Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Entrepreneur: Universoul Circus founder Cedric Walker said people told him in 1994 a circus entertaining a Black audience would never work.
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- 0:43Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and
- 0:46Speaker 1: start living your own. My guest is the founder of
- 0:49Speaker 1: the Universe Soul Circus, an African American man who had
- 0:53Speaker 1: a vision of creating a circus with a large percentage
- 0:56Speaker 1: of people of color performing. Is based in Atlanta, Georgia.
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- 1:03Speaker 1: Cedric Walker. How you doing, Cedric? Hey, Sean, I are
- 1:07Speaker 1: you and thank you a lot? This opportunity, you know,
- 1:11Speaker 1: it's great. First of all taking the time to come
- 1:12Speaker 1: to my show. I know you're traveling around the world
- 1:15Speaker 1: and around the country of the United States. What city
- 1:17Speaker 1: are you in right now? That's in New Orleans, Louisiana. Wow,
- 1:23Speaker 1: that's a good Cajun food. Good food down there that
- 1:25Speaker 1: if everybody wants to Now you know you're traveling man,
- 1:30Speaker 1: and I traveled Like when I was ninety four, I
- 1:32Speaker 1: wanted to be a stand up comedian. I want to
- 1:34Speaker 1: a tease said. I thought I was gonna be the
- 1:35Speaker 1: next Richard Pride. I thought I would be next Adye Murphy.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Now in eighteen ninety four, you had an idea about
- 1:45Speaker 1: a circus. How can that happen? Please help explain it
- 1:50Speaker 1: to my audience, because it sounds incredible to me. A
- 1:52Speaker 1: vision will come to you like that. Yes, So we
- 1:55Speaker 1: were doing gospel plays. We actually had a play. I
- 1:59Speaker 1: was working on a play called Wicked Ways and with
- 2:03Speaker 1: Michael Matthews out of Detroit, and Wicked Ways was about
- 2:07Speaker 1: a lot of the challenges that our community faces. It
- 2:11Speaker 1: dealt with It dealt with kids growing up in the
- 2:15Speaker 1: inner city and getting into gangs. It dealt with fathers
- 2:20Speaker 1: raised and step signs as teenagers it dealt with professional
- 2:24Speaker 1: wives and mechanic husbands. It just dealt with a lot
- 2:28Speaker 1: of the challenges that our community faces. And I saw
- 2:34Speaker 1: kids in the theater. I saw whole families, and it
- 2:37Speaker 1: looked like I was in Pittsburgh at the Benadum Theater,
- 2:41Speaker 1: and it looked like I saw a father, mother, granddaughter, grandchild.
- 2:46Speaker 1: And I asked the play right, I said, man, this
- 2:48Speaker 1: is a gospel play. I know it's clean. I asked Mike,
- 2:50Speaker 1: and he said, it's because theater is the oldest form
- 2:56Speaker 1: of entertainment and went all the way back to be
- 3:00Speaker 1: or not to be. You could look on that stage,
- 3:03Speaker 1: on the Shakespearean plays and see yourself, and our community
- 3:08Speaker 1: is getting a chance to look at itself do these plays.
- 3:11Speaker 1: So that triggered the idea to create something that, because
- 3:16Speaker 1: we were very out entertainment was socially. It was comedy,
- 3:20Speaker 1: It was R and B, it was jazz, it was
- 3:24Speaker 1: you know, hip hop, right, it was dance. It was
- 3:29Speaker 1: kind of a mixed bag of everything. And I said,
- 3:32Speaker 1: how do we I got my team and I said,
- 3:35Speaker 1: how do we create something that touches everybody? So I
- 3:39Speaker 1: went to the library and every day eight I worked.
- 3:45Speaker 1: I worked, made part of my job reading about black
- 3:49Speaker 1: entertainment from the turn of the century. And what I
- 3:53Speaker 1: found was we trained animals in the varve billion days
- 3:58Speaker 1: black people trained horses and dogs and and so I
- 4:03Speaker 1: shared that with my team and and the idea was
- 4:07Speaker 1: from that the circus germinade. But it was all having
- 4:12Speaker 1: something for every generation of our family, something where father, mother, daughter,
- 4:18Speaker 1: granddaughter and grandson could all sit on the same beat
- 4:22Speaker 1: bent and enjoy each other, enjoying the shop. So that's
- 4:27Speaker 1: that's what started that, you know, you know when I
- 4:30Speaker 1: went because I know Michael, Michael Matthews is a great
- 4:33Speaker 1: guy and uh my many days of being under Steve
- 4:36Speaker 1: Harror morning. So we promoted a lot of his plays.
- 4:38Speaker 1: We probably bopped here's a couple of times in a
- 4:40Speaker 1: good way. And so when I talk about the circus,
- 4:43Speaker 1: you know, you did all this research, But it was
- 4:46Speaker 1: the naysayers out there, right, c oh man. My investors
- 4:52Speaker 1: all were in promably, both both black and white. I
- 4:56Speaker 1: had fun in Bundy guys, and they all just said me,
- 4:59Speaker 1: you are correct, Let well not go circus. Wow, you
- 5:04Speaker 1: know that was it just nobody believed. So I I,
- 5:09Speaker 1: you know, I did. I felt it. I don't know
- 5:13Speaker 1: where and what, but thede the course. But it was
- 5:18Speaker 1: challenging because we get stereotype, you know, we get stereotype
- 5:22Speaker 1: on technology, we get stereotype on the type of entertainment
- 5:26Speaker 1: of movies that we want to see. And also that
- 5:29Speaker 1: means the world can stereotype of. So I commend you
- 5:32Speaker 1: in pushing back and say, look, I feel that within
- 5:34Speaker 1: my gut and my research, this could work. And then
- 5:37Speaker 1: thirty years later, because you're celebrating your thirtieth year of
- 5:40Speaker 1: Universal Circus Zoul, I don't know if I'm gonna do
- 5:44Speaker 1: dog Conneia's version or we're going with the Rishaw version,
- 5:48Speaker 1: but either way it got a lot of soul than
- 5:50Speaker 1: the brother. And so the name, I'm sure you have
- 5:53Speaker 1: research when you did the name as well, correct Universal. Yeah, yeah,
- 5:57Speaker 1: the original name was Universal. I was back and forth
- 6:01Speaker 1: with my team Universal. I wanted you Soul from the beginning.
- 6:07Speaker 1: So when we got to l A, Universal Studio sent
- 6:11Speaker 1: us a cease and desist on Universal big top circuits.
- 6:15Speaker 1: So we were we asked them back, well, we want
- 6:19Speaker 1: to use Universe Soul, which was my original idea to use,
- 6:26Speaker 1: and they said absolutely, yeah, Well and sad. You look
- 6:32Speaker 1: around at the daff going told you now you gotta
- 6:35Speaker 1: be out here looking bad because you had to follow
- 6:37Speaker 1: my original idea, we wouldn't even be it. Now. This
- 6:41Speaker 1: is the good part of it, you know, because we
- 6:43Speaker 1: jumped a little bit. We had the idea, we got
- 6:46Speaker 1: the name. But you were traveling. How did you you
- 6:49Speaker 1: had the nay sayers about the whole concept centric and
- 6:54Speaker 1: how did you get to acts originally? How did you
- 6:57Speaker 1: start putting the circus together?
- 6:59Speaker 2: Well?
- 6:59Speaker 1: We we you know, when I wanted to do circus,
- 7:03Speaker 1: and part of my research was that's you know, circus
- 7:08Speaker 1: entrepreneurs traveled the world and I couldn't wait to travel
- 7:11Speaker 1: the work it would have. It was going to be
- 7:14Speaker 1: a great experience. But that's what it took to do Circus.
- 7:17Speaker 1: But I do want to say that we started in
- 7:20Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four in Atlanta, and initially it was an
- 7:24Speaker 1: effort to the initial concept and vision for it was
- 7:29Speaker 1: to uplift and celebrate the positive achievements and cultural contributions
- 7:34Speaker 1: of African Americans through a family attraction. And so that
- 7:39Speaker 1: was that was the you know, the impetus for what
- 7:44Speaker 1: people are seeing, and that still remains in the show.
- 7:47Speaker 1: What you saw, it's that feeling that they get once
- 7:51Speaker 1: they come under that big time. It's that soul that
- 7:54Speaker 1: we put in it that that didn'tentiate us. But yeah,
- 7:57Speaker 1: I went around the world, and it was challenging to
- 8:02Speaker 1: look for talent. But I saw it now. I said,
- 8:06Speaker 1: you know our audience, you know, we can't just give
- 8:09Speaker 1: them playing food. Now, gotta have that spice that I
- 8:13Speaker 1: can't I got it pretty real people, you know, black people.
- 8:20Speaker 1: I can't have a clothes line for a haigh wire
- 8:22Speaker 1: or magic you know. So uh So, No, I went
- 8:27Speaker 1: around the world and and just looked for and and
- 8:31Speaker 1: and it was amazing how many black performance circus performers
- 8:36Speaker 1: were doing phenomenal things that were out there. A lot
- 8:41Speaker 1: of manure uh in right here in America. The King
- 8:45Speaker 1: Charles True playing basketball on unicycles, just stuff that came
- 8:50Speaker 1: out of the hood came out and basketball on unicycles
- 8:55Speaker 1: was the only thing. We were the only ones that did.
- 8:58Speaker 1: So you had so many. Originally there was a girl
- 9:01Speaker 1: named Pamela Pamela Hernandez. Pamela was an African American from
- 9:09Speaker 1: la but she was one of the most respected air lists.
- 9:13Speaker 1: She would she was on Ranglin Brothers. But she'd be
- 9:16Speaker 1: in those arenas, but thirty forty feet in the air
- 9:21Speaker 1: doing trick. No, not under her, her and her partner.
- 9:24Speaker 1: And when when when I started listing the name the
- 9:30Speaker 1: acts that I wanted to bring the rest, and they
- 9:33Speaker 1: were black, and the rest of the industry, the whites,
- 9:36Speaker 1: the Europeans, everybody in the industry knew and respected these
- 9:42Speaker 1: black artists to the hides and oh, Pamela's gonna be there.
- 9:46Speaker 1: I'm gonna be there. King Charles is gonna be there.
- 9:48Speaker 1: I'm gonna beat it. Wow. So it was amazing the
- 9:54Speaker 1: quality of black entertainment even back then in circus art.
- 10:00Speaker 1: We know it's really important as we tell this story,
- 10:02Speaker 1: and thank you for allowing me to ask these questions,
- 10:04Speaker 1: because I think the origin story or universe soul is
- 10:07Speaker 1: as important as what's happening now. Because in my life,
- 10:11Speaker 1: I first was introduced to your circus in two thousand
- 10:14Speaker 1: and five. I was managing Steve Harvey and we was
- 10:18Speaker 1: on WBLS in New York City and that circus when
- 10:21Speaker 1: I went into the first time, I didn't know what
- 10:24Speaker 1: to think, you know, I went in there with curiosity,
- 10:28Speaker 1: but I walked away inspired because it was a circus
- 10:32Speaker 1: by us for us, that was the first thing that
- 10:35Speaker 1: really pushed me to positivity. And so I'm sure over
- 10:41Speaker 1: the years they have been different versions of the circus
- 10:45Speaker 1: as you go, because the circus I saw in two
- 10:47Speaker 1: thousand and five had an elephant, and the circus I
- 10:51Speaker 1: saw this past weekid recently didn't have an elephant or
- 10:53Speaker 1: any animals at the time. I think it was a
- 10:56Speaker 1: lion too that I saw at the time of two.
- 10:58Speaker 1: So talk about the trans position and the vision of
- 11:02Speaker 1: the circus over the years. So you know, just like
- 11:05Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's said, you have to keep your eye on
- 11:08Speaker 1: where the ball is going, not where the ball is.
- 11:12Speaker 1: We try to and entertainment is a form, is an
- 11:17Speaker 1: art form that we'll society forward. So we try to
- 11:23Speaker 1: inspire that new direction and wherever it takes us. And
- 11:27Speaker 1: it's kind of more organic. It's just a platform for
- 11:31Speaker 1: young people to express new ideas through their their their artistry.
- 11:37Speaker 1: So I mean, we've kind of it was challenging with
- 11:42Speaker 1: you know, to even think about or they to venture
- 11:45Speaker 1: into the show without the animals, but we realized how
- 11:50Speaker 1: the laws were changing, you know, the people were changing,
- 11:55Speaker 1: and we no longer could carry the animals from state
- 11:59Speaker 1: to state. Some state could, some states wouldn't. But but
- 12:03Speaker 1: but what we what we found out is that our
- 12:08Speaker 1: cultural artistry, our who we are and how much fun
- 12:13Speaker 1: we can have, and that that the family unit where
- 12:18Speaker 1: you're all we're all grandmother again, grandmother, father doing that, son,
- 12:23Speaker 1: all enjoying each other, h enjoying the show. We laid
- 12:27Speaker 1: into that, how do we be authentically us in a
- 12:31Speaker 1: performance that is for everybody at the same time and
- 12:36Speaker 1: and shares our culture. So a lot of the Afro
- 12:40Speaker 1: Beach music, a lot of the music you've heard in
- 12:42Speaker 1: the show is kind of new ending music. A lot
- 12:44Speaker 1: of the new dance styles that American hip hop has
- 12:49Speaker 1: inspired around the world, whether they inspired it in China
- 12:52Speaker 1: or Africa, it came from our streets, came from America,
- 12:57Speaker 1: and it inspired the world. And so we we've incorporated
- 13:01Speaker 1: a lot of that inspiration. But just that NonStop energy
- 13:08Speaker 1: that is germane to our culture and our celebration sort
- 13:13Speaker 1: of like a family reunion under the big time. So
- 13:17Speaker 1: we just linked into our story and we continue to
- 13:20Speaker 1: do that as it involves. Let's speak of Cedric Walker,
- 13:23Speaker 1: the founder of a Universal Circus an inspirational voice in
- 13:28Speaker 1: our community because he had a vision, a vision he
- 13:31Speaker 1: with a lot of other people did deny. He did
- 13:33Speaker 1: his research, he walked past the there and thirty years
- 13:36Speaker 1: later he celebrating the vision that we all can be
- 13:39Speaker 1: entertained by because the audience I saw was very diverse,
- 13:43Speaker 1: and not by accident, because I saw it in the
- 13:46Speaker 1: area of Atlanta, Georgia, which is the Atlanticxation, which is
- 13:51Speaker 1: a mixed race, very upproparately mobile area of Atlanta, Georgia,
- 13:57Speaker 1: and the audience not over that. I knew it was
- 14:00Speaker 1: mixed race because the friends of mine as they went
- 14:01Speaker 1: to the show before me with wow, I didn't expect
- 14:05Speaker 1: it to be that diverse. Is that the goal now
- 14:09Speaker 1: or it just happens?
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- 14:36Speaker 1: Found all is to stay authentically black, period and how
- 14:41Speaker 1: will we do that? That is what transcends culture globally
- 14:47Speaker 1: being able to technically who you are. So you know,
- 14:52Speaker 1: we don't have a direction again except for the origin
- 14:57Speaker 1: of our show to uplift and celebrate the positive achievements
- 15:02Speaker 1: and cultural contributions of African American and student family entertainment.
- 15:08Speaker 1: So out you know, we're not going after any specific
- 15:13Speaker 1: arnory right run after the world. Awesome and thank you
- 15:17Speaker 1: for saying that. Now let's talk about these acts. The
- 15:20Speaker 1: bottom line is the acts. Now, this Chinese trap piece
- 15:25Speaker 1: act that you got the dazz with. My daughter, you know,
- 15:29Speaker 1: she's a I'm gonna be honest with you, she's one
- 15:31Speaker 1: of those people who came in there with doubts Cedric
- 15:34Speaker 1: because she's a Circus are late. You know, she peaks
- 15:36Speaker 1: circuts are late. She said, Dad, are you sure? I said, hey, hey,
- 15:41Speaker 1: these are my people. Now my boy Sedric, they go
- 15:45Speaker 1: take care of it. When she left my brother. She
- 15:47Speaker 1: is a one hundred percent universal fan. Okay, so know that.
- 15:53Speaker 1: But that trapeze act that put on it, she says,
- 15:56Speaker 1: that's better than anything she's ever saw anywhere, and she's
- 15:59Speaker 1: seen by fifteen of those shows. So talk about that
- 16:02Speaker 1: trap that the Chinese trapeze act, right, So we had
- 16:06Speaker 1: the we have to guess the grace and blessings of
- 16:11Speaker 1: driving scouts around the world, young scouts that are always
- 16:16Speaker 1: looking for what's new in different countries. And our scout
- 16:21Speaker 1: found this troop in a in their school, performing and
- 16:28Speaker 1: hadn't been out of the country yet, but had one
- 16:30Speaker 1: gold in every competition in China. And there's no fifteen
- 16:36Speaker 1: sixteen people flying through the air and no trapeze act
- 16:39Speaker 1: in the world. So I said, I have to have
- 16:42Speaker 1: that act. And so when the price tag uh with
- 16:45Speaker 1: the price yeah, the guy said it, we buys that.
- 16:50Speaker 1: He's crazy, and we bought as we wanted because that's
- 16:54Speaker 1: what circus is all about. It's just bringing unbelievable stuff
- 16:58Speaker 1: to the audience. Well, you know, the difference that really
- 17:03Speaker 1: amazed me was a distance between them swinging it. I
- 17:08Speaker 1: was stunned by that distance. I was like, wow, I've
- 17:12Speaker 1: never seen this athleticism area or in leather sism like this.
- 17:17Speaker 1: So so again this is one thing. Another thing that
- 17:21Speaker 1: dazzled me, and a lot of things dazzled me. By
- 17:23Speaker 1: the way, Cedric the the was the I think they
- 17:28Speaker 1: the couple that was on the roller skates. Oh yeah,
- 17:30Speaker 1: from Cuba as the Alcabana Knights roller stating thing Cedria.
- 17:35Speaker 1: That right there, the g fource of them spinning. I
- 17:40Speaker 1: was I was taken aback, I was taking it back there.
- 17:42Speaker 1: What is the training like when you get a couple
- 17:45Speaker 1: like that, because it's danger involved, right, So everything you
- 17:51Speaker 1: see under the big tip, we carriated it. It's it's
- 17:56Speaker 1: been four or five years before it even hits out
- 17:59Speaker 1: stage and it could have been in school, in their schools.
- 18:04Speaker 1: We work with schools all over the world. We work
- 18:07Speaker 1: with schools in Ethiopia and Cuba and South America. We
- 18:11Speaker 1: work with schools in China, and we identify what we
- 18:15Speaker 1: want and depends on what level of of of training
- 18:20Speaker 1: they have achieved and what countries they come from, we
- 18:25Speaker 1: bring we send. We send trainers to Ethiopia, we send
- 18:30Speaker 1: trainers to West Africa, we send trainers UH to South America,
- 18:36Speaker 1: or we bring the performers here, send them to training centers.
- 18:40Speaker 1: Here's sort of UH. They get out of what you
- 18:46Speaker 1: would consider maybe high school or entry level, and then
- 18:50Speaker 1: we take them to that doctorate level in terms of
- 18:53Speaker 1: really putting the icing on the cake in terms of performance,
- 18:59Speaker 1: so that skating act came from two schools. There was
- 19:07Speaker 1: a dance school and Cuba where a sort of young
- 19:12Speaker 1: lady and acrobatic school, and they were combined and they
- 19:17Speaker 1: spent a few years training in Cuba. Then we brought
- 19:20Speaker 1: them here in Sally to Las Vegas to elevate their training.
- 19:25Speaker 1: Then we got them under the Big Top and created
- 19:29Speaker 1: a theme, the whole Cuban theme around them. So whatever
- 19:32Speaker 1: you see, I mean, we spent a good five years
- 19:36Speaker 1: of investment at about forty to fifty grand a year
- 19:43Speaker 1: just training these extents. You see our idea for our
- 19:47Speaker 1: artists work, and some of them we don't have to
- 19:50Speaker 1: train like the Caribbean. Right. The whole culture is you
- 19:54Speaker 1: know all about To me, that's one of the greatest
- 19:58Speaker 1: acts on our show, that their culture is designed to uh.
- 20:04Speaker 1: They you look at their faces in this smiling and
- 20:07Speaker 1: that the happiest they performed, and they're going under fire
- 20:11Speaker 1: four or five rows. And you know, I mean, you know,
- 20:15Speaker 1: the culture in terms of the costuming the characters, Uh,
- 20:20Speaker 1: there's still well, everything means something, nothing is by chance,
- 20:24Speaker 1: nothing is just for flamboyancy on your eyes. It all
- 20:31Speaker 1: traces back to that culture in some meaningful way. So
- 20:36Speaker 1: everything is deep rooted that that you saw, well, you
- 20:40Speaker 1: know the amazing thing. Like I said, I just want
- 20:42Speaker 1: to share everybody my thoughts, my adventure. Go there and
- 20:46Speaker 1: see if the show is over two hours long. It's
- 20:49Speaker 1: not a thirty minute show. An hour show hour that
- 20:52Speaker 1: it starts on time. Let me tell you all this,
- 20:54Speaker 1: universul Circus starts on time. Okay, because of the fact
- 21:00Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't believe that because they
- 21:01Speaker 1: come in late. Okay, its circus is professionally run. Not
- 21:06Speaker 1: saying it wasn't, but people need understand you can miss
- 21:10Speaker 1: out on some great entertainment if you don't arrival time
- 21:13Speaker 1: because Universal Soul Circus starts all time. Now, let's talk
- 21:17Speaker 1: about the acts from Ethiopia, because I noticed, you know,
- 21:20Speaker 1: I'm looking at I'm exam I'm a little producer to
- 21:22Speaker 1: Centric and there was a lot of acts from Ethiopia.
- 21:25Speaker 1: Tell us about that. So etheo Opia is the leading world.
- 21:31Speaker 1: They're leading the world and producing and providing black circus
- 21:36Speaker 1: or swampers. Wow, all over Europe, all over we had
- 21:40Speaker 1: the we have We're very proud that we got into
- 21:45Speaker 1: Ethiopia and the maybe nineties ninety six, ninety seven ninety
- 21:51Speaker 1: eight and started working with those circus schools and we
- 21:55Speaker 1: were the first to bring an Ethiopian act out of
- 21:58Speaker 1: Ethiopia to US circus touring in America. They had I
- 22:03Speaker 1: think that they had schools that were set up in
- 22:06Speaker 1: Ethiopia mainly to train kids. It was a program that
- 22:12Speaker 1: were and developed that was developed by some European circuit
- 22:18Speaker 1: well European circus entrepreneurs, and the idea was to help
- 22:26Speaker 1: the government keep the kids off the street. So they
- 22:29Speaker 1: were training them circus arts and it was cool. It
- 22:32Speaker 1: was a good idea, but the performers showed such great
- 22:38Speaker 1: enthusiasm and capacity until when I went there, I was
- 22:44Speaker 1: totally blown away at the quality of of of some
- 22:47Speaker 1: and the shows were all about messages and they had
- 22:51Speaker 1: full circus shows that were you know, teaching kids about
- 22:55Speaker 1: age or teaching kids about you know, working. They taught
- 23:00Speaker 1: They had a lot of the But we we were
- 23:03Speaker 1: one of one of the first, and we've set invested
- 23:07Speaker 1: a lot of money in training in Ethiopia because the
- 23:13Speaker 1: kids show so much promise. Uh so we're very proud
- 23:18Speaker 1: of the work that they've done. We sponsor a big
- 23:21Speaker 1: festival there or one of the sponsors of the festival
- 23:25Speaker 1: they have, but there's some great We have a duo
- 23:29Speaker 1: aerial act that I've never seen and then thirty years
- 23:34Speaker 1: I've seen just about everything, but that duo, those two
- 23:38Speaker 1: girls up in the air. You saw them, they were
- 23:41Speaker 1: They moved at a speed that no other dual aerial
- 23:45Speaker 1: act will move at. I think even dare to move
- 23:48Speaker 1: that fast, changing all those positions, thirty feet off the
- 23:53Speaker 1: ground with no no net net no, And you know,
- 24:00Speaker 1: I want describe in detail, but please go. What he's
- 24:03Speaker 1: saying is are just selling the significance of what they're
- 24:06Speaker 1: doing because it's impressive. And they were doing some things
- 24:09Speaker 1: our tear you said, I was going, is she about
- 24:12Speaker 1: to do that? Really? Okay? Now these sisters or they
- 24:15Speaker 1: were their twins, No, no, they work together. They come
- 24:18Speaker 1: out of the school. We have in the performance. We
- 24:23Speaker 1: have the hoop diving act, we have the girls in
- 24:25Speaker 1: aerial act, and we have the three acts the Tea
- 24:32Speaker 1: Board and those are the three best strongest schools in Ethiopia.
- 24:38Speaker 1: We have their top acts. So those are the three
- 24:40Speaker 1: of the top acts from the strongest trainers and producers
- 24:44Speaker 1: and Atholpia and we were graced with that and blessed
- 24:48Speaker 1: because we were one of the early pondeers and helping
- 24:53Speaker 1: them with training and programming. Wow, beautiful as we go.
- 24:57Speaker 1: Like I said, it's nineteen eighty four. Ye division, we're
- 25:01Speaker 1: sitting here now thirty years later. What's on the horizon?
- 25:06Speaker 1: I mean, our culture is so rich and it deserves
- 25:10Speaker 1: so much and we've got it. There's a lot we
- 25:14Speaker 1: have to do. I think, you know, family and it
- 25:18Speaker 1: just didn't formally attraction industry. Ice shows that we have
- 25:23Speaker 1: yet to challenge. I mean there's a Bourbon street while
- 25:27Speaker 1: we have the street. I mean, there's just so much
- 25:30Speaker 1: that's that's what. It has to be authentic and it
- 25:34Speaker 1: has to be created authentically. But I have a lot
- 25:38Speaker 1: of ideas. I have ideas that should live way past me,
- 25:44Speaker 1: and I have a lot of challenges. This at the
- 25:46Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg with my friend that the fact
- 25:49Speaker 1: you allowed me to take time and your business schedule
- 25:52Speaker 1: because you run in a circus. Okay, I'm just running
- 25:54Speaker 1: a little small business with animals and chappeeside and all
- 25:57Speaker 1: kinds of human beings run around here trying to understand
- 26:00Speaker 1: what life is. You're the entertaining business. That's where you started.
- 26:04Speaker 1: You had the old run of animals, the whole Big
- 26:07Speaker 1: Top theme. You you did the gospel plays which are
- 26:10Speaker 1: very familiar with. But the bottom line said you just
- 26:13Speaker 1: wanted to do family entertainment. Correct. Yeah, no, I thought
- 26:17Speaker 1: it was the need for it, you know, and I
- 26:20Speaker 1: saw it and we needed this. We need something that
- 26:24Speaker 1: uplifts our families and joins us together. It joins the generations.
- 26:30Speaker 1: It ties the young when of four year oldest watching
- 26:34Speaker 1: their parents sing soul karaoke to al Green and the
- 26:39Speaker 1: grandparents watching and doing the latest stint and the with
- 26:44Speaker 1: the fresh clouds in the ring, it just ties generations
- 26:48Speaker 1: to that. They really did because it was some little girl.
- 26:51Speaker 1: There was a song that they those rappers they started playing.
- 26:54Speaker 1: It was about thirty girl and little girls, and probably
- 26:56Speaker 1: a body in the fifth grade was singing. I went,
- 26:58Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 26:59Speaker 2: What they do it, but boy, it is really in
- 27:02Speaker 2: joyble to watch the connection because they just took off
- 27:06Speaker 2: and did the little dance and hit every word and
- 27:09Speaker 2: it was just fantastic.
- 27:10Speaker 1: But thank you for fighting me down there to see history,
- 27:13Speaker 1: my brother, because you're making history. Man. It was diversity,
- 27:17Speaker 1: the safety, the professionalism, walking in that door man it
- 27:21Speaker 1: was just a clean environment, safe environment. And again, ladies
- 27:26Speaker 1: and gentlemen, universe soul circus starts on time. Remember that.
- 27:31Speaker 1: Don't let nobody push no stereotype. I'm not saying this
- 27:34Speaker 1: out there, but people generally think that when you do
- 27:37Speaker 1: black things, you know cpee time, you know it gonna
- 27:40Speaker 1: start with It's gonna start not their circus, My brother,
- 27:44Speaker 1: thank you for the time, Thank you, thank you so much,
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