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Dems Hold America's National Security Hostage Over Ukraine Funding · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: There is a big funding battle that is happening right
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Speaker 1: now in Washington, d C. And it deals with securing
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Speaker 1: our border and funding for Ukraine. There is a lot
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Speaker 1: of people saying a lot of things about this funding battle,
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Speaker 1: and I want to make sure you understand the strategy
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Speaker 1: here and why Republicans are tying the two together. I
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Speaker 1: am one of those that says we should definitely stand
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Speaker 1: up to Russia. I'm also one of those that believes
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Speaker 1: that giving a country like Ukraine, which is more corrupt
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Speaker 1: than Russia historically, is you don't give them a blank check.
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Speaker 1: The amount of money that's being funneled out of that
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Speaker 1: country and into the coffers, into the bank accounts of
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Speaker 1: people like Zelenski and his family and friends is massive.
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Speaker 1: I also want you to understand that, and I also
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Speaker 1: want a ROI I want to return honor damn investment.
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Speaker 1: And right now we look at best like we're installmate.
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Speaker 1: It doesn't look good. That is another thing that really, really,
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Speaker 1: really really bothers me about what's happening right now. So
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Speaker 1: you combine all those things together, it doesn't mean that
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Speaker 1: I want to abandon Ukraine. It means that I want
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Speaker 1: more accountability for my dollars going to Ukraine. Right, That's
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Speaker 1: something else that people really need to understand. There have
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Speaker 1: been people within the government in Ukraine that have already
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Speaker 1: been fired over the last six months for corruption. This
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Speaker 1: is what is actually happening on the ground there now.
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Speaker 1: When I went over to Budapest and met with the
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Speaker 1: leadership of the government, including Victor Orban, one of the
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Speaker 1: things that they explained to me as I was sitting
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Speaker 1: with them and they talked about is they go, guys,
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Speaker 1: you guys think that Russia is the most corrupt government
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Speaker 1: in this part of the world. And they laughed, They're like,
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Speaker 1: you're wrong, it's actually not. It's Ukraine. For decades centuries,
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Speaker 1: Ukraine has been an insanely corrupt country.
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Speaker 2: There are two sets of laws there.
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Speaker 1: There are the laws and the books, and there's you
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Speaker 1: got to get me some cash to get what you
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Speaker 1: need type of mentality with that government. It's an incredibly
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Speaker 1: corrupt country. It's incredibly an insanely corrupt government. Now, let
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Speaker 1: me also tell you one of the other things that
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Speaker 1: they exposed to me when I was over there, and
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Speaker 1: they showed it to me and showed details about this
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Speaker 1: that was truly mind blowing the oligarchs and those that
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Speaker 1: are in the government, their families are safe. Their families
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Speaker 1: are in Warsaw, staying in five star resorts and hotels.
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Speaker 1: And guess who's paying for that?
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Speaker 2: You and I are.
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Speaker 1: The amount of money that's actually hitting the battlefield compared
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Speaker 1: to what's going into the coffers of family and friends
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Speaker 1: of government officials is some have even had its seventy
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Speaker 1: to eighty percent.
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Speaker 2: So I want you to think about that.
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Speaker 1: Why should we be sending all this money if the
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Speaker 1: money's actually not going to defeat the Russians. And that's
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Speaker 1: another part of this conversation that we should we should
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Speaker 1: genuinely be having this conversation. I'm not in favor of
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Speaker 1: a blank check indefinitely to anybody or Anyone's also something
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Speaker 1: else that should be brought up here.
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Speaker 2: In fact, no one should.
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Speaker 1: There's also a part about this money that bothers me
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Speaker 1: from the standpoint that we don't have this money. This
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Speaker 1: money doesn't exist. We are borrowing this money. Let me
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Speaker 1: say that again. We are borrowing this money. The money
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Speaker 1: that we're talking about right now is being borrowed. We're
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Speaker 1: paying eight percent interest, nine percent interest, seven percent interest
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Speaker 1: on the money that we're giving to Ukraine. So we
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Speaker 1: are actually going into debt. Okay, we are going into
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Speaker 1: debt to borrow this money that we don't have, and
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Speaker 1: we're paying interest on this money because of the simplistic idea,
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Speaker 1: As a country, for far too long, we have just
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Speaker 1: decided that, Okay, what we'll do is we'll say, hey,
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Speaker 1: you got my money, do with it what you want.
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Speaker 1: We trust you. That's not working. The abuse of our
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Speaker 1: tax dollars is incredible. The fact that we are spending
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Speaker 1: more then we bring in every single moment of every
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Speaker 1: single day also tells you how much these politicians don't
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Speaker 1: give a rats are in about our future, our kid's future,
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Speaker 1: and really the future of this country. Because a country
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Speaker 1: in massive debt, trillions of dollars in debt, is a
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Speaker 1: country that will be destroyed. Now, it's clear that Democrats
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Speaker 1: don't care if they destroy this country. In fact, it's
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Speaker 1: their motivation, it's their obligation. Now they are Marxists. The
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Speaker 1: Democratic Party is dead. They're communists and socialists. They want
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Speaker 1: this country to go broke because it's easier to remake
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Speaker 1: a country that has gone broke than it is to
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Speaker 1: stand with a country that is prosperous.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you went to the American people and said, hey,
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Speaker 1: while we're a prosperous nation, we desperately, desperately, desperately want
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Speaker 1: you right to change the socialism and communism, the appetite
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Speaker 1: for that would be like nothing, Right, the appetite for
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Speaker 1: that would be zero. No one would want that, or
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Speaker 1: the majority wouldn't for the basic reason they're like, hey,
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Speaker 1: we're doing great, why would we want to change.
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Speaker 2: However, if things.
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Speaker 1: Are really really really really bad, right, and things are
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Speaker 1: going really really badly for a nation, and we are
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Speaker 1: upside down in debt. You can fundamentally change a country,
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Speaker 1: you can fundamentally destroy a nation like that. That's something
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Speaker 1: that you can absolutely do. And so Democrats, I don't
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Speaker 1: believe mind at all. They don't mind. And really, I
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Speaker 1: would say, in any capacity, destroying America with an insane
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Speaker 1: amount of debt like that's something that they just don't mind.
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Speaker 1: So you put that in perspective with all the money
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Speaker 1: we're spending out and spending in Ukraine and the government's
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Speaker 1: spending that's out of control, and you understand a little
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Speaker 1: bit more. So let's bring us now to this fight
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Speaker 1: and explain to you why Republicans are fighting this fight
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Speaker 1: the way they are, which is a smart strategy. They're saying, Look,
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Speaker 1: we're not saying that we abandon Ukraine. We're not saying
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Speaker 1: we give in and allow Vladimir Putin to win.
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Speaker 2: Right. I think that's a very very very very very
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Speaker 2: important point that.
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Speaker 1: Must be made. We're not saying that we support him.
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Speaker 1: We're not saying we're walking away. We're not saying we
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Speaker 1: want you to just sit there and die. What we
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Speaker 1: are saying is we want there to be real and
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Speaker 1: authentic accountability for our tax dollars that are going to you.
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Speaker 1: There's also something else. Why are we sending dollars to
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Speaker 1: Ukraine when we're not even securing our own border and
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Speaker 1: more than eight million people have cross that border illegally
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Speaker 1: since Joe Biden has been president. So that's another aspect
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Speaker 1: of this that I think really has to be talked about, okay.
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Speaker 2: And then there's another part of this.
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Speaker 1: If the president it's America, refuses to secure the border,
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Speaker 1: and that's quickly been the policy of Joe Biden in
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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, then when there's something that they want,
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Speaker 1: which is to send more money to Ukraine. And we
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Speaker 1: haven't even gotten into the Biden corruption in Ukraine and
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Speaker 1: part of the reason why I think we're saying this
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Speaker 1: money and I'll deal with that in a second, okay,
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Speaker 1: But if this is where we are when it comes
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Speaker 1: to the corruption with Ukraine, then we have to tie
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Speaker 1: to get what we want to something that the Democrats
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Speaker 1: desperately want, and that's funding going to Ukraine. And that's
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Speaker 1: the difference here right like that for me is the
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Speaker 1: point that really needs to be made that. That's the
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Speaker 1: point that I think is extremely important. That also that
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Speaker 1: must be made here is that you have to make
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Speaker 1: sure that we secure our border. And if you guys
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Speaker 1: want this Ukrainian funding which you're obsessed with, which you
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Speaker 1: absolutely must have, have no matter what it all costs.
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Speaker 1: And that's been what you've been saying over and over again. Fine,
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Speaker 1: we're going to tie the two together. Put your money
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Speaker 1: where your mouth is. You want the money for Ukraine,
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Speaker 1: then give us a secure border, which, by the way,
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Speaker 1: is already in our constitution. It's already in our laws.
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Speaker 1: They're refusing to abide by our laws. And that's the
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Speaker 1: problem here, is the fact that they're refusing to abide
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Speaker 1: by the laws that we currently have.
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Speaker 2: That's the problem here.
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Speaker 1: Now, with that being said, I want you to hear
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Speaker 1: the Speaker of the House, Johnson saying this about the
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Speaker 1: talks after the meeting he had with Zelensky. Because Zlensky's
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Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill, he's there begging for money. Democrats are
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Speaker 1: rolling out the red carpet. Some Rhino Republicans and warhawk
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Speaker 1: Republicans are also rolling out the red carpet for Zelensky.
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Speaker 1: They're ready to give him that blank check that he wants. Remember,
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of people in Washington, DC that love war.
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Speaker 1: War is good for business, War is good for defense contract.
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Speaker 1: War is good for their family and friends that are
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Speaker 1: in the defense business. And if we're having to send
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Speaker 1: massive amounts of m inventory right and Ammo and other things,
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Speaker 1: that means we're buying replacement pieces for it, which means
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Speaker 1: their friends are getting paid. Also, if the money is
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Speaker 1: going to Ukraine, and then the money has to is
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Speaker 1: being spent for weaponry that goes back into companies that
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Speaker 1: have lobbied the US government that works for them. They
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Speaker 1: don't care if the check's coming from Ukraine because of
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Speaker 1: a check from America or if the check's coming directly
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Speaker 1: from America, as long as the dollars hit their bank
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Speaker 1: account and they're selling their product, which is right, weapons
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Speaker 1: of war. Game on for all of them involved. This
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Speaker 1: is where the corruption comes in. So listen to Speaker
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Speaker 1: Johnson talking after his meeting with Zolenski.
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Speaker 3: My state of Louisiana, fentanyl is the leading cause of
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Speaker 3: death for Americans age eighteen to forty nine in this country.
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Speaker 3: Fentyl poisoning. Because it's allowed over the border. We have
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Speaker 3: human traficking and all the other terrible things. In the
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Speaker 3: last three months October and November December alone, we've had
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Speaker 3: more illegal crossings at the border than in any entire
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Speaker 3: year during the Obama administration. The American people see this,
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Speaker 3: they feel it acutely. They see all the terrible societal
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Speaker 3: ills that come from this, and it must be addressed.
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Speaker 3: So I've made this very clear again from the very
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Speaker 3: beginning when I was hand of the gabble. We needed
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Speaker 3: clarity on what we're doing in Ukraine and how we'll
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Speaker 3: have proper oversight of the spending of precious taxpayer dollars
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Speaker 3: in the American citizens, and we needed a transformative change
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Speaker 3: at the border. Thus far, we've gotten neither. The Senate
12:37
Speaker 3: has been mia on this. The House passed HR two
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Speaker 3: six months ago. More than six months ago. It's been
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Speaker 3: sitting and collecting dust on Chuck Schumer's desk. I have
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Speaker 3: told him personally, I've told the National Security Advisor, the
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Speaker 3: Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, that these are
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Speaker 3: our conditions, because these are the conditions of the American people,
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Speaker 3: and we are resolute on that. It is not the
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Speaker 3: House's issue right now. The issue is with the White
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Speaker 3: House and the Senate, and I implore them to do
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Speaker 3: their job because the time is urgent and we do
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Speaker 3: want to do the right thing here with that.
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Speaker 1: So he's saying, hey, let me remind you for six
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Speaker 1: months they've been sitting on this bill to secure our
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Speaker 1: border and they refuse to touch it, and it's collecting
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Speaker 1: dust on Chuck Schumer's desk.
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Speaker 2: That is a fact.
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Speaker 1: So if you want to blame somebody for this funding stopping,
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Speaker 1: and remember Zolensky in Ukraine, they're all up Joe Biden's
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Speaker 1: we're in because I'm pretty sure they haven't compromised based
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Speaker 1: on what we know from about his son and what
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Speaker 1: happened with this energy company in Ukraine, Barisma and everything else.
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Speaker 1: So I have no doubt there is some real corruption
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Speaker 1: there that obviously should be talked about, and that's outside
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Speaker 1: of even this. But I think the point that Johnson's
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Speaker 1: making there is, hey, we're time these two together, and
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Speaker 1: if you don't like it, then take up our bill
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Speaker 1: and deal with our bill. And if you're not going
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Speaker 1: to do it, then this is what we're going to do.
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Speaker 1: We're not going to sit here and let you do
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Speaker 1: this to us. The other part is when will this stop?
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Speaker 2: Okay?
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Speaker 1: Zolensky said this about Ukraine's government the White House earlier.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen.
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Speaker 4: Yesterday, I match with the CIMF and World Bank, and
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Speaker 4: it's impressed with the Ukraine's economy grows almost five percent,
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Speaker 4: and that's significant. Ukraine is gradually becoming a less depend
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Speaker 4: on age and we are moving to the right I
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Speaker 4: think right through direction, and I want to discuss with
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Speaker 4: the President how to strengthen it.
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Speaker 2: How did strengthen Okay?
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Speaker 1: So Zolensky's saying Ukraine's economy economic growth is almost five percent.
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Speaker 2: The number one question I have for him is since when? Okay?
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Speaker 1: Because if you're comparing it to when your economy completely
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Speaker 1: shut down when the war started, that's really not that impressive.
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Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two he's saying, that means we're
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Speaker 1: moving towards sustainability, right, less dependent on aid, on foreign
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Speaker 1: eight on American aid right. And so he says, I
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Speaker 1: want to discuss with President Biden how to strengthen aid.
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Speaker 1: So he's saying I need your money while saying I
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Speaker 1: may not need your money for that long, but how long?
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Speaker 1: So if your economic growth is almost five percent, the
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Speaker 1: question that I would ask for is Zelenski. If you're
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Speaker 1: a good president of United States of America and this isn't
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Speaker 1: a political question, Hey, how long are you going to
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Speaker 1: need this money?
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Speaker 2: Bro? And how many years are we talking about? Here?
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Speaker 2: Are weeks or months or days?
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Speaker 1: And then I need better transparency because I know you've
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Speaker 1: got some really shady, bad actors who are siphoning this
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Speaker 1: money off when we send it over to you. I'm
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Speaker 1: not a big fan of just blank checks. I am
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Speaker 1: a fan of sending him what he needs to fight
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Speaker 1: the Russians if you can at least have more control
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Speaker 1: over that military hardware and ammunition.
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Speaker 2: But even that, they'll figure out a way.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure to steal some of that and sell it
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Speaker 1: on the black market because.
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Speaker 2: This is Ukraine and they are corrupt.
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Speaker 1: I also have one other question, when are you going
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Speaker 1: to start having your elections again? Because this dictator Zolensky
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Speaker 1: has canceled the elections. While he's telling you that they're
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Speaker 1: moving forward with five percent economic growth, he's saying that
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Speaker 1: they can't afford to have an election, So he's now
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Speaker 1: a dictator. We are enabling and supporting an advocating for
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Speaker 1: a straight up dictator period. Now, Zelenski is obviously, as
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Speaker 1: I said, I think a dictator a tyrant. He won't
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Speaker 1: have elections, but he tells you his economy is getting stronger,
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Speaker 1: so therefore you should get money because it's not going
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Speaker 1: to be forever. Wink, wink, nod, nod. He's got a
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Speaker 1: lot of useful idiots that are on his side to
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Speaker 1: continue to be a dictator to the people of Ukraine
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Speaker 1: and not hold elections. In fact, just so you understand
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Speaker 1: how arrogant Zelensky is. Zelensky was asked about canceling yet
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Speaker 1: another set of elections. You know, he said, he goes,
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Speaker 1: if you want to pay for it, you can have
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Speaker 1: an election. We don't have the money if a foreign
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Speaker 1: government wants to pay for the elections, and there's no,
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Speaker 1: by the way, reason to believe that these elections would
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Speaker 1: be fair anyway.
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Speaker 2: But just forget that for a second.
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Speaker 1: He saying, you want us to have an election, pay
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Speaker 1: for it, because we're not as a country. That's what
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Speaker 1: a dictator would say, right, we're at a time of war,
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Speaker 1: we can't have an election. Well, if the war's going
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Speaker 1: to go on for years, then maybe you actually could
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Speaker 1: have an election and in the middle of this war,
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Speaker 1: shouldn't people decide if they want a different leader instead
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Speaker 1: of being stuck with the one that got him into
17:22
Speaker 1: the war in the first place. That's that's also another
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Speaker 1: part of this equation. But his point is, Look, I'm
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Speaker 1: not paying for an election, and why would he Why
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Speaker 1: would Zelenski pay for an election. He's a dictator right
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Speaker 1: now with reason to act like he's not, cover to
17:40
Speaker 1: act like he's not. And then he's getting to Deciphon
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Speaker 1: off as much Cassie wants as he wants. Here's the
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Speaker 1: other part about the useful idiots that are behind him.
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Speaker 1: Look no further than Democratic Senater Kelly all Right. Kelly
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Speaker 1: literally struggled to define what victory would look like for Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: He was asked about this as they were waiting for
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Speaker 1: Zelenski to appear from the White House meetings. He's the
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Speaker 1: Democratic surrogate. He's out there advocating for us going to
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Speaker 1: even more debt by and get more money to Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: And listen to the fact that this senator who's leading
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Speaker 1: the charge for funding can't even define what does a
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Speaker 1: victory even look like for Ukraine?
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Speaker 2: Sir.
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Speaker 5: One objection from those Republican colleagues you mentioned is that
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Speaker 5: there's no clear endgame for Ukraine. The White House says
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Speaker 5: that this is Ukraine's war, that they should define what
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Speaker 5: victory looks like. But Zelenski even appears to be in
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Speaker 5: disagreement with his own generals over the approach. The counter
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Speaker 5: offensive also has not met expectations. In your mind, what
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Speaker 5: does an obtainable victory look like in Ukraine? Is it
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Speaker 5: the retaking of Crimea.
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Speaker 6: Well, there will be a clear winner and loser in
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Speaker 6: this conflict. I mean everybody needs to understand that. I mean,
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Speaker 6: there will be an end to this, and we need
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Speaker 6: to make sure that the Ukrainians win. I mean, if
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Speaker 6: we let Plue and take over Ukraine, he's going to
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Speaker 6: set his sights on another target, and the target could
19:05
Speaker 6: be a Baltic country, it could be Poland, it will
19:07
Speaker 6: be a NATO ally, and then we wind up in
19:09
Speaker 6: a situation where we're going to have to defend our allies,
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Speaker 6: and that means committing combat troops. We have eliminated by
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Speaker 6: helping Ukraine a lot of the combat capacity of Russia
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Speaker 6: and the Ukrainian people have fought really, really hard. I
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Speaker 6: met some of them when I've been to Ukraine twice
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Speaker 6: this year. A young woman who made this compelling case
19:32
Speaker 6: for getting F sixteen's to me personally, I worked on that.
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Speaker 6: They now have F sixteen pilots training in Arizona. They're
19:39
Speaker 6: learning how to bring this platform into the fight. We
19:43
Speaker 6: can't let the dysfunction in Washington prevent us from doing
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Speaker 6: what's right.
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Speaker 5: That point is taken. However, I'm still short on the
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Speaker 5: specifics of what victory looks like. Do you think it's
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Speaker 5: Ukraine retaking Crimea because it doesn't seem like there's the
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Speaker 5: political will to get them the kind of aid that
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Speaker 5: they would need to do that.
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Speaker 6: Well, let's start with them not losing. I mean, if
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Speaker 6: they lose, you're talking about the deaths of thousands, if
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Speaker 6: not tens of thousands of more.
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Speaker 1: By the way, can we just pause there. Let's start
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Speaker 1: with them not losing. Let's start with them not losing.
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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the question. I have the transcript here,
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Speaker 1: and I want to really dissect this quote. I'm still
20:25
Speaker 1: sure on the specifics of what victory looks like. Do
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Speaker 1: you think and this is again going to a Senator
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Speaker 1: Mark Kelly. He's on the Armed Services Committee, he's a
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Speaker 1: Democrat obsessed with this Ukrainian war. Again, I'm still short
20:38
Speaker 1: on the specifics of what victory looks like. Do you
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Speaker 1: think it's Ukraine retaking Crimea because it doesn't seem like
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Speaker 1: there's the political will to get them the kind of
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Speaker 1: aid that you would need to do that. Kelly, it's
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Speaker 1: a senator spending your tax hour saying, quote, well, let's
20:55
Speaker 1: start with them not losing. I mean, if they lose,
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Speaker 1: you're talking about the deaths of thousand and then listen
21:01
Speaker 1: to the rest of his answer here, which is totally
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Speaker 1: just bananas foreign policy.
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Speaker 6: Or Ukrainians and their families. The Russians have stolen children.
21:12
Speaker 6: I mean, that's not who we are to let that
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Speaker 6: happen to one of our allies. This thing has not
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Speaker 6: gone exactly as we would have liked. But if you
21:21
Speaker 6: go back two years, we thought Russia was going to
21:24
Speaker 6: run through this country in a matter of just days
21:27
Speaker 6: or weeks. They have not done that, and with our support,
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Speaker 6: we can help them fight back against this dictator. We
21:35
Speaker 6: cannot give Plutin this Christmas present. I mean, he's looking
21:39
Speaker 6: for this, he's waiting. He even commented on what happened
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Speaker 6: here last week. You know, when we started, it seemed
21:47
Speaker 6: like we had some trouble here. And you know who
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Speaker 6: else is watching this. It's the Chinese president, you know,
21:53
Speaker 6: the leadership in Iran, the dictator in North Korea. They're
21:57
Speaker 6: watching what's happening here. And if we fail, if we
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Speaker 6: fail in this moment, you know, I think history is
22:03
Speaker 6: not going to judge us.
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Speaker 1: Well, all right now, let me blow that argument out
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Speaker 1: the out of the just complete water. He's saying that
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Speaker 1: you must do this, advocate this, support this, because if
22:16
Speaker 1: you don't, these other dictators and tyrants are watching right
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Speaker 1: now and they're going to learn. Well, if that was
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Speaker 1: the case, and explain to me our withdrawal from Afghanistan,
22:26
Speaker 1: and what do they learn from that scenario? Can someone
22:30
Speaker 1: answer me that questions? Serious question? Can you answer me
22:35
Speaker 1: that question? Because they learned that America will cut and
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Speaker 1: run and take orders from actual terrorists in in Afghanistan.
22:48
Speaker 1: So this idea, now that we have a moral obligation
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Speaker 1: to do this because if we don't do it, then
22:55
Speaker 1: somehow the world's going to spend even more chaos, is
22:58
Speaker 1: total insanity because because if that was the case, then
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Speaker 1: we would have never pulled out on an arbitrary anniversary
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Speaker 1: of nine to eleven, and we would have never pulled out,
23:10
Speaker 1: never pulled out of Afghanistan the way that we did.
23:13
Speaker 1: Yet that's exactly what we did. And why do you
23:16
Speaker 1: think that Russia moved into Ukraine? The reason why they
23:21
Speaker 1: did it, folks, is actually really simple. The reason why
23:27
Speaker 1: they did is because they realized that America had become
23:30
Speaker 1: a paper tiger and that Joe Biden wasn't going to
23:33
Speaker 1: do jack crap to really stop them. In fact, we
23:36
Speaker 1: really haven't done much to stop them so far. Just
23:39
Speaker 1: to put it in perspective for you, Okay, we actually haven't.
23:44
Speaker 2: We've said a bunch of money.
23:46
Speaker 1: We've loaded the coffers of Ukrainian oligarchs, and that's another problem.
23:51
Speaker 1: And people are really excited about that, like they love
23:56
Speaker 1: that that has happened, that we have loaded the coffers
23:59
Speaker 1: of these people in ukrain especially the Democratic side. But
24:01
Speaker 1: this also goes back to the bigger, bigger, bigger, bigger issue.
24:07
Speaker 1: Ukraine is taking our dollars and they're funneling it to
24:10
Speaker 1: their family and their friends. First, then they're fighting a
24:14
Speaker 1: war second, okay, Second, they love the money that's coming
24:21
Speaker 1: in from US, and the Ukraine. I'm not really sure
24:25
Speaker 1: Ukraine's trying to win this war. I think they're learning
24:28
Speaker 1: to just kind of live with this war. And I'm
24:29
Speaker 1: talking about the leadership. I'm not talking about the soldiers.
24:31
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the front lines. I'm talking about
24:34
Speaker 1: the people in charge in Ukraine. Because this is the
24:37
Speaker 1: greatest way to have a massive influx of dollars coming
24:44
Speaker 1: into your country at a level that you could have
24:46
Speaker 1: never imagined before without a war taking place. And that's
24:52
Speaker 1: a fact, Like that's just very clear. So when people
24:59
Speaker 1: say to me, I had a debate today with Piers
25:01
Speaker 1: Morgan on his TV show, and he's like, I never
25:03
Speaker 1: thought I would have seen today when Republicans were against
25:07
Speaker 1: fighting Russia. That's not what I've said. I'm in favor
25:12
Speaker 1: of fighting Russia. I'm not in favor of enriching the
25:17
Speaker 1: lives of corrupt oligarchs in Ukraine under disguise of fighting Russia.
25:24
Speaker 1: I'm also not in favor of borrowing money to send
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Speaker 1: it to Ukraine, which is then being embezzled by the
25:32
Speaker 1: people in Ukraine in leadership, while we also aren't protecting
25:37
Speaker 1: our own southern border, which goes back to exactly what
25:41
Speaker 1: we were talking.
25:41
Speaker 2: About a moment ago.
25:44
Speaker 1: I am completely in favor of having a bill that
25:48
Speaker 1: says fined as some Ukrainian funding as long as you
25:52
Speaker 1: are also securing our southern border at the same time.
25:57
Speaker 1: I'm in favor of that also. So do not believe
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Speaker 1: that the Democrats will go for that. And the reason
26:05
Speaker 1: why is because it's not about beating Russia. It's about
26:09
Speaker 1: funneling money into Ukraine. They're against securing our southern border
26:15
Speaker 1: because they want to fundamentally change this country, radically change
26:19
Speaker 1: this country. Look at the housing numbers for a second
26:22
Speaker 1: and look at how much they are connected to what's
26:25
Speaker 1: happening in our economy. The numbers that have come out
26:28
Speaker 1: I mentioned this on the show a couple of days ago,
26:30
Speaker 1: are showing that home ownership at this point right now
26:34
Speaker 1: is veach is basically not an option for a significant
26:41
Speaker 1: portion of younger people in America due to the high
26:44
Speaker 1: prices Number one, okay, due to the high prices most
26:48
Speaker 1: importantly of the houses, on top of the interest rates
26:52
Speaker 1: that have exploded under the Biden administration. So why are
26:58
Speaker 1: we spending all this money that's making our inflation go
27:01
Speaker 1: even higher, our debt go even higher, our interest rates
27:05
Speaker 1: going even higher, when we obviously can't afford to be
27:09
Speaker 1: sending this money to Ukraine. And then the second thing
27:13
Speaker 1: is why are we punishing American homeowners or prospective homeowners,
27:16
Speaker 1: Because when you have eight million people come across the
27:19
Speaker 1: border illegally under the Biden administration, they're buying up houses,
27:24
Speaker 1: and they're competing with millions of Americans for affordable places
27:30
Speaker 1: to live that would include rent, affordable places to rent.
27:36
Speaker 1: That's part of the problem here. And I'm tired of
27:41
Speaker 1: funding these foreign wars without a definition of victory, what
27:46
Speaker 1: success looks like. And they've figured it out. They get it,
27:52
Speaker 1: they understand it. They're playing us. They've been playing us
27:57
Speaker 1: for years. Every time again these wars, the rich get
28:01
Speaker 1: richer who invest in this, and then the little guy
28:05
Speaker 1: gets hurt, Our American citizens get hurt. How many times
28:08
Speaker 1: our own lives are lost? Right, don't forget that, Okay,
28:12
Speaker 1: don't do not forget that? Okay, many many, many, many, many, many,
28:17
Speaker 1: many many times. Okay, many times our men and women
28:23
Speaker 1: in uniform die because of some of these wars that
28:26
Speaker 1: go on forever and ever. I don't want to put
28:30
Speaker 1: troops in Ukraine that's also been one of the things
28:33
Speaker 1: that's been said recently. One of the things that they
28:36
Speaker 1: said recently was that they believe, okay, that if you
28:40
Speaker 1: don't give the funding they need now, that American soldiers
28:42
Speaker 1: are going to have to go and fight later on.
28:45
Speaker 1: If that's not a gun to your head. And I
28:47
Speaker 1: don't play that game either, and neither should you. Make
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