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Rodney & Holly Robinson Peete, Dr. Iris Cooper, Zach Kerr & Jay Barnett · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: their Hallmark Channel's family docuseries called Meet the Pizza, which
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  Speaker 1: money Making A conversation with Rodney and Holly Robinson. Pete, Holly,
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  Speaker 1: how you doing girl, I'm doing just fine. Rashan, thank
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  Speaker 1: you for having us today. Well, um the show. I
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  Speaker 1: was fortunate to help launch the show when it first
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  Speaker 1: married and being a couple, and there's certain people who
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  Speaker 1: loved what you were saying about Rodney. It was very nice.
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  Speaker 1: But now I wanted just to say thank you to you, Rashwan,
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  Speaker 1: because you've been there for us in many different times,
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  Speaker 1: Gonna show called for Pete's Sake, um be. After two seasons,
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  Speaker 1: the own network decided to let us go and Hallmark
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  Speaker 1: I want to pick us up as free agents and
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  Speaker 1: we've been off and running ever since. We've changed the
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  Speaker 1: name to Meet the Pete the same family, different network,
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  Speaker 1: and uh really loving it. I think probably the biggest
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  Speaker 1: differences the Hallmark Hallmark Channel really wanted to embrace the
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  Speaker 1: philanthropic side of the family and Hollyrock Foundation. They've been
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  Speaker 1: unbelievably supportive of our mission. So comes on Sunday nights
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  Speaker 1: at nine eighth Central and we're really enjoying it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she's just just turned our own. She's like a faucet,
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  Speaker 1: just turn o. She gonna go to She's like a faucet.
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  Speaker 1: She went through the whole thing. So tell us about
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  Speaker 1: the foundation. Well, Holly rod was started about four years
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  Speaker 1: years ago and we are absolutely thrilled to be able
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  Speaker 1: to turn some situations that have happened in our lives
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  Speaker 1: into something prisitive for others. So many people will know
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  Speaker 1: that my father, Matt Robinson, who was the original Gordon
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  Speaker 1: on Sesson Street, pre iconic TV guy, became ill with
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  Speaker 1: Parkinson's disease when I was just a freshman in college.
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  Speaker 1: It got worse. When I met Rodney. He um said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, your dad needs not only our help, but
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  Speaker 1: other families need help too, So let's get in the
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  Speaker 1: business with helping other people. Britney was the one that
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  Speaker 1: started Holly Rized Foundation or four you need to start it,
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  Speaker 1: really and um, I'm always really thankful things for that.
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  Speaker 1: And then later on when r J was born and
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  Speaker 1: when you got the arts autism diagnosis, we knew we
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  Speaker 1: had to expand the mission to autism and so now
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  Speaker 1: we're providing compasiony care for both families impacted by Parkinson's
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  Speaker 1: and autism. And we're about to open Our J's Place,
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  Speaker 1: which is our first bricks and mortar flagships UM place
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  Speaker 1: down in l A. And it's going to help young people,
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  Speaker 1: uh with autism on the spectrum get jobs. And so
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  Speaker 1: last night or the last episode that meets the peak,
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  Speaker 1: we had a job there. We got a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: young people jobs like r J or Sean. You remember
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  Speaker 1: to r J he wasn't gonna be in. And now
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  Speaker 1: Our J is on the third season with the Los
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  Speaker 1: Angeles Dodgers working in the clubhouse. So this is important
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  Speaker 1: to show these stories. And I'm just glad that Hallmark
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  Speaker 1: Channel allowed us to us the platform. Well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's really interested. Uh Riva Martin was a big advocates
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  Speaker 1: of autism. We're working for Project TV projects right now
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  Speaker 1: developing for autists. Because of the fact that, uh my um,
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  Speaker 1: one of my little nephews, he has autism. I invited
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  Speaker 1: the family always down to my home in Atlanta because
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  Speaker 1: it's such a quiet environment. He gets to swim all
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  Speaker 1: the time he's and she always says he's a different
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  Speaker 1: child when he comes to you know. And so it's
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  Speaker 1: because I was I sat down with a Reaver whose
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  Speaker 1: son has autism, and I would say this almost feels
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  Speaker 1: like um, especially in the African American community, you hear
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  Speaker 1: more and more cases of autism, and it's almost like
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  Speaker 1: autism is like, okay, what's this like a little small
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  Speaker 1: not only seems like it's it's such a talked about
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  Speaker 1: um situation now that we need to understand the connectivity
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  Speaker 1: and that that you can live a normal life. And
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  Speaker 1: so uh so, just to hear you talk about this,
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  Speaker 1: I I just wanted us you know that I want
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be honoring known her for years. And UM,
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  Speaker 1: you O trip. I was only gonna say that. One
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons why we wanted to be on people
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  Speaker 1: asking all the time, why did you want to be
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  Speaker 1: on a reality program? Like why? One of the reasons
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  Speaker 1: why I wanted to do this is because need more awareness.
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  Speaker 1: You never see full of characters with autism on television anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: But I wanted to show an African American young man
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  Speaker 1: I can, I can I just add to Rason. I
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  Speaker 1: of you know, not wanting to admit or not wanting
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  Speaker 1: And then sometimes the kids are nine, ten, eleven, twelve
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  Speaker 1: years old and sometimes even older than that before a
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  Speaker 1: family is willing to go get a true diagnosis. So
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  Speaker 1: that is that is a big reason why we're out too,
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  Speaker 1: UM is because we see the success that early diagnosis
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  Speaker 1: dire for r J, and we want to share that
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  Speaker 1: with other families. And I think that's important and I
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  Speaker 1: think that's important that we we talk comfortably about it.
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  Speaker 1: You just we're saying because see where you when you
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  Speaker 1: when you think there's an issue, there's a problem, then
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  Speaker 1: to support and and and to be able to communicate.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I always be there for both of you,
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  Speaker 1: and I just was fortunate today to be able to finally,
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  Speaker 1: you know, live right, to know how much I love
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  Speaker 1: him and how important he's played and just just being Rodney,
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  Speaker 1: just being a man, just being a man out there
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  Speaker 1: struggling to be up, to be fulfill his dream. That's
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  Speaker 1: you got r J's place. What's what's the date? What's
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  Speaker 1: the date? Uh? So we're going we're gonna open our
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  Speaker 1: place on March eighteen, and we're gonna be chronicling and
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  Speaker 1: you'll see it on Meet the Pizza of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Probably the episode will air in April. But we're we've
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  Speaker 1: and helping um to get this thing open and keep
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  Speaker 1: it open. Uh, to help these young people get jobs
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  Speaker 1: like r J did. She was a game changer for him. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: is the founder of Glory Foods, Incorporated, a multimillion dollar
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  Speaker 1: I got stuff to do. I said, we got to
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  Speaker 1: find a way to expert I that process if if
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: you're going to have me involved, and and so they said, well,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know how to do that. And I said, well,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: we're going to have to find out how to do that.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Because the woman in the eighties was not interested in
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: spent in four or five hours working on greens and
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: so I said, here's what we're gonna do. You all
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: work on the technology. I'll work on the marketing and branding.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: And I did marketing research. I looked into the process
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: of breaching black women who were in the workforce at
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: the time, and created the work, the business plan, the branding.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: And then while I was doing that, they were working
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: on how to preseason vegetables before they're cooked in a can,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and then cooked them all together in a mass production fashion.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: And the next thing we know is we are in
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: front of Kroger. My partner, Bill Williams, and myself and
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I did a presentation to the buyers, all men, no
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: power point, no overhead projector not even a handout, and
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I was just talking about this niche of why we
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: had to exercise the option right now, how powerful it
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: would be and it would reach black women all over
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: the country. And so after I asked for questions, all
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: they said was, we're in. We're going to send you
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: in order, and let me tell you something. With Sean,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: it was just talk. We didn't hand the product, and
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: we sat out in front of the Kroger regional office,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: not knowing whether to laugh or cry because we had nothing,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and so we were on an accelerated pace to come
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: up with this product so we could deliver. So it
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: took us two years to get through FDA approval with
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: this new disruptive cooking process, and Kroger waited. Kroger waited
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: for us. We debuted in Columbus, in the inner City,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: and our next stop was Atlanta. Now now it was
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: headquarters where in Columbus, Ohio and right in the hood Columbus, Ohio.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: And how did the name Glory Foods come about? How
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: did that name come about? Well, I knew it had
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to be a name that had some versatility and flexibility.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: It also had to resonate with the black community. And
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know how many times we say glory in
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  Speaker 1: a in a week's time. We say it all the time,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: whether it's in reference glory, gloria, be yea yay glory
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  Speaker 1: to God. Yes. So that name, plus it was so flexible.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: It was in the movie with Denzel Washington, it was
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: in so many hymnos and in the Bible. Absolutely. So
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: when we got that name and saw that was available,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: we jumped on it. Well that was smart and uh
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: so so so that was like you put there what
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: they call the chicken before the call became first the chicken. Yes,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: the train took off the train, So you got out there,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: miss fancy talker. Miss fancy talker went out there talk
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  Speaker 1: in front of those mans, all those big old words,
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  Speaker 1: and they said, sold y'all. When I said, all grow,
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  Speaker 1: grow African American people in front of the building, crime
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Cryan said, So, with that being said, what is the
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: next step in that? Because you know this is a
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: major we're talking about food, you're talking about manufacturing, and
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you're talking about kenning. You're talking about also the whole
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: process of being able to make it taste good like
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Grandma cooker, your mama cooked it. And also, did you
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: guys already have lined up the selections of yams, black
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: eyed peas, pento beans, greens? Are you just had a
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: couple of them? Because I know that it always has
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: to be sampled out by, you know, by people just
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: say this tastes really good. Tell us about that process. Well,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Atlanta was the place that we went to test the recipes.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I held a focus group with some of my contacts
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: in the Atlanta market before we actually went with the
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: product line, and I got really really positive responses. So
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: you have to do your marketing research before you jump
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: out there and make that kind of investment. And after
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: we got the feedback from Atlanta and from Columbus, Ohio,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: which is a more conservative market, we knew we were
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: onto something. And then we began to sample the product
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: in various retail outlets. Um and just just to be clear,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: your path to commercialization is not going to be a
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: straight line. You're going to have detours. You're gonna have detours,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: You're going to have uh stumbles along the way. And
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: fortunately we had My partners had strong food production background.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I'm a marketing person, and so we combined our talents
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: and we jumped over those hurdles. We went through caves
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and tunnels, but we finally landed in the spot that
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: we wanted to in the beginning. Now, let me be clear,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Glory foods Is was a marketing company. We didn't have
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: the expertise for the the fixed assets to manufacture these products,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: so we subcontracted that out to other companies, and in
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, the company had reached seventy million
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: dollars in sales in like thirty five states, and we
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: sold it to the greens manufacturer. The lesson here is
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: begin with the end in mind. Your aim was always
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to sell it um. It was started out to be
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a a family owned kind of business, just like so
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: many food businesses. But as time went on, we realized
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: that there was market value, industry value because this has
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: never been done before. No one had ever preseasoned greens
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: or vegetables and then cooked them in a mask for
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: duction process. Nobody's done that. And let me just say
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that there were many vegetable companies that were very angry
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: that we got our foot in the door first and outstanding.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm very familiar with the product because
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: of the fact that for two years UH you advertise
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: on the Steve Harvey Morning Show that UH nationally UH
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: awards shows, the Neighborhood Awards, and so you guys had
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: natural instincts about selling your brand to the community and
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: putting it in a positive light in the community. I
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: took that that was my big take away about the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Glory Feuds brand, the whole marketing campaign. Now, when you
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: sold the product, it's always like you know, you sell
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: your house, you know, you drive by your house if
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: they're still taking care of yard like you took care
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: of yard. You know, were there any um emotions still
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: tied to it, how they were marketing into the product,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: or how the product was still tasted like it was
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: when you was part of it, or you just washed
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: your hands and walked away. No, I will never wash
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: my hands from Glory Foods because my my heritage are
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: in those products. My mother's recipes are in the product.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: So never ever would I ever walk away from Glory.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Now I don't own it anymore, But when when you
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: start a small business, you always have to say, as
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: I say, have the end in mind that either you're
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: gonna sell it or you're going to transfer it to
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: your heirs. Got to have that plan, and when it
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: popped up in two thousand and ten, we owed it
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: to our investors to take advantage of it. Well good,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm happy to have this conversation about it because
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: of the fact that you started something and not many
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: African Americans get to hear an individual who was part
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: of a successful startup. And the thing I've been noticing
• 25:44
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• 25:56
  Speaker 1: don't put all your eggs in one back. You've got
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  Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, a spokesperson, and a player in the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League at nose tackle those tackles for the Denver Broncoles.
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  Speaker 1: My high City, Okay. He played college football at Delaware
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  Speaker 1: and signed with the Indianapolis Coats as an undrafted free
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversation, Zacchara Winston Kirk. Did
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  Speaker 1: I love that somebody to day homework man's up. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, congratulations on you m being who you are,
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  Speaker 1: whenever you want to come on my show is act.
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  Speaker 1: different levels from we're gonna talk about Psychodocious, which are
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  Speaker 1: affected some good friends of mine and I want to
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  Speaker 1: I want to share my story with you. And I
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  Speaker 1: of my My My Talent team we meet every Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: and we meet Friday and we go with guests and
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  Speaker 1: your your name came up and I went wow, I
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  Speaker 1: love his story. I also love the fact that you
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  Speaker 1: want to get into entrepreneurship. Also know the fact that
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  Speaker 1: you were an undrafted free ation and you know it's
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  Speaker 1: really funny. They'll tell you that I have this this show.
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  Speaker 1: I featured more undrafted free agents for the NFL on
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  Speaker 1: my show than first round picks because of the fact
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  Speaker 1: that there are no guarantees and you're just chasing the dream.
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  Speaker 1: So tell us about that experience of you know, you
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  Speaker 1: go through everybody wants to get drafted and you don't
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  Speaker 1: get drafted. Tell us those steps that went to you
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  Speaker 1: making it to the n Apple's coat. Well, see, man, honestly, um,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: just like you said, everybody, you know, everybody that plays
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  Speaker 1: college football, they expect and hope to get drafted. Um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie man me. In my situation, I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of I was like playing Devil's Advocate with myself.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, well, you know, I went to a small school.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I had a good seed a year and
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  Speaker 1: all the other stuff. But um, I know how the
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: NFL lives as a business, and you know, small, small
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: school guys they get a chance. But you know that
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: they'd rather take a chance on a guy that went
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  Speaker 1: to Georgia, Florida or Miami, you know, over a guy
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  Speaker 1: that went to Delaware transferred, you know, from rather to Delaware.
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  Speaker 1: So I kind of played devil advocate with myself and
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: I still felt like I could get drafted, but just
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: not as high as I would like like to ask.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: And Um, you know, the draft came up, and I
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: had a couple of teams called me during the draft saying,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we got X amount of picks left. You know,
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  Speaker 1: just stay by your phone. And in the end of
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the draft came in and none of them teams called me.
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  Speaker 1: Um and man the coach that actually brought me in
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  Speaker 1: for a top thirty visit before the draft, and I
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  Speaker 1: was the only team to do that. I'm familiar with
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  Speaker 1: their coaches, familiar with the you know, familiar with the city.
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  Speaker 1: I had been there twice because of the combine, right,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: so you know, yeah exactly. So you know, I kind
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  Speaker 1: of just felt comfortable going there. You know, I knew
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  Speaker 1: I had an opportunity to make I felt like I
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  Speaker 1: could have went to any team and and honestly made
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  Speaker 1: the team. But I knew that those guys they believed
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  Speaker 1: in me and they would give me a fair, fair
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  Speaker 1: chance because of all the stuff that they did prior
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: prior to the draft. I'm gonna ask you, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: ask you straight up, Zachary, this is about food that
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  Speaker 1: you know. I'm a big eater of Zacharry. Now you
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  Speaker 1: six to its three four okay. I'm six ft one
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  Speaker 1: ninety four okay, now likes to eat. I fear you.
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  Speaker 1: I fear you. I fear you. I'm the wrong person
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  Speaker 1: to come into town and hanging out with everybody. Game. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: Sean McDonald, I had a couple of friends came to town.
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  Speaker 1: I don't see see what do you? You're based in Denver? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I bought a house and Denver two years ago when
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  Speaker 1: I signed my my initial country. I'm I'm we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: trade numbers. I gotta find out what you're gonna because
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  Speaker 1: I got I got eats all over this country, Zachor.
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  Speaker 1: I've never been to Denver, so I know you've got
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  Speaker 1: some spaces up there for me. Oh yeah, I got some.
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  Speaker 1: I got I got the scots for you with Trump
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  Speaker 1: Scots for you, and do it. I'm tasting man. See,
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  Speaker 1: I I was going off buffet my middle name. I'm
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  Speaker 1: a buffet man said, I don't know, you might be
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  Speaker 1: shamed for going into a buffet eating with regular folks.
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  Speaker 1: So you six now I'm hey, look, look, hey, I
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  Speaker 1: definitely gonna we could be the TV show Me and
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  Speaker 1: Zach around just put you know, wasn't worried about him.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm really the problem, ye man, he look, hey, look,
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  Speaker 1: I gotta be disciplined with this thing. Man. I don't
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  Speaker 1: see people think leave, But you know that's what I'm
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, that we ain't gonna meet all
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  Speaker 1: the time. You know what I'm saying. Put your knowing
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  Speaker 1: some teammates out there for you. Man, I keep put
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  Speaker 1: on the weight. Let me go. Let me call my
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  Speaker 1: boy Rashawn. That's what you're gone. That's what we're gonna do.
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  Speaker 1: Call my boy Rashawn. You got issues. He goes straighten
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  Speaker 1: it out in one week. One week, I'm gonna start
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. People understand my love can be an
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  Speaker 1: asset in the NFL. M HM, because there's a lot
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: of dudes I heard they ain't been around Rashaan Maketh fat.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just tell you six two, you don't need my help.
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  Speaker 1: You're walt no, no, I don't need So let's talk
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: about man, just just you know, you you you know,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: we all know NFL has a short window. You know,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: it's a physical sport. You know, you go in doing
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: there is an end. Anybody who goes to the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: I think to go to retire twenty years and now
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: is not really comprehending what they're getting into. But you
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: decided that you're gonna become an entrepreneur. Talk about that absolutely, yeah, man,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, um, I've always been interested in business and
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: in entrepreneurship. I just didn't really know how to go
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  Speaker 1: about it. You know, a college other study, you know,
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  Speaker 1: financing that vias and or accounting or any of that stuff.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: I just studied what I liked. So once I got
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: to the NFL and I noticed, you know, there was
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys um in my position that that
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: that weren't doing what I was interested in, I was like,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: you know what, I gotta I gotta start figuring this
• 35:43
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• 35:46
  Speaker 1: of people, Um, I actually really got it into get
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  Speaker 1: what I've seen. I've seen guys, uh, I've seen guys
• 35:53
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  Speaker 1: be one of those guys just living off a football
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  Speaker 1: salary and something. Some guys could do it, and I've
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  Speaker 1: been and I can do it too, you know. But
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: it's just like I feel like having multiple streams of
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  Speaker 1: what keeps you, uh, you know, above water and life
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and um. So you know, I met with a couple
• 36:13
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• 36:19
  Speaker 1: got his NBA, went to business school, and uh. He
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  Speaker 1: approached me with this with this plan about coffee and uh,
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  Speaker 1: and he kind of just he broke it down to me.
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  Speaker 1: And I told him I was like me and him
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  Speaker 1: had been one of the lake with each other based on,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you know, on the business side, not even on the
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: football side, because he's a football fan too. And and
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I kind of expressed and we both expressed the the
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: need and want for athletes to own revenue in their
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: own brands and in their names. I love this. I
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  Speaker 1: love this interview. I want to talk about your mom,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: what you heard about the Foundation of the Syndicre Award
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  Speaker 1: presented at the Foundation for Psycho dosis research. First of all,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: tell everybody what psycodocious is and why you became a spokesperson,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: and then would talk about your mom. Okay, yea. So
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: sarcudoce is pretty much it's a it's an inflammatory disease
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: and attacks your main organs, um you know, brain, heart
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: learns never I mean your skin, you get it, you
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: get it, you get it all. You can get it anywhere.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: And what it does is pretty much it it caused
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: inflammation in those oldens. So my mom she has it
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: in her lungs and it caused she had she had
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  Speaker 1: a real bad flayer one day and the medicine they
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: gave her it caused the sarcuedos to eat up a
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: third of her lungs. So she has a learned in
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the quarter right now. And and you know, it's just
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: it's something she's had for fifty years and it kind
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: of you know, it definitely, um, it definitely doesn't allow
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  Speaker 1: her to be who she was when I was growing up.
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: And so now tell us about the that's the disease illness,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: tell us about to find out. Well, see, honestly, man
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  Speaker 1: and um, I wanted to kind of bring awareness tool
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: and I was trying to figure out the way we
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: can do that without um, you know, being so in
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: your face with it. And what happened was we pretty
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: much contacted uh the Foundations producing research so that we
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: wanted to get on board and help him out. And
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: they came back and was like, we want you to
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: be the national spokes person. Actually, so it worked out,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: so Zack Zack. They just came back to just exack
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: because you got personality. So you know, you just you
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: just didn't call like a regular football plasic. Who is
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: that you? Funny? You know you got a little swag?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Are you? Let's see the photo? They see little swag?
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's a shadow of a private jet that
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: you're walking by. I know where you had, brother, I
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: know how to take photo, look and put that shot
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: in the background. That that G four, that G four
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: shadow in the background. Yeah yeah, man. So just and
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, man, I tried to I
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: pride myself on being a good live in my life, right,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: so I feel like if you do those things, man,
• 39:03
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• 39:05
  Speaker 1: lot of times when I want to get stuff done,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it just happens. I tell people that a whole time, like,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I wish I could give you this crazy
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  Speaker 1: success story, but at the same time, like I just
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: want stuff to happen to anything. It ended up happening
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: for me. So that's pretty much how I went down.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: And that's that's really special. And so so now this offseason,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: so you're kind of doing your thing, getting ready for
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: what the PTO? Uh I'm getting. I know it's three letters.
• 39:33
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  Speaker 1: just tell you man that you know, I know when
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: you call these shows, you don't know what they're spect Uh.
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  Speaker 1: This is this respect is respect for you and your brand.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what I'm telling you. That you called me
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: at the time and uh and communicated with me. Tell
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  Speaker 1: the company that represents you, uh they do a great job,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: or represent the other talent like you, that this is
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: a home. It's home for all you guys. And I
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: know that my brand is but uh, just in clothes.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I want you to talk about the donation made for
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: NFL my cause my cleats at the NFL back to
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  Speaker 1: every year and I'm sure tied to psycho dosis research. Correct,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah it was, man, Actually it was. It's crazy man,
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  Speaker 1: this guy ship. We received the largest donation in the
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• 40:44
  Speaker 1: know I got. There were customers they were customizing. Uh.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: The tribute was obviously for the foundation of talkerden your
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• 40:54
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  Speaker 1: Program for incoming freshman males at Texas Southern University as
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  Speaker 1: my City third Ward, Texas, as we call it back
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  Speaker 1: there in Houston. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation. For
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  Speaker 1: the very first time, Jay Barnett I'm thank you for
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  Speaker 1: having me. Brother. How you doing that? J Man? I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing well. Man, blessed this morning. Man, Well, you have
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  Speaker 1: to say I have to say blessed because I got
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: you on the air. This is a show that I
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: started almost a year and a half ago and at
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: the rise of this show in the popular this show
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  Speaker 1: has caught me off guard. And to have the quality
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: of against like you on the show, let's me know
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I'm doing the right thing. And then in your life,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: you know, being a professional football player and the educated
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: professional football player, do you do you carry the badge
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: of being a performed professional What do you carry that
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: badge in your life being a performed professional football player? Um,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: it all depends on the setting. Um it depends on
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: the group that I'm in. Um, you know, it's a
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  Speaker 1: privious to be, you know, to have been part of
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: such a you know, an elite society, and um it
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: just having you know, has that experience. But I think
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: more importantly, UM, it's what I've learned to sort of
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: hold the badge that I wear now as a family therapist,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: as an author, as a speaker, because I mean, as
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: you know, football is still a game. It's entertainment, you know.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: And I mean, of course it's been a blessing to
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys life too, you know, the blessed
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: their families in their livelihoods. But for me, it's been
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: about you know, leaving something or creating something that could
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: be um, very beneficial to those either that are here
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: or those that are coming behind me. And so that
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: that's sort of the bad stop I've learned to embrace
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: because you know, you you see a lot of athletes, man,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: they hold to what they used to do it. But
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: it used to be nothing wrong with that. But that
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: was just a very small segment of my life. And
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the life after that has been much more you know,
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: uh grant than that part. But I tell you it's
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: it's special though to say, you you you played in
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: the National Football League, because that's the number one sport
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: in America, and so that's a that's that's a probably
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: a great entry point to some opportunities for opens up
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: doors for you. And oh yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, yeah,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: you know, opening up a lot of doors. And even
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: though I didn't you know, have the career that I wanted,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: um and just having an opportunity and then just being
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: able you know, to to play a rain of ball
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: and just to you know, be you know, just just
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: to have an experience of a professional athlete was really
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: you know, a great opportunity. And then you know, as
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: as America and the people were, you know, we love
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: athletes who love the champions spirit, we love the warrior mentality,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: and so most definitely it opened up doors. Um also,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you know, and open up those doors. The education component
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: has allowed me to stay in the boom that the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: doors are open up to and be able to grab
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: your attention to people. So being able to have that
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: balance and being able to be seen as an athlete, educator,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: uh off evopen leader. You know, all of the intertwined together.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: You know, it's just really a powerful combination. There's really
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: interesting when I when I talked to individuals who who
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: have generated their early stages of success due to the physicality,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: you know, because you know that there's a period where
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: that cannot support you anymore. Did did you know what
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? Because you can only play football for so long,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: you can only run fast for so long, get only
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: dunkle ball for so long. You know, Like I've reading
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: the Vince Carter, he wants to come back one more
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: year and he's not the Vinceanity when he came out
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: was dominating and and hitting three pointers from half court.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: When when when? When? When? When it was time to
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: end your your successful run as a physical athlete, as
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: a physical generating your income. What decisions did you have
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to run through your mind and say, hey, it's time
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: to go, it's time to disconnect. Well, for me, it
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: was kind of like the decision was, um was made
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: for me because the opportunity wasn't there um for me.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: You know, the physical part of it that I was
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: in shape, Um, you know I was counted and not
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: of an actually effort. You know at the time, you
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: know Green Bay wanted to go a different direction. Um,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: and they was, and so UM I think you know,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: at that point I had other opportunities to to to
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: go work out and the trial and you know, UM,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: I remember having a phone called my agents, you know,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: well like okay, well you can go play Arena League.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: And then at the time they had NFL Europe, so
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: you know, Um, then you don't went through that process,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: and then you don't went through the process of going
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: to the Canadian League. I think for me, man emotionally
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I was just tired because at that point, you know,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out because you keep chasing its dream.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Um And and at some point, I think the majority
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: of the athletes, whether they had the career or not
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: or then and let's say they got there, they played
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: a few years and something that happened, They got hurt
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: and it got out and it was trying to get
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: back in. You know, eventually the dream feels like a nightmare,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, uh, you have to
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: have as they say that come to Jesus conversation talking
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: like a decision man, like you know, but at the time,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: I was like five years old, So it's like, dude,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I want to I mean, you know, you know how
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: there's a football man, you're you're old, you know what
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's like twenty seven years old. So and
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: as you um you know alluded to you, your your
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: your body has an expiration date on it. So you're
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: the only jump, run and do all those different things
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: for so long and and eventually you have to make
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: a decision um to move on. And that's really hard
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: for a lot of men. Um And you see guys
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: hold on as long as they can because, to be
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: honest with Sean, many of us, man, you know, um,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: you know, many of us we didn't prepare for that.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: After you know what I mean, we got we got there,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: and it's just like, oh, now this is not gonna
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: be for long because absolute as men, we put our
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: eggs all in one basket. I never forget having this
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: conversation with this guy playing for the Browns and at
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: the time, we're working on creating this coalition, on this
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: program for athletes who are either two or three years
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: removed or guys that are just coming into the league
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: to sort of help them get their mind right. And
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: he was a white guy. He said, the difference between
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: white players and black players. He said, when I came
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: into the league, I came into the league as a
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: businessman who was playing football. And he said, the majority
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: of the black players come into the league as football
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: players trying to do business. And so that disparity, man
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: just opened up my pause, and I'm just like, man,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: that's so real. And for them it's really a job,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's like they show up,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not at all or nothing. For them,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: there's a life after and for many of the ask
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: for the American players, it's like either this happened or
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: kift you know, it's back to you know square one.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question in the title
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Hello King, claim your throne, because I've seen throne used
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: in uh several of your books. What do you mean
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: when you say throne, claim your throne? What is what
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: is your What is your perception of a throne? My
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: perception of a throne has Claim your position and claim
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  Speaker 1: your position, and claim your position in this or claim
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  Speaker 1: your position in your community, Claim your position in the job,
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  Speaker 1: place in the school, wherever you reside, claim your position
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: in your position is this is where is what you represent?
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: You know where? Where is your state's planet? And wanted
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: them to know that your throne represents your territories, which
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: is your mind, body, and spirit. Claim your position in
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: those three elements because those three elements determines how are
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: you going to be remembered. It determines your decision, It
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: determines your behavior, It determines the generation that's within you,
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: either you know through your children, or it determines the
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  Speaker 1: general that you want to affect. So if we can
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: get see these young men to claim their position. Like
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: you hear often when there's discussions about black men in
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: the black community, people are often said, if black men
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: would just take their place, if they would just you know,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, so they would get fine
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: their positions. And so for me, it's just like, hey,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: man claim your throne. Man, get a position wherever that's
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: whatever that is for you, get a position. You know
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, And that's what I meant in charm
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: did that out because I know that's a defined, different
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  Speaker 1: meeting for everyone, And it was very important to tie
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• 52:33
  Speaker 1: that that that term means something, that adjective, that description
• 52:36
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