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Mental Health or Ideology? The Transgender Question Fueling America's Debate · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Back to back public shootings have now prompted a real question,
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Speaker 1: a real moment of reflection on the history of transgendered
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Speaker 1: mass killers. Now, the media and the left is not
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Speaker 1: going to want to have this conversation, and they're going
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Speaker 1: to say that you're being transphobic by even bringing it up.
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Speaker 1: But we need to talk about the reality that in
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Speaker 1: less than a week, eight people were murdered in two
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Speaker 1: separate public shootings, one in a Canadian school and another
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Speaker 1: in Rhode Island, committed by two self identified transgendered women.
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Speaker 1: What does that mean. It means they are men, biological men. Now,
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Speaker 1: the back to back massacres have reignited the allegations from
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Speaker 1: conservative pundits. Is how one news channel put it, that
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Speaker 1: transgendered ideology and individuals are more prone to violence, and
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Speaker 1: that the re that transgender people engage in mass shootings
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Speaker 1: is explicitly tied to their gender identity problems. Now, we
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Speaker 1: used to treat this as a mental health issue, but
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Speaker 1: no longer can you do that in this country because
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Speaker 1: there's so many in the media, Hollywood, in the left
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Speaker 1: that say that's transphobic. But hours after a fifty six
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Speaker 1: year old by the name of Robert Dorgan, also known
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Speaker 1: as roberta open fire Monday night in an ice rink
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Speaker 1: where his son was playing hockey, killing his ex wife,
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Speaker 1: one of his children, and then himself. The Democratic Rhode
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Speaker 1: Island governor made no mention of Dorgan's documented history of
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Speaker 1: mental illness or transgendered identity, instead chalking the shooting to
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Speaker 1: be another incident, as he described it, of gun violence. Now,
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Speaker 1: to be clear, Democrats don't actually want to deal with
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Speaker 1: this issue because dealing with the ishoe wouldn't mean they'd
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Speaker 1: actually have to take a different stance with the LGBTQI
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Speaker 1: plus radical community. Too many Rhode Islanders know what it
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Speaker 1: feels like to lose a love one to gun violence,
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Speaker 1: the governor said, again, not talking about the mental illness
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Speaker 1: and the transgendered identity of the shooter. The governor's brief
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Speaker 1: video message garnered strong criticism, as it should, particularly from
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Speaker 1: social media conservatives who said they've had enough Rhode Island
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Speaker 1: right on Q blaming the guns after a transgender shooter
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Speaker 1: kills family members and self in a horrific hockey arena rampage.
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Speaker 1: Another conservative put online, too many Rhode Islanders know what
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Speaker 1: it feels like to lose a loved one to gun violence.
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Speaker 1: That's the line they're going to go with. Well, to
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Speaker 1: be clear, that's exactly what they're going with now. Dorgan
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Speaker 1: underwent we now know gender reassignment surgery and ultimately causing
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Speaker 1: his wife to divorce him. According to court filings obtained
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Speaker 1: by local station WPRII, his narcissistic plus personality disorder traits
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Speaker 1: were also listed as a reason for his marriage's breakdown,
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Speaker 1: but his gener identities served as a point of contention
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Speaker 1: in court battles for years following the shooting. Dorgan's daughter
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Speaker 1: confirmed her father's suffered from mental health issues and was
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Speaker 1: quote very sick. I want you to just pause what
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Speaker 1: you're doing for the next sixty seconds, and I want
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Speaker 1: you to imagine Lucy a seven year old. Her stomach
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Speaker 1: often aches with hunger, her small hands instead of holding crayons,
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Speaker 1: not only the struggle of survival on dusty streets. School
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Speaker 1: is a distant dream, medical care forgotten, hope. Lucy's potential
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Speaker 1: is overshadowed, Her future is dim. But what if if
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Speaker 1: That's Compassion dot com, which brings us to the other shooting.
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Speaker 1: On February the tenth, a guy by the name of Jesse,
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Speaker 1: an eighteen year old Canadian who has identified as a
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Speaker 1: girl since he was twelve years old, murdered his mother
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Speaker 1: and stepbrother before traveling to tumblr Ridge Secondary School, where
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Speaker 1: he shot and killed five students and one teacher. The
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Speaker 1: shooting marked the deadliest shooting in British Columbia's history. The
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Speaker 1: man was found dead of self inflicted gunshot wound. Like Dorgan,
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Speaker 1: this individual had a documented history of mental illness issues.
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Speaker 1: The Deputy Commissioner of the Royal Canadian mount Police said
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Speaker 1: that officers visited the man's home multiple occasions over the
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Speaker 1: past several years dealing with concerns of mental health with
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Speaker 1: respect to our suspect. In one instance, police sees firearms
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Speaker 1: under the Criminal Code. He was apprehended on several occasions
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Speaker 1: for assessment under the Mental Health Act. The man claimed
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Speaker 1: on a reddited account linked to him that he was
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Speaker 1: diagnosed with ADHD and OCD. He also said that he
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Speaker 1: was on antidepressants in twenty twenty three and that he
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Speaker 1: had been prescribed antipsychotics, both classes of drugs accused by
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Speaker 1: the Department of Health and Human Services Secretary RFK Junior
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Speaker 1: of causing people more likely to commit shootings. Now, regardless
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Speaker 1: of what the media in the left says, we have
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Speaker 1: clear evidence that there are far too many transshooters and
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Speaker 1: shootings that are happening in this country. Prior to these
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Speaker 1: two most recent shootings, there was another school shooting that
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Speaker 1: was committed by a trans person that occurred in August
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Speaker 1: of last year. It was a twenty three year old
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Speaker 1: Robin Westman, a transgendered woman meaning a dude. He opened
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Speaker 1: fired during a Catholic church mass killing two children, and
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Speaker 1: like the most recent transhooter, Westman had a lengthy history
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Speaker 1: of you guessed it mental illness and killed himself on
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Speaker 1: the scene in disturbing manifesto, Westman wrote that he was
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Speaker 1: tired of being trans and wished he never brainwashed himself.
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Speaker 1: The mass shooting spark national outcry and concerns about the
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Speaker 1: mental well being of trans people, prompting Democratic leaders like
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Speaker 1: the Minneapolis mayor Jacob Fry to come to the defense
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Speaker 1: of the transgender community, saying quote, I have heard about
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Speaker 1: a whole lot of hate that's being directed in our
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Speaker 1: trans community. Anybody who is using this as an opportunity
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Speaker 1: to villainize our trans community or any other community out there,
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Speaker 1: has lost their sense of common humanity. We should not
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Speaker 1: be operating out of a place of hate for anyone now.
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Speaker 1: In the wake of that Catholic church mass shooting, Charlie Kirk,
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Speaker 1: at the time, the founder of Turning Point, called for
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Speaker 1: transgender Americans to not be allowed to own guns. Of course,
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Speaker 1: that set off the trans community. Charlie Kirk even tweeted
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Speaker 1: this quote, if you're crazy enough to want to hormonally
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Speaker 1: or surgically change your sex, you have a mental disorder,
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Speaker 1: and you are too crazy to own a firearm. That
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Speaker 1: became a rallying cry for even the assassin who took
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Speaker 1: out Charlie Kirk. Tyler Robinson was in a relationship with
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Speaker 1: a transgendered woman, meaning a dude. Transgender advocacy groups accused
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Speaker 1: conservative leaders like myself, of course, of demonizing the transgender
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Speaker 1: community by telling you these facts by saying mass shootings
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Speaker 1: committed by trans people are linked to their transgenderism. Glad
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Speaker 1: pointed to the Gun Violence Archives data, saying it's just
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Speaker 1: not true. But what we do know is time after time, now,
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Speaker 1: shooting after shooting, we are witnessing now more and more
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Speaker 1: individuals who are trans who are going out there and killing.
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Speaker 1: And that is the saddest part of all, is that
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Speaker 1: the left won't look at the real mental health issue
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Speaker 1: and try to not only save the lives of the innocent,
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Speaker 1: but also the lives of the shooter. So the DOJ
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Speaker 1: has issued new subpoenas in the Russian election interference case.
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Speaker 1: But I want to take you back and remind you
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Speaker 1: quickly of what got us to where we are today
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Speaker 1: in this accountability. After the twenty sixteen election, US intelligence
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Speaker 1: agencies run by you guessed it, the radicals and the
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Speaker 1: deep state, including the FBI, the CIA, and the NSA,
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Speaker 1: concluded that the Russian government directed a broad influence campaign
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Speaker 1: targeting the US election with a goal of undermining confidence
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Speaker 1: in the democratic process and harming they say, Hillary Clinton's campaign. Now,
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Speaker 1: they assessed that the Russian president Vladimir Putin quote preferred
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump as the eventual winner, though they did not
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Speaker 1: allege precise vote tampering or directly changing the results. It
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Speaker 1: was simply done as a mind game to screw with
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Speaker 1: those on election day and forcing them into trying to
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Speaker 1: go with Hillary Clinton. Well after Donald Trump shocked the world,
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Speaker 1: the deep state decided they had to fight back, even
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Speaker 1: though the people elected him as president. Fast forward to
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Speaker 1: the Special Council Robert Mueller being appointed in twenty seventeen
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Speaker 1: to investigate both the Russian interference and whether there was
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Speaker 1: criminal conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia. Now, the
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Speaker 1: findings on the interference were pretty clear. Muller's report documented
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Speaker 1: that Russia engaged in a quote sweeping and systematic influence effort,
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Speaker 1: including cyber hacking and disinformation tactics. Then they said there
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Speaker 1: was a social media operation. A Russian organization called Internet
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Speaker 1: Research Agency or IRA ran extensive social media campaigns aimed
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Speaker 1: at sowing political division in the US and at times
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Speaker 1: amplifying support for Trump. Policies and criticism they claimed of
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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. And then there was the hacking and the leaks.
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Speaker 1: Russian intelligence operatives they said hacked the Democratic Party systems,
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Speaker 1: including the Clinton campaign, the DNC, and release still in
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Speaker 1: material through intermediaries like Wiki leaks. Now, at the end
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Speaker 1: of the day, what we found out was reality, There
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Speaker 1: was no criminal conspiracy. This was all made up in
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Speaker 1: a lie to attack and undermine Donald Trump and ultimately
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Speaker 1: to get Donald Trump out of office. It was a
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Speaker 1: coup to impeach Donald Trump. The Muller investigation ultimately found
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Speaker 1: no sufficient evidence that the Trump campaign or its associates
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Speaker 1: conspired in any way or coordinated with Russian government efforts
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Speaker 1: in a way that met federal criminal law standards. So
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Speaker 1: you look at that reality and just reminding you of
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Speaker 1: how we got to where we are today. And then
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Speaker 1: there's the big question of accountability. When the government went rogue,
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Speaker 1: undermine the American people, the will of the people, and
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Speaker 1: to try to overthrow a president of the United States America,
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Speaker 1: was there ever going to be accountability for that? Fast
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Speaker 1: forward to now what we are learning and you're going
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Speaker 1: to love this. The Justice Department has now issued new
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Speaker 1: subpoenas in a Florida based investigation targeting individuals who pursued
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Speaker 1: actions against then President Donald Trump, as well as examining
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Speaker 1: the US government's response to the Russian interference in the
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election that, according to people familiar with the matter,
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Speaker 1: an initial wave of subpoenas in November asks recipients for
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Speaker 1: documents related to the preparation of a US intelligence community
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Speaker 1: assessment that detailed a sweeping, multi pronged effort by Moscow
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Speaker 1: to help Trump defeat the Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton to
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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Now that the first subpoenas requested documents from
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Speaker 1: the months surrounding the January twenty seventeen publication of the
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Speaker 1: Obama administration intelligence assessment, the latest subpoenas seek any records
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Speaker 1: from the years since then, said that people who spoke
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Speaker 1: on condition of anonymity to the Associated Press to discuss
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Speaker 1: a non public demand from investigators. Now The Justice Department
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Speaker 1: declined to comment as well on this new breaking news.
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Speaker 1: The subpoenas represent continued investigative activity in one of several
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Speaker 1: criminal inquiries the Justice Department has undertaken, and did Trump's
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Speaker 1: political opponents. An array of former intelligence and law enforcement
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Speaker 1: officials have received subpoenas, and lawyers now for former CIA
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Speaker 1: director John Brennan, who helped oversee the drafting of the assessment,
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Speaker 1: have said they have been in formed that he is
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Speaker 1: a target, but have not been told of any quote
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Speaker 1: legally justifiable basis they claim for undertaking this investigation. Now
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Speaker 1: that brings us back to that exact story of what
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Speaker 1: happened late last year. Greta Vancestram had this to say
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Speaker 1: as she talked to Jim Jordan's about the beginnings of
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Speaker 1: this investigation.
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Speaker 2: Former CIA director John Brennan, who hates President Trump and
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Speaker 2: says Trump is a national security risk, is in hot water. Yesterday,
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Speaker 2: the House Judiciary Committee referred Brennan to the Justice Department
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Speaker 2: for criminal prosecution. Why well, the criminal referral letter says
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Speaker 2: that the former CIA director knowingly made false statements to
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Speaker 2: Congress about his alleged role in the quote Russia collusion hoax.
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Speaker 2: In the criminal referral letter to Attorney General Pan Bondi,
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Speaker 2: how Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan wrote, quote Brennan's testimony
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Speaker 2: before the Committee on May eleventh, twenty twenty three, was
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Speaker 2: a brazen attempt to knowingly and will testify falsely and
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Speaker 2: fictitiously two material facts end quote. Earlier, I spoke with
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Speaker 2: the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan.
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Speaker 2: Mister Chairman, nice to speak to, sir.
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Speaker 3: Gonna be with you. Greta.
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Speaker 2: You have made a criminal referral to the Department of Justice.
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Speaker 2: Tell me what it is and why.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you're not supposed to lie. We all
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Speaker 3: know that, and you're definitely not supposed to lie when
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Speaker 3: you're under oath talking to Congress. I mean, this is
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Speaker 3: you know this, Greta, as a skilled counselor like you are.
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Speaker 3: Eighteen USC. Section one thousand and one, you're not supposed
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Speaker 3: to do that. And it sure looks like that's exactly
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Speaker 3: what John Brennan did. He told us he wasn't involved
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Speaker 3: at all with the dossier when they put the Intelligence
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Speaker 3: Community assessment. He said he didn't want it referenced in
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Speaker 3: the Intelligence Community assessment back in twenty sixteen seventeen. And
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Speaker 3: yet because of Director of National Intelligence Tulsea Gabbert declassifying
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Speaker 3: a House Intelligence Committee's report, it looks like that is
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Speaker 3: exactly wrong what and said, because in that report, they said,
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Speaker 3: John Brennan put in writing, yes, include the dossier in
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Speaker 3: the UH in the Intelligence community assessment, And there was
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Speaker 3: a situation where one individual at the CIA approached mister
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Speaker 3: Brennan and said, Hey, this dossier doesn't stand up. The
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Speaker 3: under the underlying intelligence is just not there. It's it's
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Speaker 3: it's garbage. It shouldn't be in the report. And mister
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Speaker 3: Brennan's response was, yeah, but doesn't it seem right, doesn't
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Speaker 3: it fit? I mean, he was out to get the president.
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Speaker 3: I think that's obvious from UH from what what uh
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Speaker 3: OD and I Director Gabbard declassified and made available to
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Speaker 3: to the public. So I don't do many of these
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Speaker 3: really over the years, haven't done many referrals because I
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Speaker 3: think it's got to be really solid before you do
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Speaker 3: something like this. But this is one where I think
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Speaker 3: the the evidence is clear. Mister Brennan told us under
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Speaker 3: oath he was not involved with the dossier, it wasn't used,
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Speaker 3: when in fact it was.
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Speaker 1: Now it's very clear from what you just heard there
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Speaker 1: from Congressman Jim Jordan that the former CIA director John
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Speaker 1: Brennan is an individual who hated Trump and at all
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Speaker 1: costs was willing to do whatever it took to take
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Speaker 1: him down. And you can look at the Intelligence community
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Speaker 1: assessment that was published in the final days of the
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Speaker 1: Obama administration. It found that Russia had quote developed a
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Speaker 1: clear preference their words for Trump in the twenty sixteen election,
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Speaker 1: and that Russian President Putin had ordered an influence campaign
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Speaker 1: with the goals of undermining confidence in American democracy or
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Speaker 1: harming Clinton's chance of victory. This was all well a lie.
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Speaker 1: That conclusion and a related investigation to whether the twenty
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Speaker 1: sixteen Trump campaign concluded with Russia to sway the outcome
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Speaker 1: of the election has long been among the Republican president's
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Speaker 1: chief grievances, as it should be, and Trump vowed to
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Speaker 1: make sure that there was transparency on the issue. We
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Speaker 1: also know that the former FBI Director James Comy was
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Speaker 1: indicted by the Trump administration last year on false statement
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Speaker 1: and obstruction charges. Those cases were later dismissed. Multiple government reports,
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Speaker 1: including bipartison congression reviews, and a criminal investigation by the
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Speaker 1: former Special Counsel Robert Mueller, have found that Russia interfered,
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Speaker 1: they claim, in Trump's favor through a hack and leak
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Speaker 1: operation of democratic emails, as well as a covert social
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Speaker 1: media campaign aimed at sowing discord and swaying American public opinion.
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Speaker 1: Now all of this is now coming to a head,
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Speaker 1: and Donald Trump's administration is now freshly scrutinizing the intelligence
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Speaker 1: community's assessment, and in part because a classified version of
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Speaker 1: it's incorporated in its annex a summary of the Steele dossier,
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Speaker 1: as well as a complication of Democratic fund opposition research
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Speaker 1: that was assembled by the liar, you know, the former
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Speaker 1: British spy Christopher Steele, that would be the Still dossier,
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Speaker 1: and was provided to the FBI. That research into Trump's
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Speaker 1: potential leaks to Russia included uncorroborated rumors and salacious gossip,
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Speaker 1: and Trumps long held up that as the weakness in
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Speaker 1: an effort to make it clear that the entire Russia
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Speaker 1: investigation was a hoax from the very beginning. Now, the
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Speaker 1: investigation in Florida appears to be part of a broader
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Speaker 1: effort to revisit year's old findings and decisions from the
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Speaker 1: Russian investigation. A declassified CIA tradecraft review revealed last July
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Speaker 1: by current Director John Ratcliffe did not refute the conclusion
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Speaker 1: of Russian election interference, but found quote multiple procedural abnormality
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Speaker 1: in the intelligence community's assessment and chided Brennan for the
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Speaker 1: fact that the classified version referenced the Steel dossier, which
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Speaker 1: they knew was user generated in a lie. Finally, Brennan
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Speaker 1: testified to Congress and also wrote in his memoir that
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Speaker 1: he was opposed to including information from the dossier in
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Speaker 1: the intelligence assessment since neither its substance nor sources had
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Speaker 1: been validated, and he said the dossier did not inform
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Speaker 1: the judgments of the assessment. He continues to maintain the
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Speaker 1: FBI pushed for its inclusion. One thing's for sure, someone's lying.
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Speaker 1: More than likely a lot of people are lying. And
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Speaker 1: the big question now is will there be accountability for this? Well,
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what this investigation clearly seems to be doing,
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Speaker 1: Cons that's, Great, OKAY i have no issue with. THAT
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Speaker 1: i don't hold that against. Him if that's how you,
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Speaker 1: rehabilitate you come, back that's. Wonderful and what the mayor's
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Speaker 1: stand for that is actually the threat to society and
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Speaker 1: the people Of New York. City now he's also The
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Speaker 1: City department Of corrections Former Deputy commissioner Of programs And.
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Speaker 1: Operations so this guy's like knee deep in it all.
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Speaker 1: Right let me tell you his background so you understand
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Speaker 1: what we're dealing with. Here richards was convicted of robbery
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Speaker 1: in the late nineteen eighties and served two and a
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Speaker 1: half years On Rikers island before doing an additional four
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Speaker 1: and a half years in state prison, that according to news,
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Speaker 1: reports he was released in ninety. One in his, Remarks
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Speaker 1: richard Supported mandannie's progressive vision of corrections and rejected what
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Speaker 1: he described as a punishment centered approach to. Incarceration, okay
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Speaker 1: so let's be clear what that, means because that's a
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Speaker 1: lot of like new age bs, there and we're just
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Speaker 1: going to break it down what this dude and What
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Speaker 1: mondanni have. Said and this is what we Know mandannia.
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Speaker 1: Said so it's this. Again come as no. SURPRISE i
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Speaker 1: say it over and over. Again when they tell you
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Speaker 1: how crazy they, are believe, Them, okay like just believe.
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Speaker 1: Them always believe them when they show their true colors
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Speaker 1: of how insane they actually. Are what they believe is
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Speaker 1: that you should not punish someone for the crimes they,
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Speaker 1: commit but, instead in, essence you should give them like
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Speaker 1: a warm. Hug you should embrace them and be like it's,
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Speaker 1: okay little, timmy and treat them like a. Child they
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Speaker 1: don't believe if you commit a heinous crime that you
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Speaker 1: should be held accountable for that heinous. Crime that is
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Speaker 1: something they, say absolutely not all, Right like they believe
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Speaker 1: that that is just straight up, wrong and that holding
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Speaker 1: people in jail is. Wrong holding people in jail is
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Speaker 1: something that they believe is fundamentally, evil no matter really
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Speaker 1: what you've. Done that's why they go back to prison
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Speaker 1: reform and jail, reform which is what they are obsessed.
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Speaker 1: With they're obsessed with prison, reform jail, reform and abolishing the.
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Speaker 1: POLICE i want to remind, You mandonni said he wanted
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Speaker 1: to get rid of all. Police mandonni thinks that ice
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Speaker 1: officers and The gestapo, right that they're the worst people
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Speaker 1: in the. World mandanni believes that law enforcement are evil
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Speaker 1: and the bad guys are somehow. Good. Quote i'm going
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Speaker 1: to go back to this, guy all. Right today we
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Speaker 1: turn the page and we start a new era Under Mayor,
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Speaker 1: Mandanni richard. Said richard is taking over jail system in.
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Speaker 1: Crisis according to, reports in recent, years the jails have
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Speaker 1: been played with staff, misconduct, violence and drug. Overdoses at
27:42
Speaker 1: least seventy six people died in custody between twenty nineteen
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Speaker 1: and twenty twenty, five including fifteen alone last, year according
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Speaker 1: to city. Data AND i planned to close the facility
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Speaker 1: and replace it with Similar borough based facilities has. Stalled
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Speaker 1: in the face of a rising jail population and political.
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Speaker 1: Resistance according to report By Fox, news the appointment comes
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Speaker 1: As New York city jail system remains under heightened federal.
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Speaker 1: Scrutiny earlier this, week federal judge appointed an outside remediation
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Speaker 1: manager to oversee reforms At Rikers islands after years of,
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Speaker 1: violence staff, shortages and federal court findings that city leadership
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Speaker 1: failed to fix the conditions inside the. Jail, rikers by The,
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Speaker 1: way was originally said to be demolished By august of
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven by former Mayor Bill. Deblasio under That rikers,
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Speaker 1: Closure plantennes would be moved to four other jails under,
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Speaker 1: construction and every borough But Staten. Island all, Right so
28:41
Speaker 1: now you understand the, background, Right that's how you defund the.
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Speaker 1: Police this is how you do prison reform and bail.
28:47
Speaker 1: Reform you say everything that happens is somehow bad and
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Speaker 1: evil and to the people that were actually committing bad
28:54
Speaker 1: and evil, crimes and then you get rid of the
28:57
Speaker 1: punishment for them and you give them A coombay islet's
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Speaker 1: hug it out. Plan that's what the, socialists communists And marxist.
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Speaker 3: Wants.
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Speaker 1: Now nearly seven years. Later here's the other thing about.
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Speaker 1: Liberals the one thing they're really good at is spending
29:10
Speaker 1: money costs a. Balloon and the jails are not close
29:13
Speaker 1: to being, ready all. Right so the corruption in these
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Speaker 1: new jails that they were building to Replace Rikers island
29:20
Speaker 1: and the old jail have skyrocketed and they're not even
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Speaker 1: close to being, ready because that's what happens when you
29:26
Speaker 1: have government corruption involved in mark my, Word i'm sure
29:29
Speaker 1: there's plenty of, ANNs, uncles, cousins best, Friends bubba's sisters
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Speaker 1: that are getting paid on the corruption of these jails
29:35
Speaker 1: that they're. Building the mayor says people were ready to
29:38
Speaker 1: work with the federally appointed, manager, saying, quote my administration
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Speaker 1: has and we look forward to working with the Remediation
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Speaker 1: manager on improving conditions in our city's, jails both for
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Speaker 1: those in custody and for corrections officers, mandown he said
29:51
Speaker 1: in his. Statement, now The department Of corrections employees more
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Speaker 1: than seventy two hundred, people including nearly five thousand uniformed,
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Speaker 1: officers organized in the Correct Officers Benevolent association known AS.
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Speaker 1: Cobra in a statement posts ON, X Corrections officers been
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Speaker 1: An Evolent Association. President so the jails cannot and will
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Speaker 1: not operate as safely as possible if the concerns of
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Speaker 1: our members are brushed. Aside he, says it's our hope
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Speaker 1: that Mister richards understands the dynamics and he takes on
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Speaker 1: this new role and demonstrates a commitment to putting safety
30:25
Speaker 1: and security before political. Ideology now here's the. Problem they're
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Speaker 1: not gonna do. That why they've made it clear what they.
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Speaker 1: Believe they believe that jails are bad and we should
30:37
Speaker 1: shut them down and close. Them they believe that bad
30:39
Speaker 1: guys shouldn't go to. Jail they believe that the police
30:42
Speaker 1: are the bad. Guys they believe that federal law enforcement
30:46
Speaker 1: are are literally The. Nazis so if you think they're
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Speaker 1: gonna fix, this you're. Insane don't. Forget share this podcast
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