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Biden Ambassador Advised Hunter on Helping Corrupt Romanian Tycoon! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: We've got a couple different issues we're going to have
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Speaker 1: to deal with, including some new intel coming out of
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Speaker 1: Romania that deals with Ukraine and the Biden crime family.
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Speaker 1: Also the student loan forgiveness program. Is it not buying votes?
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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about that, and how Democrats are
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Speaker 1: having to deal with the fallout of many Americans that
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Speaker 1: feel like they were lied to and they said they
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Speaker 1: were going to forgive their student loans. Now they're trying
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Speaker 1: to forgive at least some of them, and that may
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Speaker 1: be backfiring as well. I'm going to have that for
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Speaker 1: you as well, coming up in a minute. But let's
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Speaker 1: deal with this Biden ambassador advice Hunter on helping a
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Speaker 1: Romanian tycoon accused of corruption. Now, let me give you
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Speaker 1: the backstory on this. So President Biden's current ambassador to
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Speaker 1: the European Union offered advice we now have learned to
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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden back in twenty sixteen on a Romanian client
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Speaker 1: who was on trial for corruption at the time. This
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Speaker 1: according to new emails that have been reviewed by Fox News.
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Speaker 1: Mark Gettenstein, who was appointed as US Ambassador to the
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Speaker 1: EU by Biden in July of twenty twenty one, helped
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Speaker 1: spearhead Biden's transition team as well after the twenty twenty election.
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Speaker 1: Is the president's longtime friend and confidant of several decades,
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Speaker 1: who served under him in the Senate for over a
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Speaker 1: decade and was the US Ambassador in Romania during the
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Speaker 1: Obama Biden administration from two thousand and nine to twenty twelve.
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Speaker 1: While as emails with Hunter date back to as early
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Speaker 1: as twenty ten, we've now learned on that abandoned laptop
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Speaker 1: when he was the US Ambassador in Romania, Hunter's calendar
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Speaker 1: shows that he met with this man Gettenstein at least
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Speaker 1: three times alone in twenty fifteen. Their correspondence in twenty
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Speaker 1: sixteen is now raising serious red flags about his direct
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Speaker 1: involvement in advising Hunter after he picked up the Romanian
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Speaker 1: corrupt tycoon Gabrielle that Spring is a client and what
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Speaker 1: government sources may have been used to assist Hunter Biden
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Speaker 1: apparently is the big problem for him. If you're using
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Speaker 1: government resources, government sources, government intel to assist Hunter Biden,
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Speaker 1: that is against the law. Now. On June sixteenth, twenty sixteen, Gettenstein,
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Speaker 1: who was working in the private sector as a partner
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Speaker 1: at Mayor Brown LLP during the twenty sixteen correspondence forwarded
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Speaker 1: information we now know to Hunter and his longtime business
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Speaker 1: partner Eric Squaren with the subject line Romania. The email
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Speaker 1: includes an Associated Press article saying that Romania's Constitutional Court
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Speaker 1: was expected to rule on whether to decriminalize the abuse
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Speaker 1: of office. The court wound up ruling against the move
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Speaker 1: and keeping it a criminal offense, but associates briefly weighed
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Speaker 1: whether it can help one of Hunter's clients. Quote unquote, Look,
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Speaker 1: this will not help your client because it's not retroactive.
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Speaker 1: Gettenstein wrote, referring to Hunter Biden's client. Please don't forward,
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Speaker 1: he added in a follow up email, referring to an
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Speaker 1: email chain that included Hans Klem, then Ambassador to Romania,
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Speaker 1: Dean Thompson, then Deputy Chief of Mission at the US
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Speaker 1: Embassy in Romania, and Deborah Heava, a longtime foreign service officer.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Mark, we'll keep this to ourselves, Square and responded.
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Speaker 1: Hunter's business dealings in Romania were highlighted in a report
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Speaker 1: released by the House Oversight Reform Committee in May. What
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Speaker 1: we know is that Romanian tycoon who is facing criminal
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Speaker 1: charges related to corruption and Bribery reportedly hired Hunter in
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Speaker 1: the spring of twenty sixteen to quote gies him on
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Speaker 1: the case that Tycoon was eventually convicted and since the
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Speaker 1: seven years in prison in August of twenty seventeen. In
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Speaker 1: May of twenty sixteen email, Hunter said that Gettenstein had
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Speaker 1: provided contacts for officials he felt could help in this case.
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Speaker 1: Quote unquote, is now the time to begin this assemble
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Speaker 1: a more high profile team that can speak to the
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Speaker 1: injustice here. Hunter wrote to the then lawyers that they had,
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Speaker 1: including some of them like Michael Gottlieb, Rob Walker, and
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Speaker 1: James Galar on May the sixteenth of twenty sixteen. All
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Speaker 1: of these people are deeply embedded into the Biden crime family.
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Speaker 1: He also wrote this quote, who do we have at
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Speaker 1: the firm that can speak with authority about anti corruption? Mike,
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Speaker 1: I was going to reach out to Judge Freesh and
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Speaker 1: if you can think of others of that stature, I
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Speaker 1: think now as a time to read them into the
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Speaker 1: situation and see if they're willing to help. Ambassador Gettenstein
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Speaker 1: mentions names like former US Attorney Patrickgerald. He also added
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Speaker 1: it's unclear whether Fitzgerald was pursued or contacted by Hunter
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Speaker 1: or any of his associates. However, Gettenstein's advice is held
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Speaker 1: in high esteem by the Biden family and transcended multiple
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Speaker 1: Biden family members. During a two thousand and nine visits
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Speaker 1: to Romania, then Vice President Joe Biden praised getting Stein
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Speaker 1: for his best personal friend that he had quote, we
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Speaker 1: have raised each other's children, we have our wives are
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Speaker 1: close friends. My grandchildren are considered the getting Steins to
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Speaker 1: be almost relative. So I can assure you firsthand that
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Speaker 1: this is a man I've worked with for thirty five years,
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Speaker 1: thirty years actually, and he has my ear. Biden said
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Speaker 1: of getting Stein, I know you've already figured that out,
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Speaker 1: because I know you've gone to him, and you know
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Speaker 1: he immediately picked up the phone and calls me. I
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Speaker 1: hope you won't take advantage of my friendship with the
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Speaker 1: ambassador too badly. He has a direct line, as I
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Speaker 1: said to me, and he is very effective. Biden went
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Speaker 1: on to write. In the preceding communication in the email
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Speaker 1: chain with Hunter, they also expressed frustrations about difficulty getting
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Speaker 1: traction with the US Embassy to help Hunter's client. However,
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Speaker 1: he said he reached out to the CLEM and asked
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Speaker 1: him to help us broker the meeting. Quote, if we
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Speaker 1: are going to do this, we should do it right.
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Speaker 1: We should put together a persuasive deck with all the
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Speaker 1: procedural and substant of defects in the indictment in the
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Speaker 1: case against the GABS, and we should also probably put
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Speaker 1: together start of what we would be as a press strategy,
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Speaker 1: what we would do, and we want to line up
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Speaker 1: the big names to bring over. I'd expect we only
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Speaker 1: get one shot at this. Hunter acknowledged that he agreed
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Speaker 1: with this new strategy. It's pretty nice when you've got
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Speaker 1: access to your dad and all of these people in
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Speaker 1: our government so you can make money. The day after
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Speaker 1: Hunter's email, Gottlieb reached out to Hans, who was serving
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Speaker 1: as the US ambassador to Romania at the time, saying, quote,
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Speaker 1: our situation has not improved, so I think we need
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Speaker 1: to try to reach out to a for a meeting
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Speaker 1: with the DNA folks, referring to Romania's National Anti Corruption Directorate.
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Speaker 1: Is there someone on your team with whom I might
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Speaker 1: speak to try to sort out the right protocol for
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Speaker 1: moving forward. We are most appreciative for any help you'll
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Speaker 1: be able to provide. Clem then forwarded that email to Thompson,
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Speaker 1: who is currently serving as the US Ambassador to Nepal.
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Speaker 1: Mister Gottlieb DNA has asked if there is a reference
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Speaker 1: for this case. He then forwarded Thompson's email to Hunter,
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Speaker 1: Hunter's longtime friend of business partner Rob Walker and James Galaar,
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Speaker 1: another businesssociates which many of you heard that name on
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Speaker 1: the show many times. This message with FYI. Galar responded
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Speaker 1: with a thumbs up emoji, and Walker said let's talk,
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Speaker 1: before responding quote, I'm sorry, but I've responded immediately when
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Speaker 1: I got that. He said, there are no answers to
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Speaker 1: that question, but yes. The same day, on May the eighteen,
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, Galar emailed Gottlieb, Hunter and Walker saying the
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Speaker 1: former president of Romania was heavily criticizing Clem for alleged
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Speaker 1: political interference, saying quote, I understand the PM will meet
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Speaker 1: JB and I hope that AKA will get a lot
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Speaker 1: of support, he added, referring to the then Romanian Prime Minister,
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Speaker 1: the Vice President Biden, and the ambassador by the US
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Speaker 1: embassy reaching out our message is delivered. I guess the
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Speaker 1: best is that we'll see what happens tomorrow and make
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Speaker 1: your best judgment call after that. H referring to Hunter
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Speaker 1: and maybe or Hans Clem. I think we have achieved
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Speaker 1: all that's possible through your friends, and I personally am
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Speaker 1: happy with ak contribution to justice quote unquote. So to
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Speaker 1: be clear here, you're buying a guy off for American favors.
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Speaker 1: All of these emails, and yes they are complicated, because
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Speaker 1: this is complicated bribery. But what's very clear about this
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Speaker 1: bribery is there were people that went to Hunter Biden
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Speaker 1: and James Biden said I need a political favor and
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Speaker 1: I need America to put pressure on a foreign country
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Speaker 1: And you know what they said. They said, okay, and
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Speaker 1: There's also another point on Romania that I want to
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Speaker 1: make because this is going to get to be a
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Speaker 1: bigger deal this week with these whistleblowers, we also know
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Speaker 1: after everything that I just told you that days later
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Speaker 1: Vice President Biden met with the Prime Minister and praise
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Speaker 1: his efforts to enact rule of law reforms in Romania.
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Speaker 1: He did this on May twenty fourth, twenty sixteen. In fact,
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Speaker 1: according to the White House visitor logs, Gottenstein, who was
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Speaker 1: a frequent visitor at the Obama Whitehouse with more than
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Speaker 1: a dozen visits in twenty sixteen, visited Biden's Naval Observatory
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Speaker 1: residence on the day preceding the meeting and on the
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Speaker 1: day of it. It's unclear whom he met with due
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Speaker 1: to the section being empty on the logs. The visitor
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Speaker 1: logs also show that Clym visited Biden's West Wing office
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Speaker 1: on the day of that meeting with the Prime Minister
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Speaker 1: as well. Early that afternoon, Gottlieb said CLI is in
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Speaker 1: DC and has reached out to talk today. He's calling
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Speaker 1: me this afternoon. I'll report back after words on what
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Speaker 1: he says. That evening, he emailed Hunter, Walker and glar
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Speaker 1: Are saying he had spoken with glem about requesting a
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Speaker 1: meeting with the remote with Romanian DNA. Hans called me
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Speaker 1: to discuss the development. Does best relayed over the phone,
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Speaker 1: gottlid wrote, can we connect either tonight or first thing tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Bottom line is that we should proceed with requesting the meeting.
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Speaker 1: So we don't want to talk about this on email.
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Speaker 1: We should do this over the phone. Please, what's at me?
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Speaker 1: When you can? We have not much time, Galar responded.
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Speaker 1: At one point we discussed Lee Free got little later
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Speaker 1: added referring to the former FBI director who was hired
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Speaker 1: at the recommendation of Hunter. It's been previously reported. Do
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Speaker 1: we have a good connection to him that would allow
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Speaker 1: us to say he'd come referring to the big meeting.
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Speaker 1: This is the former FBI director, Louis Freefolks. If not,
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Speaker 1: I'll send it in from me. It's unclear whose initials
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Speaker 1: are referenced in that email, but it looks like they
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Speaker 1: were saying we'll get him there if we need to
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Speaker 1: sure enough. A couple weeks later, on June tenth, twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 1: swear An email Hunter saying he had received more marginally
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Speaker 1: useful information in a phone call with Gettenstein related to Romania.
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Speaker 1: Republican members of the House overst and Accountability Committee have
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Speaker 1: said now that the timeline of events suggests that this
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Speaker 1: was influenced pedaling by the Bidens at the highest level.
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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty telling anytime someone says that something
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Speaker 1: should be discussed over the phone instead of in an email.
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Speaker 1: Representive Tim Burchett, Republican from Tennessee, said, we saw this
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Speaker 1: type of pressure regarding Barisma and so can being fired.
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Speaker 1: The family has been linked to too many deals where
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Speaker 1: there's smoke, there's fire, and there's a lot of smoke.
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Speaker 1: Now I couldn't agree more with that assessment. Now, I
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Speaker 1: also want to play for you part of another aspect
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Speaker 1: of this case from Fox News Channel where they're talking
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Speaker 1: about these basically these new things coming in with Romania
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Speaker 1: and just how shocking all of this actually is. This
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Speaker 1: on top of the twenty fifteen Hunter Biden Barisma email.
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Speaker 1: The more you see, the more it stinks. Andy McCarthy
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Speaker 1: described it, with these emails coming out.
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Speaker 2: Listen, you know there's always been a sort of tangled
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Speaker 2: web of corruption in Ukraine and that's one of the
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Speaker 2: reasons that they are not part of NATO. Right, So
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Speaker 2: in this case, you have this person at Barisma on
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Speaker 2: the board pushing back to Hunter and his lobby group saying, look,
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Speaker 2: you know you need to put us in touch with
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Speaker 2: people who have influence you need to do your job.
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Speaker 2: He sort of sounds like he's telling them to, you know,
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Speaker 2: get moving. He's kind of lighting a fire under them,
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Speaker 2: you better get moving on this.
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Speaker 1: This is wall.
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Speaker 2: His father is the vice president, dealing with issues in Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: So I think a lot of people look at this
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Speaker 2: and say, how is it possible? You know, they saw
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Speaker 2: it happened to Paul Manifort for doing business with overseas,
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Speaker 2: lobbying with overseas countries. Why is this still stagnant?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not just that either, Martha. You know, one
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Speaker 3: of the things that they're talking about in that twenty
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Speaker 3: fifteen email you just mentioned, the lobbying group. The lobbying
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Speaker 3: group was this democratic outfit called Blue Star Strategies. It
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Speaker 3: was run by a woman named Karen Tremonto. Tremontano, I think,
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Speaker 3: and you know she's an old Clinton hand. About a
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Speaker 3: year ago, actually it's more than a year ago. In
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Speaker 3: May of twenty twenty two, it was quietly announced by
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Speaker 3: Blue Star Strategies that David Weiss, the US attorney in Delaware,
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Speaker 3: who was exactly the guy that you and Speaker McCarthy
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Speaker 3: were talking about a few minutes ago, he had quietly
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Speaker 3: dropped the case against Blue Star Strategies, which was being
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Speaker 3: probed for whether they were involved in foreign agent registered violations,
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Speaker 3: which is the same thing that they were investigating Hunter
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Speaker 3: Biden for. And the rationale that was given was that
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Speaker 3: they hadn't coordinated their activities with Hunter Biden. So the
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Speaker 3: more you see this, the more it stinks. And I
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Speaker 3: think that, you know, the twenty fifteen information is very
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Speaker 3: interesting in that they're explicitly saying they expect Hunter to
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Speaker 3: use his influence. But that's nothing new. We already had
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Speaker 3: and we've known about for about three years. A twenty
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Speaker 3: fourteen email with the same character from Barisma and the
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Speaker 3: same characters on the other end, Hunter Biden and Devin Archer,
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Speaker 3: where they again explicitly say the expectation the reason that
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Speaker 3: Hunter Biden is put on this board is to use
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Speaker 3: as political informce Y.
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Speaker 2: You know, so David Wise has less about an hour
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Speaker 2: and a half now, I mean, I should say, Attorney
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Speaker 2: General Mark Grland, do you think that he is going
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Speaker 2: to approve this request by the Oversight Committee to speak
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Speaker 2: to David Wise to get his first hand account of
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Speaker 2: just how serious it this investigation is, or ever was
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Speaker 2: into Hunter Biden.
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Speaker 3: Well, if past is prologue, what I imagine they'll do is
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Speaker 3: run the clock out and say that they're still trying
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Speaker 3: to negotiate a solution. That's what we saw in connection
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Speaker 3: with the dispute that the same one of the other
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Speaker 3: House committees had with the FBI Director Ray. But I
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Speaker 3: think that the idea here is, Martha, we'd like to
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Speaker 3: think of ourselves as a sort of a rule of
17:26
Speaker 3: law society. But this is mainly politics, and the question
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Speaker 3: is what are they willing to do? What are they
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Speaker 3: willing to hold them in contempt both Garland and Weisse.
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Speaker 3: If he doesn't appear, we will see.
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Speaker 2: Kevin McCarthy waited on that just moments ago, and the
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Speaker 2: clock is ticking, so we'll see what the Attorney General
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Speaker 2: decides to do on this. Andy, thank you.
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Speaker 1: Always great by the way, Annie McCarthy here, and what
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Speaker 1: do you have to say about all this back then
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Speaker 1: connects the dots brilliantly to where we are right now.
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Speaker 1: And the connection of these dots is a clear one
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Speaker 1: that you have influence pedaling that have And this was
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Speaker 1: a full time job. This was not some new venture.
18:04
Speaker 1: This was a decades long job. This happened over and
18:08
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over and over and
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Speaker 1: over again. It was all right, dad's in office, let's
18:16
Speaker 1: get some dad's in office. Let's make as much money
18:19
Speaker 1: as we can make. Dad's in office. Let's own this.
18:23
Speaker 1: It was all hands on decks to maximize profits. Now,
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Speaker 1: all of this, by the way, connects directly and to
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Speaker 1: exactly how business was done with Barisma executives. There's really
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Speaker 1: no difference in these two. Whether it's Romania, whether it's
18:41
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, the cash coming in from Barisma.
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Speaker 1: The Barisma executives discuss expectations of high ranking US officials
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Speaker 1: in Ukraine with Hunter Biden. That's so different than what
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Speaker 1: this guy's this, this Romanian oligarch's doing on his personal level, right,
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Speaker 1: there is no difference. But between them it's the same business. Right,
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Speaker 1: what do you do? I get you favors from high
19:07
Speaker 1: ranking US officials or former officials that call people and
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Speaker 1: put pressure on the people in your country because they
19:16
Speaker 1: need a relationship with the United States of America. And
19:19
Speaker 1: we can help get rid of your problems in your
19:21
Speaker 1: country by putting pressure on your country from our country.
19:26
Speaker 1: That was the whole scheme. It's actually brilliant if it
19:29
Speaker 1: wasn't illegal. Right, you hire me. I'm a fixer. I'll
19:33
Speaker 1: change American foreign policy towards your country. Right. This goes
19:37
Speaker 1: back to Hunter Biden, the son of a bitch audio. Right,
19:40
Speaker 1: I told me he wasn't getting the billion dollars. I
19:42
Speaker 1: wouldhold usaid until you do what I tell you to
19:46
Speaker 1: do in your country. That then gets me a kickback
19:50
Speaker 1: of ten million dollars. And that's the Biden crime family.
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Speaker 1: The entire thing, Like, this is how it works. There's
19:59
Speaker 1: enough thing here that I've just described to you that
20:02
Speaker 1: is actually abnormal for the Bidens because this is their
20:06
Speaker 1: business plan and over and over again. Now we're seeing
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Speaker 1: it through these emails and connecting these dots very clearly.
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Speaker 1: It's like, Hey, you need something done in your country, Fine,
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Speaker 1: what is it? All right, I'll use American pressure on
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Speaker 1: your country to get you what you want. You just
20:23
Speaker 1: pay me. That's the Biden crime family business. Hunter Biden
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Speaker 1: wasn't advising Barisma, he wasn't sitting on the board doing
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Speaker 1: any work. That was just how they funneled the money
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Speaker 1: to make it look legitimate because it was so much money. Right,
20:39
Speaker 1: ten million dollars you got to make it look legitimate. Ky,
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Speaker 1: just come in in one payment. Hey, we'll put you
20:43
Speaker 1: on the board. We'll give you a bunch of money
20:44
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20:47
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22:23
Speaker 1: They've got to figure out now this strategy, and the
22:25
Speaker 1: strategy has to be one that's very clear. How do
22:29
Speaker 1: we get voters to overlook everything that I'm telling you
22:32
Speaker 1: right now? How do we get voters to say, Okay,
22:35
Speaker 1: we're willing to look the other way. One way they
22:40
Speaker 1: want to do it by giving you free money. And
22:43
Speaker 1: they want to give you free money in a very
22:45
Speaker 1: simple way through student loan forgiveness. Student loan forgiveness is
22:51
Speaker 1: something that they've polled. They understand that people love it.
22:56
Speaker 1: They understand that people think it's amazing when you get
22:59
Speaker 1: free money, right, because this is exactly, you know, what
23:03
Speaker 1: they're wanting to happen in this country. Kevin McCarthy has
23:07
Speaker 1: come out ripping Biden on this student loan program that
23:10
Speaker 1: they're trying to pull out their their rear ends. He
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Speaker 1: was asked a question about it. Take a listen or.
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Speaker 3: To see that's a student loans President Biden's student loan programs.
23:19
Speaker 3: Some say it's going to cost five hundred and fifty
23:21
Speaker 3: eight billion dollars more than what was expected.
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Speaker 4: You know, the Supreme Court has made a decision on that.
23:27
Speaker 4: I'm not quite sure what the President is thinking about doing.
23:30
Speaker 4: He's trying to make about seventy some percent of America
23:33
Speaker 4: to pay for about ten percent of America. I don't
23:35
Speaker 4: think that's right. You take out a loan, you say
23:37
Speaker 4: you're going to pay it back. In America, you pay
23:39
Speaker 4: your loan back. It's improving your life skills. So if
23:43
Speaker 4: you want to take that investment, you pay your loan back.
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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Pretty clear right there from Kevin McCarthy. Extremely
23:51
Speaker 1: clear that you're saying, hey, this is not what we
23:53
Speaker 1: do here in America. If you take out a loan,
23:56
Speaker 1: you pay your loan back, in theory. Representative Norman is
24:01
Speaker 1: now saying that Biden is trying to buy votes with
24:03
Speaker 1: the loan forgiveness President Joe Biden. He accused him of
24:07
Speaker 1: buying votes with his recent cancelation of thirty nine billion
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Speaker 1: in student loans for about eight hundred thousand borrowers. That's
24:14
Speaker 1: what Represented Ralph Norman from Republican South Carolina said, saying, quote,
24:18
Speaker 1: Biden doesn't think about anything other than spending money. Look
24:23
Speaker 1: at what he's done with the spending dollars and he's
24:25
Speaker 1: added to every American in this country through taxes, and
24:29
Speaker 1: what a tragedy to pay for college debt. How do
24:33
Speaker 1: you think that makes the person who didn't go to
24:34
Speaker 1: college or the person who paid their loan off to
24:37
Speaker 1: go to college feel he's buying votes, that's all he's doing.
24:41
Speaker 1: But this loan forgiveness is the Supreme Court think God
24:44
Speaker 1: has overruled him now four times and basically he's given
24:47
Speaker 1: a thumb to the Supreme Court. And really he is
24:50
Speaker 1: taking it to the American people in such an awful way.
24:53
Speaker 1: This is money we don't have, thirty two trillion in
24:56
Speaker 1: debt and rising, the congressman added. According to sa NBC,
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Speaker 1: Those eligible for cancelation must have made payments for twenty
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Speaker 1: to twenty five years. Other caveats are their loan and
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Speaker 1: plan types. The action was deemed to quote fix the
25:12
Speaker 1: long standing failures in the student loan repayment program. Now,
25:17
Speaker 1: if you've been paying on this loan for twenty or
25:19
Speaker 1: twenty five years, I want you to do the math
25:21
Speaker 1: on how old you are. It means you're forty five
25:23
Speaker 1: to fifty years older more. And that's why they're wanting
25:27
Speaker 1: to forgive loans now for people that have been paying
25:29
Speaker 1: on their student loans for twenty to twenty five years.
25:32
Speaker 1: Most of those have been paying them at the bare
25:34
Speaker 1: minimum while refinancing them multiple times to get the interest
25:36
Speaker 1: rate extremely low. Many people have no intention of paying
25:40
Speaker 1: off these loans because the interest rates are so loan
25:42
Speaker 1: and there's other debt they have that is a higher
25:45
Speaker 1: interest rate, and they would rather pay on those loans
25:47
Speaker 1: for cars and houses and you know whatever it is, airplanes,
25:51
Speaker 1: The list goes on and on. But this president and
25:55
Speaker 1: what they figured out, what they've found out, what they
25:58
Speaker 1: realized was, hey, we can do a pretty good job here.
26:02
Speaker 1: We've got a pretty brilliant way of going about this,
26:06
Speaker 1: we're going to make sure that it's forty five fifty
26:09
Speaker 1: to fifty five sixty year olds who are going to
26:12
Speaker 1: get the loan forget us, because we know they vote
26:14
Speaker 1: in the highest numbers. Like Notice how they're screwing the
26:17
Speaker 1: young people, which they claim they were doing this for originally.
26:20
Speaker 1: Now they're saying no, no, you've got it paid for twenty
26:22
Speaker 1: to twenty five years on these loans before we'll forgive them.
26:25
Speaker 1: That's buying votes, and they're not telling the young people
26:29
Speaker 1: to come out and vote for them through this lie.
26:31
Speaker 1: They told them last time to come vote, and they
26:33
Speaker 1: know they can't lie to them twice in a row.
26:35
Speaker 1: They're not that dumb. So instead we'll actually do it
26:39
Speaker 1: for people that have jobs, that are older, that should
26:41
Speaker 1: have good paying jobs, or that should have saved and
26:43
Speaker 1: should have paid off their debts. If you've been paying
26:45
Speaker 1: on student loan for twenty to twenty five years, clearly
26:49
Speaker 1: you can handle that student loan. So why would we
26:52
Speaker 1: now forgive the payments left on that student loan. It
26:57
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense unless you're trying to buy votes,
27:01
Speaker 1: then it makes complete sense. It's amazing how the Obama phone.
27:05
Speaker 1: If you remember that lady who said, you know, I'm
27:08
Speaker 1: voting for Obama over Mitt Ronnie met Ronney sucks right
27:11
Speaker 1: because Obama pays for my cell phone, and if I
27:13
Speaker 1: vote for him again, he's going to do more. That's
27:16
Speaker 1: how it was described, He's going to do more. We've
27:22
Speaker 1: moved from that now to paying off tens of thousands
27:26
Speaker 1: of dollars in student loan debt. I think everyone should
27:32
Speaker 1: be pretty shocked by that. I think everyone should be
27:36
Speaker 1: pretty mad about that. I think everyone should be pretty
27:38
Speaker 1: angry about that. For me, I would be furious over
27:43
Speaker 1: this if I was an older person that paid off
27:46
Speaker 1: my loans the correct way and paid them all off.
27:49
Speaker 1: If you have paid your student loans off, really, at
27:51
Speaker 1: any age, you should be furious. Now, this is unfair,
27:56
Speaker 1: but they don't care about if it's fair or not.
27:58
Speaker 1: This is about buying votes. They want to buy votes,
28:03
Speaker 1: and this is how you do it. And if you
28:05
Speaker 1: can buy eight hundred thousand votes, because that is what
28:10
Speaker 1: they're saying they want to do. If you can buy
28:13
Speaker 1: those eight hundred thousand votes, then you're in great shape.
28:18
Speaker 1: That's going to give you a nice leg up, that's
28:21
Speaker 1: going to help you significantly moving forward. Look, when you've
28:27
Speaker 1: got a president that doesn't even show up for work
28:30
Speaker 1: on the regular basis, you can relate to these kids
28:33
Speaker 1: that don't want to pay their student loan debts off.
28:35
Speaker 1: You may not realize this, but we just got worried
28:38
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden after taking Monday off and only working
28:43
Speaker 1: from noon to four every day. They say he has
28:47
Speaker 1: now taken three hundred and sixty five vacation days since
28:51
Speaker 1: taking office. That's how incapacitated Joe Biden is. And he
28:56
Speaker 1: wants you to give him four more years. This is
29:00
Speaker 1: that's why they're having to do what they're doing now,
29:03
Speaker 1: bailing you out or bailing people out, trying to buy votes.
29:08
Speaker 1: This Biden student loan bailout. This plan they're now saying
29:13
Speaker 1: would cost four hundred and seventy five billion over the
29:17
Speaker 1: next decade. And remember President Biden condemned attack the radical
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Speaker 1: US Supreme Court that blocked is planned to cancel three
29:26
Speaker 1: hundred and forty billion student loan debt on June thirtieth.
29:28
Speaker 5: Listen, there millions of Americans, millions of Americans this country
29:33
Speaker 5: who feel disappointed and discouraged or even a little bit
29:37
Speaker 5: angry with the course decision today on student debt, and
29:41
Speaker 5: I must admit I do too. Sixteen million people have
29:44
Speaker 5: already been approved. The money was literally about to go
29:47
Speaker 5: out the door, and then Republican elected officials and special
29:51
Speaker 5: inters stepped in. They said no, no, literally snatching from
29:56
Speaker 5: the hands of millions of Americans thousands of dollars in
29:58
Speaker 5: student debt relief was about to change their lives. So
30:02
Speaker 5: let me be clear. For Republics and Congress, it's not
30:05
Speaker 5: about reducing the deficit. It's not about fairness and forgive
30:08
Speaker 5: me loans. It's only about forgiving loans that they have
30:11
Speaker 5: to pay. Today, the Supreme Court sided with them. I
30:15
Speaker 5: believe the court's decision to strike down my student debt
30:18
Speaker 5: relief program as a mistake was wrong. That's why we're
30:21
Speaker 5: creating a temporary, twelve month what we're calling on ramp
30:25
Speaker 5: repayment program.
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Speaker 1: Now, what is an on ramp repayment program? What is
30:35
Speaker 1: he even talking about? What he means is translations. We're
30:38
Speaker 1: going to free student loans for another twelve months in
30:41
Speaker 1: case we can figure out a way to screw you
30:43
Speaker 1: the American worker again.
30:45
Speaker 5: Now, this is not the same as a student loan pause.
30:49
Speaker 5: It's been an effect for the past three years, monthly
30:52
Speaker 5: payments will be due, bills will not go out, and
30:55
Speaker 5: interests will be accruing. And during this period, if you
30:58
Speaker 5: can pay your monthly bills, but if you cannot, if
31:02
Speaker 5: you miss payments, this on ramp temporarily removed the thread
31:06
Speaker 5: of the fall or having your credit harm, which can
31:09
Speaker 5: hurt borrows for years to come.
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Speaker 3: Mister President, why did you give millions of borrowers false hope?
31:14
Speaker 4: You've dated doubted your own authority here in the past.
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Speaker 5: I didn't give any false hope. The question was whether
31:21
Speaker 5: or not I would do even more than was requested.
31:25
Speaker 5: What I did I thought was appropriate and was able
31:27
Speaker 5: to be done and would get done. I didn't give
31:30
Speaker 5: bors false But the Republicans snatched away the hope that
31:34
Speaker 5: they were given. And it's real, real hope.
31:37
Speaker 1: Thank you, real hope. I didn't sid and you know,
31:40
Speaker 1: give anybody false hope. Yeah, you did. Your own lawyer
31:43
Speaker 1: said that this wasn't going to work. Your own team
31:46
Speaker 1: said this wasn't going to work. Your own group of
31:50
Speaker 1: lawyers on the campaign had even set off the record
31:53
Speaker 1: that they didn't believe that this was going to work.
31:57
Speaker 1: And now you want to sit there and act like
31:58
Speaker 1: you didn't give false hope. Of course you did, and
32:01
Speaker 1: that's why. Now he's trying to resurrect this by saying,
32:03
Speaker 1: all right, well, only those that have paid for twenty
32:06
Speaker 1: years or more. If you paid for twenty years or more,
32:09
Speaker 1: you deserve to have your student loans forgiven. Why is
32:15
Speaker 1: he saying that, One simple reason, because he's trying to
32:19
Speaker 1: buy votes ahead of a presidential election when he knows
32:21
Speaker 1: he's in trouble and we cannot let him get away
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