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'No One Said Anything' as Warning Signs Emerge Online from Charlie Kirk's Investigation · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And then something happened to him over a fairly short
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  Speaker 1: period of time. Looks like he was radicalized over the internet,
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  Speaker 1: and it's radicalized on the left. He's a left, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of problems with the left, and they get protected
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  Speaker 1: and they shouldn't be protected. But as you understand, I
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  Speaker 1: think very well from the Tony new question.
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  Speaker 2: If you're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with
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  Speaker 2: Ben ferguson.
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  Speaker 3: Good Tuesday morning, it's so nice to have you with
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  Speaker 3: us on the forty seven Morning Update. And we've got
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  Speaker 3: one big story and it involves law enforcement, the FBI
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  Speaker 3: looking into individuals who appeared to have known about Charlie
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  Speaker 3: Kirk's assassination beforehand. And we also have new DNA evidence
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  Speaker 3: tying the shooter to the crime scene. All right, I
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  Speaker 3: That's if CJ dot org. It's the forty seven Morning
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  Speaker 3: Update and it starts right now. Story number one FBI
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  Speaker 3: Deputy Director Dan Bonngino coming out telling Fox News that
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  Speaker 3: there appears to have been multiple warning signs that pointed
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  Speaker 3: to the suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination prior to that
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  Speaker 3: shooting taking place. Speaking to Bill Himmer, Bongino said, not
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  Speaker 3: only does there appear to have been multiple warning signs,
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  Speaker 3: but there were people in the suspect's network, friends and
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  Speaker 3: family who had stated that he become more political. He
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  Speaker 3: went on to say, I believe some of his co
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  Speaker 3: workers said that he had kind of detached himself when
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  Speaker 3: the topic of politics came up and walked away from them.
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  Speaker 3: He added that it seems ideology had infected him and
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  Speaker 3: had taken over. I want you to hear more of
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  Speaker 3: what the FBI Deputy director had to say on Fox
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  Speaker 3: about what we know about him, how we were able
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  Speaker 3: to track him, the forensic that were involved. Listen carefully
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  Speaker 3: to what he had to say.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, after he fired that single fatal shot, we've got
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  Speaker 4: the video of him jumping off the back side of
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  Speaker 4: the building. Where is the gun when he drops fifteen
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  Speaker 4: feet down to the grass below.
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  Speaker 5: Well, if you look at the video, the gun is
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  Speaker 5: you'll see in the back of the when you watch
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  Speaker 5: in the video right there, it appears from the video
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  Speaker 5: here that the gun is either in the backpack or
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  Speaker 5: on him when he jumps down. This is where, by
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  Speaker 5: the way, this part of the video, this is where
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  Speaker 5: we got a significant portion of the forensic evidence in
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  Speaker 5: the case which we had to expedite. We had a
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  Speaker 5: number of assets, including fixed wing assets, to be able
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  Speaker 5: to fly if obviously Salt Lake and that specific area
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  Speaker 5: in Provo is not around the corner from FBI labs.
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  Speaker 4: It was difficult, but.
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  Speaker 5: We were able during that scene him grabbing that particular
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  Speaker 5: side of the building and jumping down, we were able
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  Speaker 5: to gather a significant amount of forensic information which we
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  Speaker 5: expedited back to the lab, which was the key, I
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  Speaker 5: think piece of information that we were able to crack
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  Speaker 5: this thing open.
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  Speaker 4: Oka. Looking at that video, it's hard to see the
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  Speaker 4: weapon and that's why the question is still obvious to
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  Speaker 4: me today. Cash Bettel said earlier today that he expressed
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  Speaker 4: to someone that he had an opportunity to take out
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  Speaker 4: the killer and was going to do it. Did that
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  Speaker 4: person do anything with that information?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what we're really disturbed about. It appears that
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  Speaker 5: this was communicated. You see this a lot, Bill, when
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  Speaker 5: in targeted violence cases, assassination, school shootings, where the individual
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  Speaker 5: expresses in advance, in a good swath of these cases
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  Speaker 5: his desire or her desire to do these specific things.
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  Speaker 5: That appears to be the case here as well. Where
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  Speaker 5: the intent component was there in advance and the target
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  Speaker 5: was was the target was announced in advance prior. Now
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  Speaker 5: that's the part we want to know where they did
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  Speaker 5: they know and not say they Now, Bill, you have
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  Speaker 5: to keep in mind, I don't want anyone to jump
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  Speaker 5: to conclusions on this. Did they say it, hear it
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  Speaker 5: and think it was some kind of a joke. That's
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  Speaker 5: what we're trying to find out now. But I promise you,
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  Speaker 5: if there's a larger network here, we're going to get
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  Speaker 5: that out to the public as soon as we can.
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  Speaker 4: We really are, Okay. The reason why this is really
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  Speaker 4: important to your investigation understanding motive that I'll get to
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  Speaker 4: in a moment here is that I believe that if
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  Speaker 4: I've got the dates right here, that that event was
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  Speaker 4: announced one week before it happened, and we've got the
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  Speaker 4: reporting from over the weekend that said that the killer,
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  Speaker 4: the accused killer now expressed views with his family at
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  Speaker 4: a dinner table, and I don't know what the timeline
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  Speaker 4: is between when that happened. Was it hours or was
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  Speaker 4: it days? I mean, clearly it had to be at
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  Speaker 4: least a couple of days, if not less. And if
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  Speaker 4: he also expressed this opinion that he had an opportunity
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  Speaker 4: to take our Kirk and was going to do it, well,
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  Speaker 4: when was that message transmitted from this point that Charlie
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  Speaker 4: was killed.
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  Speaker 5: This is the troubling part of the investigation. As I
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  Speaker 5: see it now, there appeared to have been multiple warning
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  Speaker 5: signs you just laid out some of them. There were
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  Speaker 5: people in his network, friends and family who had stated
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  Speaker 5: that he had become more political, that he had become
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  Speaker 5: at some parts. I believe some of his coworkers had
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  Speaker 5: stated that he had kind of detached himself when the
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  Speaker 5: topic of politics came up and walked away from them.
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  Speaker 5: Family members said he'd become more political, leading us to
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  Speaker 5: believe that this ideology had infected him and had taken over,
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  Speaker 5: and he was just intent. It appears from the data
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  Speaker 5: we've accumulated and the channel and that note, which we
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  Speaker 5: have some evidence may have existed before based on the
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  Speaker 5: communications in that channel, that his target was obviously going
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  Speaker 5: to be Charlie, and that people knew in advance. The
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  Speaker 5: question is again, and I which want to go back
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  Speaker 5: to what you had asked before. Did they know where
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  Speaker 5: they sure this or did they hear this and just
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  Speaker 5: write it off. That's what we're going to have to
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  Speaker 5: find out, and that's what we're investigating now. Bill. This
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  Speaker 5: investigation has just begun. This isn't even the beginning of
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  Speaker 5: the beginning. You know, Yes, we have a subject in custody.
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  Speaker 5: You know, everybody's innocent toal proven guilty in our constitutional republic. However,
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  Speaker 5: this is not done by any stretch. Our men and
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  Speaker 5: women out there in the Bureau have worked tirelessly all week.
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  Speaker 5: And I just got back to DC last night, and
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  Speaker 5: you know, Kash and I were out there on the scene.
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  Speaker 5: We walked the scene, We went through every single component
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  Speaker 5: of it. We saw the evidence up close and personal,
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  Speaker 5: and we went out there to be able to make
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  Speaker 5: command decisions with our team on the ground. And I
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  Speaker 5: think the process, although not perfect, of course, I think
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  Speaker 5: the process went pretty well considered. We got him in
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  Speaker 5: thirty thirty three.
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  Speaker 3: You listen to Bongino there, and I think were the
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  Speaker 3: things that he's also talking about is is there accountability
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  Speaker 3: for those that knew or may have known what was
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  Speaker 3: happening here? You go back to that key phrase. I
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  Speaker 3: believe some of his coworkers say that he had kind
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  Speaker 3: of attached himself. And then you move from there. He
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  Speaker 3: referenced the note that Robinson allegedly left behind, pointing that
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  Speaker 3: out out that it may have existed quote before, based
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  Speaker 3: on communications law enforcement has recovered. He indicated the totality
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  Speaker 3: of everything and makes it clear that quote his target
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  Speaker 3: was obviously going to be Charlie Kirk, and that the
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  Speaker 3: people around him knew that that was going to be
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  Speaker 3: his target in advance. So where do you go from here?
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  Speaker 3: What Bongino said is the investigators are now having to
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  Speaker 3: look at this. Did they know, were they sure of this,
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  Speaker 3: or did they hear this and just write it off.
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  Speaker 3: You put all of this together, and then you put
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  Speaker 3: it back to the Utah Governor Spencer Cox indication that
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  Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk's legislation quote had not only left leaning political beliefs,
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  Speaker 3: but clearly disliked Charlie Kirk and was telling people that.
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  Speaker 3: So I have to say, there needs to be some
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  Speaker 3: sort of accountability. There has to be some sort of
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  Speaker 3: obviously very good and in depth investigation. What we also
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  Speaker 3: know is there's no doubt that this is the guy.
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  Speaker 3: The FBI confirming the DNA found at the scene of
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  Speaker 3: Charlie kirk'sastination's hiding spot matches the suspect and apparently he
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  Speaker 3: had confessed to his family and to some friends, including
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  Speaker 3: in a chat room. And so with a confirmation now
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  Speaker 3: that the DNA samples founded the spot where Charlie Kirk's
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  Speaker 3: session hid positively matches suspect now in con custody. That
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  Speaker 3: also is going to move us forward on another point,
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  Speaker 3: and that is on the death penalty. Cashpittel saying this
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  Speaker 3: on Fox and Friends about the DNA matching, and I.
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  Speaker 6: Can report today that the DNA hits from the towel
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  Speaker 6: that was rap around the firearm and the DNA on
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  Speaker 6: the screwdriver are positively processed for the suspect in custody.
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  Speaker 3: There it is Cashpattel telling you that not only did
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  Speaker 3: these suspects tal that wrapped around the assassin's weapon match
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  Speaker 3: the screwdriver left on the UVA rooftop, both matched the
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  Speaker 3: suspect already in custody. This is incredible work, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: by the men and women in law enforcement. Robinson, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, also were a note saying declaring that he
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  Speaker 3: had an opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and that
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  Speaker 3: he was going to take it. Patel went on to
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  Speaker 3: say as well, saying quote, we have since learned the note,
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  Speaker 3: even though it was destroyed, we have found forensic evidence
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  Speaker 3: of the note and we have confirmed that the said
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  Speaker 3: what the note said. Because our aggressive interview posture at
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  Speaker 3: the FBI. We also know that further DNA found on
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  Speaker 3: the thirty caliber bolt action rifle with a scope believed
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  Speaker 3: to have been used in the shooting is still being
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  Speaker 3: analyzed to determine its links to Robinson as well. Patel
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  Speaker 3: also confirmed that Robinson is still not co operating with investigators.
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  Speaker 3: I got to say, I am very thankful for cash Hotel,
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  Speaker 3: for Dan Bongino, for all of the men and women
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  Speaker 3: in law enforcement that have been working on this case
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  Speaker 3: at the local, state, at the federal level. What they
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  Speaker 3: were able to do to find him, and what they've
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  Speaker 3: been able to do to make it very clear he did.
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  Speaker 3: What he did is incredible police work. God bless him
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  Speaker 3: for what they're doing. And God blessed Donald Trump, by
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  Speaker 3: the way, for making sure that he picked the right
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  Speaker 3: people for these jobs.
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