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Stephen Bishop, Marsau and LaTisha Scott, Mark Linen, The Black Man Project & TS Madison · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: and so my man in a long time. I think
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  Speaker 1: last to myself him while it was up in uh
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  Speaker 1: New York City's Circle of Sisters, I was hanging out
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  Speaker 1: with when you were Cat Robinson and he may not remember,
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  Speaker 1: but I got one of them elephant memories. I remember
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  Speaker 1: everybody I meet because his brother was very impressive. I've
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  Speaker 1: always followed his career. He started such movie projects as
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  Speaker 1: a moneyball, of course, you know, being Mary Jane, That's
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  Speaker 1: when you know he was just the bomb on that.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, everything he does is fantastic TV One's Girlfriends
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  Speaker 1: get Away to uh Think Like a Man Too. That
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  Speaker 1: was my project. Executive produced that project. So I know
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  Speaker 1: him from Their television appearances include USA Networks, Row Pains,
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  Speaker 1: ABC's Grades, Natomy, Lost Brothers Sisters, CBS, The Mentalist City,
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  Speaker 1: c W is the Game Heart of Dixie. But what
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  Speaker 1: he's on here to talk about today is the movie
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  Speaker 1: I just saw this week in Fantastic called Fatal Affair
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  Speaker 1: with Neil Long on my apps. He plays her husband Marcus.
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  Speaker 1: Please working to money make a conversation long time, no
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  Speaker 1: see Mrs Stephen Bishop, how you doing brother. Hey, man, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: And foremost, I gotta tell you that intro, not the
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  Speaker 1: intro of me, which was sparkling, thank you very much
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  Speaker 1: for that, but your intro to the show, that thing
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  Speaker 1: is smooth. Norman out there and now that's my boy,
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  Speaker 1: Stephen A smith Man. Really yeah, Man, spread my wings
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  Speaker 1: out there, man, Stephen, you know I got a little
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  Speaker 1: I got a little blast out there. Man. Uh, you
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  Speaker 1: know my life is good Stephen an indoor void, Yes, absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, So how's everything been going? MSUs the last
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  Speaker 1: so you have in New York. I've been watching your TV,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, life has been good for you. Huh yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: I can't you know, I can't complained a lot. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the works been been really good. Uh, family has been good.
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  Speaker 1: Everything's been going well up until this pandemic it and
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  Speaker 1: you know that put the brakes on a lot. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everybody staying healthy and doing what we came
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  Speaker 1: to to be, diggering about wearing a mask when we
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  Speaker 1: go out and in the social distance and all that.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, man, I thinks since I saw your last thing,
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  Speaker 1: you've been really really good, and uh I'm honestly happy
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  Speaker 1: to be there. So now the movie Fatal a fair
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  Speaker 1: that's that. That's your start in along with Nia and
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  Speaker 1: oh my epps. So good good people, good actors, good
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  Speaker 1: talent around you. Now, when was this movie shot? Where
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  Speaker 1: where was the shot? They win? Oh, it was shot
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  Speaker 1: in Malibus? Um we we shot is the bulk of
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  Speaker 1: it in Malibu and had a fantastic house and saw
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  Speaker 1: the movies that you saw as Uh, it was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: And to be able to have that as my office
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  Speaker 1: every day for a few weeks. Uh second and none
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  Speaker 1: the better locations I've done to Uh did a great
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  Speaker 1: job to find and not trump locations manager. Well, it's awesome.
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  Speaker 1: So when when you get a script like this, you
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  Speaker 1: know it's a fatal attraction type deal woman of man
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  Speaker 1: getting hoo good the other and then all of a
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  Speaker 1: sudden one doesn't want to release in the relationship. When
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  Speaker 1: when you get a script like this, how do you
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  Speaker 1: approach it? Stephen uh in what regards in regards to
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  Speaker 1: your character, Because in your character, your character is injured
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  Speaker 1: I would like to say injured, and then he's trying
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  Speaker 1: to recover physically and then so it's like a communication issue.
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  Speaker 1: I like to believe that really lead to this kind
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  Speaker 1: of disconnect between Nia's character, which plays she plays your wife.
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  Speaker 1: She's a hard worker, and then you kind of like
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  Speaker 1: a recovery mode because you're still in rehabilitation, so that intimacy,
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  Speaker 1: intimacy really is lost there for a period. Am I
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  Speaker 1: am I writing what I'm saying? Uh? Yeah, the that's
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  Speaker 1: in communication is a big part of that. But as
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  Speaker 1: far as your question of how I approached it, Um,
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  Speaker 1: I've been injured before. I had a surgery. I had
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  Speaker 1: a knee surgery when I was playing, uh baseball, and
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  Speaker 1: so I was able to draw from that experience what
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  Speaker 1: it's like to be, you know, plaid up and not
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  Speaker 1: being able to do what you long we used doing
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  Speaker 1: and what you love. Uh. So I was able to
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  Speaker 1: draw from that experience, and then with the character himself,
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  Speaker 1: I was able to draw from my experience growing up
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  Speaker 1: in the Bay Area. There's a lot of the film
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  Speaker 1: is set in the Bay Area, and I grew up there,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, there was a lot of sensibilities and
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  Speaker 1: even down to the layering of the clothing that I
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  Speaker 1: was able to draw from my memories and and my
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  Speaker 1: experience living up there and put myself into the mindset
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  Speaker 1: of somebody up, they're successful and just having to uh
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  Speaker 1: come back from an injury. I was where to combine
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  Speaker 1: those two things to create market right, right, because when
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  Speaker 1: I was looking at the movie and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: well produced, well crafted, well acted movie. And if they
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  Speaker 1: think about Netflix, is that that's the next is on
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  Speaker 1: a different game right now for streaming and uh premier movies.
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  Speaker 1: And and if I'm not if I'm not mistaken, because
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  Speaker 1: you can always correct me, it's like it's like their
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  Speaker 1: premier in these movies, and like over a hundred countries
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  Speaker 1: correct with Netflix premiers a movie. Correct from what I gathered,
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  Speaker 1: the hundred and ninety countries, Yeah, a hundred or something
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  Speaker 1: like a hundred and eighty three million subscriber in a
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  Speaker 1: hundred and ninety countries. And the reason I bring that
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  Speaker 1: up because the reason I bring that up because let's
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  Speaker 1: let's be just this is us talking in the business
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  Speaker 1: how they've been treating black movies, okay, and of movies
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  Speaker 1: with black leads, you know, domestically their premiere, but they
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  Speaker 1: never saw an audience internationally and so so we never
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  Speaker 1: had the benefit of doing movies. And when I did
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  Speaker 1: think like a man, I think like a man too,
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  Speaker 1: we premier domestically, even though we made eighty million dollars. Domestically,
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  Speaker 1: we may have went to England, May a little bit
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  Speaker 1: in Caribbean and then uh, then in Africa. That was it.
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  Speaker 1: And to see that now that black talent is now
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  Speaker 1: being exposed in over a hundred and ainty countries, now
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  Speaker 1: that is a that's an amazing opportunity that I feel
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  Speaker 1: that Netflix is providing for African American talent. Absolutely, that's
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the you're dead on the nail with the uh,
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  Speaker 1: the normal lack of international representation in our film. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for some reason, they don't films don't do
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  Speaker 1: well overseasons, so they don't they don't buy them. But
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  Speaker 1: I think that might have a lot to do with
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  Speaker 1: the same reasons. And we weren't getting a lot of
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  Speaker 1: opportunities domestically for a while. Is people just were unfamiliar
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  Speaker 1: with the talent and the you know, the assets that
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  Speaker 1: we bring to the table. So I think that what
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  Speaker 1: Netflix is doing is pro writing a platform for us
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  Speaker 1: to to showcase our abilities on the international stage, and
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  Speaker 1: that opens people's minds and opens people's eyes to what
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  Speaker 1: they've been missing. And now you know, then later down
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  Speaker 1: the road if if the theatrical model comes back all
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  Speaker 1: the way, um, it will open more doors I think
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  Speaker 1: for us to be able to pre sell internationally and
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  Speaker 1: even you know, sell internationally after the fact. But I
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  Speaker 1: think that Netflix is doing a fantastic job of taking
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  Speaker 1: movies immediately global and giving everybody an opportunity to see
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  Speaker 1: what's what's all out there. And that's that's what I love.
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  Speaker 1: I love that that because that's you know, and and
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  Speaker 1: and if I've been doing I've been in entertainment, writing
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  Speaker 1: sitcoms and writing reality shows and dramas to ninety two
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  Speaker 1: in this business. And so I've said, I've done black
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  Speaker 1: sitcoms and just been trapped on the w B format
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  Speaker 1: or up n per format or c W format, and
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  Speaker 1: they called us black shows. And that's that's it. And
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  Speaker 1: and and I when I see a movie like this,
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  Speaker 1: this is entertainment, Stephen, this is entertainment. It's relatable to everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody has emotional issues, everybody has a child's in college,
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  Speaker 1: everybody has each crazy people out there who don't want
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  Speaker 1: that you want to, don't want to be bothered with.
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  Speaker 1: I just felt it was a universal movie. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: when you took on the script. That was a whole
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  Speaker 1: perspective you had about failure attraction. It's failure failure affairs.
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  Speaker 1: Well correct, Yeah, I did. I saw a lot for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the main thing that attracted me was being
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  Speaker 1: able to work with Nia and omar Um, you know,
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  Speaker 1: being a fan of both of theirs and being uh
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  Speaker 1: ends with both of them outside of the business. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: It was just a great opportunity. But when I got
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  Speaker 1: to read the script and and see what was happening,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, a lot, there's a lot of relatable
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  Speaker 1: subject matter here. I think a lot of people will
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  Speaker 1: be able to you know, this will resonate with a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people because a lot, like you said, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people go through these same life stories, and
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people on unfortunately go through this specific
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  Speaker 1: life story and so they you know, from one side
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  Speaker 1: or the other, they'll be able to relate. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty relatable, uh in the premise, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, hopefully it's not too relatable in the uh
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  Speaker 1: the plot. You know, well, I think that when you're
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  Speaker 1: looking at now now you got physical in the end, okay,
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  Speaker 1: got physical in the with the with I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: give away the storyline, But was it any additional training
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  Speaker 1: and he started training involved what you uh with the
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  Speaker 1: physicality near the end of the movie. Uh, No, No,
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  Speaker 1: I I had to do my normal training, which was
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  Speaker 1: weightlifting and and uh you know, proper diet and all
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  Speaker 1: that to get ready for his shoot because you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's some some shirtless stuff in there, and I always
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  Speaker 1: like to be, you know, as sharp as I can
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  Speaker 1: be in that in that regard. But as far as
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  Speaker 1: the theistality at the role, No, I didn't have to
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  Speaker 1: do any extra training. You know, I've done training in
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  Speaker 1: the past with fighting and that kind of stuff, so
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm pretty pretty well versed in in that
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  Speaker 1: that facet of it. But you know I did have
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  Speaker 1: to go and you know, we had to rehearse the
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  Speaker 1: actual scene that we had. We had the choreograph, we
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  Speaker 1: had a choreogram. Um you know, so, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: other than the choreograph, the choreography, UH, wasn't anything extra
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  Speaker 1: that I had to do. I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I brought the uh skill sets to the table with me. Hello,
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  Speaker 1: brought the skill sets to the table. I love that.
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  Speaker 1: So and and when you when you say being in
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity. You're working when you're long All my Epps,
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  Speaker 1: and she plays your your your wife. And then you
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  Speaker 1: have a daughter that comes home from college or but
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  Speaker 1: she's about to end her first year of college, right,
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  Speaker 1: but she's actually there, and she's coming home for she's
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  Speaker 1: coming home for a break and uh, and and dealing
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  Speaker 1: with your career and so and this is what I
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  Speaker 1: want to get a little detail about it, because I
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  Speaker 1: always try to look at movies a little bit deeper
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  Speaker 1: than most people see it, because you're trying to find
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  Speaker 1: your footing again in your career. And then she's like
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  Speaker 1: she's like moving on and establishing her career in her
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  Speaker 1: own office. And so because I'm trying to get the
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  Speaker 1: dynamics of why that could possibly happen in a relationship
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  Speaker 1: like that, Why would she even step out for that
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  Speaker 1: little half a minute in your mind in the script,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think led to that with the relationship
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  Speaker 1: she kind of had with All my ELPs. Well, there was,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, the injury brought a lot into into play.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're laid up, you can't move you it
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  Speaker 1: was like six months, right, you know, you're yeah, yeah, um,
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  Speaker 1: And there's also uh, Meds involved that if you remember,
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  Speaker 1: uh I thought, you know, if they actually left this
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  Speaker 1: part in the in them or not, I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: But there when we were shooting, there as a part
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  Speaker 1: where it says the meds that put me in a
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  Speaker 1: place where I wasn't really able to fulfill my husbandly duties,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I wasn't, you know, I wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it if it made the cut
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  Speaker 1: or not. I don't remember that line. I just but
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  Speaker 1: I can understand that it was in the scene. I
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  Speaker 1: I said it in the scene when I was playing
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  Speaker 1: golf with homeworks character right. They may have cut that,
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  Speaker 1: they may have cut that out. But regardless, what I
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  Speaker 1: think what led to it was, you know, the injury
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  Speaker 1: being incapacitated, the med's you know, bringing you know, the
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  Speaker 1: beato down and and the you know, just the interest
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  Speaker 1: and you know, she just was feeling uh neglected, and
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  Speaker 1: you know when she ran into a guy that she
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  Speaker 1: knew and he expressed, you know, such strong interest and
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  Speaker 1: they you know, they got a couple of drinks in them,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, I think her guard just got let down,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that, but I think what led to
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  Speaker 1: it was just the you know, the mundane married life.
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  Speaker 1: They you know, they have a nineteen year old so
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  Speaker 1: they obviously have been together for twenty years and more.
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  Speaker 1: And and you know, a lot of times that's what happens.
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  Speaker 1: It's just they becomes routine and uh. People look for,
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  Speaker 1: you know, an extra spark and when they find it,
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  Speaker 1: it can sometimes lead to you know, I think that
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  Speaker 1: a they shouldn't do well. Definitely, um in this movie
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  Speaker 1: are really UM it was good. I enjoyed it. I
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  Speaker 1: really really enjoyed the enjoyed the acting, and enjoyed the
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  Speaker 1: relationship that you know I can understand. Like like you said,
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Bishop, I'm talking to Stephen Bishon is one of
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  Speaker 1: the stars of Fatal Affair. He's up July sixteen, Netflix
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  Speaker 1: new global release of Fatal Affair. Uh, a pair of
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  Speaker 1: released in over a hundred and eighty countries worldwide. That's
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  Speaker 1: how Netflix does it for all their movies. When I
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  Speaker 1: when I look at a movie like this, and it's
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  Speaker 1: always about relatability, is all about did they pull you
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  Speaker 1: in that I related? Could I did I understand that
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  Speaker 1: I have sympathy for your character and understanding that you
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  Speaker 1: were recovering from a physical injury that I understand where
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  Speaker 1: she came from. But she did pull back, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she didn't she didn't fully commit. And so even though
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  Speaker 1: that was liquor involved and all that, so I was
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  Speaker 1: still I felt, I felt her character was still saved.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought the script writing and the director was fantastic. Overall.
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  Speaker 1: Your thoughts on the movie as we wrapped his up? Uh, Stephen,
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Peter Sullivan are director did a fantastic job.
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  Speaker 1: I thought the writing was you know, was was well executed,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought the acting was was was really well
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  Speaker 1: done as well. Mi A. It's such a professional. I
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  Speaker 1: did a lot of my my work with her, I
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  Speaker 1: had a little bit with all the bulk of my
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  Speaker 1: work with with Mea, and it was such it was
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  Speaker 1: such a pleasure to work with her every day. And she,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she's such a nice woman and such a professional,
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  Speaker 1: very prepared. Um you know, she it just was she's
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  Speaker 1: an actor's actor, you know what I mean. She's just
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  Speaker 1: somebody that you know, it was enjoy going to work
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  Speaker 1: with every day. Um. So I thought, I thought our
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  Speaker 1: whole team did a really good job. We had some
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  Speaker 1: you know, some late nights and some some long shooting
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  Speaker 1: shooting gangs for we got it done. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: our our team, our team, you know, put it together
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  Speaker 1: and and it really brought it home. So I think
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  Speaker 1: everybody's gonna like it. I hope everyone does. I like it.
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  Speaker 1: I loved it. I'm proud of it, and I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: you get her show. I'm glad you did. Um uh.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, once again, I just gotta you know,
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  Speaker 1: seeing the praises of me along who was actually a
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  Speaker 1: producer on this one as well, and so she had
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for doing good? How are you today? I'm
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  Speaker 1: really doing good? And you know the thing about reality shows,
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  Speaker 1: you know, first of all, I'm gonna ask you and
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  Speaker 1: you can ask you can ask it together separately. Why
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  Speaker 1: are you guys doing this show? Um? Hey, well hey,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on? Man? Thanks for having us know on this.
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  Speaker 1: To mar So, um, I think when we first we're
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: we're business people. We have a passion for business. Afterlut
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  Speaker 1: we also have a passion for the development of uh
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  Speaker 1: primarily African American neighborhood that seems to get gotten passed
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  Speaker 1: over by the economic booms that happened in cities often times.
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  Speaker 1: And know, we were a goodness opportunity, UH to go
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  Speaker 1: on and really to discuss real people, to discuss real issues,
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  Speaker 1: but more importantly for us to discuss business and how
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  Speaker 1: we can all get together, come back, come come back
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: together and kind of make a a platform for other
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  Speaker 1: middle class and upper upper uh class, you know, African
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  Speaker 1: Americans to kind of we migrate back to the hood
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  Speaker 1: and kind of you know, tolding the stull that kind
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  Speaker 1: of raised us and and hopefully we can build it
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and the power. So we were on a TV show,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, we really want to show focus on
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: that aspect of business and the construction and the UH
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: together as in an empowerment. Yeah. Carlos King, that's a
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: that's the creative producer to the show. I know him.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: That's a good friend of mine. And so yeah, when
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I'm watching this show, that the reason I asked because
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: maybe it's just edited, but it seems like a lot
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: of times some of the things that they've show kind
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: of caught you guys off guard. I you didn't know
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: it's going in that direction the T shirt. Can you
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: respond to that? Because I just really getting a sense
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: of you know, why are you doing the show? I
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: love the characters. I love your mama by the way,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I love your dad. I know what I mean. You know,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I know small so frat Bequie, I love her. I
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: love her all right, so you just stop tripping, dog,
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: you need to stop tripping George. Okay, okay. So for me,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: it was like you know the reality TV where being
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: ex closed on the show. Know, for me, I never
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: really fell about being on the reality TV right but
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: when we was approached to the show about the Timback
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: group and about rule estate development, was like, okay, yes
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: we could do that. We can real estate, so why
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: not do on this show. There'll be great for what
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: we're trying to do within the community. Um. So yeah,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that's how it came apart in a court. My mom
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: she is this, she was she stuff gonna say. She
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: was just ready right right now. I never MEAs was
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: was it was the mom part of the planning for
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the series or just happening to be developed as a
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: series went along, your mom moving into the house. It
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: just happens. It just happened. To be developed. So on
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: the show, you see me in my transition stage for
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: me to stay at home mom to get it into
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: commercial rule estate. So you had a plan though, according
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to mam, so y'all had a plan though you you
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you just the five year plan though, the five year plan,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: right mare? Soo right, I don't know how many years
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: your plan is, but it's not about yes by five
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: by five she come rolling up there a little bit
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: shorter than five. That threw you off, didn't mars threw
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: you all? Brother well not to be computer the three yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: And she came in there and she came in there
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to beat up man, so but
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  Speaker 1: you know five and three is different though, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you see I learned about you. You're a man, you
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  Speaker 1: know you're you're a guy who don't write things down
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  Speaker 1: in pencil with the racing. You write stuff down with
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: on eraceable real quick. Right, yep, that's me. I, Like
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I said, I like to make decisions quick and I'm
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: resolute when I make them. So so the the T shirt.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: So so why did you why did you? Why did
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: you change the plan? Though? Well, because a woman and
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I see my husband's vision and I know the vision
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: of our company and I growth. And so when my
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: husband got into the general contract and feel and coal, okay,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, it would be it will go hand
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: and hand for us to do this, you know, together.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: So as I was learning more about commercial development, you
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: know the program that I'm I'm working on my second
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: masters right now, and it's an ATMs program. So I'm like,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I could go ahead, get into this program and then
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: by the end of the five year plan, I have
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: my degree and I'm ready to hit the ground running.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: So well, you didn't hit the ground running now and
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: in the series, it kind of caught you off guard.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm gonna just tell you this, the three real
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: I gotta be real. When when you said that, I
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: think you said something like, uh, just just just you
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: allowing her to do this, just to be happy. That
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: didn't come across really do on TV. And it didn't.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: It made you. It made you look bad, my soul,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Really, it made you look
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: like you showing this herd up. It made you look souvinistic,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: and it really took me aback because wow, he said that,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Because because because because your wife. She's beautiful, you know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: she's honest, she's loving, and and it looked like it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying is that when you do
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: these shows, you know, because you're you're you're, you're on
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: this couple, you have an open communication and sometimes you
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: might joke around and make a statement, but then they
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: let's get captured on film that becomes part of the storyline.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Did that moment, how did that moment play back to
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: you guys when it aired? And did you have to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: deal with any issues within the household when it aired? Um,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I can't say right now that that was not my
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: best moment, one of those times of things that uh,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I don't. I don't regret I
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: think that much of my life because it's a great
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: learning is. But yeah, I would, I would. I wouldn't
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: do it again. And I've learned that that mistake. Um,
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: And the truth of the matter is, I mean, I
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: hate to say it, but yeah, I mean it's it's
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: just it was just a mistake on my part with
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: that with that, and I apologize to that. And I
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: think that a challenge with us because we're I know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: everyone says they're authentic but the challenge with us because
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: we're authentic and yeah, yeah, and we don't. We didn't
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: what blind signed it up and what blind sided me particularly.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I don't care about people talking about me, but what
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: blind side about me is how my jokes made my
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: wife look. And that's not something I mean. As as
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: much of a provider as I am, I'm also a
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: protector and I don't want to even if I come
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: around as being a jerk, I don't care, but I
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: don't want it to make it look like that she's
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: weak because she's not. I wouldn't even I'm not the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: kind of guy that needs some marry a weak person
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: to seem strong. Not week Okay, but I knew you
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: were joking. I knew you were joking. I know that
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: I do television all my life, you know the last
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: nineteen nineteen names two, I've been doing television, and I
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: know how you can edit things. The teacher, you would
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: respond to that because I know that wasn't the case,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and it came across like he was a controlling he
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: didn't care about your future and then didn't introduce your
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: worried about your vision. How did that affect you when
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: it aired? Yeah, it was because I know Martha personality.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: I knew it was a joke, and I took conversation
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: with him, Hey, I know you're joking. Mostly most of
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the time I'm laughing at all. But people looking on
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: it from the outside looking and I'm like, oh my god,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I can't believe you better. Oh my god. So and
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: They'm like, and she's not even gonna say anything that
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to him. And that's why people love my mom so much,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: because my mom was like, well I handled it, but
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I know my husband and I know it
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: was a joke. And also the whole me going back
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: to school to me um getting my real state degree.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: That was something that we discussed, tried to eat and
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: feel it before the show came up to the part
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: of the plan. So when he said play your role baby,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: all right now, he said you're doing it for fun,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, myself whatever, And I
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: walked away from that because I'm like, whatever, dude, you
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: show did. When he said that, I went, oh, no,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: so no you didn't. This is on film. But you can't.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: You can't pull this some back, brother, You can't pull
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: us some back. But but that that's but that's the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: whole part of this whole process with with with knowing
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that that can air like that, and then that later
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: on when when I think about Tale accused you of
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: having twenty women, which I thought was terrible, which I
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: thought was horrible. Just to throw something out there and
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: then then your mother in law bring it back later on.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: That's not why you guys did this show. But what
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: are the what are the benefits of doing this type
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: of show so far? Well, that's not one I can
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I can say that right now. Um you know, Um,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: that's I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you a dealing story.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: We I'm doing a business deal with a gentleman and
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: and I was doing in the in the midst of
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: speaking with one of the owners. They uh, I'm sitting
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: there talking. He said, hey, let me tell you something,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: and he pulls out the telephone and he shows where
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: he was inquiring about our company. And that person said, well,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know them, great, but I just did some
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: research and this is what I found. And the person
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: sent that to the person I'm doing business with. And
• 32:31
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• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I can tell you right now if I'm sitting in
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: his chair and I'm looking to do business with someone.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I don't want uh integrity related issues to be the
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: primary focus that can I trust this guy, you know?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: And so that right there was definitely unexpected. Now we
• 32:51
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• 32:53
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• 32:56
  Speaker 1: But I want to make sure that when Marcel's got
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: with the name so Scott has written, you know, and
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: then you know, when I'm no longer here, that what
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I've done and who I am actually get designed through.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: And so that was definitely a blind side for me.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: And to be very clear, that was not that, that's
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: not the reason why we got on it. And along
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: that same path, that's not something I couldn't. I couldn't
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: continue along that because that's not even reality. That's just right,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: that's not fair. That's not fair, you know. And then
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: but that's why my opening question was why are you
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: guys doing this show? Because I saw an authentic couple.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I saw a loving couple. I saw a strong black woman.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I saw a strong black man. I remember make a
• 33:37
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• 33:39
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• 33:42
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• 33:45
  Speaker 1: they can shape stories to go not the direction that
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: you wanted to go. But the beauty of this series
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: with you two is I love the way I'm seeing
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: you coming out of this cocoon the teacher, and I
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: think that's in portant because the fastest growing entrepreneurs in
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: America are black females, and so you are playing such
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: a tremendous role and showing that it's possible even in
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: the Huntsville, Alabama there are opportunities. So do you understand
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  Speaker 1: that you You may know this already, I don't understand
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  Speaker 1: anything crazy, But do you understand that you are a
• 34:22
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• 34:26
  Speaker 1: to African American women. Um, you know, I didn't look
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: at it that way, and wow, none did you say
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: that there's definitely something to consider going forward. Um, but
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: it's just I just want to show that, yes, you
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: can have a powerful marriage and also run a successful
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: business while raising amazing kids. That is my overall goal.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be a successful businesswoman but move
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: my husband, you know, in the process. So that example
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I want to put out there. I know there's so
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: many ladies now they want to be you know, a
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: box on box. I'm seeing I'm running things, and I'm like, hey,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: it's okay. So let your man really be the lead
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: in the head in your family and you have your
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: role as the wife in his help mate. My visions
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: for all of this was when I pray about you
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: know where I'm going and where I'm hitting in life,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: God is putting on my heart. Then listen, your husband.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: You're gonna help him along the path. You know you're
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: gonna be there to support him and help him along
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: this way. You also, you're gonna have your wrong You're
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: gonna do your thing. But my husband is my leader,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: and I you know, I followed behind, I follow under him,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: and he has lent me to such a great successful
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: life so far. So as long as you have that leader,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the one that you want to leave, and he's seventy
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: example for your family, why not follow something like that? Well,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm not disagree
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: with you. I think this outstanding. That's why I brought
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: your own on the show. Because first I'm on fans
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: and that's why sometimes you know, I'm successful and I've
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: done a lot of great things in my life, and
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: sometimes and I feel deemed YouTube is very successful. And
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to make that statement about you because
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: so many moms are trapped at home or don't know
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: how to follow their dreams. I don't know other options.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: And to watch you do it on national TV and
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: allow it to be outlined in this story, I think
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: it's really incredible. And I wanted to make sure if
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: you didn't know, now you know, okay, and and that's
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: that's a blessing, you know. I want to say something
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: on that real quick. When he's the first got accepted
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: into the Emerald or the Messages of Real Estate Development program,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: we had a conversation and I said almost the same
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: extent that what you're saying right now said do When
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the kitchen said, babe, you know what this means and
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, you know. Now I'm gonna be there,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be working together, I was like, for you,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I want you to understand that, no matter how big
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: my personality is and where I am at right now,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: your your star is righter than mine when it comes
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: to this because as even right now, we have a
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: strip mall um in North Plintsville. I'm a commercial developer.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: He owns the strip mall. Even as she was a
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: stay at home mom, she was the owner of our
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: apartment complex. So the sole owner is the any property
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: sole owner. So the thing about it is I hateful.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Even with the chopinism, this is a lot we can
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: laugh in the background, right. Chopping is the main control
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: is because even as people say, hey, he stay at
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: home mom, I don't want them to think that the
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: check them downs is are not there. In terms of ownership,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: she owns eighty five percent of scope. He owns one
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: of the real state endeavors. She owns fifty one percent
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: of the black degir lines. And so this this my
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Soison lost his mind in terms of all he controlled.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: If I walking away right now, I'd walking with less
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: than fift of our wealth. So, uh, you know, her
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: start is right, she had a bright stop. Now I wouldn't.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mentioning her storm. I was shining there. Oh
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: I was shining. Oh no, no, no, no, no, I
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: was in agreement with you that you know. It's the
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: beauty of it. Now at the moment for me also,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: which I thought, really because I'm talking about the show too,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: was what the storyline moment that really I thought brought
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: your character back was going in the restaurant. You know,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: when you saw her, they allowed us to see that,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: you saw her potential. You know, that was important for
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: your character. I thought for this for the first season.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: Did you do you agree? Yeah, I think so, I
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: think so. I think that, Um, I don't know how
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: this works. Growing up, I wanted to be a protector.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I want to be a provided her. We we we
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: were we you know, we we saw it was holding
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: it down. That that's how we value the measure. And
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: so yes, I thought that, you know, I was doing right,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't realize that. I mean, honestly,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I just didn't didn't even give the second thought that.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: You know, my wife wanted to do this stuff too,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: I thought he we just wanted to be to sit
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: back and kill and it just kind of I didn't
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: know how to deal with it. I didn't know what
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: it meant for us. And so just as long as
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I'm listening and see that he can contribute saying more so,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: enough thought, so, yeah, take them back a little bit
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: on that one. But you see how hard he was.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: He was like, okay, baby. But then's the authentic part
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: of it. See see, I got an eye for talent,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: and I see things play out, and I see what
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: they could do in the editing room. And I thought
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: that was important that that episode came up because I
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: knew you kind of like you joke a lot. You
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: on the jokesters. You know that's your wife. And and
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: like I said, people can read jokes differently if they
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: don't see the whole joke, they just see the punch line.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: And so they caught you a lot of punchlines. Okay,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: and then it built you to be like a controlling guy.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: But that moment in that restaurant, man, they shot it beautifully. Man,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: when you looked over and go, babe, I love you,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I got you, I got your back to me. I
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: would my boy back into the series. This is we
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: can move ahead and do everything. Now. I know you
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: want to do another podcast with him, but you know
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: everything else is beautiful. Rights. You know, I'm saying, teacher,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna do no more podcast? When he said
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: that loud, let's get the script. He gotta get his script.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: See here you're not gonna You're not gonna bring more
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: so and that and live with him. No more, no, no, no, no,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: no no no. Now mom, So let's talk about the
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: mother in law. Now, what's real and what's fact in
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: your relationship with your mother in law? Teacher's mother, Man,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: she's uh, I gad, she's a she's a brother of air,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: you know. But it's a fresh air? Is it fresher?
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying I'm not getting the fresh I'm just
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: saying that stopping, stopping, nor mama is a bred and
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: fresh air. I'm gonna defend your mom, teacher, if you
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: don't defend your mom, you guys, because what's fresh? Come on, Frank,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Come on, Frank man, he's definitely Ay, that's Alabama, say, man,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: that's my guy. Hey, but man, it's just it's just
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: just a lot. It's just a lot to take and
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta you gotta know her heart. She's a
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: sweet woman. She's gets a lot of love and she's
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit you know, it's a little different than
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: than you know, we're allays from. But he has a
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: different little point with absolutely that. So teaching, what's the goals? Now,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: what's the goals? Now, you know, we talked about the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: second season. We're about to roll into the first season.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: We're about to roll in the second season because I
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: want to talk about the car line. But where are
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: you at with your career that they're showcasing in the
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: second season. Yeah, so, um, I am still in school
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: from fill in school right now. I guess I'm gonna
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: a t my program. So that is it just it
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: just trying to the school the kids. Also, UM the plazas,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: so we're developing his retap plaza. I've also done with
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: two to commercial deals so far with different UM small
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: business owners. So I'm not like jumping into the commercial
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: world like Fool or forth. I'm taking baby stups to Fool.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: But I'm still making some you know, I'm bringing some
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: food to the table a little bit, just a little
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: bit at a little bit there, come on, so come on,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, he's making it happen. I mean, I
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: think sometimes he doesn't actually recognize hees. He hasn't put
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: on paper and get a chance to see what he's
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: actually doing. He owns a strip mall here in towns,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: he owns us he's building two restaurants or company. Is
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: um you know, building an apartment complex, hetz in the hotel,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: building two restaurants, the strip mall. We're looking forward to
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: building other apartment complexes and things like that. So yeah,
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: I mean so so we've got a lot going on
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: right now. Wow, that's all I going us. How did
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: your cigar lounge come up with? What I did? What
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: gave that vision? Because we're talking about Huntsville, Okay, we're
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: not talking about at Land On New York of Chicago.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a cigar lounge in huts first, before
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: you asked the course to tell everybody about Huntsville, the environment,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: because I've been there several times. Because I should do
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: stand up comedy and how's you coming too, talent do
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: And that's the headquarters of NASA. So there's a lot
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: of a lot of educated people, a lot of educated
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: dollars in Huntsfield. A lot of people know about it.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Tell us about Huntsville, right quick, Marcel, Well, hunt hunt
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: is a you know, it is a fast growing city. Uh,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: it's one of the most nor it's the northernmost uh,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: you know, major cities in Alabama. And honestly, it's it's uh,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: it's a melting pot. In terms of diversity of thought,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: it is uh, you know, diversity of income. Most people
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: in that are living hunt now because of NASA, FBI, Facebook,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Hilaris and a lot of people that have come in
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: for the boom. A lot of people are not from Huntsville,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and so you get that, you get that ability to think,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, as the most engineers for Cathol, I believe
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the United States definitely the most rocket scientists. So I
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: mean it's not crazy to have a conversation at the
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: bar and say what do you some kind of rocket
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: scientists and they say, exactly right, And it's and and
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: it's really funny because it's not just it's it's uh,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: it's a higher income, but it's not it's engineer money.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: And engineer money spends a lot different than entertainment money
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: or um things like that. So when when people look
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: at what people look for in Huntsville, they look for value.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: And you know, when we're kind of assessing the area
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: and kind of doing our demographic study and saying what
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: do we want to put over in this area, that's
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: kind of how Segar Allilenge came about. When we're talking
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: about when when we started examining the area and saying,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: you know what, what would be a good fit here now?
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Is there? Okay? No, I was just gonna just add
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: a little bit to what Marco just said. The area
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: that we're developing the cigar lounge at the medium income
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: in that particular areas right around A hundred and fifty
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: one thousand. It's like, yeah, and it's a great area
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: for redevelopment and also small business growth. UM in North Huntsville,
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: which is where our that's our target market right now,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: and it's like the economy there is the market pro stress,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: it's like, um, it has increased by more than justice
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: like two thousand and eight. And then when you're you're
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: thinking about small business growth with the strict and around
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: seven percent range. So it's a great area to comeing
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: to to develop and we're looking for more small businesses
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: and restaurants to come into the area. Well, wow, it
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: sounds like a lot of research has been put into
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: this whole process. It's food going to be served at
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: the cigar lounge, yes, sir, well, it's by definition, based
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: on zoning, it's a restaurant right and in that so
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: so we can't have an actual class two lounge like
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: a license is gonna definitely have an alcohol. Um, so
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: it is actually a restaurant there right, Um, but but
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: it teachures more topics, so you know it features more topics.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Is really upscale? Um? You know, exclusively, I guess. I
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: guess our tagline is exclusively for everyone, you know, to
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: make sure that we're exclusive without excluding. You know. The
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: interesting thing about one of the reasons, one of the
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: one of the topics I bring up, I always talk
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: about a balanced life, living a balanced life, and you know,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: this is really something that rings out and when I communicate,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: even when you were saying okay, you know do we
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: jokingly talked about the five year rule because that was
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: that was your version of balanced life. And then teachers say, hey,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: I want to get back out there early. Then the
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: balanced life, the whole issue comes into the plane and
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. Talk about that whole how is how
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: is the balanced life working? Because your kids? I don't
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: tell people children didn't ask to come in this world.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: We brought them in, you know, and then when they
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: come here, we gotta be responsible to raising them right
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: and showing getting them time and pointing them in the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: right direction. How's the balance life? Working now for you too.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: M hm. You know what's in the road. Well, you know,
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I always gonna say that, um, balance, you know, I
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: understand where you talk about like you know, your time,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: your words, your food, your you know, and and and
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: in your money. Those are things. These are daily battles.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: You're not gonna win it today and then say oh
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: it's good. You don't get to go to the gym
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: and say oh now I can eat what I want
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: because I worked out earlier. I made all this and
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: so now I get to spend it. You know, this
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: is these are daily balances. I mean the daily challenges.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: And so that is the same with balance in your life.
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Is that you know, I'll sometimes and he said, man,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: I'm doing really well. I'm you know, me and me
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: and my son m J. We're out golfing, me and
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: my daughter's head that balance night and were talking about flowers,
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: you know, and you know is all these things happen
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: and then the next week you get a project and
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: you get rain and you got this right here, and
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: I mean you're working all day and all all night
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. So balance is something that you
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: have to That's why we lean on each other, right
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: sometimes we look at each other and say, hey, hey,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: you out of balance. And sometimes they miss you, the
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: kids miss you. I miss you. What are we doing?
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: Are we getting too focused? Will be looking too far
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: down the road to readily to really see what's in
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: the car, you know. So we need those checks from
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: each other and and and so, yes, we try to
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: work on balancing downs get out of balance. I appreciate
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: both of you guys coming on the show. I love
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: both of you. Okay, Like I said, you are a
• 48:52
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• 48:56
  Speaker 1: watching you and we're praying for you, hoping you my so.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: But man, you you're the beast, your beast. Don't change,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: keep uplifting, keep keep moving forward. You know, friendship business
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: sensial too, so you know, for uplift. Okay, so, but
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: don't change. Both of you guys. I really appreciate you
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: coming on the show. I just want to have a
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: conversation with the authentic couple. Nothing fake here. And just
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: also just let you know that keep your head up
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: and a balanced life is part of the part of
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: being a balanced life. Some days it's even sometimes it's lopsided.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: As long as you maintain focused on the importance of
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: being a couple and being great parents. You're gonna keep winning. Okay.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: That we really for having us on to just talk
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: about a little bit about the show and about the business.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: And I know one of the things everybody kept saying,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: you know, you have to make sure you have that foundation.
• 49:47
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• 49:50
  Speaker 1: years of marriage this year. So and I asked Callous this.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Other days talking abo were talking about reality TV and
• 49:56
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• 49:59
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• 50:01
  Speaker 1: the show that you know, there's no perfect marriage. You
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: guys get to really truly experience what we're going through
• 50:07
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• 50:10
  Speaker 1: pray for us, and we're hoping to, you know, really
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: just come out strong on the other end of this,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: all right, you will, so you'll be careful, not be safe.
• 50:19
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• 50:24
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  Speaker 1: passion and start baking. He took that passion and started
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  Speaker 1: his very own business called Brother bakes as b A
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  Speaker 1: b r O t h A Bakes' is an online
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  Speaker 1: bakery based out of Houston, Texas. They specialize in cakes
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  Speaker 1: and they ship all over the country. That's what we're
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: talking about, online bakery that ships all over the country.
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome to money Making Conversation, my man, Houstonian Mark Lennon.
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  Speaker 1: All right, thanks for having me well Mark that introduction
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  Speaker 1: man making me feel at professional. Well, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: you're professional. I today you delivered uh to my house
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  Speaker 1: for your desserts. They come in the jar that kicks
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  Speaker 1: in the jar. We'll talk about more detail, but let
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  Speaker 1: everybody know one of us called the the Ready Murphy.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: I love this guy. You know, he has a sense
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  Speaker 1: of humor and he ties the names of famous people,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: but he shifts a little bit into their name. Do
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  Speaker 1: you kind of know what the dessert is tied to
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  Speaker 1: the name of the celebrity that he's married the dessert
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  Speaker 1: to Ready Murphy. I got that today. The Banana Ross
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  Speaker 1: got that to say, the Germaine dupris, which is German
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  Speaker 1: chocolate cake, which I love. I'm tasting Man German chic.
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  Speaker 1: Youah be sold on German tacic. So is that what's
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  Speaker 1: your website. So German Chocolate Cake, I was your man.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: I was your man right there, and then the Marah
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  Speaker 1: carry and my second favorite cake is carrot cake. So
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: you already got two of my favorite cakes over there,
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  Speaker 1: the German Taka cake and the carrot cake. So let's
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: talk about well, you're taking care of me, because guess
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: what this is what I'm gonna do for you. I'm
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: gonna post you on social media. Okay. First of all,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: gonna take a picture with me holding your product. Okay,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna post it on social media. You know, I've
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: got like eight hundred thousand followers on my Facebook, right
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: and then this Wednesday, I'm going to drop your the
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: image that you have on your Facebook, that beautiful image
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  Speaker 1: that you have all those open jars. I'm gonna drop
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: that on the Facebook. Put the link in my newsletter
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: that goes out there naighty thousand fans on Wednesday. So
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: those are the things that I do, Money Making Conversation,
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff free charge. Then I'm gonna drop you
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  Speaker 1: into my my shopping zone on my Money Making Conversation
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  Speaker 1: dot com. You can go there click shopping Zone on
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  Speaker 1: Navigation bar. And I'm building that for stores that I
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  Speaker 1: recommend people to go shop at because they're credible and
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  Speaker 1: they provide a great product. So that's that's what you're
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: getting because you're a great person and you're following your dreams. Okay,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: oh man, well, thank you to you. We appreciate that.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Well good, well, good, well good. Let let's talk about
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: let's talk about what inspired let's let's let's talk about
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: your truck driving life. Let's talk about that first and
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: so then because we want to understand the time that
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: was spent over there too before we peep it into
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: the what what what inspired you to do your dream
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: and how you're doing your dream. Okay, let's talk about
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: truck driving life. All right, Yeah, let's do that. So
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: a little bit more before we get into truck driving.
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  Speaker 1: I was actually a classic designer for like fifteen years, okay,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: cool man, Yeah, in Columbia, South Carolina, and just then
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: work out, you know, the market drive up a little bit.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: I need to do something. Um, I'm a guy who's
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: trying to provide from provide for my family. So the
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: idea of going back to school for three or four
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: years just wasn't having it for me. So I was
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: like you know what, I can get this CDL in
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: six weeks start working providing for my family. So that's
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: how I became a truck driver. And I've been doing
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: that for about four years. Uh, it's been good for me,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: it's been good for my family. Is actually a good break,
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: um from the glass design in the marketing. But then, um,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: as I'm driving, you know, and uh, it just wasn't
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: It's just not my full passion. I do enjoy it,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm good at it, but it just wasn't
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: where I wanted to be. Now you are, you're a
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: local driver or you line drive from state to state
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: the city of the city. Yeah, I'm a local driver
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  Speaker 1: right here in Houston Metro for those of you familiar
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  Speaker 1: with Houston. UM, my route is anywhere from Houston down
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  Speaker 1: to Galveston for right. Well, good, Well. The reason I
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: found out about you, my friend, was, of course, Uh,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: everybody knows Steve Harvey. I've been knowing each other for
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: thirty years. I was a manager from official manager from
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: two thousands sixteen, and I read an article in the
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle, the number one newspaper in Houston, and they
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: talked about you, and then you had a little note
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: in there that said that you were inspired by something
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: to talk about that is what inspired you that Steve
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Harvey did for you. Yeah, back in um the early
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: part of the nineteen I'm just sitting in the barbershop
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: getting my hair cut. My barbera plays this video. It
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: has Steve Harvey in it, my Hulse, Monroe in Denzel Washington,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: and I'm listening to it and Steve said, if that
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: alarm clock goes up every morning and you're not excited
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: about what you're doing, you're not living in your passion.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: And that hit me like a ton of bricks. And
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: I was like, man, that it just resonated with me.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: So from that point on, I started thinking, man, what
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: am I doing? What should I be doing? Where's my passion?
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Went through a bunch of stuff that I was thinking about.
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  Speaker 1: And Steve also said that if it comes easy to
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: you something you do better than anybody else, Like you
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: give an example, if you cut here better than anybody else,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: you should be cutting here. And even said if you
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: bake better than anyone else, you should be baking. And
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I was and that kind of hit me. I was like,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'll make some pretty good cake, and
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: from that point on, it was just full speed ahead.
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  Speaker 1: How can I get this going? How can I get
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  Speaker 1: it started? And Steve really inspired me. It changed my life,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: It really did. Okay, Okay, he motivated you. Okay, But
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: that motivation and execution are two different things now, because
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of people get motivated, you know that, Mark right, Oh,
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: I'm excited go out there and then and say, oh
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: I gotta do all that. Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. Okay, cool.
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Now let's talk about you know, said graphic designer. You
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: learn how to pivot truck driver, smart move and comes
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: that income. Now, all these pivot moves and you're making
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: you have to discuss what the number one at the
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: house the wife Okay, yeah, I got two handsome young
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: men there. Okay, So talk about that conversation that you
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: had with her and had you displayed these gifts to
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  Speaker 1: her and at that level that she believed that it
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: was possible. Talk about that? Yeah, yeah, Well, you know
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: my biggest fans of my wife and my two kids,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: of my baking, they've experienced more of my desert than
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: anybody else. You knew the product was good, but she
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: also know that I'm a pro person who's tried a
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: few things in the past, things that didn't work out.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: So she was a little worried at first. I'll be
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: honest with you, and she say, look, if you're gonna
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: do this, you need to do it right. You need
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: to go hard on it, and this needs to be
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: the thing. It's like, I can't have you flaking out
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: on me. And once we had that conversation and I
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: kind of explained to her in my dis and I
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: was like, well, this is different because I'm really passionate
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: about it. Excuse me. And she was all on board, welcome,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: very encouraging that that's that's that's important because like I said,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: you know when we come and when I bring guests,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: like your money making conversation because you you're startup. You
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: went from startup to execution. Now is this is part
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: of the promotion, you know, you helping you get your
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: word out generating additional This is more of a thank
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: you Rochan for any of you on me, but also
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: helped me promote and sell my cakes. What exactly Brother Bake?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: What exactly does Brother Bakes do? Okay, so what we
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: do is we specialize in making cakes in the kay
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: that one more time, say that one more time. Now
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: you specialize in whatnot? Whatnot? We put kkes, We put
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: cakes into jars and we ship them all over the country,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: including Alaska, Hawaii. That's what we do. And they had
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: the equivalent of about two cupcakes. And uh cold, frankly,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: are the most delicious cakes you can find in a jar.
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  Speaker 1: Now you know, I'm a dessert guy. Okay, ye, people
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  Speaker 1: look at my people always complain about going to my
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Facebook page. Is said, Wich, I'm tired of you make
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: me hongry. Okay, get on my doring nervous, said, they
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  Speaker 1: said another word. But but it's all positive when they
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  Speaker 1: say that, you know, from Peach Cobb, the Germany Chocolate Cake,
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  Speaker 1: sweet Potato pie care Cake. Now, what made you believe Mark,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: that you can put a cake in a jar and
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: somebody would buy that? What made you believe that? Now,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: Steve Cheef Harvey didn't say that to you. Okay, Steve
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  Speaker 1: didn't say that to me. So how how this all
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: came about? Yeah, we want to know that. We want
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: to know that. Now I knew I had good products.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: It was pretty confident about that. But typically the case
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: I bake a full sized cakes and I thought about, well,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: you know what, sending a cake in the mail for me,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: it just wasn't gonna happen. That's just not something that
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: I wanted to tackle. So I started thinking about it. Now,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: I've heard of people doing this before. In fact, about
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: five or six years ago, as a Christmas gift, I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: had some Christmas velvet and a cake that I gave
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: out to some family members. They loved it, and I
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: just came back to that idea, like, you know what,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I put these cakes in the jar, I can ship
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: them all over the place. And not only that, instead
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: of family having one flavor of cake, they can have
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: four different flavors, eight different flavors, whatever they want, and
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: everybody's happy. So that's why where that kind of came from.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: That's why I decided to do that. You know, it's
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: easier to ship jars than it is a full size cake,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: absolutely absolutely, But it's it's not so much that you
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: know it's easier, but just do you have to maintain
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: the quality, you know, And that's that's the whole process
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: we're talking about right now. Because and you want return customers,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: you want word of mouth customers, you want people, you know,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: especially become seasonal customers and thinks like that. Now, now
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: we all know what hit this year, the pandemic COVID nineteen. Okay,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: when did you launch your business? Let me ask you
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: that question, Mark. Okay, So I launched my business officially
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: in November. November. Okay, nobody saw a pandemic coming. Nobody
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: saw it coming. Um, and here I am. You know,
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I'm selling my cakes online and that's going well. But
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I'm in Houston. Houston is hopping. Man,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: everything's going on in Houston. So why don't I take
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: some of my cakes to the markets, um, some of
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: the festivals around here. And as soon as I geared
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: up to do that, that's when COVID hit and so
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: all of that was shut down. So you know, I
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: had to take a step back, Like you know what,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: dream still goes for it. So I reimpy, you know,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: my efforts, and I decided to just focus more on
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: the online sales, and um, that's kind of where we are. Wow. Wow,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to Mark Lennon. He's hestone in by way
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: of Columbia, South Carolina. Right, Okay, I know, my brother,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I know about Columbia many day, went down there and
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: uh did some jokes with me and Steve out there
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: selling out there the township auditorioum okay, I had to
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: hit you in the name. You go, oh yeah, oh yeah,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: he for real, he for real? Off then you know
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: about the township resolute bit brother, a little park a
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: lot that surrounds that build. It looks like old church.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Before we get started in that direction about your business
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: and and we know what's happening out there. Black lives matters.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: We saw what happened to George Floyd. We'll see what
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: happened to you know, you're a black man just like me.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: Policemen stopped me and I just could just be honest.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: It's not a comfortable feeling for any African American male
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: to be stopped on I'm sorry. Yeah, it has not
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: been something. It has been that way my whole life.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: It was just I got a driver slice and it's
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: been that way, and that should not be the case.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: You have two young men, uh that you're raising, how
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: do you approach that and what have you what what
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: experiences have you shared with them? That's what's going on.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Because sometimes you do limit the amount of expose you
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: you do the kids or children or teenagers tell us
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: about that experience that you're you're and your wife are
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: dealing with right now and raising those two young men. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: You know, we do live in a time where we
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: have to have these conversations, you know, with our kids.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: And you know, my kids are twelve and fifteen, and
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: quite thankly we've just been very straight up with them.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: We haven't sugarcoated. We let them know that, look, you
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: may be hanging with some of your friends and they
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: may be able to do certain things that you simply
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: cannot do, just because this is the world we live
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: in and you're doing the same thing they do can
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: cause you to get hurt or get yourself in trouble,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: and it's not fair, and we explain that to them.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: We know it's not fair, it's not right, but that
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: is the world we live in. I'd rather you be
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: here tomorrow, upset that it happened, and you'll not be here.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: We've been very straight up with our kids about what's
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: going on in society and it's very important and that
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: and that in turn talks about the COVID nineteen. We
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: all know how it has impacted African American special people
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: of color. We want to include the Hispanic community. How
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: have uh you all lie business? I would like to
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: believe that your your business has not been affected as
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: much as a as a bricket mortar. Yeah, exactly, it
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: has not. UM. In fact, you know, despite what's going on,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: you know, our sales have gone up, and I think
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: in part because of Black Lives Matter and there are
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: people that are supporting more black businesses. That part is true,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: but also the fact that people are stuck at home
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: and they still want delicious desserts and then we can
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: provide them with that, and I think that is a
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: big part of of what's going on. UM in all honesty,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: as well as for me myself, you know, getting connected
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: with UM. Next Insurance featured me in a commercial. Talk
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: about that. That's right, Next Insurance. As I've seen those
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: commercials with the people making a box and out of
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: Next and doing different things with the word Next. Talk
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: about that right quick? Okay, So you know, UM, when
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: I started this business back in November of UM, I
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: went hard on it. I really did. I had advertising
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: and all that. Through one of those advertising UM, this
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: young lady by the name of Jack found me and
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: She was like, Hey, would you be interested in doing
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: something with Next Insurance? How COVID has affected me and
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I did you know? I told my story similar what
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: I said earlier about how I was all get up
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: to get out here in Houston and promote my business,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: going to different festivals and to the markets, but when
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: COVID hit, I had to shut down. But as my story,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: Next love that story, so they wanted to feature me
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: and they did and from that point on things have
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: been going really well for me. What exactly is Next Insurance?
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: We can tell everybody what it is. You're part of it.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the small business world, how how impactful
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: it is, and how we all need that type of
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: insurance specially that's the last thing we kind of budget
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: when we start out our business. It's insurance and insurance
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: should be the top of the line. Okay to talk
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: about that. You know you in Next contact, did you
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: you say that it brought it shinned a lot of
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: popularity on you. But also you kind of like a
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: spokesperson too, So tell me what exactly is Next Insurance? So?
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Next Insurance is um an insurance company that specialized and
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: providing insurance for small businesses. They have a website that
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: is so easy to use to sign up in minutes.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: It's nice and affordable in the paths were free. Their
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: customer services wonderful and of course not only I represent them,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: but you know I am a customer as well and
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: has no problems, uh when I need to talk to someone.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: So Next has been really good and it is a
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: good insurance for small businesses. All so gross with you
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: as well. Absolutely youth startings and they can expand with you. Absolutely. So,
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about your business you started in November.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: If you you know, I'm not using the world mistake,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: but we all budget certain things, and we all think
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: this is going to go in a certain direction. And
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: we're not talking about COVID nineteen or we're not talking
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: about these the civil unrest is going on with protesting
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: the streets. We're talking about starting a business and planning
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: it out right. Who did you seek advice from and
• 1:09:29
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  Speaker 1: Why did you bring what? Which I find very humorous
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  Speaker 1: need to get into the various desserts. Okay, so you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm I love Black culture, I love my people, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I wanted to celebrate it. That was the first thing.
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  Speaker 1: started out. But with the names, you know, I'm sitting down,
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I didn't just want to call it a
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  Speaker 1: call it a red velvet cake. I wanted something that
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  Speaker 1: was catchy, wanted something that was connected to African American culture. So,
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  Speaker 1: kind of tapping back into my graphic design and marketing background,
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  Speaker 1: the name Ready Murphy just kind of popped up and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, and I kind of like that. So
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  Speaker 1: And from that point it was just coming up with
• 1:11:58
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  Speaker 1: into our culture. Cool. The next case is this is
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  Speaker 1: my favorite name though, the chocoal Con. That's funny. That's funny,
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  Speaker 1: you know. The be honest is that was actually the
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  Speaker 1: second name I came up with, the chocolate can now
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  Speaker 1: at what point is whole thing? Did your wife said
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  Speaker 1: You said it? You know she loves because she knows me.
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  Speaker 1: He knows that's who I am, right, he knows that's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm all about. So she she was just dying,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, oh yeah, let's go with it, right,
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  Speaker 1: And that's what that's That's all that we were saying about,
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  Speaker 1: following that passion, you know, getting up out of bed.
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  Speaker 1: I always tell people, if it's difficult for you to
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  Speaker 1: so if you're smiling and you're laughing and you're enjoying,
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  Speaker 1: you're having fun building your dream. When you get out
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  Speaker 1: of bed, you can out of bed and find out
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  Speaker 1: how many more cakes you can get sold. And that's
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  Speaker 1: a different passion than to say, delivery I gotta make
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  Speaker 1: in Galveston. That's different, Pat, Yeah, so so much different. Okay, cool,
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  Speaker 1: the ross. But now the ross no mountain, high enough, valley,
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  Speaker 1: from this dessert. I love it. Exactly. Yeah, definitely. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: a little tribute to the clean Diana Ross on that one. Um.
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  Speaker 1: the second name he came up with. Now with the
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Banana Ross. Now, let's go on down to it. German
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  Speaker 1: dupri which is Germaine Duprix. Yeah, actually lived in Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: coconut frosting. Tried it and we think, wow, that's hot, man,
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one here, Lamon James. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: He's you know, that's saying Michael isn't pro black, but
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  Speaker 1: my friend, he steps out there. So I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was a perfect Lament James for Lemon cake. Who's perfect
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  Speaker 1: right there. So so don't shy away from that. Michael
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  Speaker 1: And then it's it's crazy at the at the Palm restaurant,
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  Speaker 1: always go there and get my huge carrot cake. But
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• 1:15:32
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  Speaker 1: to Mariah Carrey. We talked about that one. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: that's my carrot cake. Um, true story. I was never
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  Speaker 1: me to, um, you know, have another flavor other than
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  Speaker 1: you know, the ones I already had, I tried to
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  Speaker 1: excuse me. I tried carry cake, came up with a
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, my brother thingy. But Eustonian man, you know,
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  Speaker 1: You have to do it all Mark, and that's you.
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  Speaker 1: we have such big, huge celebrities, um well, big celebrities
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  Speaker 1: that have started to explore only fans. And then when
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  Speaker 1: you have a pew celebrity like Beyonce, uh that that
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: wraps and says on my demon time, I might make
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: it only fans, you know, And it just pushed, it
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: just peaked it up more, you know, especially for those
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: people that were curious about it. You know, one thing,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: one thing about me, I don't uh, I don't run
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: from my past. That don't hide from my past. I
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: feel like that you have to do. You have to
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: um grasp your past so that you can accept your future,
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: you know. And a part of my past that was
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: that's what I did. That was an adult entertainment field.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: And I used to do our films, UM produce some
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: starry in them. They were kind of like what what
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: people are doing on only fans now? However, you know,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: it's just my excite and I made money off of that.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: Like I definitely that's the industry that would go to
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: the cars that were dealt to me at the time,
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: and that's the industry that I was in. You know,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: I'm not promoting it, but I mean it is what
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: it is. Well, the thing about this that I'm not
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: even being negative about it. You know, I know we
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: all go through different things in life and because like
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: you said, made money and we all grow because of
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: the thing about it. The thing I appreciate the fact
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: is that you've been allowed to move on. Okay, it
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: is your pass, you know what I'm saying. That is
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: what to feel that social media allows us to do now,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: because if you didn't have social media, you basically have
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: trapped into that story that that's the story that they
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: they can say you are, that's who you are. But
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: social media has allowed you to be able to say
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: that's that's my that's far of my resume. But look
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: at what I'm going now and look what I represent now,
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: And this is what I really wanted to bring you
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: on the show to talk about how we can get
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: because a lot of people get frustrated they they do
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: make decisions, whether it's a business decision or relationship decision
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: or lifestyle decision, and then they feel they can't they
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: can't climb out of that rut. And on my show,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: I tried to bring on individuals that can share some
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: nuggets to say, yes, I did this. I've openly confessed
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: I do that, but you used the new age of
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: branding now that allows you to have a voice, that
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: allows you to call your press conference anytime you feel like, yeah,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: that's happening, you know, and and much to pig it
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: back off what you're saying, Like, I've embraced my past,
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: and my personality has always been you know, over the
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: top and you know, bigger than life. I've been very opinionated,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: and I got into you know, social commentary and and
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: and and blogging and YouTube and Instagram, you know, all
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: these safes where I was able to let my opinion
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: start to make me make money for me, make a
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: living for me. And I once again I the tools
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: that I learned in a prior life and applied them
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: to this one and was able to package up and
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: and you know, resell myself as a social media influencer. Um,
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: half million, you are not not kind of sell yourself
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: half million Instagram followers that more. You're doing your thing,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: my friend. You're doing your time, my friend. But let's
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: let's talk about you as a as a brand. Let's
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: talk about the Queen Supreme Court. Did that idea come about?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: It's available on podcasts. Well, the Queen Supreme Court was
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: originally the Queen's Court. It was something that my former
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: co host, uh and myself used to do together. Um,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: and even though she and I party ways, I continue
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: to uh, you know, re revamp the rebrand the show
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: into you know, a social commentary show. And uh, it's
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: become very influential in popular car. It was always influential,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: influential in popular culture, but it became you know, a
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: different staple in popular culture where or you know, most
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: celebrities comming, they we we we talked about the things
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: that are going on in the world, like current events
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: and stuff. And you know, I shall sponsorship packages for
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: the show. Um, My fans are always you know, supporting
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: me or whatever. But the most of the biggest thing
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: about it is I'm able to sell sponsorship packages to
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: money making conversation. I love talking to you. I love
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: talking to you. It was about it's about you know,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: being able to market yourself and realize their money, real
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: financial opportunities that are out there. But you have to
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: be consistent about it. You have to be passionate about it,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: and you have to have a plan. And that's what
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: you have. You have a plan and you're consistent. And
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: like you said, I'm over the top, but that's part
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: of the brand. If you told me it was like, okay,
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't know about you. You wouldn't have five hundred
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: thousand followers. But it's not as disruptive. It's not a
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: disruptive or rude over the top. It's as a branding
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: that's entertaining. It is funny and that's what we're talking
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: about here, fun quality and tootainment. Information that makes you smile. Yes, Yes,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: I love you. Yes. I thought we're gonna get together
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: to this pandemic doe down. They won't. You know, Let's
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: transition over there. Let's transition over there because of the
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: fact that we know the community, African American community, and
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: we're also gonna talk about the HIV community, it's been
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: just tearing up black people. Is impacting your community as well,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. Because of the fact that we
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: have U we have a situation where now they're starting
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: to wear they wear masks. And what role are you
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: playing as far as trying to guide the proper information
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: in your community. Well, in my community, you know, it's
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: very important that we cover UM HIV and AID using
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: the HIV and aids and things of that nature. You know,
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: I'm always talking about UH prep. UH PREP is UH
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: is a drug that that's administered the people who are
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: who are actually active that can prevent them from UM
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: even becoming intersected with the HV or eight virus and
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: if And I also make sure that I've encouraged people
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: in my community that might have been that might be
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: affected by it to you know, continue to take their
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: their medications, you know, so that they can remain to
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: have an undetectable um UH status. And I'm no different
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: with the situation with the COVID nineteen, Like I'm afraid
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: like this, this this virus, you know, popped up out
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: of nowhere. I really believe that it was already here.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: And then I think we all have been affected by
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: maybe back some time last year and either uh December
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: November November December time frame. This this virus is over here.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: It was just our our leaders as we were all
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: just want to use the word leaders, chose not chose
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: to ignore it because it would have impacted the stock market.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: And so now we have a you know, when I
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: look at it, you know, this is a national broadcast,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 1: and just let everybody know. When the April came out
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: in the CDC announced that you know, eight out of
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: tend COVID nineteen UH patients were African American or black.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: That was a frightening number. And then when the when
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: the State of Georgia decided to reopen and that's when
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: it could be reopened, knowing that information meant that they
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: had no plan for that's they had no plan for
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: White America to or reopened prop properly, and they didn't
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: care how it affected the Hispanic community, the black community,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: any community of color. And so that really, really that's
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Your role in my role, my role
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: as well as to be at front, I do a
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: lot of interviews on h general market stations, and I
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: try to be honest about this whole situation because of
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: the fact that you gotta mask up, you gotta wash
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 1: your hands. Is this you know, this is now because
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: now we're sending young people out there. Thought they were immortal,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: Now they're being effected. That you have to social distance.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 1: You have to do that. You know, it's imperative. And
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: when I see people, even in my camp, being reckless
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: and and party partying and and and not and not
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: taking this pandemic serious, I'm like, hey, are you not
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: looking at the numbers this stuff? Like like people are
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: really dying from this from this situation. People are dying,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: And like, how are you How are you not paying
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: this stuff in your attention or how are you not
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: following the rules of the godlines of it? You know,
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: I've been in quarantine. The only place I've been at
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: the grocery store at home. That's it. You know, you
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: and I could be dating because that's what I do too, Okay,
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: because I don't really I go to you know, it
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: always amazes me t s when I go on the
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: grocery store, I um, I I see people no mask
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going like, okay, did you not get the memo?
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: And then I've seen these videos of people white people
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: angry when they've been told mask, trying to knock the
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: bully their way the mall mark. I saw some videos
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: where this lady took all her food out of her
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: grocery bass and just threw it on the floor. People
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: throw food at people. Hey, hey, they they will give
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: you a mask to wear. But the problem is they
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: don't want to be told what to do and and
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: and right now they're feeling like that the mask and
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: the social distancing and the quarantine is some conspiracy theory
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: um for the government to control people. And I'm like,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: do you not see that this stuff? Like people are
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: really sick and dying out here, Like I do feel
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: like that they're there are small pieces of of this
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: pandemic that is a little bit you know, hyped up,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: just just a bit. But I do believe that this
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: is really going on because one, um, it did affect
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: business for everyone, like we're working from home. Everybody's working
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: from home now, and and and for entertainers like myself
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: who traveled my because I traveled my show as well,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: I lost gigs, I lost the pier and says, you know,
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: I was not able to you know, show up and
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 1: meeting greet with my fans. And you know, I lost
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: lots of money from speaking engagement and everything else. I
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: still had to know how to survive, you know, during
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: this pandemic, and a lot of people we're trying to
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: find a way to survive during this during the pandemic.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: This is why some of them, as I was saying earlier,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: you know, touched into the the only fan situation because
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: that was the quickest way that they could make some money.
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: You know from what you know what what's what's one
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: of those Rodey Hulk quote. You got to use what
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: you got to get what you need. There you go,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: we we we jumped in a little bit about the
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: Queen Supreme Court. Now, how do you get your guests like?
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: I see Tam Tamar Braxton and who's crazy anyway? Lounell
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: the original gangster of comedy Female wise? Then you okay,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: now see you get me jealous now because I I
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: was able to get me lou Nell. But I I
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: definitely not have no Nicki minage and no Tamar practice.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: So you're out there bawling with these guests, my friends. No,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: I've been on Nicki Minaj's show. Nicki Minaj was very
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: much interested in UM, you know, producing the first phase
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: of the show, and she and I continue to be
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: friends after that. UM didn't work out, but you know
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 1: she and my girlfriend. I've had Candy Burst on the show. Kay,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: oh my god, choir from American Medicine. Doctor heavily from
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: American Medicine. UM. I've had a lot of social media influencers, Uh,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: oh my god, Slay Monroe, my girl flame mon Role
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: has been on the show. Uh. So many different guests
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: come in and out of there, and I really like
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: to rotate the chair because you know, when you're doing
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: social commentary, I don't want to sit there and and
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: run the show on my own because I don't want
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: my opinion on my uh views on something to to
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: seem like it's it's the law. I like to to
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: discuss and banter and throw I love joker too out
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: of the a little. You can't be talking about no
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: jokes until I heard you tell because you know I'm
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: under the top comedians. Now. I got love for you now,
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: but you can't just come on my show and say
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: you're a comedian. What I mean not branding you right now?
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: Once I see you'm gonna bring you back on the show.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: Go this girl funny right here? Funny. Now, I can
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: use words like hilarious, you know what I'm saying, all
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, because you can be hilarious to
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: not be a standard comedian because you're actress and all
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: that good stuff. So let's talk about let's talk about
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: where do you get your celebrity gossip from on the
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: on your show The Queen's Supreme Court. Where do you
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: get your celebrity gossip from? Um? Well, I mean I
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: pulled from a different set of places like um, you know,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: and sometimes it comes just you know, natural from watching
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: watching watching watching television shows or whatever. But I get
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of my gossip from a lot of the
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: blog sites or whatever. But see the difference with me
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: is the blog sites might report on the star. I
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: will bring the star to me and go with that. Okay,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. Now. Now, now, when
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: when one comes to your show, I've hollered out and
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: screamed out some things on the show. But what is
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: what it's really the goal of your show is it?
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Is it to educate people about your brand. It's about
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: about entertaining. It's an entertainment package that you put together.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: You feel blessed to be able to present that on
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: a global because it's a global When you when you're
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: doing podcasts and social med you global. Now, this is
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: people in China watching your stuff, people in upstair, you're
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: watching your stuff, So your your global brand. I'm not
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: gonna short that shot you on that, Okay, Well, I
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: mean the goal of my show just to make people laugh,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: you know, we're laugh at the parts that are to
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: be funny, and educate them on the parts that they
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: need to be educated on, and to clear up some
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: of the maths and shade you know that might be
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: out in the streets because you know we are we
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: are a part of the urban uh urban community, you know,
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: and there are times that people there a celebrity might
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: have so bad information or a bad story about them
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: that they might want to come to my show and
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: they might want to clear up. So you know, we well,
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: this is this is the place that you can do it,
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: especially with their fans can tune in and see them,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: you know, hash out some some bad rumor that might
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: have been spread out. But my show is just all
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: all around. I want to make sure that my show
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: is it's entertaining, it's informative, and and it makes money.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that I love it
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: right there. See that's what I've been trying to get
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 1: people on the show. I would talk about money. See
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: we want on the same page about the money conversation here. Now,
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: here's the here's the philanthropic, the giving side that I
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: want to make sure people know about you. In the
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: midst of the pandemic crisis, t S has surprised families,
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: friends and others with groceries and donations to help them
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: through these challenging tis. Now why you know, I'm just
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: saying why because guess what, how much you story it
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: out like that? Why? T S? Why is that important? Well,
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: it's a into me because everybody may not know how
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: to slip a dollar there in a hard time. And
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: and there's some people that that have relied on their
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: jobs and and and what they know, like they know
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: how to get up and go to work every day
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: from nine to five. And this has been taken away
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: from a lot of people. So you know, this is
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: this is one of the luxuries that I have. It's
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: been a social media influencer and an ambassador for brands
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: and and things like that, and having my show that
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: I still am able to make money during this during
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: these times, So why not being why not help somebody
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: or help a family out that that you know have
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: lost those privileges. You know, you know it really is important.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: I you know, I I find myself because you know,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: I'm blessed. I haven't been able to lay off my
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: staff during the pandemic and they received their pay and
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: I believe in the function and not been that. The
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: Lord knows. I'm not making any money, but I'm also
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: planning to make money, and that's all want about money
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: making conversation is. And I want to ask you about
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: your your character. There was there was a question in
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: your and your I don't want to bring up when
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: ask about your larger than life possan. This is your
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  Speaker 1: comfortable with myself and feeling okay with whatever choices I
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  Speaker 1: make in life. Not being apologetic. The true me was
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  Speaker 1: able to be released. The reason I read that out
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  Speaker 1: is that that happens to a lot of people. That's
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  Speaker 1: that's that's a statement that anybody can say that struggling
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  Speaker 1: desires to be successful, we all play taxes, we all
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  Speaker 1: want to live a healthy life, we all want to
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  Speaker 1: be loved. And that's all that statement is saying right there,
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  Speaker 1: she cares now to talk about that that whole lodger
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  Speaker 1: than life possana and accepting yourself and not being you know,
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  Speaker 1: only way to truly aspire in life is to embrace
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  Speaker 1: times we we even whether we're gazed straight by trans
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  Speaker 1: or whatever, there's pieces of us that we might not
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  Speaker 1: want to grasp, we may not want to accept that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, especially with even even in even in our
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  Speaker 1: African American community, where mental health is like a big,
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  Speaker 1: big thing that that's not talked about, Like sometimes we
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  Speaker 1: have to accept like I might be a little by polar.
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  Speaker 1: I need to accept that and embrace it. And and
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: I used that by polar example because I get a
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  Speaker 1: lot of inspiration from Jennifer Lewis. And you know, Jennifer
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  Speaker 1: Lewis came out on Oprah and she was like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: by polar and I have to, you know, medicate myself
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. And and that really made me look at it,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm trans and you know, I have to I'm
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  Speaker 1: embracing this stuff or whatever. And this is not a
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  Speaker 1: crutch for me, and this is not a hinderance in
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: my life for me moving on into you know, achieving
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  Speaker 1: the goals that I want to achieve in my life.
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  Speaker 1: And when I saw Jennifer Lewis do that, I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: know this is this This just brings that statement that
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  Speaker 1: that I made there. It brings it all full circle.
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  Speaker 1: Like everybody has to embrace an extempt that part of
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  Speaker 1: them selves fully so that they can be the most
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  Speaker 1: magnificent self that they can be, so that they can
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  Speaker 1: really really embrace themselves and be successful in their life.
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  Speaker 1: Because that's the only way that you're really going to
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  Speaker 1: be successful successful in life is by fully and purely
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  Speaker 1: embracing yourself, embracing your flogs and all embracing your past,
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  Speaker 1: embracing this, embracing the things that come to you, and
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  Speaker 1: just knowing how to to to propel yourself forward and
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: and all that you do. You know, it's really interesting
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: as we talk and our interview Jennifer Lewis, and you
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  Speaker 1: know that book is a great read. Is a very
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: sexual book because she's very sexually active. Um, the Hollywood
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  Speaker 1: A love that. Okay, Now, if you if you if
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  Speaker 1: you if you're worried about reading about something, don't don't
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: read that book. It's not okay, she's just young. Point,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: but it's about the bipolar, about accepting mental health and
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  Speaker 1: all these things. Because within the black community, because you
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  Speaker 1: said that the black community, you know, we kind of
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  Speaker 1: like kick things to the curve that we really should
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• 1:46:26
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• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: it comes to COVID nineteen, it's same thing that team comming.
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  Speaker 1: not just us, anybody who was eating wrong and living
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  Speaker 1: We gotta start eating right, we gotta start living right.
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  Speaker 1: We gotta start admitting that we are not especially men,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we can want through a brick row, not
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  Speaker 1: if it's really brick. Now you need to realize and
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: so and so. But the black community is always uh Shunnedah,
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  Speaker 1: the truth and especially in the community that you are
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: part of. You know, let's let's let's step back a
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: little bit, you know, and Ellen de Generous, you know,
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: made her announcement has been so successful on TV, has
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: allowed a lot of truth to be spoken and to
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  Speaker 1: be accepted. Now, who are other great leaders out there?
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: Because she gets the most fanfare, what other great leaders
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  Speaker 1: that we should be recognizing that have been uh beside
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: RuPaul had to have to put him out there as well,
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  Speaker 1: RuPaul Um, Ellen de Generous, I mean people, or I mean,
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  Speaker 1: for me, there's something there's some people that we were
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna say suspect, but I guess we
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  Speaker 1: know it's that's a part of the community that's really
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: not vocal about it, which I really wish, which which
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  Speaker 1: I really wish they would be because it would help
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 1: more people who are struggling with themselves to be the
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  Speaker 1: greatest self that they could be. I really wish they
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  Speaker 1: would speak out. But you know, there's there's Billy porter
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  Speaker 1: Um from posts Um, There's Leverne cock Uh, there's Angelical Ross.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's uh, there's Hopes. There there's so many
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  Speaker 1: different people that are that are leaders in our community,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that have embraced themselves fully. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: here's the thing with me with with with black people
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  Speaker 1: that I want black people to know. As a black
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  Speaker 1: trans woman, I need black people to understand that I'm
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  Speaker 1: black first, baby, and I'm skill black. No matter what
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  Speaker 1: other umbrella or whatever um identity that I have, I'm
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  Speaker 1: Black first and and yes, and I try to do
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  Speaker 1: so much for my community, for my own community because
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 1: I'm black and transu and it it runs in an intersection,
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: it's intersectional. So you know, I just really really wish
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  Speaker 1: that our black brothers and sisters would really embrace us
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  Speaker 1: just a little bit more and not meet this with
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: lots of resistance because of suffing that that may not understand.
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  Speaker 1: This is why I have to applaud you, um, you
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  Speaker 1: know for even allowing me to come on your platform
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: and and just talk a little bit about you know,
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: my business and my my show and things just going on,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: because lots of times they're there are black people who
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  Speaker 1: you know, are afraid of you know, communicating or or
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: or even getting knowledge about something that that they may
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: may make them feel uncomfortable. But we have to know
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  Speaker 1: that we're all the people at the same time. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I got to bring up Laverne cox Um. She does,
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  Speaker 1: she's doing that. She's transgender, right yeah, transcer and she
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  Speaker 1: has an amazing spurt off commercial right now. She didn't
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  Speaker 1: been on. She didn't been on a bunch of stuff
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  Speaker 1: like listen, listen Laverne, Laverne is she's she's champion a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things for black trans women, and her and
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  Speaker 1: Janet Mark Janet, She's they've championed things for you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: trans women. It's just trans women of color. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I love them for the things that they do, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, their existence is so important because not only
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  Speaker 1: did it when when they champion things for for for
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  Speaker 1: trans women and people in the LBGT black people. Let
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  Speaker 1: me emphasize this black people, black and brown people of
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  Speaker 1: the LBGT community. It also opens doors for other minorities
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  Speaker 1: in the world, black people as a whole. There you go,
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  Speaker 1: was a filmmaker wants of sculpture. One is anthropologists. They
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  Speaker 1: travel the nation archiving the stories black men tell, a
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  Speaker 1: welcome the money making conversations. The man behind the Black
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  Speaker 1: Man Project Brian Ellison, Anthony Super and Malin Hall. Good morning. Well,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, thank you guys for taking the time.
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  Speaker 1: Just a little backstory on me. Um Texas native, So
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  Speaker 1: I know all are born in Fifth War Texas. You
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  Speaker 1: know third Ward born right there, and uh graduate from
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  Speaker 1: and I live in Atlanta. My headquarters in Atlanta, so
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  Speaker 1: I will read the Houston Chronicle every day. That's my base.
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  Speaker 1: And uh, I run across a great story about the
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  Speaker 1: Black Man Project, and I just felt I had to
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  Speaker 1: talk to you guys. I didn't. I read the story
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  Speaker 1: and went, wow, this is powerful, and I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: take the time to have this conversation because I know
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  Speaker 1: each one of you bring something to the story for
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: the overall concept to be successful. Brian on the phone,
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 1: and have Anthon on the phone, and have Malling on
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: the phone. Maul, and I'd like to call him Big Denver.
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  Speaker 1: If y'all don't know him, that's that's that's our live side,
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  Speaker 1: that's our little side, Big Denver. You know. For you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you if you're hear me, just drop off in
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  Speaker 1: the Big Denver. I'm really talking to Malling. Okay, absolutely
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  Speaker 1: absolutely when you're big, big time man. Everybody comes my show,
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  Speaker 1: Big time man. I know y'all got a big world.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not at Google level, but it gus. I'm good.
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  Speaker 1: So let's start it off with you, Brian, tell us
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  Speaker 1: about the black Man Project. And I'm just here everybody's
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: story because I went to the website man and I
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  Speaker 1: was emotionally drawing in. I would watch the videos. It
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, wow, that the the whole guys
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  Speaker 1: playing with the hold of the cotton and what its
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  Speaker 1: soft and if it's just a powerful concept. So just
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  Speaker 1: leaves us down that first level of the journey here,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: Brian Man, the journey started with brotherhood, camaraderie. Man, The
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: journey started with conversation between myself, Marlon and Anthony. Uh
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: the journey started with us creating space for one another
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  Speaker 1: to be vulnerable at the time and in the space
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  Speaker 1: where we all realized that's something that we all really needed.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I think we quickly understood that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if we need this, how many other brothers need this
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 1: and don't have a space for it. So, you know,
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: from there the project was birth, you know, and and
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: here we are cool. When when you still need that, Anthony,
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: what exactly is he referenced? He said, need that? What? What?
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  Speaker 1: What the spirit? Because you you know, you have to design,
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  Speaker 1: you have to your hands me to play a major
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  Speaker 1: role in your vision. What do you mean when you say, Anthony,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what do you say? Is we need to
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 1: excuse me? Anthony? Yeah, it's okay, Um yeah, no, No,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I think what Brian is referring to is
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  Speaker 1: this idea that uh So again, like this whole project
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  Speaker 1: is birth around the idea of having conversations. And you know,
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: far too many times, you know, for black men, we
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  Speaker 1: don't really sit down and have these conversations about you know,
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  Speaker 1: our emotions and things that we're struggling with on the inside,
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  Speaker 1: and also this idea of taking care of ourselves, taking
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: care of ourselves spiritually, mentally. And so when when Brian
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: is talking about the need of these conversations and this project,
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: it is something that has gone for so long unnoticed.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a lot of us are you know, suffering
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  Speaker 1: day to day and because we're so used to just
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: moving um, a lot of times, you know, we're moving
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  Speaker 1: without actually going anywhere, and so we're sparing our wills
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: in instance, when we were navigating as fathers, as husbands
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: or whatever the situation may be. And so what Brian
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  Speaker 1: is really referring to is this idea that like we
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  Speaker 1: need to untap um, we need to tap into that
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: inner self and be able to reflect and be mostly healthy. Really,
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting because I'm gonna to you maling,
• 1:57:07
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• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: just recently, my wife has always told me to stretch.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: She's and my daughter's daughter was was a professional tennis player.
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  Speaker 1: So they was always in there stretching, and and I
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: walked by and go, h, I don't have time for
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• 1:57:25
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  Speaker 1: was eighteen It was like feeling bad. I felt like
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 1: my age. Okay, I walked like my age and and
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: so and I started stretching and and that's where that's
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 1: that's the whole part of the conversation that we're talking
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: about being able to provide us with additional information that
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  Speaker 1: that up about you because you That's why I love
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  Speaker 1: when I when I was doing my research on you,
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  Speaker 1: three guys, I read the article about you, three guys,
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 1: each one you guys, it's kind of like, you know,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: if if if I just put you on like different statues,
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: you affected him motion, physically and visionary, different layers. You know,
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 1: one sees something, one shapes something, and then one goes
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 1: inside and spiritually evolves you. And then and that's what
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: that's what I've done. For me, to go in the
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: room and stretch for thirty minutes. It's something I thought
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  Speaker 1: I can never do because I'm one of those type
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: of personality people. So talk to us about that. Mala, yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: you know, anthropologically speaking, you're gonna start out with the
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  Speaker 1: Anthony Bryan. How do y'all awome time? Like when you
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: think of like how humans evolved developed, your capacity to
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: evolve is directly proportionate to your willingness to be vulnerable. Right.
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  Speaker 1: We are only as growth centered as we are available
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: to vulnerability. And we believe that vulnerability is access to
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: transformation for black men. Whereas we've been taught that we
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: should move away from things that have a semblance of
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: sensitivity or gentleness, like stretching, like crying, like accepting a
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: compliment and giving one. Yet we are finding that the
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: evolution of black men is in need of the desire
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 1: to open up to new things through vulnerability. You know
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Because we've been taught that to be
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 1: strong means um to be resistant, and to be resilient
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: means to be hard. But that ain't necessarily true, because
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: we can flow like water from one movement in our
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: lives to the next through vulnerability, and that's what we
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: believe absolutely. My wife always tells me, so people will
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: compliment me on my show early on when I first
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: started three years ago, and I would can you tell
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: them thank you when they say something nice to you
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 1: to go? Why didn't say that? Oh? And I realized
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: I was not acknowledging uh people when they would complimentary,
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 1: because what in my mindset, It wasn't my lifestyle, wasn't
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: my approach to how you do business? You know, you
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: know the the interesting thing about being a black man.
• 2:00:15
  Speaker 1: That's why I was attracted to this because of the
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 1: fact that we all know how women have evolved. The
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: best of the black female, you know, they're black female
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 1: has always been the dominant in our lives as black men.
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  Speaker 1: You know that, And but the black men has seen
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: they have set there and not evolved. And so Brian,
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: when Brian, when I look at you, and I look
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: at it, because all through you guys look differently. And
• 2:00:36
  Speaker 1: that's that's a beauty of walking in the room. You know.
• 2:00:38
  Speaker 1: It means you have different stories. That means you're gonna
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 1: send different messages different when people see you, they're gonna
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 1: perceive certain things about you and I. And that's that's
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: why I really I'm changing. I was just captivated by
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: the whole concept because you three guys didn't look like
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 1: three guys who might hang out. But but but you
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: look like three guys who were the right three guys
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: who get to get the messages I need tied to
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 1: the black Man project? Am I missing anything? Brian? Come
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: on now, I'm just I'm just talking man from a fall.
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: That's that's a really great observation, man, And and that's
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: really important that we are able to tap into like
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: all the many like angles of like a black man,
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: like somebody being able to get me and identified with me,
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 1: somebody being able to look at Marland and identified with Marlon,
• 2:01:26
  Speaker 1: and the same with Anthony. Like I feel like together
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: we just represent so many different things and black men
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: and collectively, man, we have the super strength that we
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 1: can extend bits of ourselves to them as a group.
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 1: And that's really important, you know. That's that's it's so
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: important because of the fact that Anthony your hands. You know,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 1: like here's here's a little bit about me. I was
• 2:01:52
  Speaker 1: a former stand up comic. Uh I played a musical
• 2:01:55
  Speaker 1: instruct b flat clarin that you know, they said, you know,
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 1: I had the skills that an artist, but I didn't
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 1: follow through on that. You know, guard bless me in
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 1: a lot of different ways, and he allowed me just
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 1: to focus where I felt my strength wor at every
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: morning my life. That's why a lot of people call
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 1: me a renaissance man because I pivot on you. Dude.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 1: I bake a cake, I'll give you a speech, I
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: manage your talent. I produce a TV show, I'll do
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 1: a podcast. I'm the pivot king here. Okay, I'm a
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 1: pivot this business. What you've learned is that you gotta
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 1: be able to pivot. And so that's why I love
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 1: about all three of you. Guys. See, y'all can pivot
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: three different ways. But I also know y'all are so
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 1: deep that it's more to the to the to the
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: title that I give you give you. You know what
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. I know that beyond being an anthropologist, there's
• 2:02:44
  Speaker 1: more Tomorland. There's more than Anthem you being a sculptor.
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 1: There's more to you when I say that, when you
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 1: get when when someone assumes something about you, and a
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 1: lot of people assume a lot of things about black men.
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: That's why I like this project. That's why I'm happy.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: I'm almost jealous. I'm kind of jealous too, because this
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: is a cold thing to be a part of. Anthem,
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 1: to come on that. Yeah, yeah, no, no, I mean
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: it's really interesting, interesting that you're talking about that, because
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 1: one of the problems with I guess the way the
• 2:03:18
  Speaker 1: world perceives black people, which is a conversation we've we've
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 1: we've certainly had, but we've also had within the scope
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 1: of the project, is that black people perceived as a
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 1: monolitht like we They perceived us as just one thing,
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 1: like we just echo one tone, and I think that
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: for us. You know, it's really interesting that you also
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 1: mentioned you said that like when you saw one of
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: the trailers, you said, you know, when you looked as
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: we just we look like three different men from three
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: different spears, and it almost had a sense that maybe
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't just be together in a normal situation, but
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 1: we were to write three men to have this project.
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 1: One of the one of the valuable things about this
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 1: project that we always preached to is that the fact
• 2:03:54
  Speaker 1: that we're friends, like we do like together. You know,
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: all three of us, we have a lot of commonalities
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 1: that are a will beyond the surface, and we come
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 1: from That's what makes our friendship a friendship so strong.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: That we come from different from different backgrounds, you know,
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 1: And I mean I'm personally amen awe of these two brothers,
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: Like I look at them every day and I find
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 1: out something new or I see something different. We also
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: evolve together, and so we try to implant as much
• 2:04:20
  Speaker 1: of that essence of how we do life together into
• 2:04:23
  Speaker 1: the project, and we invite the brothers to also take
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: part in life in that same way. Wow, Malan, you
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: know you know I I I sis a cool as
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 1: sense of entertainment. Flare with you, you know you you know,
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 1: spokesperson type skill. You know out there in the front
• 2:04:43
  Speaker 1: of the pack. You know what I'm saying. Black black
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: lives matter to you as well as the other two.
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 1: But I feel that you you be out there running
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: in front with the side running, everybody else tied. You
• 2:04:55
  Speaker 1: still running? Why y'all tied? I told y'all to stretched.
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 1: I told y'all to try. I tell you right, you
• 2:05:10
  Speaker 1: brought it back. Hey, mauler, man, I really you know
• 2:05:13
  Speaker 1: we're the time of I'm tell you man, the Black
• 2:05:16
  Speaker 1: Man Project. Man, how timely because you know the George
• 2:05:21
  Speaker 1: Floyd it goes on, it goes on and on. Man.
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 1: You know, all three of us, all four of us
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 1: cops stop us. We have concerns even before George Floyd. Yeah, Bro,
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And so, so when I look
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: at this project, you guys travel. The reason I think
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: is important that the travel Paul conversation I'm bringing up
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 1: is because of the fact that is it the same
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: story everywhere? Bro? We thought that it wouldn't be. We
• 2:05:48
  Speaker 1: thought that as we moved from city to city and
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 1: context to context, from Google to a dusty barbershop in Crenshaw,
• 2:05:56
  Speaker 1: that maybe there would be some difference in how man
• 2:06:00
  Speaker 1: the masks they have to wear because of how they
• 2:06:03
  Speaker 1: are seen. But it wasn't. Bro. The Googlers, these high
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: impact leaders who are moving up to socioeconomics Um Ladder
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 1: progressively had the same challenges of being black and male
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 1: as the brothers we met in the barbershops in Crenshaw.
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Um. And so what we
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 1: discover is that this is not a problem that is
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 1: driven by class as much as it's driven by a
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 1: desire for a change in culture. Culture must change. And
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 1: here's the truth, Bro, At the end of the day,
• 2:06:37
  Speaker 1: when black men can flourish as human beings, all of humanity,
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 1: the sum total of humanity, flourishes. There are contributions for
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 1: us to make as black men when we are free,
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: that will liberate the whole world in a unique way.
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: And so our work is not just about black men.
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: It begins there. Our work is to heal black men
• 2:06:57
  Speaker 1: as a means to the end of bringing transformation to
• 2:07:00
  Speaker 1: every human race. All people will be transformed when black men,
• 2:07:04
  Speaker 1: black women, when black folks get free. Absolutely, I saw Brian,
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 1: you know, Brian, I can tell he was. He had
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 1: a comment on it. So Brian, I'm not just just
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 1: do your thing, brother, what you're about to say, No,
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't. I mean, I'm in total agreeance with with
• 2:07:18
  Speaker 1: Marlon Is saying I'm just your piggyback and man, so accurate,
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 1: so true, and it's so you said something earlier, and
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 1: I just really want to take that space to the
• 2:07:30
  Speaker 1: space to say, you know, acknowledge the Black sisters man
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 1: for yes, thank you for spearheading and just being ahead
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 1: of time or being on time, because they all the
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 1: examples that we follow, you know, and they've done such
• 2:07:45
  Speaker 1: a really great space and creating space for one another.
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 1: It would be who was not to do the same.
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 1: You know, let's let's talk about the you know, when
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 1: I when I see white people marching, that that that
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 1: that that excites me because we can't win unless everybody
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 1: understands our calls, understands our pain, try to relate to
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 1: what we're sitting down. I remember, I remember after the
• 2:08:10
  Speaker 1: first weekend rioting, I had like five white friends called
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 1: me and they went, I didn't know, wow, I didn't
• 2:08:20
  Speaker 1: know that. First they asked me how you doing? You know,
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 1: because they didn't know how to get into the conversation,
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 1: they just went, how you doing? I said them five?
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 1: But what what what made me mad was that white
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 1: people have denied who we are. You know, they won't
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 1: tell people white people how we were treating this slavery
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: because that's hard. It's a hard conversation to have to
• 2:08:43
  Speaker 1: be sitting in the room and say, you know, you
• 2:08:45
  Speaker 1: treated us like this, so acknowledge it with an apology
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: of acknowledging with that you did something wrong with us,
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: so we can move on. And that's the problem that
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 1: the people are having in that transition because they were
• 2:08:59
  Speaker 1: not educated. They went from you know, the revolution Blacks
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 1: of freed in eighteen six or three, Then they went
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 1: to brown versus a board of education. Then they went
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 1: to the I have a dream speech. Then they went
• 2:09:12
  Speaker 1: to Martin Luther what excuse me, the Civil Rights uh
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 1: after I just skipped up. Yeah, so I have a
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 1: dream speech. Then the Voting Right Act. Then they went
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 1: to Martin Luther, King Assassination. Then they pretty much stopped.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 1: They pretty much stopped on Black history right there. And
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 1: so they they talked about us participating in nothing. They
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 1: didn't talk about any our inventions. They just kind of stopped.
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 1: And then we had bug Wise of every February come
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 1: out with the King and Queen calendar. That was it.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 1: That was it. That was our Black History team. So
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 1: so so when I see these young people walking out
• 2:09:49
  Speaker 1: there talking talking about holding the Black Lives Matter. I've
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 1: driving down the street and this was the street. This
• 2:09:55
  Speaker 1: a little white kids just had a Black Lives Matter sign.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 1: It stunned me so hard I forgot to blow my horn.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 1: Was what he just by himself holding up Black Lives
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 1: Matter side in the heart of the white community. Okay,
• 2:10:10
  Speaker 1: he wasn't. He wasn't in South soft even South Charger.
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 1: He was right here in Buckhead with his little side
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 1: by himself. Like you let them Sandwich signed, you know
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: where you'll be flipping him subways. Mother, he just had
• 2:10:23
  Speaker 1: his side. He was he was dancing. Black lives matter.
• 2:10:26
  Speaker 1: Black lives matter. And that's why when I saw your
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 1: project and and it was before the before they before
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 1: the before the riots happened day, which I'm so glad
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 1: they've calmed down and we're on point with the mission.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 1: The mission is to create change, so they won't be
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 1: doing all that stuff. So so so Anthony, your brother,
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: you know, Brian malland hey man, I'm so proud of y'all. Man,
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 1: what's so proud of you? So proud of you because
• 2:10:59
  Speaker 1: where this is the work that we do, like it's
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 1: the person you are, like you are an incarnation of
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 1: our work. So no need to be jealous when when
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 1: I say jealous, that's a playful jealous, you know, because
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 1: I can't because my life is my life is way
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 1: over here, and I like to be in that barber
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 1: shot because I've been in Crenshaw. I lived in l
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 1: A fifteen years, so it's not too many places in
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 1: this country. I lived in Chicago four years, I lived
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 1: in New York two years. I lived in Life, so
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 1: it's not I was a stand up comedian. I performed
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 1: in forty two of these fifty states, so it's not
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 1: too many areas I have not seen the black experience,
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: and so so I know how I felt in each state.
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 1: It was the same thing. I was a black man.
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 1: I was a black man in every state, fellas all
• 2:11:43
  Speaker 1: forty two of them. I did eighty cruise ship. When
• 2:11:46
  Speaker 1: I walked on the cruise ships, I was a black
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: man on that cruise ship. And that's unfair. And that's
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 1: why I appreciate you guys coming together with the Black
• 2:11:54
  Speaker 1: Man Project, because those story needs to be told, and
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: it has to be sold a different way because I guess,
• 2:12:00
  Speaker 1: for when a white person goes on the goes out,
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: they're just a white person. They don't feel different when
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 1: they're going to Papa does. They don't feel different when
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: they go in the city hall, they don't feel different
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: when they had stopped by the police. But black men do. Yeah,
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 1: help me, guys, help me. Is that the answers of
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: what we're talking about there with the Black Man Project
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 1: burn that is, and what will happen in the world
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 1: when that won't be the case? Like and one thing
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 1: I love about James Baldwin is how he reversed, engineered
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 1: the concept and the solution to racism. His His concept
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 1: was that racism is not necessarily black people's problem. Racism
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: is a mental illness, a mental illness that is inherent
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 1: in the experience of white privilege. And so the first
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 1: step to moving into a progressive phase for our white
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 1: friends and family members who say how can I help,
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 1: is for them to get help, to get therapy, because
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 1: you're sick. Illness it is. It's a pandemic bigger than
• 2:13:05
  Speaker 1: COVID man over the last Okay, the COVID nineteen is.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 1: We won't get into that because the fact that that is,
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: that is stemic racism p on the five top five
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 1: times any minority community. But recently, the last thirty days,
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: we've seen a lot of changes. I want to ask
• 2:13:24
  Speaker 1: each one of you guys or the question is this
• 2:13:29
  Speaker 1: something that has happened that you didn't think would happen,
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 1: would have happened or changed by but you know out
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 1: there started with you. What the last thirty days changes happen,
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 1: What shocked you the most? And one of the things
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: that change. That's a loaded question, man. But if I
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 1: had to pinpoint one thing, I don't know this brother's
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: name and it's I mean, honestly, it's it's no one
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 1: thing and that tops the other. But this is what's
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 1: like the thing that's from my mind. This brother in Mississippi,
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 1: he played for Old Myths or Mississippi State running back
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 1: and he's like, man, if y'all don't change this flag,
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play it. No. Now, you know, we
• 2:14:18
  Speaker 1: know that for these colleges, these black athletes, they are
• 2:14:22
  Speaker 1: the money for him to stand in that space, and
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 1: all the remarks that came back to him, um that
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 1: were so ugly, so negative, But he stood in the
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 1: space where a lot of people would have been afraid
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 1: to and I blocked, brother man, because now they are
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 1: in the process of doing just that. You know, and
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 1: you said it earlier, like we you thought that Barack
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 1: Obama being president would be the thing that you know,
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 1: would be the highlight of your life. Right, But you
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 1: have a state like Mississippi which is rooted in the
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 1: most extreme racism that you know. To think of the
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 1: flag that is um rooted in oppression of black people,
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 1: I just think that that itself is pretty pretty amazing, Anthony,
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: Sorry me myself, My kids are up and running around.
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 1: Um uh yeah, man, I mean I I did. There
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 1: certainly has been a large swell of where you see
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 1: a lot of the athletes speaking out, you know, Bubba
• 2:15:33
  Speaker 1: Wallace being one of NASCAR. So I'll just pick you
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 1: back in the Brian But I think man, for me,
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 1: like what really stands out is uh man, white white accompasses.
• 2:15:43
  Speaker 1: You know, like for so long people use this this
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 1: word ally, you know, to describe the the Eurocentral brothers
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: and sisters who are who have been quote unquote down
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: for the cause. And we already know that uh you know, um,
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  Speaker 1: you know, action or or or wanting to see change
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  Speaker 1: is dead without had they actual action behind it. So
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  Speaker 1: now I'm starting to see these accomplices. I mean, we
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  Speaker 1: got to the point where during the height of the protests,
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  Speaker 1: we saw whole assemblies where it was nothing for white people.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that was that was so amazing to me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, to see you know, so many of our
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  Speaker 1: I keep saying accomplices, you know, ready to go out here,
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  Speaker 1: and they were ready to put in and work for
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  Speaker 1: the cause of the black men. So to me, that
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  Speaker 1: was something I don't I don't think I would have
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  Speaker 1: ever seen, you know, um, you know, growing up seeing
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  Speaker 1: uh many of these things go on. You know, you
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  Speaker 1: just never saw that many white people ready to take up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the cause of black people and people of
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  Speaker 1: color around the world, especially for black men and black
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  Speaker 1: women out here being killed. And so that was the
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  Speaker 1: that was to me, that was that was pivotal. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you Mom. Yeah, I think the same thing like you
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  Speaker 1: know I was. I do teach yoga. I am a yogi.
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  Speaker 1: And one of the things that we believe is that
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  Speaker 1: we make investments in our country business. You know, we
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  Speaker 1: so see you see time and harvest you so see
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  Speaker 1: surprised me that I never thought would happen is that
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  Speaker 1: the conversation I've been hoping to have with my yogi's
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  Speaker 1: been having with my yogis that I'm hoping for them
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  Speaker 1: to receive is that white privilege. Um, if you gave
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  Speaker 1: up half of your white privilege, you would still have
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  Speaker 1: enough white privilege for about three generations, you know. And
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  Speaker 1: so I've been inviting my white yogis and conscious friends
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  Speaker 1: to see giving up half of their privilege as an
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  Speaker 1: investment in their consciousness. And it's happening, like people are
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 1: become are becoming keenly aware that they are responsible to
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 1: be anti racist, which is what a lot of white
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 1: folks are saying. And one thing that I've been sharing
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  Speaker 1: with them is that it's even a privilege to be
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  Speaker 1: anti racist, because if I'm anti racist, I become a martyr.
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  Speaker 1: I can get killed. When they become an anti racist,
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  Speaker 1: they become moralist. So that's what it's like to me,
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  Speaker 1: is that people are gaining moral ground and spiritual consciousness
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  Speaker 1: who are white by investing their privilege. And I'm grateful,
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  Speaker 1: well you know, um, you know, um, I'm moved by you,
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  Speaker 1: lot more. Just it can be a still camera or
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  Speaker 1: the Black Man Project documenting and brother what for a
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  Speaker 1: it has always been documented in church, it has always
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