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Defending Police Heroes, Passing Trey’s Law & Fighting for Imprisoned Christians in China, plus Israel Sues the NYT · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdic with Center. Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
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Speaker 1: with you. It's so nice to have you with us.
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Speaker 1: If you're listening on the radio around the Country Center.
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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to chat about on today's show,
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Speaker 1: including some we haven't seen a long time. We are
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Speaker 1: celebrating at the White House. It in Washington, d C.
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Speaker 1: Law enforcement not trying to defund them.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's exactly right. This past week was Police Week.
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Speaker 2: We had police officers from all across the country come
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Speaker 2: to Washington, d C.
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Speaker 3: Come to the.
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Speaker 2: Capitol and we celebrated, celebrated the heroism. We celebrated and
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Speaker 2: remembered the officers who gave their lives, gave their lives
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Speaker 2: in duty defending us. And it really after all of
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Speaker 2: the vilification, after all of the attacks that are directed
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Speaker 2: at police officers, it was nice to have a time
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Speaker 2: just to say thank you. And it was also a
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Speaker 2: time that was recognized the Senate Judiciary Committee. This week
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Speaker 2: we passed a series of bills out of the Judiciary Committee,
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Speaker 2: including two different bills that I authored, one directed specifically
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Speaker 2: to police officers and a second protecting child victims of
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Speaker 2: sexual assault, and both of those victories are significant. Both
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Speaker 2: of them are now going to the floor of the Senate,
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Speaker 2: and I think we'll get both pasted into law.
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Speaker 1: It's going to be really awesome. We're going to break
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Speaker 1: that down for you in a moment. I also want
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Speaker 1: by Americans United for Life. All right, Senator, so let's
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Speaker 1: talk about saying that's just exciting for me. My dad
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Speaker 1: still is involved in law enforcement. I am so glad
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Speaker 1: to see the Republican Party moving to put a law
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Speaker 1: enforcement where they deserve to be, which is in a
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Speaker 1: great light instead of a dehumanizing, attacking defund And every
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Speaker 1: time something happens, we immediately go after law enforcement that
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Speaker 1: has changed and something else that's really significant, A bipartisan
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Speaker 1: piece of legislation that your name is on that is
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Speaker 1: going to do something incredible for people that protect.
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Speaker 3: And serve well.
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Speaker 2: This week, the Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously passed my legislation.
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Speaker 2: It's entitled the Officer John Barnes and Chi Michael ansbro
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Speaker 2: Public Safety Officers Benefit Program Expansion Act of twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 2: Now it is named for two tremendous heroes. First of all,
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Speaker 2: Officer John Barnes. Officer John Barnes was the police officer
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Speaker 2: at Santa Fe High School where you'll recall Ben the
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Speaker 2: horrific school shooting that happened. Santa Fe is just outside
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Speaker 2: of Houston, and it's the morning of that shooting. I
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Speaker 2: was actually at home when that shooting happened, and so
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Speaker 2: I jumped in a truck and headed down to the school.
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Speaker 2: I was on campus about an hour after the shooting happened,
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Speaker 2: and I will tell you the horror of what transpired
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Speaker 2: there as that deranged gunman shot and murdered multiple students
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Speaker 2: and Officer John Barnes was on duty, and when the
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Speaker 2: shooter began his rampage, Officer Barnes rushed the shooter. He
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Speaker 2: put himself between the shooter and the students. He saved
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Speaker 2: multiple students' lives. And the shooter had one of the
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Speaker 2: weapons he was armed with was a shotgun, and he
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Speaker 2: fired the shotgun and it hit Officer Barnes in the
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Speaker 2: arm and did permanent damage to his elbow, to his arm.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 3: He had massive blood loss. Uh.
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Speaker 2: And he ended up actually flatlining twice and being resuscitated twice.
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Speaker 2: And I've got to know Officer Barnes, and he's he's
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Speaker 2: the man is a hero. He risked his life and
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Speaker 2: almost gave his life to protect the students that he
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Speaker 2: had been charged with protecting. And so this bill honors
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Speaker 2: him and and and it also honors Chief Michael ansbro
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Speaker 2: who was a hero on nine to eleven, And he
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Speaker 2: was one of the first responders in nine to eleven
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Speaker 2: who rushed into the building, rescued people, risked his life.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: He survived nine to eleven in the collapse of the towers,
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Speaker 2: but in the course of that he inhalesiled so much
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Speaker 2: toxic material that ultimately Chief Annsbrod died from cancer from
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Speaker 2: all of the poison he inhaled on nine to eleven.
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Speaker 2: With both of them, they submitted applications to the Public
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Speaker 2: Safety Officer's Benefit Program. Now, the Public Safety Officer's Benefit
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Speaker 2: Program is created within the Department of Justice and in
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Speaker 2: particular the Bureau of Justice Assistance, and it does several things.
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Speaker 2: Number one, it provides death benefits to survivors of officers
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Speaker 2: who died.
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Speaker 3: In the line of duty.
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Speaker 2: And that's something I think we owe owe their families
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Speaker 2: to say thank you for that. And then secondly, it
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Speaker 2: provides assistance to people who are permanently disabled as a
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Speaker 2: result of in the light of the duty injury. And
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Speaker 2: the problem is that the program has historically been very
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Speaker 2: very slow and very very delayed. You look at the
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Speaker 2: Santa Fe shooting. The Santa Fe shooting happened in twenty eighteen.
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Speaker 2: Officer Barnes application is still pending. It's eight years later
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Speaker 2: and it hasn't been adjudicated. The same is true for
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Speaker 2: the application for benefits for Chief Ansbrose family, is that
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Speaker 2: it's delayed and it's still pending long after he passed away.
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Speaker 2: And so what this bill that I did along with
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Speaker 2: Kirsten gilibrand Kirsten Jilibran is a Democrat from New York.
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Speaker 3: She's a friend.
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Speaker 2: She and I have actually done quite a bit together,
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Speaker 2: and so she this was originally the Officer John Barnes
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Speaker 2: bill because he's a Texan and someone I know, and
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Speaker 2: we teamed up and she brought in Michael Landsboro to
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Speaker 2: honor a nine to eleven hero as well. And what
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Speaker 2: this bill does is speed up the determination of benefits.
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Speaker 2: And so it puts a shot clock of two hundred
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Speaker 2: and seventy days. It says the Department of Justice must
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Speaker 2: make it a termination within two hundred and seventy days.
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Speaker 2: You can't have it drag on for eight years. And
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Speaker 2: it also it expedites the processing. And it also expands
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Speaker 2: the coverage. So it extends partial eligibility to officers who
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Speaker 2: are permanently but not totally disabled. So if you have
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Speaker 2: a permanent disability, you qualify. It expands the number of officers,
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Speaker 2: the number of officers families who qualify, and it speeds it up.
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Speaker 2: We got this through the Senate Judiciary Committee. The next
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Speaker 2: step is to move it on the floor of the Senate.
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Speaker 2: Then we'll move it through the House, and I'm confident
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Speaker 2: President Trump will sign it to law.
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Speaker 1: Before we get to trades with Law Center, I want
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Speaker 1: to ask you a couple of questions. Just I think
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Speaker 1: when Americans see this type of bipartisan leadership and you
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Speaker 1: see that this about benefits of those that have risked
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Speaker 1: their lives or given the ultimate sacrifice their life, and
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Speaker 1: to see how many loopholes there are to jump through
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Speaker 1: to clearly get the benefits of the family needs. If
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Speaker 1: you've ever set with an officer, and I have, and
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Speaker 1: it's a miserable moment, or let me rephrase that, a
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Speaker 1: family of a fallen officer. In that miserable moment, even
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Speaker 1: after all of all the people go back home and
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Speaker 1: life gets back to normal, that is when the real
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Speaker 1: thermal they say, sets in because you're waiting for so
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Speaker 1: many things that you've been promised to come through. And
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Speaker 1: then you compare that center to the waste, fraud, and
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Speaker 1: abuse that we're finding where there's just billions here, another
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Speaker 1: billion here, another million here, another twenty million here, another
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Speaker 1: thirty million here, these daycare centers, hospice centers. It would
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Speaker 1: make you go insane if you are a family that's
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Speaker 1: just waiting on the benefit because your loved one gave
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Speaker 1: their life to protect and serve. How frustrating is that
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Speaker 1: for you when you see that this is how we
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Speaker 1: treat our heroes and yet the villains, these con artists,
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Speaker 1: they can get their hands on billions and billions of dollars.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's deeply frustrating. Listen, if an officer tragically
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Speaker 2: loses his or her life in the line of duty,
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Speaker 2: that there's nothing we can do to bring them back.
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Speaker 2: There's nothing we can do to bring that officer back
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Speaker 2: to their loved ones.
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Speaker 3: Uh. But but we do owe honoring our commitments to them.
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Speaker 3: We do oh being there for their family. Uh.
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Speaker 2: The men and women in blue who put themselves on
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Speaker 2: the line, like John Barnes, they literally stand in harm's way.
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Speaker 2: They stand between someone who would harm or kill us.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: And and ourselves are our loved ones. And and unfortunately,
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Speaker 2: bureaucracy is one of the few constants in the world,
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Speaker 2: and and dealing with the federal government is frequently maddening
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Speaker 2: and infuriating. That being said, the pso B process, this
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Speaker 2: benefit process, is notoriously slow, It is notoriously backlogged. And
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Speaker 2: so this is a common sense bill just to speed
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Speaker 2: up the process, to ensure that that that that whether
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Speaker 2: it's an office who's lost his life like Chief Ansbro
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Speaker 2: or whether it's an officer who is permanently disabled, like
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Speaker 2: John Barnes, that we make the determinations quickly and we
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Speaker 2: provide them the benefits they've been promised.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely right. I want to move on to Tred's
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Speaker 1: Law as well, and we've talked about this before on
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Speaker 1: this show, but for people that are listening many are
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Speaker 1: listening on the radio around the country this show, can
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Speaker 1: you give us a recap of Trade's Law, how it
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Speaker 1: became about, and now what's happening moving forward.
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Speaker 2: Well, Trey's Law is named for a Texan named for
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Speaker 2: Trey Carlock. Trey Carlock grew up in Dallas and as
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Speaker 2: a kid, he went to a Christian summer camp and
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Speaker 2: at the summer camp, tragically an adult man groomed him
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Speaker 2: and then for years sexually abused him. And ultimately that
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Speaker 2: sexual abuse resulted in a lawsuit. That lawsuit was settled
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Speaker 2: and one of the terms of the settlement was that
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Speaker 2: Trey Carrarlock signed a non disclosure agreement where he committed
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Speaker 2: to not disclose to anyone the details of his years
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Speaker 2: of sexual abuse. Well, the abuse continued taking a toll
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Speaker 2: on Trey, and tragically he took his own life and
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Speaker 2: he was silenced. He shared with his therapist how frustrated
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Speaker 2: he was about being silenced and not being able to
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Speaker 2: speak the truth of his experience of the abuse that
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Speaker 2: he suffered. Trey's law has risen up in the wake
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Speaker 2: of that. And Tray's law is very simple. What it
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Speaker 2: does is it prohibits enforcement of non disclosure agreements concerning
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Speaker 2: victims of child sexual assault, so that legally you cannot
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Speaker 2: enforce a gag order that if a child is sexually assaulted.
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Speaker 2: And I will say, sexual assault of kids is an
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Speaker 2: epidemic in this country. It happens far too often, and
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Speaker 2: litigation and non disclosure agreements are commonplace features that that
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Speaker 2: that the the people who are assaulting kids will put
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Speaker 2: in place to silence the victims.
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Speaker 3: And nobody should have a right to do that. Uh.
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Speaker 2: You know, Tray's Law was was championed by by Trey's sister, Elizabeth,
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Speaker 2: and we had Elizabeth on this show. She talked about
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Speaker 2: her brother, she talked about her her effort. She went
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Speaker 2: in Texas. The state legislature in Texas has already passed
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Speaker 2: Trade's Law.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 2: The legislature at Alabama's passed trades law. Missouri has passed
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Speaker 2: trades law. A number of different states of passed Tray's
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Speaker 2: Law UH and I introduced it UH in the US
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Speaker 2: Congress uh to so that we could pass it nationally.
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Speaker 2: And again I joined with with Kirsten Gillibrand she and
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Speaker 2: I did both of these bills together, UH and and
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Speaker 2: it is it is designed to ensure that that that
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Speaker 2: any child victim has the right to speak out and
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Speaker 2: and the court system will not be used as a
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Speaker 2: tool of a second round of abuse, because when you're
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Speaker 2: silencing a child victim, that is once again abusive. And
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Speaker 2: in Trey's case in particular, he described that great length
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Speaker 2: to his therapist how he felt silenced and agonized that
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Speaker 2: he wasn't able to speak about it. His sister Elizabeth
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Speaker 2: told us on this podcast how much of what happened
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Speaker 2: to her brother she didn't even find out about until
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Speaker 2: after he was dead, until after he'd taken his own life,
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Speaker 2: because because of the gag order, he didn't share it
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Speaker 2: with his sister, he didn't share it with his family.
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Speaker 2: And so Trey's Law, we passed it unanimously through the
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Speaker 2: Senate Judiciary Committee. We'll get it on the floor, we'll
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Speaker 2: get it through the House and once again, the President's
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Speaker 2: going to sign.
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Speaker 1: big trip to China and specifically you add some notes,
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Speaker 1: some requests, some advocacy for some Americans that are being held.
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Speaker 1: And this was a really big moment that people should
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Speaker 1: be talking about.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so this was a meaningful legislative week. We've already
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Speaker 2: talked about the two victories we had in the Senate
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Speaker 2: Judiciary Committee passing two bills I authored. We had a
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Speaker 2: third victory on the Senate floor, which is the entire
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Speaker 2: Senate passed a resolution that I authored along with Dick Durbin,
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Speaker 2: Democrat from Illinois, concerning the President's China trip and in
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Speaker 2: particular urging the President to prioritize the release of political prisoners,
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Speaker 2: the release of people who are wrongfully imprisoned in China,
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Speaker 2: including Jimmy Lai, who's the great democracy activist in Hong Kong.
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Speaker 2: I met Jimmy Lai when I traveled to Hong Kong.
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Speaker 2: I met with him. His health is failing. He is
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Speaker 2: being imprisoned because the Chinese Communist government views him as
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Speaker 2: a threat to their communist depression. And then also focusing
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Speaker 2: on the Christian pastors and including Pastor ezra Zin who
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Speaker 2: have been targeted, who have been arrested. China has been
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Speaker 2: cracking down on Christian pastors and so Dick Durbin and
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Speaker 2: I together introduced this resolution. We took it to the
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Speaker 2: Senate floor and this week it passed one hundred to nothing.
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Speaker 2: So the entire Senate with a bipartisan voice urge the
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Speaker 2: President prioritize the releasing of these political prisoners.
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Speaker 1: It matters how much political I think pressure in a
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Speaker 1: positive way does that create for the conversation that happened,
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Speaker 1: Because when you meet with an adversary like China, and
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Speaker 1: if you've ever been around these meetings, I was around
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Speaker 1: a couple of them, and the Bush is second term,
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Speaker 1: a lot of it is very much scripted. You have
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Speaker 1: State Department that gets with their equivalent, the State Department.
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Speaker 1: They decide what will and will not be talked about
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Speaker 1: the table and these meetings. But when you have one
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Speaker 1: hundred and nothing vote, you have Dick Durbin, you have
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Speaker 1: you And is that giving the AMMO extra to the
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Speaker 1: President saying hey, you've got all of the United States
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Speaker 1: Congress behind you. It gives you a reason even if
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Speaker 1: you need to in essence to break protocol on what's
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Speaker 1: been agreed to in the meetings, to say, hey, this
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Speaker 1: just happened and we got to talk about it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly right. And this is something when I
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Speaker 2: put this resolution on the floor, I'm working in coordination
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Speaker 2: with the White House, with the administration and the President
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Speaker 2: had already indicated an openness to raising these political prisoners.
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Speaker 2: And what this does is give him additional ammunition. It
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Speaker 2: lets him say to Ji, look, the Senate one hundred
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Speaker 2: and nothing. We may have political disagreements in our country
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Speaker 2: and other topics, but.
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Speaker 3: Not on this.
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Speaker 2: Every every single Senator, from the most conservative to the
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Speaker 2: most liberal, they're all on the same page. And I
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Speaker 2: use an example that's actually a very similar circumstance, which
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Speaker 2: is Mark Swedan. So, Mark Swedan is a Texan who
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Speaker 2: was wrongfully imprisoned in China for over ten years.
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Speaker 3: He was thrown in.
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Speaker 2: Prison, his health failed badly, and I led the fight
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Speaker 2: in the Senate for years to free Mark Swedan, including
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Speaker 2: sitting down with a ambassador in one on one, leaning
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Speaker 2: in very hard, trying urging China to release him, that
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Speaker 2: that that civilized countries don't keep political prisoners. Joe Biden
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Speaker 2: was President UH during much of this time, and so
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Speaker 2: I repeatedly pressured President Biden and and and the State
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Speaker 2: Department to raise Mark Swedan. Mark Sweden's mom is it
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Speaker 2: lives in Texas. I talked to her multiple times, and
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Speaker 2: I did the same thing. I introduced a resolution calling
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Speaker 2: for the release of Mark Swedan, and it passed the
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Speaker 2: Senate just like this one did one hundred and nothing
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Speaker 2: that gives real force, and it ended up Joe Biden
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Speaker 2: followed through and pressed it. The State Department followed through,
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Speaker 2: and finally the pressure was enough that China released Mark Swedan.
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Speaker 2: So he is no longer in a Chinese prison. He
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Speaker 2: has been released. He came back. In fact, he came
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Speaker 2: to my office. I had the opportunity to meet him
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Speaker 2: and embrace him. And this is someone who for years
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Speaker 2: I was speaking his name and demanding his release. And
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Speaker 2: it's you know, often when you're dealing with with with
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Speaker 2: a government like the Chinese Communist government, it's a question
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Speaker 2: of ratcheting up pressure and any one step typically is
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Speaker 2: not enough. But the more pressure you put on, the
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Speaker 2: more leverage you put on, the more likely they are
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Speaker 2: to comply. So, you know, here's what the resolution said,
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Speaker 2: expressing the sense of the Senate that the President should
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Speaker 2: prioritize securing the release of Pastor Jin Mengri, Pastor Guau
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Speaker 2: Guangfu and his wife, Pangju Jimmy Lai, doctor Gulshan Abbas
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Speaker 2: and Ek Perasat detained by the People's Republic of China
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Speaker 2: during future engagements with Chinese President Shijingping, Whereas the government
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Speaker 2: of the People's Republic of China has arrested Chinese, American
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Speaker 2: and British citizens for the peaceful expression of free speech
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Speaker 2: or religion, or such acts by family members, Whereas such
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Speaker 2: arrests have been widely condemned by the international community and
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Speaker 2: human rights organizations, with repeated calls for the release of
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Speaker 2: the detainees. Whereas, on May seventeenth, twenty twenty five, Pastor
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Speaker 2: Gao Guang Kwangfu of the Light of Zion Church in
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Speaker 2: Xian City was detained and is being held on charges
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Speaker 2: of quote using superstitious activities to undermine the implementation of
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Speaker 2: law in other words, being a Christian is what they're
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Speaker 2: holding him for, and also quote fraud. Whereas Pastor GAO's wife,
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Speaker 2: Pang Yu, who was subsequently detained on June seventh, twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty five, remains held despite holding no official position in
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Speaker 2: the church and has been denied access to critical prescription medication.
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Speaker 2: Whereas Honor about October tenth, twenty twenty five, authorities of
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Speaker 2: the People's Republic of China detained Pastor Jenmingri, founder of
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Speaker 2: Zion Church, along with other church leaders, on equally dubious
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Speaker 2: charges of quote illegal uses of information networks, Whereas Pastor
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Speaker 2: Jin continues to be detained without access to critical medications
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Speaker 2: to treat diabetes or contact with family members in the
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Speaker 2: People's Republic of China and the United States. Whereas on
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Speaker 2: November seventh, twenty twenty five, the Senate unanimously passed Senate
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Speaker 2: Resolution four to sixty three calling for the immediate unconditional
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Speaker 2: release of all detained members of Zion Church, including Pastor
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Speaker 2: Gin and by the way, that was my resolution as
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Speaker 2: well that I introduced in pass last year, and for
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Speaker 2: the government of the People's Republic of China to end
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Speaker 2: harassment and intimidations of the relatives of Zion Church members
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Speaker 2: and their relatives. Whereas in nineteen ninety five, Jimmy Lai
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Speaker 2: founded the Apple Daily newspaper in Hong Kong and subsequently
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Speaker 2: faced repeated harassment and arrest, including a sixty nine months
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Speaker 2: cent twenty twenty two on dubious fraud charges that were
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Speaker 2: later overturned, and a subsequent twenty year sentence in February
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six on dubious national security charges, Whereas in
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Speaker 2: December twenty twenty five, President Donald Trump said he had
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Speaker 2: asked Chinese President Shi Jingping to consider releasing Jimmy Lai.
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Speaker 2: Whereas on December fourth, twenty twenty five, House Resolution nine
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Speaker 2: thirty was introduced commemorating Jimmy Lai and calling on authorities
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Speaker 2: the People's Republic of China to immediately and unconditionally release
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Speaker 2: Jimmy Lai and all other Hong Kong pro democracy advocates imprisons.
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Speaker 2: It goes on there a whole series more of whereas provisions,
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Speaker 2: but then it says resolved that the Senate calls upon
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Speaker 2: the President to prioritize securing the humanitarian release of Pastor
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Speaker 2: Jin mingre Pastor Guao Gao Kwanfu and his wife Pangyu,
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Speaker 2: Jimmy Lai, doctor Gulsham abbas and Ek Perasat, and other
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Speaker 2: wrongf detained individuals on the agenda for engagements with President
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Speaker 2: Chi Jinping, including the anticipated May twenty twenty sixth summit,
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Speaker 2: and urges the President to seek verifiable proof of life
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Speaker 2: and access to independent legal counsel, family communication, and medical
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Speaker 2: care for such detainees, and reaffirms the commitment of the
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Speaker 2: United States to defend political and religious freedoms worldwide.
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Speaker 1: Incredible, it really is. And look, this is an administration,
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Speaker 1: as you know, that has really been about getting back
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Speaker 1: Americans all over the world. They've made it a prayer order.
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Speaker 2: Its great success. President Trump is very effective at this and.
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Speaker 1: That's the reason why I think it's gonna be very
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Speaker 1: interesting to see what comes out of this quickly, what
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Speaker 1: is your definition of success of overall this big meeting
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Speaker 1: with China.
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Speaker 2: Look, it depends. There are a number of things that
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Speaker 2: President Trump is trying to accomplish. One of the things
25:55
Speaker 2: he's trying to do is to get China to assist
25:59
Speaker 2: with Iran is the main purchaser of Iranian oil, and
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Speaker 2: so China could exert a lot of leverage over Iran,
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Speaker 2: and the President is urging she to lean on Iran
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Speaker 2: in particular to hand over there enriched geranium, to stop enriching,
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Speaker 2: to stop funding terrorism, and to open the Strait of Hormuz. Secondly,
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Speaker 2: I think the President is also working to open the
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Speaker 2: Chinese market. So, for example, it's been reported now that
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Speaker 2: China agreed to buy two hundred Boeing planes.
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Speaker 3: That's a big deal.
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Speaker 2: The President is fighting for farmers and ranchers to get
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Speaker 2: our crops and our livestock into China, and he's fighting
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Speaker 2: for US manufacturers, and so he's fighting for American jobs
26:41
Speaker 2: in China. He's fighting for American national security in China.
26:45
Speaker 2: And he's also fighting for China to do the right
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Speaker 2: thing and release these these wrongfully detained political prisoners.
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Speaker 1: All right, Senator, this is a very interesting story. It
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Speaker 1: deals with the New York Times not saying you say
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Speaker 1: every day, being sued by a foreign country and a
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Speaker 1: lawsuit that I think many are going to be very
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Speaker 1: excited when they hear exactly who's suing the New York
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Speaker 1: Times and what it's all about.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's start with the proposition that The New York
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Speaker 2: Times is a garbage newspaper, that they are not in fact.
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Speaker 1: You need a second for that. I second that, amen.
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Speaker 3: Look, they are not journalists.
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Speaker 2: They are not objectively reporting on facts, they are not
27:22
Speaker 2: trying to tell the truth. They are dishonest. They are
27:25
Speaker 2: propagandas they are hard left, they are frequently pushing anti
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Speaker 2: American propaganda, left wing propaganda, and in particular, The New
27:34
Speaker 2: York Times hates the state of Israel. So they are
27:36
Speaker 2: routinely any way they can slander Israel, they're eager to
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Speaker 2: do so, and that has been the case for many decades.
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Speaker 2: That being said, that they reached a new low with
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Speaker 2: a column by Nicholas Christoff that was truly repulsive and
27:53
Speaker 2: let me read let me read to you how National
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Speaker 2: Review reported on this issue. The Israeli government is suing
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Speaker 2: The New York Times over columnists Nicholas christofs thinly sourced
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Speaker 2: report accusing Israeli soldiers and prison guards of using rape
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Speaker 2: and other forms of sexual violence against Palestinian prisoners as
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Speaker 2: part of an organized state policy. Christof's column, which goes
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Speaker 2: so far as to accuse Israeli soldiers of using trained
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Speaker 2: dogs to rape Palestinian prisoners, cites a number of obviously
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Speaker 2: conflicted organizations and individuals whose accounts are not backed by
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Speaker 2: documentation or supporting eyewitnesses accounts. Now understand this for a minute.
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Speaker 2: Christof wrote that the Israeli government uses dogs to rape
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Speaker 2: Palestinian prisoners men that they let's just start with a
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Speaker 2: fairly obvious proposition. Dogs don't rape people like. That's not
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Speaker 2: something dogs do. That's not like even in the world
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Speaker 2: of anti Semitic Israel. He eight making up stories that
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Speaker 2: they've trained dogs to rape human beings. There is zero
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Speaker 2: evidence of that. That is not something. And by the way,
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Speaker 2: Christoph had no evidence of it. He just cites well, here,
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Speaker 2: I'll read a little more quote following the publication by
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Speaker 2: Nicholas Christoff of The New York Times of one of
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Speaker 2: the most hideous and distorted lies ever published against the
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Speaker 2: state of Israel and the modern press, which also received
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Speaker 2: the backing of the newspaper, Prime Minister Benjamin Etna who
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Speaker 2: and Foreign Minister Gideon Syer have instructed the initiation of
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Speaker 2: a defamation lawsuit against The New York Times. So Israel
29:36
Speaker 2: is suing the New York Times for defamation. The column
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Speaker 2: cites fourteen individuals who claim to have been raped or
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Speaker 2: otherwise sexually assaulted by Israeli settlers or members of the
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Speaker 2: security forces, only a few of whom agree to be named.
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Speaker 2: Of the name sources, several have changed their accounts over time,
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Speaker 2: and at least one has a history of promoting hamas terror.
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Speaker 2: The column also relies heavily on claims made by human
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Speaker 2: rights watchdogs such as Euromed Human Rights Monitor, a group
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Speaker 2: with close ties to Hamas and a history of gross
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Speaker 2: and unsubstantiated claims against Israel. The Times is standing by Christoff,
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Speaker 2: saying in a Wednesday Evening statement that the column is
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Speaker 2: based on quote on the record accounts and cite several analyzes.
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Speaker 2: This is look the the slander and just the bias
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Speaker 2: of the New York Times that they don't report facts.
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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you Christoff's column came out right before
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Speaker 2: a detailed report came out of the sexual abuse by
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Speaker 2: Hamas on October seventh, and afterwards of the hostages they took.
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Speaker 2: And I guarantee you Christoff of the New York Times,
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Speaker 2: they knew this report was coming. And so this is
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Speaker 2: exactly out of the Sololensky playbook. This is exactly how
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Speaker 2: leftists operate. What it is what they are doing, they
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Speaker 2: accuse others of doing. In this instance, Hamas used rape
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Speaker 2: at a massive level. Now mind you, no accused.
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Speaker 1: Plan and well organized. To be clear, it was part
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Speaker 1: of the attack. And so people understand that's the reporting
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Speaker 1: that was coming out, which is why, of course the
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Speaker 1: New York Times would publish what they just published. The
31:18
Speaker 1: report was very clear that they had pre planned and
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Speaker 1: orchestrated to use rape and sexual assault during and after
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Speaker 1: the attacks of October seventh on the people that we're
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Speaker 1: gonna be taken hostage like this wasn't organic, it was
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Speaker 1: purposely planned to take place. And that's part of the reporting.
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Speaker 1: And so, like you mentioned a moment ago, we will
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Speaker 1: accuse the other side of doing literally what we did
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Speaker 1: and what they did the terrorists did that went in
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Speaker 1: there and took people is they said, we're gonna rape them,
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Speaker 1: We're gonna kill some of them, we're gonna rape others,
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna keep raping them and we're gonna hold
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Speaker 1: them hostage and keep sexually assaulting them. That was all
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Speaker 1: part of their terrorist plan.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And to give you a sense, you may say, well, look, Christoph,
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Speaker 2: he's a columnist in the New York Times. Surely he's objective.
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Speaker 2: Surely he's not biased, and that would of course be wrong.
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Speaker 2: And stop calling me, Shirley. Let me give you an
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Speaker 2: amazing fact about Nicholas Christoph. Okay, this is from a
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Speaker 2: story in the Free Beacon Headline.
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Speaker 3: Times.
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Speaker 2: Columnist Christoph's father fought on Nazi side in World War II,
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Speaker 2: hamas prison rape dog propagandist. Dad also defended Vshi War
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Speaker 2: criminal then committed suicide after decades of nightmares. Now New
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Speaker 2: York Times columnist Nicholas Christoph, whose article accusing Israel abusing
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Speaker 2: dogs and carrots to rape Palestinian prisoners, is being denounced
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Speaker 2: by the Israeli Foreign Minister as a hamas propagant ganda
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Speaker 2: fabricated in a baseless blood Libel had a father who
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Speaker 2: served on the Nazi side during World War II. In
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Speaker 2: Christof's twenty twenty four memoir Chasing Hope, he writes, when
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Speaker 2: I was growing up and other kids talked about their
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Speaker 2: dad heroically battling the Nazis, I kept quiet. I didn't
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Speaker 2: want to admit that my father had actually fought for
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Speaker 2: a year on the same side of the Nazis. Christo's
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Speaker 2: father also wrote a letter to the editor of The
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Speaker 2: Times in nineteen eighty nine defending Paul Tuvier, the intelligence
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Speaker 2: chief of a pro Nazi militia in Vishi, France, who
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Speaker 2: was convicted of killing seven Jewish hostages. Now look, I
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Speaker 2: got to say, I guess the apple doesn't fall far
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Speaker 2: from the tree. But it is still a little amazing
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Speaker 2: to have someone who fought alongside the Nazis have his
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Speaker 2: son now spreading Hamas propaganda attacking Israel. And I guess
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Speaker 2: the question you would ask is is there anyone responsible
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Speaker 2: at the New York Times?
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Speaker 3: Is there any.
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Speaker 2: Editor the fact that you have the State of Israel
33:51
Speaker 2: suing them for defamation? So one of the things Israel's
33:54
Speaker 2: going to get in this litigation is there going to
33:57
Speaker 2: get the emails and discussion of hey, is there any
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Speaker 2: fact checking? Is there any basis for these extraordinary and
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Speaker 2: ridiculous and absurd claims? And I'm I think it is
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Speaker 2: likely that you're going to see that the editors didn't
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Speaker 2: care if there was any basis. This is the political
34:16
Speaker 2: story they wanted to tell because they knew that the
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Speaker 2: damning report of Hamas's use of rape was coming out,
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Speaker 2: and so they decided, let's put it all on Israel
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Speaker 2: and blame Israel. It is It's disgraceful, but sadly it
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Speaker 2: is not very uncommon for The New York Times.
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Speaker 1: No it's not. And by the way, go grab that
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Speaker 1: free breaking article. You can read all about it. It's
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Speaker 1: a mos propagana. New York Times writer Christoph's sexual violence
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