Latest / Cinema Yūgen / Viking Samurai: From Stockbroker to On‑Screen Warrior
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- 0:00G'day. That's right. It's that time again. Time for... CINEMA! YOOGEEEAAAAAAA!
- 1:07Yes, welcome back Eugenites from the ashes of One Life Rose,
- 1:12a legend, David Kerr Zaal.
- 1:14The world calls him Viking Samurai, once a stockbroker, now the standard bearer
- 1:19of discipline, honor, and old school action glory.
- 1:22A fifth Dan Black Belt, lifelong martial artist, forged through years of training and unbreakable will.
- 1:28What began as a love of the golden age of action cinema became a global movement.
- 1:33Hundreds of thousands united under a
- 1:36single creed earn your strength then
- 1:39he stepped forward into the ring into the fire victorious in a debut and unbowed
- 1:45when facing legend sugar shane mosley now he carries the triumph to the screen
- 1:53standing shoulder to shoulder with icons in the last
- 1:57kumate leading the charge in bloodstorm where
- 2:00survival is claimed not given
- 2:03actor writer producer warrior this
- 2:06is not nostalgia this is legacy in motion this is the viking samurai please
- 2:12welcome him to cinema you can david oh thanks so much for having me on here
- 2:17kent it's a real real honor it's a it's a real we have a we have a ton of crossover
- 2:23which you wouldn't believe We've both worked with Rene Perez.
- 2:26We've both done interviews with the likes of Don the Dragon,
- 2:30Wilson, Cynthia Rothrock, Matthias Hughes. The list goes on, man.
- 2:35Yeah, wow, we are connected. I'm surprised we haven't met up until now.
- 2:39Yeah, and we're both friends of David J. Moore. And Don Wilson. Yeah.
- 2:44David J. Moore, yeah, the great David J. Moore. You know what,
- 2:47funny enough, speaking about Don Wilson, I literally had just interviewed him yesterday.
- 2:52Oh, really? Because they are going to be re-releasing a couple of his classic
- 2:55films in Germany in high definition for the first time. Oh, sweet. Blood Fist 2 and 3.
- 3:00Retro Gold Media, or Retro Gold 63, rather, working with Shamrock Media.
- 3:04Are releasing that so i did some interviews for them
- 3:07because i'm good friends with don you know the funny thing is like
- 3:10whenever i'm in california i train with don wilson so me and
- 3:13him actually came really close that is incredible that
- 3:16is you would be shocked how well he still moves at
- 3:19his age like he's 70 years old but you would
- 3:21never know i would never know well i
- 3:24mean there's a reason why he was he was a 11 time world
- 3:27kickboxing champion yeah well i'm
- 3:30in case in point too gino who you just worked with
- 3:33on hard redemption he's he's like
- 3:36lightning and he's what 66 i i
- 3:39don't know how old gino is but you would never know
- 3:42like that guy is such a phenomenal martial artist and
- 3:46you know if if you told me now now
- 3:49obviously you could tell he's not in his 20s just by
- 3:52looking at him but the way he moves you would think he's
- 3:55in his 20s yeah especially when he you know
- 3:58when he uh changes tact like when
- 4:01he goes from close combat to sword form and all that sort
- 4:03of thing it's um and all the yeah the grappling the striking the weapons like
- 4:07the guy's got it all and even our fight scene at the end he was because he's
- 4:11like an expert black belt in jujitsu and everything else whereas my i'm i've
- 4:16done a lot of different martial art styles but i'm primarily a striker and he
- 4:20showed me some really good stuff it made me look good in the.
- 4:25Yeah. And I mean, then there was the, like, I said, you know,
- 4:27I was talking to them about you and I said, Danny, it looks like Nicolas Cage.
- 4:31Especially when you had like the hood on and you're sitting in the back there.
- 4:34And then before you get up and like take your shirt off and you've got a pair
- 4:38of arms, like Roman pillars. And I'm like, whoa.
- 4:42Okay. And then, yeah. Then of course I, I go down the rabbit hole and I watch
- 4:47some of your short videos and dude, some of those flying kicks, you're a bad man.
- 4:53Oh man, I'm still in my physical prime. Yeah, I practice all the time,
- 4:57lift weights six days a week.
- 4:58I just want to write a film that showcases everything you can do,
- 5:02like the flying kicks and all the cool. Oh, I'd love to do it, man.
- 5:06Like, you know, get me while I'm still in my athletic prime.
- 5:09Yeah. Because I mean, you're like a one man, you know, you could be like this
- 5:14one man, you know, the samurai without a gun doesn't need a gun, doesn't need.
- 5:20It's what happens when you grow up watching Rambo movies, watching blood sport,
- 5:23you might've become the one man army yourself, right?
- 5:26Oh, tell me all about it. And, and looking at the shelves behind you.
- 5:29And of course, having watched a lot of your videos.
- 5:32Yeah, man, don't worry. I'm a blood sport kid. I'm a, I'm a double impact was great.
- 5:40I'll never forget when double impact, I went to see double impact at the movie
- 5:43theater and was big into Van Damme at the time.
- 5:47And I was like, awesome. um van damme like playing like
- 5:50two double van damme as the post
- 5:53double van damage yep that's how they sold it in the trailer too and
- 5:56then of course i met sheldon ledich and he told me the course he
- 5:59told you the story about the corsican brothers connection the oh sure yeah yeah
- 6:03and i was like then i which which i i don't know should have been obvious but
- 6:08then after he told me i went away and watched the corsican brothers and i'm
- 6:12like ah i said yeah that's that's nice like i I love the way he like made a,
- 6:16a big time action movie out of that,
- 6:19that story material, you know, which is great.
- 6:22And it's full, like it's, it's, it's cheesy as heck, but it's good cheese,
- 6:27you know, there's all, because it's, it's from that 80s, 90s era.
- 6:30That's why it's good cheese. Greatest cheese ever came from that era. Oh yeah. Yeah, totally.
- 6:34Because the villains are so like, what I, what I miss about villains today is
- 6:39they're not those mustache twisting scenery chewing.
- 6:43You know they look down their nose at like
- 6:46the most horrible thing and that makes them more ruthless somehow
- 6:49like today they're kind of just like snarky and
- 6:53wear fancy suits you know ken
- 6:58outside of the action of martial arts genre you could easily make the argument
- 7:01that the best films of any genre really came out in the 90s like if you some
- 7:07denzel washington some tom cruise matt damon with goodwill hunting drama like
- 7:12the best stuff came out of the 90s.
- 7:15I'm i'm not gonna argue with you there i mean being as
- 7:19as you said in one video because it is the cinema that
- 7:22we grew up with we have this very close
- 7:26bond to it as our parents did with of course the cinema
- 7:29that they grew up with and the next generation will have with the
- 7:32with all the k-pop demon hunters and and
- 7:35manga have that and they're superheroes and sure yeah
- 7:38and and i mean as you say naturally our stuff will
- 7:41diminish and new stuff will come in i mean it's just the
- 7:44cycle of of cinema really i
- 7:47mean we can't i mean we are fortunate in this instance that our childhoods have
- 7:52not gone away i mean there's going to be another masters of the universe movie
- 7:55this year now yeah our childhoods have not gone away but every time somebody
- 8:00from that era passes like Carl Weathers, maybe like a year ago,
- 8:04for example, it's like part of our childhood is like dying.
- 8:07Val Kilmer. Val Kilmer. Yeah. Another, another great with Top Gun.
- 8:11It was great to see him in the newest Top Gun, you know, recently.
- 8:13Yeah, it was, that was great. Wasn't that nostalgia done right?
- 8:17Yeah. Yeah, definitely. That was so nostalgia done right.
- 8:20Like right from the point where he gets on the old bike on the Kawasaki and
- 8:25races the jet as it takes off.
- 8:27It was just, you know yeah that's cinematic beauty man one thing real quick
- 8:32ken because you do make a great argument earlier about yeah you know we're we
- 8:35grew up watching these movies of course we're going to like those our parents
- 8:38you know generation before that this younger one currently what's out one thing i will say though.
- 8:43To fight for the 90s of why despite how
- 8:46old or young somebody is it was that
- 8:49perfect era where you had the special effects just right but
- 8:52you still had all the practical effects you had all the stunt guys doing real
- 8:55stuff because a lot of movies now just look too fake unless
- 8:58it's tom cruise who still does a lot of the practical you know
- 9:01effects with the action and hanging off
- 9:04of airplanes and doing that that's why the mission impossible movies still
- 9:07look so great because you could kind of tell that there's realism
- 9:10there like yeah he's safe but he is really doing that stuff which
- 9:13is what was great with all the jackie chan films too but now
- 9:16like when everything's just computerized and you could just
- 9:19tell there's like a fakeness to it there's an
- 9:21artificial quality that takes you out
- 9:24of it compared to stuff from the 90s yes no no
- 9:27you're completely right and a lot of a lot of film reviewers and
- 9:30critics and analysts alike agree that
- 9:34this is the what what became initially with
- 9:38cgi what became initially and there's a great documentary about
- 9:41this about uh steve williams who was the real genius at
- 9:45ilm who came up with the t-rex and the
- 9:48liquid metal for the terminator he's he that's
- 9:52a whole nother rabbit hole to go down but what they learned the long wrong lessons
- 9:57from cgi cgi really helped enhance the film but because it made so much money
- 10:02a studio's learned the wrong lesson and go well people love cgi that means we
- 10:07need to put more of it in there.
- 10:10And of course that is the absolute wrong lesson because it's not the amount
- 10:13of CGI that's going to make your film better.
- 10:16The story is going to make the film better. The CGI should only have ever been
- 10:20there to do the thing that you absolutely cannot afford or is impossible to physically achieve.
- 10:27If you can physically achieve it, go for it because people don't.
- 10:30People's eyes can tell the difference yeah and
- 10:33the film nerds like us actually appreciate the hell out of it too
- 10:36you know we're looking into like the making of the film and everything else
- 10:39yeah totally i mean it's like that like i really
- 10:42love waterworld a lot of people crap on that movie but you
- 10:45watch waterworld compared to like an avengers movie and
- 10:48realize that everything that's happening in waterworld is there those sets are
- 10:51there the explosions are there that's a
- 10:54it's just like watching fury road it's it's not
- 10:57it's night and day it's it's when it's
- 11:00all there and it's happening on camera you can
- 11:03i swear your eye can tell the difference because because
- 11:06there is a logic and there's a logic and a less fluidity
- 11:10of movement which sometimes it looks like with
- 11:13cgi there's no gravity there's no logic they
- 11:15can twist and move in the they can twist and move in the air for as long as
- 11:19it's needed to reload the gun get the knife whatever and then comfortably land
- 11:24on two feet and continue the battle and that's where it that's where your mind
- 11:28just could have goes it's like just watching a video game at that point exactly
- 11:32and it's like that scene i think it's f9.
- 11:36Where where dom and and and the the chick are in this car and they go across this ravine,
- 11:44via a tow bar tied to the the the
- 11:47front of the car and vin diesel doesn't even
- 11:50flinch blink or break of sweat because he just knows
- 11:53they're going to land perfectly the car's
- 11:57going to be a wreck it's no longer drivable but they're going to land safely
- 12:00and he knows that oh yeah fast and furious became the
- 12:03avengers basically the avengers with cars and they're going to try and make
- 12:07a hot wheels movie too next oh why not it's it's all up for grabs david but
- 12:13listen you've been doing some incredible work and and hard redemption is is
- 12:18is the newest and the tip of the tip of the iceberg, but you got some other cool stuff.
- 12:22I know you probably can't talk about it too much because it's not yet released,
- 12:25but you did like a Steven Seagal movie, man.
- 12:29Oh, that's insane. Shot that in Serbia. Greatest experience ever.
- 12:34You know, the cool thing is because I have gotten, you know,
- 12:37pretty big in on YouTube, at least for this like niche 80s, 90s action audience.
- 12:44It's not the biggest genre on
- 12:46YouTube, but for that niche, the Viking Samurai got kind of big on there.
- 12:50So where I'm going with that is like I've met and know people literally all over the world.
- 12:54So when I was in serbia shooting that there's a guy who was watching my channel
- 12:59for a while and I talked to him On instagram he's like, oh, you're coming to
- 13:02serbia shoot that movie I'd love to give you a tour of downtown belgrade in
- 13:06my hotel actually happened to be down there So I met up with him.
- 13:09He gave me a whole tour great guy, you know, we're like friends Especially because
- 13:13I met him in person now and you know, he bought me a nice lunch But like oh, trust me.
- 13:17This is a restaurant you you want to go to this the best serbian food
- 13:20so because like youtube opens those kind
- 13:23of doors which is crazy because i would never know somebody
- 13:26in serbia otherwise right so that that just added to like the coolness of wow
- 13:31i get to go there to work on a film which is great this is steven seagull movie
- 13:35his comeback because i don't think he's been in a movie for like seven years
- 13:38and so many great martial artists in there this is ron smorenberg's first lead
- 13:43role who was the main villain in that that jackie chan movie,
- 13:46I think it was Who Am I? And my buddy Michael Paré is in it too.
- 13:50Michael Paré, you know, funny story with Michael Paré, I've now done three films
- 13:54with him, but I had never met him in person.
- 13:58I did speak to him on the phone because our mutual friend, Jeff Langton,
- 14:02actually connected us on the phone, but it's just the funny thing about film.
- 14:07You could be in a movie with somebody, or in that case, three movies with Michael
- 14:10Paré and never even meet the guy.
- 14:12Yeah, yeah. I mean, I...
- 14:15I, I did write a couple of films for him before I actually met him.
- 14:19I wrote, um, the vampire and the vigilante, which he's in. Oh yeah.
- 14:23Cause he works with Rene Perez a lot.
- 14:25Yeah. Yeah. And the righteous, righteous blood Weston. Oh, nice.
- 14:29So, yeah. So, but, uh, it was, it was about, oh geez.
- 14:33It was about nearly two years, I think, after I wrote all those films that I
- 14:37did eventually sit down and talk with Michael.
- 14:40How did you even get connected? How do you know Rene Perez?
- 14:44Oh, well, I started the previous incarnation of this, what I do,
- 14:50started on a podcast called Podcasting Them Softly, at which I was part of a
- 14:56much bigger group of contributors.
- 15:00And by luck I met David J. Moore
- 15:03and of course he does PR for a lot of indie
- 15:06movies and I was just doing the regular
- 15:10stuff and he said do you think you would ever want to publicize indie
- 15:15movies and I said well there's no reason why we can't so I
- 15:18just started doing it so you know 10 years into it now yeah so i just i've met
- 15:24a whole lot of people i interviewed renee for i forget which film now it was
- 15:30one of the bronzy movies i think it was cry havoc i'm pretty sure it was cry havoc,
- 15:36okay cry havoc was coming out and i wanted to
- 15:39get in touch with him because i wanted to talk about this whole this bronzy
- 15:42character because i thought this guy is a dead ringer and by that time he'd
- 15:46done death kiss sure and so i was trying to in trying to get a hold of robert
- 15:52bronzy i got a hold of renee perez and so in talking to renee perez he says
- 15:56i'm about to do a horror movie but i haven't written the script yet and i sort
- 16:00of said well i'm a screenwriter how long.
- 16:02Would you give us a shot when do you need the script by like monday and this
- 16:06was friday afternoon he says and his eyes sort of got water he says you can
- 16:10write a script that fast i said mate i want to be hired i'll write it as fast
- 16:15as you like he said if you can do it you got the gig,
- 16:19and and the rest is history so wow yeah so yeah so i've been yeah i've been
- 16:25you know in reference to your question i've been slowly meeting people in the
- 16:31industry by interviews and stuff for the last.
- 16:34Decade or so or writing reviews or newspaper articles and stuff so yeah oh it
- 16:39is an unusual question how did a little grub from the scrub how did crocodile
- 16:43dundee worm his way into hollywood well that's the answer i just you know i'm
- 16:48people who know people who meets people who you know,
- 16:51oh and speaking of which that's kind of how i got
- 16:54i got in hard redemption i got to give a shout out
- 16:57to david jay moore because he had recommended me to gino right
- 17:00and then i was able to audition for you know and christine yeah
- 17:04and then you know did a couple tape readings and read for
- 17:06a couple different characters and then they they liked me for
- 17:10solomon yeah like yeah i like i like how you i
- 17:13like i like how you did that you'd be you'd be really good for that role i was
- 17:16like fantastic you know great and that's and you know and as you know that's
- 17:21kind of how it happens in this business you meet someone who introduces to someone
- 17:25who meets you someone else and yeah yeah and the planets the planets all align.
- 17:31Yeah, everything aligns. You know, the funny thing now with Rene Perez,
- 17:35this, this kind of goes back to YouTube because he was editing one of his films
- 17:39and he happened to be watching one of my YouTube videos and I was talking about.
- 17:45With another guy in serbia funny enough different guy not the one that i met up with
- 17:49but i i had him on we were having a discussion kind
- 17:52of like how me and you are now and we were discussing like
- 17:55how come they don't make action martial art movies like
- 17:58the 80s and 90s anymore and that you know that was
- 18:00kind of a cool topic and renee had that on and the guy from
- 18:03serbia made a comment about me he's like oh you're kind
- 18:06of like those guys because like you're you're the real guy you're in
- 18:09the gym working out all the time you're in great shape you're good martial arts like
- 18:12all this other stuff and you know of course i gotta put a couple clips of me
- 18:16from what i put on instagram you know working on stuff in the video splice it
- 18:19in and that kind of caught renee's attention so he was like he he messaged me
- 18:23on facebook he's like well i i i really think you got something here i think
- 18:27you'd be perfect you know for a couple different films and then,
- 18:30you know long story short it ended up being the uh you know this one right here
- 18:36the the bloodstorm Yeah. Yeah.
- 18:38That I, I played the lead in. Yeah. And.
- 18:41I like the foreign art one where you look like Rambo on it.
- 18:45One of the foreign, one of the foreign, is it a foreign DVD or a foreign poster
- 18:49where it looks like it's painted?
- 18:50Oh yeah. Retro Gold 63 put that out because you're doing a bunch of different
- 18:55media books. They got five different covers.
- 18:57This of course is a U S one right here, which is cool.
- 19:01But yeah, they totally have a Rambo two looking one and the image they used,
- 19:07even though it's, you know, kind of more of an animated look like this, they did. Right.
- 19:13More painting. Of a real, They built it off of a real picture of me holding
- 19:17that real gun because it ties back into what the serving guy said.
- 19:20You're kind of like the real guy. It's like, yeah, kind of. I mean,
- 19:23I'm not in Vietnam firing this thing for real, but I do shoot it legally in
- 19:28the shooting range and I do look like that.
- 19:30Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah, it definitely, it definitely, you know,
- 19:35Photoshop is convenient and everything.
- 19:37But, you know, as you know, from back in those, back in those VHS days,
- 19:42a really, a really good sort of painted cover was, was attracting enough to
- 19:47get you to stop and go, Hey, that's, that's one I could take home.
- 19:50You know, I know you should never judge a book or a movie by its cover or poster,
- 19:55but sometimes they. But people do, man.
- 19:57Sometimes they're just attractive. That's what gets it off the shelf.
- 20:00Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, like, and sometimes they do the art very well.
- 20:04Like i was very surprised like the like the art
- 20:07for the original art for the vampire and the vigilante was kind of just you
- 20:11know straightforward photoshop but the one that they put on the on the and i'll
- 20:16be you probably can't see from the oh yeah that that looks good man with the
- 20:19big very stylish and you've got the red blue light kind of thing oh sure so
- 20:25yeah sometimes they really like.
- 20:27They, they go all out, they go for the fences, you know, it's not just a,
- 20:30a poster full of big heads,
- 20:32which I really can't stand most of, you know, the pyramid of heads,
- 20:36like you go past the cinema today and you know, everyone that's going to be
- 20:40in the film because their faces are all on the, on the poster, you know,
- 20:44sort of gone to the days where you have that sort of either one iconic image
- 20:47or, or, you know, I mean, with like the Bloodsport videos has just got,
- 20:53yeah, the classic one is just Van Damme sort of mid flying kick.
- 20:57And that's kind of all. Oh, I love that one. That's the one I've seen in the video story.
- 21:00Yeah. That was like coolest. You know, yeah.
- 21:03Did you, did you hear about speaking of Van Damme? Did you hear about the Olivia
- 21:07Oliver Harper has done a, a look into no retreat, no surrender.
- 21:13I think it's coming out at the end of the month. He did.
- 21:15Yes. With, uh, yeah. He Strandberg and, and all concerned from seasonal. Yeah.
- 21:23They got all the guys in there, but Van Damme.
- 21:27Oh, okay. So they didn't get him. Oh, okay. I thought that was. As far as I know.
- 21:31Right, right. They got everybody in there, which is weird that,
- 21:36you know, they got Kurt McKinney, everybody.
- 21:38It's weird that they wouldn't have Van Damme though, because obviously of all
- 21:43the people in that movie, and it's a great movie, Van Damme ended up becoming the biggest star.
- 21:46So then, even though he's really only in the beginning and the end of the film,
- 21:49they throw him on the box like he's the main guy, right? because they got to
- 21:53market it like that now that he's this big star.
- 21:56And that's the one...
- 21:58We just don't know that much. I mean, I know a pretty good amount behind the
- 22:03scenes because I talked to his best friend at the time, Mohamed Kesey,
- 22:05who played Tong Pong Kickboxer, came out from Belgium, you know,
- 22:09to America, and they both were trying to pursue the movie thing.
- 22:12And I got so in-depth with Mohamed Kesey on these interviews.
- 22:17He gives so many details.
- 22:19But even he himself, who knows, you know, some good behind-the-scenes stuff,
- 22:23he at that time when Van Damme was shooting that movie went back to Belgium.
- 22:26Him so he wasn't there because he was with van damme the
- 22:29whole time when van damme's doing cyborg black eagle
- 22:32blood sport obviously kickboxer you know because he's playing
- 22:35song po a death warrant all he knows everything
- 22:38but even at that time that was like a little gap in
- 22:42their history and i know van damme
- 22:45didn't make that much money from that movie but from
- 22:48what i heard it did open the door to blood sport because
- 22:51you know guys like sheldon ledich and frank dukes had
- 22:54seen that yeah i think sheldon was the one that told frank
- 22:57hey frank this dude like he could play you in blood sport
- 23:00he's looking he looks pretty good yeah right so anyway
- 23:04it's weird that van damme wouldn't want to talk about that yeah
- 23:08i i must say i i i went down the rabbit hole and listened to all your frank
- 23:13duke stuff because oh frank duke that's because i've because i've only heard
- 23:17i've only heard the story from sheldon ledich's point of view so yeah so it
- 23:22was interesting to hear more or the other side. Yeah. Yeah.
- 23:26Yeah. Cause when I, I've interviewed children a couple of times over the past
- 23:30and, and particularly the last time he went into like a screed and told me like.
- 23:35You know, his, what he really thinks of Frank Duke.
- 23:38And, and so, yeah, it was, it was, it was interesting to, to,
- 23:42to see the whole picture rather than just sort of one person's.
- 23:45Well, the funny thing is the way I got the Frank Dukes interview is because
- 23:49I had interviewed guys like Sheldon and some, some other guys who said not the
- 23:53nicest things about Frank based on their own experience and memory.
- 23:57And Frank had seen those. And I seen Frank on another
- 23:59podcast and he mentioned oh that viking samurai
- 24:02guy is inviting all these people and they're saying all these
- 24:05negative things but he never once invited me and he
- 24:08he lacks ethics or morals or something like
- 24:11that and in my head i'm like wow frank dukes knows who i
- 24:14am that's so awesome and like i know people who know him
- 24:16i reached out i'm like frank i even made a video it's like come on
- 24:19the show anytime man i would love you know i want to be fair i
- 24:22want to get your side and you know it took a while to
- 24:25convince him but but i got him on and i and in
- 24:28my opinion i think i got the best frank dukes interview out there yeah i
- 24:32mean i was surprised like because because normally people
- 24:35are under such high scrutiny even seagal you know
- 24:38for some of the as you're probably aware some
- 24:41of the the store like like there's there's a there's almost a
- 24:44a super cut out there probably on youtube of celebrities with
- 24:47steven seagal horror stories i don't
- 24:50know if you oh yeah man seagal gets john
- 24:53leguanzama is probably one of the more famous ones oh sure
- 24:57yeah i think well yeah that's because supposedly single punched him or something
- 25:01right so he's still you know he doesn't like seagull because of that but i seagull
- 25:07gets more crap than almost anybody on the internet for at least it seems and
- 25:12maybe because i do focus on the 80s 90s action and martial arts genre a lot.
- 25:16But I was on Jason Brandt's show, So Bad It's Good, where they watch bad movies
- 25:20and kind of, you know, make fun of it.
- 25:22It's a very popular show, and he was one of the—I think he was one of the co-producers.
- 25:26I know he had some involvement with The Last Kumite, and that's where I met him in person.
- 25:29But I told him when I was out there, you know, I told him and his wife,
- 25:32I was like, you know, I got the perfect idea.
- 25:35Because people know me—like, the videos I put out about Stephen Scull are actually positive.
- 25:39Like, I talked to his most senior student, who I actually did some training
- 25:42with, Sensei Elliot Freeman. And so I talked to these people who have like real
- 25:46experience with Seagull, you know, and I'm not trying to get the negative stuff
- 25:49out there, even though I know it'd get a lot more views.
- 25:51I want to try to keep the channel more positive.
- 25:54Plus, I, you know, I do respect Seagull. I loved his movies and I've,
- 25:57I've, I've, I've talked to him over the last few years and he's always been
- 26:01respectful and kind and very knowledgeable about the martial arts.
- 26:05So that's, that's, that's gotta be huge. I mean, I know myself.
- 26:10But for, for, for us little kids that watch these guys, how huge is that?
- 26:15Like, do you sit there? I'm talking to Steven Seagal on the phone.
- 26:19I'm talking to Steven Seagal on the phone.
- 26:22It was very surreal because I just remember as a kid, my mom taking me to the
- 26:27shop bet, which are like a little convenience store on army basis.
- 26:32Cause I grew up in army brat and you could rent movies and me and my brother
- 26:36would rent like out for justice movies like that. So for me and my brother,
- 26:39outside of Stallone and Arnold, Stephen Skull and Van Damme were like the coolest guys ever.
- 26:44And, you know, watching all those, even though I'm like 10 watching rated R
- 26:47movies, you know, it's like, man, what a cool guy.
- 26:50So, you know, but then like being able to talk to him on the phone later and
- 26:55even more recently working on a film with him.
- 26:57Yeah. So it was surreal the first time I ever talked to him.
- 27:00But anyway i did
- 27:03i so jason brant is known to really
- 27:07tear into steven seagal like on those straight to video movies and his audience
- 27:12just love steven seagal but i thought it'd be funny you know what like let me
- 27:16go on the show and i'll be pro steven seagal and talk good about him and we'll
- 27:21watch under siege 2 because i do like that movie not as much as obviously but i love under Right.
- 27:26Yeah. So for me, it's very easy. Ryback. Ryback.
- 27:31I'm just being completely honest and authentic when
- 27:34i talk highly about the movie and just my own
- 27:37experience with seagal yeah it got so
- 27:40bad in the comment section where i had people like threatening to
- 27:43to fight me and and saying all this negative stuff
- 27:46you know all these people that say that will never show up in real life by.
- 27:49The way of course but but jason actually had.
- 27:51To kind of like turn the comments off or
- 27:55like remove so it's like okay you know and i knew i was
- 27:58going in the lion's den but look i'm having good fun with it you know these
- 28:01people like get more serious about like it's a political debate you
- 28:04know like you're talking about trump or biden it's like they're that serious where
- 28:07they literally want to kill you over i'm like dude it's it's not
- 28:10that big of a deal under siege two folks under
- 28:13siege two right and
- 28:17look people will hang crap on it but i went to
- 28:19see under siege two in the movie theater i thought
- 28:22that yeah okay it's not under siege
- 28:25but it hits all the good notes you're telling
- 28:29me casey ryback's on this train it's come
- 28:32on it's badass man everett mcgill
- 28:35is the heavy you know what's not to love
- 28:38you know especially where he takes the mace and pepper spray
- 28:41you know awesome it's
- 28:45classic man it's it's under
- 28:48siege on a train it's yeah it's it's look
- 28:52the formula look the formulas might be
- 28:55corny like they say okay let's do under siege on
- 28:57a train let's do instead of snakes on
- 29:00a plane let's do bears on a submarine you know i mean it's monday morning quarterbacking
- 29:05you know it's even hard redemption is under siege in a high school there you
- 29:10go right gino's casey right back he's right yeah but he's casey right back yeah
- 29:15he's a dude with a past and he knows martial arts and yeah.
- 29:19He just prefers to teach instead of, you know, kick ass.
- 29:25Until, until pushed. Yeah.
- 29:30But listen, David, I really don't need to sell you because you're out there
- 29:34all over the world, but, uh, the Samurai Viking tell all of our wonderful listeners
- 29:40where they can check out everything you got coming.
- 29:42Cause you're, you're everywhere right now. You're on the rise.
- 29:45Oh yeah. Of course. The YouTube channel, Viking Samurai, check that out.
- 29:49And then Instagram, somebody had like that name, unfortunately.
- 29:54So on Instagram, I'm RealVikingSamurai. Okay.
- 29:58Yeah. So those are my two biggest social media platforms. You know,
- 30:01I post a lot of my training and I post...
- 30:04Like if you go to my stories, which I post several stories every day that are
- 30:07only up for 24 hours at a time, I just put a lot of positivity out there.
- 30:12You know, like sometimes I'll share my messages, what I'm feeling.
- 30:14I'll put some of my training.
- 30:16I'll put other things that I find inspirational on Instagram and share those
- 30:21because that's just how I am.
- 30:23I'm trying to, you know, just put that out there, that positive energy that
- 30:27like I'm very goal oriented and, you know, I get inspired by things. I'm motivated.
- 30:32I try to share that with other people. yeah that's great
- 30:35that's what the world needs more positive approach because
- 30:38there's a lot of too much negativity really well you
- 30:41know the funny thing is they say uh negative misery loves
- 30:44company which is true but it's it's the
- 30:47same thing like when you see an act of kindness doesn't
- 30:51it make you want to do like you you see somebody doing something nice like
- 30:53man i want to do something nice you know and and like when you're around
- 30:56people i try to surround myself with like people that actually
- 30:59want to do something bigger than when they're where they're
- 31:02currently at you have a lot of people you know
- 31:05will try to talk negative and tear people down to
- 31:08try to bring them down to their level and make themselves feel better but you
- 31:11you got to surround yourself with people who are literally trying to elevate
- 31:15or people who are already at those higher levels surround yourself with them
- 31:18and like i'm telling you they say misery loves company but it's the same thing
- 31:22with positivity and optimism you hang around those people which is why i love to go to church too.
- 31:27It just, man, you know, it, it builds momentum, right? I don't know.
- 31:32It's like that. It's like Morgan Freeman's narration for a million dollar baby.
- 31:36If there's magic in boxing, it's believing in a dream that no one else can see, but you.
- 31:41Yeah, it's just like the Rocky movie, man. But yeah, it's beautiful.
- 31:44And to get there, it's not about how hard you can hit. It's about how hard you
- 31:49can get hit and keep on coming.
- 31:52Oh, I'm going to keep getting hit. Yeah, that's the thing, man.
- 31:55And that's the only thing that will ever separate someone from being successful
- 31:59to somebody not. It's not like they're smarter. It's not like they're more talented.
- 32:03It's not, you know, they know more people. It's literally that guy that will just never quit.
- 32:08He'll keep getting back up and he
- 32:11will figure it out because nobody knows how to
- 32:14get there but they figure it out on the way and then all
- 32:17of a sudden they're there yeah there you go wise words from the samurai viking
- 32:23in an alternate universe he's playing me in a feature film version based on
- 32:28my life david kursall thank you mate for being on cinema yugen oh thanks for
- 32:34having me can't yes There's the Viking Samurai,
- 32:37David Curzal.
- 32:39Get down to the links in the description.
- 32:41Get over to his YouTube channel, Viking Samurai, for all of his goodness,
- 32:45great interviews and content. And look out for all of David's awesomeness on film coming soon.
- 32:53Get into the links in the description.
- 32:56And as always, my little Yugo Nights, thank you for listening to us on Spotify.
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