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- 0:29Speaker 3: You're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with Ben ferguson.
- 0:32Speaker 2: Good Wednesday morning nights.
- 0:33Speaker 4: Have you with us on the forty seven Morning Update,
- 0:36Speaker 4: and we've got a very big story for you. A
- 0:38Speaker 4: radical activist judge has now blocked the use of a
- 0:41Speaker 4: federal database to check citizenship, meaning that illegal immigrants and
- 0:46Speaker 4: others who shouldn't be voting in our elections are now
- 0:49Speaker 4: being protected.
- 0:51Speaker 2: So what happens next?
- 0:53Speaker 4: And the second part of this story is Senator Cruz
- 0:55Speaker 4: joins us to talk about this judge and how it
- 0:58Speaker 4: could work its way through the short system. But will
- 1:01Speaker 4: it have an impact on the midterm elections or could
- 1:04Speaker 4: they stall until the presidential elections in.
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- 3:02Speaker 3: Story number one.
- 3:03Speaker 2: The judge, a.
- 3:05Speaker 4: Judge, i should say, has shut down the Trump Admin
- 3:08Speaker 4: database used to remove non citizens from voter rules. And
- 3:13Speaker 4: this is now being celebrated by the left. Now, this was,
- 3:18Speaker 4: as I mentioned, I think it was yesterday you had
- 3:21Speaker 4: a Biden appointed federal judge that not only shut down
- 3:23Speaker 4: the database used to remove my citizens from voter rules.
- 3:26Speaker 4: But now the left is saying that this is a
- 3:28Speaker 4: massive victory. It's exactly what I predicted. They want lawlessness
- 3:34Speaker 4: in our country and especially in our elections. Now, our
- 3:37Speaker 4: elections are supposed to be American citizens vote, not illegal immigrants.
- 3:42Speaker 4: What's even more interesting is this seventy five page opinion
- 3:46Speaker 4: that was issued by Sparko L Suk Nunnan follows a
- 3:51Speaker 4: civil action suit against the Department of Homeland Security, the
- 3:55Speaker 4: Social Security Administration, and the State of Texas by parties
- 3:58Speaker 4: including the League of Women Voters. Now, this was a
- 4:01Speaker 4: very big opinion, and the decision set aside a modified
- 4:05Speaker 4: version of the systematic Alien Verification for entitlements known as
- 4:10Speaker 4: the SAVE system, and that was all created following the
- 4:13Speaker 4: Trump signed executive order to verify the citizenship or immigration
- 4:17Speaker 4: status of registered voters or individuals registered to vote. And
- 4:21Speaker 4: this was all put in place by the Department of
- 4:23Speaker 4: Owned Security and the Social Security Administration. So Nonen justified
- 4:27Speaker 4: vacating the SAVE system by citing quote two fundamental rights
- 4:31Speaker 4: that protect Americans from government overreach, namely that she said,
- 4:36Speaker 4: the right to privacy and the right to vote.
- 4:38Speaker 2: Now, she pointed to the.
- 4:40Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five modified version of the SAFE system as
- 4:43Speaker 4: the quote overreach as it included the records of natural
- 4:47Speaker 4: born American citizens direct access, she says to SSA sod
- 4:50Speaker 4: Security Administration records and allowed state users to conduct automated
- 4:54Speaker 4: bulk searches rather than individual inquiries.
- 4:58Speaker 2: Now, this is an activist judge.
- 5:00Speaker 4: When you dive into more of what she said, you
- 5:02Speaker 4: find out just how much more activists she actually is.
- 5:06Speaker 4: She said the database shared among several federal agencies, So
- 5:10Speaker 4: this is all federal agencies that have this information they're
- 5:12Speaker 4: cross checking. It basically contain private information on US citizens
- 5:16Speaker 4: and thus violates protections put in place by Congress to
- 5:20Speaker 4: prevent centralized data banks, including the computer matching and privacy protection.
- 5:26Speaker 2: Actually says in nineteen eighty eight, all right.
- 5:28Speaker 4: Translation, I don't want you to be able to check
- 5:32Speaker 4: in any way if someone is a citizen. So therefore,
- 5:35Speaker 4: I'm going to say that all the databases that we have,
- 5:38Speaker 4: and the same database that we have, you can't use
- 5:41Speaker 4: because I want illegal immigrants and dead people to be
- 5:44Speaker 4: able to vote in our elections. Why would you want
- 5:46Speaker 4: that to happen unless it's solely for one reason, and
- 5:49Speaker 4: that is for to commit voter fraud. Now, the defendants
- 5:54Speaker 4: argued that other, more specific immigration laws overrode the general
- 5:58Speaker 4: restrictions of the nineteen eight Act. Specifically, they pointed to
- 6:02Speaker 4: the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigration Responsibility Act of ninety six,
- 6:07Speaker 4: which actually mandates that the federal government responded to state
- 6:10Speaker 4: inquiries to verify the citizenship status of any individual. By
- 6:14Speaker 4: the way, Democrats hate that. The judge declared the argument
- 6:17Speaker 4: not a winner quote unquote, Like that's our actual words,
- 6:20Speaker 4: not a winner. I mean one hell of a llegal
- 6:22Speaker 4: brief when you just say, quote unquote, not a winner.
- 6:25Speaker 4: The judge also blocked the Federal Trade Commissions Anti trust
- 6:28Speaker 4: probe in a media matters by the way, just for
- 6:31Speaker 4: point of clarity here, and bar the executive branch from
- 6:33Speaker 4: deporting on accompanied migrant miners and reuniting them with their
- 6:38Speaker 4: families abroad. So you can't even do that. Now, this
- 6:40Speaker 4: is the same crazy judge. Now, this ruling comes as
- 6:43Speaker 4: both Republicans and Democrats are preparing for the upcoming midterm elections.
- 6:47Speaker 4: That's why this is has like it's a big deal
- 6:50Speaker 4: and it has big ramifications. Republican Utah Center Mike Lee
- 6:53Speaker 4: again is attempting to advance the Save America Act in
- 6:57Speaker 4: the Senate. But you have a problem there because you
- 6:58Speaker 4: have basically four scumback Republicans in the Senate that hate
- 7:01Speaker 4: Donald Trump and don't look at the eighty plus percent
- 7:04Speaker 4: of Americans that want the Save Act to pass, and
- 7:07Speaker 4: so they want to stick it to Donald Trump, and
- 7:08Speaker 4: so they're like, here's our middle finger. Like that's just
- 7:10Speaker 4: the truth of this. What is the Save Act? If
- 7:13Speaker 4: you don't know, it's real simple. It requires a government
- 7:15Speaker 4: issued ID to vote.
- 7:16Speaker 2: What a novel idea.
- 7:17Speaker 4: Lee centerally said this on Sunday on Fox News. Quote,
- 7:22Speaker 4: the American people overwhelmingly support this, regardless of political party.
- 7:26Speaker 4: Want to make it easy to vote, hard to cheat.
- 7:28Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that again. Want to make it easy
- 7:30Speaker 4: to vote, but hard to cheat. That's what the House
- 7:33Speaker 4: passed and that's what the Save Act actually does. Couldn't,
- 7:36Speaker 4: by the way, agree more with Lee on that one.
- 7:39Speaker 4: So when you look at the Save Act and you
- 7:41Speaker 4: look at this, what Democrats are now publicly saying and
- 7:45Speaker 4: celebrating is lawlessness, is actually making sure that lawlessness continues. Now,
- 7:52Speaker 4: the Save Act is also something else that's, by the way,
- 7:54Speaker 4: not controversial. More than eighty percent of American voters Republican Democrats.
- 7:58Speaker 2: That like want it.
- 8:00Speaker 4: The voter ID bill is now becoming even bigger issue
- 8:03Speaker 4: heading into the midterms, and these Republicans are stopping it.
- 8:06Speaker 2: Will they suck. Now.
- 8:08Speaker 4: What we're being told is President Trump is now gearing
- 8:10Speaker 4: up and going to be attending a closed door Senate
- 8:14Speaker 4: GOP lunch with John Thune while pushing for the Save Act.
- 8:19Speaker 4: Brett Bear Fox News Channel reporting this just a few minutes.
- 8:22Speaker 5: Agoation tonight as he pushes Senate Republicans to pass the
- 8:26Speaker 5: Save America Act. But that is creating another political problem.
- 8:31Speaker 5: Chief Congressional correspondent Chad Program shows us from Capitol Hill.
- 8:35Speaker 6: President Trump fixated on a singular goal.
- 8:38Speaker 1: We have to pass the Save America Act, which is
- 8:41Speaker 1: voter ID, which is proof of citizenship.
- 8:43Speaker 6: But he's not getting his way. There's no doubt.
- 8:46Speaker 7: The President is very frustrated with the speed of the Senate.
- 8:50Speaker 6: As am I. The President is exasperated at the Senate
- 8:53Speaker 6: struggling to approve the bill.
- 8:55Speaker 7: There, I suspect we'll get a talking to, but at
- 8:58Speaker 7: the same time we'll be able to convey to him.
- 9:00Speaker 6: The GOP numbers don't work. Talkin's good, Save ax O
- 9:04Speaker 6: waste of time. Some Senate Republicans are irritated that President
- 9:07Speaker 6: Trump incinerated GOP plans to renew the Anti Terrorism Program
- 9:11Speaker 6: fires A Section seven oh two and stymied rapid confirmation
- 9:15Speaker 6: of National Intelligence Director nominee Ja Clayton.
- 9:18Speaker 7: We have very candid conversations. I am very direct with
- 9:23Speaker 7: the President. I shoot straight with him and vice versa,
- 9:26Speaker 7: and you know, we at times have differences of opinion.
- 9:29Speaker 6: GOP. Florida Senator Rick Scott bypassed through and inviting the
- 9:32Speaker 6: President to Capitol Hill to pitch the Save America Act.
- 9:36Speaker 5: My experience in business is that you we sit down
- 9:38Speaker 5: with people and find out what their needs are and
- 9:39Speaker 5: try to solve it.
- 9:40Speaker 6: The President is pressuring Thoon.
- 9:42Speaker 2: John's a leader. That's what being his leader.
- 9:45Speaker 1: Beat John is a leader, and hopefully he can get
- 9:47Speaker 1: the votes.
- 9:47Speaker 6: Democrats anticipate intra party GOP fighting.
- 9:51Speaker 3: Trump only will talk to Senate Republicans behind closed doors,
- 9:55Speaker 3: and from what it looks like, that ain't going to
- 9:58Speaker 3: be pretty Now.
- 10:00Speaker 4: The President clearly is trying to get this done. The
- 10:03Speaker 4: Save Act isn't even controversial. American citizens should only be
- 10:08Speaker 4: the ones that vote in our elections. That is not controversial.
- 10:12Speaker 4: Congressman Wesley Hunt, African American, talking about this issue, and
- 10:16Speaker 4: it's an important one because Democrats say the Save Act
- 10:19Speaker 4: is going to actually disenfranchise African American voters that and
- 10:23Speaker 4: you want to talking about racism. Their actual argument is
- 10:26Speaker 4: you can't expect black people minorities to have a form
- 10:31Speaker 4: of government. ID Now, if that's not racism, one oh one,
- 10:34Speaker 4: I don't know what is Wesley Hunt saying this in Congress.
- 10:39Speaker 8: Take a listen, But if the United States is a
- 10:41Speaker 8: country worth preserving, then I think we must protect the
- 10:44Speaker 8: integrity of our elections and do everything in our power
- 10:47Speaker 8: to do just that. I am shocked at the Save Act,
- 10:49Speaker 8: which has already passed the House. Even controversial in safeguarding
- 10:52Speaker 8: our elections is the betrock of our democracy is something
- 10:55Speaker 8: that both sides, sides should easily support. They say that
- 10:58Speaker 8: non citizens voting in an election is a real issue,
- 11:00Speaker 8: or if some non citizens are ready for the vote,
- 11:02Speaker 8: because notificn amount to make a difference. Well, in my
- 11:05Speaker 8: homestate of Texas, we just removed thousands of non citizens
- 11:08Speaker 8: from voter rolls, and in some of these recently hotly
- 11:11Speaker 8: contested elections, that amount could even be enough to swing
- 11:16Speaker 8: an entire election. Undermining the integrity of elections is not
- 11:20Speaker 8: an oversight, it's a threat to democracy. I think is
- 11:23Speaker 8: tom that we as a body acknowledged that threat. Now
- 11:26Speaker 8: I'm sitting here right now, and I got to tell y'all,
- 11:28Speaker 8: I'm black, and I'm a veteran. I have six forms
- 11:31Speaker 8: of government ID six. I've been black from a whole life.
- 11:34Speaker 8: I've been a veteran since two thousand and when I
- 11:37Speaker 8: was at West Point. The insinuation that black and brown
- 11:39Speaker 8: people cannot get an ID to vote like every other citizen,
- 11:44Speaker 8: regardless of your race, religion, color, or creed is insulting.
- 11:47Speaker 8: I actually refer to this as the soft bigotry of
- 11:50Speaker 8: low expectations. We as all Americans, should want free and
- 11:55Speaker 8: fair elections. We aren't making it more difficult for people
- 11:58Speaker 8: to get an idea to vote. Every last black person
- 12:02Speaker 8: that I know in my life has the government ID.
- 12:05Speaker 8: We as a country have got to clean up our
- 12:07Speaker 8: rules to ensure that we have free and fair elections
- 12:10Speaker 8: regardless of your race, religion, color, or creed. And that's
- 12:13Speaker 8: why I reject the assertion that we, no matter what
- 12:17Speaker 8: color you are, cannot reach that very low bar of
- 12:21Speaker 8: having a government ID to figure out how to vote
- 12:23Speaker 8: for the leadership and the future of this country.
- 12:26Speaker 2: Could not agree more with what was said there by Wesley.
- 12:29Speaker 3: Hut next story number two, explain.
- 12:33Speaker 4: This judge what she has done here in a simplistic way.
- 12:38Speaker 4: What they were trying to do is make sure that
- 12:40Speaker 4: people that were not American citizens and those that are
- 12:43Speaker 4: not eligible vote would not be able to eligible to vote.
- 12:46Speaker 4: That doesn't seem controversial. The majority of Americans are in
- 12:49Speaker 4: favor of the Save Act. It's seventy five eighty percent
- 12:51Speaker 4: depending on what poll you look at. And this judge said, hey,
- 12:54Speaker 4: you guys can't crosscheck in different groups, like so security
- 12:58Speaker 4: can't work with others, and you guys know we're not
- 13:01Speaker 4: going to allow this to happen.
- 13:02Speaker 2: That was shocking.
- 13:04Speaker 9: Yeah, so I'm going to read from the Associated Press.
- 13:07Speaker 9: A federal judge on Monday ruled that a recently revamped
- 13:10Speaker 9: version of a federal tool central to the Trump administration's
- 13:13Speaker 9: effort to nationalize elections can no longer be used. US
- 13:18Speaker 9: District Court Judge Sparkle L. Suknnan I want you to
- 13:23Speaker 9: stop and think there's a friggin judge in America named
- 13:28Speaker 9: Sparkle L. Suknnon. By the way, she was a clerk
- 13:32Speaker 9: for Sonya Sotomayor. She's a radical leftist. I voted against
- 13:36Speaker 9: her confirmation, but she is a district judge in Washington,
- 13:40Speaker 9: d C. And Judge Sparkle sided with the advocacy groups
- 13:44Speaker 9: that argue that the recent upgrades to the program, called
- 13:48Speaker 9: the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements or Save, aggregated American
- 13:53Speaker 9: sensitive personal data in a way that could result in
- 13:56Speaker 9: voters being wrongly purged from voter rules. Quote. All in all,
- 14:01Speaker 9: the federal government has knowingly trampled on the privacy rights
- 14:04Speaker 9: of American citizens in a manner that threatens the sacred
- 14:07Speaker 9: right to vote, Sukanan said in an order explaining the decision,
- 14:13Speaker 9: this court cannot stand idly by while that happens. She says,
- 14:18Speaker 9: Congress had expressly prohibited the government from centralizing American's personal
- 14:21Speaker 9: identifying information, and the federal agencies that created the same
- 14:24Speaker 9: program quote knew that the database violates these statutory protections.
- 14:29Speaker 9: Now this is a liberal activist decision. It is also
- 14:36Speaker 9: a decision that doesn't make sense under the statute. The
- 14:42Speaker 9: statutes that she was looking at. Number one, the statute
- 14:46Speaker 9: is the Social Security Act, and the SO Security Act
- 14:50Speaker 9: requires quote so Security account numbers of record that are
- 14:54Speaker 9: obtained or maintained by persons pursuant any provision of law
- 14:58Speaker 9: shall be confidential, and no off authorized persons show disclose
- 15:01Speaker 9: any such Social Security account number or related record. Well,
- 15:04Speaker 9: you know what, Trump administration didn't disclose anyone Social Security
- 15:07Speaker 9: number that if they released, you know, your Social Security number,
- 15:14Speaker 9: that would be a violation of the so Security Act.
- 15:17Speaker 9: They didn't do that. So Security Act doesn't say the
- 15:20Speaker 9: federal government can't look at SOBI security numbers. Like the
- 15:23Speaker 9: government is one entity and it is a bizarre system
- 15:28Speaker 9: that says you have records that show if people are
- 15:31Speaker 9: illegal aliens or not. You the federal government are not
- 15:35Speaker 9: allowed to look at those records because a law says
- 15:37Speaker 9: you can't publicly disclose them to others. They didn't. There's
- 15:41Speaker 9: another there's another law called the Privacy Act, and the
- 15:45Speaker 9: Privacy Act they claim it violated this as well. But again,
- 15:51Speaker 9: the Privacy Act does not prohibit the federal government from
- 15:56Speaker 9: looking at its own records. I mean understand, this is
- 15:59Speaker 9: a ruling from a radical judge who's saying even though
- 16:03Speaker 9: the federal government, and initially this SAVE database was set
- 16:06Speaker 9: up to stop the federal government from giving government benefits,
- 16:12Speaker 9: giving welfare to illegal aliens. Now mind you. It is
- 16:15Speaker 9: illegal to give government benefits, to give welfare to illegal aliens.
- 16:19Speaker 9: Congress has passed that law over and over and over again.
- 16:23Speaker 9: And Democrats, when they're being completely split personality on this,
- 16:28Speaker 9: they will say repeatedly, well, we don't give welfare benefits
- 16:32Speaker 9: to illegal aliens. They'll say that over and over again.
- 16:34Speaker 9: They'll simultaneously say, dear God, we've got to give welfare
- 16:37Speaker 9: benefits to illegal aliens. What a monster would deny them?
- 16:40Speaker 9: So they say them both. Remember when every Democrat running
- 16:43Speaker 9: for president twenty twenty was asked, should we give free
- 16:46Speaker 9: health care to every illegal in America? And they all
- 16:48Speaker 9: raise their hand yep, yup, every one of them right
- 16:51Speaker 9: down the line. But at the end of the day,
- 16:55Speaker 9: Congress has passed repeated laws saying do not give welfare
- 16:58Speaker 9: benefits to illegal aliens. And Judge Sparkle and and look,
- 17:02Speaker 9: by the way, I think it is really impressive that
- 17:06Speaker 9: my little pony is now a federal judge. But I
- 17:10Speaker 9: just wish my little pony was not a Marxist. You
- 17:13Speaker 9: would think that Judge Sparkle, what would recognize something beautiful
- 17:18Speaker 9: like like the Constitution or federal law. It is insane
- 17:23Speaker 9: to say that the same Congress that says you cannot
- 17:26Speaker 9: give government benefits or welfare to illegal aliens somehow said,
- 17:32Speaker 9: but you're not allowed to look to see if anyone's
- 17:34Speaker 9: an illegal alien. Nope, you're the government is blindfolded from
- 17:38Speaker 9: looking at your own databases. I'm going to make another
- 17:40Speaker 9: prediction in this show. Decision will be reversed.
- 17:46Speaker 2: It will be when and how quickly.
- 17:48Speaker 9: I don't know how quickly it might be reversed by
- 17:52Speaker 9: the d C Circuit. If it's not reversed by the
- 17:55Speaker 9: d C Circuit, I think it will be reversed by
- 17:57Speaker 9: the US Supreme Court. What I don't know is if
- 18:00Speaker 9: it gets reversed in time for the election. Part of
- 18:03Speaker 9: the strategy of the litigans is delay, and generally speaking,
- 18:09Speaker 9: these decisions can take a lot of time. Now, the
- 18:12Speaker 9: Department of Justice likely will seek emergency relief from the
- 18:16Speaker 9: d C Circuit. Now, it will depend on what panel
- 18:18Speaker 9: of judges you get. You get three random judges on
- 18:21Speaker 9: the DC Circuit, and then if the DC Circuit the
- 18:27Speaker 9: probably the biggest danger is they seek emergency relief in
- 18:31Speaker 9: the d C Circuit and they get a bad draw
- 18:33Speaker 9: of left wing judges in the d C Circuit, and
- 18:36Speaker 9: what I predict they would do then is just try
- 18:38Speaker 9: to delay it till after the elections. They just slow
- 18:40Speaker 9: walk it and it's and that's.
- 18:43Speaker 4: Can make sure that they don't have any of this
- 18:45Speaker 4: emit for election day so you can have more people
- 18:47Speaker 4: that can vote.
- 18:48Speaker 9: I legally yes, and so if you get a good
- 18:53Speaker 9: panel on the DC Circuit, I am quite confident this
- 18:56Speaker 9: will be reversed. And by the way, if the d
- 18:58Speaker 9: C Circuit upholds the decision, I think the Supreme Court
- 19:02Speaker 9: would take the case and reverse it. But in the
- 19:05Speaker 9: normal course of things, that would take a couple of years,
- 19:08Speaker 9: so that would not impact the twenty sixth election. It
- 19:10Speaker 9: would probably be in time for the twenty eight election.
- 19:13Speaker 9: My hope is they take an emergency appeal and the
- 19:16Speaker 9: DC Circuit overturns it quickly, or even if the DC
- 19:19Speaker 9: Circuit rejects the appeal, I want them to make a
- 19:22Speaker 9: decision fast because then they could appeal that to the Supremes.
- 19:25Speaker 9: I think the Supremes would act quickly. The danger is
- 19:28Speaker 9: the DC Circuit slow walks it for another six months.
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