Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Creamalicious gourmet Ice Cream Executive Chef Liz Rogers talks about being the only African American-owned national ice cream brand in mass production
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- 2:11Speaker 1: next guest is an entrepreneur. Her name is Liz Rogers.
- 2:14Speaker 1: She's the executive chef and CEO of the cream Elicious
- 2:17Speaker 1: brand that's right, cream Alicious brand. I might already own
- 2:20Speaker 1: business that is implementing their innovative approach to dessert category.
- 2:24Speaker 1: We're talking about ice cream. Y'all ice cream, everybody, I
- 2:27Speaker 1: love ice cream? Ice cream? Chef I don't know, get excited.
- 2:31Speaker 1: I'm sorry, let me calm down. Chef le Rogers honed
- 2:34Speaker 1: her passion for cooking and cooking for others growing up
- 2:36Speaker 1: in the Cleveland on High area, you know, Steve Harvard Country,
- 2:39Speaker 1: under the watchful eye of her mother and grandmother. She
- 2:43Speaker 1: prides herself on being truly innovative with a two and
- 2:46Speaker 1: one desserts that pair fresh based pastries with homemade ice cream,
- 2:50Speaker 1: made with only the freshest agreements please working to money
- 2:54Speaker 1: making conversations. I met her in person, she drove down,
- 2:56Speaker 1: gave me something that ice cream in person. Then I
- 2:58Speaker 1: all just saw him online. The Queen of ice cream,
- 3:01Speaker 1: that's what I call the Queen of ice cream. MS
- 3:04Speaker 1: Cream Elicious herself, Liz Rogers, How you don't list, I'm great,
- 3:08Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me today. Cool Liz
- 3:12Speaker 1: um ice cream? Why ice cream? Ice cream is the
- 3:15Speaker 1: world's number one dessert. Ice Cream makes people happy. It
- 3:19Speaker 1: brings the world together. You know, we don't have to,
- 3:22Speaker 1: you know, wonder what it is or what it tastes like.
- 3:24Speaker 1: We just know that it's good. So ice cream just
- 3:27Speaker 1: brings everybody together, so you can do so many whimsical
- 3:30Speaker 1: things with it and just be as innovative as you
- 3:33Speaker 1: want to be. Well, you know the word innovative. Now,
- 3:35Speaker 1: you know. I'm just I'm just gonna tell you, I'm
- 3:37Speaker 1: just a guy who eats the ice cream. Okay, there's
- 3:40Speaker 1: certain ice cream don't really like. I'm not doing trash
- 3:42Speaker 1: and it ice cream that I don't like, but I'm
- 3:45Speaker 1: a big fan of a certain ice Cread come from Texas,
- 3:47Speaker 1: which is Bluebell ice cream country, so I kind of
- 3:50Speaker 1: like grew up on blue Bell ice cream. And then
- 3:53Speaker 1: you came to town Atlanta, Georgia. That's my town with
- 3:56Speaker 1: your cream elicious ice cream, you know, just out of
- 3:59Speaker 1: the blue. A friend of mine from Los Angeles recommended
- 4:01Speaker 1: I should eat your ice cream and outstanding ice cream
- 4:06Speaker 1: was outstanding? Liz, But you, but you, but you, But
- 4:10Speaker 1: you knew that though, but you you you you have
- 4:13Speaker 1: the confidence in yourself to know you have a top
- 4:15Speaker 1: of the line brand. Correct. Well, I'm an executive chef
- 4:19Speaker 1: by trade and restaurateur, and I really wanted to make
- 4:23Speaker 1: sure that I worked with the top food scientists in
- 4:26Speaker 1: the country to um just really bring my brand to light.
- 4:30Speaker 1: I am like, I really did not want to go
- 4:34Speaker 1: in and put my label on a private label, someone
- 4:38Speaker 1: else's brand. I really wanted to create my own intellectual property,
- 4:44Speaker 1: things and formulas that would be proprietary to Cream Malicious.
- 4:47Speaker 1: So I wanted to make sure that ice cream was
- 4:49Speaker 1: extremely creamy. I wanted to make sure that all the
- 4:52Speaker 1: pastries and the crust and everything was exactly the texture
- 4:56Speaker 1: that it needed to be and it wasn't soggy. So
- 4:59Speaker 1: there was just a lot of time and a lot
- 5:02Speaker 1: of thought and a lot of research that went into
- 5:04Speaker 1: creating the ice cream before uh, this brand was actually
- 5:08Speaker 1: created and able to go on the shelf. Now, before
- 5:11Speaker 1: we get more detail about about your Crew Delicious brand,
- 5:14Speaker 1: there's always a journey to get here. You know, four generations.
- 5:18Speaker 1: You know, we mentioned your mom and your grandmother talk
- 5:20Speaker 1: about that relationship that led you to the life of
- 5:23Speaker 1: being an executive chef. And I'm the oldest of four,
- 5:29Speaker 1: so I'm the big sister. I have three brothers, and
- 5:32Speaker 1: my mom was a single parent. She was a welder,
- 5:35Speaker 1: and so she taught me how to cook, and I
- 5:37Speaker 1: used to cook for my brothers and take care of
- 5:39Speaker 1: them while she was at work. And so the really
- 5:41Speaker 1: cool thing was I spent a lot of time with
- 5:43Speaker 1: my grandmother, and I noticed she made just everything from
- 5:47Speaker 1: scratch as well. She just really made a lot of
- 5:49Speaker 1: things from scratch. And we would make up stuff like
- 5:52Speaker 1: pound cake and make jello and and top the pound
- 5:55Speaker 1: cake with the jello with some wood cream, just gave
- 5:58Speaker 1: it a lot of different textures and flavors and just
- 6:00Speaker 1: you know, we just did whatever we wanted to do.
- 6:02Speaker 1: And that was my opportunity to really spend time with
- 6:05Speaker 1: my family and my mom and my grandmother and just
- 6:08Speaker 1: really just build a bond. And that was our way
- 6:11Speaker 1: of communicating love. And it's it's just full of amazing
- 6:14Speaker 1: memories for the both of them. Pound cake topic with
- 6:19Speaker 1: jello and whipped cream, Girl, that sounds pretty good to me.
- 6:25Speaker 1: It's just a light, delicious dessert. So it wasn't heavy
- 6:28Speaker 1: and it was flavorful. So you you do the strawberry
- 6:31Speaker 1: jello on top of a butter pound cake and some
- 6:33Speaker 1: whipped cream, and it was just something we made that.
- 6:37Speaker 1: You know, we would sit on the porch when it rained.
- 6:38Speaker 1: My grandmother she uh, she she loved like all these plants.
- 6:43Speaker 1: She had a green thumb, you know, and we would
- 6:45Speaker 1: sit there while it rained, and you know, on the
- 6:48Speaker 1: porch with like a thousand plants and eating this little
- 6:50Speaker 1: dessert and it. It may not be much today, but
- 6:53Speaker 1: back then, it was just a really big deal for me. Well,
- 6:57Speaker 1: it's a big deal to me right now because I'm
- 6:59Speaker 1: trying to figure out how get Yeah. Well, the cool
- 7:03Speaker 1: thing about is you have history and food. Now, you
- 7:06Speaker 1: had a very popular restaurant in Hamilton, Ohio lived with
- 7:08Speaker 1: the name of it was Mahogany. Now, now, what type
- 7:11Speaker 1: of restaurant was that in the Ohio area? Tell me
- 7:14Speaker 1: a little background on that. Mahogany. Mahogany's was like a
- 7:17Speaker 1: Southern cuisine restaurant. We made everything from scratch, but it
- 7:21Speaker 1: really um we we really we could give you an
- 7:24Speaker 1: amazing plate of food, but it really was about the experiences.
- 7:26Speaker 1: We had karaoke, live entertainment. It was very intimate, very small.
- 7:32Speaker 1: Uh kitchen was probably smaller than a submarine kitchen, I feel,
- 7:35Speaker 1: but we did so many things out of there. And
- 7:38Speaker 1: I think the big thing was we knew all of
- 7:40Speaker 1: our customers names. We were able to provide just this
- 7:44Speaker 1: amazing welcoming experience and people would come there and eat
- 7:48Speaker 1: and it was almost like you were eating out of
- 7:50Speaker 1: your mom or your grandmother's kitchen because that's how we cooked.
- 7:54Speaker 1: So we peeled our our yams, we didn't cook any
- 7:57Speaker 1: yams out of the can. We picked our collar greens, um,
- 8:00Speaker 1: we smoked our wings. We had amazing dry rubs, and
- 8:04Speaker 1: it was just a real good experience and you never
- 8:07Speaker 1: knew who you were going to meet when you came there,
- 8:09Speaker 1: and you just felt like you were home. Now, when
- 8:12Speaker 1: you have something like that, it feels it's more of
- 8:14Speaker 1: a passion tied to the bottom line. But you're an
- 8:18Speaker 1: opportunity to the move to a new location. Now, why
- 8:21Speaker 1: did you make that move? Because that new location it
- 8:25Speaker 1: sounded like a good idea, but it turned out not
- 8:27Speaker 1: to be the right idea. Correct. You know, as an entrepreneur,
- 8:31Speaker 1: you know you you want to see your your brands
- 8:34Speaker 1: make it. You want to see everything expand, and Um
- 8:37Speaker 1: a year and a half after being open um we
- 8:39Speaker 1: became a really big destination. So it was Mahogany's in
- 8:43Speaker 1: Hamilton's was in a very small area, residential area, not
- 8:47Speaker 1: the best area, but Hamilton's was just an amazing welcoming town.
- 8:51Speaker 1: They really took a chance on me. I took a
- 8:54Speaker 1: chance on them and had to really UH come to
- 8:57Speaker 1: town and just we just made something together. I feel
- 8:59Speaker 1: the commun that he really supported it. So we ended
- 9:01Speaker 1: up having people driving for two hours away and buses
- 9:04Speaker 1: coming from Florida to come to this little bitty place
- 9:07Speaker 1: and only had about thirty or forty seats. And I
- 9:10Speaker 1: had the city of Cincinnati come to me and the
- 9:13Speaker 1: mayor asking what I moved my brand to the banks
- 9:18Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. So I ended up being uh the first
- 9:21Speaker 1: male or female African American to be part of a
- 9:24Speaker 1: major multi mendoor development in the city of Cincinnati. UH
- 9:28Speaker 1: And I didn't take the the offer at first, but
- 9:33Speaker 1: with some of the leadership in Cincinnati, they thought it
- 9:35Speaker 1: would be a really great idea, and based on the
- 9:38Speaker 1: packages and the different things that I was offered, I
- 9:41Speaker 1: thought it would be a good idea too, but it
- 9:42Speaker 1: it ended up not being the best business move. So
- 9:46Speaker 1: I learned a lot of lessons, but for me, it
- 9:48Speaker 1: didn't mean I had to live in my lessons and
- 9:50Speaker 1: essentially just ended up making a really bad decision on
- 9:54Speaker 1: expanding my brand and pretty much lost everything. So I
- 9:57Speaker 1: always say, as an executive chef, I don't cook with politics,
- 10:01Speaker 1: and you know, that was just something that I wasn't
- 10:04Speaker 1: really familiar with, and I I pretty much ended up
- 10:07Speaker 1: being extremely famous in town for taking that deal and uh,
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- 12:08Speaker 1: and the Council. Well know, that just shows about money
- 12:12Speaker 1: making conversation. It's also about advice. Is also I always
- 12:15Speaker 1: like to take those little nuggets because you say, you
- 12:17Speaker 1: learned a couple of lessons about this. Because you want
- 12:20Speaker 1: to show about the success of Cree Malicious and storage nationwide,
- 12:23Speaker 1: you to make an appearance on um Ellen Show, which
- 12:27Speaker 1: is a national TV appearance. When you say, because I
- 12:30Speaker 1: always tell people, you know, follow your dream and a
- 12:33Speaker 1: lot of times people will give your advice, but they
- 12:36Speaker 1: have no like I said, they have no bone in
- 12:38Speaker 1: the fight or no financial commitment and fight dis you
- 12:41Speaker 1: got good ideas. So that seems to me what happened.
- 12:44Speaker 1: A lot of people a lot of good ideas and
- 12:47Speaker 1: it's for sure the city is gonna support you. You
- 12:50Speaker 1: know everybody. The traffic is going to be natural down there.
- 12:53Speaker 1: What lessons did you learn? Because a lot of people
- 12:55Speaker 1: get these these big opportunities and these good suggestions, but
- 12:58Speaker 1: they need to do their homework on the suggestion. Correct,
- 13:02Speaker 1: that's correct. You know you first of all, you need
- 13:04Speaker 1: to to research things more. Um, it's about partnerships. Uh.
- 13:09Speaker 1: If everyone in a partnership is a good steward and
- 13:12Speaker 1: everyone's doing exactly what they committed to do and what
- 13:15Speaker 1: they say that they're going to do, things should work
- 13:17Speaker 1: out right. But when you have a partnership and there's
- 13:20Speaker 1: uh other agendas and people aren't willing to make sure
- 13:24Speaker 1: you're successful, or maybe you were offered something just as
- 13:28Speaker 1: upon maybe you were it was a token situation. Um.
- 13:32Speaker 1: Every business should have the opportunity to succeed or fail
- 13:35Speaker 1: on its own merits. UM. I went through a lot
- 13:38Speaker 1: being called the N word, a great amount of racism. UM.
- 13:43Speaker 1: You know, I I struggled with a lot from uh
- 13:46Speaker 1: the African American community, some that felt that, you know,
- 13:49Speaker 1: perhaps I was leaving them behind, when essentially I was
- 13:52Speaker 1: really trying to expand my brand and really take care
- 13:56Speaker 1: of my family. UH. Dealt with a lot with the
- 13:58Speaker 1: Caucasian community that really felt like I didn't have the
- 14:02Speaker 1: right to be on the banks on the riverfront with
- 14:05Speaker 1: a beautiful restaurant. UM. So you know, I kind of
- 14:08Speaker 1: caught it from both ends. But through all of that,
- 14:11Speaker 1: I was able to create cremolicious and Um, just deal
- 14:15Speaker 1: with things on the other end and staying really really focused.
- 14:19Speaker 1: So I always say that if you're going to be
- 14:21Speaker 1: involved in something, understand the rules of the game. If
- 14:24Speaker 1: you're gonna suit up. Because I didn't sit on the
- 14:26Speaker 1: bench right I was in the game, you know, and
- 14:28Speaker 1: I'm the type of entrepreneur I'm just gonna go for it,
- 14:31Speaker 1: and fear paralyzes us. We have to understand that at
- 14:34Speaker 1: the end of the day, you just got to go
- 14:36Speaker 1: for your dreams. You know. You have to understand that
- 14:39Speaker 1: these are the rules and they're not gonna be fair.
- 14:41Speaker 1: And we can't sit around and say, oh, I didn't
- 14:43Speaker 1: get the same treatment, because you're not gonna be be
- 14:45Speaker 1: treated the same, especially as a minority business. And you
- 14:48Speaker 1: have to own everything. I own all of my mistakes.
- 14:51Speaker 1: I own all decisions I'm made. I'm a human, right,
- 14:54Speaker 1: we all make mistakes. Um, we all are human. Uh.
- 14:58Speaker 1: In business, we're learning. I said, my situation was a
- 15:02Speaker 1: little bit more public, but I was able to really
- 15:06Speaker 1: give a lot of minority chefs and opportunity to shine,
- 15:09Speaker 1: give them a platform to be leaders, give them a
- 15:13Speaker 1: platform to be a part of something great. So we
- 15:16Speaker 1: have to understand that even if it's five seconds on
- 15:19Speaker 1: the clock and I get the ball on the fifty
- 15:21Speaker 1: yard line, I'm going for it. So I got a
- 15:23Speaker 1: fifty fifty chance of either making a touchdown or I'm
- 15:26Speaker 1: gonna get thrown to the ground. But at the end
- 15:28Speaker 1: of the day, there's always another day to play, you know,
- 15:31Speaker 1: And that's where I'm at. Well, you're fantastic. You're articulated
- 15:34Speaker 1: as well as I would have wanted to articulated to
- 15:37Speaker 1: people who are watching this or who are listening to
- 15:39Speaker 1: its own podcast. It's about money making conversation. Now, your
- 15:42Speaker 1: desserts and your and your bio say, you craft your
- 15:45Speaker 1: desserts by harnessing the familiar experience that Southern comfort food brings,
- 15:49Speaker 1: blended with culinary artistry, which is your skill level. I'm
- 15:52Speaker 1: just an eater, okay, But it's the art that you
- 15:55Speaker 1: put it together. Because when I dug into your ice
- 15:58Speaker 1: cream and you was watching me, you know, I saw,
- 16:01Speaker 1: I saw the vanilla waitfer, you know, the red velvet
- 16:06Speaker 1: tasted like red velvet. Talk about that whole process, because,
- 16:09Speaker 1: like you said, you wanted to make sure that that
- 16:11Speaker 1: cookie wasn't soggy. You wanted to make sure that the
- 16:14Speaker 1: dessert felt like the dessert that you were selling on
- 16:18Speaker 1: the as far as the brand of the name, because
- 16:20Speaker 1: I'm gonna we're gonna get into the name of your
- 16:22Speaker 1: funny dessert names that you put on here. But talk
- 16:25Speaker 1: about that process and and then you know, because some
- 16:27Speaker 1: people say, some people level of satisfaction could stop here,
- 16:31Speaker 1: but you pushed it beyond their satisfaction to reach your standards. Correct, So,
- 16:36Speaker 1: criminals is it's it's not just the dessertest and experience,
- 16:40Speaker 1: you know, I want to take you on a journey
- 16:42Speaker 1: where the storytellers right we we want to take you
- 16:45Speaker 1: to better times. There's so many unprecedented times that we're having,
- 16:50Speaker 1: you know, in the world right now, and I just
- 16:52Speaker 1: want to let people understand that, you know, we all
- 16:55Speaker 1: have something in common. We're not that different. We all
- 16:58Speaker 1: love ice cream, right a different theoriations of ice cream,
- 17:00Speaker 1: whether we're vegan or lactose intolerant. We want to make
- 17:04Speaker 1: sure that crem Alicious is in a dessert category of
- 17:07Speaker 1: its own. There there is no other ice cream on
- 17:10Speaker 1: the market like crem Alicious at this point, and I
- 17:13Speaker 1: don't feel there will be because we all have our
- 17:16Speaker 1: own niches and I felt like I can carve my
- 17:19Speaker 1: own niche by first of all, being extremely authentic, um
- 17:24Speaker 1: making sure that we have good comfort foods to basically
- 17:28Speaker 1: comfort us during these crazy moments that we're having in life.
- 17:32Speaker 1: You know, when you eat that slap your MoMA banana pudding,
- 17:35Speaker 1: it just makes you feel happy coward to the customers,
- 17:37Speaker 1: they you know, it's just so funny and different parts
- 17:40Speaker 1: of the world just looking at some of the video
- 17:43Speaker 1: they always say, oh my god, I just feel happy, right,
- 17:47Speaker 1: And so, you know, just taking that second to just
- 17:50Speaker 1: enjoy your dessert, making sure that that's sweet potato pie
- 17:53Speaker 1: taste exactly like a slice of sleep potato pie. You
- 17:57Speaker 1: having those notes of nutmeg and sentiment and fresh vanilla
- 18:01Speaker 1: bean and a pureade of uh sweet potato with the
- 18:04Speaker 1: actual butter butter not crush. I mean, you know, like
- 18:07Speaker 1: we need that short red crust and and everything in
- 18:10Speaker 1: that dessert is homemade and it's from an actual recipe
- 18:15Speaker 1: that came from my mom and my grandmother's kitchen. So
- 18:18Speaker 1: I just want people to experience that and not just
- 18:22Speaker 1: have some ice cream and a pine. I just want
- 18:24Speaker 1: to be a part of their lives and the experience
- 18:27Speaker 1: at that moment you're now, I gotta come on end. Now,
- 18:31Speaker 1: you kind of mentioned a little you teased us a
- 18:33Speaker 1: little bit on some of those names. I almost lew
- 18:34Speaker 1: everybody down. She was just not throwing out names to
- 18:37Speaker 1: be funny. Those are some of the actual names on
- 18:40Speaker 1: the actual cardins of like off ice can by Now.
- 18:43Speaker 1: This morning I got a pride to my interview with her.
- 18:46Speaker 1: I ordered. You can order what they called the seven
- 18:48Speaker 1: Indulgent flavors. There's seven of them. You can order seven.
- 18:51Speaker 1: Nice little discount you get on it if they ship
- 18:54Speaker 1: it immediately via ups Already I ordered this morning. I
- 18:57Speaker 1: already got my notice or flee for hours later that
- 19:01Speaker 1: the shipment is on the way. That's how fast they operate.
- 19:04Speaker 1: The packaging is fantastic. Let's let's let's go before I
- 19:07Speaker 1: start getting into flavors. The packaging because and how did
- 19:10Speaker 1: you come up with the name cream malicious? Because instead
- 19:14Speaker 1: of delicious, I wanted it to be cream malicious, you know, um,
- 19:18Speaker 1: just whimsical, Like I didn't want it to upscale because
- 19:21Speaker 1: this is an upscale dessert, but I feel like upscale
- 19:23Speaker 1: casual um Southern um mainly just a Southern sojourn, you know,
- 19:29Speaker 1: just like really like a Surrey where you're just like,
- 19:33Speaker 1: you know, just having an amazing time and and dancing
- 19:36Speaker 1: and just just enjoying everything that there is to enjoy
- 19:40Speaker 1: about this particular dessert and just the cream nous of it.
- 19:43Speaker 1: It's really really creamy. Um. It's a lot more creamier
- 19:47Speaker 1: than most and it's a super premium item, so it's
- 19:50Speaker 1: it really is a very high high product that we've
- 19:54Speaker 1: made very decadent and very indulgent as well, so we
- 19:58Speaker 1: didn't spare on anything. We do not use any artificial
- 20:01Speaker 1: flavoring or covering. Um. We don't use a lot of
- 20:04Speaker 1: high fruit toast, corn syrup or anything like that. So,
- 20:07Speaker 1: you know, while it does have a lot of calories,
- 20:10Speaker 1: I don't suggest eating a whole uh pint if you're
- 20:13Speaker 1: looking out for those calories. But if you are gonna cheat,
- 20:16Speaker 1: I need you to cheat with cream Alicious. I'm just
- 20:18Speaker 1: gonna let you know I did eat a whole paint.
- 20:20Speaker 1: In fact, how many when you visited me? How many
- 20:23Speaker 1: did you leave me? But what about seven? I left you?
- 20:27Speaker 1: The seven and dolge in flavors? We have all two left, okay,
- 20:32Speaker 1: my staff my staff ate one total. You know, we
- 20:36Speaker 1: all sampled a little bit of but I'll just tell
- 20:38Speaker 1: you they probably consume one. So so that statement about
- 20:41Speaker 1: don't eat one, consume one, I've done that, and I
- 20:44Speaker 1: apologizeally was just that good, you know, I put it on.
- 20:48Speaker 1: I even had fun. I had a slice of sweet
- 20:50Speaker 1: potato pie and I put my little, my little cream
- 20:53Speaker 1: alicious sweet potato pie right on the top. And then
- 20:55Speaker 1: I had the slice of peach cobbler. I was just
- 20:57Speaker 1: having fun with you because I can bake as well.
- 20:59Speaker 1: So my kitchen up. I just happen to we got
- 21:02Speaker 1: I happened to put it out there, and so I'm
- 21:04Speaker 1: gonna post you on Monday under my motivation On Monday,
- 21:06Speaker 1: I always post people on motivation about overcoming the arts,
- 21:09Speaker 1: and I want to post you and recognize you overcoming
- 21:12Speaker 1: an arts and now have established a national ice cream
- 21:16Speaker 1: and you're the queen of ice cream. You you're cream Malicious,
- 21:19Speaker 1: your Liz Rodgers, and I want to I want to
- 21:21Speaker 1: talk about that. But that's what you're trying to do
- 21:22Speaker 1: right now. You're trying to get your brain out there.
- 21:24Speaker 1: You're willing to become the face of your ice cream brand,
- 21:27Speaker 1: and that's important. Correct, It is very important. You can't.
- 21:31Speaker 1: I'm definitely not ashamed of of anything. You know, everyone
- 21:35Speaker 1: has a story. Um. You know, sometimes we just can't
- 21:38Speaker 1: keep getting so caught up in the things that we read.
- 21:42Speaker 1: I I just learned that just a regular person being
- 21:44Speaker 1: a chef and just a regular person, just um, being
- 21:47Speaker 1: involved with people writing stories and dealing with journalists and
- 21:51Speaker 1: news and media and different things. That was a different
- 21:54Speaker 1: world for me. That. You know, you can truly have
- 21:56Speaker 1: an interview and then it turns into something else that
- 22:00Speaker 1: and you know, you can be painted a different way.
- 22:02Speaker 1: But I feel like the people that know me and
- 22:04Speaker 1: understand these struggles and how hard it is to have
- 22:07Speaker 1: a small business. Um, what I'm doing and what I'm
- 22:11Speaker 1: trying to do, especially with the ice cream right now, Um,
- 22:15Speaker 1: I this scream Alicious is it's bigger than me, you know,
- 22:19Speaker 1: um being one of the first African American ice cream
- 22:21Speaker 1: manufacturers and mass production in the whole world today. You know,
- 22:25Speaker 1: I really want people to understand that this is really,
- 22:28Speaker 1: really a big deal. There's a lot of ice creams
- 22:30Speaker 1: out there on the shelf. Um. I went to a
- 22:33Speaker 1: lot of different retailers and I had many many doors
- 22:36Speaker 1: slammed in my face, you know, they were like, you know, hey,
- 22:39Speaker 1: you're a minority business, so we're not going to take
- 22:41Speaker 1: a chance on you, or they won't return your calls,
- 22:44Speaker 1: and um, then they taste your ice cream and then
- 22:47Speaker 1: there's all these things going on. Then you start to
- 22:49Speaker 1: get called. And I was really appreciative that Walmart and
- 22:53Speaker 1: Meyer and Chinooks just really took a chance on me.
- 22:57Speaker 1: Walmart is the biggest retailer in the world, and they
- 23:00Speaker 1: just really really believed in what I was trying to do.
- 23:03Speaker 1: Prior to everyone doing things for African American businesses, I
- 23:08Speaker 1: really just wanted crem Malicious to stand on its own,
- 23:11Speaker 1: you know. And I don't want to be a token.
- 23:13Speaker 1: I want to earn my space on the shelf and
- 23:15Speaker 1: compete just like anyone else. But I always say I'm
- 23:19Speaker 1: going to compete with myself because I'm I'm innovative, I'm
- 23:22Speaker 1: forever changing, going to ever be creative and really give
- 23:26Speaker 1: the consumer something different every time in your time before
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- 24:03Speaker 1: just waiting for the and there they go, almost on time.
- 24:06Speaker 1: This morning. Mom is coming out the front door strong
- 24:09Speaker 1: with a double arm kid carry. Looks like Dad has
- 24:11Speaker 1: the bags. Daughter is bringing up the rear. Oh, but
- 24:15Speaker 1: the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere.
- 24:20Speaker 1: But Mom has just nailed the perfect car seat buckle
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- 25:31Speaker 1: these indulge in flavors that I'm about to receive, and uh,
- 25:35Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay. What I'm gonna do is when I
- 25:36Speaker 1: get them, I'm gonna stack them all up in front
- 25:38Speaker 1: of me, and I'm gonna take a picture and send
- 25:40Speaker 1: it to you. I'm gonna post it, you know, because
- 25:41Speaker 1: everybody know I love switch. Now you have ain't ponies,
- 25:46Speaker 1: that's right, ponies, right, Yeah, ain't ponies, caramel pound cake.
- 25:51Speaker 1: Now and then you have uh, you have Writer's Rain,
- 25:56Speaker 1: red velvet cheesecake. Thickest these become pie. M slap your mama,
- 26:04Speaker 1: Banana pudding, porch light peach cobbler. We all know, you
- 26:09Speaker 1: know hood you know about that porch light. Boy, if
- 26:11Speaker 1: you got home before that light, that's all we're gonna
- 26:14Speaker 1: have a problems. I had that conversation with my dad
- 26:16Speaker 1: several times growing up. Uncle Charles Brown sugar bourbon cake
- 26:22Speaker 1: and then Grandma Ggs sweep potato pie. Now, those stories.
- 26:29Speaker 1: You know, people need to understand the history of the
- 26:33Speaker 1: South with the desserts. You know, the red velvet cake
- 26:36Speaker 1: was considered a celebration cake when African Americans received their freedom. Uh,
- 26:41Speaker 1: porchlight peach cobbers, just like what you said, you know,
- 26:44Speaker 1: like we'll lead the light on for you. You're welcome,
- 26:47Speaker 1: this house is safe. You know, it's it was just,
- 26:51Speaker 1: you know, it was just really a big thing, you know. Um,
- 26:54Speaker 1: I have one called white Cake that will be out
- 26:56Speaker 1: this summer, and it's a Southern white cake and was
- 27:00Speaker 1: one of the first cakes that they made in the
- 27:01Speaker 1: South and it was considered a peace offering cake. Um. Ponies,
- 27:06Speaker 1: caramel pound cake. She was my godmother and she actually
- 27:09Speaker 1: made that pound cake and a cast are and skillet
- 27:12Speaker 1: that was passed down from generation to generation to her
- 27:15Speaker 1: daughter Patricia and they still have this cast aren't skillet.
- 27:19Speaker 1: And then finally, um, Uncle Charles Brown Shutter bourbon. You know,
- 27:23Speaker 1: everybody has the Uncle Charles that that was the cool
- 27:25Speaker 1: uncle that you couldn't wait for him, the cameo. He
- 27:28Speaker 1: always had his brandy, always had his stash and his flask.
- 27:31Speaker 1: He's always drinking. But he was that uncle that everybody
- 27:34Speaker 1: loved and and couldn't wait to see at the holidays. So,
- 27:37Speaker 1: you know, crimal Isia's is each one of those brands.
- 27:40Speaker 1: They're very authentic. They're about real people, real times, real stories,
- 27:44Speaker 1: and we tell the stories where the storytellers. So people
- 27:47Speaker 1: should know what they're eating. They should be a part
- 27:50Speaker 1: of each one of those flavors. I feel that someone
- 27:53Speaker 1: can actually relate to uh a better times, you know,
- 27:57Speaker 1: in their lives and their family. Now, dude, are we are?
- 28:00Speaker 1: Do we see any cream Alicious ice cream stands or
- 28:02Speaker 1: pop up stands? Uh that's coming along the way because
- 28:05Speaker 1: it sounds so fun. It sounds like in the middle
- 28:07Speaker 1: of the summer, I should see a cream alias pop
- 28:10Speaker 1: up somewhere just to surprise people, or some of some
- 28:13Speaker 1: quick stories that that will pop up during the summer
- 28:15Speaker 1: selling this brand, of serving this brand because it's so
- 28:18Speaker 1: fun that your storytelling is amazing and so authentic. That's
- 28:22Speaker 1: what I love about it because you know, like you said,
- 28:23Speaker 1: when you just said, Grandma, g G, I know, Grandma,
- 28:26Speaker 1: and then you have slapped your mama. You know, that's
- 28:28Speaker 1: like a running to a ball that foods making slap
- 28:32Speaker 1: your mama. Boy, I'm telling you. You know, we know
- 28:34Speaker 1: we've heard that so many times growing up, but every
- 28:37Speaker 1: time we heard it, we smiled, we laughed, and so
- 28:40Speaker 1: that's what you were saying, Like you said, you know,
- 28:42Speaker 1: love not hate. You want your ice cream to bring
- 28:44Speaker 1: people together. And that's part of your brand, and that's
- 28:46Speaker 1: part of your matra that you really believe it and
- 28:49Speaker 1: you're really selling correct right and you know it's it's
- 28:54Speaker 1: it's crazy because you know, what is what is your purpose?
- 28:58Speaker 1: You know, like if you open that top, it clearly
- 29:01Speaker 1: says there's a dream in every scoop And I really
- 29:03Speaker 1: believe that because even though it was hard, you know,
- 29:07Speaker 1: I felt like I wanted to give up, you know sometimes,
- 29:10Speaker 1: and and I didn't, you know, I I persevered. It's
- 29:12Speaker 1: almost I always tell the story, Um, we all have
- 29:16Speaker 1: driven in a car, driving on fumes, hoping the goodness
- 29:19Speaker 1: that we can get to the exit to get some
- 29:21Speaker 1: gas before we run out. And that's what hope is.
- 29:25Speaker 1: Hope for me, if you me, even when I went
- 29:28Speaker 1: through so many failures and successes of launching my brands
- 29:32Speaker 1: and my restaurants, you know, I was like, please just
- 29:35Speaker 1: let me get to the exit and fill up, you know,
- 29:37Speaker 1: on hope and so that I can get right back
- 29:40Speaker 1: on the on the road. So for me, it wasn't
- 29:43Speaker 1: about the destination because I know exactly what that destination
- 29:46Speaker 1: is and where I'm going. It's more about the journey.
- 29:49Speaker 1: Who am I meeting along the way? You know, I
- 29:51Speaker 1: may stop off at this town, I may you know,
- 29:53Speaker 1: meet this person, and maybe this person may even get
- 29:56Speaker 1: in the car with me and ride with me to
- 29:58Speaker 1: a town here and there, you know, few miles, and
- 30:00Speaker 1: then they got to get out of the car and
- 30:01Speaker 1: then I realized, you know what I'm dealing with. But
- 30:05Speaker 1: even in those lessons, you know, you know what dead
- 30:08Speaker 1: ends are, you know, what street to turn down. You
- 30:11Speaker 1: know what's gonna work and what's not, and then you're
- 30:13Speaker 1: you're you're learning, and I'm praying to you know, launch
- 30:17Speaker 1: my foundation because that's essentially why I launched Crimalicious. Because
- 30:22Speaker 1: there is a dream in every scoop and there are
- 30:24Speaker 1: many entrepreneurs out there that they're afraid. They're afraid to fail,
- 30:29Speaker 1: and I just want to say today, don't be afraid
- 30:32Speaker 1: to fail. You have absolutely nothing to lose. You may
- 30:36Speaker 1: make the more you try and the more you go
- 30:39Speaker 1: for it, You're eventually gonna make it. And I just
- 30:42Speaker 1: want you guys to know that I'm here. I'm looking
- 30:44Speaker 1: for you, like Professor Xavier your on x men, like
- 30:47Speaker 1: I'm looking for those entrepreneurs that I can help build
- 30:50Speaker 1: teams around them, give them resources. It's not like somebody
- 30:54Speaker 1: can come and give you five million dollars, but that's
- 30:56Speaker 1: not gonna guarantee your success or that you're gonna stand
- 30:59Speaker 1: busy us right. Multimillion dollar brands have money injected into
- 31:03Speaker 1: them all time. What we need as minority businesses is
- 31:06Speaker 1: we need c p a s. We need advisors, we
- 31:08Speaker 1: need attorneys, we need people that's going to help us
- 31:12Speaker 1: with our operations. We need to learn how to build teams.
- 31:15Speaker 1: We need to learn and have resources that's going to
- 31:18Speaker 1: sustain our business. And through buying a point, if you're
- 31:22Speaker 1: buying a point, what I'm praying to build is you
- 31:25Speaker 1: are inadvertently helping another entrepreneur with their dream. That's why
- 31:30Speaker 1: I say there's a dream in every scoop. So I
- 31:31Speaker 1: just want people to understand that they can be a
- 31:33Speaker 1: part of something great through this point because that's what
- 31:36Speaker 1: it's all about for me. Wow, you are incredible. I'm
- 31:41Speaker 1: just gonna tell you that right now. Interview with six people,
- 31:45Speaker 1: the gems you're dropping, Dr George Fraser is the closest
- 31:48Speaker 1: I've had on this show that comes that has come
- 31:50Speaker 1: to you as far as being able to recognize that
- 31:53Speaker 1: the battles of being an entrepreneur and how to advise
- 31:56Speaker 1: and also how to inspire. You are incredible that you
- 32:00Speaker 1: before we leave, the cream Alicious brand is expanding. You
- 32:03Speaker 1: said you have some vegan products that are coming out.
- 32:05Speaker 1: Are the other line brands that we need to know
- 32:07Speaker 1: about before we wrap up the interview pre Militias does
- 32:11Speaker 1: have a vegan line coming out this summer and an
- 32:14Speaker 1: additional seven flavors, UM, like the apple Cobbler, the Piece
- 32:19Speaker 1: and Quiet Cake. We have a strawberry crunch cake. We
- 32:22Speaker 1: have a Mama Woes chocolate Brownie. We have Baby Listen
- 32:27Speaker 1: and that Baby Listen is a white chocolate brownie. So
- 32:31Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever had the Applebee's white
- 32:34Speaker 1: chocolate brownie. UM with the maple crema, I mean, we
- 32:38Speaker 1: have some really amazing flavors. And then for the vegan line, UM,
- 32:43Speaker 1: I pretty much developed a Southern mimosa and sangria line,
- 32:47Speaker 1: so it's dairy free UM and it's completely made with
- 32:51Speaker 1: fresh juices and fruit. So we'll have people that are
- 32:56Speaker 1: a little bit more health conscious and vegan. And if
- 32:59Speaker 1: you're lactose and tap on right, I just wanted to
- 33:01Speaker 1: create a line for you as well. UM. And so
- 33:03Speaker 1: we have some really amazing things. And Cremolicius does have
- 33:06Speaker 1: a complete pros and dessert line. So each one of
- 33:08Speaker 1: those points that you have, they have a Kike, a
- 33:11Speaker 1: cobra or pie to go with those points. Every every
- 33:14Speaker 1: dessert is a match for the point. Wow, thank you,
- 33:20Speaker 1: You're incredible. Now you know when that line comes up,
- 33:23Speaker 1: you got your boy? Okay, now you got me right,
- 33:27Speaker 1: you got me right, Come on now, because because I
- 33:30Speaker 1: got this already, I got this already. It's coming this week.
- 33:33Speaker 1: I'm gonna take some photos putting on social media. More important. Congratulations,
- 33:37Speaker 1: I'm a fan. I'll be there whenever you need this
- 33:39Speaker 1: phone call of support. We're gonna sit down and talk
- 33:42Speaker 1: about some marketing ideas because you really really are special
- 33:45Speaker 1: and the world needs to hear your story. Okay, Liz,
- 33:48Speaker 1: thank you sir, and I appreciate you and your team's support.
- 33:52Speaker 1: I just really wanna, you know, just ask that you know,
- 33:55Speaker 1: everyone get behind us, because you know it's I can't
- 33:59Speaker 1: change the world by myself, nor would I ever tried.
- 34:02Speaker 1: But I can reach out and touch someone. I can
- 34:04Speaker 1: make ripples in the pond, I can touch someone in
- 34:07Speaker 1: their reach, can touch someone, and then before you know it,
- 34:09Speaker 1: we're across the globe. You know, it's just about having
- 34:12Speaker 1: purpose in life, and this is God's purpose for me
- 34:14Speaker 1: and my passion. I just want to get out here
- 34:16Speaker 1: and help other entrepreneurs and inspire them to not just
- 34:20Speaker 1: exist but start living. Who are you're doing that? Thank
- 34:23Speaker 1: you for coming on Money Making Conversation. Liz Rogers, the
- 34:25Speaker 1: Queen of ice Cream miss cream Malicious. Thank you. If
- 34:31Speaker 1: you want to hear or see any interviews of Money
- 34:33Speaker 1: Making Conversations, please go to Money Making Conversation dot com
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