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News to Know: Gold is beautiful to wear, but also a great investment to keep. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: to me. Now, let's get this show started. My guess
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Speaker 1: is the co founder or fine jewelry company that she's
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Speaker 1: gonna tell you in a minute, because I don't want
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Speaker 1: to mess up the name. It's an innovative etailer that
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Speaker 1: if you've been reading, if you google it, it's popping
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Speaker 1: up everywhere. They transform the fire jewelry sector with a
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Speaker 1: lifetime buy back promise. Did you hear what I said?
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Speaker 1: A lifetime buy back promise. This allows consumers to sell
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Speaker 1: back their gold jewelry for cash or credit anytime at
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Speaker 1: market value with just one click. Please, she's here to
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Speaker 1: tell us all about it. Please Welcome to the Money
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Speaker 1: Making Conversation and master Class. Nitty sing the How are
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Speaker 1: you doing, Nitty?
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Speaker 2: I'm very good? Thanks for having me first.
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Speaker 1: Of all, where are you calling from.
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Speaker 2: I'm calling from Palo Alta, California.
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Speaker 1: West Coast, West Coast, West coast. Tell me when you
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Speaker 1: say jewelry, you know watches can be jewelry, ear rings, rings, necklaces,
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Speaker 1: jew as a couplelinks you know to be considered jewelry.
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Speaker 1: So when you say jewelry, please help me out with
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Speaker 1: that definition first.
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Speaker 2: So currently, in the narrow definition, jewelry is basically whatever
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Speaker 2: you wear like you know, metal wise, or it could
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Speaker 2: be it could be a fine jewelry, or it could
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Speaker 2: be fashion jewelry, but anything that you were to feel good,
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Speaker 2: look good, and it could be an emotional statement that
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Speaker 2: you're wearing. What Sonore wants to.
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Speaker 1: Do with which is the name of your company?
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Speaker 2: That's the name of a company. Yes, we want to
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Speaker 2: turn this emotional statement into a financial statement as well.
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Speaker 2: You're wearing your wealth when you're wearing jewelry.
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Speaker 1: Wow, I never saw it that way. So if I
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Speaker 1: buy the right coupling, I can wear my wealth as
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Speaker 1: well as wear a jewelry because I never saw I'll
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Speaker 1: be honest with you, I never saw jewelry as an
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Speaker 1: investment in my mind. You know, I think of a
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Speaker 1: home as an investment, maybe a car. I think of
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Speaker 1: stock of course as an investment land, but I never
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Speaker 1: saw jewelry as an investment. I know it is possible.
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Speaker 1: I saw goal as an investment. So what is wrong
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Speaker 1: with my mindset not seeing what you're seeing?
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Speaker 2: You're absolutely right. You know, when we think jewelry, we
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Speaker 2: always think beautiful or emotional, and never investment that can
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Speaker 2: make us money. But at son Lore, what we are
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Speaker 2: doing is we're selling beautiful jewelry that can actually make
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Speaker 2: you money. So gold went up forty last year, and
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Speaker 2: if you were to buy a necklace from son Alor,
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Speaker 2: you could actually sell it back to us and make
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Speaker 2: a profit on it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Now, really help me out there, because you know,
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Speaker 1: you actually sell the jewelry. So, because I'm just trying
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Speaker 1: to get a sense of the brand because I went
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Speaker 1: on the website, I'm looking around and people are hearing
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Speaker 1: this for the first time, and so I don't want
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Speaker 1: to throw any confusion. So walk us through your brand first, Nitdi,
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Speaker 1: and then we'll go into the next step. Because I
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Speaker 1: started with the broad conversation about what is jewelry. Now
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Speaker 1: let's get back to your company and your format and
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Speaker 1: the way people can benefit from how you're presenting it
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Speaker 1: with this like time buy back guarantee.
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Speaker 2: Perfect. So son Alor offers eighteen carried gold jewelry, and
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Speaker 2: this is jewel read that you can wear and enjoy,
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Speaker 2: and then if there is a time when you want
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Speaker 2: to either upgrade or switch it out, you can sell
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Speaker 2: it back to us at market prices of gold. So
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Speaker 2: wear it, enjoy it. Eighteen carded gold, very premium jewelry,
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Speaker 2: and then you can track it and sell it like
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Speaker 2: an investment. So what happened, I'll give you a little
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Speaker 2: bit background. So what happens is when you buy jewelry
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Speaker 2: at any other jeweler, there is about two hundred to
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Speaker 2: five hundred percent markup on the gold value that is
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Speaker 2: in the jewelry. So say you have you buy something
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Speaker 2: for five hundred dollars, you only have about one hundred
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Speaker 2: dollars worth of gold in.
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Speaker 1: It, right, Right, that's why they went from jewelry. Right
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Speaker 1: there is that way, Okay, but.
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Speaker 2: That's not how it's supposed to be. Right, It's supposed
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Speaker 2: to be gold. Then you obviously have some markup for
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Speaker 2: like the artisans actually working on it, and then you
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Speaker 2: sell it and I know I might be describing an
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Speaker 2: alien concept, but this concept actually exists in Asia. This
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Speaker 2: is how jewelry is sold in Asia, with gold at
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Speaker 2: its center and then a premium on top of it.
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Speaker 2: And jewelry is seen as an investment in Asia, and
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Speaker 2: it is seen as part of your work. That is
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Speaker 2: the concept we're trying to bring to the United States.
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Speaker 2: We want to make every woman, for sure and few
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Speaker 2: men an investor in gold through jewelry.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me just talk about my community. You know,
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Speaker 1: I'm African American person of color, and you look at
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Speaker 1: music videos and jewelry has always been seen as to
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Speaker 1: me as bling blain, which means that technically not an investment,
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Speaker 1: just a showpiece show people you have money to show
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Speaker 1: people you got to going on. And I think that's
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Speaker 1: the level of education I've had with jewelry. I never saw,
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Speaker 1: Like I clearly know that I can buy stock in Apple,
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Speaker 1: I can buy stock and IBM or Intel. But because I,
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Speaker 1: throughout my life have been presented with jewelry as an
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Speaker 1: item of decoration in music videos, which dominated a large
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Speaker 1: part of my life, as blame and a show piece
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Speaker 1: that has miscalculated to me in this direction. Is it
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Speaker 1: only in my community. I shouldn't say general just with
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Speaker 1: Sean McDonald's vision. I don't want to make a sweeping
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Speaker 1: generalization for my entire community. But that's the education that
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Speaker 1: you have to break through right now, is letting people
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Speaker 1: know in general my community as well as other communities
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Speaker 1: about the investment opportunities in jewelry. Now it's just something
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Speaker 1: you wear, correct.
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Speaker 2: That's absolutely right and question. I think there are a
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Speaker 2: time where this education might be easy year than other
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Speaker 2: times because gold is at an all time high, and
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Speaker 2: last year we had so many meals items where Costco
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Speaker 2: was selling out of gold bars right right, So people
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Speaker 2: know that gold has value, goal is an investment item,
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Speaker 2: even for like normal people and not just big investors anymore.
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Speaker 2: So what we are saying is gold is gold, right
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Speaker 2: cold is part of your jewelry as well. Let's start
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Speaker 2: seeing it as something that you value. One other thing
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Speaker 2: I wanted to bring up is bond shops, right.
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Speaker 1: I was going to go to pawn shops too. Now,
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Speaker 1: before we go to pawn shop, let me talk about
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Speaker 1: you for a minute. You're young. Okay, there's another stereotype
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out there. I would think that a
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Speaker 1: person who's in the jewelry business who's providing the opportunity
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Speaker 1: to buy jewelry from your company is rich? Or have
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Speaker 1: an investor who has a lot of money. Am I
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Speaker 1: saying the wrong things when I talk to you, nitty?
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Speaker 1: Or how did you establish this company to be in
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Speaker 1: a position to be an etailer for us to come
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Speaker 1: to you by jewelry and attach a life time by
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Speaker 1: back guarantee.
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Speaker 2: So I'll give you my background. I do have a
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Speaker 2: Ivy League education. I have worked in different big and
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Speaker 2: small companies in the past, so I'm bringing definitely a
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Speaker 2: lot of experience to the table. Now money portion. I
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Speaker 2: think I've put in the hard work in my life
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Speaker 2: to buy myself a few years to actually pursue this
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Speaker 2: business opportunity, which I think I'm very passionate about. Again,
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Speaker 2: the mission is to make every woman an investor in gold.
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Speaker 2: So that's how I see it from investment point of view.
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Speaker 2: Not very crazily funded. We're not a Silicon valley, you know, startup.
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Speaker 1: PC's and all that venture capitalists in pushing your brain.
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Speaker 1: I won't see you on short tank. I won't see
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Speaker 1: you on short tank.
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Speaker 2: That'd be great, that'd be good publicity. Yeah, but we
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Speaker 2: right now, we're we have some money, but we are
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Speaker 2: you know, spending every dollar very wisely. The majority of
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Speaker 2: our money is going into the education piece that you
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Speaker 2: mentioned and then just giving customers a very good experience.
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Speaker 1: Right now, let's get back to pawn shops because that
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Speaker 1: was the first thing that came in the mind. When
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Speaker 1: you have jewelry, you think of some value. Let me
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Speaker 1: just tell you I, because we're talking about goal can
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Speaker 1: we talk about diamonds, Can we talk about pearls. We
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Speaker 1: can talk about all levels of jewel but let's talk
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Speaker 1: about pawn shops in general. You know what, I've never
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Speaker 1: seen them give you any value to your property, whether
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Speaker 1: it's a television, a television or or any device that
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Speaker 1: you wanted to come in and try to get some
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Speaker 1: money because you in a state of needing money. How
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Speaker 1: do you differ from a pawnshop when it talks about
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Speaker 1: buy back or buying or returning something.
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Speaker 2: So I want to start at the point where we
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Speaker 2: were talking about jewelry not being seen as an investment. Yes,
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Speaker 2: sown shop. The biggest category at pawn shops is goal
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Speaker 2: related things. So you know, maybe when we're buying jewelry,
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Speaker 2: We're not associating value investment, but if there is a
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Speaker 2: time in our life and we have to sell it,
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Speaker 2: we're definitely associating some value to it. Right. But now
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Speaker 2: what happens that pawn shops is, as you mentioned, the
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Speaker 2: experience is horrible, right, If you really really need to
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Speaker 2: go to a punch shop, that's when you would go
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Speaker 2: to a pawn shop. Otherwise no person would want to
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Speaker 2: go through that experience parking, walking in there, and then
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Speaker 2: you know, having that that entire or do you Pops
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Speaker 2: would give you about I would say thirty to forty
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Speaker 2: percent of the value, whereas at sonalor what we would
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Speaker 2: do is if you buy some jewelry from us and
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Speaker 2: you want to sell it back, we would take fifteen
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Speaker 2: percent as as charges on just you know, processing and
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Speaker 2: melting the metal, but we'll give you most of your
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Speaker 2: value back.
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Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Okay, cool, Please don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 1: Now let's talk about we've been stuck on diamonds. Goal,
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about diamonds. Let's talk about pearls. I'm just
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Speaker 1: trying to expand myself.
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Speaker 3: In this whole.
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Speaker 1: I don't own any diamonds. I've only owned it. I've
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Speaker 1: only right. And so what is the if you were
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Speaker 1: if you were talking about investments. Now that we're talking
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Speaker 1: about idiot investments, I'm a naive person. I'm coming to
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Speaker 1: you for advice. What would you tell me to do?
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Speaker 2: Ah, this is how you get into trouble. Diamonds are
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Speaker 2: not a very good investment.
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Speaker 1: Okay, why I hear diamonds a girl's best friend. That's
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Speaker 1: what the rumor is for sure.
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Speaker 2: But they're not the best investments because you know, like
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Speaker 2: we've all read about it, right, the Beers has the
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Speaker 2: power on pricing diamonds. What happens with diamonds is that
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Speaker 2: they're so marked up that when you actually go to
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Speaker 2: sell it back as a normal person, you get like,
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Speaker 2: I don't know twenty percent of what you paid for.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: So that's why Goal, which is traded internationally, is a
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Speaker 2: way better investment than diamonds, but now we are changing
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Speaker 2: the dynamics and diamonds as well. The new concept of
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Speaker 2: lab diamonds, which is again fraction of the cost of
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Speaker 2: a natural diamond, is getting us back to the point
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Speaker 2: of like jury can be an investment because diamond now
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Speaker 2: will be a fraction of the cost in a necklace,
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Speaker 2: whereas it would be a huge portion of the cost
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Speaker 2: but natural. So lab diamonds are again changing that dynamic
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Speaker 2: and making true read more of an investment.
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Speaker 1: Okay, cool, Now there's some of us some questions. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna ask this question because I didn't know what can
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Speaker 1: you tell us about your exquisite green emerald line, specifically
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Speaker 1: that because I'm trying to find out what to go
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Speaker 1: there and buy, and then I saw the word exquisite
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Speaker 1: Woo emerald green talk to us about that.
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Speaker 2: So again, I think emeralds are rare, emeralds are beautiful,
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Speaker 2: And what we have done is we have created a
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Speaker 2: lot of unique jewelry pieces, both in natural emberals and
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Speaker 2: lap drown emeralds. So these are very high quality Columbian
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Speaker 2: green emeralds that you'll see in our eighteen catc could jewelry.
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Speaker 1: Now we're talking about consumers we're talking about at this
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Speaker 1: point in our life, you know, we're trying to put
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Speaker 1: the money in the right place.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So when I'm looking at gold, I'm looking at that
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Speaker 1: these are the things that I consider jewelry that have value. Pearls, diamonds, gold,
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Speaker 1: Am I missing anything?
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Speaker 2: I think you have rubies and sapphires?
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Speaker 1: But yes, okay, woo, you get deeper with me. That's
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Speaker 1: rubies after pearls and you saying sapphire. So I would
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Speaker 1: never have bought bought a ruby or considered buying a ruby,
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Speaker 1: never bought a sapphire, but I have bought pearls, I
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Speaker 1: have bought diamonds, and I have bought gold. Okay, Now,
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Speaker 1: when you start looking at your company and the model,
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Speaker 1: because you said Rashan, the way to go is gold,
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Speaker 1: is that the direction as a consumer trying to invest,
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Speaker 1: trying to grow their value with their dollar. Is that
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Speaker 1: the direction that you were pushing the go?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think so, and especially like high carded gold, right,
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Speaker 2: because that is more goal than anything else for a consumer. Right.
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Speaker 2: What I would say is if you're trying to buy cheldren, right,
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Speaker 2: just ensure that you're getting good value for your dollar.
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Speaker 2: Just ensure that you understand how much goal is in
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Speaker 2: there and that you're paying as for the amount of
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Speaker 2: wold you get. So that's what I would say, that
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Speaker 2: you know, buying jewelry is actually buying gold that you
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Speaker 2: can wear.
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Speaker 1: Right before I get to my next question about the
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Speaker 1: challenges and pain points consumer's face we're trying to sell
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Speaker 1: their jewelry, explain to us one more time in detail
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Speaker 1: the lifetime buy back guarantee.
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Speaker 2: Sure, so, I think as we mentioned right, like, say
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Speaker 2: you buy a necklace from so and Alrea. It's a
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Speaker 2: beautiful gold necklace. You bought it, you have enjoyed it,
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Speaker 2: you wore it to like parties and everything, and now
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Speaker 2: you want to upgrade it to something else. You want
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Speaker 2: to buy a Goal plus diamond necklace. So what you
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Speaker 2: can do is you go through your Sooner account. You'll
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Speaker 2: see a beautiful graph just like your Robinhood app, where
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Speaker 2: it will show the daily value of your necklace over
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Speaker 2: the past year. Oh wow, Yeah, it will also show
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Speaker 2: you that gold went up forty and you bought the
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Speaker 2: necklace at whatever one thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: It's one thousand dollars and so on your app you'll
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Speaker 1: be able to see the value of your.
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Speaker 2: Necklace exactly every single day because gold moves every single day.
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Speaker 1: Wow, okay, And so that allows you to make a
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Speaker 1: decision if you want to self your investment back to
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Speaker 1: your back to you guys exactly. Okay, Chris there, let's
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Speaker 1: talk about this. Okay. So I've boned in, went to
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Speaker 1: your side, brought me a gold necklace for one thousand dollars.
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Speaker 1: I've been watching it and tracking it hitler bumping the rod,
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Speaker 1: and there's at fifteen hundred dollars. Okay. Now what happens
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Speaker 1: when I want to bring it back to you and
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Speaker 1: I bought it for a thousand? Now how much can
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Speaker 1: I make off that necklace? First of all, I know
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to lose any value, correct, exactly? Okay, cool,
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Speaker 1: talk to me.
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Speaker 2: So now you like, you know, we're saying that the
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Speaker 2: goal went up, right, and now the necklace is say
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Speaker 2: fifteen hundred or twelve hundred whatever, you know, good time.
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Speaker 2: You'll have a button on your account and you can
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Speaker 2: click sell, and then our team sends you an email
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Speaker 2: saying okay, you want to sell, you know, just confirming
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Speaker 2: this is the unit, and we send you a prepaid
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Speaker 2: shipping label. You should bust the necklace. We again see
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Speaker 2: tested that it's the real deal, and then we give
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Speaker 2: you an offer.
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Speaker 1: That they they say, hey, we won't test it. Okay, okay,
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Speaker 1: do cus.
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Speaker 2: And then an offer and that will be fifteen percent
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Speaker 2: lower than the value you see because again there.
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Speaker 1: Is so basically you're saying that that the if it's
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Speaker 1: fifteen hundred dollars, you paying me back to maybe fifteen
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Speaker 1: fifteen percent less than that.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that.
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Speaker 1: I never thought of that. That concept is interesting. I
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Speaker 1: have to say, why haven't we seen that before?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the issue stems from that. The jewelry is so
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Speaker 2: marked up when you buy it. Can I imagine, right,
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Speaker 2: like your jeweler sells you something for a thousand dollars
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Speaker 2: and then they were to show you a graph of
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Speaker 2: your goal. They sold your goal of two hundred dollars
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Speaker 2: to begin with, so you'd just be mad to see that. Okay,
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Speaker 2: my necklace is worth two hundred dollars, right, So they will.
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Speaker 1: Never versus eight dollars price that you paid for.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, so they don't want to get into that. You
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Speaker 2: only realize when you actually go to a pawn shop.
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Speaker 1: Right, show breaks all your dreams down exactly. Okay, And
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Speaker 1: I'm sad if I'm sounding like wow, you know because
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Speaker 1: the journey as we talk, you're educating me. And that
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Speaker 1: was the whole key for me bringing on the show
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Speaker 1: is to understand exactly, but to go to your app
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Speaker 1: or go to your site. You can track the value
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Speaker 1: of your jewelry that you purchased based on how it's
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Speaker 1: buying and selling in this situation goal and I see
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Speaker 1: why you're recommending gold because it's trackable. Every day you
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Speaker 1: can see your value go up and down, and it
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Speaker 1: becomes an investment, an investment that they can bring back
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Speaker 1: to you guys, which means that whatever it is is
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Speaker 1: going to be a fifteen percent charge to buy it
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Speaker 1: back at minimums. Mindus what you what the value is?
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Speaker 2: That's right?
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Speaker 1: Wow?
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Speaker 2: The current value?
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Speaker 1: So again, you think I can work for you? Nay?
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Speaker 1: You think I'm getting the Okay? Cool. Now let's get
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Speaker 1: to the question that I held off of the challenges
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Speaker 1: and pain points consumers face when trying to sell that
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Speaker 1: jewelry not to you guys, yea, the problems that they
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Speaker 1: have where do they go other than a pawnshop.
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Speaker 2: So no jewelry store right now offers your buy back guarantee.
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Speaker 1: Okay, no, no.
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Speaker 2: Other jeweler does that, so let's begin with that. So
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Speaker 2: there is no option for you to just go and
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Speaker 2: return it to the original person that you bought her from.
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Speaker 2: Now the options you have are like eBay, where it
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Speaker 2: can take forever and you really don't know who you're
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Speaker 2: selling to, or.
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Speaker 1: I'm just tell you this. You know, you should always
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Speaker 1: open up with that example about the being able to
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Speaker 1: see your jewelry and being able to watch its value grow,
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Speaker 1: using goal as an example, the light bulb went above
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Speaker 1: my head right there. I understand what you're saying investment,
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Speaker 1: because I've never known jewelry to be treated like that,
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Speaker 1: and I know when I go to a traditional store,
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Speaker 1: I'm probably buying an overpriced item. And I've went in
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Speaker 1: there with people I suppose to had the hookup or
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Speaker 1: knew the man behind the counter, the man, the man
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Speaker 1: hand behind the counter, and I still walked out of
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Speaker 1: there feeling I paid more than I should have paid
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Speaker 1: in this situation. Being a detailer, anybody who brings their products,
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Speaker 1: anybody who comes to you buys the product you said Rashwan.
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Speaker 1: They're not buying an overpriced item. Correct, that's right.
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Speaker 2: They know exactly what they're getting into because we'll give
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Speaker 2: you a breakdown of call. We'll give you the breakdown
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Speaker 2: of the gemstone cost, and we'll give you that this
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Speaker 2: is you know how much it costs us to bring
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Speaker 2: this piece to you because to be honest, like we
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Speaker 2: have costs to right import duties and packaging and all
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Speaker 2: of that. So we break it down very cleanly for
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Speaker 2: you right at the picnic and then every single day,
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Speaker 2: you know how much does it cost?
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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. They're offering a lifetime bypack promise. I
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Speaker 1: say guarantee. They said lifetime buy back promise, and tell
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Speaker 1: them how they can reach out to you. To the
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Speaker 1: detail location of the website right now, nitty.
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Speaker 2: Sure, it's ww dot sona lore dot com so sooner
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Speaker 2: lor s O NA l O R. And we're on Instagram,
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Speaker 2: which is sooner lord dot Jewelry.
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Speaker 1: My friend. Thank you for educating me, and thank you
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Speaker 1: for I'm telling you know. I got a couple of links.
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Speaker 1: I just buy them because they're nice. I buy a
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Speaker 1: watch because I buy it because it's nice. I never
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Speaker 1: look at the idea of treating it as an investment,
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Speaker 1: because I only try to buy the most reasonly priced
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Speaker 1: thing that I see off the shelf. But you're telling me, Rashan,
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Speaker 1: go to your website and there's value there that can
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Speaker 1: be treated as an investment and then yes, it is
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Speaker 1: tied to a lifetime by back promise. Thank you for
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