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Interview of the Week: Grammy Awards winner, Kirk Franklin talks faith, food & music. Discusses new podcast, 'Good Words' · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: celet pretty, he is a CEO and he is an entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1: His name is Kurt Franklin. He's a six time Grammy
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Speaker 1: Award winning artist songwriter and his latest album is the
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Speaker 1: acclaimed Long Live, Long Live Love, which is his thirteenth
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Speaker 1: studio album. He released a new single and video from
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Speaker 1: the album Strong God this past summer. He's gonna show
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Speaker 1: to discuss something I'm excited to talking about his new podcast,
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Speaker 1: Good Words with Kurt Franklin almost like good News, a
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Speaker 1: new podcast series that work with people from every cross
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Speaker 1: section of life and who seek inspiration and empowerment. Blocked
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Speaker 1: this daty in February ninth, That's the date. Everybody where.
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Speaker 1: He's in conjunction with Sony Music Entertainment dropping Good Words
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Speaker 1: with Kurt Franklin on the podcast. Please work with the
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Speaker 1: money making conversation. He's my good friend. He's been in
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Speaker 1: my life man since ninety four. I'm from Houston, Texas.
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Speaker 1: He's up in that Dallas, Dallas area, Texas. Boy. Please
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Speaker 1: welcome Kurt Franklin. How you dork, Kurt, How you're doing man? Well,
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Speaker 1: welcome to my new studio, Curry. I'm trying to do it, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to step up man in my game. Man.
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Speaker 1: You know, man, you look good, brother, look good. You
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Speaker 1: got a little flex happening up in that love it.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. How you been doing? Man? You know we're
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Speaker 1: coming out of going into one. We're talking about new podcast.
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Speaker 1: But let's let's step back a little bit and talk
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Speaker 1: about because it sent me through a lot of changes,
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Speaker 1: tested my faith, tested my patience, sent me through some
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Speaker 1: emotional physical change. That game weight, loss, weight, and anxiety
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Speaker 1: is about the COVID nineteen. My family and my wife
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Speaker 1: she still won't go to in a restaurant, out in public.
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Speaker 1: She would take to go, but did she suspect of
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Speaker 1: it coming into the house. So how did it impact
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Speaker 1: your family and the people who follow you and seek
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Speaker 1: your guidance. Well, once again, man, so honored to see
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Speaker 1: you and so proud to see you continue to just
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Speaker 1: really make impact, especially in our community. Uh, to be
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Speaker 1: able to give information that that that a lot of
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Speaker 1: times were systemically hidden from us. It was part of
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Speaker 1: the plan for us to not always gather the information
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Speaker 1: or to be able to pass the information, and for
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Speaker 1: it to be transferable into the boardroom all the way
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Speaker 1: to the block. And I think that that's something that
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Speaker 1: is so needed. So I commention what you're doing. Yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: the pandemic, especially the fact that there was the word
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Speaker 1: I used, contemporaneous um several several pandemics happening at one time,
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Speaker 1: from George Floyd to to to to to um too,
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Speaker 1: our mothers and fathers getting sick and dying of the disease,
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Speaker 1: to all the the the political uprising against it, and
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Speaker 1: so UM, all of those things took a toll on
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Speaker 1: me in my family because I have a young black son,
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Speaker 1: and so UH continuing to see this uh, this this
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Speaker 1: UH hateful narrative that has been America's narrative for over
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Speaker 1: four hundred years. It's something that can be very daunting,
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Speaker 1: you know, and and it can really be fatiguing. And
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Speaker 1: so all of these things that happened at one time
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Speaker 1: in was something that continued to pull me. I had
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Speaker 1: to start going back to the UH to therapy myself.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a black man that is very proud
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Speaker 1: to UH acknowledge and promote UH psychological therapy UH psychiatry
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Speaker 1: for especially black men. But it was something that we
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Speaker 1: held onto each other as as a family, and and
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Speaker 1: it put me in a position where my faith really
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Speaker 1: had to be something that was not just priests, but
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Speaker 1: something that was lived in real time. And so that
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Speaker 1: was another chalice to really test me, to see how
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Speaker 1: much I believed and how ruded I was, and what
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Speaker 1: I was preaching and so or seeing in the doing
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Speaker 1: so is that I think that the battles were all intentional,
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Speaker 1: and I think that they were all um for our
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Speaker 1: good and to reset if we would allow it to
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Speaker 1: do that with the beauty of watching you. You know,
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Speaker 1: as a popular word in twenty the word pivot. You know,
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Speaker 1: if you can't do it live, how you do it virtual?
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Speaker 1: And you know you put concerts together, you brought people
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Speaker 1: together united, you did the verses. I believe how did
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Speaker 1: all that play into you reaching your I consider you.
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Speaker 1: I'm part of your congregation. I'm part of the Kirk
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Speaker 1: Franking compregation. And I say that because I'm not I'm
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Speaker 1: not a weekly church call. I might go to church,
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Speaker 1: you know, periodically, and I'm not saying I show up
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Speaker 1: on Eastern I showing I shot up on New Years
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Speaker 1: at Christmas. Sometimes I go with friends. But I am
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Speaker 1: a believer, and I think I'm one of your followers
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Speaker 1: because the way you approach your teachings and that's how
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Speaker 1: I can use that word. Teachings affect me positively and
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Speaker 1: your music motivates me. Do you get it a lot
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Speaker 1: from people? Second? Say that question again, please that say
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Speaker 1: do you get that a lot from people? How you
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Speaker 1: motivate them? Or a non church goers like me, you
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Speaker 1: know who believe. And I would say that's a negative
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Speaker 1: thing to the church goers. No, no no, no, no, no
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Speaker 1: no no no no. Let me let me say that
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Speaker 1: I'm honored at whatever capacity to be able to do
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Speaker 1: life with people, to to be able to be part
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Speaker 1: of people's journey for God to uh to loan me
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Speaker 1: words of music or whatever that I can borrow from him,
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Speaker 1: to just be a catalyst. Uh, That's something that I
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Speaker 1: take a great level of humility and responsibility in UM.
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Speaker 1: And it was never my intent to try to do
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Speaker 1: something that would be left of center. That was that
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Speaker 1: was that was never my attempt. I'm I'm just really
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Speaker 1: uh someone that is very sincere by my Christian faith
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Speaker 1: as well as also uh addressing all the areas of
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Speaker 1: revisionist history that has uh sometimes white washed the African
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Speaker 1: American uh sojourn through Christianity and what it was originally
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Speaker 1: and how Europe did not influence Africa, but Africa influence
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Speaker 1: Europe and uh, this monotheistic approach to faith. You know,
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Speaker 1: you're really interesting. I got another show working with business
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Speaker 1: manager stephen A Smith and you becoming. You'll be making
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Speaker 1: appearance up on one of our shows, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you know about it, on that stephen A's World.
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Speaker 1: And I was excited that we were able to bring
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Speaker 1: your voice into the arena because, you know, because Steve
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Speaker 1: and I have sat down and said, you know, that's
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Speaker 1: a voice you never see in sports, like from the
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Speaker 1: perspective of who you are and you're so unique and
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Speaker 1: how you approach a life, Kirk, and how you approach
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Speaker 1: the gospel that I feel comfortable bringing you in that
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Speaker 1: arena because the way you talk, you just talking like
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Speaker 1: a regular person. I don't know. And like I said,
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Speaker 1: when I'm talking to you, I'm talking like I'm talking
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Speaker 1: to a friend. I'm talking to a friend. That that
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Speaker 1: allows me to be ru Sean McDonald that that I
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Speaker 1: don't feel that I I know I have flaws and
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Speaker 1: you know I know how you know, well, I think
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Speaker 1: that what what what what is interesting is that for
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Speaker 1: for there to be even a conversation of what I
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Speaker 1: do to be something that has some type of unique
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Speaker 1: uh sentiment to it is. I think it is very
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Speaker 1: unfortunate because I believe that it is the pursuit of
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Speaker 1: every person that says that says that they subscribe to
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Speaker 1: a faith, especially a faith in Jesus Christ, which is
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Speaker 1: about humility, It is about vulnerability. When you look at
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Speaker 1: the Bible, and the Bible that is a chorus of
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Speaker 1: misfits and and and and failed and like failing individuals consistently,
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Speaker 1: uh that were the backdrop of this beautiful uh story
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Speaker 1: of grace and mercy. So man, you know, I and
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Speaker 1: I think that it's very unfortunate that that that we're
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Speaker 1: not being engaged that much in people's lives where they
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Speaker 1: see a difference and not just wanted to, but in
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Speaker 1: everyone that opens to them after say that. And that's
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Speaker 1: why for me, I'm hoping that even with this podcast,
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Speaker 1: it is just another extension of how I can contry
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Speaker 1: to speak to incredible man like you and and other
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Speaker 1: individuals in ways that are entertaining, engaging and inspiring. Absolutely
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Speaker 1: good words. What does that mean? Good words? With Kurt Franklin,
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Speaker 1: that's the podcast. What does that mean, there's just so
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Speaker 1: many bad ones that are There's just so many words
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Speaker 1: of negativity, there's so many words of division, there's so
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Speaker 1: many words that are lies, that are that that is
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Speaker 1: misinformation that people build their truth upon, and so now
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Speaker 1: truth becomes arbitrary, you know, and and and so uh.
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Speaker 1: Good words is something that I'm hoping people will tune
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Speaker 1: into to be able to get exactly that A a
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Speaker 1: word of information, a word of engagement, a word of
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Speaker 1: of of inspiration, so that they can be able to
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Speaker 1: be entertained. I think that that when you hear just
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Speaker 1: just the tapestry of artists and individuals that were interviewing,
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Speaker 1: it's going to be very unique to see their their
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Speaker 1: intersection of culture and faith and how we can help
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Speaker 1: other people even invented well, you know the beauty of
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Speaker 1: this conversation. That's Dad. Okay. You know I've seen you
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Speaker 1: so many levels of greatness, of greatness, you know, from
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Speaker 1: on the stage hosting TV show. You know, I love
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Speaker 1: seeing you host TV. You are you one of the
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Speaker 1: most phenomenal host and I tell you that all the time.
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Speaker 1: I love seeing your TV hosting. And and then you
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Speaker 1: got your own channel, you know, music Chunel. So why
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Speaker 1: the podcast, Mr Franklin, You know you've got all these
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Speaker 1: other ways to communicate social media, You're a giant. Okay, music,
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Speaker 1: you're giant, got your own music channel. Why do we
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Speaker 1: need a podcast. It's just another extension of communication. It
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Speaker 1: is just continuing the conversation wherever people are that that
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Speaker 1: were of their ears. There should there should be the
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Speaker 1: story of the good news. That the good news should
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Speaker 1: be whatever people are, and so we don't wait for
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Speaker 1: people to come to us to get this good news.
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Speaker 1: We are ambassadors, we are we are soldiers. We we
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Speaker 1: are extensions of of His grace, his love and with
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Speaker 1: good words. I wanted to be a place where you
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Speaker 1: can see that you're not alone. I do think that
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Speaker 1: there is this dichotomy of what it looks like to
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Speaker 1: be a real person and try to hold onto real
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Speaker 1: faith that they don't always seem to be synonymous in
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Speaker 1: people's journey. And I hope that this podcast will allow
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Speaker 1: you to get interviews from other people that that that
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Speaker 1: live with that tension, that try to maneuver through what
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Speaker 1: what my faith and my humanity should be and who
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Speaker 1: should take the lead and what happens when it doesn't happen,
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Speaker 1: and and and how I'm gonna do it through that
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Speaker 1: in my career and being able to manage success, to
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Speaker 1: manage my own fears, my own anxiety. So I believe
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Speaker 1: the good words will be a A I pray a
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Speaker 1: very special uh place for people to come on that platform.
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Speaker 1: Here's just the interesting thing about Kurt frank I know
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Speaker 1: one side of Kurt. I know it backwards and forward.
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Speaker 1: Now there's what type of food this Kurt Franklin like
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Speaker 1: the Are you a barbecue man? Or you are pizza man,
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Speaker 1: a hamburger man? Or you just shot? I like to
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Speaker 1: stay in shape. What are you, key Don? What are
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Speaker 1: what are you? Brother? What are you? Is? I eat
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Speaker 1: really clean, try to eat really cle Krispy cre No
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Speaker 1: Krispy Kreme. No Krispy Kreme. I haven't at Krispy Kreme
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Speaker 1: and a few years. But but but but but now
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Speaker 1: as I do have cheat days, okay, I do have
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Speaker 1: cheap days, and in my cheap days, I do go
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Speaker 1: ham right. But but I think the problem that we
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Speaker 1: is that this pandemic. Bro, this pandemic has messed up
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Speaker 1: to eat right. But you know earlier, owning that pandemic,
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Speaker 1: and so you just ate the whole grocery store and
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Speaker 1: now okay, that's that. That's there. Now, how about music
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Speaker 1: other than gospel music? What R and B music are
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Speaker 1: rap music? Do you listen to Kirk Franklin Old school
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Speaker 1: or new school? I listened to everything. I am a
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Speaker 1: student of the craft. I listened to everything from Jasmine
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Speaker 1: it's the funny point by my get my car. Here's
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Speaker 1: my first three songs, okay, because you know I'm old
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Speaker 1: school Kurt, you know the melodies from Heaven. I gotta
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Speaker 1: I gotta you know, I gotta have that. That that
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Speaker 1: if I get my car by five o'clock in the
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Speaker 1: morning coming to my office, So that gets me on fire. Okay.
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Speaker 1: Then I go to rock Star by the Baby. That's
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Speaker 1: that's my whole genre, you know, my and so and so.
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Speaker 1: Then I then I go to Kim, you know, uh
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Speaker 1: and so so, and then I that slowed down a
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Speaker 1: little bit more with Anthony Hamilton's that's my first fourth
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Speaker 1: songs in my podcast, in my in my excuse me,
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Speaker 1: and my in my player on my truck. When I
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Speaker 1: want to start rolling, what would be your first four songs,
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Speaker 1: Kurt not putting yours? My first fourth songs, first fourth
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Speaker 1: song mineus melodies from Heaven the Baby with rock Star.
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Speaker 1: Then I slide into Kim like Sharlene from Anthony Hamilton
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Speaker 1: and my first four songs. It's I can say that
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Speaker 1: I am that that consistent in in that process. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's some mornings I'll listen to, you know, a a
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Speaker 1: teaching podcast. The first thing in the morning, you know,
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Speaker 1: is I may listen to some old school you know,
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Speaker 1: Walter Hawkins, uh, you know, uh under a cracker, or
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Speaker 1: is I may listen to something to give me lit
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Speaker 1: my way to the gym. You know, I'm saying it
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Speaker 1: could be a Drake record, It could be a a
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Speaker 1: you know EVERYBN rock Kim record. It could be you know,
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Speaker 1: you know jay Z record. There you go, you know,
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Speaker 1: so so you know it is that I have a
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Speaker 1: I have a big appetite for music man, and one
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Speaker 1: doesn't win over the other. Well, you know, when when
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Speaker 1: we look at good Word for Kurt Franklin and then
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Speaker 1: the press really came out, they mentioned your interview with
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Speaker 1: for Real, you know, just to give a sense of
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Speaker 1: the type of talent or celebrity level that will be
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Speaker 1: part of the show. Why is it important to for
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Speaker 1: individuals like for Real to not only discuss their faith
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Speaker 1: but also tell the side of the story that's not
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Speaker 1: entertainment driven or selling albums and movies or things. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: I think that's even more important now because there were
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Speaker 1: we are at this crossroads that in in American culture,
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Speaker 1: American society, and even in our belief systems, that that
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Speaker 1: that that these that during this pandemic is going to
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Speaker 1: change the trajectory of how people process what is real
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Speaker 1: and what matters. And a lot of times the people
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Speaker 1: that have impacted culture more than others may be the
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Speaker 1: greater microphone of how to be able to navigate through
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Speaker 1: those things as well as being able to give another
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Speaker 1: side so that we can be able to start we
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Speaker 1: can be able to start fixing a lot of the
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Speaker 1: holes that have been in what people consider organized religion,
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Speaker 1: that we can pull down some of the barriers, so
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Speaker 1: that we can be able to even uh uh even
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Speaker 1: trying to articulate more misinformation that has been passed down
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Speaker 1: generationally to people of color, and and to be able
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Speaker 1: to also unpack the weaponization of Christianity, to be able
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Speaker 1: to uh to understand that Western Christianity and the teachings
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Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ are not synonymous necessarily and so uh
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Speaker 1: and and and then also how people maneuver through their
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Speaker 1: temptations of successful Gussie, there's trauma already being an African American,
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Speaker 1: but there's an extra layer of trauma when you become successful.
19:36
Speaker 1: Success brings its own level of trauma. When you say
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Speaker 1: reoponization of Christianity, what exactly you referencing in that? And
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Speaker 1: not trying to be negative, I'm just just trying to
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Speaker 1: get a clear definition of what you mean say that.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, well well when you look at um,
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Speaker 1: when you look at the colonizes, everything was was was
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Speaker 1: from the from the bibliocentric land and of misinformation and
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Speaker 1: revisionist history where where where it was weaponized to uh
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Speaker 1: keep people marginalized, to keep people oppressed, to uh, to
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Speaker 1: even create a misogynistic tone to women's roles, even in Christianity.
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Speaker 1: And so when you weaponize something, it uh you become
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Speaker 1: a very authoritarian in your approach to what God is,
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Speaker 1: because God will be whatever it's beneficial to the one
20:31
Speaker 1: that holds the weapon or or or the tool that
20:35
Speaker 1: could be used for good or bad. It's almost like fire.
20:37
Speaker 1: Fire is good for cooking, it's good for being able
20:40
Speaker 1: to keep people warm and comfortable, but out of control,
20:43
Speaker 1: it can burn down the city. And so that's what
20:46
Speaker 1: Christianity throughout history, from from the Crusades onto the trans
20:51
Speaker 1: Atlantis slave trade, there were times where uh where you
20:55
Speaker 1: had you even had chaplains on the slave ship. Absolutely
21:00
Speaker 1: had white chaplain's on on the slaveship. So so so
21:05
Speaker 1: that does not mean that there's something uh intuitively wrong
21:11
Speaker 1: with with the message of Jesus Christ. It's been something
21:15
Speaker 1: uh intrinsically wrong with a lot of those that have
21:19
Speaker 1: been the microphones to be able to proclaim that faith.
21:24
Speaker 1: You know, when I when I when I talk about faith,
21:26
Speaker 1: the fifth song that I have all that I listened
21:28
Speaker 1: to him. We lost him in a friend of our
21:33
Speaker 1: your mine. Uh. Something about the name Jesus and you know. Um,
21:39
Speaker 1: and I remember our interviewed. I think the second time
21:41
Speaker 1: he was on my show. I didn't realize you wrote
21:43
Speaker 1: that song. He said, yeah, I wrote that, and and
21:47
Speaker 1: that that. You know, whenever I went that song is
21:50
Speaker 1: so important to me. Whenever you know somebody's down, Kirk,
21:54
Speaker 1: I sent it to him. Somebody has a depth in
21:58
Speaker 1: the family, I sent it to him. They don't know
22:01
Speaker 1: how to find direction in their life. I sent it
22:04
Speaker 1: to him. Um, give us the thought process in writing
22:08
Speaker 1: a song like that and didn't get it produced and
22:11
Speaker 1: having an amazing artist like him, you know, And it's been,
22:15
Speaker 1: it's been. It's been remade by a couple of young
22:17
Speaker 1: ladies and I've heard that version. I like their version too.
22:19
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. And so talk about that process behind
22:22
Speaker 1: that song. Well, you know, it's not much of a
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Speaker 1: a headline story, uh. The the the inception of that song.
22:38
Speaker 1: It was just a song that dropped in my head
22:40
Speaker 1: that I that I thought would be a nice moment
22:43
Speaker 1: and reached out to Ranch, Allen Um and men a
22:48
Speaker 1: Standard because I wanted to take the old school and
22:50
Speaker 1: new school and proad together. And it was just so.
22:54
Speaker 1: It's a song God gave me, and and the genius
22:57
Speaker 1: of Ranch Allen watching him coming to the studio and
23:00
Speaker 1: to be so so much of a surgeon, like he's
23:04
Speaker 1: a surgeon behind the like and and and to be
23:08
Speaker 1: able to see him be uh so fluid in his
23:13
Speaker 1: gift was a beautiful thing to the whole. And so
23:17
Speaker 1: it was a moment that I'll never forget. And it
23:19
Speaker 1: was and it was it was a It was a
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Speaker 1: song that would have never known at the time that
23:24
Speaker 1: would have impacted people and touch people the way it did,
23:27
Speaker 1: would have never would have never seen that coming. Well,
23:30
Speaker 1: you know, I saw the story that rants came into
23:33
Speaker 1: my life of BT Celebration of Gospels. You know Steve
23:36
Speaker 1: Harvan that was there every year with you guys, and
23:38
Speaker 1: it was he performed it on stage with you, and
23:41
Speaker 1: that was the first time I heard it. It's something
23:43
Speaker 1: magical because we hear music a lot, but when you
23:46
Speaker 1: hear a song from the very first word and the
23:49
Speaker 1: stage with you, and it builds with you, and it
23:52
Speaker 1: takes you through these emotional up and downs. And at
23:55
Speaker 1: the end of that song, when I heard it live
23:58
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles doing that tape, I was in tears.
24:01
Speaker 1: And and it wasn't a negative tearing. It was a
24:04
Speaker 1: positivity of of of an awakening inside of yourself. Because
24:10
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you something, Kurt. When I talk to you, man,
24:11
Speaker 1: it's always you know, you're such a gifted young man.
24:15
Speaker 1: And I say young because I'm older than you, and
24:17
Speaker 1: and I say that because sometimes you're so humble that
24:20
Speaker 1: the impact you make on people of all ages needs
24:24
Speaker 1: to be in some ways glorified, because you change people.
24:27
Speaker 1: You change the way I get up, You change with
24:29
Speaker 1: my family, impacts my wife, she goes to church. I
24:32
Speaker 1: don't you know, my daughter gonna go to church. And so.
24:35
Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean I I failed to believe in
24:38
Speaker 1: God lesser. But I know that the story I'm trying
24:41
Speaker 1: to get you allow me to tell it my way.
24:44
Speaker 1: And that's what you're doing with uh. I believe when
24:47
Speaker 1: you're dropping this podcast good Words with Kurt Franklin, you're
24:50
Speaker 1: it's just another expression of communication. Like you're saying, reaching
24:54
Speaker 1: people and telling them your story and then sharing other stories,
24:57
Speaker 1: kind of like when I'm doing with money making conversations.
24:59
Speaker 1: I'm allowing the story, but in this lane, And that's
25:03
Speaker 1: really important, isn't it exactly? And thank you again and
25:07
Speaker 1: I'm just extremely appreciative to be able to be part
25:11
Speaker 1: of just a a fragment of the journey that people's
25:16
Speaker 1: UH lives continue to take them on, and that the
25:21
Speaker 1: music has allowed them to be able to see a
25:24
Speaker 1: greater God in the midst of some of the deepest
25:27
Speaker 1: and darkest days that they may go through. And and
25:30
Speaker 1: even with the podcast, it is there needs to be
25:33
Speaker 1: so many different conversations that could happen at the same
25:37
Speaker 1: time that that every platform does not give you the
25:41
Speaker 1: freedom to have that conversation where there may be more
25:44
Speaker 1: intellectual conversations that can happen through the podcast, that may
25:48
Speaker 1: be a lot more foolishness that I can have fun
25:51
Speaker 1: with and enjoyed the podcasts, And so uh, it just
25:55
Speaker 1: gives you a liberty that you don't have on stage.
25:57
Speaker 1: It gives you a liberty then you don't have in
26:00
Speaker 1: a recording studio. You are being able to now engage
26:05
Speaker 1: a different side of a person's life that they did
26:07
Speaker 1: not really see their faith then, because you know, some
26:10
Speaker 1: people's faith a lot of times it's still like a
26:13
Speaker 1: spare time. It's something that they pull they something they
26:17
Speaker 1: pull out when they need it, and it's not the
26:21
Speaker 1: fabric of their daily existence. So they get frustrated when
26:26
Speaker 1: they see it not work and something like well where
26:28
Speaker 1: is God? God don't work? I don't see in it's life. Well,
26:31
Speaker 1: it's very difficult to be able to tap into what
26:35
Speaker 1: God is and what He will do if it's only
26:40
Speaker 1: a non one one situation that he continues to be
26:44
Speaker 1: postured in when it comes to your life. And so
26:46
Speaker 1: hopefully it does. Even good words will that you hear
26:49
Speaker 1: from other people that you don't see in church all
26:52
Speaker 1: the time, you don't see in church platforms give you
26:55
Speaker 1: a lens of where they are, the good, the bad,
26:58
Speaker 1: the ugly in their life and where God has stood
27:01
Speaker 1: in Wow. So we last year because of the pandemic,
27:05
Speaker 1: you couldn't do your all do a festival. How are
27:07
Speaker 1: this year? I know there's Texas that's where you're based
27:11
Speaker 1: with the festival. How is it looking at something you
27:14
Speaker 1: produce that you book it's all out of your production company,
27:17
Speaker 1: which I love to talk about. We talked about that
27:19
Speaker 1: last time. Becoming a true entrepreneur? Uh, controlling your destiny?
27:24
Speaker 1: How does it look for oh man? You know we
27:28
Speaker 1: we we will see where God leaves. I'm I had
27:32
Speaker 1: learned in my time on this earth, you know, wil
27:37
Speaker 1: while I'm visiting, is that you can make the plans,
27:42
Speaker 1: but God at times last, you know, And so you
27:45
Speaker 1: have to make sure that you are surrendering your dreams
27:49
Speaker 1: and making sure that each Because here's the thing that
27:52
Speaker 1: I really believe about my faith. And again, I'm not
27:56
Speaker 1: only sure to try to proselytize. Yeah, I'm here be
28:00
Speaker 1: because I am a product of grace, of God's grace
28:02
Speaker 1: and mercy. That's the only reason why I get to
28:04
Speaker 1: be part of great platforms like this, you know. And
28:07
Speaker 1: because I'm cute, even though I am cute, that is
28:10
Speaker 1: not what God? Uh what that that that that that
28:15
Speaker 1: we have to understand man, that what we believe should
28:19
Speaker 1: be transferable, That it shouldn't be something that just stays
28:23
Speaker 1: with us and dies with us. That it should be
28:26
Speaker 1: something that can be part of the fragment of people's
28:30
Speaker 1: daily existence. And we haven't done that well as as
28:34
Speaker 1: people of faith. We've only made Sunday morning and a
28:37
Speaker 1: Sunday suit the epitome of what believing is. And so
28:42
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that with everything that I'm able to do,
28:45
Speaker 1: whatever God calls me for this year is that I
28:49
Speaker 1: want to make sure that my dreams and our distractions,
28:52
Speaker 1: and so that the only way to know how to
28:54
Speaker 1: do that is to take my dreams and filter them
28:57
Speaker 1: through my faith. We know the interesting I'm a little
29:00
Speaker 1: shift here. Melanie Holt was on my show recently and
29:03
Speaker 1: uh she hosts a show called Behind every Man and
29:07
Speaker 1: you on the show and it was and you know,
29:09
Speaker 1: I get I get access to everything now. You know,
29:11
Speaker 1: I'm moving up in the food chain, not Kirk. You
29:13
Speaker 1: know they get early for everybody everything. Now you're on
29:18
Speaker 1: there with your your beautiful wife. Just like I mentioned
29:20
Speaker 1: my wife and how important she is to me, how
29:22
Speaker 1: I was important to do a show like that because
29:25
Speaker 1: Behind every Man tells us her story and the impact
29:28
Speaker 1: that she has on your life and that you have
29:30
Speaker 1: on your life and the faith as well. I was
29:32
Speaker 1: important to do that show with your wife. Well, it
29:35
Speaker 1: was just important for me for people to get a chance,
29:38
Speaker 1: like I'm always looking for moments to showcase and celebrate
29:42
Speaker 1: this incredible woman who has always lifted me up, and everybody,
29:47
Speaker 1: uh not at all times got a chance to see Tanny,
29:51
Speaker 1: and I want to be able to celebrate her when
29:53
Speaker 1: when there's a platform that comes My way is because
29:56
Speaker 1: I want people to understand that I am what I
29:59
Speaker 1: am because of her. It is God using her as
30:04
Speaker 1: the conduit that that that that all his blessings slow.
30:08
Speaker 1: Because if I was a single man, I probably would
30:10
Speaker 1: not be the most integral or the most responsible because
30:15
Speaker 1: I would probably still be doing with single man at
30:17
Speaker 1: times do and so a lot of times when you
30:21
Speaker 1: live that life, you are blocking the conversation and the
30:27
Speaker 1: covering that God wants to give us because He's not
30:30
Speaker 1: going to give you the keys to something that you're
30:32
Speaker 1: going to drive into a wall. Wow. Good works for
30:37
Speaker 1: the good words with with Kurt Franklin. That's right, just
30:40
Speaker 1: on podcast platforms including Apple, Spotify, and Stitcher. Uh, Kurt,
30:45
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. Man. You know,
30:46
Speaker 1: I always appreciate you man taking the time to talk
30:49
Speaker 1: to Rashan McDonald man because uh, I know you're busy. Man.
30:52
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to just trying to thank you. Thank you,
30:57
Speaker 1: But you more that man, You inspire me and that
31:00
Speaker 1: and that's why whatever you come on this I gotta
31:02
Speaker 1: remind you. Man. You know, I know, I know people
31:04
Speaker 1: look at me as being very successful, but behind that
31:07
Speaker 1: success and like I said, in a certain situation. There
31:10
Speaker 1: is a good woman, but they're also good friends. And
31:13
Speaker 1: uh and your friend, and I know that uh your music.
31:17
Speaker 1: May you may not be talking to me as an individual,
31:20
Speaker 1: but brother, you've saved me a many a day. Man.
31:23
Speaker 1: You've saved me when I'm on the road and I
31:25
Speaker 1: didn't know where to go. You've saved me when I've
31:27
Speaker 1: been down and thought I was the only person in
31:29
Speaker 1: this world. You've saved me when I've been successful. You've
31:32
Speaker 1: saved me. And a lot of people says, successful, how
31:34
Speaker 1: can you save you? Because sometimes you need direction when
31:37
Speaker 1: you're successful, because you don't have nowhere to turn. And
31:39
Speaker 1: so that's the layers of life that you've given me.
31:42
Speaker 1: Since you've been into my life, been in my life,
31:44
Speaker 1: and I've been there. We've done TV shows together, we've
31:46
Speaker 1: done concerts together, we've done radio shows together. So I
31:49
Speaker 1: know the relationship we have is beyond just music. And
31:53
Speaker 1: thank you again for coming on money Making conversation Man,
31:55
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