted culture more
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  Speaker 1: than others, may be the greater microphone of how to
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  Speaker 1: be able to navigate through those things as well as
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  Speaker 1: being able to give another side so that we can
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  Speaker 1: be able to start we can be able to start
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  Speaker 1: fixing a lot of the holes that have been in
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  Speaker 1: what people consider organized religion, that we can pull on
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  Speaker 1: some of the barriers, so that we can be able
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  Speaker 1: to even uh uh, even trying to articulate more misinformation
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  Speaker 1: that has been passed down generationally to people of color,
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  Speaker 1: and and to be able to also unpack the weaponization
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  Speaker 1: of Christianity, to be able to uh to understand that
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  Speaker 1: Western Christianity and the teachings of Jesus Christ are not
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  Speaker 1: s aynonymous necessarily and so uh and and and then
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  Speaker 1: also how people maneuver through their temptations of successful Gussie,
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  Speaker 1: there's trauma already being an African American, but there's an
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  Speaker 1: extra layer of trauma when you become successful. Success brings
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  Speaker 1: its own level of trauma. When you say a recognization
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  Speaker 1: of Christianity, what exactly you referencing in that? And not
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  Speaker 1: trying to be negative, I'm just just trying to get
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  Speaker 1: a clear definition of what you mean say that. Oh yeah, well, well,
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  Speaker 1: well when you look at um, when you look at
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  Speaker 1: the colonizes, everything was was was from the from the
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  Speaker 1: bibliocentric lens of misinformation and revisionist history, where where where
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  Speaker 1: it was weaponized to uh keep people marginalized, to keep
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  Speaker 1: people oppressed, to uh to even create a misogynistic tone
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  Speaker 1: to women's roles, even in Christianity. And so when you
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  Speaker 1: weaponize something, it uh you become a very authoritarian in
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  Speaker 1: your approach to what God is, because God will be
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  Speaker 1: whatever it's beneficial to the one that holds the weapon
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  Speaker 1: or or or the tool that could be used for
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  Speaker 1: good or bad. It's almost like fire. Fire is good
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  Speaker 1: for cooking, it's good for being able to keep people
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  Speaker 1: warm and comfortable, but out of control, they can burn
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  Speaker 1: down the city. And so that's what Christianity throughout history,
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  Speaker 1: from from the Crusades onto the trans Atlantis slave trade,
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  Speaker 1: there were times where where you had you even had
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  Speaker 1: a chaplains on the slave ship, right, absolutely white chaplains
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  Speaker 1: not mean that there's something uh intuitively wrong with with
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  Speaker 1: the message of Jesus. Christ has been something uh intrinsically
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  Speaker 1: wrong with a lot of those that have been the
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  Speaker 1: microphones to be able to proclaim that faith. You know,
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  Speaker 1: when I when I when I talk about faith. The
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  Speaker 1: fifth song that I have all that I listened to
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  Speaker 1: h we lost him in a friend of our your mine? Uh,
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  Speaker 1: something about the name Jesus. And you know, Um, and
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  Speaker 1: I remember when I interviewed, I think the second time
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  Speaker 1: he was on my show. I didn't realize you wrote
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  Speaker 1: that song. He said, yeah, I wrote that, and and
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  Speaker 1: that that. You know, whenever I would that that song
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  Speaker 1: is so important to me, whenever you know somebody's down, kirt,
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  Speaker 1: I sent it to him. Somebody has a depth in
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  Speaker 1: the family, I sent it to him. They don't know
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  Speaker 1: how to find direction in their life. I sent it
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  Speaker 1: to him. Um. Give us the thought process in writing
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  Speaker 1: a song like that and did get it produced and
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  Speaker 1: having an amazing artist like him, you know, And it's been,
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  Speaker 1: it's been. It's been remade by a couple of young ladies.
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  Speaker 1: And I've heard that version. I like their version too.
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  Speaker 1: It was fantastic. And so talk about that process behind
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  Speaker 1: that song. Well, you know, it's not much of a
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  Speaker 1: a headline story. Uh, the the the inception of that song.
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  Speaker 1: It was just a song that dropped in my head
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  Speaker 1: that I that I thought would be a nice moment
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  Speaker 1: and reached out to Ranch allen Um and men of
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  Speaker 1: Standard because I wanted to take the old school and
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  Speaker 1: new School to proad together. And it was just so
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  Speaker 1: It's a song God gave me and and the genius
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  Speaker 1: of Rant Salin watching him come into the studio and
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  Speaker 1: to be so so much of a surgeon, like he's
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  Speaker 1: a surgeon behind them like and and and to be
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  Speaker 1: able to see him be uh so fluid in his
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  Speaker 1: gift was a beautiful thing to the whole. And so
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  Speaker 1: it was a moment that I'll never forget. And it
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  Speaker 1: was and it was, it was. It was a song
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  Speaker 1: that would have never known at the time that would
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  Speaker 1: have impacted people and touch people the way it did,
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  Speaker 1: would have never would have never seen that coming. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I saw the story that Rants came into
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  Speaker 1: my life of BT celebration of Gods because you know
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  Speaker 1: Steve Harvan that was there every year with you guys,
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  Speaker 1: and it was all he performed on stage with you,
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  Speaker 1: And that was the first time I heard it. Is
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: it's something magical because we hear music a lot, but
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  Speaker 1: when you hear a song from the very first word,
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  Speaker 1: and it stage with you, and it builds with you,
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  Speaker 1: and it takes you through these emotional up and downs.
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  Speaker 1: And at the end of that song, when I heard
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  Speaker 1: it live in Los Angeles doing that taping, I was
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  Speaker 1: in tears. And it wasn't a negative tearing. It was
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: a positivity of of of an awakening inside yourself. Because
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I'll just change some Kurt. When I talk to you, man,
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  Speaker 1: it's always you know, you're such a gifted young man.
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  Speaker 1: And I say young because I'm older than you, and
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  Speaker 1: and I say that because sometimes you're so humble that
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  Speaker 1: the impact you make on people of all ages needs
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  Speaker 1: to be under some ways glorified because you change people.
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  Speaker 1: You change the way I get up, You change with
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: my family impacts my wife, she goes to church. I
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: don't you know my daughter gonna go to church and so.
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  Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean I I failed to believe in
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  Speaker 1: God lesser. But I know that the story I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to get you allowed me to tell it my way.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what you're doing with uh. I believe when
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: you're dropping this podcast good Words with Kurt Franklin, you're
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: it's just another expression of communication like You're saying, reaching
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  Speaker 1: people and telling them your story and then sharing another
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  Speaker 1: story is kind of like what I'm doing with money
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  Speaker 1: making conversations. I'm allowing them talk a story, but in
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: this lane. And that's really important, isn't it, Kurt exactly?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: And thank you again. And I'm just extremely appreciative to
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: be able to be part of just a a fragment
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  Speaker 1: of the journey that people's UH lives continue to take
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  Speaker 1: them on and that the music has allowed them to
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  Speaker 1: be able to see a greater God in the midst
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: of some of the deepest and darkest days that they
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: may go through. And and even with the podcast, it
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: is there needs to be so many different conversations that
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: can happen at the same time that that every platform
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  Speaker 1: does not give you the freedom to have that conversation
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: where there may be more intellectual conversations that can happen
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: through the podcast, that may be a lot more foolishness
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: that I can have fun with and enjoy dinner podcasts,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: and so uh, it just gives you a liberty that
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: you don't have on stage. It gives you liberty then
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you don't have in a recording studio. You are being
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: able to now engage a different side of a person's
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  Speaker 1: life that they did not really see their faith that
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: because you know some people's faith a lot of times
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: it's still lack a spare time. It's something that they
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: pull they something they pull out when they need it,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: and it's not the fabric of their daily existence. So
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: they get frustrated when they see it not work and
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: something like well where is God? God don't work? I
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: don't see And it's like, well, it's very difficult to
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: be able to tap into what God is and what
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  Speaker 1: he will do if it's only a non one one
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  Speaker 1: situation that He continues to be postured in when it
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: comes to your life. And so hopefully does even good
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  Speaker 1: words will that you hear from other people that you
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  Speaker 1: don't see in church all the time, you don't see
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: in church platforms give you a lens of where they are,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: the good, the bad, the ugly in their life and
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: where God has stood in Wow, so we last year
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: because of the pandemic, you couldn't do your all door festival.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: How this year? I know there's Texas that's where you're
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: based with the festival. How is it looking at something
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: you produce that you book it is all out of
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: your production company, which I love to talk about. We
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: talked about that last time. Becoming a true entrepreneur. Uh,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: controlling your destiny? How does it look for oh man?
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: You know we we we will see where God leaves.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I'm I have learned in my time on this earth,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: you know, while I'm visiting, is that you can make
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  Speaker 1: the plans, but God at times last, you know, And
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: so you have to make sure that you are surrendering
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  Speaker 1: your dreams and making sure that each Because here's the
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  Speaker 1: thing that I really believe about my faith. And again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not on your sure to try to proselytized. I'm
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  Speaker 1: here because I am a product of grace, of God's
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  Speaker 1: grace and mercy. That's the only reason why I get
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: to be part of great platforms like this. You know
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: it because I'm cute. Even though I am cute, That
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  Speaker 1: is not what God what that That that that that
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: we have to understand man, that what we believe should
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: be transferable, That it shouldn't be something that just stays
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  Speaker 1: with us and dies with us. That it should be
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: something that can be part of the fragment of people's
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  Speaker 1: daily existence. And we haven't done that well. As as
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: people of faith, We've only made Sunday Morning in a
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  Speaker 1: Sunday suit the epitome of what believing is. And so
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that with everything that I'm able to do
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  Speaker 1: whatever God calls me for this year is that I
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: want to make sure that my dreams and our distractions,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: and so that the only way to know how to
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: do that is to take my dreams and filter them
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: through my faith. We know the interesting you. I'm gonna
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: make a little shift here. Melanie Holt was on my
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: show recently and uh, she hosts a show called Behind
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: every Man and you on the show and it was
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: and you know, I get I get access to everything now,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm moving up in the food chain, not Kurt,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you know the later early for everybody. Everything. Now you're
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: on there with your your beautiful wife. Just like I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: mentioned my wife and how important she is to me,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: how I was important to do a show like that
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  Speaker 1: because Behind every Man tells us her story and the
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  Speaker 1: impact that she has on your life and you have
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  Speaker 1: on your life and the faith as well. I wasn't
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: important to do that show with your wife. Well, it
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: was just important for me for people to get a
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: chance like I'm always looking for moments to showcase and
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: celebrate this incredible woman who has always lifted me up
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  Speaker 1: and everybody, uh not at all times got a chance
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  Speaker 1: to see Tanny, and I want to be able to
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: celebrate her when when there's a platform that comes my way.
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  Speaker 1: Is because I want people to understan Dan that I
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  Speaker 1: am what I am because of her. It is God
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  Speaker 1: using her as the conduit that that that that all
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  Speaker 1: his blessings slow. Because if I was a single man,
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  Speaker 1: I probably would not be the most integral or the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: most responsible because I would probably still be doing with
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: single man at times do and so a lot of
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: times when you live that life, you are blocking the
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: conversation and the covering that God wants to give us,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: because He's not going to give you the keys to
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  Speaker 1: something that you're going to drive into a wall. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: show man. You know, I always appreciate you man taking
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  Speaker 1: the time to talk to Rashon McDonald man, because uh,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I know you're busy, man. I'm just trying to just
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  Speaker 1: trying to thank you, thank you, but you more on that, man.
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  Speaker 1: You inspire me and that and that's why whatever you
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  Speaker 1: come on this, I gotta remind you. Man. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know people look at me as being
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  Speaker 1: very successful, but behind that success and like I said,
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  Speaker 1: also good friends and uh and your friend and I
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  Speaker 1: talking to me as an individual, but brother, you've saved
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  Speaker 1: Yo Yo and a Julie tell us about everybody about
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  Speaker 1: the Cafe Moke Radio platform for women of color only. Yes, yes,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Well when we started and thanks to you, one of
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the first big TV shows that we did and big
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: events that we did was the Hoodie Awards and we
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: were so excited because we felt like that was in
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: our second year. We just celebrated ten years by the way, um,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: and you gave us that opportunity to kind of put
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: us on in the spotlight. Um. You know, when I
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: came up with the concept or Cafe Mocha, I did
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: not want it to be named after any one woman.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: It was about women coming together to empower one another.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: And it really became as a result of watching a
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: lot of what we were seeing on TV at the time,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: with some of the well of the shows that I
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: just felt did not really depict who the full scope
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: of who we are African American women. UM, so I decided,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: let's put together a show that represents us, that we
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: can all work together to inspire one another, and the
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: stories of the women on the show, and that the
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: women that we honor along the way in these ten
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: years will hopefully inspire other women. And that's really how
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: the show came about. Um, and we just celebrated ten years.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: We've got Lonnie Love who you know it's on the
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: rideo uh. And Lonnie is unique in that she's such
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: a well with comedian, so she could go from having
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: topical conversations to giving you that aha moment uh and
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: and and making you feel good. Um. And then we
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: have Yo Yo who's out around the Way girl, who
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: represents all the sisters that I have been there and
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: are going through it and have made it through. Um.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: And she represents the West Coast of course. And then
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: we have Angelique Parent who is an amazing do ser
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: and voice over character artist. UM. That is she just
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: brings the show to live alive. I mean, I'm blessed
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: in that to have a concept and then be able
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: to bond with three women that really bring that concept
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to live, you know, it's that's not easy, and so
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I feel very blessed you know, have that and for
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: us to have been together for ten you know, for
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: ten years. So, um, where are we going from here? Well,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: quite honestly, we'd like to take the concept to television
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: or streaming, So that's kind of where we had it. Uh, yes,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: So that's where we're looking to navigate, and especially now
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: given the streaming platform has come so full circle. Um,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: you know with the pandemic. Um, that's really kind of
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: where we're headed. And you know, we feel like with
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: the local podcast network and then our syndication, we can
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: offer a full range for um, you know, for our
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: listeners and for our advertisers. Yeah, before we get to
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: the podcast network, I want to talk about the Sleut
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Awards because you and I were talking last year about
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: producing some of these lives because before the pandemic hit,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and then also we kept pushing days and pushing days,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: we realized the pandemic is not going anywhere and the
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: ability to do live events are gonna go away, and
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: so now you have to Sleuth awards their virtual I'm
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: assuming that you have three of them coming up, correct, Yes, Yeah,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: the Saluna what they are virtual Salute Her Awards as
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: where we are the women because the Cafe Mocha is
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: called radio from a woman's perspective, So we want to
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: put the spotlight on women from celebrities to uh, women
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: who don't know all working in service to support the community. UM.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: So that's the Salute Her Awards and that's coming up.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: The next one is for Women's History mom UM in March.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: March the first in March sixteen, and then in June
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: we're going to go back to Salute them and we're
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: gonna celebrate Black music and so we will do Salute Them. UM.
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: One of the things that came about, and this is
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: thanks to someone that we know, Rashan McDonald, UM, is
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: that we needed to do more to honor the full
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: spectrum of our community and we didn't want to alienate men.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: And so as a result, we decided that if we
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: did salute them, then we are honoring women, men and
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: organizations that all have a common goal of serving the community. UM.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: And so the Salute Them Awards will be a jew
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: and then we're going back in September where we're doing
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: in conjunction with a Congressional Black concuss and that will
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: be the Salute Her Award. So we kind of go
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: back and forth, but the common denominator is that we
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: are saluting and paying tribute to people organizations that are
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: making a difference in our culture and in our community.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I know you are a lot of marketing and event
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: production for the Essence platform, in particular Essence Music Festival,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Essence Festival Apologize last year was canceled, actually was pushed
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: a little bit, and then they realized that because of
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the pandemic, is we should aboid it all together. Any
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: word yet has been announced that's gonna come back in
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: New Orleans in the summertime, or doing the fourth of
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: July weekend, or that's still on hold. That's still on hold.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I think a lot is going to be determined based
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: on the first quarter you wanted this year, um, and
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: how New Orleans and how Louisiana develops. Um. But right
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: now I would venture to say it will probably be
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: virtual again, but um it growing to half people, that's
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: a lot. And then and then on that multi day
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: event on fourth it was like a write of passage
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: A lot of times. I know, you go down there, girl,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: you've been the Essence, Come on down let's go with
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: two black experience and a lot of people don't know
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: it had a diverse draws. Well, it wasn't always on
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: African Americans that attended the Essence Festival. It was really
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: diverse in a lot of ways. Let's talk about the
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: whole virtual versus live event experience, because that's a different sale,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: that's a different approach. You can't count people. And actually,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: in some way, when you go virtual, it becomes an
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: international event because it's not really tied to that particular
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: market or that particular city that you're doing the event,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: and just wear talking about people who listening to the show.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: This is money making conversation. What are some of the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: hoops you had to jump or something that changed you
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: had to do your platform to encourage advertisers to experience
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: the virtual platform versus traditional live event platforms. I have
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: to tell you that I am really um surprised and
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: happy that corporations have started to pivot you know with
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: the production um because we do events and I was
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: really concerned and some of our sponsors you know, had
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: a concern about going virtual, but they see the value
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: now of reaching like far more people. UM, your social media,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: your digital all your promotions. UM. For them, it's it's
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: broadening their brand, and it's it's even better than the
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: actual events, the actual in person events. Because you know,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: my plan is to go back to in person events
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: in two if that we can do that, but my
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: sponsors like the virtual experience and are saying maybe you
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: should stay in this space and really grow this space.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: And so that's what we're looking to do. We might
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: you know, we will probably go back and do some
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: in person events. But I have to tell you that
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: this virtual space is very intriguing because ultimately, like I said,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: my goal is to go to television or to go
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: to more you know, some of the streaming services um.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: And this has kind of escalated that process into moving
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: in that area. UM. So you gotta have a great
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: production team and learning production very fast um and and
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: and a good editor um and you know in concepts
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: and great writers. But you know that. I mean you
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: were doing when you were ahead of the game on
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: all of this. So um but we're all catching up.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: But yes, I like this virtual space. While I love
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: it because like I said, uh, you know, if you
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: do it been in Atlanta in the venue, if it's
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: a thousand people or two thousand people that tend to
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: do it. That's all who saw That's all who saw it.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Where now when you go virtual, I my whole thing
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: because I was doing it with the neighborhood. I was
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: streaming live and do the live event. So I was saying,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: do both, because you don't want to lose their international growth.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: It's it's it's fun to see the people in Australia
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: or Spain, or South Africa or Degreement watching your brand
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: grow and it has a it has a big plus there.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: So I would say keep both, keep growing your brand
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: because you are an international brand and you've only been
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: a fit about being bigger. Well, I'm surprised at the
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: people that are, you know, responding to us from other countries,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: you know, especially in Africa, which is very interesting, you know.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: And Ireland loves you too, by the way, just let
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: you know that. Let's talk about my favorite. I've been
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: waiting to talk about this because I want to talk
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: about each one of these shows. I hope you know
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: them all, because I want to talk about every last
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: one your podcast, your podcast, because there has so many
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: names on here and people that I know. But let's talk.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Let's start with this one. They really caught my eye.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: The Funcky the Two. The two Funny Mom was hosted
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: by a sheriff, Shephard and Kent Win, the two of
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: my favorite people I know. They were doing it on
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: the Tom join the show before he ended his syndication,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: so he just snapped him up. Yes, Well, they had started,
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: you know, doing the podcast, and they really needed well, first,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: what I found is that most people that have podcasts
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: having figured out how to monetize at number one and
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: number two, how to really you know, put it into
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: a business and really develop it. Um. And so for
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Sherry and for Kim, who were you know, very busy
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: with their other careers, and everything that we did was
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: help them kind of put a structure to it and
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: it has done extremely well. UM. And that's just an
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: extension of you know, they say, well, you know, black
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: women can't always work together, can't have too many women,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: you know, But I don't subscribe to that because all
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: the women that I've worked with and worked with, UM,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: we just make it work. You know, we kind of
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: fit in with what we have to do to make
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: it work. And um. And so they wanted to join
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: the podcast network is one of the lead podcasters. And
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: it's been great. I mean, it's it's you know, it's
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: been a great experience. We started out, we've already got
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: sponsors on board and you know, and they're excited and everything.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: So yes, those ladies and it's a funny podcast, but
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: it's it's life. It's about you know. The podcast network
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: is really a lifestyle network for women and the color
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: um so and they bring that to you know, giving
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: their children in their careers and everything. Yeah. Yeah, both
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: of my single moms. That's so that's that we know,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the population of single moms keep seems, unfortunately, seems to
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: be growing every year. And you're looking for guys, they're
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: looking to be entertained. So it sells itself there. But
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Kim is amazingly funny and I've known her all the
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: way back to my Parenthood sitcom writing days. The same
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: thing with Sherry Shepherd. I met her when I was
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: doing Jamie Fox as a as a co executive producer
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: of that show. But the podcast local podcast Network as
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: a platform bringing authentic voices and perspective of multicultural talent,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: including entertainers. What you just said, Shepherd and the Sherry
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: Shepherd and Kemp Wiley journal ust experts with the following shows. Now,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that the Funky Divas podcast hosted by involved Now,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: how did which invoked members do you have? Okay, we
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: have Terry Ella my good who yes who HBC year
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: by the way, and was HBCU too? Um? And then
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: we have Cindy Hamon Braggs. And then we have Rona
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Ben and you might know Rona from the Jamie Box Show. Um.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: And so they have been I mean they've been a trio.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know, but they've been a
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: trio for almost seventeen years. You know is the newest member.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: But they're celebrating their thirties. They were selling last year.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: They celebrating your City cancers and um. The idea for
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: the podcast. You know, I went to them and said, look,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: you need to tell your story to stay together for
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: thirty years and they've been through we know they've been
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: through some change, they've been you know, experiences. You know,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: you need to tell your story because other people need
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: to hear that, and your fans need to hear that.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Another young groups need to hear that. Another females need
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: to hear out. You have kind of stayed in year
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: and gotten through this and so that's really what the
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: podcast is about. It was the celebration of their thirties
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: anniversary and it was so well need that. You know,
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: it's just now taken off, you know, weird um. They'll
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: be doing every you know, we've been doing it once
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: a month. Now we're doing it every two weeks then
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: just you know, and they're really getting into it and
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: they're speaking from their perspective and very honestly from their perspective.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: So yeah, we called it the Funky Divas because that's
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: what in Vogue is known for as the Funky Well.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I like it because when you start talking about singing
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: group female singing groups, you know, it's the Supremes. To me,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: it's in Vogue and then its Destiny's Child. Those are
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: three you know that to me, a legendary that resonating.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: So to have their voices not being solemn, and that's
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: what this podcast is all about, giving authentic voices. That's
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: what you're talking about. People talking for a point of reference,
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: can give career advice, to give advice about the loads
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: of success when it does not happen and when you
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: at the peak of the game, but more important, it's
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: the longevity. Thirty years. That's a long time. And I
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: know these people. So you've got a lot of HBCU people.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Not forget that Loney Love is a reviewer and m
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: HBCU people. I think, uh kim with it from Fisk
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Him Fisk, Tennessee, Tennessee. Yeah, I kind of stop press.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I know all these people. You got
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: to show which I love. I love. Now. Now let's
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: go back to my girl, the Vegans Sexy Cool podcast
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: hosted by Jackie Reid. How did you get Jackie Radio?
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: You know, I did not realize that there were so
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: many African Americans and black folks that are dingy and um.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: When I talked to Jackie and she told me kind
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: of how she came up with the idea. She lost
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: the dog, her dog pads, and I think, if you know,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: what she realized is how important it is what you
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: feed and what you put in your body. And she
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: said that she just kind of went on that journey
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: in veganism and now she's in it. Um and I'm surprised.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: She gave me a recipe for some greens that had
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: don't meet at all. And when I tell you those
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: greens good. So she is. She has her podcast and
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: we're excited about that, and um, we're going to be
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: doing a she's going to be doing a series panel
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: discussions with African Americans. You know, in addition that are
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: celebrities that are vegans and understanding that it's a difference
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: between the vegetarian and a vegan. I didn't realize that. So, um,
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: it's it's an exciting of course. You know. Jackie is um,
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: you know, just a journalist, a great journalist. So she
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: brings a lot of new information, you know, to the podcast.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Now one of my favorite people you have as brash
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: and shaw. Uh superpower, my girl. Tell me how that
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: relationship was created because I interviewed her recently on Monimating Conversation.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: She's an inspiration to me personally and to have on
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: the show, motivating people and tell them there is tomorrow.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: When people tell you that isn't it? That might not
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: be a tomorrow? I think to me. For she represents
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: on your network, is amazing. Talk about that relationship. Yeah,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: she she came. Actually I didn't really know her. I
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: knew of her. One of our affiliates w BLS and
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: New York he told her, you need to connect with
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: she or Elbridge, and he told me we needed to connect,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: and she and I just connected and it was like
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: we know one another for years, you know, um, and
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: that's kind of how we connect. It was through a
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: radio one of my radio affiliates. And she's she's amazing.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, she she's she's a duo. I mean she
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: just goes and gets it done and she can just
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: inspire people. So she's very very and she's very special.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: So you know, she's a cancer survivor and she's a
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: superwoman four times cancer survivor. And so when somebody's delivered
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: that that information to you that many times and you
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: still is upbeat as she is, it's still forward thinking.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: This she is. That podcast is as as a definitely
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: listen to because it's not about, uh, the fact that
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: she's a cancervivor. She's letting you know that when people
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: give you direct, you know, addic messages of information that
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: you feel may not allow you to have the life
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: that you want to have, what do you do? And
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: she her messages keep going, keep playing, keep living your dream,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: and keep accelerating to the next page of success. That's
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: why I love and I love the diversity of when
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: when I'm looking together Vegan host, you got miss Shaw
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: and then Dea Direct. I haven't heard Dea. She still
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: based out of the Dallas Yep, she still based out
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: of Dallage. And she's you know, she's dealing with mental health,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: dealing with relationships. Uh and and and mental and mental
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: health and mentopause. Okay, she said, can I talk about
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: I said, yes, that's this network is a lifestyle network
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: and I of women going through metapalls. So we conversation definitely.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: So you know Dea, Um, you know she is very
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: direct and we excited, uh you know with her podcast.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: But you're right, um, the goal is that you all
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: the podcasts are being curated, so we our philosophy is
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: it's more equality versus quantity on the network and that
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: you can come to this network, um in a week
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: and listen to the different podcasts and get a full
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: you get some laughter, you know. I mean whenever a
• 55:22
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  Speaker 1: from a standpoint, You've created a voice, a channel, and
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• 57:25
  Speaker 1: becausehen I went to these women, like you said, it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty competitive out there. UM, but we're that's the reason
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  Speaker 1: why we're niche you know. I I'm about um empowering women.
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  Speaker 1: I like startups and growing businesses and growing platforms, UM
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  Speaker 1: and empowering women. That's our platform, and so I just
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  Speaker 1: stayed with what we do and who we are in
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  Speaker 1: our lane and we just keep driving through. And we
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  Speaker 1: have a nice group of advertisers now that we've developed
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  Speaker 1: over the last ten years that they're with us. They've
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  Speaker 1: seen the results and they take the chance with us.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's what's unique about this network too, is
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• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. Um. But yeah, Lelanda was just
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: like I'm I'm on it so so so that you
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: can see how it's a nice rounding out. Oh it's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Like I said, I've been I looked up and go,
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  Speaker 1: to be so short and there's so much it gets
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  Speaker 1: before I go, I want to talk about this this
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  Speaker 1: Cafe virtual digital series. What exactly this first time I've
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• 59:24
  Speaker 1: which you and now you create a new digital series
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: or the Cafe Moka to the goal, salute her soul
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  Speaker 1: sessions and she boutique. What exactly is all that? Well?
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: The you know, because with the whole pandemic, I found
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: that more people honestly were on the digital on the
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: platforms Facebook and on social media platforms. And you know,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: the talent for the radio show is talent bats they
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: have other you know, TV and careers and so they
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: stay true to the radio show. UM. But what we
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  Speaker 1: decided to do was is to take a topical calm
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  Speaker 1: segment show that's on Facebook called Cafe Moka to Go
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  Speaker 1: It might be you know, certain subjects. We did a
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  Speaker 1: lot obviously when you know the voting season, um. And
• 1:00:28
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• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: an extension of the Cafe Moka brand, but it's a
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  Speaker 1: many people responded and said, well, who also have you honored?
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  Speaker 1: And so what we decided to do will start Soul Sessions.
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• 1:01:52
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• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: where we feature UM small businesses and not just female
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  Speaker 1: you realize your role that you have and with your
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  Speaker 1: daughter who's loving now? Well, I got caught up in
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: it because one my daughter was actually doing things with
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  Speaker 1: uh G J seam on the team and meet J
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: team at the Mamba Academy, so she was familiar with
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: both of those you know people, So that happened it
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: kind of hit a little bit closer. I mean, obviously
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: was sad for anybody to go down like that, whether
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  Speaker 1: it be a main well named person or just anybody.
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  Speaker 1: But what really hit me was the girls that were
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  Speaker 1: around my my daughter's age not able to actually live
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  Speaker 1: their life and got cut short. And talking to her
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: about it, it really hit home for me. I'm like, dang,
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  Speaker 1: Like literally, these are somebody that you was actually an
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: academy my mama charity, practicing with, practice against and now
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're gone. And it's very sad
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: for that to happen. But that right there kind of
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: hit closer to home to me because of the little
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: girls that were running my my daughter's age was actually
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: round my daughter as well, you know, my bringing my
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: daughter because she was a professional athlete. You know, she
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: was a tennis prodigy, you know, so she was home
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: schooled and she played on the Tenants Tour, Professional Tendance
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Tour and then she blew out her knee and and
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: when she blow I always remembered like the week before
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and she asked me, she said, Dad, what do
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  Speaker 1: you She Dad? Can I Can I do something else?
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: And I said, what you wanna do? She said, I
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: want to go to college. And you've been an athlete,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: and you know you just as a gifted athlete, you know,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: a smart guy from Oklahoma City like you said, you
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: went from university diversity. Do you feel that you were
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: ever pushed along or did anybody ever stop and ask
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: Shelton what he wanted in the early years or you
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: just positioned to be this great athlete and you had
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: no other option. Well, growing up, my dad he played basketball,
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: he played in college as well, But for me and
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: my younger brother, he didn't want us to follow in
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: his footsteps. It wanted to kind of find our own path, right,
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: granted my dad's six eight, my mom is to five eleven,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: right to be in our feature. So, um, I went
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: from playing baseball, soccer and footballers. Oklahoma is a big
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: football state, absolutely, and what's that as an Absolutely? You
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: come Oklahoma City, Come on that, Oklhoba, come on that, right?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: And then I went into basketball, basket all in football
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: all of until my present year. And where I got
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: moved up to the high school team is back home.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Ninth grade was still junior high. So I was able
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: to do both those things. But honestly, with my dad,
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: he wanted us to find our own path. And once
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: we actually found our own path, he was all right,
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: this is what you wanna do. Are you sure all right?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Are right, if you're gonna do this, then this is
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: what we need to do to get better every year.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: And he kind of laid out guidelines for me and
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: my younger brother to follow if you want to be
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: successful and not sport well, you know, because we're got
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: to talk about your foundation. But I was just kind
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: of getting everybody assisted who you are, you know, your
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: story because the fact that you're a gifted athlete. You know,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: there are some steps that go through the process that
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: you can get pushed the long. I know that, you know,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: as my daughter got better, you know, specialized coaches are
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: coming around. You know, I was, you know, because they
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: wanted to fix his fix her her backhand, you know,
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: fix her serve, you know, fix her groundstrokes and all that.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: But that's that period and not fast forward show. Yeah,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: I am academies. You have social media. What was the
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: worst thing you had to deal with when you were
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: coming out of high school that the players have to
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: deal with today? You know, because technology it has to
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: be with the one thing is the social media or
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: is it is it the academies, is it the the circuits?
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: What is it? Well? For me, I kind of missed
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: the area, the area because they didn't come until later
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: on where the old social media platforms and the I
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: M G s. It was kind of later on in
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: my high school career they kind of kind of made
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: a big time. But when I was actually growing up,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: if you had any kind success, it was in the
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: front page of newspaper. So we're reading that, and then
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, people circling, you know, every time
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: they pay gets you that Hey, you know, you had
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: to target in your back so minor compared to what
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: it is with the social media. But if you read
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: the paper, your parents got the paper, and your pictures
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: on the front page of that sports section, people start
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: paying attention to who you are, and then all of
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: a sudden, your name kind of circulates throughout your whole
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: area and people are trying to come after you from that,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: you know, because you know, because you know, social media
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: exists now and it's like certain people shouldn't be certain
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: people shouldn't be on social media. You know that to
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: shell certain people should be cut off. You know, they
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: Twitter to cut Donald Trump, They need to be cutting
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: some of these athletes. So as you because you're a mentor,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: now you're a mentor, you as one of those been there,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: done that. Uh, the success is part of your resume.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: Duke University Hall of Famer. What you know? And I
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: would tell you this, Sheldon. I you know, I wasn't
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: a big fan of yours because you're just so good
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: in college and you played for Duke. You know, I'll
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: just tell you I love you as a man, as
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: a person, because Duke was just man. How did you
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: pick Duke? Man? You're in Oklahoma football country, you te
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: right there, University of Texas is right there. You know
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, How did you go way over to
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: Duke to play basketball? Well, that's a question that I got.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: It's a lot when I was leaving the state of Oklahoma.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: Like my high school teammate with the OU, my high
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: school au teammate with OU. So they're trying to do
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: that the package deal. You let's go, you know kind
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: of like you know, Oklahoma boys stay in Oklahoma, which
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: was cool. But you're trying to tell me the best
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: of boath world Duke academics and do basketball and you
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: have a chance to go there. That's that compare. Like,
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: my dad was a big educator, so education was very
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: high on our list of schools. When we actually looking
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: for schools and played for it, so they have the
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: best of both worlds. It didn't compare Dude, Texas Duke,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: oh you it didn't know it to school was the
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: ship to stop with Shaw stop. It was no comparison, brother,
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Okay you team maybe oh you no way, Duke exceptional
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: universe because a lot of people when you when you
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: see a powerhouse like a Duke, you tend to throw
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: him in a pot and forget the academics that comes
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: with the school. Like dude, tell us about the academic
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: standards that they have there and why I do get
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: such a strong academic school. Well, the academic standards was,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: like I said, one of the major reasons why I
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: chose that. Like my dad, as I said before, it
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: was a big educator, so he stressed education on us
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: all the time. With him being a teacher, we have
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: assignments and projects all year round, like whatever we had
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: going on for school, if we didn't have homework, best
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: believe that my dad came home all right, well we
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: got this project to do, or you gotta read for
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: an hour on this book right here. So it was
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: always him pushing us to do something. The further us
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: along with our education. But once we got to do
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: it was the same thing where you're in classes, you're
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: in study hall, you and all kinds of study groups
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: that kind of make yourself, you know, put yourself in
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: good position to actually be successful. So a lot of
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: the times were you think you may not know something,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: dude did a good job of having people accessible to
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: talk to to help you along the way. And also,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: I mean just just with the education alone, we know
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: that if you got a piece of paper from dude,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: it's gonna set you up for you know, whatever you
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: want to do later on. Now, when when when you
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: talk about yourself, sir, as a player, you know, when
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: do you start making a conscious decision that it's time
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: to move on when you're an athlete, you know, because
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: that's the hardest decision, you know, because of the fact
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: that it's something some ways you don't plan for an exit.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: How do you know what? And also the second question
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: is that when did the Sheldon when you foundation get started?
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: Was it do when you're playing days or after you
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: left the plan if you left the court, Well, it
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: was always in my mind, the sun Man's Foundation was
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: always my mind to do. I just didn't have time
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: to do it because once I got done planned, I
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: had my daughter, you know, the whole off season. So
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: with me playing, my daughter was getting older and was like, Daddy,
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: I come, You're always away. And that kind of got
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: to me because like she doesn't understand we're trying to
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: make a living for her. All she sees is Daddy
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: is on a road trip or Daddy's gone for whatever
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: amount of days. That's all she's seeing. So it kind
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: of got to me. That's why I kind of retired
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: a little bit earlier because I was like, nowhere, You're right,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: some things are more important and you are more important.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: So I wind up retiring early so I could spend
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: extra time with her, And as I said it before,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: I kind of, you know, got into a job where
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: I was still able to do basketball with the West
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: Coast Scouting and then be with her. But kind of
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: going back to the question about the Sheldon Winds Foundation,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: that was something I had already in mind. It was
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: just a matter of doing it. So once I retired,
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: I want to say I took about a year before
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: I started doing anything about it because that whole year
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: I took off it, which is me and my daughter,
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: and I was making sure it I was doing like
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: no ballet glasses and recitals and you know all those
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: other things that I didn't think about self doing. But
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: I'm a very front row you know, doing all that
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: stuff like you know, uh, just kind of beaming her
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: and making that for lost time and everything. But I
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: wanted to do that because one I grew up, my
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: mom was big into doing charity foundation whatever you wanna
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: call it. You know, I'm private type of word. Growing up.
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: When I was doing Rona McDonald house, I was doing
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: the homeless moment meals, those things were already still in me.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: It was just a matter of back, you know, a
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: matter of just getting me back into the swing of
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: things and getting the opportunity to actually fully invested myself
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: in doing that. And that's why I started showing Metals
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: Foundation about two years ago. Okay, now you said the
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: show the Whiz Foundations dedicated to empowering student athletes and
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: their family about delivering and supporting initiatives that promote emotional
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: and physical health. Let's stop right there. I got the
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: physical health. What is the emotional and physical health through
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: sports at ucation and community involvement? Talk to us about that. Well,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: as you see a lot of kids nowadays, they're dealing
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: with a lot more than I wouldn't say a lot more.
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: I think it's more addressed now than it was back
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: when I played. Because if you had any kind of
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: situation where off court problems or you know, uh, family
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: issues once you got into court. A lot of coaches
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: but how you do this? If you can't do it,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: I'll find somebody that doesn't. That that doesn't that would
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: do that now past for in all these years, like hey,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: I noticed that you're not being yourself, Come over and
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: talk to me. What's going on? You know, getting to
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: that point where you know where you more than just
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: you know in that way, you're a human being, You're
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: a person. So I want to make sure that I'm
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: time to what you're doing as well and talking to
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: you as a human being and not just a person
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: that comes and not just like a factor that comes
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: in and out. You know how it is with sports work,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: things changed so fluidly, like everybody's coming in and out.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: I want to make sure that you know that I'm
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: here to talk. This is beyond basketball. It's really important
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: because like I said, I can relate to a lot
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: of the things that you're talking about. Because my wife
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: was with Marke, you know, she she retired, she was
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: practicing uh otometris, and she retired so my daughter could
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: travel and make sure that a stranger wasn't tied to
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: my daughter and making sure my daughter was, you know,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: not being mistreated physically, because like you're saying, as an athlete,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: people will push you and guess what, and guess what
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: and and and push you beyond. Because I see so
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: many stories about tremendous athletes who failed because they were
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: put in the situation, they were uncomfortable, and they didn't
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: have mentors, or they refused to tell their parents what
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: was going on out of fear. What made you survive?
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Because I love the way you keep bringing up your
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: parents this whole conversation, doing this interview were doing, Shelton,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: you constantly mentioned your parents. That really is the key
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: to you and who you are today, right, your parents?
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: Of course, I mean, my parents is what made me
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: who I am today, Me and my younger brother who
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 1: I am today, who we are today. I said, like,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: if they wasn't able to steal those things into us,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: be where we are right now or what we're trying
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: to do what we're trying to accomplish right now. So
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: it's a big credit to what they did for us
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: growing up, and now it's more so like, hey, you
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: see a version of them in us as we are
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: doing things that we're trying to do later on that life.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: So I would say, like you know, me always mentioned
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: my parents as a reason for that because they played
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: and still are playing a big factor in my life.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: Now Here is the interesting thing about both our lives.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: We're black men, Sheldon and and I tell people, are
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: you know I gotta go back you know the George
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: Floyd And like I said, you and I both know that. Well,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: I can speak for myself. A cop stops me for anything,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: my flag score. I don't feel comfortable, especially at night.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: I don't really feel comfortable at all. And so it's
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: that part of the education process that you're talking about,
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: the community involvement process that you're talking about, trying to
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: develop relationships for young black man and female young ladies
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: can be able to get through life in sports is
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: just one of the tools that they can get them
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: out of the neighborhood. Have given them positive options because
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: the world sees us for who we are based on
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: the color of our skin. I don't care what anybody says.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: The color of our skin creates a different conversation. How
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: do you correlate that within your your foundation, the Shelton
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: with the Foundation family. It is a top beat we
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: constantly have to have for people that look like you're man, Man.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: We have to do every time, and it's it's sad
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: to say, but we have to continue to do that.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: A lot of this stuff, especially this year, has been
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: more and more recorded, seeing you know, going viral, whatever
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: that you're saying or whatever you think it is. It's
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: been going on for decades and decades, but yet we're
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: seeing more and more almost on a daily basis, and
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: a conversation that needs to continue to happen for people
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: that look like us has to be a forefront conversation
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: because if you're not blessed enough to come from like
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Rocking from a two parent home where I was able
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: to have these conversations daily about what to do in
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: these situations, a lot of these kids don't have that,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: so having somebody actually can talk them through these things
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: so they're not another statistic ended up like the people
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: you mentioned, which is sad and safe. But that's how
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: it is for us them nowadays. I know it's you know,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: because it's because we're having a real conversation now, you know,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying we didn't have one earlier, but
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: because of the fact that you and I both know
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, you're taller black man than me,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: you know, which means that I dude as successful as
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: I have been in my life. I've walked by some
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: white women clutch their bags. I saw them look at
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: me in a manner that I think that they feared
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: that I was gonna do something and I'm I'm in
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: tailor suits. I've walked into places and people have questioned,
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: would I would have looked as to why I'm in
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: that facility or why I'm in that restaurant, or why
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  Speaker 1: am I walking down that street? You know? And uh.
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  Speaker 1: But with that being said, you know, athletes has always
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  Speaker 1: proven to be a vehicle of change, a vehicle of opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: But like we also stated with Lebron, he's trying to
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  Speaker 1: peel back this. We are only dare to do a service,
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  Speaker 1: and that's a physical service, and I feel that's part
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: of what you're trying to do with the Sheldon Williams Foundation. Correct,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: You're more than delivering a physical service. You're you're you're
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  Speaker 1: you're developing people who are taxpayers, who are gonna get education,
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  Speaker 1: That seems to be the core of the Sheldon Williams Foundation.
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  Speaker 1: Am I correct? Yes, I mean you kind of putty
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  Speaker 1: much hit it on the head for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: these youth that I'm trying to help and get back
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  Speaker 1: and give opportunities to a lot of undeserving families and
• 1:29:21
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• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: situations that you are in right now. I mean you
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: kind of said that already. How you being in tailor
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  Speaker 1: suits me, I already have a kind of a two
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 1: strikes against me being tall and black. When I'm walking
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: down the street, you do see those things. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: a guy that I'm not necessarily over, you know, joyous,
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  Speaker 1: something different to her. But if I'm walking around, I'm
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  Speaker 1: very very stow it. I said. People will take that
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: as a sign of, you know, I don't know something
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  Speaker 1: with from pretty much day one, and seeing this, I
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  Speaker 1: even make make make sure that feel more comfortable, which
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  Speaker 1: is sad that I've actually do this absolutely, you know,
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  Speaker 1: change the way you walk, you have to change your
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  Speaker 1: tone to make people feel more comfortable when guess what,
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  Speaker 1: You're already comfortable. You know that, you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to just bring that out, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because on this show, I try to have honest conversations.
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  Speaker 1: You know. You know, you can do a lot of
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: interviews Sheldon and these and these interviews about the success
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: of your career, but we're talking about now and how
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: you have to change lives now. Like you said a
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: couple of years ago, you started to Sheldon Wives Foundation,
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  Speaker 1: It's an extension of who you are. Is this the
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: voice of who you are now? Because at one point
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: the voice of who you were was an athlete? Is
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: this your voice now? This is pretty this is pretty
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: much my voice. Part A, part B, you know, like
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: building up. As you keep growing, you keep evolving, and
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: that's that we as human beings continue to do so.
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: A lot of people, especially before social media, you only
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: see the weak. And then if you follow me on
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: social media, you'll see I'm talking about you know, my daughter, uh,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: social issues. You know, you'll see, like I said, Part one,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: Part two, Part three, You're seeing a lot of stuff
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: that's going on, and that's involving as I involved, as
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: in the person I'm gonna become in the future. But
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: it's always every changing, so you always gonna get something
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: different than you may see a month, you know, a
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: year ago, where the case may be, you will see
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: that I'm not gonna be just put into a category
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: of box. I'm always gonna try to help me and
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: try to extend myself and do more things where I'm
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: not gonna be just one category. Okay, let let's have
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 1: some fun here. You know you you you know you
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: former lottery pick, you former NBA player. You're watching games,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: you know you? You know we we see the big
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: three they didn't put together in Brooklyn. Can they win
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: it all? She? Can they win it all? Well? The thing?
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: The thing is, until last this past year, Lebron and
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: a d were the first team to win Route the
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: Bat when they got there for a long time. I
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: mean when Lebron and uh Lebron and U D Wade
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: and Chris Bosh when they got together, they didn't win
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: roup the bat. They then wait a couple of years
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: before they win their first one. I mean, you have
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: all these different big three as forming. The last time
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: I've seen a big three to form that won right
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: off the bat was back in Boston win KG Paul
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: and Real and first formed up. It's difficult to do,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: especially with guys that demand the ball as much as
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: they did. I know they had a hard lost last night.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: H I don't really pay attention to that loss, just because,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: like with me being that dude, a lot of people
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: circle our number are on the calendar to make sure
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: that no matter what we're doing, we're gonna get up
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: for this game. And that's how it is for broken
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: nets right now. A lot of people don't get up
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: for that game. So they lost to uh Washington Ridzards.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: But when I say one or two points and it
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: was a high scoring game, But until Washington Wizards can
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: continue to do and play like that, that game doesn't
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: really mean it doesn't hold much weight. Just because they lost.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: That's that's the nature of playing. What's sending in two
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: games this season. But when you when you talk about
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: playing the game and watching the career and then Sheldon,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 1: I look at that their honors or your jersey number
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 1: and seeing Dupe in the Hall of Fame? What what?
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: What stands out to be the most impressive thing that
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: is happening in your career that you would always go, man,
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: I can't believe that happened to me because you've got them,
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: you know, Gatorade Award to All American Honors, lottery pig
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: walked on the stage and recognized in front of thousand
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: people as one of the top athletes in the world.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: What what? What? What always brings a smile to your
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: face when you think about it from an athletic standpoint,
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna say being able to have an opportunity
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: to have my jersey hung in the raptors of Cameron
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  Speaker 1: Door Stadium, being one of thirteen guys, that's a that's
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: a bad raptor that Christians later Dave, that's a bad rafter.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: That baby gret bred Hill, come on that bat. No,
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: I know, Duke man of all the bread layers, that
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: playing due my name and my jersey will be forever
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: home in that raptors. So I wouldn't say that's probably
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: the greatest one is like being a kid out of Oklahoma.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't see myself one leaving the state of Oklahoma
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: because at that time I've only seen one player leave
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: to state of Oklahoma play that was Eaton Thomas who
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: left to go to Syracuse. Everybody staying in the state
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: of Oklahoma. So once I got a chance to actually
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: played for Duke University, yes, my careers are unfolding, and
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: that opportunity to become our player that was gonna become
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: and had the opportunity be actually have my jersey return,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 1: that was a true blessing because I didn't go in
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 1: to do think now, I wouldn't do trying to think, Hey,
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: I gotta prove a lot of people wrong from back
• 1:35:24
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• 1:35:28
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• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: what thank you for coming on money making conversation And
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• 1:35:46
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• 1:35:56
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• 1:36:04
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• 1:36:12
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• 1:36:15
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• 1:36:18
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• 1:36:20
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• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that I did enjoy the nterview. I appreciate
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: you have me on. It was great talk, great discussions. Also,
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: I mean for us to actually talk about not just basketball,
• 1:36:39
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• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: me to actually talk to you about it. So thank
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: you so much for having me on. I really appreciate
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• 1:36:53
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• 1:37:27
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  Speaker 1: in that middle um be because we know that the
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  Speaker 1: local affiliates, UM, they're not going to get the stories
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: that really address us UM and the national Uh, they're
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: not really going to have that microscope, so to speak,
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: to to break down certain stories that happen in certain neighborhoods,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: communities and what happened. So we exist kind of right
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 1: in that middle sphere. Uh. And as we said, let
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: me ask you now, William. Now the network has ten shows,
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 1: and now you have a show which I'm about to
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 1: ask you to start talking. It's tall say Less, so
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: you know which is you know, in the in the
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: world of what we're talking about, a lot of people
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: say sometimes you should speak up. So we have a
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: tyler call say Less. Well, what do you mean by that? Say?
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: Lust is actually probably the opposite because we saved the
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: most um. That is exactly. It's kind of like a uh,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: just a play on words. We we are very outspoken
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: on our show. If you've ever seen say Less for
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: anybody out there. We we cover pop culture, but we
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 1: also get into social issues and we do it unfiltered,
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: we do it with uh with with no no uh.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: There's there's nobody to tell us what we can and
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: can't set. And that's what you get with TCP and
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: you won't get on regular news, a regular TV like.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 1: We don't have nobody telling us we can't say this
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: and we can't say that. So we ok because nobody else. Okay,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: say less, I'm against, don't say let's I'm on the show. Okay,
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: let's talk about some of the topic, because you know,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: that's what money making conversation is. It's a conversation about
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: the community. It allows you to have a void like
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: I got. You know, I've got special guest Marquis over here,
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: you know, and I'm just stumbling at the opponent show.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: Hit me with a couple of topics so I can
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: join in, come on with you. Okay. Well, yesterday we
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: we didn't say less and I started talking about colorism. Okay.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: So because there was a conversation on one day to
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Miami where Jim Brown had checked you're not checked. But
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 1: he was speaking to Malcolm lex and he asked, why
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: was he so militant? Uh? What was he militant? Didn't
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: have to do. But because he was like skined Um,
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: and I think colorism, I know colorism still exists today.
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 1: Has colorism affected chewing anyway? Now? I would say that
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: because I'm a black man. Anytime I walk in the room,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: I've lost I've lost my competitive edge because you know
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: who I am. Okay, that's where white people don't have
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: to deal with colorism, you know, now have to deal
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: with being a different shade. I don't know if they
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: are tag you. I don't know if they Jewish, I
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: don't know if they Greek. You know, in some situations,
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: I might not even know that you are from a
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: Latin American country. So colorism just taking it out of
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: the African American community, which we know exists there as well.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: But from a global perspective, I I am at a
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: loss because you know my eights. I can't play a game.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: I can't play in the shadow of me being somebody
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: else are coming from a different culture because you know,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: or a fact, I'm either African or Black, and so
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 1: looking at who I am, you're probably gonna say he's
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: a black guy. So from a colorism has always played
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: a game in my life, but I haven't let it
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: stop me because I've realized that's the hand I've been
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: dealt with. And so with that being said, I always
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: tell people, we might tell people, you know, racism does exist,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 1: so it's your your purpose to get in the sightline
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: of the decision makers. I always tell people decisions are
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 1: always made when people are looking forward. People never look
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: back to make a decision. They never do. They never
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: turned around. Go oh, let me see who's behind me. Oh, Bill,
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: I want you to come back here. They make a
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: decision looking fraud left the right. And so that's how
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: I see what your brand TCP. You know, you guys
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: are in front of the decision makers. Now who are
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: the decision makers the viewers? And so so when you
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: ask me about my color, I always tell people, look,
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: I deal with it, but my job is to be
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: in front of the decision makers. And as long as
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: I can stand in front of the decision makers, I
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: have an edge and I'm not gonna let that beat
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: me down. And that's how I've been able to stay
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: ahead of the curve. I hear that, that alright, because
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: I come on you, I love well, you know, but
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: but that's why that's why when I when I reached
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: out to you guys because I saw an article on
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: you and I went, you know, we all got to
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: have a plane. You know, everybody has this theory because
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I grew up on BT like we all did.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: And BT started out with music videos and then they
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: started you know, my boy Ed Gordon was the was
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: the you know, it was the black voice of news.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, BT kind of like
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: went away. They stopped serving the public for for they
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: never would. They never did um do it yourself shows,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: They never did cooking shows. You see owners trying to
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 1: go in that direction. So black people have always been
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: uh cater to like, you know, we want action, we
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: want a comedy, and uh you want music in the
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: entertainment world, especially in the television of the streaming medium.
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: So that's why I'm happy to see what you guys
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: doing because when I see hip hop and politics, King's Court,
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: Boss Talk, sit Down with the Johnson's, you know, say
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: less opinionated facts. These are shows that I've been waiting
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: for because of streaming networks and and innovative gentlemen like
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: you allowed me and my family and my friends and
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: people of color to say, guess what we can participate
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: absolutely and and and that's really what what helped build CCP. UM.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: We we built this thing off of uh Facebook, off
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: of Facebook line. Uh So, so it was that that
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: audience participation. UM. It was it was active active TV
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: watching UM where where as a viewer, UM, you're not
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: only watching the content, but you can be a part
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: of the conversation. And and really helped control the flow
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: of the conversation to a degree. UM and UM, and
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 1: especially over the pandemic, UM when when everything shut down, Uh,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: that's when we really experienced a a explosion because everybody
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 1: was at home. UM, everybody was just scrolling through their phone. UM.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: So what we said, UM, we had to move on
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: from the studio that we were at UM at that
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: time because of COVID, and we said, all right, well look, UM,
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna do this from my garage. UM, and
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: we're just going to broadcast from my garage. And and
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 1: for about four months, UM in the pandemic, we broadcasted
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: from my garage. We did it it up um a
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: little bit. UM. But during that time, again, people were
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: just scrolling and scrolling and scrolling and just were being
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: and and really enjoying our content. Um and and then
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: with that the protests over the summer came UM and
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: and that's when we we witnessed another search because we
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: were we were right in the thick of things, UM,
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: getting getting the real stories, getting the real reactions of
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: the people. UM. We we went to places where other
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: other journalists UM may have been a bit fearful. UM.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: But because we shared the same personal story UM of
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 1: other people that were protesting, we had access to places
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: and people during that time that really have helped us
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 1: tell tell the story UM. And and that's where people
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 1: began to really see the the effect and the reason
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: why we exist cool we to UH. We were all down.
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: It was terrible, but it was a lot to talk about,
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: and that makes for great content. So we spoke about it.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: When you say we say terrible, you're talking about the
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: George Floyd or the loss of life from COVID because
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: it was just overtly affected. People of color were the
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: terrible part about the conversation. All of the above. COVID
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: hit and UM. We we never stopped working, so we
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: was they saw in real time. Our reaction was like
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: their reaction, like we we had no idea what we
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: were going through. Like it was. It was a scary time.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: And then during that time, the George Floyd thing happened,
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: and all over the country, including our city, there were
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 1: there were protests everywhere and we were on the front lines.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 1: We were at the protests, we were covering these things.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: And during these protests, a young man was killed by
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 1: police in our very city and we were first on
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 1: the scene to cover that. So like all of these things, like,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: we were there, we were, we were in the mix.
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: We were in d c for for for that march.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: They on our next march. We were there, like we
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 1: were everywhere during this year. UM, when it was just
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 1: rough for people, we were, we were, we were working
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: you know VICE UH programming and which I'm a big
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: fan of, and it it feels very much that you
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: guys are doing VICE, which is organic, authentic programming that
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: feels gritty and UH from from our on the original
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: point of view, am I closer saying the style of
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: program that you guys are trying to bring to the
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: to the people of color community. UM. I would say
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: that we're a mix between UM VICE and UM and
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: T Y T on the Young Turvis UM. But we're
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 1: we're just mellanated. You know, this is mellanated media, like
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: we like to say, you know, now we got this
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: tea programs. You know, I'm gonna take it this way.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take this away. You know, when I look
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: at Boss Talk and I look at King's Chord and
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 1: hip hop and politics, you know, that to me is
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not seeing that nowhere else. So that's important to
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 1: hear that because I can't hear that on the radio.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: I can't hear that on Serious x M, even though
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: they say that's what they do. You know, you know
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 1: they you know they they've they've had the same people
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: do the host the same shows for the last ten years.
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: And that's serious talk. And if you go to the
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: to the HBC used, they're over there inundated by jazz
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: stations and adult program It really is crazy to me
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: when I go to college stations and I go, who
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: are they trying to? The listeners fitting up? And so
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: that means they missed the whole voice of what I
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: think these schools are supposed to be at tuned into.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: And so so when I listened what you guys are doing,
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: it feels like I'm hitting the millennial generation. Weally much
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: that am I wrong in saying that? No, we were
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: we were blessed with the Internet and with the inn
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: we were able to cut out the the middleman and
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: give it to the people's straight, no filter, and and
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: that's what we try to do. It. We're gonna hit
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: her from all angles using the technology that we had
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: and the technology that we've had when we started to
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 1: the technology that we have now has allowed us to
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 1: be capable of doing things that we wouldn't even have
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: dreamed about in the beginning. And so so it's moving
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 1: at a rapid pace. And yeah, that's that's exactly what
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: we're gonna do, is take complete advantage of every media
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: platform that we can. Now here's a funny part. Now
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: makes you know you said you started on Facebook Live.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: So I my deal impression to y'all. Y'all were like
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, it was raw, it was unpredictable. Uh,
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: it was learning on the on the fly. People people
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: comment and you're dropping some information accurate, but it was
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 1: from the heart. Talk about those earliest early years of
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: lunch of the network. Then so um so we we
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: started um in in a community center, um In in
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: a um studio that wasn't used for ten years. UM,
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: so there was. There was just terrible, terrible, terrible reception.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 1: UM no ventilation. Uh. And and we had to hold
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: our phones so like we we would have to hold
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: the phone for an hour, you know, seventy five minutes,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: ninety minutes, however long the show was, and our arm
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: was a tripod and like, UM coming up that was
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: like a money joke, uh tc p t C p
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: uh they'll have you hold the phone. They'll have you
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: hold the phone for an hour, you know. So so
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 1: that was really like, UM, that was a humbling Uh.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: It was very very humbling. And then UM and then
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: at times when the community center was closed, you know,
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: we had to figure out ways to still put on
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: the show and everything because we wanted to be consistent
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: with this um our start is what really is our
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: strong foundation, because we really leaned on one another um
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: at the beginning. And and and now we can share
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: those stories now like oh we got a studio now.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: But at the beginning, UM, I remember when we were
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: running off of one LFE you know, UM, when we
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: were all sweating in the studio, those signs were very humbling.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: Don't they lock us out? The building and we can't
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: get in. But you and not your Roku, your Roku challenge.
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like it's like it's like, don't let
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: when I when I hear your story and I read
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: your story, it's really about overcoming the odds and like
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: I said, people kicking dirt in your face and people
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: caution you. People will be a more critical but not
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 1: seeing the vision or the passion of the hope or
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: the dreams. And now you're on the Rocal channel, which
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: is the ultimate platform for you know, for for streaming channels.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 1: It really is you know, you know roal coul is
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: like it's like you know you you you you get
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 1: it all. Like any small TV as Roku. That's the
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: beauty of when you're going from a technology standpoint, you're
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: not being left. If you buy a new TV, it's
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: a small TV, it will have Rocal channel and you
• 1:59:23
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• 1:59:25
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• 1:59:29
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• 1:59:35
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• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: I disbelieve and kept typing in TCP TCP that make
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: sure it worked. I think I watched it for seven
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 1: I'm biggest fair absolutely well. When you got your brother
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: Brandon Way, he does a pin Native Facts, I see.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: I love this a family operation because I see Marquis, Marquis,
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: you have a you have kids, you have a TCP
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 1: in the morning, you have that show. And then I
• 2:00:10
  Speaker 1: see uh Reverend Sherry Lufton UH does Reset Boss, Talking Boy,
• 2:00:16
  Speaker 1: Jessic Cannon, Kings Corp. By Andre Dixon, Hip Hop and
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: Politics by Nina falk Taekwon Ryo. I love that. What
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: is Tip Floorida? What is Tip Floor Um Tip Florida.
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: That is um. That is our sports and and pop
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: culture show. And it also takes a little a little
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 1: deeper look into sports, uh than our apiated facts show
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: um um afionated facts. That's more you know, it's in
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: its name opinions and Florida takes it takes a little
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: bit deeper looking at UH statistics and tying that into
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 1: UH pop culture and whatnot. Well, my friend, how can
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 1: I up you? I got you know, Twitter, I got
• 2:01:02
  Speaker 1: social media, I got one point six million brand influences.
• 2:01:07
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• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: because that's what this show is developed. You know, I'm
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 1: not charging anybody anything, but you know, God has allowed
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 1: me to live my dream. This is part of my dream,
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: you know, being able to talk to talented individuals like
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 1: you and I consider your visionaries and the visionaries. Uh,
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: I need partnerships. I'm a partner and then trying to
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: be able to market and be able to get the
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: word out. So if you send me banners I put
• 2:01:30
  Speaker 1: in my weekly newsletter, you sent me banners I posted
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: on my social media because I'm proud of you. And
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 1: I just want to thank you guys for being patient
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: with me because we rescheduled a couple of times because
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: in earnest I wanted to put my best foot forward
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 1: and presenting this interview to America. I really appreciate it. Hey,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: William Markets, thank you for coming on the show. Uh
• 2:01:54
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• 2:01:58
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• 2:02:00
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• 2:02:07
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• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: that is a big deal. It's not nothing that I'm
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: gonna shy away from and say that anybody can get
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: on it, and that's not true. You're creating a valid,
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 1: consumable program for people of color. Your tin shows are
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 1: only the beginning. Again, thank you for taking the time
• 2:02:22
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