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Liberals Kill Spirit, Tucker's Antichrist Talk & Cuban Island Intrigue w Squad Member Jayapaul Week In Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in his verdict with Ted Cruz Weekend Review, Ben
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  Speaker 1: Ferguson with you, and these are the stories you may
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  Speaker 1: have missed that we talked about this week.
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  Speaker 2: First up, you may.
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  Speaker 1: Not realize that Spirit Airlines could have been saved a
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  Speaker 1: couple years ago. The Democrats stopped it on purpose. Why
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  Speaker 1: do they do it? We've got the receipts, and we'll
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  Speaker 1: explain exactly what liberals were behind destroying another American airline,
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  Speaker 1: costing thousands of people their jobs. Also, Tucker Carlson's now
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  Speaker 1: saying Donald Trump is the Antichrist, and then when he's
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  Speaker 1: called out on it, he says he never said it.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is it's on video.
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  Speaker 1: And finally, why is it that there are members of
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  Speaker 1: the United States Congress that are working on behalf of
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  Speaker 1: Cuba right now to try to help the regime. We'll
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  Speaker 1: explain that as well. It's the week in Review and
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  Speaker 1: it starts right now. Let's talk about another aspect of this,
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  Speaker 1: and it was the there was a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 1: fodder online and there was a lot of media reports
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  Speaker 1: that will maybe America would would give the government, would
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  Speaker 1: give a bailout, We'd own you know, eighty ninety percent
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  Speaker 1: of the company, whatever the number was.
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  Speaker 3: Ultimately that did not happen.
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  Speaker 1: Explain I hear bailout, and I always get real cringing.
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  Speaker 1: We've had some that have been really good where we've
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  Speaker 1: got our money back as taxpayers, but in this scenario,
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  Speaker 1: there's many that say, you know what, it makes me
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  Speaker 1: really nervous.
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  Speaker 3: It did not happen.
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  Speaker 1: But can you explain how the government getting involved with
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  Speaker 1: that and how that works and who's making that decision
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  Speaker 1: of saying yes or no.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So this last week there was considerable discussion about the
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  Speaker 4: Trump administration potentially bailing out Spirit Airlines, and the bailout
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  Speaker 4: that was being discussed was the federal government would give
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  Speaker 4: Spirit Airlines five hundred million dollars and in exchange for that,
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  Speaker 4: the federal government would own ninety.
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  Speaker 5: Percent of the airline.
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  Speaker 4: And there were differences of opinions within the administration on that.
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  Speaker 4: So the Secretary of Transportation, Sean Duffy, was vocally argued
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  Speaker 4: against that, saying that's a bad idea. Howard Lutnik, the
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  Speaker 4: Secretary of Commerce, was the one who was advocating this idea.
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  Speaker 4: I publicly came out against it, and I came out loudly.
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  Speaker 4: I sent a tweet a little over a week ago
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  Speaker 4: that said the following quote, this is an absolutely terrible idea.
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  Speaker 4: The TARP corporate bailouts were a huge mistake, and the
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  Speaker 4: government doesn't know a damn thing about running a failed
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  Speaker 4: budget airline that the Biden administration killed. Now, when I
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  Speaker 4: said that, I'm the chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee,
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  Speaker 4: which has jurisdiction over reaviation. When I came out against it,
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  Speaker 4: that got quite a bit of media attention, and it
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  Speaker 4: prompted a number of other members of Congress spoke out
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  Speaker 4: against it after I did so. I will tell you, Ben,
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  Speaker 4: that was my public statement. I also went week. I
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  Speaker 4: had dinner with Howard Ludnik. Howard is a friend. He
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  Speaker 4: and I worked together very very closely. He's the Secretary
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  Speaker 4: of Commerce, and the Commerce Committee is is the Senate
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  Speaker 4: committee that has jurisdiction over the Commerce Department. So Howard
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  Speaker 4: and I had dinner last week, and a good chunk
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  Speaker 4: of the dinner was spent discussing the potential Spirit bailout.
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  Speaker 4: And I will tell you one on one with Howard,
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  Speaker 4: it was just the two of us having dinner. I
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  Speaker 4: leaned in really hard and said, this is an absolutely
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  Speaker 4: horrible idea. Corporate bailouts are a bad, bad strategy. They
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  Speaker 4: were a bad strategy when we did TARP. They're a
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  Speaker 4: bad strategy when you had the government coming in and
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  Speaker 4: bailing out giant corporations. But they're particularly bad when the
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  Speaker 4: government doesn't know a damn thing about the business. And
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  Speaker 4: so if we'd ended up giving five hundred million dollars
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  Speaker 4: to Spirit and having the federal government own ninety percent
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  Speaker 4: of Spirit number one, I believe we would have lost
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  Speaker 4: our money. In fact, I had said, somewhat cynically, a
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  Speaker 4: better idea was simply to put five hundred million dollars
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  Speaker 4: in a pile on the floor, pour gasoline on it,
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  Speaker 4: and light it, because then at least you'd get some warmth.
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  Speaker 4: You could like roast marshmallows by it. That would get
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  Speaker 4: something positive and beneficial from it. But fundamentally, who in
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  Speaker 4: their right mind thinks the federal government knows anything about
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  Speaker 4: how you run an airline? How do you set pilot schedules,
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  Speaker 4: how do you run baggage handling, How do you make
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  Speaker 4: sure somebody's suitcase that's headed to Pittsburgh doesn't end up
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  Speaker 4: in Milwaukee? How do you negotiate with pilot unions, with
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  Speaker 4: with flight attendant unions? How do you ensure safety and
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  Speaker 4: all of that. The federal government doesn't know a blooming
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  Speaker 4: thing about it, and it is a really dangerous road. Look,
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  Speaker 4: there are some voices and some voices within the administration
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  Speaker 4: that are pretty excited about the federal government taking ownership
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  Speaker 4: shares in lots and lots of companies. I think that
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  Speaker 4: is a really bad idea. And Ben, I'm going to
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  Speaker 4: harken back to when I was a kid, when I
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  Speaker 4: was in high school, and you may recall I was.
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  Speaker 4: I was part of a group in Houston that was
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  Speaker 4: called the Constitutional Corroborators and it was started by this
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  Speaker 4: nonprofit in Houston called the Free Enterprise Education Center. And
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  Speaker 4: as high school kids, we studied free market economics. We
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  Speaker 4: read Milton Friedman and Hayek and Bostiat and von Meses,
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  Speaker 4: and we studied the Constitution and we ended up touring
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  Speaker 4: around Texas speaking on the Constitution. And it was five
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  Speaker 4: high school students. We would set up easels and say
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  Speaker 4: we'd go to like a Rotary club or a Kawanas
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  Speaker 4: club or Alliance club, and folks would be sitting there
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  Speaker 4: having lunch, and the five high school students would set
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  Speaker 4: up easels and we would write from memory the entire
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  Speaker 4: Constitution in shorten mnemonic form, and we would write a
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  Speaker 4: definition of socialism, which is government ownership or control of
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  Speaker 4: the means of distribution or production. And the reason we
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  Speaker 4: wrote this, and this is what I was doing at
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  Speaker 4: fourteen fifteen years old, is if you don't know what
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  Speaker 4: it is, you can't identify it when you have it. Well,
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  Speaker 4: the folks who are arguing the federal government should own
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  Speaker 4: or control the means of production and distribution and economy
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  Speaker 4: are directly arguing we should adopt socialism for our economy.
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  Speaker 4: That is a really, really bad answer, and I think
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  Speaker 4: a budget airline made it obvious to most observers. Look,
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  Speaker 4: there are limited circumstances, so, for example, in national security
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  Speaker 4: areas where you're dealing with critical minerals and rare earth minerals,
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  Speaker 4: where it makes sense to have some government control because
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  Speaker 4: because you need to be able to ensure that we
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  Speaker 4: can defend our nation from national security threats. But outside
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  Speaker 4: that very limited category, it is a really dangerous slippery
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  Speaker 4: slope to start having the government be a shareholder and
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  Speaker 4: especially be the biggest shareholder in major companies. That's how
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  Speaker 4: you lose the competitiveness. How that's how you lose the
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  Speaker 4: incredible success of the American for enterprise system.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when things like this happen, I always go
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  Speaker 1: back to their real people that are affected by it,
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  Speaker 1: and there's always, you know, people that are out without
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  Speaker 1: a job today. There's also stories that come out of
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  Speaker 1: it that I think are amazing that the New York
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  Speaker 1: Post had this story, and I think it's a great
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  Speaker 1: way to just wrap this up in a human way.
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  Speaker 1: It said Spirit Airlines pilot give an emotional sendoff from
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  Speaker 1: rival airline after his retirement. Flight, which is a huge
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  Speaker 1: deal when you're a pilot was but amid the shutdown,
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  Speaker 1: the Spirit Airline pilot received a hero send off with
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  Speaker 1: the help of another airline. Captain, John Jackson, was scheduled
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  Speaker 1: to fly one last time for Spirit into Baltimore Washington
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  Speaker 1: International on Saturday. When they ceased operations and went out
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  Speaker 1: of business in the dead of the night. Jackson was
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  Speaker 1: left stranded by the permanent shutdown. He hitched a ride
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  Speaker 1: with Southwest Airlines in Fort Lauderdale. He rode alongside his
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  Speaker 1: son who was a first officer. And this was the
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  Speaker 1: coolest part. It went online viral. They basically Southwest gave
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  Speaker 1: him the send off that he deserved. Southwest put it
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  Speaker 1: up on their social media. It went to well over
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  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people that responded to it very quickly.
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  Speaker 1: They showed him in the cockpit with his son. It
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  Speaker 1: was awesome and I just got to say, even when
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  Speaker 1: things like this happen, I do love seeing just the
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  Speaker 1: hearts of Americans and people that do this and gave
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  Speaker 1: him a send off the Southwest Airlines carrying they went
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  Speaker 1: under the Water Canyon salute after arriving at BWI. I
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  Speaker 1: just I tell you it's awesome when you see things
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  Speaker 1: like that happen. So to that retiring pilot he didn
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  Speaker 1: get his final flight job, well done to Southwest and
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  Speaker 1: thanks for making that guy's day special.
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  Speaker 4: Well good for Southwest that that was the right thing
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  Speaker 4: to do. And I'll say Southwest is a great Texas company.
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  Speaker 4: American Airlines was also a great Texas company. You know,
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  Speaker 4: Texas is is really a critical hub for aviation. And
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  Speaker 4: I'll say I fly just about every airline all the time.
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  Speaker 4: I jokingly refer to Southwest as the company plane. Yet
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  Speaker 4: you know, people ask sometimes they assume senators fly private
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  Speaker 4: jets all around, and the vast majority of the time
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  Speaker 4: you fly commercial and you fly coach. And so I
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  Speaker 4: tell people, I say, oh, yeah, I've got a private jet.
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  Speaker 4: It's a seven thirty seven, and it's with one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and thirty five of my closest friends. On Southwest that's
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  Speaker 4: my private jet. But you know, Southwest I think does
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  Speaker 4: a great job. And that was a very class move.
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad they honored the Spirit pilot who was retiring.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry that so many other pilots are now out
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  Speaker 4: of a job. I think many of them will end
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  Speaker 4: up getting hired by other airlines. But it's still an
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  Speaker 4: awful lot of pain and hurt from the disastrous of
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  Speaker 4: Biden economic policies.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
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  Speaker 1: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
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  Speaker 1: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two. Tucker
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  Speaker 1: Carlson did a sit down interview with The New York Times.
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  Speaker 1: It was a disaster, and Tucker Carlson got busted line,
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  Speaker 1: including his accusations that Donald Trump is the anti Christ.
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  Speaker 1: He also attacks Center Ted Cruz countless times in the interview,
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  Speaker 1: completely obsessed with him. Senator Cruse and I break down
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  Speaker 1: this shocking interview and it's everything you need to know.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen, all right, Senator, Let's move to Tuger Carlson.
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  Speaker 1: He did an interview and it couldn't have gotten worse
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  Speaker 1: for him with New York Times. I've said this before.
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  Speaker 1: Some disagree with me. I think the demise of Tucker
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  Speaker 1: Carlson is happening in real time. I think his audience
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  Speaker 1: is disappearing very quickly. I think these types of interviews
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  Speaker 1: do an incredible damage to his integrity as character, and
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  Speaker 1: these interviews just show how unhinged he is, which we've
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  Speaker 1: been talking about for quite some time. He's also still
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  Speaker 1: obsessed with you and had something very interesting to say
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  Speaker 1: about you in this New York Times interview as well.
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  Speaker 5: Who do you think is more morally repulsive Ted Cruz?
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  Speaker 5: Who do you think Ted Cruz? Ted Cruz is a
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  Speaker 5: sitting US Senator who has called for the killing of
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  Speaker 5: people who did nothing wrong, whole populations who advocated for
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  Speaker 5: this war. Nick Fuentes is like a kid. He's like
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  Speaker 5: twenty six or seven. He has no power except his words. Here,
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  Speaker 5: you have a public official who we pay, who has
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  Speaker 5: actual power, who's voting for things, who's making policy decisions,
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  Speaker 5: and those decisions would include in fact, they are focused
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  Speaker 5: on the murder of people who did nothing wrong, and
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  Speaker 5: yet no one thinks.
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  Speaker 6: It's a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's just totally fine.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if there's tape of Nick Flente is saying
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  Speaker 5: we should kill people because we hate their parents, or
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  Speaker 5: it's okay to kill children, I would love to see
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  Speaker 5: the tape because that's disgusting. And that's basically the entire
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  Speaker 5: US Senate does every single day, and no one notices
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  Speaker 5: Nick flent has said something naughty that I disagreed with.
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  Speaker 5: He made fun of things that I don't think I
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  Speaker 5: would never make.
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  Speaker 7: Fuse he's a white nationalist, was denied the Holocaust, and
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  Speaker 7: what I will say than killing kids from my.
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  Speaker 6: Understanding of my own.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I was just in Germany recently, and you know,
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  Speaker 7: it was such a good reminder that the Holocaust didn't
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  Speaker 7: start with the gassing of Jews. It started with the
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  Speaker 7: dehumanization of Jews. It was Lang language that was used.
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  Speaker 7: And again that is what I couldn't create more.
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  Speaker 5: And that's why when you have a US Senator, a
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  Speaker 5: member of Congress, a US ambassador waving away civilian deaths
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  Speaker 5: as if they don't matter. That's the language of genocide
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  Speaker 5: which results. And this is the lesson of the Holocaust
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  Speaker 5: in genocide itself, and it has so the lesson for
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  Speaker 5: me really watching all of this is that this can
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  Speaker 5: happen in civilized countries, in all human beings, there is
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  Speaker 5: the capacity to ignore the evil right in front of you.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm my point is it's happening right now. And
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  Speaker 5: my job, they said I have one, I don't really
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  Speaker 5: have a job, but I just want to remind people
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  Speaker 5: that were all capable of that, including me, and that we're.
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  Speaker 6: Watching it right now.
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  Speaker 5: And if you think that Nick Fuents is a greater
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  Speaker 5: threat to other human beings than Ted Cruz.
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  Speaker 8: I would love to know how I can imagine people
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  Speaker 8: hearing this and thinking you are soft peddling the quintas
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  Speaker 8: you are apologizes.
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  Speaker 5: I'm trying to awaken people to killing of innocence in
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  Speaker 5: our midst which we are not only encouraged to ignore,
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  Speaker 5: but really told to ignore on pain of being denounced.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm just saying no, I'm not doing that.
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  Speaker 3: Senator Nick foyts a holocaust denier.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but that days even touch it. Let's start with
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  Speaker 4: the fact that this loan I think he brought me
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  Speaker 4: up eight or nine times in that interview. Apparently I
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  Speaker 4: am living completely rent free in his brain, and every
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  Speaker 4: word he's saying is a brazen lie. I am fifty
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  Speaker 4: five years old. Never once have I called for the
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  Speaker 4: murder of innocence. Never once have I called for the
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  Speaker 4: murder of children. By the way, he claims that I
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  Speaker 4: do that, He claims that the entire us said it
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  Speaker 4: does that. And it's just it's at a point where
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  Speaker 4: it's a pathological lie. There's no basis in fact, there's
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  Speaker 4: no evidence.
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  Speaker 2: He just says it.
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  Speaker 4: He just asserts it, and he knows he's lying. He
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  Speaker 4: doesn't care he's lying. By the way, his defense of
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  Speaker 4: Nick Quent says, well, nick Quent has said something naughty.
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  Speaker 4: TI naughty. Okay, here's what Nick Quent has said. He
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  Speaker 4: said Hitler was right, Hitler was very very cool. I
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  Speaker 4: agree with Hitler. On Tucker's show, Nickquent has said his
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  Speaker 4: mission in life is to defeat global jewelry. That's not
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  Speaker 4: something naughty. That is a rabid Nazi bigot. He also
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  Speaker 4: said Nickquentes also said that he celebrates Stalin's birthday every year.
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  Speaker 4: Tucker nodded approvingly. And by the way, Tucker, there's a
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  Speaker 4: reason why Tucker is celebrating Nick Fuentes. Tucker has gone
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  Speaker 4: to the point now of embracing Nazis. It's not just
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  Speaker 4: Nick Fuentes who's an open Nazi. Tucker had had one
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  Speaker 4: lunatic professor on a show who said that Winston Churchill
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  Speaker 4: was the villain of World War Two, and another lunatic
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  Speaker 4: professor on a show who said, there's a good argument
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  Speaker 4: the Americans should have supported the Nazis in World War Two.
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  Speaker 2: No, there's not.
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  Speaker 4: But Tucker is on a mission, and I believe at
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  Speaker 4: this point I cannot prove it, but I'm leaf Tucker
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  Speaker 4: is being compensated as being paid by Cutter or other
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  Speaker 4: foreign nations. He is apologizing for Islamists, he is apologizing
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  Speaker 4: for Sharia. He is apologizing for America haters. He is
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  Speaker 4: attacking Trump every day, he is attacking Israel, He's attacking Jews.
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  Speaker 4: He knows he's lying about me. But his mission is
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  Speaker 4: also to normalize Nazis. By the way, one of the
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  Speaker 4: things he said this week is Graham Plattner, the lunatic
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  Speaker 4: Democrat nominee or likely nominee, almost inevitable nominee in Maine
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  Speaker 4: for Senate, who is a self described communist. Graham Platner says,
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  Speaker 4: I'm a communist and who has not just a Nazi
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  Speaker 4: tattoo on his chest, but a toten komf, which is
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  Speaker 4: the tattoo of the SS in the death chambers of
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  Speaker 4: the concentration camps. You know what, Tucker Carlson said, Oh,
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  Speaker 4: I want to interview Graham Plattner. I'm sure they do, baby,
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  Speaker 4: they have matching Nazi tattoos. I don't know what tattoos
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  Speaker 4: Tucker Carlson said, as Tucker would say, I'm just asking questions.
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  Speaker 4: But apparently, if you're a Nazi, if you say sighile,
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  Speaker 4: Tucker wants to elevate you.
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  Speaker 3: And I got to say it and not just elevate,
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  Speaker 3: you normalize, you make.
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  Speaker 4: It go away. And listen, by the way, when you
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  Speaker 4: lie about people, you notice his whole diatribe about me,
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  Speaker 4: he provided no evidence what I just listened about, Tucker.
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  Speaker 4: I can give you the episodes where he said every
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  Speaker 4: one of those things, those are objective facts. But here's
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  Speaker 4: so Tucker is now a professional liar who lives without facts.
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  Speaker 4: And I want you to listen to this exchange. And
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  Speaker 4: if you're watching on YouTube, it's even better if you
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  Speaker 4: watch it, because it's not just me. Tucker has decided
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  Speaker 4: he hates America, he hates Donald Trump, he hates Jews,
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  Speaker 4: he hates capitalism. He had this other lunatic on his
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  Speaker 4: show who said that Jesus hated capitalism and Jesus was
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  Speaker 4: a socialist. He is attacked, he is all right. I
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  Speaker 4: want you to listen to him being confronted over his
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  Speaker 4: argument that Donald Trump is the Antichrist. This is what
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  Speaker 4: Tucker has argued, and when he's confronted with his own words,
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  Speaker 4: he just flat out lies.
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  Speaker 5: Listen what I was saying, which is, you cannot mock
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  Speaker 5: other people's gods and put yourself in their place.
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  Speaker 4: Period.
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  Speaker 5: That is a deal killer for me. That's worse than
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  Speaker 5: the war with Iran in my opinion.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, but I asked, because you know you've been talking
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  Speaker 8: on your.
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  Speaker 6: Show about whether Trump is the Antichrist.
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  Speaker 5: I have not said that on your show.
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  Speaker 7: The day after Easter, you noted he did not put
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  Speaker 7: his hand on the Bible during his swearing ceremony as president.
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  Speaker 7: You said, and I'm quoting, maybe he didn't put his
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  Speaker 7: hand on the Bible because he affirmatively rejects what's inside
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  Speaker 7: that book. And then on a recent show you went further, saying,
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors,
• 18:42
  Speaker 7: mocking the God of gods and exalting himself above them.
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  Speaker 6: Could this be the Antichrist?
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  Speaker 5: I actually did not say, could this be the Antichrist?
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  Speaker 5: Here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors,
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: mocking the God of gods and exalting himself above them.
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  Speaker 5: Can this be the Antichrist? Well, who knows. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know where that comes from, but I know that those
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  Speaker 5: words never left my lips because I'm not sure I
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  Speaker 5: fully understand what the Antichrist is, if there's just one
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  Speaker 5: I actually tried to understand it. I may have said
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  Speaker 5: some are asking that. I'm not weighing on that because
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  Speaker 5: I don't understand it.
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  Speaker 6: Just to be to obviously the center.
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  Speaker 3: He said that like fifteen days ago when the interview
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  Speaker 3: took place.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, he says, I may have said, some
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: are asking he didn't say that. She played what he said.
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  Speaker 4: She played verbatim what he said. He asked, very directly,
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  Speaker 4: is Donald J. Trump the Antichrist? Look, I'm willing to
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: answer that. No, I don't believe President Trump is the Antichrist.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: But but Tucker doesn't live in the world of facts.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: He doesn't live where any words he says matter and
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: the words he's saying. So there's good news and bad news.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: The bad news is the words he's saying are having
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: really serious negative consequences. He is pushing anti Semitism. He's
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: pushing Jew hate every day, like every week his show
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: focuses on how the Jews are responsible for everything wrong
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: in the world. But he's also pushing America hate. He's
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: pushing how America is terrible. He's pushing Trump hate. He
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: has said he regrets supporting Trump. He wished Trump's had
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: lost I mean that's.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, that's his brother.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: It was like this sad moment where they're like, we
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: are we are going to be held accountable for helping
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: this man win the White House like.
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: The So the good news is Tucker is becoming more
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: and more irrelevant each and every day. He's really talented.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: He's a charming, charismatic guy. Even when he's lying to you.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: He's like Obi Wan Kenobi and Star Wars going. These
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: are not the drones you're looking for. He just flat
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: out lies, but he's charming and good at it. But
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: the good news is he is becoming so irrelevant right now.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: And and listen, I hope he has a really nice
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: home and cutter. By the way, you may not know this,
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: but he'd be that he has bought a home and cutter.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: He also has repeatedly praised the Ayatola, the president of Iran.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: He's praised Maduro, He's praised Mandami. Like, if you're a hitler,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: if you're a hitler, if you're a hitler lover, if
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: you're a communist, if you're a leftist, if you are
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: if you're an America hater, if you're an Islamist, if
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: you're an Ayatola, Tucker Carlson loves you. If you're actually
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: an American who believes in free enterprise, who believes in America,
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: who believes in America. First, Tucker hates your guts and
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: his mission is to attack you. And I think that's
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: why more and more people are moving away from At
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: this point, it's so disconnected from reality that it's just
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: kind of sad.
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  Speaker 1: Don't forget Share this podcast wherever you can with your
• 21:46
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• 21:47
  Speaker 2: You back here tomorrow. As before.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: on this topic, you can go back and now the
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I want to get back to the big story, number
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  Speaker 1: three of the week.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: You may have missed.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: All right, Senator, this is a very interesting and just
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: weird story. You have a liberal Democratic Congresswoman Jack Howell
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: who has defies President Trump to literally go work with
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a foreign country, Cuba, to try to get them oil.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure that if I'm looking at this
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the right way, this could be against the law. What
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: she's now trying to do is again advocate for Cuba.
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  Speaker 4: Right now, well, Ben, let me make a statement that
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: I don't want to be true, and I want to
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: make the statement and then we're going to assess the
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: facts to determine if it's true. Here's the statement. Too
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: many elected Democrats in Congress hate America and actively aggressively
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: and enthusiastically support the communist enemies of America. Now as
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: I say that, listen to someone who loves our country.
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I hate those words. I don't want them to be true.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: I want you to listen to the words of Permeila Jayapol,
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  Speaker 4: who is a left wing, progressive communist member of the
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Democrat Party from Washington. Listened to what she had to
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: say about what she's been doing landing.
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  Speaker 9: In the January, Trump issued an executive order threatening tariffs
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: on any country's supply of fuel to Cuba. This was
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: this January, just a few months ago, and oil shipments
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: from Venezuela, that's where Cuba had been getting it's oiled,
• 23:35
  Speaker 9: were halted after the US operations to kidnap Nicholas Baduro.
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: Since January, only one Russian tanker of oil has made
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: it to Cuba. In fact, it landed just a couple
• 23:49
  Speaker 9: of days before I landed. And one tanker has enough
• 23:54
  Speaker 9: oil basically for ten to fourteen days of Cuba's oil needs,
• 23:59
  Speaker 9: so it's a very limited amount of time. Now Russias
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: said they're going to send another tanker. I was in
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: conversations with the ambassadors from Mexico and some other places,
• 24:10
  Speaker 9: and I know other countries in Latin America trying to
• 24:12
  Speaker 9: figure out how to get oiled their body. It is
• 24:16
  Speaker 9: a crisis beyond imagination. Just this past Friday, on me First,
• 24:22
  Speaker 9: Trump signed a broad executive order that widens sanctions and
• 24:26
  Speaker 9: allows for new penalties similar to what we have for
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: Iran and Russia against foreign base and firms that are
• 24:34
  Speaker 9: dealing with Cuba. And it also reinforces the ban on
• 24:38
  Speaker 9: US tourism. I have called these sanctions an economic bombing
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: of the infrastructure of Cuba. It is illegal, it is
• 24:49
  Speaker 9: against the war being. You're talking about this in Iran. Obviously,
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: to bomb the infrastructure of any country that is against
• 24:55
  Speaker 9: international law. This is essentially doing the same thing. It
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: is bombing the infrastructure of Cuba with economic sanctions that
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: essentially ensure that the infrastructure collapses.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: There's something interesting that she said there. She kept saying
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the kidnap Maduro like it was a crime center. I'm like,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: which I mean this? Like whose side is she on?
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Is that on the side of Maduro and.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Cuba?
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Because the way she said it there, she was saying
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: like it was a crime what America was doing.
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: So listen, there used to be a rule that politics
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: ends at our water's edge. I like that rule. I
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: liked a time where we said, gosh, Democrats and Republicans
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: will disagree, will disagree on how high the top marginal
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: tax rate should be, will disagree on some policy questions.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: But when it comes to defending America, when it comes
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: to standing with American servicemen and women, when it comes
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: to standing up against her enemies, we're going to stand united. Sadly,
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: that is not this world Representative Jayapaul, who I've never met.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: She's a very, very left wing. She is part of
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: the squad. She is part of AOC and ilhan Omar
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: and these extremely left wing House members. Look when she
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: says the kidnapping of Nicholas madurea understand, Nicholas Maudua was
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: indicted for being a massive narco trafficker. Our FBI came down,
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: executed a legitimate arrest warrant. The Delta Force accompanied them
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: to carry out that arrest warrant. She describes it as
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: the kidnapping. That is language that is identical to what
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: every enemy of America would say. The last I checked
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: executing a legitimate arrest warrant Nicholas Maduro number one, he's
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: a tyrant who's responsible for massive oppression of his people,
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: for murder, for torture, for he has destroyed Venezuela, just
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: like Hua Chavis has. But you know what, that's not
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: what he was indicted for. That's not what he was
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: arrested for. He is a huge narco trafficker and he
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: has killed thousands of Americans through the drugs he's flooded
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: into this country. And her view is Nicholas Maduro is
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: the victim. It is the evil American government that dared
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: arrest this narco trafficker. So on Cuba, understand she is unambiguous.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: She stands with the Cuban communist government. And I will
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: say this, My family was imprisoned and tortured by Cuban communists.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: I don't take this as cute. I don't take this
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: as fun. I get that she's from Washington State. I
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: guess there are a bunch of leftists who snapped their
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: fingers at yes, yes, yes, Communism is wonderful because they're
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: soft and weak and they hate American But I gotta
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: say the idea that they are actively trying to smuggle
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: fuel into Cuba because their objective is they want the
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: communist regime in Cuba to stay and to exist I
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: find infuriating. Look, Ben, did you ever have a chance
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: to meet my Theo Sonya?
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: I actually did once at an election event.
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: Okay, my Theos Sonia my aunt. She's my father's kid's sister.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: I adored her. She was an amazing, spectacular person. She
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: passed away earlier this year.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: My nickname, what I've called her my whole life, is
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: my Theoloka, which is Spanish for crazy ant. She was
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: a fireball. She died at eighty two. She lived a
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: wonderful life, a life that I celebrate. She was in
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Cuba after the revolution. She fought in the Cuban Revolution.
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: She was tortured in Cuban prisons. When she was dying.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: She lived in Dallas. She was fading away earlier this year,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: and she was on her deathbed. We all knew she
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: was going and I told her. It was right after
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: Baduro had been arrested. And I told her, I said, Diah,
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: we just arrested the Cuba's next Cuba is going to fall.
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: And I got to say, the look of joy in
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: her face. And there are millions of people in America,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: millions of Cubans, Americans, millions of Venezuelan Americans, millions of
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: Chinese Americans and Korean Americans, and everyone who has been
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: a victim of communism who has understood listen, then I
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: believe communism is the most evil ideology that the world
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: has ever produced. There's been no ideology in American history
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: and world history that has resulted in more murder, more torture,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: more slavery, more oppression, more poverty, and more misery than
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: than than China. And to listen to an elected member
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: of Congress, a leader of the Democrat Party saying she
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: desperately wants to smuggle fueled in because her objective is
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: to save the communist government in Cuba, I gotta say
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: it will be an amazing thing. I don't know what's
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: going to happen in Cuba, but we have a greater
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: opportunity right now than at any point in my lifetime
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: to see the communist regime fall. And then here's what
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: I want to see happen. I want to see this
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: communist regime fall. I want to see a new government
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: in Cuba that is democratically elected, that is legitimate. That
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: that is just two things that embraces free markets and
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: that wants to be friends with America. And let me
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: tell you what that will look like if that happens.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Number one, I would love to see Cuba be this oasis,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: a free enterprise, much like a Singapore or a Hong
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Kong before China took it over. I think it could
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: be extraordinary. But number two, Cuba has a massive advantage.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: There are millions of Cuban expats, Cubans who fled Cuba,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: came to America seeking freedom, who if Cuba had a
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: free market government that was friends with America, would eagerly
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: invest in Cuba. There would be billions of dollars, tens
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: of billions of dollars that would be invested in Cuba.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: You would see a mass of capital. Cuba is stuck
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: in the dark ages. It's like going to Cuba and
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: I've never been. I will go to Cuba when we
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: have a free Cuba. I do not wish to go
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: to Cube under communism. But Cuba, the cars they drive,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: do you know the cars they drive are from the
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: nineteen fifties. It's like the movie The Land that Time Forgot.
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: When the revolution happened, the cars stopped. The innovation, stopped
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: the food, stop the misery, stop the poverty, everything frozen time.
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: And I'll tell you Cuba has some of the most
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: beautiful beaches in the face of the planet. If we
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: have a free market government that's friends with America, we
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: will see this tourist oasis, billions of dollars flooding into
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Cuba and it's just ninety miles off the coast of America.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: And what befuddles man. I want to ask you this, Ben,
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: take a minute, get in the mind of a leftist
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: congress Wan Premier j Pal Why would you root for
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: Cuban communists over America.
• 32:18
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