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Kirk Franklin talks working with Mariah Carey & Khalid on "Fall In Love At Christmas," New Lifetime Christmas movie "A Gospel Christmas and more! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: pulling them with is Kurt Franklin. He's a sixteen Grammy
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  Speaker 1: Award winning gospel songwriter, arranging producer. We're both Texas boys.
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  Speaker 1: Kirk and I go all the way back to Why
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  Speaker 1: we Sing? Give me why We Sing? For the thirty
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  Speaker 1: years and continuous hits and tremendous success bridging hip hop,
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  Speaker 1: pop and gospel together. Now he is a big time
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  Speaker 1: television and film producer, but music is his first love.
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  Speaker 1: Started with fall in Love with christ Wood, Kirk, Mariah Carey,
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  Speaker 1: Mariah Kerry and uh Collid, a new holiday event featuring
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  Speaker 1: the first and only exclusive performance of fall in Love
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  Speaker 1: and Chris Wood, Kurt, Rian and Collid with premiere on
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  Speaker 1: Apple TV Plus in December. BT Plus series It's Given
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  Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin a serious order for Kingdom Business, a music
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  Speaker 1: driven drama executive produced by my boy de von Franklin.
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  Speaker 1: You know him, Miracles from Heaven, Holly Carter, My Girl
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  Speaker 1: Way Back two thousands, The Clark Sisters that said all
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  Speaker 1: kind of viewing Records on Lifetime, the First Ladiest of
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  Speaker 1: Gospel and Michael Van Dyke. The eight episode series explores
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  Speaker 1: the gospel music in the three through the lens of family,
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  Speaker 1: faith and love and the redemptive power of music. And Finally,
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  Speaker 1: Kurt Franklin executive duced a new holiday movie. I just
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  Speaker 1: saw the day they gave me an earlier look at
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  Speaker 1: it outstanding Kurt Franklin's a Gospel Christmas with Premiere, which
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  Speaker 1: premieres on December fourth on Lifetime. The Lifetime movie stars
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  Speaker 1: Dmitria McKinney. You've heard on our show many times, Regina Bell,
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  Speaker 1: and my boy I met him when he was a teenager.
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  Speaker 1: Chas Lamar Shephard, Please work with the money. Mad conversation.
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  Speaker 1: I got a lot to say because he's doing a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Kurt Franklin, Kurt, Kurt, Kurt Brother, Kurt Man, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: say your name like that, man, because you know when
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  Speaker 1: you go to the mountaintop and you want to hear
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  Speaker 1: people here good news. You just repeated, you repeated, repeated,
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  Speaker 1: Kurt Franklin. Man, just transition, brother, Let's let's let's just
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  Speaker 1: talk with the fall in love. It was released November
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  Speaker 1: five with Mariah you Khalid and one point five million
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  Speaker 1: views so far and climbing. Talk about putting that together,
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  Speaker 1: talk about the importance of that particular, you know, because
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  Speaker 1: MRA has the all time Christmas song record and now
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  Speaker 1: you're doing a Christmas song with us, so you you're
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  Speaker 1: working with a Christmas legend. Talk about that. Yeah, yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: I was. First of all, it's great seeing you. It's
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  Speaker 1: great seeing my brother who's been so supported my entire career,
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  Speaker 1: that's been there from day one, and I'm just very
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  Speaker 1: honored to be able to be a part of your continuing,
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  Speaker 1: uh just career and legacy and so uh, it's always
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  Speaker 1: beautiful to connect with a brother who you've looked up
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  Speaker 1: to for so long. Um. Yeah, the Mariah Carey project came. Um,
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  Speaker 1: she invited me to write along with her and her
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  Speaker 1: writing partner, and so I went to her home and
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  Speaker 1: she showed me where they were with the song and
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  Speaker 1: it felt good, and they just kind of wanted to
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  Speaker 1: have some different moments in the song, and so I
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  Speaker 1: said that at the piano kind of just through some
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  Speaker 1: ideas and where we could go with the song, how
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  Speaker 1: we could, you know, maybe even do some different things
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  Speaker 1: in the bridge, and then I had a whole idea
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  Speaker 1: for a vamp kind of like a tape cattle. I
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  Speaker 1: could take him to church vamp, you know. And so um,
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  Speaker 1: I sat down. It's kind of through some ideas, and
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  Speaker 1: so we co wrote the record together and and I
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  Speaker 1: and I brought it back to Dallas, and I put
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  Speaker 1: my band on it, put my singers on it, kinda
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  Speaker 1: did my thing, and uh, I mean, she really loved it.
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  Speaker 1: And it's really humbling for her to be able to
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  Speaker 1: really connect with it like that. And um yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: and I then uh colead jumped on it and they
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  Speaker 1: were super dope. He's a great young talent and so
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  Speaker 1: and so yeah, it's a great opportunity to just to
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  Speaker 1: continue to try to have the conversation about you know, man,
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  Speaker 1: how gospel music in the community did not come from
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  Speaker 1: uh and just just the gravity and just the breath
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  Speaker 1: of the people in it, and and and how viable
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  Speaker 1: gospel music style and the message in just the community
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  Speaker 1: is when it comes to any area of music, it
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  Speaker 1: could be pop music, it could be hip, public can
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  Speaker 1: be country. Wherever it is, this music can live there.
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  Speaker 1: Because you're talking about a part of America. And so
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  Speaker 1: you know to not own is it the good News
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  Speaker 1: of Jesus christis also music that is the foundation of
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  Speaker 1: American music, is the foundation of black experience here and
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  Speaker 1: uh in Western civilization. And so because of that, you
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  Speaker 1: could always see it's it's it's it's influence and you
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  Speaker 1: can always see uh it's impact even now. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: every pop artist, every hip hop artist, their band are
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of church musicians. I mean, I was at
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  Speaker 1: a Snoop's mother's funeral this past week. Snoop asked me
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  Speaker 1: to do the music for his mother's funeral, and the
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  Speaker 1: whole and his whole band there's church guys. That's why
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  Speaker 1: I would able to just and I didn't have one rehearsal.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have one rehearsal. I just jumped on the
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  Speaker 1: piano with the singers and we were able to go
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  Speaker 1: from some about the name Jesus to to to my
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  Speaker 1: life is in your hands, because I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we all speak that same language. And so it was
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  Speaker 1: really exciting to bring that six uh music and to
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  Speaker 1: the Maraack harry a song. And it's very humbling to
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  Speaker 1: bring that that essence of culture music to even now
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  Speaker 1: scripted programming and to visual to visual platforms like uh,
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  Speaker 1: Kirk Franklin's and Gospel Christmas. You got too much. You're
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  Speaker 1: gonna slide through these different things. I gotta stop on
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  Speaker 1: great moments. Now you're out there with you. Something I had,
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  Speaker 1: I had mariad carry coming down the Dallas and mix
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  Speaker 1: it up with the band, and I was a Snoop
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  Speaker 1: Dogg and played with the band and then you know
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  Speaker 1: something about the name of Jesus who he knows. That's
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  Speaker 1: my all time favorite Kirk Franklin song right there. He's
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  Speaker 1: just gonna slide past that, you know, unfortunately delivered as
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  Speaker 1: a sad moment for Snoop Dogg. But that's an inspirational song.
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  Speaker 1: And let you know, there is, uh, there is, there's
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  Speaker 1: guidance for us in our sad moments, and that type
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  Speaker 1: of music that you produced over years creates that. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at this video, man. First of all, I'm
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  Speaker 1: kind of mad because Maria carry don't age. She don't age. Man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at going, Okay, really, Maria, really you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: do it like this? And then then but then I'm enjoying.
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  Speaker 1: I'm enjoying the video, right, Kurt. And then all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden and then all a sudden, Kirk, you you
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  Speaker 1: kirtified it. You know what I'm saying. You know you're doing. Man,
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  Speaker 1: come on there with that Kurt tone. I love it man, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: Hey man, because you have a style, man, you have
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  Speaker 1: a presence. Man, you have a and that that that brand.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that Kurt Franklin brand. Because like I said,
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  Speaker 1: it's really when I set up and think about we
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  Speaker 1: have been on this journey together. Man. You know you
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  Speaker 1: know b T celebrations of gospel. Man, we both Texas boys,
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  Speaker 1: you know, all journey, different TV shows that you did
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  Speaker 1: or when I was doing Sister Sister, all these different things,
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  Speaker 1: movie ideas. We kicked back and forth. But what is
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  Speaker 1: the Kurt Franklin brand Man that you that you built man,
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  Speaker 1: because you built through your your honesty, go through your
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  Speaker 1: you know you performance. You was injured and you you
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  Speaker 1: cover from that. So that's a journey in life and
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  Speaker 1: you've been out there. But this brand is just growing.
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  Speaker 1: That's school. It's going to allow us to talk about
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  Speaker 1: these television productions that are coming up. Talk about that
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  Speaker 1: kurk Franklin brain. Oh well, you know this is going
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  Speaker 1: to probably the part of the interview that we're going
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  Speaker 1: to suck at the most, because I mean, you know
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  Speaker 1: me better than anyone you know in this space, and
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  Speaker 1: I am unapologetic in my faith. I'm unapologetic in my
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  Speaker 1: Christian faith and I and I try to very hard
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  Speaker 1: to live it more than I preach. It is because
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  Speaker 1: I think people would rather see a sermon rather than
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  Speaker 1: here sermon any day. And so I really believe, well
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  Speaker 1: unapologetic lead that everything that I'm blessed to do, it's
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  Speaker 1: all by the grace and kindness of the Lord. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not that smart, I'm not that genius to have
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  Speaker 1: this strategy. And there may be other people that are
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  Speaker 1: like that, but not me. I mean I am, I
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  Speaker 1: am totally Whatever whatever I've been blessed to do or
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  Speaker 1: whatever I desire to do is it's all because of
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  Speaker 1: the Lord's kindness. It's it's it's not I don't have
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  Speaker 1: a rim and you know I don't. I don't have
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  Speaker 1: ingredients of songwriting. These are songs that God loans me.
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  Speaker 1: These are these are these are moments I try to
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  Speaker 1: be a good steward over um. One of my manchuris
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  Speaker 1: in life that one of my mentors. Dr Tony Evans
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  Speaker 1: taught me is I'm a manager of everything, but I'm
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  Speaker 1: an owner of nothing. That everything, that everything belongs to God.
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  Speaker 1: And so I'm just a steward. I'm just a manager
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  Speaker 1: of moments and so um, you know, and and and
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  Speaker 1: I align with that ideal, those those those those constructs
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  Speaker 1: of what I subscribe to. And it's it's by the
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  Speaker 1: grace and kindness of Christ. And so you know, I
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  Speaker 1: care when he was talking because Dr Tony Evans, he
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  Speaker 1: was on my show last week and the Priscilla Shire
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  Speaker 1: and her son and and then you know, it's just
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  Speaker 1: watching my show Shift. You know, it's about money making conversations,
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  Speaker 1: but it's about life. It's about journeys and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: When I look at what you're doing. Um, the movie
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  Speaker 1: I saw, you know the stars uh um McKinney and
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  Speaker 1: stars chas Lamar Shephard and Regina Bear comes up fire
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  Speaker 1: at the very top of its you know, leading the
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  Speaker 1: church and strong women and female characters. That's what that
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  Speaker 1: was My number one takeaway from this particular project was
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  Speaker 1: that was that was that a purposeful motion of uh
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  Speaker 1: take on this particular script. You wanted to do a
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  Speaker 1: movie that that show women, especially Black women, empowered in
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  Speaker 1: this manner because they are very very a directive their
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  Speaker 1: short leadership. They're showing sensitivity, they're showing arms, all these things.
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  Speaker 1: That's my number one takeaway from this, which I thought
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  Speaker 1: was fantastic. Yeah, that is no doubt a man date
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  Speaker 1: for Lifetime. Lifetime is very committed to UH, to diversity
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  Speaker 1: and to be able to give women, especially women of color,
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  Speaker 1: opportunities in front of the camera, behind the camera, and
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  Speaker 1: so um um it is UH very much intentional. And
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  Speaker 1: and even from from the writer of the movie to
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  Speaker 1: the UH to other EPs that repeying de parject with
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  Speaker 1: me Tracy Tweinaky Bird and uh Leslie Grief and and
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  Speaker 1: and and just so many others, is is that it
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  Speaker 1: is it is intentional to be able to show the
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  Speaker 1: diversity of who we are as people of color. And
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  Speaker 1: I even think that Lifetime even allowing me to brand
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  Speaker 1: the movie Kirk Franklin's and Gospel Christmas shows even their
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  Speaker 1: commitment to diversity to even genres UH to be able
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  Speaker 1: to show that there's a viability within the space, to
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  Speaker 1: be able to bring to even allow somebody from my
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  Speaker 1: community to be able to to Brandon movie that they
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  Speaker 1: spent millions of dollars to make is something that I'm
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  Speaker 1: very humbled of and and I and I and I
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  Speaker 1: prayed that the community comes out and supports it to
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  Speaker 1: be able to show UH networks is because you and
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  Speaker 1: I both know I'm uh. You know, TV and film
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  Speaker 1: they're not in the missionary business. You know, their money business,
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  Speaker 1: and so and so it is very important that if
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  Speaker 1: we want uh inspirational and aspirational entertainment, that we've got
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  Speaker 1: to show up. That we've got to be able to
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  Speaker 1: show up in the numbers. Like for example, in Lifetime
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  Speaker 1: was the number one holiday movie destination, but over seventy
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  Speaker 1: one eight million viewers of watching this type of programming
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  Speaker 1: for the holidays. And so with Kirk Franklins of Gospel Christmas,
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  Speaker 1: I would really love to show them that people really
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  Speaker 1: love this genre of music and that they're going to
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  Speaker 1: show up because they get excited like this. This movie
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  Speaker 1: will feature reimagined versions of Christmas songs from my Christmas
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  Speaker 1: album You've Met Me, the Christmas album in n and
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  Speaker 1: so the theme of the script was built around songs
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  Speaker 1: from my Christmas album and they've been reimagined for this movie,
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  Speaker 1: and so it's gonna be super dope and it's it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be a very good snuggy movie. Get you
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  Speaker 1: Conversations as I continue my conversation with sixteen time Grammy
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  Speaker 1: Award winning gospel singer, songwriter, arranger and producer Kurt Franklin.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, you know it's a romance. You know
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  Speaker 1: it's romance and attractive reads Charles Lamar shipperd Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: and I when we did his very first sitcom, Me
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  Speaker 1: and the Boys, back in ninety four. Shepherd was one
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  Speaker 1: of the kids on the show. So I've been doing
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  Speaker 1: Chance all the way back to this ninety four. And
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  Speaker 1: then uh Dmitria McKinney, I've been knowing us on my show.
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  Speaker 1: I met her wonderful son, she's a powerful single mom.
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  Speaker 1: And then Regina mal So when I when I watched
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  Speaker 1: a show like this, like I said, I just had
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  Speaker 1: Kelly Rowland and uh Brecia Webb on the show talking
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  Speaker 1: about their Lifetime project and one of the reason I
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  Speaker 1: bringing up up in the interviews that Lifetime is making
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  Speaker 1: a commit meant to diversity like you were saying, this
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  Speaker 1: is not a woman. They're comfortable with putting us people
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  Speaker 1: of color on their network. That's important for us to see, correct,
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  Speaker 1: very important. But just because we we we have heard
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  Speaker 1: what's been coined as this new uh phrase, But it's
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  Speaker 1: really true across all cultural UH format is that representation
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  Speaker 1: not on the gender uh, gender equality, but it's also
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  Speaker 1: race equality and and so uh these things matter. These
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  Speaker 1: some of the key line things that systemically divide us,
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  Speaker 1: like socio economic equality or disparity. And so when when
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  Speaker 1: black folk are able to write scripts and to be
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  Speaker 1: behind the camera and to work on movies, then now
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing is that you're making that that playground
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  Speaker 1: a a more more more fair opportunity for all people.
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  Speaker 1: Is because you're not only seeing us with with needs
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  Speaker 1: want to be able to show a bigger image of
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  Speaker 1: the hopefulness that can come from a community of people, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the beauty of you know, like I was mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: like I was interviewing Dr Tony Evans, based out of Dallas,
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  Speaker 1: is about his doctor humanity and his journey and and
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  Speaker 1: what I call him as a visual Bible is beautiful
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  Speaker 1: going back to Israel with his family and all this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: and his wife is in it before she passed away
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  Speaker 1: and said Daddy who's recently passed away. So it's an
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  Speaker 1: emotional story. But what I want to say is that
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  Speaker 1: never in my life have I seen this amount of
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  Speaker 1: a black culture on so many different unique mainstreams, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And that's the beauty of where we're living at Kirk
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  Speaker 1: And for you to be a person who you know,
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  Speaker 1: who has come through the lens of music and music
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  Speaker 1: allows you to produce videos and be a part of
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  Speaker 1: that directorial. And one of I'm telling that one of
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  Speaker 1: the all time great funny entertaining videos was when Kurt
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  Speaker 1: spoofed himself with Steve Harvey back. If y'all find that video,
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the funniest videos of all time. When
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  Speaker 1: they do a spoof of Eddie Murphett, that's one of
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  Speaker 1: the all time This brother, he is very funny. I
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  Speaker 1: just popped in my head when I'm thinking about your
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  Speaker 1: laughing about that man. But when you look at these transitions. Man,
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  Speaker 1: Now you're about to do a shoe eight episode series
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  Speaker 1: that explores the gospel music industry through the Lens family, faith, love,
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  Speaker 1: and redemptive power of music. That's the power of gospel
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  Speaker 1: music is the redemptive power. That's what I got out
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  Speaker 1: of the show your movie that I was just watching.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Kirk Franklin's Our Gospel Christmas is redemptive because
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  Speaker 1: of the fact that in her she doubted herself, she
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  Speaker 1: didn't believe she could accomplish her task that her parents
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  Speaker 1: knew she could do. And that's really powerful content for
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  Speaker 1: young people to see, and especially for black people to see. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it's that. I think that that that that the the
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  Speaker 1: narrative of the black experience in North America is so
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  Speaker 1: transferable uh over socio economic lines uh um uh religious lines, uh,
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  Speaker 1: lines of academia and scholarship. Is because as people of color,
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  Speaker 1: we speak these the secret languages, these these these these
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  Speaker 1: waves and and and and and these energies that that
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  Speaker 1: are just transferable to our people. We we we know
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  Speaker 1: what this means. You know, we know what this means.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, you know, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know and and we understand it. If you went
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  Speaker 1: to an h B c U or if you went
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  Speaker 1: to an Ivy League school, you understand the heartbeat of
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  Speaker 1: our people and soul for Hollywood two uh, to not
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  Speaker 1: always continue to appropriate our experience, but to include us
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  Speaker 1: in our own stories. Um, it just makes for a
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  Speaker 1: for for for a more civil society when people feel
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  Speaker 1: like they matter and they're spearences are not being plagiarized,
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  Speaker 1: but but but they are being they are being compensated
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  Speaker 1: for the uniqueness of how God made Before we get
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  Speaker 1: into the drama series Kingdom, um, Kingdom Business. Now the
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  Speaker 1: Apple TV plus that you're doing with Mariah Carey Kalig,
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  Speaker 1: what exactly is that? And it follows the line of Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: What exactly is that there's gonna air in December? Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: I mean we all know that Maria carriss Christmas song
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  Speaker 1: is the biggest, biggest Christmas song in history. UM, her
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  Speaker 1: single All I Want for Christmas as You. And so
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  Speaker 1: with this new single that we were part of, she
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  Speaker 1: she presented a or she's going to be a part
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  Speaker 1: of a a Christmas special that's featuring her and it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a big production for Apple TV for for
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  Speaker 1: the Christmas holidays, and you'll be able to get to
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  Speaker 1: watch it. And of course me and and and uh
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  Speaker 1: Kalig will be performing song and it's a major production.
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  Speaker 1: She's going to be doing several different songs and so
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  Speaker 1: it's a big event. It's going to be a big
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  Speaker 1: event for Apple Plus. And uh there's no release state
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  Speaker 1: for it yet. Apple wants it to be something that
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: is kind of a shock value moment. But it will
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  Speaker 1: be the only place that you'll be able to see
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  Speaker 1: the performance of us three together for the song. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's an exclusive performance and so it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: a very big night once again for the coaching. And
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  Speaker 1: now let's go on to my main you know, Kingdom
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  Speaker 1: Business eight episodes. Okay, Holly Carter, you know the Franklin
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  Speaker 1: Franklin come on now, talk to talk about this new series. Man. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: we were working on this project for about three years,
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  Speaker 1: just just um, just working on development. Uh sack Mere
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  Speaker 1: and Uh Sackman and Lane Heart are two beautiful white
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  Speaker 1: brothers that had the scripted that had a story about
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  Speaker 1: gospel music and faith and challenges and drama and and
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  Speaker 1: and just the realities of of of of like real
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  Speaker 1: life experiences, uh that are all the backdrop of this
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  Speaker 1: incredible opportunity for music. I'm also the mutic man and
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  Speaker 1: also one of the executive produces. I'm the music supervisor
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  Speaker 1: and so, uh, by God's great, I'm writing new music
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  Speaker 1: for every episode, every scene. Uh that that that gospel
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  Speaker 1: music is now being a part of telling bigger stories.
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  Speaker 1: And so like you hear music uh in the episodes
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  Speaker 1: that are that are from from the culture, but they
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  Speaker 1: speak to the moments that that that the script requires.
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  Speaker 1: And it was a wonderful opportunity. It was hard. I'm
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  Speaker 1: in the studio right now finishing one of the songs
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  Speaker 1: right now. I was here to five o'clock this morning,
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  Speaker 1: just kind of finishing episode. And I'm back today for
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  Speaker 1: the band and singers while doing interviews for for Kirk
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  Speaker 1: Franker's The Gospel Christmas. So, you know, it's it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it's been a lot of work because Kingdom business is
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  Speaker 1: a it's it's uh, it's it's episodic, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just want to make God proud of you. You
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  Speaker 1: what was on the same sister sister way back then,
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