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Israel-Hezbollah Ceasefire-What it Means & Why it Happened Now · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Center.
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Speaker 2: Ted Kruz, Ben Ferguson with you, and we are doing
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Speaker 2: this show right now in the middle of some seriously
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Speaker 2: interesting and big breaking news potentially Center, and that is
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Speaker 2: that there is a ceasefire agreement. As you and I
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Speaker 2: are doing this show, we are about three hours away
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Speaker 2: from that ceasefire officially quote unquote taking place. It'll happen
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Speaker 2: four am officially with Israel. Your initial reaction to that.
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Speaker 3: Well, the ceasefire is major breaking news. After fourteen months
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Speaker 3: of active war between Israel and Hesbelah, that war is
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Speaker 3: going to come to a conclusion today. The Biden White
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Speaker 3: House is taking credit for it, is celebrating it as
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Speaker 3: a major victory, and there's no doubt this is a
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Speaker 3: serious defeat for Hesbela in many respects. This is a
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Speaker 3: victory for the people of Israel. At the same time,
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Speaker 3: we're gonna break down what exactly it means, because there's
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Speaker 3: more to this than meets the eyes, and we're going
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Speaker 3: to explain that. We're going to talk about why this
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Speaker 3: ceasefire was signed right now, why it was signed in
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Speaker 3: the transition between Biden and Trump, and what are the
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Speaker 2: So let's talk about the timing of this big announcement.
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Speaker 2: It was very clear that Joe Biden wanted this this
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Speaker 2: very well, maybe his last big moment as president in
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Speaker 2: the Rosegarden. He was wanting to take major credit for
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Speaker 2: this deal getting done and saying, well, now it's time
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Speaker 2: for Israel to kind of move on past killing terrorists.
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Speaker 3: Well, this war, this active and hot war between Israel
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Speaker 3: and Hesbela, has been waging for fourteen months now, and
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Speaker 3: it happened on October seventh, a year ago, when Hamas
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Speaker 3: attacked Israel, murdered over twelve hundred Israelis and in the
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Speaker 3: greatest mass murder of Jews in a single day since
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Speaker 3: the Holocaust. Immediately after that, Hesbela so Gaza Hamas attacked
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Speaker 3: Southern Israel. Gazas in the southern part of Israel. Lebanon
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Speaker 3: is to the north and Hamas and Hesbela are two
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Speaker 3: separate terrorist groups, but they're both proxies of the nation
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Speaker 3: of Iran. They're both funded by Iran. Both Hamas and
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Speaker 3: Hesbela receive over ninety percent of their funds from Iran,
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Speaker 3: and so. Once Hamas carried out October seventh in southern Israel,
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Speaker 3: Hesbela responded by launching thousands and thousands of missiles into
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Speaker 3: northern Israel, and as a consequence, Northern Israel has evacuated.
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Speaker 3: Tens of thousands of Israeli citizens have evacuated from northern Israel,
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Speaker 3: have been evacuated for many, many months, unable to go
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Speaker 3: to their homes because Hesbela has been raining rockets onto them,
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Speaker 3: and so Israel responded with overwhelming force, taking out Hesbela's leadership,
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Speaker 3: taking out many, many of their terrorists, devastating their infrastructure.
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Speaker 3: And today they announced a ceasefire. Now, Joe Biden announced
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Speaker 3: the ceasefire from the Rose Garden, and Biden said, let
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Speaker 3: me quote quote, Let's be clear, Israel did not launch
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Speaker 3: this war. The Lebanese people did not seek that war either,
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Speaker 3: nor did the United States. Security for the people of
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Speaker 3: Israel and Lebanon cannot be achieved only on the battlefield.
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Speaker 3: And that's why I directed my team to work with
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Speaker 3: the governments of Israel and Lebanon to forge a ceasefire,
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Speaker 3: to bring a conflict between Israel and Hesbela to a close. Now,
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Speaker 3: I got to say, that's an infuriating statement. We're gonna
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Speaker 3: play more of it in just a second, but it's
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Speaker 3: an infuriating statement because it continues the Biden administration's practice
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Speaker 3: of drawing an equivalence between Gosh, you know, hesbel is
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Speaker 3: in the wrong, Israel's in the wrong. They're just all
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Speaker 3: in the wrong, and wise old me is going to
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Speaker 3: tell them to put down their arms. Let's be clear,
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Speaker 3: it wasn't Israel that invaded Gaza. It was Hamas that
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Speaker 3: invaded southern Israel and murdered twelve hundred civilians, raped women
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Speaker 3: and little girls. Let's be clear, it wasn't Israel that
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Speaker 3: invaded Lebanon. Rather, it was Hesbola that launched thousands and
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Speaker 3: thousands of rockets, murdering civilians into northern Israel. In terms
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Speaker 3: of who launched this war, it was not Israel. And well, okay,
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Speaker 3: look you've heard me say that. Listen to Joe Biden
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Speaker 3: talking in the Rose Guard.
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Speaker 4: Getting all this done will require making some hard choices.
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Speaker 4: Israel has been told, has been bowled on the battlefield.
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Speaker 4: Iran and proxies have paid a very heavy price. Now
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Speaker 4: Israel must be bold and turning tactical gains against Iran
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Speaker 4: and as proxies into a coherent strategy that secure Israel's
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Speaker 4: long term. It's long term safety and advance is a
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Speaker 4: broader peace and prosperity in the region. Today's announcement is
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Speaker 4: a critical step in advancing that vision, and so I
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Speaker 4: applaud the crazy decision made by the leaders of Lebanon
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Speaker 4: and Israel to end the violence. It reminds us that
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Speaker 4: peace is possible. Say that again is possible. As long
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Speaker 4: as that is the case, I'll not for a single
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Speaker 4: moment stop working to achieve it. God bless you all.
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Speaker 4: Sorry to keep you waiting so long. May God protect
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Speaker 4: our troops. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Iran and its proxies have paid a very
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Speaker 2: heavy price, so therefore, stop killing terrorists. That's a weird
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Speaker 2: doctor in coming from the President of United States of America.
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Speaker 1: Am I wrong?
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Speaker 3: You're not wrong? And let's start with the utter incoherence.
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and every Democrat in the Senate,
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Speaker 3: in the House together work together to send over one
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Speaker 3: hundred billion dollars to Iran to the Iyatola Kamenie, Joe
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Speaker 3: Biden and Kamala Harris and congressional Democrats have been the
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Speaker 3: greatest friend Hesbel and Hamas have ever had. Why is
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Speaker 3: that because they flooded one hundred billion dollars into Iran,
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Speaker 3: and Iran put much of that money into Hamas into
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Speaker 3: Hesbela funding their terror war against Israel, and Joe Biden
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Speaker 3: doesn't put any of the fault at the feet of
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Speaker 3: the terrorists. Instead, he lectures Israel and look, look I
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Speaker 3: got to say today in response to this deal, I
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Speaker 3: put out a lengthy statement and I just want to
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Speaker 3: I want to share my statement with you because there's
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Speaker 3: quite a bit of substance in it, and want I
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Speaker 3: want to read it and then we'll talk about what
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Speaker 3: it means. Here's the statement I put out today. Our
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Speaker 3: Israeli allies have accomplished enormous military successes over the last
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Speaker 3: year against the Iranian controlled terrorist group Hezbolah, killing thousands
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Speaker 3: of Hesbela terrorists, eliminating Hesbela's entire command, and dismantling its
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Speaker 3: infrastructure across Lebanon. These actions have directly contributed to vital
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Speaker 3: American national security interests, including directly by liquidating terrorist leaders
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Speaker 3: who had the blood of hundreds of Americans on their hands. Indeed,
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Speaker 3: the US Israel relationship is at the core of US
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Speaker 3: interest in the Middle East. An American policy should be
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Speaker 3: to provide unequivocal military and diplomatic support to our Israeli
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Speaker 3: allies to fully ensure their security. However, the Biden administration
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Speaker 3: is spent the last four years pathologically obsessed with undermining
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Speaker 3: Israel and boosting Iran, including by coursing our Israeli allies
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Speaker 3: to cede maritime territory to Hesbela. They are now using
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Speaker 3: the transition period to the Trump administration and a Republican
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Speaker 3: Congress to try to lock in these efforts and to
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Speaker 3: constrain the incoming administration by establishing what they believed to
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Speaker 3: be irreversible diplomatic, legal, and military policies. However, these and
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Speaker 3: similar international policies are not irreversible. This month, I let
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Speaker 3: a letter co signed by ten other senators saying that
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Speaker 3: the US will fundamentally reevaluate our relationship with United Nations
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Speaker 3: and the Palestinians if Palestinian President of Boas fulfills the
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Speaker 3: pledge he made to secure Israel's expulsion from the UN
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Speaker 3: General Assembly. Last week, I joined my colleagues in vowing
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Speaker 3: to act against the International Criminal Court for undermining American
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Speaker 3: and Israeli interest by issuing arrest warrants for Israeli leaders,
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Speaker 3: and said everyone involved in the decision should face American sanctions.
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Speaker 3: I am deeply disturbed both by reports that Obama Biden
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Speaker 3: officials exerted enormous pressure on our Israeli allies to accept
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Speaker 3: this cease fire, and by how those officials are characterizing
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Speaker 3: Israel's obligations. This pressure and these statements our further efforts
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Speaker 3: to undermine Israel and constrain the incoming Trump administration. Obama
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Speaker 3: Biden officials pressured our Israeli allies into accepting the ceasefire
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Speaker 3: by withholding weapons they needed to defend themselves and counter Hesblah,
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Speaker 3: and by threatening to facilitate a further order binding international
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Speaker 3: arms embargo through the United Nations. Obama Biden officials are
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Speaker 3: already trying to use Israel's acceptance of this ceasefire to
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Speaker 3: ensure that Hesbela and other Iranian terrorist groups remain intact
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Speaker 3: across Lebanon and to limit Israel's future freedom of action
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Speaker 3: and self defense. Administration officials, including Secretary of State Blincoln,
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Speaker 3: today even downplayed Israel's right under the ceasefire to strike
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Speaker 3: terrorist groups in Lebanon when those groups pose imminent threats.
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Speaker 3: These constraints have been rejected by our Israeli allies. Prime
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Speaker 3: Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said that under the ceasefire, Israel
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Speaker 3: retains full freedom of action to counter Hesbelah if the
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Speaker 3: group attacks Israel or tries to rebuild its terrorist infrastructure.
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Speaker 3: The United States should allow and assist Israel in doing so.
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Speaker 3: And I am committed to working with the Trump administration
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Speaker 3: in my colleagues in the incoming Congress to ensure that
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Speaker 3: they are able to do so.
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Speaker 2: You look at that statement, and it is so one
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Speaker 2: pint eighty from the policy that we're hearing from this administration,
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Speaker 2: their ideology. They're saying it now publicly, which is, well,
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Speaker 2: we don't like it when you guys kill too many terrorists.
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Speaker 2: What's the right number. I mean, that's a real question.
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Speaker 2: I think you have to add about all of them, right.
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Speaker 2: But they're saying basically, and I go back, basically, let's
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Speaker 2: go back the exact quote from Joe Biden. Iran and
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Speaker 2: its proxies that paid a very heavy price. He's saying
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Speaker 2: to Israel, all right, guys, you killed enough of them,
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Speaker 2: I think, so let the rest of them live. How
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Speaker 2: is that possible for Israel to survive?
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Speaker 1: Senator?
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Speaker 2: If this is the mentality that the large part of
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Speaker 2: the American government believes is what success or failure looks.
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Speaker 3: Like, and understand when Biden says Iran has paid a
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Speaker 3: heavy price to literally, while he's saying that, Joe Biden
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Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris are refusing to enforce the oil sanctions,
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Speaker 3: and so they're flowing billions of dollars to Iran right now.
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Speaker 3: That is going to end on January twentieth. One of
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Speaker 3: the most significant things the incoming Trump administration is going
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Speaker 3: to do is immediately and vigorously enforced the oil sanctions,
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Speaker 3: which will bring crushing economic pressure to Iran. But anyone
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Speaker 3: who thinks that Iran, you know, Kamala Harris said in
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Speaker 3: the Sixty Minutes interview that the greatest national security threat
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Speaker 3: was to Iran to America was from Iran. And of
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Speaker 3: course sixty Minutes, because they were sick of fans for
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Speaker 3: the administration, didn't ask the obvious question, if they're greatest
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Speaker 3: national security threat, why are you giving them a hundred
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Speaker 3: billion dollars? I don't understand people don't generally pay to
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Speaker 3: arm the people who want to murder them. That she
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Speaker 3: was never forced to answer. But even today, Joe Biden
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Speaker 3: the Democrats continue to fund Iran. That will change on
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Speaker 3: January twentieth. An understand look. On one level. The Wall
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Speaker 3: Street Journal had an op ed today saying what a
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Speaker 3: tremendous victory this was for Israel because Hesbelah is incredibly weakened,
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Speaker 3: and that is unquestionably true. And it is up to
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Speaker 3: Israel to make a decision whether or not to enter
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Speaker 3: this ceasefire. They made the decision to do so. But understand,
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Speaker 3: a big, big part of the reason Israel made this
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Speaker 3: decision is because the Biden administration put enormous pressure on
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Speaker 3: Israel by cutting off weapons and threatening to cut off
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Speaker 3: more weapons. And in fact, at a press conference here's
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Speaker 3: what Prime Minister net and Yahu said were the reasons
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Speaker 3: to support the deal. He laid out three reasons. Number one,
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Speaker 3: to focus on the Iranian threat, number two, to provide
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Speaker 3: an opportunity to refresh the Israeli forces, and number three
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Speaker 3: to separate Hamas from the Northern Front. Now understand, number
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Speaker 3: two is basically saying, well, the Americans have cut off
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Speaker 3: our weapons and so we've got to do this cease
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Speaker 2: their leadership, which was to force them into a cease fire.
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Speaker 2: he said on.
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Speaker 5: That potential ceasefire deal joining us now. Israeli government spokesman
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Speaker 5: in the Office of the Prime Minister, David Menzer, really
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Speaker 5: good to have you.
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Speaker 6: Thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 5: Is this a permanent deal or a temporary deal?
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Speaker 7: Look, the length of the cease fire depends on what
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Speaker 7: happens inside Lebanon. We will certainly, from Misral's point of view,
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Speaker 7: adhere to the agreement, but we will also insist on
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Speaker 7: the agreement being enforced. We will respond forcefully to any violations.
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Speaker 7: So with the US's understanding, we will make taking the
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Speaker 7: full freedom of military action.
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Speaker 6: Yes, of course, we want our.
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Speaker 7: People to go home to their homes in sovereign Israeli territory.
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Speaker 7: But if, as what our violates the agreement and tries
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Speaker 7: to rearm, we will attack. If it tries to rebuild
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Speaker 7: its terrorist infratrac infrastructure near the border, we will attack.
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Speaker 6: And the Prime Minister's made crystal clear.
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Speaker 7: If it launches rockets, if it digs tunnels, if it
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Speaker 7: brings in truckloads of rockets, we will attack. We all
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Speaker 7: want peace in this region, no one more than Israel,
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Speaker 7: but we will respond forcely, forcibly to any violation of
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Speaker 7: this agreement.
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Speaker 6: Does that go for.
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Speaker 5: The other side as well? If Israel comes back and
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Speaker 5: re arms itself and resets for a possible future escalation,
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Speaker 5: possible future escalation in Lebanon, is that a violation of
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Speaker 5: the agreement?
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Speaker 1: I just kind of stop and get your reaction there.
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Speaker 2: It's amazing how the media here is acting like Israel
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Speaker 2: as a terrorist organization. They should be held the same
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Speaker 2: standards as a terrorist organization, Like, well, hold on a second,
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Speaker 2: if you're gonna hold terrorist's standards Israel, are you guys
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Speaker 2: gonna not you know, arm yourself again. Israel is doing
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Speaker 2: this in a defensive manner because they've been attacked from
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Speaker 2: all sides, and yet NBC is asking a question like
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Speaker 2: they're a terrorist group.
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Speaker 3: That may be the most astonishing question I've ever heard
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Speaker 3: a reporter say in my life. I want you to
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Speaker 3: play that play just the final question again. I want
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Speaker 3: you to hear it, because this is staggering that this
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Speaker 3: is Do you have the name of this reporter?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is on Katie Tour's show NBC slash MSNBC.
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Speaker 2: And again here's that question, as she acts like Israel
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Speaker 2: as a terrorist organization.
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Speaker 1: Does that go for the other side as well?
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Speaker 5: If Israel comes back and re arms itself and resets
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Speaker 5: for a possible future escalation, possible future escalation in Lebanon,
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Speaker 5: is that a violation of the agreement?
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Speaker 2: I mean, and people wonder why the media, Yeah, no
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Speaker 2: one has any faith in them anymore.
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Speaker 3: And understand Katie Ture was a star reporter for NBC.
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Speaker 3: She was embedded with the Trump campaign in twenty sixteen.
21:11
Speaker 3: She now has her own show on MSNBC. And what
21:15
Speaker 3: an absurd question is the agreement violated if Israel re
21:20
Speaker 3: arms itself, Katie, Israel is a sovereign nation. Israel is
21:24
Speaker 3: entitled to defend itself. There's nothing in this agreement. I mean,
21:28
Speaker 3: listen to the idiocy of Well, doesn't this agreement say
21:31
Speaker 3: that Israel cannot have an army, can't defend itself, has
21:35
Speaker 3: to be utterly defenseless. Why, Well, they committed the horrible
21:38
Speaker 3: crime of existing when Hamas came in and murdered twelve
21:42
Speaker 3: hundred innocent civilians. Like, there is a reason that we
21:47
Speaker 3: did an episode early on after October seventh, that is
21:49
Speaker 3: actually one of my favorite episodes entitled CNN is Hamasa's
21:55
Speaker 3: Air Force. So is MSNBC, so is ABC by the way,
21:58
Speaker 3: you want to go back, And that's one of the
22:00
Speaker 3: episodes we put on YouTube. It's a video episode and
22:04
Speaker 3: you can watch it because we play about a dozen
22:06
Speaker 3: different clips where the corporate media is the pr arm
22:11
Speaker 3: of Hamas. Well, there is MSNBC being the pr arm
22:15
Speaker 3: of Hesbela, saying, well, wouldn't it violated if Israel re
22:18
Speaker 3: arms itself. No, Israel has a right to defend itself
22:23
Speaker 3: and to keep the people of Israel safe, and they
22:25
Speaker 3: are not the equivalent as apparently MSNBC seems to think
22:29
Speaker 3: of the terrorist organization some Amas and Hesbela that target
22:33
Speaker 3: and murder civilians.
22:34
Speaker 2: I wish, by the way, I could say that this
22:36
Speaker 2: is the worst for Katie in this interview. Listen to
22:38
Speaker 2: the response from the Israeli government spokesman and then the
22:41
Speaker 2: follow up to this about why the timing has happened
22:46
Speaker 2: now for this deal to be done, and that's where
22:49
Speaker 2: Israel basically kind of says like, yeah, it's the Biden
22:52
Speaker 2: administration's fault because they didn't give us what we need
22:54
Speaker 2: to defend ourselves.
22:55
Speaker 7: Listen, of course, not Casey, Israel's a sovereign country, not
22:59
Speaker 7: the organization we're talking about a chezebla, a terrorist organization
23:04
Speaker 7: in my country. But also last time I checked in
23:06
Speaker 7: your country, to Katie, they're a terrorist organization. They're our enemy.
23:10
Speaker 7: That make no mistake, they're your enemy and the States
23:13
Speaker 7: as well. So we of course at Israel will defend ourselves.
23:16
Speaker 7: That's our rights like any other country in the world,
23:19
Speaker 7: to defend ourselves. But if this terrorist organization begins to
23:23
Speaker 7: prepare another attack against us, we will defend ourselves.
23:28
Speaker 6: Israel reserves that right.
23:30
Speaker 5: Is this contingent upon the US unfreezing a weaponshipment, specifically
23:35
Speaker 5: those one ton bombs that Israel had been using so effectively.
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Speaker 7: Well, look, the Prime Minister made clear just before a
23:44
Speaker 7: couple of hours ago that the reasons why this has
23:47
Speaker 7: happened now are three reasons. It's because we want to
23:49
Speaker 7: focus now on the Iranian threat. The premises don't want
23:53
Speaker 7: to expand on that, but we know that Iran is
23:56
Speaker 7: preparing to create a nuclear weapon.
23:59
Speaker 6: We cannot let that happen.
24:01
Speaker 7: We will always make that our number one priority because
24:04
Speaker 7: Iran say they wish to wipe this country off the
24:06
Speaker 7: face of the earth, Katie, when they say it, we
24:09
Speaker 7: believe it. And the second reason, of course is to yes,
24:13
Speaker 7: give our forces a breather and to replenish our stocks,
24:17
Speaker 7: and there have been big delays. The Prime Minister made
24:19
Speaker 7: that clear that yes, the US is our closest ally
24:22
Speaker 7: in the world.
24:23
Speaker 6: There are no too.
24:24
Speaker 7: Closer countries anywhere in the world. But there have been
24:27
Speaker 7: big delays in weapons and munitions deliveries. The Prime Minister
24:30
Speaker 7: made that clear, and these delays we hope will be resolved.
24:35
Speaker 6: Very very soon.
24:36
Speaker 7: But really the third reason for this ceasepy now is
24:39
Speaker 7: to separate As. The Prime Minister said that fronts and
24:43
Speaker 7: isolate Humas. From day two of this war, Hamas was
24:47
Speaker 7: counting on Hesbealata fight by its side. That was a
24:51
Speaker 7: massive miscalculation. With Hesbela now out of the picture, Hamas
24:55
Speaker 7: is left on its own and Israel can increase our
24:58
Speaker 7: pressure on Hamas, get.
25:00
Speaker 6: Our hostages home, which is our sacred mission. It's on
25:03
Speaker 6: number one priority.
25:05
Speaker 2: I mean you hear it there. They're still like, hey,
25:09
Speaker 2: you guys, let us hang out to dry. The Biden
25:11
Speaker 2: administration did this on purpose. We need this.
25:13
Speaker 1: We got to wait for Trump to come in.
25:16
Speaker 3: Well, and that's why this cease fire happened now. As
25:18
Speaker 3: the Biden White House put enormous pressure on Israel to
25:21
Speaker 3: accept this deal, Israel did, and it is rational for
25:24
Speaker 3: Israel to make the decision focusing on Hamas, cutting Hamas
25:27
Speaker 3: off from Hesbela. That is a major strategic step forward.
25:31
Speaker 3: And so I understand why the deal was attractive. But
25:34
Speaker 3: the deal is also this White House is a It
25:37
Speaker 3: was prompted by this White House for extended periods of
25:40
Speaker 3: time cutting off weapons to Israel.
25:42
Speaker 1: But b.
25:44
Speaker 3: Joe Biden and Kamala Harrison, the Democrats are trying to
25:47
Speaker 3: tie Israel's hands, and they're trying to do it before
25:50
Speaker 3: the Trump administration comes into office. And so what I'm
25:53
Speaker 3: trying to make clear is nothing in this deal ties
25:56
Speaker 3: Israel's hands to protect itself, to defeat and kill terror Understand, Literally,
26:02
Speaker 3: on the day of October seventh, the Biden administration was
26:05
Speaker 3: saying publicly, do not retaliate militarily. They have been saying
26:10
Speaker 3: every day since October seventh happened, stop killing terrorists. And
26:15
Speaker 3: Israel to its credit, and I got to say the
26:17
Speaker 3: Prime Minister spokesman there, I think did a fantastic job
26:21
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26:24
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Speaker 2: to this other topic, and we talked about this the
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Speaker 2: other day on the show, but I want to lay
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Speaker 2: it out for people.
28:50
Speaker 1: Maybe you miss this.
28:51
Speaker 2: The mayor of Denver, he's like begging to get arrested.
28:57
Speaker 2: He's just he's a martyr and he's I've said this
29:00
Speaker 2: about illegal immigrants and sanctuary cities to remind everybody.
29:05
Speaker 8: About civil disobedience. You've mentioned that a couple of times now.
29:08
Speaker 8: Would you be willing to participate in those as the
29:10
Speaker 8: mayor of Denver? Would you be willing to go out
29:12
Speaker 8: and protest these things?
29:13
Speaker 9: I would if I believe that our residents are having
29:16
Speaker 9: their rights violate. If I think things are happening that
29:18
Speaker 9: are illegal or immoral or an American in our city,
29:21
Speaker 9: I would certainly protest it, and I would expect other
29:24
Speaker 9: residents would do the same.
29:25
Speaker 8: Trump's new borders are Tom Homan has said that he
29:28
Speaker 8: is willing to arrest leaders like yourself for standing in
29:34
Speaker 8: the way of these policies that they want to enact.
29:37
Speaker 8: Would you be willing to go to jail for these things?
29:39
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not afraid of that, and I'm also not
29:42
Speaker 9: seeking that. I think the goal is we want to
29:43
Speaker 9: be able to negotiate with reasonable people how to solve
29:47
Speaker 9: hard problems. Republican and Democratic presidence in the past have
29:50
Speaker 9: all tried to find solutions to these problems. President Reagan
29:52
Speaker 9: help people get access to work so they could stay
29:54
Speaker 9: and support themselves. Biden Harris worked on restricting entry at
29:57
Speaker 9: the border to close down There are a lot of
29:58
Speaker 9: ways to approach this problem. We don't think it has
30:00
Speaker 9: to come to this, but yeah, I think and you
30:02
Speaker 9: look at you know, Ralph Carr has always been one
30:04
Speaker 9: of my heroes. He was the governor who in the
30:06
Speaker 9: middle of the interment of Japanese Americans, said this was
30:08
Speaker 9: the wrong thing to do, and he stood up. It
30:10
Speaker 9: was unpopular, people were mad at about it. That was
30:12
Speaker 9: in the middle of wartime. If the president or any
30:15
Speaker 9: of his actors are going to do things that we
30:16
Speaker 9: think are illegal or immoral or an American, we'll stand
30:19
Speaker 9: up against those now.
30:20
Speaker 1: Center what did you call him? Again? Just for people
30:23
Speaker 1: that may have missed it the other day.
30:25
Speaker 3: A modern day bull Connor. Bull Connor was yet another
30:28
Speaker 3: elected Democrat who hated federal law, in this case, hated
30:32
Speaker 3: federal civil rights law, who stood up and defied federal
30:35
Speaker 3: civil rights law and said we're going to continue to discriminate,
30:39
Speaker 3: We're going to continue to be prejudiced. Well, in this instance,
30:42
Speaker 3: you have the mayor of Denver saying he's going to
30:44
Speaker 3: continue to favor illegal aliens to defy federal immigration laws.
30:48
Speaker 3: He's going to continue to endanger the families of Denver.
30:51
Speaker 3: If you actually care about your children in Denver, well,
30:54
Speaker 3: the mayor's telling you you're not his priority. You're his
30:57
Speaker 3: priority is protecting the Venezuelan gang members, the murderers and
31:01
Speaker 3: rapists who've been released into his community, that he's working
31:03
Speaker 3: for them and not for you. And the absolute smug
31:08
Speaker 3: arrogance and condescension by the way he analogizes himself to
31:11
Speaker 3: people standing up to Japanese internment camps. There's of course
31:15
Speaker 3: a rich irony to that, because the Japanese internment camps
31:18
Speaker 3: were opened by FDR the hero of the Democrats. It's
31:22
Speaker 3: the Democrat Party that it's over and over and over again.
31:25
Speaker 3: You go back to the eighteen sixties. It was the
31:26
Speaker 3: Democrat Party that founded the Ku Klux Klan. It was
31:29
Speaker 3: the Democrat Party that wrote the Jim Crow Laws. It
31:32
Speaker 3: was the Democrat Party that created the Japanese internment camps.
31:35
Speaker 3: And it was the Democrat Party that were the party
31:38
Speaker 3: of Bull Connor and and the Dixiecrats who stood up
31:41
Speaker 3: and fought against civil rights. And I got to say,
31:44
Speaker 3: the mayor of Denver is continuing a proud tradition.
31:47
Speaker 1: Well.
31:48
Speaker 3: In response to his boast, Tom Homan went on on
31:52
Speaker 3: hat hennity and actually responded and said, well, okay, you've
31:56
Speaker 3: offered to be arrested. Well we'll take take a listen
31:58
Speaker 3: to what Tom Homan had to say.
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Speaker 10: Response, Tom, you heard you heard this mayor out there
32:06
Speaker 10: in Colorado. I want to get your reaction to it.
32:09
Speaker 10: And I want you to be clear about who is jurisdiction,
32:12
Speaker 10: the federal government or state and local governments. And if
32:15
Speaker 10: you're a sanctuary state or city, are you breaking the law?
32:18
Speaker 6: Absolutely breaking law?
32:19
Speaker 11: All yes to do to look at Arizona versus us USC.
32:22
Speaker 6: He the's breaking law.
32:23
Speaker 11: But look me and the Denver mayor we agree on
32:25
Speaker 11: one thing.
32:26
Speaker 6: He's willing to go to jail.
32:27
Speaker 11: I'm willing to put him in jail because there's a statue,
32:31
Speaker 11: it's Title eight in United States called thirteen twenty four
32:34
Speaker 11: trouble Ive and what it says is is a felony
32:37
Speaker 11: if you knowing me, Harbor concealed and Immigration authorities is
32:41
Speaker 11: also a family to impede federal law forced officer. So
32:44
Speaker 11: if you don't to help, that's fine, he can get
32:46
Speaker 11: the hell all the way.
32:46
Speaker 6: But we're going to go do the job.
32:48
Speaker 11: President Trump has a mandative American people. We got to
32:51
Speaker 11: secure this country, we got to save American lives. And
32:54
Speaker 11: I find it shocking any mayor of a city would say,
32:57
Speaker 11: President trusts, be clear, we want a consentry on public
32:59
Speaker 11: safety threats and national security thrusts. I'd find it hard
33:01
Speaker 11: to believe that any mayor or government would say they
33:03
Speaker 11: don't want public safety trusts remove from their neighborhoods. I mean,
33:07
Speaker 11: I mean, I don't know what tell is going on
33:08
Speaker 11: in Denver, but we're gonna go and we're gonna fix
33:10
Speaker 11: it if you don't want to fix it, if you
33:11
Speaker 11: don't want to protect his communities.
33:13
Speaker 6: President Trump and Ice.
33:14
Speaker 2: Will I love just how a matter of fact, and
33:17
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a big change coming and they're
33:20
Speaker 2: not going to screw around with these mayors and let
33:22
Speaker 2: them continue to defy the law. I think that's a
33:24
Speaker 2: smart move to say it early on. This is the line.
33:27
Speaker 2: You either abide by the law or you don't, and
33:29
Speaker 2: there will be consequences.
33:31
Speaker 3: Well, look that that is exactly right, that you don't
33:34
Speaker 3: have a right to defy federal law. You don't have
33:36
Speaker 3: a right to obstruct federal agents carrying out federal law.
33:40
Speaker 3: And end, by the way, to be clear, this this
33:42
Speaker 3: Democrat mayor is bluffing. He's talking tough. I think I
33:46
Speaker 3: think his words are empty. And in just a couple
33:51
Speaker 3: of months we're going to see, uh, We're going to
33:53
Speaker 3: see proof.
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