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Horace Williams Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: My next guest. Uh career has been compromised primarily of comprise.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me, uh compromise, My next career has been comprised
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  Speaker 1: primarily playing key roles and startups, aiding the evolution to
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  Speaker 1: be to be social technology and creating user experiences. It
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  Speaker 1: was in his personal life that he developed pacific accountability
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  Speaker 1: and political awareness. Please welcome to money making Conversation. Horace
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  Speaker 1: Williams introduction. How you doing my friend here? Right? I
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  Speaker 1: can't complain and blessed, I know that's right. Come on night,
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  Speaker 1: we woke up and now I watch your people. Wasn't
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  Speaker 1: the alarm clock that woke you up either? Okay? Yeah, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about where where where are you? You calling
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  Speaker 1: in from the dead, actually calling in from getting ready
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  Speaker 1: to head head downtown Atlanta. But I dropped my mother,
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  Speaker 1: uh salan, so I think now, Uh so I've got
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  Speaker 1: some you know, some most adulting stuff that I've got.
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  Speaker 1: Had had the manage this morning. But you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: getting red head into the city and do some business.
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  Speaker 1: Because you're breaking a real bad horse. You're breaking up
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  Speaker 1: really bad. You're breaking up real Let me try this,
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  Speaker 1: let me see if is this better? Yeah? That's much better.
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  Speaker 1: So let me okay, okay, So I'm in I'm in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 1: uh and uh, you know, and like I would saying,
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  Speaker 1: I was just dropping off my my mama. Now men city,
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  Speaker 1: do some some business in this cool. Cool, Let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about your career, your life. You're an HBCU grad correct
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  Speaker 1: an absolutely, yea, I love it. I love it. Let's
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about that. Because a lot of my a
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  Speaker 1: lot of my stations that care of my show HBCU schools,
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  Speaker 1: and so whenever I identified guests who is an HBCU grad,
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  Speaker 1: I always like to bring up the significance of what
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  Speaker 1: HPCU A h an attending an HBCU school shaped your
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  Speaker 1: life academically and socially. Can you expound on that? It's
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  Speaker 1: because of the easiest question you can ask me. Um No,
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  Speaker 1: Carolina Anti in particular. Um I actually it was very
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  Speaker 1: interesting scenario. I got in there, um on acation because
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  Speaker 1: I'm still out high school in New York, and um
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  Speaker 1: I had teachers who were extremely proactive, uh in the
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  Speaker 1: classes of me, you know, coming into the school and
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  Speaker 1: realizing things like you know, they called me out, they said, hey, right,
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  Speaker 1: you answered all my questions and classes, and you get
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  Speaker 1: seventies on my tests going off, and they took the
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  Speaker 1: time out to study with me and worked with me.
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  Speaker 1: They were very intentional about my success, and I was
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  Speaker 1: not accustomed to that um and the high school. I
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  Speaker 1: went to New York too, and as a result, I
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  Speaker 1: waited in three years with honors after coming in on
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  Speaker 1: academic copation, And that was completely a five product of
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  Speaker 1: the faculty. They're seeing my potential and then on addition
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  Speaker 1: to that giving me opportunities, giving me, giving me opportunity, money,
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  Speaker 1: you know everything. So you know, I will and he
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  Speaker 1: who will hold a special places in my art forever.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm sure a lot of people feel the same
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  Speaker 1: about their h species. HPC user known for their their
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  Speaker 1: mighty bands and the athletics and athletic programs, and from
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  Speaker 1: the academic side that they're not getting credit for that.
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  Speaker 1: And when I think of programs like you know empowered,
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  Speaker 1: which is to me, is is a form of academic
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  Speaker 1: because it's based on information and when you provide people
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  Speaker 1: with information, you're educating them. And so tell us about
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  Speaker 1: what is empowered. Interestingly enough, like I said, it's just
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  Speaker 1: it's great that you framed it almost is an educational offering,
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  Speaker 1: because this is our segue into how I believe we
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  Speaker 1: can get people physically engaged. Empowers and applications free and
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  Speaker 1: itself e M P O w r D for anyone
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  Speaker 1: who wants to download it on Android or iOS. And
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  Speaker 1: what it does is it allows you to partake an
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  Speaker 1: engaging elected officials by having one access to them, but
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  Speaker 1: then to understanding what they do. Um what we try
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  Speaker 1: to do is focus on the advocacy component of civic engagement.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of time and effort is a
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  Speaker 1: society goes into the campaign, and I think that's great.
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  Speaker 1: I think we want to get the right people elected
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  Speaker 1: to represent us and invest in that. But what they
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  Speaker 1: do in office, the things that we complain about lobbyists doing,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, large companies and organizations controlling our government,
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  Speaker 1: that's the advocacy component. And we really need to play
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  Speaker 1: a stronger role of the society and engaging officials while
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  Speaker 1: they're in office in order to change our economic circumstances
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  Speaker 1: in many cases. So that's where power plays a role
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  Speaker 1: within the access, in education and in the facilitation of
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  Speaker 1: engagement between constituents and elected officials. Elected officials now let's
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  Speaker 1: go back a little bit here, because I got it.
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  Speaker 1: Because when you start talking about politics, you talk talking
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  Speaker 1: about social media, I gotta bring up the you know,
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  Speaker 1: this is a little bit more detailed, maybe and maybe
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  Speaker 1: I'm step too far in this conversation base about you know,
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  Speaker 1: the way the Russians played a role in in the
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  Speaker 1: political elections of sixteen. How they were able to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: get information on certain people, the way they thought, the
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  Speaker 1: way they walked, where they talked, where they would just
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  Speaker 1: swayed there through through campaign campaign information, you know, by saying,
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  Speaker 1: if this person walks and talks this way, where we
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  Speaker 1: keep walking and talking this way, we can lead them
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  Speaker 1: down this path. What is different from what you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to do. Well, So here's an interesting thing when we
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  Speaker 1: talk about the Russian peace right. We're talking about and
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  Speaker 1: I come from a like a social media technology listening background,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about. What we're talking about is is that
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  Speaker 1: they basically leverage the fault of digital advertising and use
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  Speaker 1: it against us to create these little small bubbles in
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  Speaker 1: the social social ecosystem where everything someone believes is validated
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  Speaker 1: by something that is essentially invalid. And what they've done
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  Speaker 1: is is that you know, and they use that two
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  Speaker 1: you know one exposed. You know, you know, our societies,
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  Speaker 1: you know, are are deeper inner troubles. But you know
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  Speaker 1: what happened there is is that they we're trying to
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  Speaker 1: change how people think by you know, using the same
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  Speaker 1: models that are used by you know, Nike to help
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  Speaker 1: people by parent sneakers. Right like, they're not showing you
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of sneakers and saying choose one. They're learning
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  Speaker 1: about you and trying to put the sneakers in front
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  Speaker 1: of you that they believe you're actually going to purchase.
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  Speaker 1: And that is not the way to handle politics. So
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  Speaker 1: when you look at Empowered, what we try to do
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  Speaker 1: is we try to disseminate objective information of course the
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  Speaker 1: board relative to your representation, right like, we're not telling
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  Speaker 1: you to go one way or another. We're saying, what
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  Speaker 1: are the issues that you're having. We call those clauses,
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  Speaker 1: and then we use those to connect you to organizations
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  Speaker 1: that you can align with for advocacy purposes, or if
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  Speaker 1: you have a little bit more experience, you can directly
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  Speaker 1: engage elected officials on your own to the application. You know,
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  Speaker 1: this is about maintaining your own quality of life. It's
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  Speaker 1: not a social network. It's not if you go to
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  Speaker 1: the app, you're not talking to a bunch of other
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  Speaker 1: people and having a bunch of you know, communication sessions
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  Speaker 1: around things that you know are you know that you
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  Speaker 1: believe are important to you. This is an action driven
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  Speaker 1: application and it is focused on an objective, non party bias,
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  Speaker 1: ability to create relationships with elected officials and organizations that
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  Speaker 1: allow you to you know, have the quality of life
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  Speaker 1: you deserve and make that accessible to everybody. So we
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  Speaker 1: are not trying to steer people one way or another.
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  Speaker 1: We're trying to facilitate people's ability to be effectively engaged.
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  Speaker 1: I'll see what you're saying. You're saying that that campaign
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  Speaker 1: was specifically driven the CREC grap or a single mind
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  Speaker 1: and then mark that mind and mind with that single
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  Speaker 1: thought down this lane. And you're saying, we're creating giving
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  Speaker 1: you information about the options, the overall portal of information
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  Speaker 1: you you with with empowered. That's an app that that's free,
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  Speaker 1: that you can allow and when you go on that,
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  Speaker 1: how does they walk us through the steps of how
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  Speaker 1: you use it? How what information do you because do
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  Speaker 1: you have to do you have to supply information into Empowered. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: so what we call it especifically, what we we consider
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  Speaker 1: internally a a data exchange. Right So, Empowered manages UH
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  Speaker 1: data for about thirty thousand elected official offices. And what
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  Speaker 1: we do is that we tie those elected leader roles
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  Speaker 1: to your jurisdiction boundaries. And then we also have partnerships
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  Speaker 1: with advocacy groups and organizations, and we tie those groups
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  Speaker 1: to the causes that you care about in our application.
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  Speaker 1: So when you're giving us information about like your location
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  Speaker 1: or causes you care about and other demographic pieces, we're
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  Speaker 1: using that to align you with both your elected representation
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  Speaker 1: relative to you know, your location in your region, from
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  Speaker 1: your local city councils in the President of the United States,
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  Speaker 1: and we're also using it to align you with news
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  Speaker 1: and information and organizations that are directly tied to the
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  Speaker 1: things that you care about in your life. Right So,
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  Speaker 1: and so that is how you know, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we function in terms of like a use case for instance, Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, right now, we've just partnered with Partnership for
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  Speaker 1: Southern Equity, which is an organization here in Atlanta that's
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  Speaker 1: getting ready to you know, push the fight against Georgia
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  Speaker 1: powers increasing energy prices. So if you follow you know
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  Speaker 1: public you know partnership of Southern Equity in our app
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  Speaker 1: or or any of the causes that are tied to
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  Speaker 1: their mission, like they will work with you in our
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  Speaker 1: application to help lobby your public service commissioners, the local
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  Speaker 1: elected officials they're in Georgia UM to help convince them
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  Speaker 1: that they should fight against Georgia power to lower the
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  Speaker 1: energy prices. You know, these are things that people don't
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  Speaker 1: think about when they think about political engagement in many times.
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  Speaker 1: But our political system is is a real democratic system,
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  Speaker 1: and it is one that is influenced either directly or
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  Speaker 1: indirectly by your participation. So we try to enable that
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  Speaker 1: participation through our partners, through our user basin, through our data. Really,
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  Speaker 1: it's interesting here you talk about the whole set up
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  Speaker 1: with the Really you're given a voice because we have lobbyists,
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  Speaker 1: and lobbyists are powerful, and you're letting people know with
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  Speaker 1: social media you can now compete with the lobbies who
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  Speaker 1: sit in the hallways, who have offices in the in
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  Speaker 1: the local every capital, in every state, they have lobbyists
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  Speaker 1: in d C. And so you're saying through your software
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  Speaker 1: that just connected to thirty thousand you said thirty, correct,
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  Speaker 1: and now gives you Yeah, it now gives you a
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  Speaker 1: voice to be able to communicate through social media that's
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  Speaker 1: never been that has not been there before. That's pretty
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  Speaker 1: powerful or is that's really powerful? Man? You know, you
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  Speaker 1: you start to impress me, sir, really really serio. You know.
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  Speaker 1: But you know the thing about it because of the
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  Speaker 1: fact that really, you know, because it's so many ways
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  Speaker 1: social media can bring value to the individual. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's made entrepreneurs wealthy through social media, is made
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  Speaker 1: athletes and stars have a voice outside of outside of
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  Speaker 1: the craft. And then now you're saying there's an individual,
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  Speaker 1: you know, if you're having problems with the with the
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  Speaker 1: local local power company, wanted to raise your fees, then
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  Speaker 1: you can do it through social media and you can
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  Speaker 1: go through this app and we can create momentum. Because
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  Speaker 1: ever tell you something. It used to be used to
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  Speaker 1: write a letter to uh the general mills or forward
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  Speaker 1: and complaint a letter they said one letter used to
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  Speaker 1: be like ten thousand people. Now social media is worse
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  Speaker 1: because now it's it's in the public's view and comments
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  Speaker 1: get shared and they could create a mask a lot
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  Speaker 1: of momentum so when we come back, I want to
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  Speaker 1: continue that conversation. Orge Williams, Man, You're fantastic. I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: we've got the phone situation worked out. We were back
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  Speaker 1: with more of our conversation with man. Orge. We're creative,
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  Speaker 1: the app empowered. Yes, it's Rushan McDonald. You're listening to
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  Speaker 1: money making conversation my guests has been uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: primarily key roles and startups and aideen and the evolution
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  Speaker 1: of B two be technology and creating user experiences. Let
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  Speaker 1: mention just before moving to further what is what exactly
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  Speaker 1: is B to be social technology? What exactly is that?
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  Speaker 1: A great question. So I have actually spent a lot
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  Speaker 1: of my career working with some awesome people, particularly in
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  Speaker 1: leadership roles around the way that enterprise corporations and you know,
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  Speaker 1: this kind of in a way it talks about the
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  Speaker 1: problem that we ran into before with the Russians and
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  Speaker 1: everything else, but you know, hopefully on more of the
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  Speaker 1: marketers side. But I've worked in the space that has
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  Speaker 1: helped large corporations effectively engaged uh, the general populist m
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  Speaker 1: through social media, right, And I've worked in that space
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  Speaker 1: sensors in its sensus inception, so back when they were
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  Speaker 1: just calling it user generated content essentially, and even prior
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  Speaker 1: to Facebook really playing a major role. But I've worked
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  Speaker 1: in it all the way up until you know, I
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  Speaker 1: was you know, part of the first comprehensive uh, you
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  Speaker 1: know offering for Oracle that you know allowed you know,
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  Speaker 1: large corporations to monitor, listen, and engage people through social
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  Speaker 1: networks through third party software, so you know, the ability
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  Speaker 1: for people to these companies to create profiles around like
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  Speaker 1: who to target, what adds to and like you know
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  Speaker 1: and identify people who are likely to complain or people
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  Speaker 1: who are influential that they could serve it first, and
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  Speaker 1: things along those lines. That technology. I spent a lot
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  Speaker 1: of time building like the actual experience that made that
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  Speaker 1: technology usable for our customers in those spaces. And I
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  Speaker 1: did that for man close to ten years. Wow. Now,
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  Speaker 1: when you talk about companies are red near described background
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  Speaker 1: working in the Stilicon Valid Oracle and Spirit so yes,
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  Speaker 1: um so, So for some clarity there, I actually did
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  Speaker 1: not work in Silicon Valley. I managed some people that
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  Speaker 1: worked out there, but Oracle itself, as they so absolutely
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  Speaker 1: well not Actually it's not actually Oracles based in Record
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  Speaker 1: shorts to even be a little bit more specific the
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  Speaker 1: um but I am um, but our office was in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 1: which is which is great. Um and uh you know
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  Speaker 1: and and yes, so there was that was I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to make that that clarification there that you know,
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  Speaker 1: I actually I managed teams that were that tad personnel
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  Speaker 1: out of Redwood Shores, Colorado and um Atlanta, Georgia. Well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm very familiar with Zoom, very familiar with Sky.
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  Speaker 1: That's how people are doing business nowadays. So I was
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  Speaker 1: not taking it back, you know, I do or just
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  Speaker 1: finished this big contract with the Air National Guard, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: I was overseeing fifty states, the marketing and branding and
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  Speaker 1: uh Guan, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and so I know that I wasn't in fifty states,
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  Speaker 1: so but but but but I was zooming everywhere though,
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  Speaker 1: and so so you don't have to correct me on
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  Speaker 1: that end. This is a show that's pretty advance answering
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  Speaker 1: this thought process. I just wanted to just you know,
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  Speaker 1: Oracle is not a name that in the in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of an interview, we we gotta say that because
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  Speaker 1: that's important because the oracles, like that that's right up
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  Speaker 1: there with the Apples, right up to the Microsoft with
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  Speaker 1: the intails. You know, there's certain brands that drive this
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  Speaker 1: country besides Google, you know, and and and the Oracle
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  Speaker 1: is one of those brands that it's just unbelievably uh
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  Speaker 1: change the way we live our lives from day to day.
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  Speaker 1: And somewhere I think I'm thoroughly believing that they are
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  Speaker 1: want to go to the moon again so they can
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  Speaker 1: they can put great cloud space. They're gonna use the
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  Speaker 1: Moon to put cloud space. That's that's what they want
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  Speaker 1: to do. All right. I don't know where all that
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  Speaker 1: computer stories is gonna go because they're keeping everything. Can
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  Speaker 1: you answer that question for me, Horace Williams? Where's all this?
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  Speaker 1: What's all this cloud space going? Questions? Where is all
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  Speaker 1: this cloud space? All this every photo you taking, every
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  Speaker 1: phone number you nobody remembers the people's phone number because
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  Speaker 1: it's what's so many phone numbers, but it's being stolen.
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  Speaker 1: Where is this stuff going, man? Man? And where is it?
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  Speaker 1: I think that's why they're going to the moon. They
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  Speaker 1: want to go back to the moon so they can
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  Speaker 1: dump everything on the moon as a storage place. So
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  Speaker 1: it's interestingly enough. It's just you know, it's funny because
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  Speaker 1: it is. It is a real estate issue, right, like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, these are servers that everything is being stored on.
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  Speaker 1: It's just you know cloud. You know, there's there's what
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  Speaker 1: you consider you be, your traditional on site posting and
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  Speaker 1: then your office site whole thing, which is you know
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  Speaker 1: what we've branded into the cloud, and you know, and
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  Speaker 1: and and it's just you know, it's kind of like, uh,
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  Speaker 1: what do you call It's kind of like um graveyards,
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  Speaker 1: right like whenever run out of people dying, right, Um,
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  Speaker 1: but just one story space. So I don't know, man,
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  Speaker 1: I guess they're gonna have to throw some moon real
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  Speaker 1: estate for all these servers. Being real with y'all, just
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  Speaker 1: let y'all know good, I've been thinking about stuff like that,
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  Speaker 1: but going okay, because I remember, like like like five
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  Speaker 1: years ago, I was resistant and and and and getting
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  Speaker 1: the cloud and a little five dollars or ten dollars
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  Speaker 1: for the extra story because they always get you with
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  Speaker 1: you want a free gigabyte. You know, we all know
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  Speaker 1: that's going like that, you know. And then so so
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  Speaker 1: now I got unlimited, so any time I take I
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  Speaker 1: got pictures. I'm looking at my got pictures. I was
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  Speaker 1: showing my staff just all the way back to twelve
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  Speaker 1: on my phone. You know, I'm going like, Okay, they're
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  Speaker 1: not on my phone, They're on They're on the cloud
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  Speaker 1: server somewhere. And I take pictures everything because I'm I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm a foodie and so I take pictures of I
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  Speaker 1: was a site called rushawn Eats, So I always taken
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  Speaker 1: pictures of food that's on my service and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So so when you when you start talking about you know,
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  Speaker 1: the power and empowered, you're just an information guy man.
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  Speaker 1: And and I just want to say this because they're
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  Speaker 1: not saying I'm in an ending this interview. But that's
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  Speaker 1: why I would tell people go to college. Because you're
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  Speaker 1: going to college and the right people met you. I
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  Speaker 1: saw the gifts in you and and shaped you to
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  Speaker 1: be the person to create this. But before that, but
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  Speaker 1: before that, your father played a significant role in your
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  Speaker 1: Like talk to us a little bit about him. So,
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  Speaker 1: my father, Harace Williams sr Um, was a you know,
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  Speaker 1: and like most kids, you know, like your parents do
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  Speaker 1: stuff and they try to get you into it, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're a little resistance. And my father is
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  Speaker 1: a lot older than me. He's about forty years older
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  Speaker 1: than me. UM. I mean, God rest his soul. He
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  Speaker 1: passed inte but he was UH. In New York City,
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  Speaker 1: particularly in Brooklyn, he played a large role in the
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  Speaker 1: professional careers of many of today's UM elected officials that
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  Speaker 1: are in that city. And uh he was a lobbyist.
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  Speaker 1: UM he represented public affairs for Pratt Institute in Brooklyn.
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  Speaker 1: UM he you know, he was just he just spent
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  Speaker 1: a lot of time in that space because you know,
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  Speaker 1: he started as an advocate, you know, as an activist.
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  Speaker 1: You know, UM he ran for office once but decided
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  Speaker 1: to stay out of focus more on influence from from
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  Speaker 1: the outside. But that is um, you know, that role
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  Speaker 1: that he played through that time. You know, at the
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  Speaker 1: moment that when I was a kid, I just kind
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  Speaker 1: of was distant from it. I didn't think about it much.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, genetics are powerful and I can see
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  Speaker 1: over time my evolution into that same way of thinking.
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  Speaker 1: It's like taking the bluefield, right, or when you watch
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  Speaker 1: the matrix, because like once you get into it, like
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  Speaker 1: you can't go back to living life the same way.
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  Speaker 1: And you can understand why once people jump into this space,
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  Speaker 1: like my father did they spend the rest of their
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  Speaker 1: lives in it, because, you know, because you can't live
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  Speaker 1: pretending like you don't know how all this stuff works.
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  Speaker 1: And and I think that you know, once you've learned
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  Speaker 1: it and you've immersed yourself into it like I have
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  Speaker 1: and like my team has and everyone else. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you're spent a lot of time telling everybody, hey, listen,
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  Speaker 1: take the blue field. Take you got to like it's
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  Speaker 1: the the way you're gonna really get what you want
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  Speaker 1: out of this life and have a kind of confidence
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  Speaker 1: you want in this life. You know, it's by knowing
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  Speaker 1: you know, and understanding what governs you and how it works.
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  Speaker 1: Otherwise you're always going to be susceptible to the decisions
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  Speaker 1: of other people. And that is where you know, he
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  Speaker 1: made to play the major influence in me, because I
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  Speaker 1: can look back at those times now and better understand
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  Speaker 1: what he did and why he did it in the
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  Speaker 1: role that I'm in today, and you're doing it today
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  Speaker 1: with technology or through technology. Yeah, that's it. That's that's
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  Speaker 1: a that's a really cool story when you think about it, man,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because like I said, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like you said that were in the path that you saw.
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  Speaker 1: He saw Your dad saw it, didn't you he saw
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  Speaker 1: you know, he saw it. And then you go, ah,
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  Speaker 1: get off and get off and get off, get off,
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  Speaker 1: to get off, get off? Can you go to college?
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  Speaker 1: And they saw those these structors saw it. He said,
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  Speaker 1: look at we're gonna help you out because you you stupid.
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  Speaker 1: We're stupid because I was that way. I was stupid.
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  Speaker 1: You know, teachers shape me always. They I call them bumps,
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  Speaker 1: you know when they when it's you're going right there,
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  Speaker 1: they tap you on the side of the head, on
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  Speaker 1: the shoulder. You don't need to be over there. They
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  Speaker 1: ain't what you do. What you do, you're special. You
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna do something different in life. And I ran
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  Speaker 1: from that a lot horse I ran from that, and
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't really get what they meant by that
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  Speaker 1: when it was when it when it comes to you
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  Speaker 1: so much, that's a lot of pressure. I guess people
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  Speaker 1: don't understand that. Oh it's a as a child or
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  Speaker 1: a young person. Oh, you just want to do is
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  Speaker 1: to be regular, man, You really do all you want
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  Speaker 1: to just be regular. If you're not that, if you're
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  Speaker 1: not an athlete, then then you have a right to
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  Speaker 1: be special because you could dunk, catch a run to
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  Speaker 1: a run a hundred yards and with a football or
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  Speaker 1: a block of shot goes in. But we just if
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  Speaker 1: you're just sitting in the stands man, and and people
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  Speaker 1: just see that, Gareth, that're smart, then people look at
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  Speaker 1: you differently and and and that's a lot of pressure.
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  Speaker 1: So I understand what you would we're going. But the
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  Speaker 1: beauty of it is that they would they refused to
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  Speaker 1: allow you to succumb to that as being a bad thought.
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  Speaker 1: And and this is what empowered is for today. Tell
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  Speaker 1: um A man agree, I'm glad we got the phone
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  Speaker 1: situation straight because them what your community to communicating on
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  Speaker 1: this in his interview is very relatable. Well, I appreciate it, man,
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  Speaker 1: and thank you for your patients. Uh you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you have some people that don't make it through the
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  Speaker 1: phone thing, so I'm happy you work to do with me.
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  Speaker 1: us an inquiry through the application. But it's publicly available
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  Speaker 1: for all We work with organizations and polishes and advocated
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  Speaker 1: groups of all sizes. And you know, the app is
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  Speaker 1: should be awesome. Uh, it's on the social media. It's
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  Speaker 1: the same spelling for social media as well. Yes, And
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  Speaker 1: on social media you can find this at um get
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  Speaker 1: empowered with g et empowered spelt you know, the same
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  Speaker 1: way E m p O w r d UM. On
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  Speaker 1: Look up there you can find us and and uh
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  Speaker 1: you'll be able to follow us there. And we're pretty active.
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  Speaker 1: We post a lot of advocacy driven information and news
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  Speaker 1: and uh and trying to focus on local engagement well
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  Speaker 1: because we believe that's a really important thing. I appreciate you,
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  Speaker 1: I really do, and I appreciate you coming on my show,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: and that's why I created this show so lanes of
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  Speaker 1: information like this can be made public because there's a
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: lot of people don't understand why this should be made public.
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  Speaker 1: Because you spread the words stronger, more people know, more
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  Speaker 1: people know, more people are educated. And that's why I
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  Speaker 1: considered an UH an app for academia. An education meets
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  Speaker 1: in a political arena where you can empower people to
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  Speaker 1: be to control their lives and especially in the world
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  Speaker 1: of social media. Thank you Harsh Williams for calling money
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  Speaker 1: making conversations