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Gen. Milley throws Biden under the bus! it proves ‘Biden Lied’: Sen. Blackburn Calls for POTUS to Resign over Afghanistan Debacle! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden lied, and we now have confirmation that Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden lied to the American people in that George Stepanopolis
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Speaker 1: interview about the exit strategy and the plan for Afghanistan.
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Speaker 1: General Mark Millie has also come out and said that
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Speaker 1: our credibility is being intensely quote unquote reviewed by our
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Speaker 1: allies around the world. Now, this is all coming out
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Speaker 1: of these conversations on Capitol Hill, the first time we've
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Speaker 1: been able to question General Millie. And what is even
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Speaker 1: more disgusting is the fact we found out that their testimony,
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Speaker 1: what they were going to say, was not even given
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Speaker 1: to Congress until like ten thirty at night before the
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Speaker 1: hearing started. All right, now, before I get into more
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Speaker 1: of this, I do need to ask you guys to
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Speaker 1: a quick review wherever you're listening to this podcast. Now,
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Speaker 1: let's go back to the reasoning behind why they waited
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Speaker 1: till ten thirty at night, the night before their testimony
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Speaker 1: to give their official testimony to Congress, right so you
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Speaker 1: can look over it to ask more questions about what
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Speaker 1: they're going to tell you. Apparently, the reason why they
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Speaker 1: did this is because the White House wanted to vet
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Speaker 1: their testimony first before they even send them over to
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Speaker 1: Capitol Hill. The reason why they're now claiming is because
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Speaker 1: the White House wanted to vet their testimony because they
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Speaker 1: knew that there was a very good chance apparently that
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Speaker 1: General million others were not going to lie on behalf
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Speaker 1: of the President United It's America when it came to
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Speaker 1: our exit strategy. Now, there is a lot to break
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Speaker 1: out here. Diez marked that three two one. There is
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Speaker 1: a lot to break down here. I want to start
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Speaker 1: with something else that is totally insane and shocking, and
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Speaker 1: US Center Marsha Blackburn is going to join us in
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Speaker 1: a moment to talk about this. We now know that
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Speaker 1: General Millie, instead of actually trying to get Americans out
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Speaker 1: of Afghanistan, having a strategy to get us out of Afghanistan,
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Speaker 1: making sure that we had adequate protection on the ground
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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. He was spending time undermining and dogging President
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Speaker 1: and then former President Donald Trump. Apparently anyone who was
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Speaker 1: writing an anti Trump book had unfeathered access to the
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Speaker 1: Joint Chief Chairman who would give them information to make
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump look bad? How bad was it? I want
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Speaker 1: you to hear these questions to General Millie confessing under oath, Yes,
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Speaker 1: that he leaked all the time to book authors about
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump. General Milly, Yes or no to this. Did
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Speaker 1: you talk to Bob Woodard or Robert Costa for their
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Speaker 1: book Peril Woodward, you ask cost or no? Did you
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Speaker 1: talk to Carol Leonick and Philip Rucker for their book
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Speaker 1: Alone Can I Fix It? Yes? Did you talk to
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Speaker 1: Michael Bender for his book Book is Frankly we did
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Speaker 1: win this election? The inside story of how Trump lost? Yes? Yes?
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Speaker 1: And were you accurately represented in these books? I haven't
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Speaker 1: read any of the books, so I don't know. I've
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Speaker 1: seen press reporting of it, I haven't read the work.
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Speaker 1: Let's have you read the books and then let us
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Speaker 1: know if you are accurately appreciated and portrayed. Happy that
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Speaker 1: this is just totally mind blowing. You have General Milly
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Speaker 1: literally confessing, yes, I leaked to book authors about Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: In other words, anybody that hated Donald Trump, call me.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you everything you want to know about this guy.
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Speaker 1: This is the man who's supposed to be serving under
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Speaker 1: the President of the United States of America. Now, instead
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Speaker 1: of actually getting game plans together to get Americans out
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Speaker 1: of Afghanistan, this is the crap that he was pulling,
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Speaker 1: doing interviews after interview background and leaking to different members
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Speaker 1: of the media who were writing books. Now, that's not
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Speaker 1: the only shocking part here that people need to understand.
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Speaker 1: If he was doing this to people writing long form books,
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Speaker 1: how much information was he leaking to just everyday reporters
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Speaker 1: writing articles in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal,
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Speaker 1: the Washington Post. The list could go on and on
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Speaker 1: and on and on and on. I'm genuinely curious. And
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Speaker 1: he's not the only one that was under questioning. Secretary
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Speaker 1: Austin quote, we didn't fully comprehend the depths of corruption
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Speaker 1: and poor leadership in Afghanistan. This is the reason why
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Speaker 1: he's now claiming things went badly in Afghanistan. Let's just
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Speaker 1: deal with that for two seconds, you're dealing with the Taliban, folks,
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Speaker 1: a terrorist organization that's worked with the worst people in
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Speaker 1: the world. Isis, al Qaida, isis K, the list goes
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Speaker 1: on and on. They'll work with the Iranians, They'll work
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Speaker 1: with anybody that would help them blow up Americans. They deceive,
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Speaker 1: they lie, they steal, they blow people up, they dismember people,
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Speaker 1: they'd behead people. This is what they do for a living.
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Speaker 1: They don't exist without this type of behavior, make no
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Speaker 1: mistake about it. Okay, they don't. I mean, they literally
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Speaker 1: do not exist, okay without this being their identity. We
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Speaker 1: blow buildings up, we blow Americans up. We're killing us
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Speaker 1: some people. We behead people, we cut people's arms off,
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Speaker 1: we kill Christians, we enslave women. This is what we do.
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Speaker 1: And now we have Secretary Austin Lloyd, Austin Defense Secretary
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Speaker 1: on the record now saying well, I mean, one of
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Speaker 1: the reasons why things when bad in Afghanistan is because
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Speaker 1: we didn't fully comprehend the depths of corruption. I could
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Speaker 1: have told you the depths of corruption. Hell, General Millie,
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Speaker 1: some of the people you were leaking to in these
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Speaker 1: books about Donald Trump have written books about the corruption
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Speaker 1: Afghanistan and the Middle East and afg and Taliban and
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Speaker 1: ISIS and isis K and the list goes on and on.
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Speaker 1: If this is like new news to you, that you
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Speaker 1: that there's corruption in Afghanistan, even with the leaders and
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Speaker 1: the military and the leaders in the government and the Taliban,
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Speaker 1: I don't care what side you're on, You're not paying attention.
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Speaker 1: We knew there was corruption. Everybody knows there is massive
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Speaker 1: corrupt in the government. The government by the way that
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Speaker 1: we supported and propped up. We knew there was corruption
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Speaker 1: because well, those guys want to live by the way,
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Speaker 1: they had to deal with the Taliban, right, they were
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Speaker 1: playing both sides. They were playing America's side as long
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Speaker 1: as we protected them more than the Taliban protected them.
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Speaker 1: And then as soon as America cut and run and
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Speaker 1: they knew that America was leaving, they made their new
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Speaker 1: best friends, which used to be their enemy, the Taliban
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Speaker 1: their best friends. We knew it. This is how it
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Speaker 1: works in the Middle East. This is not confusing, because
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Speaker 1: this is how it's always worked in the Middle East.
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Speaker 1: So for the Secretary of Defense to come out and
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Speaker 1: act like, you know, breaking news, I'm shocked we had
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Speaker 1: no idea how corrupt and how poor the leadership in
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Speaker 1: Afghanistan actually was. So therefore, it's really not our fault
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Speaker 1: that we left Americans behind. It's not our fault that
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Speaker 1: we trusted the Taliban, a terrorist organization, to quote give
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Speaker 1: Americans safe past the airport, which they didn't do. It's
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Speaker 1: not our fault that we decided to give up Kabul
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Speaker 1: when we could have trolled the entire area. It's not
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Speaker 1: our fault that we gave up Bob Gram Air Base
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Speaker 1: when we shouldn't have done that until we got every
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Speaker 1: American out to give overwatch and give air support in
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Speaker 1: case the Taliban decided to screw with us. It's not
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Speaker 1: our fault. We just didn't see it coming. We didn't
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Speaker 1: fully comprehend the depths of corruption and poor leadership in Afghanstan.
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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, how stupid are you? Qually is due
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Speaker 1: in large portion, in large part to our planning and
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Speaker 1: prepositioning of forces. As for the mission's end, my judgment
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Speaker 1: remains that extending beyond the end of August would have
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Speaker 1: greatly imperiled our people. In our mission, the Taliban made
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Speaker 1: clear that their cooperation would end on the first of September,
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Speaker 1: and as you know, we faced grave and growing threats
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Speaker 1: from I's k so staying longer than we did would
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Speaker 1: have made it even more dangerous for our people and
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Speaker 1: would not have significantly changed a number of evacuees we
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Speaker 1: could get out. So as we consider these tactical issues today,
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Speaker 1: we must also ask ourselves some fully tough questions about
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Speaker 1: the wider war itself and pause to think about the
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Speaker 1: lessons that we've learned over the past twenty years. Did
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Speaker 1: we have the right strategy? Did we have too many strategies?
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Speaker 1: Did we put too much faith in our ability to
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Speaker 1: build effective Afghan institutions, an army and air force, a
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Speaker 1: police force, and government ministries. We helped build a state,
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Speaker 1: but we could not forge a nation. The fact that
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Speaker 1: the Afghan army that we and our partners trained simply
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Speaker 1: melted away, in many cases without firing a shot took
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Speaker 1: us all by surprise, and it would be dishonest to
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Speaker 1: claim otherwise. We need to consider some uncomfortable truth that
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Speaker 1: we did not fully comprehend the depth of corruption and
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Speaker 1: poor leadership in their senior ranks, That we did not
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Speaker 1: grasp the damaging effect of frequent and unexplained rotations by
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Speaker 1: President Ghani of his commanders that we did not anticipate
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Speaker 1: the snowball effect caused by the the deals that the
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Speaker 1: Taliban commanders struck with local leaders in the wake of
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Speaker 1: the Doha Agreement, that the Doha Agreement itself had a
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Speaker 1: demoralizing effect on Afghan soldiers, and that we failed to
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Speaker 1: fully grasp that there was only so much for which
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Speaker 1: and for whom many of the Afghan forces would fight.
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Speaker 1: We provided at the Afghan military with equipment and aircraft
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Speaker 1: and the skills to use them, and over the years
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Speaker 1: they often fought bravely. In tens of thousands of Afghan
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Speaker 1: soldiers and police officers died, but in the end we
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Speaker 1: couldn't provide them with the will to win, at least
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Speaker 1: not all of them. And as a veteran of that war,
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Speaker 1: I am personally reckoning with all of that. There. It
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Speaker 1: is so hey, you know what, Sorry, we thought we
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Speaker 1: did everything we could. Apparently, you know, we just didn't
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Speaker 1: see it all coming really. General Millie, by the way,
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Speaker 1: also admitting Biden's Afghan evacuation was a quote strategic failure, failure.
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Speaker 1: His words, strategic failure. If these are the guys that
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Speaker 1: we're supposed to be trusting to deal with the Chinese,
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Speaker 1: the Russians, and every other around the world. We are screwed.
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Speaker 1: The President called this entire retrograde operation an extraordinary success.
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Speaker 1: General Miller, in his testimony disagreed with that assertion. General Millie,
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Speaker 1: was this Afghanistan retrograde operation and extraordinary success. There's there's
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Speaker 1: two operations, Senator, just yes or no. I have a
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Speaker 1: lot of questions. Was this an extraordinary success? Senator? With
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Speaker 1: all due respect, there's two operations. There's the retrograde, which
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Speaker 1: Miller was in charge of, and there's the neo, which
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Speaker 1: Sentcom was in charge of. The retrograde was executed and
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Speaker 1: ended by mid July with a residual force to defend
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Speaker 1: the embassy the neo. You and I've discussed this. Do
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Speaker 1: you would you use the term extraordinary success for what
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Speaker 1: took place in August in Afghanistan? That's the non combatant evacuation.
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Speaker 1: And I think one of the other senators said it
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Speaker 1: very well. It was a logistical success, but a strategic
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Speaker 1: A logistical success for this strategic failure. How dumb do
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Speaker 1: they think we are joining me now to talk about
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Speaker 1: this is the US Center. Marsha Blackburn, Senor. I appreciate
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Speaker 1: you coming on. I have never seen somebody just so
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Speaker 1: willfully admit yeah, I leaked stuff all the time. I
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Speaker 1: was leaking stuff on Trump to anybody that called me,
12:23
Speaker 1: anybody writing a book to take down Donald Trump or
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Speaker 1: attack Donald Trump, and he was talking to all of them.
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Speaker 1: Were you as shocked as I was when I heard
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Speaker 1: all these authors? I mean, it's everybody in town, you know. Ben.
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Speaker 1: We got into this because we knew he had talked
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Speaker 1: to Robert cost and Bob Woodward, so that Woodward had said, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he talked to us. But then we found out there
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Speaker 1: are these other two books that are also coming along,
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Speaker 1: that Millie had talked to those authors or their attributions
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Speaker 1: that were made. So I said, look on this Afghanistan hearing.
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Speaker 1: Let's use this as an opportunity to nail him down,
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Speaker 1: to see what he really did or did not do,
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Speaker 1: because he should not be talking about his commander in chief,
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Speaker 1: and Trump was the commander in chief when he gave
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Speaker 1: these interviews. So I have asked for transcripts and readouts.
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Speaker 1: I want to know if he made these interviews in
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Speaker 1: the presence of Pentacon staff, if he used federal resources
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Speaker 1: when he gave these interviews or with any information that
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Speaker 1: he distributed to these reporters. Now bear in mind, this
13:45
Speaker 1: is a general Joint Chief of Staff chairman who sits
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Speaker 1: in front of us and says repeatedly, yesterday, oh, I
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Speaker 1: cannot give you a readout of my conversation or the
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Speaker 1: exact advice I gave the president, even though they say, yes,
14:02
Speaker 1: we told him he needed to keep twenty five hundred troops.
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Speaker 1: But then he turns it round and he willfully talks
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Speaker 1: to reporters about President Donald Trump, who was at that
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Speaker 1: point in time his commander in chief. The guy cannot
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Speaker 1: do this, he cannot say, on the one hand, but
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Speaker 1: on the other hand, he cannot provide information about the
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Speaker 1: nation's security to somebody that is outside of his chain
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Speaker 1: of command. Let's talk about just the chain of command here.
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Speaker 1: It's obvious I think from these interviews with all of
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Speaker 1: these authors that he had apparently unlimited amount of time
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Speaker 1: to spend with them dogging the president knits it's America
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, right, because these books are about Trump, They're
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Speaker 1: about attacking Trump. He clearly can't stand President at Trump
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Speaker 1: and was undermining him especially after he lost the election.
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Speaker 1: Aren't there rules about that, like, if you can't serve
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Speaker 1: the president, don't feel comfortable serving the president, isn't it
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Speaker 1: your duty to resign at that point, Yes, it is
15:15
Speaker 1: your duty to resign. And we had a couple of
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Speaker 1: the members ask about the resignation because through this entire debacle,
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Speaker 1: yesterday was the first time that we have heard from
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Speaker 1: General McKenzie, the head of Sentcom, Secretary Austin, the Secretary
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Speaker 1: of Defense, and General Millie, the Chairman of the Joint
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Speaker 1: Chiefs of the Staff. And we have tried to get
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Speaker 1: with them because we've had two thousand cases that we're
15:44
Speaker 1: trying to work on getting people out of Afghanistan and
15:49
Speaker 1: they have been unavailable. They've been unavailable until yesterday to
15:54
Speaker 1: come to us at send it Armed Services. And then
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Speaker 1: then they submitted their testimony at ten thirty at night
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Speaker 1: on Monday night, limiting the amount of time we had
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Speaker 1: to prepare. They said the testimony was late because get this,
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Speaker 1: the White House had to review the testimony. Well, the
16:18
Speaker 1: White House needs to remember and these generals need to remember,
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Speaker 1: we do not have the military controlling the people in
16:28
Speaker 1: the government in this country. It is the people that
16:32
Speaker 1: are in charge the civilian sector that is in charge
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Speaker 1: of not only the government, but of the US military.
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Speaker 1: You know, you look at the questioning and I have
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Speaker 1: about four different aspects of this that I want to cover.
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Speaker 1: So I want to go back to just the credibility
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Speaker 1: issue right now. Yesterday one of your colleagues from Mississippi
16:56
Speaker 1: was asking this exact question, Roger Wicker, saying, Hey, like,
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Speaker 1: how that is our credibility now with our allies? And
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Speaker 1: General Milly did say, he said, well, we're in a
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Speaker 1: kind of a time of like they're they're looking at
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Speaker 1: what happens next. But he did say he did agree
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Speaker 1: with the assessment that there has been damage done to
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Speaker 1: our credibility. It's more than just damage. I mean, we've
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Speaker 1: got the UK saying we won't count on America with
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Speaker 1: military exercises and doing things together right now, at least
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Speaker 1: not under the Biden administration because we just can't trust them.
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Speaker 1: This is more than damage. We have people now saying
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Speaker 1: we can't rely on America as an ally. Well, that
17:37
Speaker 1: is very true. And think about our friends in Hong
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Speaker 1: Kong and in Taiwan, because China is all in the
17:45
Speaker 1: middle of this, and you have a US military that
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Speaker 1: it has promised to be there to help you, and
17:52
Speaker 1: you can't depend on them. Think about Cutter and the
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Speaker 1: Qataris who have really stepped up and have said, hey, Usa,
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Speaker 1: you're dropping the ball on this. We've got one of
18:06
Speaker 1: your biggest bases here at Doha, and we're going to
18:11
Speaker 1: step up and help you. But you got to get
18:13
Speaker 1: your act together on this. How about Jordan, another of
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Speaker 1: our allies. How about Israel, My goodness, look at what
18:22
Speaker 1: they're facing now, because you have the Chinese who are
18:27
Speaker 1: backing the Taliban and had already signaled to us they
18:32
Speaker 1: were going to be backing the Taliban. They never give
18:34
Speaker 1: direct military support, they do political and economic support, and
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Speaker 1: they're backing the Taliban because they knew they were going
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Speaker 1: to end up being in charge of Afghanistan. And the
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Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party wants a direct land route from Beijing
18:51
Speaker 1: to Tehran. They want to manufacture affordable air quotes around
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Speaker 1: affordable military equipment and Iran. Tehran wants to supply that
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Speaker 1: to their terrorist proxy organizations like Hespilla and Hamas and
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Speaker 1: ISIS and Altada and the Taliban. And now you have
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Speaker 1: a safe haven for terrorists they're in Afghanistan so they
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Speaker 1: can go cook up their plots so they can attack us.
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Speaker 1: Because if Joe Biden, the world is a much less
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Speaker 1: safe place and his conduct has been disgusting. Well, let's
19:34
Speaker 1: talk about the Americans that are left behind. There was
19:38
Speaker 1: a very interesting back and forth at this committee hearing
19:43
Speaker 1: yesterday on that exact question, and it was talking about
19:47
Speaker 1: how many Americans have been left behind. You say you
19:50
Speaker 1: know that you aren't going to leave people behind, but
19:52
Speaker 1: even sender Tim Cotton made it clear you guys did
19:57
Speaker 1: leave Americans behind. Act like you didn't. You did. In fact,
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Speaker 1: we're trying to get them out. I know you're involved
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Speaker 1: in that. How do we know even how many Americans
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Speaker 1: have been left behind? Right now? I'm talking about American citizens,
20:10
Speaker 1: not counting any of the people that we promised we'd
20:13
Speaker 1: get them out, the translators and others that helped us
20:17
Speaker 1: and worked in our embassy and worked with their troops,
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Speaker 1: just American citizens. And that was the point Center Countenance
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Speaker 1: and you and others are making is you guys have
20:25
Speaker 1: left people. Don't act like you didn't leave people behind.
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Speaker 1: You left Americans behind, Yes, and they did, and they
20:32
Speaker 1: could not give us an answer. Senator Cotton asked, Senator
20:37
Speaker 1: Sullivan asked. Senator Kane asked, so there was a bipartisan
20:45
Speaker 1: frustration about not getting a number. Senator Kane, who's out
20:50
Speaker 1: of Virginia, even told him he's during our first round
20:54
Speaker 1: of questioning, he said, Okay, I'm going to ask you
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Speaker 1: this question again when we do the second round of questioning,
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Speaker 1: and you've got all of this support staff sitting back there,
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Speaker 1: give me a number. How many Americans are left, how
21:13
Speaker 1: many of our allies are left, how many of our
21:18
Speaker 1: Afghan partners are left, how many family members are left.
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Speaker 1: They don't know, State doesn't know, DoD doesn't know. And
21:29
Speaker 1: we left that hearing yesterday still without a number of
21:34
Speaker 1: American citizens that are in harm's way and are behind
21:39
Speaker 1: enemy lines. And they even this far, forty five days
21:45
Speaker 1: after it been they have not developed a list. So
21:51
Speaker 1: you look at this debacle and you have to say
21:55
Speaker 1: they intended it to be this way, and they don't
21:59
Speaker 1: give a ripping flip about who is left in Afghanistan.
22:05
Speaker 1: Joe Biden wanted to be out by September eleventh. He
22:09
Speaker 1: wanted to say, hey, look at me, I'm the guy
22:13
Speaker 1: I did this. I ended the war, but he missed
22:17
Speaker 1: the whole point. It's not the war with Afghanistan, it
22:20
Speaker 1: is the war on terror. And what he has done
22:23
Speaker 1: is to embolden the terrorist because it's a group of
22:27
Speaker 1: people that have been loyal to an ideology and now
22:32
Speaker 1: and they've always rallied around the ideology the let's have
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Speaker 1: a global jihad. Now he has turned to a country
22:40
Speaker 1: over to them, so they have a safe haven to
22:44
Speaker 1: go in and plan. They're dirty Deans. Senator, I want
22:50
Speaker 1: to get into another major point that came out when
22:55
Speaker 1: you guys were questioning our military leaders. One of those
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Speaker 1: is is they seem to be honest about the fact
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Speaker 1: that they did, in fact advise Joe Biden to not
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Speaker 1: pull all troops out. They both claim basically when they
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Speaker 1: were testifying before you, that they wanted to leave a
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Speaker 1: force probably about twenty five hundred to maybe thirty five
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Speaker 1: hundred troops in Afghanistan. That's actually the Trump plan, the
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Speaker 1: Trump Doctor, And if you want to be honest about it,
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Speaker 1: So Joe Biden lied to George Stepanopolis, he lied to
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Speaker 1: the American people when he said no one told him
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Speaker 1: that we should leave troops there. Otherwise the whole country
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Speaker 1: would fall quickly. Were you shocked by the candor and
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Speaker 1: really in many ways telling the truth through the president
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Speaker 1: completely under the bus here that he lied to the
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Speaker 1: American people. Yeah, you know, I think what they did
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Speaker 1: do is throw the president under the bus. And I
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Speaker 1: thought that's kind of the hills that say all chose
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Speaker 1: to I guess die on if you will, because I
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Speaker 1: doubt they're going to be in their positions for very
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Speaker 1: much longer because they each set and you know what,
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Speaker 1: then this confirms what General Scottie Miller told us in
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Speaker 1: a classified setting that there had been the recommendation that
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Speaker 1: there'd be a minimum of twenty five hundred troops so
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Speaker 1: that they could hold the Bogram Airfield and the prison
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Speaker 1: that was there, they could hold the embassy and provide
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Speaker 1: support at h Kaya Airport. So twenty five hundred was
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Speaker 1: the minimum. As General McKenzie said yesterday, and he's the
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Speaker 1: commander of SITCOM, that they had recommended that they plus
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Speaker 1: up to four thousand so that they could appropriately conduct
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Speaker 1: an investigation. But of course what they said was General Miller.
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Speaker 1: General McKenzie's advice was communicated to the president. He re
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Speaker 1: seved that advice, but he decided to do something differently. Now,
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Speaker 1: what they've kind of nuanced and beat around the bush
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Speaker 1: about was whether or not they, as the Chairman of
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Speaker 1: the Joint Chiefs serves as the president's primary military advisor.
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Speaker 1: So what we don't know is if General Millie took
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Speaker 1: the time to say, mister President, we're going to lose
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Speaker 1: troops and we're going to lose people we cannot facilitate
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Speaker 1: at that tempo. We don't know if he challenged the
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Speaker 1: President in any way, shape or form. Now, the other
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Speaker 1: little tidbit on this is that yesterday in Jim Saki's briefing,
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Speaker 1: she kind of raised the curtain a little bit when
25:55
Speaker 1: she said, well, in addition to the general's, we got
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Speaker 1: other advice. So we know that Susan Rice, Ron Klaine,
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Speaker 1: Jake Sullivan, Anthony Blincoln that they all had been advised
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Speaker 1: by the generals also on what should be the withdrawal
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Speaker 1: strategy and an Afghanistan strategy. And we are now left
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Speaker 1: to ask the question, well, did they advice the president
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Speaker 1: just to move forward and do what he wanted to
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Speaker 1: do and say, to hell with the advice of the
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Speaker 1: commanders on the ground, We're going to take that victory
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Speaker 1: Dance on September eleventh, come hell or high water, so
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Speaker 1: roll the dice. It's going to be messy regardless. Roll
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Speaker 1: the dice. Let's get out of there. So that creates
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Speaker 1: another set of questions, and I am sure that our
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Speaker 1: colleagues in the House are going to pick up on
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Speaker 1: some of these things as they have General Millie, Austin
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Speaker 1: and McKenzie in front of them today. Let's talk quickly
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Speaker 1: about your tweet you you have said, and there's been
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Speaker 1: so many I think it's actually sad what we have
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Speaker 1: seen now happen. And I'm talking about the politics of
27:10
Speaker 1: every time someone doesn't like somebody, it's, you know what,
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Speaker 1: we got to impeach him, or they must resign or etc.
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Speaker 1: You're not one of those that's done that. You did
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Speaker 1: tweet out, and I want people to understand why you're
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Speaker 1: saying this. You believe that the President Joe Biden should
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Speaker 1: resign over the Afghan tobaccle. Give people the reason behind it,
27:33
Speaker 1: because there's so many people now unfortunately you're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I don't like him, resign, Oh we should impeach him, Impiezza,
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Speaker 1: that person, peach this person, peach Trump again. Let's impeach
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Speaker 1: this person. That's not what you're saying here. It's not
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Speaker 1: because you don't like Joe Biden. That's not why you're
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Speaker 1: saying you should resign. It's because of his actual handling
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Speaker 1: as the commander in chief over Afghanistan. All that is
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Speaker 1: correct when and as I said in my second round
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Speaker 1: of questioning to General Milly, his job is to make
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Speaker 1: certain that all of the commanders, all of our combatant
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Speaker 1: command like Sitcom Southcom, that they all understand what their
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Speaker 1: mission is, that everybody is ready to move forward to
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Speaker 1: fulfill their mission. And General Milly did not fulfill that obligation.
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Speaker 1: He is also there to advise the President of the
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Speaker 1: United States now President Biden, with how he made his
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Speaker 1: decision of coming out on a date certain and breaking
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Speaker 1: the agreement with our allies, with our NATO partners, with
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Speaker 1: the Afghan government, by putting our troops in peril, putting
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Speaker 1: them in an impossible situation, causing confusion with our ally.
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Speaker 1: They're not knowing if they can trust us. Indeed, General
29:05
Speaker 1: Milly yesterday admitted that our credibility is damaged because of
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Speaker 1: that and his role as commander in chief. Joe Biden
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Speaker 1: should resign Kamala Harris, who says she was the last
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Speaker 1: person in the room and that she fully supported this decision.
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Speaker 1: She should resign General Milly, Secretary Austin, They should resign
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Speaker 1: Anthony B. Lincoln, Jake Sullivan, who's the head of National Security.
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Speaker 1: These are all people who should resign will cause of
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Speaker 1: the damage they have done to our men and women
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Speaker 1: in uniform to our commitment with our allies. This is
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Speaker 1: something that we're going to suffer the consequences of these
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Speaker 1: decisions for decades to come. Last question for you, sender,
30:01
Speaker 1: and this is going to be a quick pivot, but
30:02
Speaker 1: it's an important issue. We're hearing about a possible government
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Speaker 1: shut down. We've also been told that even Bernie Sanders
30:08
Speaker 1: is now threatening to blow up the Biden spinning splurgs
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Speaker 1: if his certain conditions aren't met. We've been told that
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Speaker 1: the President's been whining and dining certain Democrats in the Senate,
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Speaker 1: your colleagues, begging them to get on board with the
30:23
Speaker 1: biggest increase in spending in our like my lifetime. Certainly
30:27
Speaker 1: where are we lifetime? This is bigger than what Roosevelt
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Speaker 1: and Lyndon Johnson did together. So the new deal in
30:38
Speaker 1: the great society. This is more spending than those two combine.
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Speaker 1: But we are hearing that Pelosi and Shumer are going
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Speaker 1: to do a cr that will go through December third.
30:53
Speaker 1: They're not going to get my vote for it, but
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Speaker 1: what they do not want is to have the government
31:00
Speaker 1: shutdown on their watch. And then Biden is going to
31:05
Speaker 1: continue to push to finish this reconciliation bill. But the
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Speaker 1: more he talks about it, the more people come out
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Speaker 1: and say, I'm not voting for that. So let him
31:15
Speaker 1: keep talking. Senator. I really appreciate your time. Obviously, we're
31:19
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