Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / The Mother of Black Music Month, Dyana Williams, talks about serving on the board of the National Museum of African-American Music
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- 2:13Speaker 1: guest is an industry decision maker. Her name is Diana Williams.
- 2:17Speaker 1: She has an entertainment powerhouse who is a beloved advocate
- 2:20Speaker 1: and authority in black music. The legendary on their personality
- 2:24Speaker 1: is a trailblazer and broadcasting music activism and celebrity media strategy.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Her celebrity clientele includes Grammy Award winners, executives, actors, and athletes.
- 2:33Speaker 1: Some notable names of clients include Rihanna, Charlie Wilson, got
- 2:36Speaker 1: another hit song out now, Janelle Morte, she acts to
- 2:40Speaker 1: now if y'all don't know about her, just to name
- 2:42Speaker 1: a few. She's also serving on the board of the
- 2:44Speaker 1: National Museum of African American Music in Nashville. That is
- 2:48Speaker 1: why she's on the show, among other wonderful things we're
- 2:51Speaker 1: gonna talk about because this is Black Music Mom, where
- 2:54Speaker 1: she chairs the Music Industry Relationship Collective, Please working with
- 2:57Speaker 1: the money making conversations. The mother a Black music Mom,
- 3:01Speaker 1: Deanna Wheels. I saw I thought I sneaked that in
- 3:05Speaker 1: on your girlfriends, biological mother, three children that you you
- 3:12Speaker 1: look here we go old school shoppers attack. Thank you.
- 3:16Speaker 1: I appreciate that because I'm trying to go down there.
- 3:18Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to maintain because my world
- 3:22Speaker 1: is so crazy, it's so busy and pulled in so
- 3:24Speaker 1: many different directions. When this is kind of like calming.
- 3:26Speaker 1: When I do the interviews with people I care about,
- 3:29Speaker 1: people I respect, and giving you a voice in this business.
- 3:32Speaker 1: And sometimes because of the fact that you know whether
- 3:35Speaker 1: you're playing music, we don't know you. And then I
- 3:37Speaker 1: try to pull back that curtain and let let people
- 3:40Speaker 1: understand that the different layers that you have currently and
- 3:44Speaker 1: then some of the things you position us to to
- 3:47Speaker 1: celebrate currently and tod to this week, especially today. In
- 3:52Speaker 1: eighteen seventy nine, forty two years ago, you know, you
- 3:56Speaker 1: went to Jimmy Carter you actually can gamble, and I
- 4:00Speaker 1: were dressing. We were home excited that a dream that
- 4:05Speaker 1: Gamble initiated with the conception of Black Music Month. We
- 4:10Speaker 1: were on our way to the White House to participate
- 4:12Speaker 1: in a picnic on the South lawn of the White
- 4:15Speaker 1: House that President and Russell and Carter hosted for two
- 4:19Speaker 1: hundred members primarily of the Black Music Association, with performances
- 4:24Speaker 1: by Billy Eckstein, Chuck Berry, Andre Crouch, Sarah Jordan Powell,
- 4:30Speaker 1: Evelyn Champagne, Kid MFSB under the direction of Dexter ones
- 4:35Speaker 1: that it was a heavy day. I was a young girl.
- 4:38Speaker 1: I was excited, it was wonderful. So today is the
- 4:42Speaker 1: actual forty second anniversary. As you mentioned, well you know
- 4:45Speaker 1: the points of music. Wow, when I think about music,
- 4:49Speaker 1: and especially in the African American community, you know how
- 4:52Speaker 1: music is such an emotional is used to motivate people,
- 4:56Speaker 1: is used to inspire sports, sports and sporting event as
- 5:01Speaker 1: you used in weddings, is used at funeral, uh, celebrations,
- 5:06Speaker 1: and some of just to just to set the tone
- 5:09Speaker 1: on the elevator. Talk about us by music? Why why
- 5:12Speaker 1: does music resonate so much in a person's life, lifestyle period. Yes, great,
- 5:19Speaker 1: great question. I think all music resonates. But my focus
- 5:22Speaker 1: and concentration is on black music, America's indigenous music art
- 5:28Speaker 1: forms established here in the United States, from the blues
- 5:32Speaker 1: to gospel to American classical which is jazz, R and B,
- 5:38Speaker 1: rock and roll people all created by Rosetta, Thar Chuck,
- 5:44Speaker 1: Barry bo Didley. Don't get it twisted. Elvis was an imitator,
- 5:49Speaker 1: not the originator. And so we have a rich legacy
- 5:53Speaker 1: in America with this majestic various genres. And what's important
- 5:58Speaker 1: to Rashan is that, you know, when you're talking about
- 6:01Speaker 1: money making matters well, Black music generates billions of dollars
- 6:07Speaker 1: annually and right now the number one genre in the
- 6:10Speaker 1: world happens to be hip hop. So music and black
- 6:14Speaker 1: music in particular, it's a universal language that has felt,
- 6:18Speaker 1: if not overstood, by billions on the planet. You know,
- 6:22Speaker 1: when you say hip hop, you know say you know
- 6:24Speaker 1: because I grew up. You know, I grew up to
- 6:26Speaker 1: you know, the forty five single, you know, with the Franklin,
- 6:30Speaker 1: the old J's, and then the Mothership landed. You know,
- 6:35Speaker 1: oh my god, when he landed, he changed the whole music.
- 6:37Speaker 1: You know, that's when bands existed. Now you don't see
- 6:40Speaker 1: bands anymore like you used to talk about that little
- 6:43Speaker 1: transition from because I rememb when I was growing up
- 6:46Speaker 1: in college, you know, it was nothing for me to
- 6:47Speaker 1: see eight to ten guys on stage, even local bands
- 6:51Speaker 1: were like that deep. It was like enjoying that moment.
- 6:54Speaker 1: Then then hip hop came away in the instruments went
- 6:56Speaker 1: away and the DJ replaced them. And now I don't
- 6:58Speaker 1: see that at all and then any musicians. Well, blame
- 7:02Speaker 1: it on technology. With the invention of garage ban and
- 7:07Speaker 1: pro tools, people were able to have a computer a
- 7:11Speaker 1: laptop in their home and be able to access all
- 7:15Speaker 1: the instruments. And also the demise in many school districts
- 7:19Speaker 1: of music. I don't know about you, but I remember
- 7:22Speaker 1: when I was growing up in Manhattan, in Harlem and
- 7:25Speaker 1: Washington Heights, we had to take ban, we had to
- 7:29Speaker 1: have jim these were required subjects. However, now many school
- 7:33Speaker 1: districts because of economics, have cut back music programming. So
- 7:39Speaker 1: I would blame the lack of bands. And mind you,
- 7:41Speaker 1: they are still some bands, but not what century are
- 7:45Speaker 1: we talking about. You and I grew up in the
- 7:47Speaker 1: twentieth century, so our generation we had no choice but
- 7:52Speaker 1: to play instruments and to sing. But now with the technology,
- 7:55Speaker 1: things have changed immensely. And as you mentioned the rise
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- 10:00Speaker 1: and the hype man Gotta Gotta ken include that hype man.
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- 10:10Speaker 1: when we look at music and I look at my
- 10:12Speaker 1: life tied to music, I can tell you it's certain
- 10:15Speaker 1: songs right now. You know because you know music videos
- 10:19Speaker 1: played a major role and our visual part of music.
- 10:23Speaker 1: You know because now I will go to a music video. Uh.
- 10:27Speaker 1: In certain points of my life I go to if
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- 10:52Speaker 1: things are so important. So now we're get into June
- 10:55Speaker 1: being black black music man. And then you guys went
- 10:59Speaker 1: to President Card at the time. What was the inspiration
- 11:03Speaker 1: behind that? Okay, the inspiration was Kenny Gamble, who is
- 11:09Speaker 1: in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with his
- 11:10Speaker 1: partner leon Ah. They are the co architects along with
- 11:14Speaker 1: Tom Bell of T S o P. The Sound of Philadelphia.
- 11:18Speaker 1: Gamble visited Nashville and saw what the Country Music Association
- 11:22Speaker 1: was doing in terms of branding not just a genre
- 11:27Speaker 1: country music, but also a city and thought we need
- 11:32Speaker 1: to do that. So came back and established the Black
- 11:35Speaker 1: Music Association the b m A, and from that he
- 11:39Speaker 1: conceived of a month much like we have February Black
- 11:43Speaker 1: History Month and other months that put a focus on
- 11:45Speaker 1: highlight on different things. Cancer awareness Month, HIV Awareness Month,
- 11:51Speaker 1: Asian Pacific. You know, all those months are an opportunity
- 11:55Speaker 1: to highlight and celebrate the individuals involved in that month.
- 12:01Speaker 1: So Black Music Month, he reached out to Clarence Avant,
- 12:05Speaker 1: who reached out to the White House and President Carter's administration,
- 12:08Speaker 1: and hence the first celebration of Doune Black Music Month
- 12:12Speaker 1: took place June seventh, nineteen seventy nine. And so that
- 12:17Speaker 1: was the origin story of that is what happened. And
- 12:21Speaker 1: Gamble and I were a couple at that time. We
- 12:23Speaker 1: have three beautiful adult children and a very handsome six
- 12:27Speaker 1: and a half year old came over here and broke
- 12:29Speaker 1: some of my art the other day. But that was
- 12:33Speaker 1: the beginning, and he and I were a couple at
- 12:35Speaker 1: the time. So in the Black Music Association, I worked
- 12:38Speaker 1: to get Black Music Month, worked hard to get it recognized,
- 12:43Speaker 1: and it wasn't until two thousand that President Bill Clinton,
- 12:47Speaker 1: after I lobbied Congress for three years, officially recognized it
- 12:52Speaker 1: in the American government and from the perspective of the
- 12:55Speaker 1: White House. So every American president since Bill Clinton has
- 13:00Speaker 1: signed to proclamation. President Biden just released his recently recognizing
- 13:05Speaker 1: jew as Black Music Month. You know, it's really interesting
- 13:09Speaker 1: you say that, because you know, I've been fortunate to
- 13:11Speaker 1: be a part of radio in the early nineties and
- 13:13Speaker 1: Houston Magic one oh two, and I didn't you know,
- 13:16Speaker 1: I know it's seven night and it has been recognized,
- 13:19Speaker 1: but I didn't get a field for it until two
- 13:21Speaker 1: thousand when Steve Harvey now was on radio on two
- 13:24Speaker 1: point three to Beat in l A. And then all
- 13:26Speaker 1: of a sudden it became like, you know, advertisers wanted
- 13:29Speaker 1: to advertised doing black music mark and then you started
- 13:33Speaker 1: having events tied to that in black music Marth and
- 13:36Speaker 1: so when you when you you said something notably that
- 13:38Speaker 1: you know, Gamble he went to Nashville. He saw what
- 13:40Speaker 1: they were doing with country and Western music. Now the
- 13:44Speaker 1: National Museum of African American Music, it's in Nashville. We go.
- 13:53Speaker 1: What I didn't know when I first accepted involvement with
- 13:57Speaker 1: the museum and the acronym is named now, I didn't
- 14:00Speaker 1: realize that Nashville has such a rich legacy in history
- 14:04Speaker 1: as pertained to black music, in gospel music, in R
- 14:08Speaker 1: and B and rock. Jimi Hendricks lived in Nashville for
- 14:10Speaker 1: a period of time. Last check he was a big
- 14:13Speaker 1: time rocker of one of the fathers of rock music.
- 14:17Speaker 1: And so Nashville it just happened to be the city
- 14:20Speaker 1: where the private sector, wealthy individuals, government, the city as
- 14:26Speaker 1: well as the state government came together. And it's a
- 14:30Speaker 1: twenty two year in the making project, which is astonishing.
- 14:34Speaker 1: I've only been involved the last seven years, but you
- 14:37Speaker 1: figured when I first got involved, I was looking at blueprints.
- 14:40Speaker 1: Now as about a month ago, I walked into a fabulous, modern,
- 14:45Speaker 1: very contemporary American history museum that is dealing with our
- 14:51Speaker 1: contributions to all genres starting in sixteen nineteen when enslaved
- 14:57Speaker 1: Africans were kidnapped and brought to the shores of what
- 15:00Speaker 1: is now the United States of America. So, yes, we're
- 15:03Speaker 1: in Nashville in the heart of now and listen, you've
- 15:06Speaker 1: got to come. As my guests. I'm inviting you all
- 15:09Speaker 1: to come because it is amazing. I literally cried the
- 15:14Speaker 1: first five minutes that I was in the lobby of
- 15:17Speaker 1: the museum. It is spectacular. Seven galleries over fifty six
- 15:21Speaker 1: thousand square feet, and galleries filled with artifacts and information
- 15:27Speaker 1: and inspiration about our contribution to global culture. There's a
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- 17:02Speaker 1: you know, I would when you say you've moved to tears,
- 17:04Speaker 1: I would have to believe that's on this statement because
- 17:07Speaker 1: you've been so associated with music, and like I said,
- 17:10Speaker 1: music is tied to memories, and and I know when you,
- 17:14Speaker 1: in your case, you played music some of these artists music.
- 17:18Speaker 1: You've been on stage, You've introduced these artists, You've had lunch, dinner,
- 17:22Speaker 1: shared great you know, celebration stories and sad disappointing stories.
- 17:27Speaker 1: What was the most what was the biggest takeaway when
- 17:29Speaker 1: you walked into the museum which is now based in
- 17:32Speaker 1: Nashville and is open. Uh, you know, the ceremonies gonna
- 17:36Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the ceremonies in a minute and
- 17:37Speaker 1: the notables who are gonna be there, but talk about
- 17:41Speaker 1: that moment really, because I have to believe it was
- 17:45Speaker 1: really breathtaking for you, and also in a level of disbelief, Diana.
- 17:51Speaker 1: The disbelief not so much because we all worked very hard.
- 17:54Speaker 1: I worked. I chaired co chaired Phil Thornton two functions
- 17:58Speaker 1: where we raise money for the museum, but more astonishment
- 18:03Speaker 1: at what we can do when we really apply ourselves,
- 18:06Speaker 1: because again this was an idea at some point and
- 18:10Speaker 1: snow bald. And so what was my big takeaway from
- 18:13Speaker 1: the museum is that we are wealthy black folks. We
- 18:17Speaker 1: are wealthy in creativity and it is obvious and demonstrated
- 18:22Speaker 1: in this museum. And as a woman who is dedicated,
- 18:25Speaker 1: I've dedicated my entire life to the promotion, perpetuation, the
- 18:29Speaker 1: preservation of black music. Uh. We are are slogan now
- 18:34Speaker 1: as black music has a home, and I feel like
- 18:37Speaker 1: my work is in that building. A great deal of
- 18:40Speaker 1: my work is in that building. So I am elated
- 18:45Speaker 1: to be involved, and I'm encouraging everyone to come and
- 18:48Speaker 1: get that emotional feeling. If you look and go to
- 18:51Speaker 1: uh National Museum of African American Music AYMAM dot org,
- 18:56Speaker 1: you'll see videos, You'll see images, and you'll also see
- 18:59Speaker 1: test mornings from families that have visited the museum and
- 19:03Speaker 1: had a very visceral experience, much like I did when
- 19:06Speaker 1: I first game. I know that I talked to Celeldre
- 19:08Speaker 1: as the creator and executive up of Cafe Boca. I
- 19:12Speaker 1: know she told me that Radio UH was hosted by
- 19:15Speaker 1: Lonny Love and u angel Leaque and Yo Yo, they're
- 19:18Speaker 1: gonna be done that broadcasting. And then June seventeenth is
- 19:21Speaker 1: the grand opening. Well, you know you'd be honoring Quincy Jones,
- 19:24Speaker 1: Lionel Richie, Smokey Robinson, Shaka Khan, the Fist, Jubilee Singers,
- 19:28Speaker 1: gospel legends right there. So when you start a grand
- 19:33Speaker 1: opening celebration with Quincy Jones, then you slide over to ease.
- 19:38Speaker 1: That's I said, Zoom Richie, then Smokey Robin, the Cruising
- 19:42Speaker 1: you know, Chaka come on now, you know it's some
- 19:47Speaker 1: history walking out. And that's just some of the names
- 19:50Speaker 1: that are just being mentioned in this press release. But
- 19:53Speaker 1: talk about the grand opening with your June seventeenth. That
- 19:56Speaker 1: whole weekend is like just just each day it has
- 20:00Speaker 1: a forward moving to the next day. Talk about that.
- 20:04Speaker 1: That's the weekend you want me to come down. You
- 20:06Speaker 1: want to come down, and we want you to come.
- 20:08Speaker 1: I'm coming down that weekend. I got both my COVID shots.
- 20:12Speaker 1: I'm still gonna wear my mask, but I got both
- 20:14Speaker 1: my COVID shots. I'm gonna be down there so I
- 20:15Speaker 1: can hook you know, I want you to come. Yes,
- 20:19Speaker 1: you mentioned our esteemed honor reads. These are all people
- 20:22Speaker 1: who have made when we talk about sizeable contributions to
- 20:25Speaker 1: our music and our lives and our memories, all those
- 20:29Speaker 1: individuals that you mentioned. And I think I should also
- 20:32Speaker 1: say that Angela Yee from the Breakfast Club, who is
- 20:35Speaker 1: part of my music industry Relations collective, is going to
- 20:39Speaker 1: be hosting that evening and the Fist two Belie singers
- 20:42Speaker 1: were the first global ambassadors of black music around the world.
- 20:47Speaker 1: They were super popular and you know, well received in Europe.
- 20:52Speaker 1: So we're honoring the legacy of the Fifth to Believe
- 20:55Speaker 1: singers as well. And I want to shout out our
- 20:57Speaker 1: president and CEO, Henry Beach or Hits the Third, who
- 21:01Speaker 1: has done a phenomenal job as a leader moving us
- 21:05Speaker 1: towards this day. We had an actual ribbon cutting back
- 21:08Speaker 1: on m Okay Junior Day, but the official grand opening,
- 21:13Speaker 1: of course restricted opening earlier this year because of COVID
- 21:18Speaker 1: and now that people like you me are getting vaccinated,
- 21:22Speaker 1: we are opening the doors to the museum and our
- 21:26Speaker 1: block party will also be the day of Juneteenth, and
- 21:29Speaker 1: we're celebrating Juneteenth and inviting the community to come in
- 21:33Speaker 1: and see the museum. Now, Jo gotta ask all these
- 21:36Speaker 1: courtions a fear of their donations, you have to give
- 21:39Speaker 1: the into the museum. In general, there are and and
- 21:43Speaker 1: again people can go to Black Music Museum dot com.
- 21:46Speaker 1: It's very reasonable. If you become a member, obviously it changes,
- 21:50Speaker 1: uh the membership. However, during this weekend of the grand opening,
- 21:55Speaker 1: the museum is going to be open on the block
- 21:58Speaker 1: party day when we're celebrating juneteent than open to the
- 22:00Speaker 1: community at large, but there is a fee. And the
- 22:03Speaker 1: day that I was there, my first visit to the
- 22:06Speaker 1: museum after you know, seeing it just dirt and the
- 22:09Speaker 1: construction process. I live in Philly, so I go to
- 22:13Speaker 1: Nashville for our board meetings. Uh, it was quite amazing
- 22:16Speaker 1: to see the construction and the completion of the museum.
- 22:20Speaker 1: But children, school groups were there the day and just
- 22:24Speaker 1: tons of them, and it really warmed my heart because
- 22:28Speaker 1: this museum is for families, it's for everyone. It's not
- 22:32Speaker 1: just for black folks. I want to go on the
- 22:34Speaker 1: record and say, you have a pulse, you have a heartbeat,
- 22:37Speaker 1: this museum is for you, seriously, because the reality is
- 22:41Speaker 1: most of us, all of us, regardless to your musical preference.
- 22:44Speaker 1: As you stated at the outside of our conversation, black
- 22:48Speaker 1: music is an integral part of our experience here on
- 22:51Speaker 1: this planet, not just here in America, but around the world.
- 22:54Speaker 1: So our expectation is that we will be an international
- 22:58Speaker 1: donation of location, expecting people from everywhere to come see
- 23:03Speaker 1: this is this is pretty amazing. When I when I,
- 23:05Speaker 1: when I look at you and I talked, first of all, uh,
- 23:08Speaker 1: it's this board got a lot of the great talkers
- 23:10Speaker 1: like you a great talker. Field Thornton is a great talker.
- 23:13Speaker 1: Do you talk about it? I didn't know. Highest ranking
- 23:17Speaker 1: black man, Oh, my god, ranking black man is joining
- 23:20Speaker 1: our board. Um, Vince Gill Country Artists is joining our board. Fantastic.
- 23:26Speaker 1: Just you know, some pretty dynamic people are have signed up, Monique,
- 23:31Speaker 1: I'd let some great folks. So I'm honored to serve
- 23:33Speaker 1: on this board. I want to I want to piv
- 23:35Speaker 1: it a little bit about you as a strategist, as
- 23:38Speaker 1: a as a media planner, as a person that as
- 23:42Speaker 1: he said, I whisper whisper because thank you for that
- 23:49Speaker 1: New York time. You know the thing about it, when
- 23:51Speaker 1: I because I've been fortunate to manage talent right town
- 23:53Speaker 1: and produce talent. And you know, every talent is different.
- 23:57Speaker 1: And I think when a lot of people make a mistakes,
- 23:59Speaker 1: especially age se they try to sign up a bunch
- 24:01Speaker 1: of people and then they try to treat them all
- 24:03Speaker 1: the same, and you know that's not the case. You
- 24:06Speaker 1: know they'll be successful with anybody. You have to hear
- 24:08Speaker 1: their story here, their paying here, their joy, and then
- 24:11Speaker 1: try to disseminate the right course of action for that person.
- 24:14Speaker 1: So when it comes to that, because as a strategist,
- 24:18Speaker 1: you really managed your too, because I know you and
- 24:20Speaker 1: I need to sit down and talk about some projects
- 24:21Speaker 1: because we have a similar lane that we always cross
- 24:24Speaker 1: when it comes to strategy. And people ask me all
- 24:27Speaker 1: the time how I must how can I generate so
- 24:29Speaker 1: much success for certain people? First of all, I was
- 24:31Speaker 1: telling them they have to be talented one. Secondly, they
- 24:34Speaker 1: have to be willing to work hard, because you like
- 24:37Speaker 1: them myself down that you're hard work. You know, twenty
- 24:40Speaker 1: four hours in a day's twenty four hours a day,
- 24:42Speaker 1: you're gonna use every hour in it. And and the
- 24:44Speaker 1: other person is that I think in my side of it,
- 24:47Speaker 1: they have to be a caring person. They have to
- 24:49Speaker 1: care about something and those three qualities of the type
- 24:53Speaker 1: of qualities where I work hard for because I care
- 24:55Speaker 1: about people, I'm a hard worker. And then I'm also
- 24:58Speaker 1: I have a strong leave at my talent that I
- 25:01Speaker 1: want to share with that person to to to develop
- 25:04Speaker 1: their talent. What are your thoughts when you talk to
- 25:06Speaker 1: when people approach you or you approach them about your
- 25:09Speaker 1: strategy planning. Well, I've had the blessing as you mentioned,
- 25:13Speaker 1: for the last twenty seven years, concurrent to me being
- 25:16Speaker 1: on the radio and television to coach a plethora of
- 25:20Speaker 1: emerging and established talents, not just recording artists you mentioned
- 25:24Speaker 1: Rihanna some of my reporting artists, but I've also worked
- 25:27Speaker 1: with CEO suh managers, actors, directors, all manner of talent.
- 25:33Speaker 1: And the first thing I'm looking for is personality because
- 25:36Speaker 1: that is part of what attracts other human beings. Is
- 25:39Speaker 1: do you have the capacity and the talent UH and
- 25:42Speaker 1: the knowledge, the expertise in your particular area and the
- 25:46Speaker 1: willingness to learn. That is so critical to me and
- 25:50Speaker 1: my process when I'm coaching individuals. So um yeah, twenty
- 25:54Speaker 1: seven years my company, I'm the CEO of Influence Entertainment.
- 25:59Speaker 1: You can go to the website Influence Entertainment dot com
- 26:02Speaker 1: to learn more about us and part of what my
- 26:04Speaker 1: company does. In addition to media coaching and artist development
- 26:09Speaker 1: very much in the tradition of Mrs Maxine Powell, who
- 26:13Speaker 1: was Marry Gordy's artist development and media coach person, UH
- 26:17Speaker 1: is also we produce events. I produced the Marian Anderson
- 26:20Speaker 1: Award in Philadelphia at the Kimmel Sent Up for the
- 26:23Speaker 1: Performing Arts for years. I did it with Pat Moran
- 26:27Speaker 1: and UH last year we honored well not during the pandemic,
- 26:30Speaker 1: teen Cool in the Gang the year before that, Patti
- 26:33Speaker 1: LaBelle Gambled and Huff John bon Jovi, Berry Gordy. So
- 26:37Speaker 1: I'm a creative producer and I love I love conceptualizing
- 26:42Speaker 1: and actualizing. I'm big on that. My parents taught me
- 26:46Speaker 1: anything that your mind can conceive and believe and achieve.
- 26:52Speaker 1: So that's what my company does. That's what I've been doing.
- 26:55Speaker 1: And again, radio has been important, and you know this
- 26:59Speaker 1: from your years in media. Have the platform to be
- 27:03Speaker 1: able to reach hundreds of thousands, millions of individuals with
- 27:08Speaker 1: feel good and information that's of value to their lives.
- 27:13Speaker 1: The following of their lives is what I'm all about. So,
- 27:16Speaker 1: you know, Diana, when I when I listened to you,
- 27:18Speaker 1: and you know, I do bow down to you, you know,
- 27:22Speaker 1: because listen to what she just said. She said athletes,
- 27:26Speaker 1: she said, actors, she said singers, she said executive. Each
- 27:31Speaker 1: one of those lanes is unique. Now, I tell you
- 27:34Speaker 1: I can't mess with music. Okay, it is so complicated,
- 27:39Speaker 1: you know. Uh, you know, comedian, I got you after
- 27:42Speaker 1: I got your athlete, I got your executive music. She
- 27:45Speaker 1: throws that in like it's nothing. So so if you
- 27:48Speaker 1: go to that website, it's a beautiful website. I go
- 27:50Speaker 1: to the website. I've been stealing ideas. Can you make
- 27:52Speaker 1: my website look like her website? Because it's so pretty,
- 27:55Speaker 1: you know, it's so flow, It flows, It looks big,
- 27:58Speaker 1: it looks grand, it looks like you want to know
- 28:00Speaker 1: more about this brand. When you go to her website,
- 28:02Speaker 1: it's amazing. But I just want to slow it down here.
- 28:05Speaker 1: When we start talking about you know, her be on
- 28:07Speaker 1: the board or the Black Music Museum that's that's opening
- 28:11Speaker 1: and the grand openings July June seventeen in Nashville, I
- 28:15Speaker 1: want to talk about the individual, her brand, she says, executive, Like, Okay,
- 28:20Speaker 1: you do executives, you know, I do athletes. I do
- 28:24Speaker 1: actors and actresses, which is both you know what I'm saying,
- 28:26Speaker 1: male and female. Okay, these singers, but then the singers.
- 28:31Speaker 1: Then she throws into the rappers, which is a total
- 28:34Speaker 1: different world than you have the old school. Then you
- 28:38Speaker 1: have the new school, and then Janelle Mona, she kind
- 28:40Speaker 1: of like pop and then she then you have Rihanna,
- 28:43Speaker 1: she kind of like pop black. But what is she?
- 28:46Speaker 1: Come on, girl, you are just something special. Listen, I'm
- 28:51Speaker 1: with you in terms of anything. Like I said that
- 28:54Speaker 1: the mind can conceive and believe, you kind of achieve.
- 28:56Speaker 1: My parents raised me to squeeze this lemon and to
- 29:01Speaker 1: get everything out of the experience of living. I am
- 29:05Speaker 1: living every second in fullness. I am. I love life,
- 29:10Speaker 1: and I love people. I love my fellow human beings.
- 29:12Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm a little annoyed with their behaviors, sometimes downright,
- 29:17Speaker 1: you know, angry with people who are not righteous, kind,
- 29:20Speaker 1: loving and considerate. But for the most part, I am
- 29:24Speaker 1: grateful to be alive. I'm I'm elated to have this
- 29:28Speaker 1: opportunity to speak with you and your audience about my
- 29:31Speaker 1: passions and you know. The other question I get is
- 29:34Speaker 1: how can we celebrate like music, stream the music of
- 29:38Speaker 1: the artists you love, by the music now things are
- 29:41Speaker 1: opening up. Go out here, live music by the merch
- 29:44Speaker 1: of the artists that you love. Sit with young children
- 29:47Speaker 1: and tell them about the artists that you listen to
- 29:50Speaker 1: and loved when you were growing up, and it conversely,
- 29:53Speaker 1: listened to them about who they're listening to. Having intergenerational
- 29:57Speaker 1: moment when you're hearing what they like. You know, it's
- 30:00Speaker 1: not just all about what you like. Be exposed and consider.
- 30:04Speaker 1: So there's so many ways that you can engage. My
- 30:07Speaker 1: grandson was here this past weekend, read books on famous musicians,
- 30:12Speaker 1: teach learns. Celebrate Black Music Month is for all of us.
- 30:16Speaker 1: And it's not to say that we do not celebrate
- 30:18Speaker 1: the music beyond June. It's an everyday celebration. Dune just
- 30:22Speaker 1: happens to be the concentrated moment. Okay, Okay, Diana, I
- 30:26Speaker 1: got that. I'm talking about you. Okay, you just you
- 30:29Speaker 1: just broke off with this a little speech about the museum.
- 30:32Speaker 1: I'm talking about you, girl. You know see, actually we
- 30:36Speaker 1: would say gamble and all that we talk about feel
- 30:39Speaker 1: thor I'm talking about you your talents so unique, identifying
- 30:44Speaker 1: and helping other talented people. That's part of the Jadavi
- 30:47Speaker 1: that I think to be able to prevay that to
- 30:49Speaker 1: other people. As part of my talent. My talent is
- 30:52Speaker 1: being on the radio talking, being on television disseminating information.
- 30:57Speaker 1: My talent is not cooking so well, which is why
- 31:00Speaker 1: my man was like thee. But what what I just
- 31:07Speaker 1: try to say is in my interview with you, and
- 31:09Speaker 1: I've interviewed you before, and I'm always amazed at the
- 31:13Speaker 1: humbleness of of your talents and and and and sometimes
- 31:18Speaker 1: the humbleness is good and bad because sometimes because when
- 31:21Speaker 1: your humble, people don't recognize you for your gifts because
- 31:24Speaker 1: they can they can just assume it's just part of
- 31:26Speaker 1: your your resume. And I just wanted to slow down
- 31:29Speaker 1: and say I brought your own here to talk about
- 31:32Speaker 1: the museum, the grand opening, Black Music mone and June
- 31:35Speaker 1: seventeen is when the three days celebrations gonna start your
- 31:38Speaker 1: work as a board member and all those great things,
- 31:40Speaker 1: but also to acknowledge your brilliance, and that the brilliance
- 31:44Speaker 1: is being able to go in the room and being
- 31:47Speaker 1: able to not be intimidated about communicating, and that's what
- 31:51Speaker 1: you just said. It's about communicating. It's about your parents
- 31:54Speaker 1: giving you the will to be great. And that's what
- 31:57Speaker 1: this That's why I will tell people, you know, when
- 31:59Speaker 1: you be the kid you can you can change their
- 32:02Speaker 1: lifestyle by either supporting them or telling them what they
- 32:05Speaker 1: can do. And that's who I see you. You are
- 32:08Speaker 1: a person who ne's never heard that word, and you
- 32:10Speaker 1: promote that and that's why you immediately defer to Rushan.
- 32:14Speaker 1: I hear you, but let's support black music, let's black merchandise,
- 32:19Speaker 1: let's let's buy the music. But you are, you are
- 32:22Speaker 1: a renaissance woman, and I wanted to just say thank
- 32:25Speaker 1: you and take these few minutes because you know you're
- 32:29Speaker 1: special and and this platform allows me to say that
- 32:32Speaker 1: publicly to you. And I said it with a lot
- 32:34Speaker 1: of honesty because you know you you you're You're the
- 32:37Speaker 1: reason this museum is here. It started four to two
- 32:40Speaker 1: years ago, Okay, it did start fifteen or twenty. It
- 32:43Speaker 1: started forty two years ago, and you were part of that.
- 32:46Speaker 1: That's why it exists today at Nashville. Thank you, Dana Williams. Okay, cool,
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