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Breaking the Cycle: How to Reconnect with Your True Self · The Living Conversation

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  I'm
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  Anthony
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  Wright,
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  and
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  I
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  am
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  your
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  co
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  host
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  today
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  on
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  the
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  Living
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  Conversation
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  with
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  Adam
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  Deets.
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  Welcome.
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  And
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  we're.
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  And
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  we're
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  here
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  with
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  our
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  guest,
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  Kristen
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  Crabtree.
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  Crabtree.
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  And
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  welcome,
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  Kristen.
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  Thank
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  you.
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  Thank
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  you,
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  Anthony.
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  And.
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  And
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  you
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  are.
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  You
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  are
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  a
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  divorce
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  coach
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  and
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  a
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  former
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  hypnotherapist,
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  and
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  you
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  are
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  a
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  counselor
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  teaching
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  people
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  how
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  to
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  get
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  back
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  to
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  who
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  they
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  really
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  are.
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  And
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  how.
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  Where
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  did
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  you
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  get
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  your
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  hypnotherapy
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  training?
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  I'm
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  just
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  curious.
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  So,
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  first
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  of
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  all,
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  I'm
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  not
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  a
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  counselor,
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  but
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  we
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  can.
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  We
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  can
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  talk
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  about
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  that
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  in
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  a
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  second.
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  So
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  my
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  hypnotherapy
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  training
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  was
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  actually
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  back
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  in
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  1990,
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  and
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  it
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  was
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  with
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  the
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  hypnosis
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  training,
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  Hypnotherapy
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  Training
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  Institute.
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  So
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  it's
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  not
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  a
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  current
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  certification
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  and
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  they
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  probably
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  have,
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  you
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  know,
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  changed,
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  you
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  know,
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  how
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  they
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  teach
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  by
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  now.
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  But
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  shockingly,
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  it
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  has
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  been
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  probably
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  most
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  valuable
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  pieces
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  of
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  education
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  I've
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  ever
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  had.
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  I
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  have
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  a
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  master's
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  in
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  international
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  business
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  and
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  undergraduate
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  degree
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  and
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  anthropology
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  and
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  Poli
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  Sci.
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  But
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  really,
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  the
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  hypnotherapy
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  is
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  what
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  has
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  helped
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  me
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  the
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  most
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  of
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  my
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  life.
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  So
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  I
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  started
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  studying
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  hypnotherapy
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  when
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  I
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  was
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  about
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  15
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  and
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  literally
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  got,
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  you
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  know,
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  got
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  a
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  little
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  pamphlet
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  off
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  the
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  back
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  of
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  a
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  comic
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  book,
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  hypnotize
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  your
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  friends.
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  And
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  so
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  I
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  did,
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  and
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  I
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  did
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  and
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  was
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  able
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  to
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  get
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  all
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  the
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  classic
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  symptoms
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  or
• 1:38
  hypnotherap,
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  hypnotic
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  displays
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  of
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  catalepsy
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  and
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  positive
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  and
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  negative
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  hallucination.
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  And
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  I
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  just
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  was
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  really
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  struck
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  by
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  how
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  powerful
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  languages.
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  Yep.
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  So.
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  And
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  being
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  a
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  divorce
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  coach,
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  you.
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  You
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  would
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  have
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  to
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  know
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  how
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  to
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  listen.
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  I've
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  taken
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  divorce
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  mediation
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  training
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  myself,
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  so
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  I.
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  I
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  very
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  much
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  appreciate
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  that.
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  So
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  you've
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  got
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  a
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  website
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  or
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  first
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  of
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  all,
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  called
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  a
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  Paramore
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  Paradox,
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  but
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  also
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  something
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  you
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  call
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  true
• 2:16
  you
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  2.0.
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  What's
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  that?
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  So.
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  Excuse
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  me.
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  So
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  Paramore
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  Paradox
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  is
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  really
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  my
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  mission
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  project,
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  and
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  it
• 2:26
  came
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  out
• 2:27
  of
• 2:27
  me
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  doing
• 2:28
  the
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  work
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  that's
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  in
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  the
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  book
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  and
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  that
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  Paramore
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  Paradox
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  is
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  based
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  on.
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  So
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  my
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  true
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  self
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  wants
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  me
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  to
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  do
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  that
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  for
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  the
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  world.
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  And
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  it's
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  not
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  the
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  place
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  that
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  I
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  use
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  to
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  make
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  my
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  income.
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  That
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  is
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  the
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  Divorce
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  Coaching.
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  Um,
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  but
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  it
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  is
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  like,
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  to
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  me,
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  the
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  most
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  meaningful
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  work
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  I
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  could
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  possibly
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  provide
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  on
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  this
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  planet.
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  The
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  divorce
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  coaching
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  is
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  the
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  website
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  for
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  that
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  is
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  Destination
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  True
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  youe
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  2.0.
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  And
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  it
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  actually
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  ties
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  in
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  with
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  the
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  Paramore
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  Paradox
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  work
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  because
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  my
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  objective
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  is
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  to
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  get
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  people
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  past
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  the
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  trauma
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  of
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  the
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  divorce
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  using
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  practical
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  steps
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  and
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  into
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  a
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  place
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  where
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  they
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  can
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  actually
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  then
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  Answer
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  the
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  question,
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  who
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  am
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  I?
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  Which
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  is
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  what
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  you
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  start
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  asking,
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  you
• 3:20
  know,
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  after
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  a
• 3:20
  divorce.
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  So
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  Paramore
• 3:23
  Paradox.
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  The
• 3:25
  mission
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  of
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  Paramore
• 3:26
  Paradox
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  is
• 3:27
  to
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  help
• 3:28
  people
• 3:28
  answer,
• 3:29
  who
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  am
• 3:29
  I
• 3:30
  outside
• 3:30
  of
• 3:31
  divorce?
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  It
• 3:31
  has
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  nothing
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  to
• 3:32
  do
• 3:32
  with
• 3:32
  divorce.
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  It
• 3:34
  has
• 3:34
  to
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  do
• 3:35
  with
• 3:35
  people
• 3:35
  going
• 3:36
  through
• 3:36
  transition
• 3:37
  or
• 3:37
  existential
• 3:38
  crisis.
• 3:39
  You
• 3:39
  know,
• 3:39
  changing
• 3:40
  jobs,
• 3:41
  losing
• 3:41
  a
• 3:41
  spouse,
• 3:43
  losing
• 3:43
  a
• 3:43
  child,
• 3:44
  empty
• 3:45
  nest
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  and
• 3:46
  divorce.
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  And
• 3:48
  it
• 3:48
  can
• 3:48
  even
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  be
• 3:49
  people
• 3:49
  in
• 3:50
  their
• 3:50
  30s
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  I've
• 3:51
  had
• 3:52
  having
• 3:53
  that
• 3:53
  question
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  because
• 3:54
  they've
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  spent
• 3:57
  all
• 3:58
  this
• 3:58
  money
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  and
• 3:58
  time
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  getting
• 3:59
  an
• 3:59
  education.
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  Like
• 4:01
  I
• 4:01
  just
• 4:01
  said,
• 4:01
  I
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  have
• 4:02
  a
• 4:02
  master's
• 4:02
  in
• 4:03
  international
• 4:03
  business
• 4:04
  that
• 4:04
  I've
• 4:04
  never
• 4:04
  used.
• 4:05
  So.
• 4:06
  So,
• 4:06
  you
• 4:06
  know,
• 4:06
  these
• 4:06
  30
• 4:07
  year
• 4:07
  olds
• 4:07
  come
• 4:07
  or
• 4:08
  20
• 4:08
  something
• 4:08
  year
• 4:09
  olds
• 4:09
  come
• 4:09
  out
• 4:09
  of
• 4:09
  their,
• 4:10
  their
• 4:10
  education,
• 4:11
  they
• 4:11
  get
• 4:11
  a
• 4:11
  job
• 4:11
  and
• 4:12
  all
• 4:12
  of
• 4:12
  a
• 4:12
  sudden
• 4:12
  they
• 4:12
  go,
• 4:13
  oh
• 4:13
  my
• 4:13
  God,
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  is
• 4:13
  this
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  all
• 4:14
  there
• 4:14
  is
• 4:14
  to
• 4:14
  life?
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  Is
• 4:15
  this
• 4:15
  who
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  I
• 4:16
  am?
• 4:17
  So
• 4:17
  whoever
• 4:18
  it
• 4:18
  is
• 4:18
  that
• 4:18
  is
• 4:19
  asking
• 4:19
  who
• 4:19
  I
• 4:20
  am,
• 4:20
  Paramore
• 4:21
  Paradox
• 4:22
  is
• 4:22
  built
• 4:22
  for
• 4:22
  you.
• 4:23
  The
• 4:23
  divorce
• 4:24
  coaching.
• 4:25
  So
• 4:26
  from
• 4:26
  that,
• 4:26
  from
• 4:27
  that
• 4:27
  work,
• 4:28
  my
• 4:28
  whole
• 4:30
  project
• 4:31
  is
• 4:31
  about
• 4:32
  helping
• 4:32
  you
• 4:32
  hear
• 4:33
  your
• 4:33
  truth,
• 4:33
  your
• 4:33
  true
• 4:34
  self.
• 4:35
  And
• 4:36
  in
• 4:37
  doing
• 4:37
  so,
• 4:38
  the
• 4:38
  next
• 4:39
  step
• 4:40
  is
• 4:41
  creating
• 4:42
  what
• 4:43
  I
• 4:43
  call
• 4:43
  the
• 4:43
  true
• 4:43
  you
• 4:44
  2.0,
• 4:44
  which
• 4:45
  is
• 4:45
  the
• 4:46
  embodiment
• 4:47
  of
• 4:47
  who
• 4:48
  you
• 4:48
  really
• 4:48
  are
• 4:49
  brought
• 4:50
  into
• 4:51
  who
• 4:51
  you
• 4:51
  want
• 4:51
  to
• 4:51
  manifest
• 4:52
  in
• 4:52
  this
• 4:52
  body,
• 4:53
  in
• 4:53
  this
• 4:53
  lifetime
• 4:55
  on
• 4:55
  earth.
• 4:55
  Right
• 4:56
  now.
• 4:57
  Destination
• 4:58
  True
• 4:59
  2.0
• 5:00
  is
• 5:01
  the
• 5:01
  divorce
• 5:02
  coaching
• 5:03
  website.
• 5:05
  That
• 5:06
  again,
• 5:06
  it's,
• 5:07
  you
• 5:07
  know,
• 5:08
  my
• 5:08
  real
• 5:09
  niche
• 5:11
  client
• 5:12
  is
• 5:12
  a
• 5:13
  lesbian
• 5:13
  who
• 5:13
  has
• 5:14
  been
• 5:15
  in
• 5:15
  a
• 5:15
  psychologically
• 5:16
  abusive
• 5:16
  marriage.
• 5:17
  That's
• 5:18
  because
• 5:18
  that's
• 5:18
  who
• 5:18
  I
• 5:19
  was.
• 5:20
  And
• 5:20
  it's
• 5:21
  a,
• 5:23
  it's
• 5:23
  a
• 5:23
  group
• 5:24
  of
• 5:24
  people
• 5:24
  that
• 5:24
  I
• 5:25
  can
• 5:25
  speak
• 5:25
  to
• 5:25
  in
• 5:26
  a
• 5:26
  way
• 5:26
  that
• 5:26
  other
• 5:26
  people
• 5:27
  can't.
• 5:28
  That
• 5:29
  doesn't
• 5:29
  mean
• 5:29
  experience.
• 5:30
  Yes.
• 5:31
  That
• 5:31
  doesn't
• 5:31
  mean
• 5:31
  that
• 5:32
  I
• 5:32
  don't
• 5:32
  work
• 5:32
  with
• 5:32
  straight
• 5:33
  men,
• 5:33
  straight
• 5:33
  women,
• 5:34
  you
• 5:34
  know,
• 5:34
  blah,
• 5:34
  blah,
• 5:34
  blah.
• 5:34
  I
• 5:35
  do.
• 5:35
  I
• 5:35
  actually
• 5:35
  probably
• 5:36
  work
• 5:36
  with
• 5:36
  more
• 5:37
  straight
• 5:37
  men
• 5:37
  and
• 5:37
  women
• 5:38
  than
• 5:38
  I
• 5:38
  do
• 5:38
  with
• 5:38
  lesbians.
• 5:39
  But
• 5:41
  that's
• 5:41
  my
• 5:41
  specific
• 5:42
  niche.
• 5:43
  And
• 5:44
  what
• 5:44
  I
• 5:44
  have
• 5:44
  found
• 5:45
  from
• 5:46
  doing
• 5:46
  the
• 5:47
  divorce
• 5:47
  work
• 5:48
  is
• 5:49
  that,
• 5:49
  you
• 5:50
  know,
• 5:50
  people
• 5:50
  come
• 5:51
  in
• 5:51
  a
• 5:51
  state
• 5:51
  of
• 5:51
  trauma,
• 5:52
  especially
• 5:52
  when
• 5:53
  there's
• 5:53
  psychological
• 5:54
  abuse
• 5:54
  as
• 5:54
  a
• 5:54
  component.
• 5:55
  Once
• 5:56
  they
• 5:56
  dig
• 5:56
  through
• 5:56
  that,
• 5:57
  like
• 5:57
  when
• 5:57
  they
• 5:57
  come
• 5:57
  to
• 5:58
  you
• 5:58
  in
• 5:58
  the
• 5:58
  trauma,
• 5:59
  they're
• 5:59
  not
• 5:59
  thinking,
• 5:59
  who
• 6:00
  am
• 6:00
  I?
• 6:00
  They're
• 6:00
  just
• 6:00
  thinking,
• 6:02
  what
• 6:02
  the
• 6:02
  heck
• 6:02
  has
• 6:03
  been
• 6:03
  going
• 6:03
  on
• 6:03
  and
• 6:03
  how
• 6:04
  do
• 6:04
  I
• 6:04
  make
• 6:04
  it
• 6:04
  stop?
• 6:05
  But
• 6:06
  once
• 6:06
  they
• 6:06
  get
• 6:07
  through
• 6:07
  that,
• 6:08
  usually
• 6:09
  the
• 6:09
  veil
• 6:10
  starts
• 6:10
  to
• 6:10
  lift
• 6:10
  and
• 6:11
  they
• 6:11
  realize
• 6:11
  they've
• 6:12
  been
• 6:12
  in
• 6:12
  this
• 6:12
  fog
• 6:13
  and
• 6:13
  the
• 6:13
  fog
• 6:14
  starts
• 6:14
  to
• 6:14
  clear
• 6:15
  and
• 6:15
  that's
• 6:16
  when
• 6:16
  they
• 6:16
  start
• 6:16
  saying,
• 6:17
  oh,
• 6:17
  who
• 6:18
  am
• 6:18
  I?
• 6:20
  Don't
• 6:20
  know.
• 6:20
  I've
• 6:21
  been
• 6:21
  so
• 6:21
  separated
• 6:22
  from
• 6:22
  whoever
• 6:23
  I
• 6:23
  am
• 6:23
  that
• 6:24
  I
• 6:24
  didn't
• 6:24
  even
• 6:24
  know
• 6:25
  I
• 6:25
  was
• 6:25
  separated
• 6:25
  from
• 6:26
  from
• 6:26
  who
• 6:26
  I
• 6:26
  am.
• 6:26
  You
• 6:27
  know,
• 6:27
  one
• 6:27
  of
• 6:27
  the
• 6:27
  things
• 6:27
  that
• 6:27
  I
• 6:28
  found
• 6:28
  is
• 6:28
  interesting
• 6:29
  is
• 6:29
  you've
• 6:29
  got
• 6:29
  a
• 6:29
  chameleon
• 6:30
  on
• 6:30
  the
• 6:30
  main
• 6:30
  part
• 6:31
  of
• 6:31
  your
• 6:31
  page
• 6:32
  and
• 6:33
  people
• 6:33
  feel
• 6:34
  like
• 6:34
  they
• 6:34
  have
• 6:34
  to
• 6:35
  adapt.
• 6:36
  And
• 6:36
  one
• 6:37
  of
• 6:37
  the
• 6:37
  questions
• 6:37
  that
• 6:37
  I
• 6:38
  had
• 6:38
  come
• 6:38
  up
• 6:38
  with
• 6:39
  is,
• 6:40
  would
• 6:41
  you
• 6:41
  say.
• 6:41
  There's
• 6:42
  a
• 6:42
  couple.
• 6:42
  But
• 6:42
  would
• 6:43
  you
• 6:43
  say
• 6:43
  that
• 6:44
  your
• 6:44
  true
• 6:44
  self
• 6:45
  emerges
• 6:46
  from
• 6:46
  the
• 6:46
  unconscious
• 6:47
  mind?
• 6:47
  And
• 6:47
  how
• 6:47
  do
• 6:47
  you
• 6:48
  know
• 6:48
  when
• 6:48
  you're
• 6:48
  out
• 6:48
  of
• 6:48
  touch
• 6:49
  with
• 6:49
  that?
• 6:51
  So
• 6:53
  from
• 6:53
  your
• 6:53
  unconscious
• 6:54
  mind?
• 6:57
  I
• 6:57
  don't
• 6:57
  know
• 6:57
  that
• 6:58
  I
• 6:58
  would
• 6:58
  say
• 6:58
  that.
• 6:59
  But
• 6:59
  how
• 7:00
  do
• 7:00
  you
• 7:00
  know?
• 7:00
  How
• 7:00
  do
• 7:01
  you
• 7:01
  know
• 7:01
  you're
• 7:01
  out
• 7:01
  of
• 7:01
  touch
• 7:02
  with
• 7:02
  it?
• 7:03
  So
• 7:04
  my
• 7:05
  belief,
• 7:05
  like,
• 7:06
  I
• 7:06
  hate
• 7:06
  the
• 7:07
  concept
• 7:07
  of
• 7:07
  self,
• 7:08
  self
• 7:08
  help,
• 7:09
  and
• 7:09
  I
• 7:09
  don't
• 7:09
  even
• 7:09
  like
• 7:10
  the
• 7:10
  concept
• 7:10
  of
• 7:11
  personal
• 7:11
  development.
• 7:12
  And
• 7:13
  it's
• 7:13
  because
• 7:13
  both
• 7:13
  of
• 7:14
  those
• 7:14
  imply
• 7:15
  that
• 7:15
  something's
• 7:16
  broken
• 7:16
  or
• 7:16
  that
• 7:17
  you
• 7:18
  can
• 7:18
  be
• 7:18
  improved
• 7:19
  or
• 7:19
  something
• 7:19
  like
• 7:20
  that.
• 7:20
  And
• 7:21
  really
• 7:21
  what
• 7:22
  I
• 7:22
  believe,
• 7:23
  and
• 7:23
  this
• 7:23
  ties
• 7:23
  in
• 7:24
  with,
• 7:24
  like,
• 7:24
  how
• 7:24
  do
• 7:25
  you
• 7:25
  know
• 7:27
  that
• 7:27
  you're
• 7:27
  out
• 7:27
  of
• 7:27
  touch
• 7:28
  or
• 7:28
  disconnected?
• 7:29
  What
• 7:30
  I
• 7:30
  believe
• 7:30
  is
• 7:31
  it
• 7:31
  is
• 7:31
  about
• 7:31
  peeling
• 7:32
  off
• 7:32
  those
• 7:32
  layers.
• 7:33
  So
• 7:33
  that
• 7:33
  is
• 7:33
  why
• 7:33
  the
• 7:34
  chameleon
• 7:34
  is
• 7:34
  there.
• 7:35
  So
• 7:35
  we
• 7:35
  all
• 7:35
  put
• 7:36
  these,
• 7:36
  even
• 7:37
  people
• 7:37
  born
• 7:37
  into
• 7:38
  healthy
• 7:39
  families,
• 7:40
  which
• 7:40
  there's
• 7:40
  not
• 7:41
  many
• 7:41
  of
• 7:41
  them
• 7:41
  out
• 7:41
  there,
• 7:41
  but
• 7:42
  even
• 7:42
  people
• 7:42
  born
• 7:42
  into
• 7:43
  healthy
• 7:43
  families
• 7:44
  have
• 7:44
  to
• 7:45
  put
• 7:45
  on
• 7:45
  layers
• 7:46
  to
• 7:46
  adapt,
• 7:47
  to
• 7:48
  fit
• 7:48
  in
• 7:48
  at
• 7:48
  work,
• 7:50
  to,
• 7:51
  you
• 7:52
  know,
• 7:52
  have
• 7:52
  the
• 7:53
  identity
• 7:53
  that
• 7:53
  their
• 7:54
  parent,
• 7:54
  you
• 7:54
  know,
• 7:55
  the
• 7:55
  doctor
• 7:55
  or
• 7:55
  whatever,
• 7:56
  that
• 7:56
  their
• 7:56
  parents
• 7:56
  wanted
• 7:57
  to
• 7:57
  be,
• 7:58
  you
• 7:59
  know,
• 7:59
  to
• 7:59
  be
• 7:59
  perceived
• 8:00
  as
• 8:00
  a
• 8:00
  good
• 8:01
  father
• 8:01
  or
• 8:02
  mother
• 8:02
  or
• 8:02
  whatever.
• 8:03
  Like
• 8:04
  we,
• 8:04
  we
• 8:05
  put
• 8:05
  on
• 8:05
  masks,
• 8:06
  not
• 8:07
  just
• 8:07
  out
• 8:08
  of
• 8:08
  trauma.
• 8:10
  And
• 8:10
  those
• 8:10
  masks
• 8:11
  are
• 8:11
  there
• 8:11
  to
• 8:12
  either
• 8:12
  keep
• 8:13
  us
• 8:13
  safe,
• 8:14
  help
• 8:15
  us
• 8:15
  get
• 8:15
  loved,
• 8:16
  or
• 8:18
  for
• 8:18
  acceptance.
• 8:19
  So
• 8:19
  basically
• 8:19
  survival
• 8:21
  and
• 8:21
  love
• 8:22
  and
• 8:23
  it's
• 8:23
  totally
• 8:24
  normal.
• 8:24
  A
• 8:24
  lot
• 8:25
  of
• 8:25
  times
• 8:25
  when
• 8:25
  people
• 8:26
  start
• 8:26
  to
• 8:26
  realize
• 8:27
  they've
• 8:27
  got
• 8:28
  masks,
• 8:28
  and
• 8:29
  that
• 8:29
  will
• 8:29
  get
• 8:29
  to
• 8:29
  your
• 8:30
  question.
• 8:31
  A
• 8:31
  lot
• 8:31
  of
• 8:32
  times
• 8:32
  when
• 8:32
  people
• 8:32
  start
• 8:32
  to
• 8:33
  realize
• 8:33
  they
• 8:33
  have
• 8:34
  masks,
• 8:34
  they
• 8:34
  feel
• 8:34
  shame
• 8:35
  and
• 8:35
  guilt.
• 8:36
  And
• 8:37
  the
• 8:37
  first
• 8:37
  thing
• 8:37
  to
• 8:38
  realize
• 8:38
  is,
• 8:39
  you
• 8:40
  know,
• 8:41
  you
• 8:41
  are
• 8:42
  just
• 8:43
  adapting
• 8:44
  in
• 8:44
  the
• 8:44
  way
• 8:45
  to
• 8:45
  get
• 8:45
  you
• 8:48
  safety
• 8:48
  and
• 8:49
  love.
• 8:49
  And
• 8:50
  there's
• 8:50
  nothing
• 8:50
  wrong
• 8:51
  with
• 8:51
  that,
• 8:51
  right?
• 8:51
  And
• 8:52
  we
• 8:52
  all
• 8:52
  do
• 8:52
  it.
• 8:53
  So
• 8:54
  freeing
• 8:55
  yourself
• 8:55
  of
• 8:55
  that
• 8:56
  shame
• 8:56
  and
• 8:56
  guilt
• 8:57
  is
• 8:57
  a
• 8:58
  wonderful
• 8:58
  first
• 8:58
  step.
• 8:59
  So
• 9:00
  the
• 9:00
  way
• 9:01
  I,
• 9:01
  I
• 9:01
  find
• 9:02
  that
• 9:03
  it
• 9:03
  is
• 9:04
  communicated
• 9:05
  to
• 9:05
  people
• 9:05
  that
• 9:06
  they're
• 9:06
  somehow
• 9:06
  out
• 9:07
  of
• 9:07
  touch
• 9:07
  with
• 9:08
  their
• 9:08
  truth
• 9:09
  is,
• 9:10
  well,
• 9:10
  one
• 9:11
  is
• 9:11
  their
• 9:11
  work
• 9:11
  is
• 9:12
  their
• 9:13
  life
• 9:13
  is
• 9:13
  work.
• 9:13
  Because
• 9:14
  life
• 9:14
  isn't
• 9:15
  really
• 9:15
  supposed
• 9:15
  to
• 9:16
  be
• 9:16
  work.
• 9:16
  So
• 9:17
  but
• 9:17
  the
• 9:18
  concept
• 9:18
  there
• 9:18
  is
• 9:18
  like,
• 9:18
  huh,
• 9:19
  so
• 9:19
  life
• 9:20
  isn't
• 9:20
  supposed
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  be
• 9:20
  work.
• 9:21
  Relationships
• 9:22
  aren't
• 9:22
  supposed
• 9:22
  to
• 9:22
  be
• 9:22
  work,
• 9:24
  although
• 9:24
  we
• 9:25
  think
• 9:25
  they
• 9:25
  are.
• 9:27
  So
• 9:27
  one
• 9:27
  thing
• 9:28
  is
• 9:28
  looking
• 9:28
  at
• 9:28
  that,
• 9:28
  but
• 9:29
  the
• 9:29
  other
• 9:29
  thing
• 9:29
  is
• 9:32
  one
• 9:32
  of
• 9:32
  the
• 9:33
  pieces
• 9:33
  that
• 9:34
  saved
• 9:35
  me
• 9:35
  when
• 9:36
  I
• 9:36
  was
• 9:36
  doing
• 9:38
  my
• 9:38
  work
• 9:39
  Post
• 9:39
  divorce
• 9:40
  was
• 9:40
  understanding
• 9:42
  that
• 9:42
  loop
• 9:42
  that
• 9:42
  a
• 9:43
  lot
• 9:43
  of,
• 9:44
  you
• 9:44
  know,
• 9:44
  psychologists
• 9:45
  and
• 9:46
  neuroscience
• 9:47
  and
• 9:47
  whatever
• 9:47
  talk
• 9:48
  about
• 9:48
  where
• 9:49
  you
• 9:49
  have
• 9:49
  a
• 9:49
  thought,
• 9:49
  the
• 9:50
  thought
• 9:50
  leads
• 9:50
  to
• 9:50
  an
• 9:51
  emotion.
• 9:51
  The
• 9:51
  emotion
• 9:52
  is
• 9:52
  a
• 9:53
  feeling.
• 9:53
  The
• 9:53
  feeling
• 9:53
  releases
• 9:54
  a
• 9:54
  chemical,
• 9:55
  the
• 9:55
  chemical
• 9:57
  you
• 9:57
  actually
• 9:58
  become
• 9:58
  addicted
• 9:59
  to
• 10:00
  that
• 10:01
  helps
• 10:01
  set
• 10:01
  a
• 10:02
  behavior.
• 10:03
  The
• 10:03
  behavior
• 10:04
  then
• 10:04
  creates
• 10:05
  an
• 10:05
  experience
• 10:06
  and
• 10:06
  then
• 10:06
  the
• 10:06
  experience
• 10:07
  comes
• 10:07
  back
• 10:08
  to
• 10:08
  the
• 10:08
  thought,
• 10:08
  which
• 10:09
  then
• 10:10
  it
• 10:10
  builds
• 10:10
  on
• 10:11
  itself.
• 10:11
  Right?
• 10:11
  It's
• 10:11
  this
• 10:12
  loop
• 10:12
  that
• 10:12
  we
• 10:12
  get
• 10:12
  stuck
• 10:13
  in.
• 10:14
  Part
• 10:15
  of
• 10:15
  what
• 10:15
  I
• 10:16
  strive
• 10:17
  to
• 10:17
  help
• 10:17
  people
• 10:18
  do
• 10:19
  is
• 10:19
  to
• 10:20
  break
• 10:21
  that
• 10:21
  loop.
• 10:22
  And
• 10:23
  to
• 10:24
  do
• 10:24
  that
• 10:24
  you
• 10:25
  have
• 10:25
  to
• 10:25
  create
• 10:26
  awareness.
• 10:28
  So
• 10:28
  there's
• 10:28
  a
• 10:28
  lot
• 10:29
  of
• 10:29
  different
• 10:29
  ways
• 10:30
  to
• 10:30
  do
• 10:30
  that.
• 10:30
  And
• 10:31
  you
• 10:31
  can
• 10:31
  break
• 10:31
  the
• 10:32
  loop
• 10:32
  at
• 10:32
  thought,
• 10:33
  emotion,
• 10:34
  behavior
• 10:35
  or
• 10:36
  experience.
• 10:37
  To
• 10:38
  get
• 10:38
  back
• 10:38
  to
• 10:38
  your
• 10:38
  question,
• 10:39
  See,
• 10:39
  I
• 10:40
  really
• 10:40
  am
• 10:40
  going
• 10:40
  to
• 10:40
  answer
• 10:41
  it.
• 10:41
  To
• 10:41
  get
• 10:41
  back
• 10:42
  to
• 10:42
  your
• 10:42
  question
• 10:42
  of
• 10:43
  how
• 10:43
  you
• 10:43
  find
• 10:43
  out
• 10:44
  that
• 10:44
  you
• 10:44
  are
• 10:45
  disconnected
• 10:46
  is
• 10:47
  your
• 10:47
  true
• 10:48
  self
• 10:48
  can't
• 10:48
  text
• 10:48
  you.
• 10:49
  Darn
• 10:49
  it.
• 10:50
  And
• 10:51
  so
• 10:51
  the
• 10:51
  only
• 10:51
  way
• 10:51
  your
• 10:52
  true
• 10:52
  self
• 10:52
  can
• 10:53
  communicate
• 10:53
  with
• 10:53
  you
• 10:54
  is
• 10:54
  through
• 10:54
  emotion.
• 10:56
  So
• 10:56
  you,
• 10:57
  you
• 10:57
  get
• 10:57
  a
• 10:57
  job
• 10:57
  offer
• 10:58
  and
• 10:58
  you
• 10:58
  feel
• 10:58
  this
• 10:59
  kind
• 10:59
  of
• 10:59
  like
• 10:59
  knot
• 11:00
  in
• 11:00
  your
• 11:00
  stomach
• 11:00
  and
• 11:01
  you're
• 11:01
  like,
• 11:02
  you
• 11:02
  know,
• 11:03
  I
• 11:03
  just
• 11:03
  didn't
• 11:04
  really
• 11:04
  click
• 11:04
  with
• 11:04
  the
• 11:05
  boss
• 11:05
  or
• 11:05
  the
• 11:06
  vibe
• 11:06
  in
• 11:06
  the
• 11:06
  office
• 11:07
  didn't
• 11:07
  feel
• 11:07
  right.
• 11:08
  And
• 11:08
  so
• 11:09
  you
• 11:09
  kind
• 11:09
  of
• 11:09
  drag
• 11:09
  your
• 11:10
  feet
• 11:10
  on
• 11:10
  accepting
• 11:11
  it.
• 11:11
  But
• 11:11
  then
• 11:11
  the
• 11:12
  money
• 11:12
  gets
• 11:12
  tight
• 11:12
  and
• 11:12
  you're
• 11:13
  like,
• 11:13
  okay,
• 11:13
  I
• 11:13
  need
• 11:13
  money,
• 11:14
  I'm
• 11:14
  going
• 11:14
  to
• 11:14
  take
• 11:14
  the
• 11:14
  job.
• 11:15
  You
• 11:15
  take
• 11:15
  the
• 11:16
  job
• 11:16
  and
• 11:17
  you
• 11:18
  start
• 11:18
  to
• 11:18
  just,
• 11:18
  you
• 11:19
  don't
• 11:19
  want
• 11:19
  to
• 11:19
  get
• 11:19
  up
• 11:19
  in
• 11:19
  the
• 11:20
  morning,
• 11:20
  you
• 11:20
  hit
• 11:20
  your
• 11:20
  snooze
• 11:21
  button
• 11:21
  as
• 11:21
  many
• 11:22
  times
• 11:22
  as
• 11:22
  you
• 11:22
  can.
• 11:22
  You
• 11:23
  get
• 11:23
  to
• 11:23
  work
• 11:23
  late,
• 11:24
  you're
• 11:24
  kind
• 11:25
  of
• 11:25
  grumpy.
• 11:25
  It's
• 11:26
  like
• 11:26
  everybody
• 11:26
  pushes
• 11:27
  your
• 11:27
  but
• 11:27
  buttons.
• 11:29
  You
• 11:29
  kind
• 11:29
  of
• 11:29
  have
• 11:30
  headaches
• 11:30
  and
• 11:30
  you're
• 11:31
  getting
• 11:31
  muscle
• 11:32
  tension,
• 11:33
  but
• 11:33
  you
• 11:33
  just
• 11:33
  work
• 11:34
  through
• 11:34
  it.
• 11:35
  And
• 11:35
  then.
• 11:36
  So
• 11:36
  that's
• 11:36
  true
• 11:37
  self's
• 11:37
  second
• 11:38
  message
• 11:38
  to
• 11:38
  you,
• 11:38
  right?
• 11:39
  It's
• 11:39
  a
• 11:39
  little
• 11:40
  bit,
• 11:40
  a
• 11:40
  little
• 11:40
  bit
• 11:40
  more
• 11:41
  persistent.
• 11:42
  You
• 11:42
  don't
• 11:43
  listen
• 11:43
  to
• 11:43
  true
• 11:44
  self.
• 11:44
  So
• 11:45
  you
• 11:45
  keep
• 11:45
  your
• 11:46
  job,
• 11:46
  keep
• 11:46
  working.
• 11:47
  And
• 11:47
  then
• 11:48
  all
• 11:49
  of
• 11:49
  a
• 11:49
  sudden
• 11:49
  you
• 11:49
  start
• 11:50
  to
• 11:50
  get
• 11:50
  sort
• 11:50
  of
• 11:50
  anxiety
• 11:51
  and
• 11:52
  panic
• 11:52
  attacks
• 11:53
  and,
• 11:54
  and
• 11:55
  you
• 11:56
  snap
• 11:56
  at
• 11:56
  people
• 11:57
  and
• 11:58
  maybe
• 11:59
  anger
• 11:59
  comes
• 11:59
  out.
• 12:00
  You
• 12:01
  still
• 12:01
  ignore
• 12:01
  that.
• 12:02
  So
• 12:02
  that
• 12:02
  was
• 12:02
  message
• 12:03
  number
• 12:03
  three.
• 12:03
  So
• 12:04
  now
• 12:04
  true
• 12:04
  selves
• 12:05
  has
• 12:05
  to
• 12:05
  hit
• 12:05
  you
• 12:05
  over
• 12:06
  the
• 12:06
  head
• 12:06
  with
• 12:06
  a
• 12:06
  two
• 12:06
  by
• 12:06
  four.
• 12:07
  So
• 12:08
  then
• 12:08
  you
• 12:08
  get
• 12:08
  cancer
• 12:09
  or
• 12:10
  your
• 12:10
  spouse
• 12:11
  leaves
• 12:11
  you,
• 12:11
  or
• 12:12
  you
• 12:12
  get
• 12:13
  so
• 12:13
  sick
• 12:13
  you
• 12:14
  get
• 12:14
  chronic
• 12:14
  fatigue
• 12:15
  syndrome
• 12:15
  or,
• 12:16
  you
• 12:16
  know,
• 12:17
  whatever.
• 12:17
  But
• 12:18
  true
• 12:18
  self
• 12:19
  will
• 12:19
  find
• 12:19
  some
• 12:20
  way
• 12:20
  of
• 12:21
  screaming
• 12:21
  at
• 12:21
  you.
• 12:22
  At
• 12:22
  that
• 12:22
  point
• 12:23
  you
• 12:24
  need
• 12:24
  to
• 12:24
  do
• 12:24
  something
• 12:24
  different.
• 12:26
  So
• 12:28
  during
• 12:28
  those
• 12:29
  steps,
• 12:30
  the
• 12:30
  longer
• 12:31
  you
• 12:31
  don't
• 12:31
  listen,
• 12:32
  the
• 12:33
  louder
• 12:33
  the
• 12:33
  message
• 12:34
  is
• 12:34
  going
• 12:34
  to
• 12:34
  get.
• 12:35
  And
• 12:36
  that's
• 12:36
  when
• 12:36
  people
• 12:37
  usually
• 12:37
  finally
• 12:38
  wake
• 12:38
  up.
• 12:38
  And
• 12:38
  go,
• 12:39
  oh,
• 12:39
  I'm
• 12:40
  working
• 12:40
  in
• 12:40
  a
• 12:41
  broken
• 12:41
  loop
• 12:41
  here.
• 12:42
  How
• 12:42
  do
• 12:42
  I
• 12:42
  fix
• 12:43
  this?
• 12:43
  Yep.
• 12:44
  You
• 12:44
  need
• 12:44
  to
• 12:44
  find
• 12:44
  a
• 12:45
  way
• 12:45
  out.
• 12:45
  And
• 12:45
  we've
• 12:45
  got
• 12:45
  to
• 12:46
  take
• 12:46
  a,
• 12:46
  a
• 12:46
  way
• 12:47
  out
• 12:47
  ourselves
• 12:47
  right
• 12:48
  here,
• 12:48
  right
• 12:48
  now.
• 12:48
  We've
• 12:49
  got
• 12:49
  to
• 12:49
  take
• 12:49
  a
• 12:49
  short
• 12:49
  break.
• 12:50
  I'm
• 12:50
  Anthony
• 12:50
  Wright
• 12:51
  with
• 12:51
  my
• 12:52
  co
• 12:52
  host
• 12:52
  Adam
• 12:53
  Dietz.
• 12:53
  And
• 12:54
  we
• 12:54
  are
• 12:54
  talking
• 12:54
  with
• 12:55
  our
• 12:55
  guest,
• 12:55
  Kristen
• 12:56
  Crabtree.
• 12:57
  And
• 12:57
  how
• 12:57
  can
• 12:58
  people
• 12:58
  contact
• 12:58
  you,
• 12:58
  Kristen?
• 13:00
  I
• 13:00
  love
• 13:01
  to
• 13:01
  just
• 13:01
  have
• 13:01
  chats
• 13:02
  with
• 13:02
  people.
• 13:02
  Again,
• 13:02
  this
• 13:03
  is
• 13:03
  my
• 13:03
  mission.
• 13:03
  So
• 13:04
  the
• 13:04
  website
• 13:04
  is
• 13:05
  u20.com
• 13:07
  y
• 13:07
  o
• 13:08
  u
• 13:08
  the
• 13:08
  number
• 13:09
  two
• 13:09
  the
• 13:09
  word
• 13:09
  point
• 13:10
  the
• 13:10
  number
• 13:10
  zero
• 13:11
  dot
• 13:11
  com.
• 13:12
  Great.
• 13:13
  All
• 13:13
  right,
• 13:13
  we're
• 13:13
  going
• 13:13
  to
• 13:13
  take
• 13:14
  a
• 13:14
  short
• 13:14
  break
• 13:14
  and
• 13:14
  be
• 13:14
  right
• 13:15
  back.
• 13:15
  So
• 13:15
  stay
• 13:15
  tuned.
• 13:17
  I'm
• 13:17
  Anthony
• 13:17
  Wright
• 13:18
  and
• 13:18
  I'm
• 13:18
  your
• 13:18
  co
• 13:19
  host
• 13:19
  today
• 13:19
  on
• 13:19
  the
• 13:19
  Living
• 13:20
  Conversation
• 13:20
  with
• 13:21
  Adam
• 13:21
  Dietz.
• 13:22
  And
• 13:22
  before
• 13:23
  the,
• 13:23
  and
• 13:23
  our
• 13:23
  guest
• 13:24
  is
• 13:24
  Kristen
• 13:25
  Crabtree.
• 13:26
  Yep.
• 13:26
  Yeah.
• 13:27
  And
• 13:27
  before
• 13:27
  the
• 13:28
  break,
• 13:28
  you
• 13:28
  were
• 13:28
  talking
• 13:29
  about
• 13:31
  how
• 13:31
  the
• 13:32
  true
• 13:33
  self
• 13:33
  tries
• 13:33
  to
• 13:34
  get
• 13:34
  your
• 13:34
  attention
• 13:35
  when
• 13:35
  you're
• 13:36
  not
• 13:36
  aligned.
• 13:37
  And,
• 13:37
  and
• 13:39
  did
• 13:39
  you
• 13:40
  have
• 13:40
  anything,
• 13:40
  any.
• 13:41
  Anything's
• 13:41
  come
• 13:42
  to
• 13:42
  mind,
• 13:42
  Adam?
• 13:43
  From
• 13:43
  what
• 13:43
  Kristen
• 13:44
  was
• 13:44
  talking
• 13:44
  about
• 13:44
  before.
• 13:45
  The
• 13:45
  break,
• 13:45
  a
• 13:46
  lot
• 13:46
  of
• 13:46
  different
• 13:46
  things
• 13:47
  for
• 13:47
  sure.
• 13:49
  First
• 13:50
  thing
• 13:50
  that
• 13:50
  came
• 13:50
  to
• 13:50
  mind
• 13:50
  was
• 13:51
  this
• 13:51
  idea
• 13:52
  of
• 13:52
  who
• 13:52
  am
• 13:52
  I?
• 13:53
  That
• 13:53
  is
• 13:53
  like
• 13:54
  one
• 13:54
  of
• 13:54
  the
• 13:54
  first
• 13:54
  questions
• 13:55
  of
• 13:55
  Western
• 13:55
  philosophy.
• 13:56
  Who
• 13:56
  am
• 13:56
  I?
• 13:56
  What
• 13:56
  is
• 13:56
  the
• 13:57
  universe
• 13:57
  made
• 13:57
  out
• 13:57
  of?
• 13:58
  So
• 13:58
  I
• 13:58
  think
• 13:58
  it's
• 13:58
  very
• 13:59
  interesting
• 13:59
  and
• 13:59
  really
• 13:59
  appreciate
• 14:00
  that
• 14:00
  that's
• 14:00
  where
• 14:00
  you're
• 14:01
  going,
• 14:01
  you
• 14:01
  know,
• 14:02
  and
• 14:02
  that
• 14:02
  you
• 14:02
  feel
• 14:02
  really
• 14:02
  called
• 14:03
  to
• 14:03
  this
• 14:03
  question.
• 14:03
  I
• 14:04
  appreciate
• 14:04
  that.
• 14:07
  Another
• 14:07
  thing
• 14:07
  that
• 14:08
  two
• 14:08
  more,
• 14:08
  two
• 14:09
  more
• 14:09
  things
• 14:09
  that
• 14:09
  really
• 14:09
  came
• 14:10
  up
• 14:10
  for
• 14:10
  me.
• 14:10
  One
• 14:10
  is,
• 14:12
  well,
• 14:13
  I
• 14:13
  guess
• 14:13
  I'll
• 14:13
  go
• 14:13
  with
• 14:14
  the,
• 14:14
  the
• 14:14
  last
• 14:14
  one
• 14:14
  first.
• 14:15
  Like,
• 14:16
  how
• 14:16
  do
• 14:16
  you
• 14:16
  differentiate,
• 14:18
  like,
• 14:18
  just
• 14:19
  being
• 14:19
  spoiled
• 14:19
  and
• 14:20
  like,
• 14:20
  I
• 14:20
  really
• 14:20
  want
• 14:21
  this
• 14:21
  and
• 14:21
  I
• 14:21
  don't
• 14:22
  want
• 14:22
  that
• 14:22
  versus
• 14:23
  what
• 14:23
  your
• 14:23
  calling
• 14:23
  is
• 14:24
  like
• 14:24
  from,
• 14:24
  you
• 14:24
  know,
• 14:24
  and
• 14:25
  that
• 14:25
  leads
• 14:25
  to
• 14:25
  my,
• 14:25
  my
• 14:26
  other
• 14:26
  question
• 14:27
  is
• 14:27
  there
• 14:27
  is
• 14:28
  for,
• 14:28
  for
• 14:29
  a
• 14:29
  philosopher
• 14:29
  who's
• 14:30
  worked
• 14:30
  on
• 14:30
  philosophy
• 14:31
  for
• 14:31
  so
• 14:31
  long,
• 14:32
  there's
• 14:32
  a
• 14:32
  true
• 14:32
  stuff
• 14:33
  that
• 14:33
  is
• 14:33
  like,
• 14:34
  you
• 14:34
  know,
• 14:34
  metaphysical
• 14:35
  and
• 14:36
  universal
• 14:37
  and
• 14:37
  comes
• 14:37
  from
• 14:37
  the
• 14:37
  beginning
• 14:38
  of
• 14:38
  time
• 14:38
  and
• 14:38
  space
• 14:38
  and
• 14:39
  is
• 14:39
  like
• 14:39
  this
• 14:40
  links
• 14:40
  with
• 14:40
  the
• 14:41
  universal
• 14:41
  energy.
• 14:42
  So
• 14:42
  I
• 14:42
  wonder
• 14:42
  if
• 14:42
  there's
• 14:42
  an
• 14:43
  element
• 14:43
  of
• 14:43
  that
• 14:43
  to
• 14:44
  your
• 14:44
  concept
• 14:45
  of
• 14:45
  true
• 14:45
  self
• 14:45
  as
• 14:45
  well.
• 14:46
  So
• 14:46
  my
• 14:46
  one
• 14:47
  question
• 14:47
  is,
• 14:47
  is
• 14:47
  there
• 14:48
  like
• 14:48
  a
• 14:48
  higher
• 14:49
  self,
• 14:49
  so
• 14:49
  to
• 14:49
  speak?
• 14:50
  And
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  other
• 14:50
  question
• 14:51
  is
• 14:51
  how
• 14:51
  do
• 14:51
  you
• 14:51
  know
• 14:52
  when
• 14:52
  your
• 14:53
  true
• 14:53
  self
• 14:53
  is
• 14:54
  calling
• 14:54
  to
• 14:54
  you
• 14:54
  and
• 14:54
  when
• 14:54
  you're
• 14:55
  just
• 14:55
  like
• 14:55
  being
• 14:55
  spoiled
• 14:56
  and
• 14:56
  like,
• 14:57
  I
• 14:57
  just
• 14:57
  like
• 14:57
  this,
• 14:58
  Right?
• 14:59
  Yeah,
• 14:59
  I
• 15:00
  know,
• 15:00
  I
• 15:00
  know.
• 15:00
  I
• 15:00
  struggle
• 15:00
  with
• 15:01
  that.
• 15:01
  I
• 15:01
  struggle
• 15:01
  with
• 15:01
  it
• 15:01
  in
• 15:02
  the
• 15:02
  past
• 15:02
  and
• 15:02
  that
• 15:03
  kind
• 15:03
  of
• 15:03
  thing.
• 15:03
  Right.
• 15:04
  So
• 15:04
  which
• 15:04
  one
• 15:04
  do
• 15:05
  you
• 15:05
  want
• 15:05
  me
• 15:05
  to
• 15:05
  answer
• 15:05
  first?
• 15:06
  You
• 15:06
  know
• 15:06
  what,
• 15:06
  I'll
• 15:06
  just
• 15:06
  Pick.
• 15:07
  Yeah.
• 15:07
  Yeah.
• 15:08
  To
• 15:09
  answer
• 15:09
  the
• 15:09
  second
• 15:10
  one.
• 15:10
  The.
• 15:10
  How
• 15:11
  do
• 15:11
  you
• 15:11
  know
• 15:11
  if
• 15:12
  it's
• 15:12
  just
• 15:12
  this
• 15:12
  is
• 15:13
  what
• 15:13
  I
• 15:13
  want
• 15:13
  versus
• 15:14
  this
• 15:14
  is
• 15:14
  my
• 15:15
  calling?
• 15:16
  If
• 15:17
  you.
• 15:19
  If
• 15:20
  you
• 15:20
  need
• 15:20
  discipline
• 15:21
  and
• 15:21
  motivation
• 15:23
  to
• 15:23
  get
• 15:23
  whatever
• 15:24
  it
• 15:24
  is
• 15:25
  you
• 15:25
  think
• 15:25
  you
• 15:26
  want,
• 15:26
  it's
• 15:27
  not
• 15:27
  your
• 15:27
  true
• 15:28
  self.
• 15:29
  If
• 15:29
  you're
• 15:30
  aligned
• 15:30
  with
• 15:30
  your
• 15:31
  true
• 15:31
  self,
• 15:32
  you
• 15:32
  live
• 15:32
  it,
• 15:33
  breathe
• 15:33
  it,
• 15:33
  talk
• 15:34
  it,
• 15:34
  think
• 15:34
  about
• 15:34
  it,
• 15:35
  dream
• 15:35
  about
• 15:35
  it,
• 15:36
  obsess
• 15:36
  about
• 15:37
  it,
• 15:37
  work.
• 15:38
  As
• 15:38
  soon
• 15:38
  as
• 15:38
  you
• 15:39
  can
• 15:39
  get
• 15:39
  up
• 15:39
  in
• 15:39
  the
• 15:39
  morning,
• 15:39
  you're
• 15:40
  like,
• 15:40
  yes,
• 15:40
  I
• 15:40
  can't
• 15:40
  wait
• 15:41
  to
• 15:41
  get
• 15:41
  going.
• 15:41
  And
• 15:41
  you
• 15:42
  stay
• 15:42
  up
• 15:42
  until
• 15:42
  11
• 15:42
  o'
• 15:43
  clock
• 15:43
  at
• 15:43
  night,
• 15:44
  not
• 15:44
  because
• 15:44
  you
• 15:44
  have
• 15:45
  to,
• 15:45
  but
• 15:45
  because
• 15:46
  you
• 15:46
  just
• 15:46
  have
• 15:46
  one
• 15:47
  more
• 15:47
  thing
• 15:47
  to
• 15:48
  do,
• 15:48
  one
• 15:48
  more
• 15:48
  page
• 15:49
  to
• 15:49
  write.
• 15:49
  That's
• 15:50
  like
• 15:50
  a
• 15:50
  flow
• 15:50
  state.
• 15:51
  Yeah.
• 15:52
  And
• 15:52
  it's
• 15:52
  like
• 15:52
  a
• 15:53
  flow
• 15:53
  state
• 15:53
  all
• 15:54
  darn
• 15:54
  day.
• 15:55
  I
• 15:55
  mean,
• 15:55
  it
• 15:55
  really
• 15:56
  is
• 15:57
  kind
• 15:57
  of
• 15:57
  amazing
• 15:59
  when
• 15:59
  you
• 15:59
  get
• 15:59
  aligned
• 16:00
  with
• 16:00
  your
• 16:00
  truth,
• 16:01
  how
• 16:02
  life
• 16:02
  changes.
• 16:04
  Truly.
• 16:05
  You
• 16:05
  know,
• 16:06
  three
• 16:07
  years
• 16:07
  ago,
• 16:07
  I
• 16:07
  was
• 16:07
  on
• 16:08
  my
• 16:08
  bathroom
• 16:08
  floor
• 16:08
  vomiting
• 16:09
  about
• 16:09
  this
• 16:10
  time
• 16:10
  of
• 16:10
  year
• 16:12
  from
• 16:12
  anxiety
• 16:13
  from
• 16:13
  being
• 16:14
  in
• 16:14
  a
• 16:14
  psychologically
• 16:15
  abusive
• 16:15
  marriage
• 16:15
  that
• 16:16
  I
• 16:16
  didn't
• 16:16
  know
• 16:16
  I
• 16:16
  was
• 16:16
  being
• 16:17
  psychologically
• 16:17
  abused
• 16:18
  in.
• 16:18
  You
• 16:19
  know,
• 16:19
  and
• 16:19
  here
• 16:19
  I
• 16:19
  am
• 16:19
  today.
• 16:20
  And
• 16:20
  it's
• 16:20
  funny,
• 16:21
  I
• 16:21
  told
• 16:21
  my
• 16:21
  therapist
• 16:21
  a
• 16:22
  couple
• 16:22
  months
• 16:22
  ago,
• 16:22
  I'm
• 16:22
  like,
• 16:22
  you
• 16:23
  know,
• 16:23
  I
• 16:24
  had
• 16:24
  this
• 16:24
  weird,
• 16:25
  like,
• 16:25
  calm
• 16:26
  happiness
• 16:27
  all
• 16:27
  the
• 16:27
  time.
• 16:28
  Like,
• 16:28
  no
• 16:28
  matter
• 16:28
  what's
• 16:29
  happening,
• 16:30
  I
• 16:30
  just
• 16:30
  feel
• 16:31
  kind
• 16:31
  of
• 16:31
  calm
• 16:32
  happiness.
• 16:32
  And
• 16:32
  he
• 16:33
  said,
• 16:33
  you
• 16:33
  know,
• 16:33
  that
• 16:33
  kind
• 16:33
  of
• 16:33
  sounds
• 16:34
  like
• 16:34
  peace
• 16:34
  to
• 16:34
  me.
• 16:36
  Oh,
• 16:36
  my
• 16:36
  God,
• 16:36
  I
• 16:37
  feel
• 16:37
  peace.
• 16:37
  That's
• 16:37
  amazing.
• 16:39
  So,
• 16:39
  yeah,
• 16:40
  okay.
• 16:40
  And
• 16:40
  then
• 16:40
  the
• 16:40
  other
• 16:41
  question
• 16:42
  was,
• 16:43
  oh,
• 16:43
  more
• 16:43
  the
• 16:44
  metaphysical
• 16:45
  components.
• 16:45
  So,
• 16:46
  yes,
• 16:46
  my
• 16:47
  belief
• 16:47
  is
• 16:48
  we
• 16:48
  are
• 16:48
  not
• 16:48
  humans
• 16:49
  with
• 16:49
  a
• 16:49
  soul.
• 16:49
  We
• 16:50
  are
• 16:50
  Source
• 16:50
  having
• 16:50
  a
• 16:51
  human
• 16:51
  experience.
• 16:53
  And
• 16:53
  so
• 16:53
  for
• 16:53
  me,
• 16:54
  your
• 16:54
  true
• 16:54
  self
• 16:55
  is
• 16:55
  really
• 16:55
  source
• 16:56
  wanting
• 16:56
  to
• 16:56
  experience
• 16:57
  things.
• 16:58
  The
• 16:58
  great
• 16:58
  thing
• 16:59
  about
• 16:59
  that
• 16:59
  perspective
• 17:00
  is
• 17:01
  that
• 17:01
  means
• 17:02
  all
• 17:02
  experience
• 17:03
  is
• 17:03
  created
• 17:04
  equal.
• 17:04
  So
• 17:04
  pain,
• 17:05
  pleasure,
• 17:05
  happiness,
• 17:07
  fear,
• 17:07
  love,
• 17:09
  passion,
• 17:10
  trauma,
• 17:11
  like
• 17:12
  all
• 17:12
  of
• 17:12
  it
• 17:12
  is
• 17:13
  equal
• 17:13
  because
• 17:14
  it's
• 17:14
  just
• 17:14
  Source
• 17:15
  wanting
• 17:15
  to
• 17:16
  source
• 17:16
  doesn't
• 17:16
  get
• 17:17
  to
• 17:17
  experience
• 17:17
  any
• 17:18
  of
• 17:18
  that.
• 17:18
  Source
• 17:19
  as
• 17:19
  source
• 17:20
  is
• 17:21
  everything
• 17:22
  and
• 17:24
  peace.
• 17:24
  Right.
• 17:26
  So
• 17:27
  source
• 17:28
  divides
• 17:29
  us
• 17:29
  up
• 17:29
  into
• 17:29
  little
• 17:30
  pieces
• 17:30
  of
• 17:31
  consciousness.
• 17:32
  And
• 17:32
  some
• 17:33
  of
• 17:33
  us
• 17:33
  choose
• 17:34
  to
• 17:34
  come
• 17:34
  down
• 17:35
  here
• 17:35
  now.
• 17:35
  You
• 17:36
  know,
• 17:36
  maybe
• 17:36
  we
• 17:36
  go
• 17:37
  somewhere
• 17:37
  else
• 17:37
  later,
• 17:38
  but
• 17:38
  we
• 17:38
  choose
• 17:39
  to
• 17:39
  come
• 17:39
  down
• 17:39
  here
• 17:39
  now
• 17:40
  because
• 17:40
  we
• 17:41
  want
• 17:41
  to
• 17:41
  experience
• 17:43
  things,
• 17:44
  emotions,
• 17:46
  whatever
• 17:46
  that
• 17:46
  is.
• 17:47
  And
• 17:47
  I
• 17:48
  have
• 17:48
  had
• 17:49
  plenty
• 17:49
  of
• 17:49
  trauma
• 17:50
  in
• 17:50
  my
• 17:50
  life,
• 17:52
  like
• 17:53
  pretty
• 17:53
  awful
• 17:53
  stuff,
• 17:54
  as
• 17:54
  I'm
• 17:55
  sure
• 17:55
  other
• 17:55
  listeners
• 17:56
  have.
• 17:58
  But
• 17:58
  I
• 17:58
  realize
• 17:59
  now,
• 18:00
  you
• 18:00
  know,
• 18:01
  and
• 18:01
  it
• 18:01
  took
• 18:01
  me
• 18:01
  a
• 18:02
  lot
• 18:02
  of
• 18:02
  work
• 18:02
  to
• 18:02
  get
• 18:02
  here.
• 18:02
  So
• 18:03
  I'm
• 18:03
  not
• 18:03
  saying
• 18:03
  you
• 18:03
  can
• 18:03
  just
• 18:04
  make
• 18:04
  this
• 18:04
  jump
• 18:04
  by
• 18:04
  hearing
• 18:05
  me
• 18:05
  say
• 18:05
  it,
• 18:05
  but
• 18:06
  I
• 18:06
  can
• 18:07
  honestly
• 18:07
  say
• 18:08
  I
• 18:08
  get
• 18:09
  it.
• 18:10
  Like,
• 18:10
  I
• 18:10
  get
• 18:10
  it.
• 18:10
  I
• 18:11
  understand
• 18:12
  why
• 18:13
  those
• 18:13
  things
• 18:13
  had
• 18:13
  to
• 18:14
  happen
• 18:14
  to
• 18:14
  Me
• 18:15
  or,
• 18:16
  you
• 18:16
  know,
• 18:16
  how
• 18:17
  that
• 18:17
  was
• 18:18
  manifested
• 18:19
  into
• 18:19
  my
• 18:19
  life.
• 18:19
  I
• 18:20
  get
• 18:20
  it.
• 18:20
  So,
• 18:21
  anyways,
• 18:22
  I'm
• 18:22
  sorry
• 18:22
  that
• 18:23
  happened,
• 18:23
  but
• 18:23
  I'm
• 18:24
  really
• 18:24
  happy
• 18:24
  that
• 18:24
  you're
• 18:24
  here
• 18:24
  on
• 18:24
  the
• 18:24
  other
• 18:25
  side
• 18:25
  of
• 18:25
  it.
• 18:26
  Me
• 18:26
  too.
• 18:26
  Thank
• 18:26
  you.
• 18:27
  Our
• 18:27
  mentor,
• 18:28
  Dr.
• 18:28
  Wu,
• 18:29
  used
• 18:29
  to
• 18:29
  talk
• 18:29
  about,
• 18:30
  or
• 18:30
  probably
• 18:31
  possibly
• 18:31
  still
• 18:31
  does,
• 18:32
  talked
• 18:32
  about
• 18:32
  heaven's
• 18:33
  destiny
• 18:34
  rather
• 18:35
  than
• 18:35
  fate.
• 18:36
  And.
• 18:37
  And
• 18:38
  the
• 18:38
  difference
• 18:39
  between
• 18:39
  fate
• 18:40
  and
• 18:40
  heaven's
• 18:40
  destiny
• 18:41
  is
• 18:42
  rather
• 18:42
  than
• 18:42
  fighting
• 18:43
  against
• 18:43
  what
• 18:44
  what
• 18:44
  you're
• 18:45
  calling
• 18:45
  is
• 18:45
  Source
• 18:46
  is
• 18:48
  laying
• 18:48
  out
• 18:48
  for
• 18:48
  us
• 18:49
  to
• 18:50
  be
• 18:50
  engaged
• 18:51
  with.
• 18:52
  It's
• 18:53
  fighting
• 18:53
  that.
• 18:53
  But
• 18:54
  to
• 18:55
  turn
• 18:55
  toward
• 18:55
  it
• 18:55
  and
• 18:56
  then
• 18:56
  embrace
• 18:56
  it
• 18:57
  is
• 18:58
  then
• 18:59
  following
• 19:00
  one's
• 19:00
  heaven's
• 19:00
  destiny.
• 19:01
  And
• 19:02
  everything
• 19:02
  changes
• 19:03
  from
• 19:03
  there.
• 19:03
  Is
• 19:03
  that.
• 19:04
  Is
• 19:04
  that
• 19:04
  sound
• 19:04
  right,
• 19:05
  Adam?
• 19:05
  Oh,
• 19:06
  yeah.
• 19:06
  Yeah.
• 19:07
  It's
• 19:08
  like
• 19:08
  there's
• 19:08
  certain
• 19:08
  things
• 19:09
  you
• 19:09
  can't
• 19:09
  change,
• 19:10
  and
• 19:10
  then
• 19:10
  so
• 19:10
  you're
• 19:11
  making
• 19:11
  your
• 19:11
  most
• 19:11
  out
• 19:12
  of
• 19:12
  it.
• 19:12
  And
• 19:12
  when,
• 19:13
  if
• 19:13
  you're
• 19:13
  stuck
• 19:13
  in
• 19:14
  a
• 19:14
  situation,
• 19:15
  you
• 19:15
  can
• 19:15
  still
• 19:15
  cultivate
• 19:16
  yourself,
• 19:16
  you
• 19:16
  can
• 19:16
  cultivate
• 19:17
  your
• 19:17
  relationship
• 19:18
  with
• 19:18
  who
• 19:18
  you
• 19:18
  are,
• 19:18
  your
• 19:19
  understanding,
• 19:19
  your
• 19:19
  insight.
• 19:20
  And
• 19:20
  then,
• 19:21
  you
• 19:21
  know,
• 19:21
  either
• 19:22
  you
• 19:22
  find
• 19:22
  a
• 19:22
  way
• 19:22
  to
• 19:23
  break
• 19:23
  out
• 19:23
  of
• 19:23
  it,
• 19:23
  or
• 19:23
  you're
• 19:24
  more
• 19:24
  powerful
• 19:25
  when
• 19:25
  you.
• 19:25
  When
• 19:25
  the
• 19:26
  time
• 19:26
  comes
• 19:26
  where
• 19:26
  it
• 19:26
  falls
• 19:27
  away
• 19:27
  and
• 19:27
  you're
• 19:27
  ready
• 19:27
  to
• 19:27
  go
• 19:27
  to
• 19:28
  the
• 19:28
  next
• 19:28
  stage.
• 19:28
  Really
• 19:28
  well,
• 19:29
  Yep,
• 19:30
  absolutely.
• 19:33
  So.
• 19:38
  I
• 19:38
  saw
• 19:38
  in
• 19:39
  some
• 19:39
  of
• 19:39
  your
• 19:39
  work
• 19:40
  about.
• 19:40
  You
• 19:40
  talk
• 19:41
  about
• 19:41
  being
• 19:41
  vulnerable
• 19:42
  and
• 19:42
  generous.
• 19:43
  Do
• 19:43
  you
• 19:43
  know
• 19:43
  the
• 19:43
  work
• 19:43
  of
• 19:43
  Brene
• 19:44
  Brown?
• 19:45
  Yes,
• 19:45
  I
• 19:46
  do.
• 19:46
  Oh,
• 19:46
  boy.
• 19:47
  She's
• 19:47
  just
• 19:47
  top
• 19:48
  shelf.
• 19:49
  Talk
• 19:49
  a
• 19:49
  little
• 19:49
  bit
• 19:49
  about
• 19:50
  how
• 19:50
  that
• 19:50
  work
• 19:51
  is
• 19:52
  woven
• 19:52
  into
• 19:52
  your.
• 19:54
  Into
• 19:54
  your
• 19:54
  work
• 19:54
  with
• 19:55
  clients.
• 19:56
  Well,
• 19:57
  so
• 19:57
  I
• 19:58
  definitely,
• 19:59
  you
• 19:59
  know,
• 19:59
  I.
• 20:01
  I
• 20:01
  enjoy
• 20:02
  her
• 20:02
  work.
• 20:02
  There's
• 20:03
  so
• 20:03
  many
• 20:03
  people's
• 20:03
  work
• 20:04
  I
• 20:04
  enjoy.
• 20:04
  And
• 20:04
  actually
• 20:05
  on
• 20:05
  Paramore
• 20:05
  Paradox,
• 20:06
  at
• 20:06
  the
• 20:06
  bottom,
• 20:07
  it
• 20:07
  says
• 20:07
  these
• 20:08
  are
• 20:08
  some
• 20:08
  of
• 20:08
  the,
• 20:10
  you
• 20:10
  know,
• 20:11
  wise
• 20:11
  souls
• 20:12
  that
• 20:12
  have
• 20:12
  influenced,
• 20:13
  you
• 20:13
  know,
• 20:13
  this.
• 20:14
  This
• 20:14
  thing.
• 20:15
  So
• 20:15
  I.
• 20:16
  I
• 20:16
  have
• 20:17
  to
• 20:17
  speak
• 20:17
  about
• 20:17
  it
• 20:17
  more
• 20:18
  in
• 20:19
  the
• 20:19
  big
• 20:19
  picture
• 20:20
  of
• 20:21
  the
• 20:21
  learnings
• 20:22
  that
• 20:22
  I've
• 20:22
  gathered
• 20:23
  from,
• 20:23
  from
• 20:24
  a
• 20:24
  lot
• 20:24
  of
• 20:24
  people
• 20:25
  and
• 20:25
  myself.
• 20:26
  So
• 20:26
  for
• 20:26
  me
• 20:27
  about
• 20:27
  being
• 20:28
  authentic
• 20:29
  and
• 20:29
  vulnerable,
• 20:32
  life
• 20:33
  is
• 20:33
  really
• 20:34
  about
• 20:35
  relationships.
• 20:36
  It's
• 20:36
  about
• 20:37
  relation
• 20:37
  to
• 20:37
  oneself
• 20:38
  and
• 20:38
  relationship
• 20:39
  to
• 20:39
  others.
• 20:39
  And
• 20:40
  our
• 20:40
  relationships
• 20:41
  with
• 20:41
  others
• 20:42
  help
• 20:43
  mirror
• 20:44
  things
• 20:44
  to
• 20:45
  us
• 20:45
  and
• 20:45
  also
• 20:45
  help
• 20:46
  us
• 20:46
  have
• 20:46
  those
• 20:46
  emotions
• 20:47
  that
• 20:47
  Source
• 20:48
  wants
• 20:48
  us
• 20:48
  to
• 20:48
  have.
• 20:49
  Right.
• 20:49
  Like,
• 20:49
  it's
• 20:50
  pretty
• 20:50
  hard
• 20:51
  for
• 20:51
  us
• 20:51
  to
• 20:51
  have
• 20:52
  emotions
• 20:53
  without
• 20:54
  interacting
• 20:55
  with
• 20:55
  somebody
• 20:55
  else.
• 20:57
  So
• 20:58
  the
• 20:59
  idea
• 20:59
  of
• 20:59
  authenticity
• 21:00
  and
• 21:01
  vulnerability
• 21:02
  to
• 21:02
  me
• 21:03
  that
• 21:03
  I've
• 21:03
  gotten
• 21:04
  from
• 21:04
  her
• 21:04
  work
• 21:05
  as
• 21:05
  well
• 21:05
  as
• 21:05
  other
• 21:05
  people's
• 21:06
  work
• 21:07
  is
• 21:08
  that
• 21:10
  knowing
• 21:11
  who
• 21:11
  I
• 21:11
  am
• 21:12
  truly
• 21:13
  at
• 21:13
  my
• 21:13
  core
• 21:14
  allows
• 21:15
  me
• 21:16
  to.
• 21:16
  To
• 21:17
  make
• 21:18
  decisions
• 21:19
  that
• 21:19
  are
• 21:19
  in
• 21:20
  alignment
• 21:20
  with
• 21:20
  myself
• 21:22
  and
• 21:23
  be
• 21:24
  myself
• 21:25
  without
• 21:26
  the
• 21:26
  need
• 21:27
  of,
• 21:29
  call
• 21:29
  it
• 21:29
  acceptance.
• 21:30
  Now,
• 21:31
  that
• 21:31
  being
• 21:31
  said,
• 21:32
  that
• 21:32
  doesn't
• 21:32
  mean
• 21:33
  that
• 21:33
  I
• 21:33
  don't
• 21:33
  ever
• 21:34
  put
• 21:34
  on
• 21:34
  A
• 21:35
  mask.
• 21:35
  But
• 21:36
  I'm
• 21:36
  aware
• 21:37
  and
• 21:37
  conscious
• 21:38
  when
• 21:39
  I
• 21:39
  put
• 21:39
  on
• 21:39
  the
• 21:39
  mask.
• 21:40
  So
• 21:41
  if
• 21:41
  I'm
• 21:42
  going
• 21:43
  to
• 21:43
  a
• 21:44
  business
• 21:44
  meeting
• 21:45
  or
• 21:45
  I'm
• 21:46
  going
• 21:46
  to
• 21:46
  do
• 21:47
  a
• 21:47
  lecture
• 21:48
  to
• 21:48
  a
• 21:48
  corporation,
• 21:49
  I'm
• 21:49
  not
• 21:50
  going
• 21:50
  to
• 21:50
  go
• 21:50
  in
• 21:50
  my
• 21:50
  hippie
• 21:51
  clothes.
• 21:51
  I
• 21:51
  am
• 21:51
  a
• 21:52
  bit
• 21:52
  of
• 21:52
  a
• 21:52
  hippie.
• 21:52
  Those
• 21:52
  of
• 21:53
  you
• 21:53
  who
• 21:53
  aren't,
• 21:54
  aren't
• 21:54
  watching.
• 21:55
  I
• 21:55
  have
• 21:55
  this
• 21:55
  big
• 21:56
  Indian
• 21:56
  tapestry
• 21:57
  behind
• 21:57
  me.
• 21:57
  So,
• 21:58
  you
• 21:58
  know,
• 21:58
  I'm
• 21:58
  not
• 21:58
  going
• 21:59
  to
• 21:59
  wear
• 21:59
  my
• 21:59
  hippie
• 21:59
  clothes.
• 22:00
  I'm
• 22:00
  going
• 22:00
  to
• 22:00
  dress
• 22:00
  nice.
• 22:01
  And
• 22:01
  that
• 22:01
  is
• 22:01
  a
• 22:01
  bit
• 22:01
  of
• 22:01
  a
• 22:02
  mess
• 22:02
  because
• 22:02
  it's
• 22:02
  not
• 22:02
  really
• 22:03
  who
• 22:03
  I
• 22:03
  am.
• 22:03
  Right.
• 22:04
  But
• 22:05
  I
• 22:05
  know
• 22:06
  that
• 22:06
  I'm
• 22:06
  doing
• 22:06
  that,
• 22:07
  and
• 22:08
  it's
• 22:08
  a
• 22:08
  conscious
• 22:08
  thing.
• 22:09
  Yes.
• 22:09
  And
• 22:10
  so
• 22:10
  I'm
• 22:10
  still
• 22:10
  authentic.
• 22:11
  Now,
• 22:12
  if
• 22:12
  somebody
• 22:12
  asked
• 22:13
  me
• 22:13
  to
• 22:13
  do
• 22:14
  something
• 22:14
  that
• 22:14
  was
• 22:15
  not
• 22:15
  in
• 22:15
  alignment
• 22:16
  with
• 22:16
  my
• 22:16
  truth,
• 22:17
  I
• 22:17
  simply
• 22:17
  wouldn't
• 22:18
  do
• 22:18
  it.
• 22:18
  You
• 22:18
  know,
• 22:19
  I
• 22:19
  may
• 22:19
  not
• 22:20
  make
• 22:20
  a.
• 22:21
  I
• 22:21
  wouldn't
• 22:22
  not.
• 22:22
  May
• 22:22
  not.
• 22:22
  I
• 22:23
  wouldn't
• 22:23
  make
• 22:23
  a
• 22:23
  scene
• 22:23
  about
• 22:24
  it.
• 22:24
  So,
• 22:24
  for
• 22:24
  example,
• 22:25
  one
• 22:26
  of
• 22:26
  my,
• 22:26
  like,
• 22:27
  values
• 22:27
  that
• 22:27
  I've
• 22:28
  come
• 22:28
  to
• 22:28
  realize
• 22:28
  is
• 22:29
  super
• 22:29
  important
• 22:29
  to
• 22:30
  me
• 22:30
  is
• 22:31
  to
• 22:31
  honor
• 22:32
  living
• 22:33
  things.
• 22:34
  So
• 22:34
  it
• 22:34
  started
• 22:35
  off
• 22:35
  as
• 22:35
  animals
• 22:36
  like
• 22:36
  to
• 22:36
  only
• 22:37
  eat
• 22:37
  happy
• 22:37
  animals.
• 22:38
  You
• 22:38
  know,
• 22:38
  animals
• 22:38
  that
• 22:39
  have
• 22:39
  been
• 22:39
  humanely
• 22:40
  treated
• 22:41
  during
• 22:41
  their
• 22:42
  life
• 22:42
  and
• 22:42
  humanely
• 22:43
  killed
• 22:43
  and
• 22:43
  so
• 22:44
  forth.
• 22:44
  Then
• 22:44
  I
• 22:45
  started
• 22:45
  connecting
• 22:45
  with
• 22:46
  plants,
• 22:46
  and
• 22:46
  I
• 22:46
  realized,
• 22:47
  oh,
• 22:47
  plants
• 22:47
  kind
• 22:47
  of.
• 22:48
  Of
• 22:48
  have
• 22:48
  consciousness,
• 22:49
  too.
• 22:50
  And
• 22:50
  so
• 22:51
  now
• 22:51
  my
• 22:52
  practice
• 22:52
  is
• 22:52
  more
• 22:52
  around,
• 22:53
  you
• 22:53
  know,
• 22:54
  recognizing
• 22:54
  and
• 22:54
  honoring
• 22:55
  all
• 22:55
  of
• 22:56
  that.
• 22:57
  That
• 22:57
  being
• 22:57
  said,
• 22:58
  if
• 22:58
  I
• 22:58
  go
• 22:59
  to
• 22:59
  somebody's
• 22:59
  house
• 22:59
  and
• 23:00
  they've
• 23:00
  prepared
• 23:00
  a
• 23:01
  beautiful
• 23:01
  meal
• 23:01
  to
• 23:02
  me,
• 23:02
  I
• 23:02
  don't
• 23:03
  say,
• 23:04
  is
• 23:04
  this
• 23:04
  happy
• 23:05
  meat?
• 23:05
  Was
• 23:05
  it
• 23:05
  humanely
• 23:06
  treated?
• 23:06
  Because
• 23:06
  if
• 23:07
  it's
• 23:07
  not
• 23:07
  humanely
• 23:07
  treated,
• 23:08
  I'm
• 23:08
  not
• 23:08
  going
• 23:08
  to
• 23:09
  eat
• 23:09
  it.
• 23:09
  So
• 23:10
  instead,
• 23:10
  in
• 23:10
  my
• 23:11
  head,
• 23:11
  privately,
• 23:12
  quietly,
• 23:13
  I
• 23:13
  will
• 23:13
  bless
• 23:14
  the
• 23:14
  animal,
• 23:15
  thank
• 23:15
  the
• 23:15
  animal
• 23:16
  for
• 23:16
  giving
• 23:16
  me
• 23:17
  its
• 23:17
  flesh
• 23:18
  that
• 23:18
  can
• 23:18
  nourish
• 23:19
  me
• 23:19
  and
• 23:19
  make
• 23:19
  me
• 23:19
  feel
• 23:19
  good.
• 23:20
  I
• 23:20
  don't
• 23:21
  make
• 23:21
  a
• 23:21
  scene.
• 23:22
  I
• 23:22
  don't
• 23:22
  tell
• 23:22
  other
• 23:23
  people.
• 23:24
  So
• 23:24
  is
• 23:24
  that
• 23:24
  a
• 23:25
  mask?
• 23:25
  Well,
• 23:25
  kind
• 23:26
  of,
• 23:26
  because,
• 23:26
  you
• 23:27
  know,
• 23:27
  I'm
• 23:27
  not
• 23:27
  dem.
• 23:28
  I'm
• 23:28
  not
• 23:28
  being,
• 23:29
  you
• 23:29
  know,
• 23:29
  authentic
• 23:30
  outwards,
• 23:31
  but
• 23:31
  I
• 23:31
  am
• 23:31
  being
• 23:31
  authentic
• 23:32
  inwards,
• 23:33
  you
• 23:33
  know,
• 23:33
  and
• 23:33
  that's
• 23:34
  really
• 23:34
  what
• 23:34
  matters,
• 23:35
  is
• 23:35
  to
• 23:35
  have
• 23:35
  that
• 23:36
  kind
• 23:36
  of
• 23:36
  conscious
• 23:37
  intention
• 23:38
  and
• 23:38
  awareness.
• 23:39
  Right.
• 23:40
  You
• 23:40
  know.
• 23:40
  You
• 23:41
  know
• 23:41
  what
• 23:41
  I
• 23:41
  mean
• 23:41
  by
• 23:41
  animism?
• 23:43
  No.
• 23:44
  It's
• 23:44
  like
• 23:45
  having
• 23:45
  the
• 23:45
  idea
• 23:46
  that
• 23:46
  everything
• 23:46
  is
• 23:46
  conscious.
• 23:47
  Yes.
• 23:48
  And
• 23:48
  there's
• 23:49
  an
• 23:49
  astrologer
• 23:49
  that's
• 23:50
  on
• 23:50
  KPFA
• 23:50
  out
• 23:51
  here
• 23:51
  in
• 23:52
  the
• 23:52
  Bay
• 23:52
  Area,
• 23:52
  Caroline
• 23:53
  Casey,
• 23:53
  and
• 23:53
  she
• 23:54
  said
• 23:54
  animism
• 23:55
  is
• 23:55
  more
• 23:55
  than
• 23:56
  a
• 23:56
  belief.
• 23:56
  It's
• 23:56
  just
• 23:56
  good
• 23:57
  manners.
• 23:58
  It's
• 23:58
  just
• 23:58
  good
• 23:59
  manners.
• 23:59
  Yeah.
• 24:00
  Yeah.
• 24:01
  So,
• 24:01
  yeah.
• 24:02
  Any.
• 24:02
  Anyway.
• 24:03
  Any
• 24:03
  thoughts,
• 24:04
  Adam?
• 24:05
  Well,
• 24:05
  the
• 24:05
  last
• 24:05
  thing
• 24:06
  is
• 24:06
  I
• 24:06
  appreciate
• 24:06
  how
• 24:07
  you
• 24:07
  mentioned
• 24:07
  that
• 24:09
  is
• 24:09
  very
• 24:09
  personal
• 24:09
  and
• 24:10
  internal.
• 24:11
  Right.
• 24:11
  And
• 24:12
  you
• 24:12
  have
• 24:12
  your
• 24:13
  values,
• 24:13
  your
• 24:13
  integrity.
• 24:14
  And,
• 24:15
  you
• 24:15
  know,
• 24:15
  so
• 24:16
  often
• 24:16
  in
• 24:17
  our
• 24:17
  culture,
• 24:17
  it's
• 24:17
  like
• 24:17
  a
• 24:18
  sales
• 24:18
  culture
• 24:19
  or
• 24:19
  evangelical
• 24:20
  culture,
• 24:20
  we're
• 24:20
  always
• 24:20
  pushing
• 24:21
  something
• 24:21
  on
• 24:21
  someone
• 24:21
  else.
• 24:22
  Like
• 24:23
  Jesus
• 24:23
  said
• 24:23
  in
• 24:24
  the
• 24:24
  Bible,
• 24:24
  like,
• 24:24
  don't
• 24:25
  pray
• 24:25
  like
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  hypocrites
• 24:26
  out
• 24:26
  in
• 24:26
  the
• 24:26
  street.
• 24:27
  You
• 24:27
  go
• 24:27
  into
• 24:27
  your
• 24:28
  back
• 24:28
  room,
• 24:28
  like
• 24:29
  into
• 24:29
  your
• 24:29
  own
• 24:29
  closet,
• 24:30
  and
• 24:30
  that's
• 24:30
  the
• 24:30
  way
• 24:30
  you
• 24:31
  pray.
• 24:31
  And
• 24:31
  so
• 24:32
  it
• 24:32
  reminds
• 24:32
  me
• 24:32
  of
• 24:32
  that
• 24:32
  a
• 24:32
  lot
• 24:33
  where,
• 24:34
  you
• 24:34
  know,
• 24:34
  it's.
• 24:34
  It's
• 24:35
  so
• 24:35
  personal
• 24:35
  and
• 24:36
  so
• 24:36
  deeply,
• 24:37
  you
• 24:37
  know,
• 24:38
  private.
• 24:39
  Private.
• 24:39
  I
• 24:39
  think
• 24:40
  that
• 24:40
  that's.
• 24:40
  I
• 24:40
  really
• 24:41
  appreciate
• 24:41
  about
• 24:41
  what
• 24:41
  you're
• 24:42
  saying
• 24:42
  there
• 24:43
  that
• 24:43
  I
• 24:43
  just
• 24:43
  wanted
• 24:44
  to
• 24:44
  say
• 24:44
  that.
• 24:45
  Yeah,
• 24:46
  yeah,
• 24:46
  that's
• 24:47
  right.
• 24:47
  So.
• 24:48
  Well,
• 24:49
  we're
• 24:49
  coming
• 24:49
  up
• 24:49
  on
• 24:50
  another
• 24:50
  break
• 24:50
  here,
• 24:52
  and
• 24:53
  you
• 24:53
  had
• 24:53
  said,
• 24:54
  Kristen,
• 24:54
  that
• 24:55
  you
• 24:55
  like
• 24:55
  to
• 24:55
  have
• 24:55
  a
• 24:56
  conversation
• 24:56
  with
• 24:56
  people.
• 24:57
  I
• 24:57
  do.
• 24:59
  It's
• 24:59
  a
• 24:59
  opportunity
• 25:00
  to
• 25:00
  have
• 25:01
  a
• 25:01
  free
• 25:01
  chat
• 25:01
  like
• 25:02
  this
• 25:02
  about,
• 25:03
  you
• 25:03
  know,
• 25:03
  whatever
• 25:03
  it
• 25:03
  is
• 25:04
  that
• 25:04
  will
• 25:04
  help
• 25:04
  put
• 25:04
  you
• 25:05
  on
• 25:05
  your
• 25:05
  path
• 25:05
  towards
• 25:06
  your
• 25:06
  truth.
• 25:07
  It
• 25:07
  is
• 25:09
  u
• 25:09
  2.0.
• 25:10
  So
• 25:10
  y
• 25:11
  o
• 25:11
  u
• 25:11
  the
• 25:11
  number
• 25:12
  two,
• 25:12
  the
• 25:12
  word
• 25:12
  point
• 25:13
  the
• 25:13
  number
• 25:13
  zero
• 25:14
  dot
• 25:14
  com
• 25:15
  and
• 25:15
  you'll
• 25:16
  see
• 25:16
  a
• 25:16
  little
• 25:16
  video
• 25:16
  of
• 25:16
  me
• 25:17
  and
• 25:17
  an
• 25:17
  invitation
• 25:18
  to
• 25:18
  chat.
• 25:19
  Great.
• 25:19
  All
• 25:20
  right,
• 25:20
  well,
• 25:20
  we're
• 25:20
  going
• 25:20
  to
• 25:21
  take
• 25:21
  a
• 25:21
  short
• 25:21
  break
• 25:21
  and
• 25:21
  be
• 25:22
  right
• 25:22
  back,
• 25:22
  so
• 25:22
  stay
• 25:23
  tuned.