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- 0:00Foreign.
- 0:05Welcome
- 0:05back,
- 0:05my
- 0:06friends,
- 0:06to
- 0:06another
- 0:07episode
- 0:07of
- 0:07Pearls
- 0:08and
- 0:09Prep.
- 0:10This
- 0:10is
- 0:10an
- 0:10exciting
- 0:11one.
- 0:12Today
- 0:12we're
- 0:12going
- 0:12to
- 0:13talk
- 0:13about
- 0:14receptor
- 0:15occupancy.
- 0:16Occupancy
- 0:17is
- 0:17a
- 0:17very
- 0:17important
- 0:19concept
- 0:20for
- 0:20us
- 0:20to
- 0:21tackle.
- 0:21It
- 0:21will
- 0:22empower
- 0:22you
- 0:23significantly
- 0:24in
- 0:24your
- 0:24practice
- 0:25if
- 0:26you
- 0:26understand
- 0:27the
- 0:27concept
- 0:27of
- 0:28occupancy.
- 0:28Our
- 0:29last
- 0:29episode
- 0:30tackled
- 0:30the
- 0:30concept
- 0:31of
- 0:31affinity.
- 0:32Affinity
- 0:32is
- 0:33also
- 0:33very
- 0:33fascinating.
- 0:35The
- 0:35F
- 0:36in
- 0:36affinity
- 0:37actually
- 0:37stands
- 0:38for
- 0:38fascinating.
- 0:39The
- 0:39O
- 0:40in
- 0:40occupancy
- 0:41stands
- 0:41for
- 0:42outstanding.
- 0:43Because
- 0:43this
- 0:43is
- 0:43an
- 0:43outstanding
- 0:44topic
- 0:44that
- 0:44we're
- 0:45going
- 0:45to
- 0:45have
- 0:45a
- 0:45lot
- 0:45of
- 0:45fun
- 0:45with
- 0:46today.
- 0:46Now,
- 0:47what
- 0:47is
- 0:48occupancy?
- 0:49You
- 0:49can
- 0:49think
- 0:50of
- 0:50it
- 0:50as
- 0:51the
- 0:52number
- 0:52of
- 0:53seats
- 0:53on
- 0:53the
- 0:53school
- 0:54bus
- 0:54that
- 0:54are
- 0:54occupied.
- 0:55And
- 0:55let's
- 0:56say
- 0:57your
- 0:57driver
- 0:58is
- 0:58telling
- 0:58you
- 1:00that
- 1:00he's
- 1:01only
- 1:01going
- 1:01to
- 1:01take
- 1:01you
- 1:01to
- 1:02school
- 1:02once
- 1:0280%
- 1:03of
- 1:04the
- 1:04bus
- 1:04seats
- 1:04are
- 1:05occupied.
- 1:06Well,
- 1:06you
- 1:06can
- 1:06think
- 1:07of
- 1:07it
- 1:07that
- 1:07way
- 1:07in
- 1:08terms
- 1:08of
- 1:08antipsychotics.
- 1:10D2
- 1:10receptor
- 1:11occupancy,
- 1:11right?
- 1:12There's
- 1:12a
- 1:12certain
- 1:13percentage
- 1:13by
- 1:13which,
- 1:14if
- 1:14you
- 1:15antagonize
- 1:15the
- 1:15D2
- 1:16receptor,
- 1:17you
- 1:17will
- 1:17exert
- 1:18the
- 1:18desired
- 1:19pharmacological
- 1:20effect
- 1:20and
- 1:21therefore
- 1:21the
- 1:21bus
- 1:22can
- 1:22start
- 1:22driving.
- 1:23The
- 1:23bus
- 1:23doesn't
- 1:24drive
- 1:24on
- 1:24its
- 1:24own.
- 1:24In
- 1:24this
- 1:25analogy,
- 1:25the
- 1:25bus
- 1:25driver
- 1:26would
- 1:27drive
- 1:27the
- 1:27bus.
- 1:28It's
- 1:28a
- 1:28real
- 1:28bus
- 1:28driver.
- 1:29And
- 1:29he
- 1:29goes,
- 1:29oh,
- 1:3080%
- 1:30of
- 1:30our
- 1:30seats
- 1:31are
- 1:31occupied.
- 1:32Boom.
- 1:32I'm
- 1:33going,
- 1:33he's
- 1:33not
- 1:33waiting
- 1:33for
- 1:34100%.
- 1:35Okay,
- 1:35now,
- 1:36every.
- 1:37Every
- 1:37kind
- 1:38of
- 1:38draw,
- 1:38let's
- 1:39put
- 1:39it
- 1:39this
- 1:39way,
- 1:39every
- 1:40kind
- 1:40of
- 1:40medication
- 1:42may
- 1:42entail
- 1:43a
- 1:43different
- 1:44level
- 1:44of
- 1:45occupancy
- 1:45for
- 1:46it
- 1:46to
- 1:46exert
- 1:46the
- 1:47desired
- 1:47effect.
- 1:47It's
- 1:47not
- 1:48always
- 1:4880%.
- 1:49Sometimes
- 1:49it's
- 1:4960,
- 1:5050%.
- 1:51Right.
- 1:51With
- 1:51second
- 1:52generation
- 1:52antipsychotics,
- 1:54they're
- 1:54able
- 1:54to
- 1:55address
- 1:56specific
- 1:57symptom
- 1:57clusters
- 1:58at
- 1:59a
- 1:59lower
- 1:59occupancy
- 2:00than
- 2:00the
- 2:00first
- 2:01generation
- 2:01antipsychotics,
- 2:02thus
- 2:03sparing
- 2:03people
- 2:04from
- 2:04a
- 2:04lot
- 2:04of
- 2:05the
- 2:05worsening
- 2:06side
- 2:06effects.
- 2:06Those
- 2:07EPS
- 2:07side
- 2:07effects
- 2:08because
- 2:08they're
- 2:09able
- 2:09to
- 2:09occupy
- 2:10a
- 2:10smaller
- 2:11percentage
- 2:11of
- 2:12receptors
- 2:13and
- 2:13not
- 2:14cause
- 2:14as
- 2:14many
- 2:14side
- 2:15effects.
- 2:15Okay.
- 2:15And
- 2:15we're
- 2:16going
- 2:16to
- 2:16go
- 2:16into
- 2:16some
- 2:16of
- 2:16this
- 2:16a
- 2:17little
- 2:17bit
- 2:17later.
- 2:17But
- 2:18think
- 2:18about
- 2:18that
- 2:18school
- 2:19bus
- 2:19in
- 2:20the
- 2:20beginning
- 2:20here.
- 2:21And
- 2:21in
- 2:21order
- 2:21for
- 2:22an
- 2:22effect
- 2:22to
- 2:22happen,
- 2:23you
- 2:24need
- 2:24a
- 2:24certain
- 2:24percentage
- 2:25of
- 2:25those
- 2:25receptors
- 2:26to
- 2:27be
- 2:27occupied.
- 2:28The
- 2:28precise
- 2:28definition
- 2:29that
- 2:29we
- 2:29can
- 2:29go
- 2:29off
- 2:30of
- 2:30here
- 2:30as
- 2:30it
- 2:31relates
- 2:31to
- 2:31occupancy
- 2:32is
- 2:32the
- 2:32percentage
- 2:32of
- 2:33receptors
- 2:33in
- 2:33the
- 2:33body
- 2:34that
- 2:34are
- 2:34currently
- 2:35occupied
- 2:35or
- 2:35bound
- 2:36by,
- 2:36by
- 2:36a
- 2:37drug
- 2:37at
- 2:37any
- 2:37given
- 2:38time.
- 2:38Okay.
- 2:39That's
- 2:39the
- 2:39simple
- 2:40definition
- 2:40we
- 2:40can
- 2:40go
- 2:41by
- 2:41right
- 2:41now.
- 2:42A
- 2:43key
- 2:43takeaway
- 2:43is
- 2:44that
- 2:44it's
- 2:44not
- 2:45as
- 2:45simple
- 2:45as
- 2:46I'm
- 2:46going
- 2:46to
- 2:46prescribe
- 2:48this
- 2:48one
- 2:48medication
- 2:50and
- 2:50I'm
- 2:51going
- 2:51to
- 2:51occupy
- 2:53this
- 2:53percentage
- 2:55of
- 2:55receptors.
- 2:55It
- 2:56is
- 2:56not
- 2:56that
- 2:56simple
- 2:57as
- 2:57you
- 2:57as
- 2:57we
- 2:57will
- 2:57understand,
- 2:58and
- 2:58it's
- 2:59not
- 2:59that
- 2:59simple.
- 2:59And
- 3:00I
- 3:00hope
- 3:00this
- 3:00is
- 3:00a
- 3:00very
- 3:01stimulating
- 3:01episode
- 3:02for
- 3:02you
- 3:02and
- 3:02it
- 3:02really
- 3:02gets
- 3:03you
- 3:03thinking
- 3:04because
- 3:04this
- 3:05is
- 3:05what
- 3:05will
- 3:05separate
- 3:06you
- 3:06as
- 3:07a
- 3:07higher
- 3:07order
- 3:08clinician,
- 3:09as
- 3:09a
- 3:09prescriber
- 3:10is
- 3:10having
- 3:10a
- 3:10finer
- 3:11conceptual
- 3:11appreciation
- 3:12for
- 3:12these
- 3:13types
- 3:13of
- 3:13things.
- 3:13Okay,
- 3:14so
- 3:15occupancy,
- 3:15you
- 3:16want
- 3:16to
- 3:16set
- 3:16out
- 3:17and
- 3:17occupy
- 3:17a
- 3:17certain
- 3:18percentage
- 3:18of
- 3:18receptors
- 3:19to
- 3:19exert
- 3:19a
- 3:20specific
- 3:20clinical
- 3:21effect.
- 3:22Whether
- 3:22it
- 3:22is
- 3:23an
- 3:23anti
- 3:23histaminergic
- 3:24effect
- 3:24to
- 3:24sedate
- 3:25a
- 3:25patient,
- 3:26whether
- 3:26it
- 3:26is
- 3:27antagonizing
- 3:28a
- 3:29dopamine
- 3:29receptor
- 3:30to
- 3:30stabilize
- 3:31mood
- 3:31or
- 3:31psychosis,
- 3:32you're
- 3:33striving
- 3:33for
- 3:33a
- 3:34specific
- 3:34percentage.
- 3:35The
- 3:35problem
- 3:35with
- 3:36that
- 3:36is
- 3:36that
- 3:37like
- 3:37everything
- 3:38else
- 3:38in
- 3:38the
- 3:38body,
- 3:40it's
- 3:40not
- 3:40always
- 3:41that
- 3:41simple.
- 3:41There
- 3:41are
- 3:42specific
- 3:43factors
- 3:44that
- 3:45can
- 3:45interrupt
- 3:45your
- 3:46ability
- 3:46to
- 3:46occupy
- 3:47those
- 3:48receptors.
- 3:49So
- 3:49similar
- 3:49to
- 3:51getting
- 3:51on
- 3:51a
- 3:52bus
- 3:52at
- 3:5280%,
- 3:53well,
- 3:53there's
- 3:54specific
- 3:54problems
- 3:55that
- 3:56might
- 3:56impede
- 3:56you
- 3:56from
- 3:57getting
- 3:57onto
- 3:58that
- 3:58seat.
- 3:59Maybe
- 4:01there
- 4:01are
- 4:02other
- 4:02kids
- 4:03trying
- 4:03to
- 4:03compete
- 4:04to
- 4:04get
- 4:05on
- 4:05those
- 4:05seats
- 4:05as
- 4:06well.
- 4:06They're
- 4:06playing
- 4:07musical
- 4:07chairs
- 4:07and
- 4:08not
- 4:08everybody
- 4:08can
- 4:08get
- 4:09into
- 4:09a
- 4:09seat.
- 4:09Or
- 4:10maybe
- 4:10there's
- 4:10a
- 4:10different
- 4:11kid
- 4:11in
- 4:11the
- 4:11seat
- 4:12and
- 4:12it's
- 4:12not
- 4:13you.
- 4:13Right.
- 4:14And
- 4:14you
- 4:14want
- 4:14to
- 4:14get
- 4:14on
- 4:15that
- 4:15seat
- 4:15so
- 4:15you
- 4:15can
- 4:16go
- 4:16to
- 4:16school,
- 4:16get
- 4:16in
- 4:17that
- 4:17seat
- 4:17and
- 4:17get
- 4:17the
- 4:17desired
- 4:18pharmacological
- 4:19effect.
- 4:19Well,
- 4:19there's
- 4:20another
- 4:21kid,
- 4:21a
- 4:21bully,
- 4:22on
- 4:22that
- 4:22seat,
- 4:23competing
- 4:23with
- 4:23you
- 4:23for
- 4:24that
- 4:24seat,
- 4:24and
- 4:24he's
- 4:24going
- 4:24to
- 4:25knock
- 4:25you
- 4:25off.
- 4:25So
- 4:25now
- 4:26you're
- 4:26not
- 4:26going
- 4:26to
- 4:26school,
- 4:27AKA
- 4:28you're
- 4:28not
- 4:29achieving
- 4:30the
- 4:30desired
- 4:30effect
- 4:31of
- 4:31going
- 4:31to
- 4:31school.
- 4:32And
- 4:32that
- 4:32bully
- 4:33was
- 4:34another
- 4:35medication
- 4:35that
- 4:36has
- 4:36competed
- 4:36for
- 4:37you,
- 4:37for
- 4:37has
- 4:38competed
- 4:38and
- 4:39not
- 4:39allowed
- 4:39you
- 4:39to
- 4:39get
- 4:40into
- 4:40that
- 4:40seat.
- 4:40We're
- 4:40going
- 4:40to
- 4:41go
- 4:41into
- 4:41what
- 4:41that
- 4:41means,
- 4:41what
- 4:42that
- 4:42looks
- 4:42like.
- 4:43But
- 4:43I
- 4:43want
- 4:43you
- 4:43to
- 4:44have
- 4:44an
- 4:44appreciation
- 4:44for
- 4:45the
- 4:45fact
- 4:45that
- 4:45many
- 4:45things
- 4:46can
- 4:46thwart
- 4:46your
- 4:46ability
- 4:47to
- 4:47occupy
- 4:48receptors,
- 4:50including
- 4:50yourself.
- 4:50Your
- 4:51own
- 4:51genetic
- 4:52metabolism
- 4:53can
- 4:54influence
- 4:55how
- 4:56many
- 4:56kids
- 4:56are
- 4:56getting
- 4:56on
- 4:57that
- 4:57bus.
- 4:57If
- 4:58you
- 4:58will,
- 4:58I
- 4:58can
- 4:59prescribe
- 4:59you
- 4:595
- 5:00milligrams
- 5:00of
- 5:00Lexapro,
- 5:0110
- 5:01milligrams
- 5:02of
- 5:02Lexapro,
- 5:0215
- 5:03milligrams
- 5:03of
- 5:03Lexapro.
- 5:04And
- 5:04you
- 5:05are
- 5:05such
- 5:05an
- 5:05ultra
- 5:06rapid
- 5:06metabolizer
- 5:07of
- 5:07that
- 5:07Lexapro.
- 5:08It's
- 5:09like
- 5:09kids
- 5:09that
- 5:09are
- 5:09getting
- 5:09on
- 5:09the
- 5:10bus
- 5:10and
- 5:10then
- 5:10running
- 5:10away
- 5:10from
- 5:11the
- 5:11bus.
- 5:11They're
- 5:11never
- 5:11really
- 5:12sitting
- 5:12in
- 5:12the
- 5:12seats.
- 5:13They're
- 5:13going
- 5:13up
- 5:13there,
- 5:13they're
- 5:13eyeballing
- 5:14the
- 5:14bus
- 5:14and
- 5:14they're
- 5:14running
- 5:15away.
- 5:15It's
- 5:16almost
- 5:16like
- 5:16snow
- 5:17that
- 5:17hits
- 5:17the
- 5:17pavement
- 5:18and
- 5:18then
- 5:18kind
- 5:18of
- 5:18melts
- 5:18right
- 5:19away
- 5:19rather
- 5:20than
- 5:20sticks.
- 5:21The
- 5:21drug
- 5:21is
- 5:22being
- 5:22metabolized
- 5:22so
- 5:23quickly
- 5:23that
- 5:23it's
- 5:24not
- 5:24able
- 5:24to
- 5:24have
- 5:24time
- 5:25to
- 5:25occupy
- 5:25those
- 5:25receptors
- 5:26to
- 5:26begin
- 5:26with,
- 5:27right?
- 5:28And
- 5:28some
- 5:28people
- 5:29just
- 5:29churn
- 5:29out
- 5:29these
- 5:29medications.
- 5:30They
- 5:30metabolize
- 5:31them
- 5:31genetically.
- 5:32They
- 5:32have
- 5:32genotypes
- 5:33that
- 5:33metabolize
- 5:33the
- 5:34medications
- 5:34too
- 5:34quickly.
- 5:35And
- 5:35therefore
- 5:35the
- 5:36desired
- 5:36occupancy
- 5:37is
- 5:37undermined
- 5:38because
- 5:38of
- 5:38hyper
- 5:39metabolism.
- 5:40You
- 5:40can
- 5:41can
- 5:41get
- 5:41in
- 5:41the
- 5:41way
- 5:41of
- 5:41your
- 5:42own
- 5:43medication
- 5:44that
- 5:44is
- 5:44trying
- 5:44to
- 5:44exert
- 5:45a
- 5:45desired
- 5:46effect.
- 5:47And
- 5:47it's
- 5:48not
- 5:48letting
- 5:48you
- 5:49sit
- 5:49in
- 5:49that
- 5:49seat,
- 5:49occupy
- 5:50that
- 5:51receptor.
- 5:52And
- 5:52again,
- 5:52we
- 5:52want
- 5:53to
- 5:53occupy
- 5:53those
- 5:53receptors.
- 5:54Now
- 5:54we
- 5:54don't
- 5:54want
- 5:54to
- 5:55over
- 5:55occupy
- 5:55the
- 5:55receptors,
- 5:56right?
- 5:56There's
- 5:57100
- 5:57seats
- 5:57on
- 5:57the
- 5:58bus.
- 5:58We
- 5:59don't
- 5:59want
- 6:00all
- 6:00100
- 6:00kids
- 6:01to
- 6:01sit
- 6:01on
- 6:01the
- 6:01bus.
- 6:01That
- 6:02might
- 6:02be
- 6:02a
- 6:02really
- 6:02crowded,
- 6:03loud
- 6:03bus
- 6:04ride.
- 6:04It
- 6:04might
- 6:05be
- 6:05very
- 6:05chaotic.
- 6:05It
- 6:06might
- 6:06be
- 6:06hard
- 6:06to
- 6:06drive.
- 6:07The
- 6:07analogy
- 6:08here
- 6:08would
- 6:08be
- 6:08side
- 6:09effects,
- 6:09right?
- 6:09If
- 6:09you
- 6:09are
- 6:10oversaturating
- 6:11those
- 6:11receptors,
- 6:12if
- 6:12you
- 6:12are
- 6:12raising
- 6:13the
- 6:13dose
- 6:14well
- 6:14past
- 6:15the
- 6:15point
- 6:15of
- 6:1580%,
- 6:16let's
- 6:16say,
- 6:16in
- 6:16an
- 6:17SSRI,
- 6:18and
- 6:18now
- 6:18you're
- 6:18at
- 6:19a
- 6:19really
- 6:19super
- 6:19high
- 6:20dose
- 6:20of
- 6:20Prozac
- 6:20or
- 6:21Lexapro
- 6:21or
- 6:21Zoloft,
- 6:22now
- 6:22you
- 6:23might
- 6:23just
- 6:23get
- 6:23side
- 6:23effects,
- 6:24right?
- 6:24We
- 6:24don't
- 6:24necessarily
- 6:25want
- 6:25to
- 6:26saturate
- 6:26these
- 6:27receptors
- 6:27beyond
- 6:2880%
- 6:28because
- 6:29now
- 6:29remember,
- 6:30these
- 6:30receptors
- 6:30are
- 6:31not
- 6:31just
- 6:31in
- 6:31sweet
- 6:32spots
- 6:32in
- 6:32the
- 6:32brain
- 6:32that
- 6:33calm
- 6:33you
- 6:33down
- 6:33and
- 6:33make
- 6:34you
- 6:34feel
- 6:34less
- 6:34anxious.
- 6:35You
- 6:35also
- 6:35have
- 6:35serotonin
- 6:36receptors
- 6:36in
- 6:37the
- 6:37gut.
- 6:37When
- 6:38you
- 6:38stimulate
- 6:39the
- 6:395ht3
- 6:41receptors,
- 6:41you're
- 6:42getting
- 6:42more
- 6:42nauseous.
- 6:42GI
- 6:43discomfort
- 6:44when
- 6:44you
- 6:44overstimulate
- 6:455ht2A,
- 6:46you're
- 6:47becoming
- 6:47a
- 6:47little
- 6:47too
- 6:48anxious
- 6:48and
- 6:48ruminative.
- 6:49You
- 6:49want
- 6:49to
- 6:50stimulate
- 6:50specific
- 6:51receptors.
- 6:51But
- 6:51as
- 6:52we
- 6:52talked
- 6:52about
- 6:52in
- 6:52previous
- 6:53episodes,
- 6:54when
- 6:54you
- 6:55prescribe
- 6:55an
- 6:55ssri,
- 6:57it's
- 6:57going
- 6:58to
- 6:58act
- 6:58broadly
- 6:58on
- 6:59many
- 6:59different
- 6:59receptors.
- 7:01And
- 7:01the
- 7:01key
- 7:01is
- 7:02to
- 7:02occupy
- 7:02a
- 7:03specific
- 7:03percentage
- 7:04of
- 7:04those
- 7:05receptors
- 7:05at
- 7:06a
- 7:06specific
- 7:06time
- 7:06to
- 7:07exert
- 7:07a
- 7:07specific
- 7:08effect
- 7:08while
- 7:09mitigating
- 7:09the
- 7:09side
- 7:10effects.
- 7:10You
- 7:10might
- 7:10get
- 7:11more
- 7:11nauseous,
- 7:11you
- 7:11might
- 7:11get
- 7:12more
- 7:12anxious.
- 7:13So
- 7:13it's
- 7:13a
- 7:13fine
- 7:14line.
- 7:14It's
- 7:14an
- 7:14art
- 7:14and
- 7:15a
- 7:15science.
- 7:15And
- 7:15we
- 7:15have
- 7:16to
- 7:16really
- 7:16get
- 7:16good
- 7:17at
- 7:17asking
- 7:17our
- 7:17patients
- 7:18those
- 7:18granular
- 7:18questions
- 7:19about,
- 7:19okay,
- 7:20you're
- 7:20on
- 7:20Prozac.
- 7:21We
- 7:21just
- 7:21started
- 7:21you
- 7:21on
- 7:21Prozac.
- 7:22Why
- 7:23at
- 7:23a
- 7:23very
- 7:23low
- 7:24dose,
- 7:24are
- 7:25you
- 7:25having
- 7:25so
- 7:26many
- 7:26side
- 7:26effects?
- 7:27They
- 7:27might
- 7:27be
- 7:27occupying
- 7:28that
- 7:28small
- 7:29dose
- 7:29of
- 7:29Prozac,
- 7:30and
- 7:30that
- 7:30low
- 7:30dose
- 7:30of
- 7:30Prozac
- 7:31might
- 7:31be
- 7:31occupying
- 7:32way
- 7:32more
- 7:32receptors
- 7:33than
- 7:33you
- 7:34wanted
- 7:34it
- 7:34to.
- 7:34And
- 7:35you're
- 7:35like,
- 7:35wait
- 7:35a
- 7:35minute,
- 7:35it's
- 7:36only
- 7:3610
- 7:36milligrams.
- 7:37Why
- 7:37would
- 7:38this
- 7:38be
- 7:38occupying
- 7:38so
- 7:39many
- 7:39receptors?
- 7:39Well,
- 7:40maybe
- 7:40the
- 7:40patient
- 7:40is
- 7:40a
- 7:41slow
- 7:41metabolizer
- 7:42of
- 7:43Prozac
- 7:44and
- 7:44therefore
- 7:45has
- 7:45a
- 7:45hard
- 7:45time
- 7:45clearing
- 7:46it
- 7:46genetically
- 7:48via
- 7:48the
- 7:48liver
- 7:49enzymes,
- 7:49the
- 7:49CYP
- 7:50system.
- 7:50And
- 7:51now
- 7:51you
- 7:51have
- 7:52a
- 7:52disproportionately
- 7:53high
- 7:54level
- 7:54of
- 7:55Prozac
- 7:56in
- 7:56the
- 7:56system.
- 7:57So
- 7:57now
- 7:57that's
- 7:58another
- 7:58thing
- 7:58you
- 7:58have
- 7:58to
- 7:58contend
- 7:59with
- 7:59and
- 7:59think
- 7:59about.
- 8:01So
- 8:01we
- 8:01talked
- 8:01about
- 8:02your
- 8:02own
- 8:03genetic
- 8:03metabolism
- 8:04and
- 8:04how
- 8:04that
- 8:04can
- 8:05influence
- 8:06the
- 8:06occupancy
- 8:07percentage.
- 8:08We
- 8:08also
- 8:08have
- 8:08to
- 8:09think
- 8:09about
- 8:10dehydration,
- 8:10right?
- 8:11Less
- 8:11plasma
- 8:12volume
- 8:12means
- 8:13drug
- 8:13is
- 8:13more
- 8:13concentrated,
- 8:14and
- 8:14it
- 8:14raises
- 8:15the
- 8:15free
- 8:15levels
- 8:16in
- 8:16the
- 8:16blood,
- 8:17and
- 8:17therefore
- 8:18it
- 8:18can
- 8:18exert
- 8:19more
- 8:19of
- 8:19an
- 8:20effect
- 8:20on
- 8:20your
- 8:21receptors.
- 8:21Now,
- 8:22I
- 8:22don't
- 8:22wanna
- 8:22lose
- 8:23you
- 8:23here.
- 8:23It's.
- 8:23It's
- 8:23pretty
- 8:24simple.
- 8:24It's
- 8:25a
- 8:25crude
- 8:25analogy,
- 8:25but
- 8:26I
- 8:26think
- 8:26it's
- 8:26a
- 8:26decent
- 8:27analogy.
- 8:28Think
- 8:28of
- 8:29dehydration
- 8:30as
- 8:31what
- 8:31it
- 8:31is,
- 8:31right?
- 8:31Everything's
- 8:32more
- 8:32concentrated,
- 8:33your
- 8:33drug,
- 8:33including
- 8:34the
- 8:34drug.
- 8:34So
- 8:34you
- 8:34prescribe
- 8:35Prozac,
- 8:35this
- 8:36patient's
- 8:36really
- 8:36dehydrated.
- 8:37The
- 8:37concentration
- 8:38of
- 8:38the
- 8:38drug
- 8:38is
- 8:38going
- 8:39to
- 8:39be
- 8:39just
- 8:39more
- 8:40intense.
- 8:40It's
- 8:41no
- 8:41different
- 8:41than
- 8:42if
- 8:43you
- 8:43take
- 8:43a
- 8:43tablespoon
- 8:44of
- 8:44salt
- 8:44and
- 8:44you
- 8:45put
- 8:45it
- 8:45in
- 8:45a
- 8:45small
- 8:45glass
- 8:46of
- 8:46water
- 8:46and
- 8:46drink
- 8:46that
- 8:47glass
- 8:47of
- 8:47water
- 8:47that's
- 8:48really
- 8:48powerful.
- 8:48It's
- 8:49like,
- 8:49oh,
- 8:49my
- 8:49God,
- 8:49this
- 8:49water's
- 8:50so
- 8:50salty.
- 8:51If
- 8:51you
- 8:51put
- 8:51it
- 8:51in
- 8:51a
- 8:52gallon
- 8:52of
- 8:52water,
- 8:52it
- 8:52might
- 8:53actually
- 8:53be
- 8:53a
- 8:53little
- 8:54easier.
- 8:54It
- 8:55won't
- 8:55be
- 8:55as
- 8:55salty
- 8:56because
- 8:56there's
- 8:56so
- 8:57much
- 8:57more
- 8:57water
- 8:58to
- 8:58dilute
- 8:58the
- 8:58salt.
- 8:59It's
- 8:59not
- 8:59going
- 8:59to
- 8:59taste
- 8:59great
- 9:00to
- 9:00drink
- 9:01that
- 9:01salt
- 9:01water,
- 9:02but
- 9:02it's
- 9:02just
- 9:02going
- 9:02to
- 9:02be
- 9:03a
- 9:03lot
- 9:03less
- 9:03intense
- 9:04than
- 9:04if
- 9:04you
- 9:04have
- 9:04one
- 9:05little
- 9:05glass
- 9:05with
- 9:05a
- 9:06whole
- 9:06tablespoon
- 9:06of
- 9:07salt.
- 9:07Same
- 9:08with
- 9:08your
- 9:08medications.
- 9:09If
- 9:09you
- 9:10prescribe
- 9:10Prozac
- 9:11or
- 9:11Zoloft
- 9:12or
- 9:12what
- 9:12have
- 9:12you,
- 9:12and
- 9:12the
- 9:13patient
- 9:13is
- 9:13super
- 9:13dehydrated,
- 9:14the
- 9:14reduction
- 9:15in
- 9:15plasma
- 9:15volume
- 9:16means
- 9:17your
- 9:17drug
- 9:17doesn't
- 9:17have
- 9:17to
- 9:17travel
- 9:18as
- 9:19far.
- 9:19Let's
- 9:20say
- 9:20you
- 9:20have
- 9:20a
- 9:20pool,
- 9:21and
- 9:21the
- 9:22pool
- 9:22is
- 9:22completely
- 9:23full
- 9:23and
- 9:23you're
- 9:24draining
- 9:24it,
- 9:24you
- 9:25have
- 9:25a
- 9:25little
- 9:26bit
- 9:26of
- 9:26pink
- 9:26dye
- 9:26in
- 9:27the
- 9:27pool.
- 9:27It's
- 9:27going
- 9:27to
- 9:28take
- 9:28a
- 9:28long
- 9:28time
- 9:28for
- 9:29all
- 9:29that
- 9:29pink
- 9:29dye
- 9:29to
- 9:30drain
- 9:30because
- 9:30it's
- 9:30a
- 9:30large
- 9:31pool,
- 9:31right?
- 9:32But
- 9:32if
- 9:32your
- 9:32pool
- 9:32is
- 9:32very
- 9:33small
- 9:33and
- 9:33you
- 9:33still
- 9:33have
- 9:34the
- 9:34same
- 9:34amount
- 9:34of
- 9:34pink
- 9:35dye
- 9:35and
- 9:35you're
- 9:35draining
- 9:36the
- 9:36pool,
- 9:37it's
- 9:37going
- 9:37to
- 9:37drain
- 9:38faster
- 9:38because
- 9:38that
- 9:39dye
- 9:39is
- 9:39way
- 9:39more
- 9:40concentrated.
- 9:40It's
- 9:40just
- 9:40in
- 9:41a
- 9:41small
- 9:41puddle.
- 9:41And
- 9:42it
- 9:42doesn't
- 9:42take
- 9:42long
- 9:43to
- 9:43drain
- 9:43that
- 9:43puddle
- 9:44because
- 9:44it's
- 9:44A
- 9:44small
- 9:44amount
- 9:44of
- 9:45volume.
- 9:45The
- 9:45same
- 9:45principle
- 9:46is
- 9:46taking
- 9:46place
- 9:47when
- 9:47you
- 9:47give
- 9:47a
- 9:48drug
- 9:48like,
- 9:48like
- 9:48Prozac
- 9:49and
- 9:49the
- 9:50plasma
- 9:50is
- 9:51super
- 9:51dehydrated.
- 9:52It
- 9:52gets
- 9:52super
- 9:52concentrated
- 9:53in
- 9:53the
- 9:53plasma
- 9:53and
- 9:54it
- 9:54can
- 9:54flow
- 9:54through
- 9:54the
- 9:54blood
- 9:55brain
- 9:55barrier
- 9:55more
- 9:56readily
- 9:56because
- 9:57it's
- 9:57less
- 9:57volume
- 9:58and
- 9:58way
- 9:58more
- 9:58concentrated.
- 9:59Right.
- 9:59That
- 10:00same
- 10:00amount
- 10:00of
- 10:01pink
- 10:01dye,
- 10:01but
- 10:01in
- 10:02a
- 10:02small
- 10:02puddle.
- 10:02So
- 10:03it's
- 10:03like
- 10:03really
- 10:03pink
- 10:04and
- 10:04really
- 10:04intense.
- 10:04And
- 10:05therefore
- 10:05it
- 10:06exerts
- 10:06a
- 10:06much
- 10:07greater
- 10:07side
- 10:07effect.
- 10:08So
- 10:08I
- 10:08want
- 10:09you
- 10:09to
- 10:09have
- 10:09an
- 10:09appreciation
- 10:10for
- 10:10the
- 10:10fact
- 10:10that
- 10:11if
- 10:11your
- 10:11patient
- 10:11is
- 10:11just
- 10:12dehydrated,
- 10:12that
- 10:13alone
- 10:13can
- 10:13increase
- 10:14the
- 10:14occupancy
- 10:15of
- 10:16those
- 10:16receptors
- 10:16to
- 10:17achieve
- 10:17the
- 10:17desired
- 10:17clinical
- 10:18effect.
- 10:18And
- 10:19not
- 10:19just
- 10:19desired
- 10:19effect,
- 10:19but
- 10:20side
- 10:20effects.
- 10:20Right.
- 11:15Your
- 11:15patient
- 11:16might
- 11:16have
- 11:16a
- 11:16lot
- 11:16of
- 11:16side
- 10:22effects.
- 11:17They're
- 11:18dehydrated.
- 11:18They
- 11:19might
- 11:19be
- 11:19slow
- 11:19metabolizers
- 11:20like
- 11:20we
- 11:20talked
- 11:21about.
- 11:21And
- 11:22so
- 11:22that
- 11:22can
- 11:23all
- 11:23affect
- 11:23things
- 11:24a
- 11:24lot.
- 11:25We
- 11:25talked
- 11:25about
- 11:25affinity
- 11:26last
- 11:26time
- 11:26and
- 11:26how
- 11:27that
- 11:27affects
- 11:27occupancy.
- 11:28We
- 11:28talked
- 11:28about
- 11:28the
- 11:28snowflake
- 11:29analogy.
- 11:29And
- 11:29I
- 11:30encourage
- 11:30you
- 11:30to
- 11:30go
- 11:30to
- 11:30our
- 11:30previous
- 11:31episode
- 11:31all
- 11:32about
- 11:32affinity.
- 11:33If
- 11:33a
- 11:33drug
- 11:34has
- 11:34a
- 11:34very
- 11:34high
- 11:34affinity,
- 11:35like
- 11:35Remeron,
- 11:36has
- 11:36a
- 11:36very
- 11:36high
- 11:36affinity
- 11:37for
- 11:37blocking
- 11:37histamine.
- 11:38Well,
- 11:39if
- 11:39a
- 11:39drug
- 11:39has
- 11:40a
- 11:40high
- 11:40affinity
- 11:40for
- 11:41something,
- 11:41it's
- 11:41going
- 11:41to
- 11:41occupy
- 11:42those
- 11:43receptors
- 11:44more
- 11:44readily
- 11:45at
- 11:45lower
- 11:45doses.
- 11:46So
- 11:46that's
- 11:46another
- 11:46factor
- 11:47that
- 11:47can
- 11:48influence
- 11:49the
- 11:49occupancy.
- 11:50And
- 11:50that
- 11:50matters
- 11:51because
- 11:51very
- 11:51low
- 11:51doses
- 11:52of
- 11:52something
- 11:52can
- 11:53be
- 11:53enough
- 11:53to
- 11:53achieve
- 11:54the
- 11:54desired
- 11:54effect
- 11:55and
- 11:55occupy
- 11:56the
- 11:56right
- 11:56percentage
- 11:56of
- 11:57receptors,
- 11:58because
- 11:58the
- 11:58affinity
- 11:59of
- 11:59your
- 11:59medication
- 12:00towards
- 12:00that
- 12:01receptor,
- 12:01in
- 12:01this
- 12:01case
- 12:02Renron
- 12:02and
- 12:02histamine,
- 12:03is
- 12:04significant.
- 12:05So
- 12:05think
- 12:05about
- 12:06that.
- 12:06We
- 12:06talked
- 12:06about
- 12:07dehydration.
- 12:07We
- 12:07talked
- 12:08about
- 12:08affinity.
- 12:08We
- 12:09talked
- 12:09about
- 12:09your
- 12:09own
- 12:10metabolism
- 12:10and
- 12:11how
- 12:11you
- 12:11metabolize
- 12:12medications
- 12:12and
- 12:13their
- 12:13ability
- 12:14either
- 12:14if
- 12:14it's
- 12:14too
- 12:14slow
- 12:15or
- 12:15too
- 12:15fast
- 12:15to
- 12:16influence
- 12:16the
- 12:17percentage
- 12:17of
- 12:17receptors
- 12:18that
- 12:18are
- 12:18occupied.
- 12:19But
- 12:19it's
- 12:20almost
- 12:20like
- 12:20when
- 12:21blood
- 12:21levels
- 12:22build
- 12:22up
- 12:22and
- 12:22side
- 12:22effects
- 12:23build
- 12:23up
- 12:23quickly,
- 12:24it's
- 12:25like
- 12:25people
- 12:25getting
- 12:25you
- 12:26on
- 12:26that
- 12:26bus
- 12:27even
- 12:27faster.
- 12:27They're
- 12:28just
- 12:28like,
- 12:28get
- 12:28on
- 12:28the
- 12:28bus.
- 12:29And
- 12:29now
- 12:29all
- 12:30those
- 12:30seats
- 12:30are
- 12:30occupied
- 12:31and
- 12:31they
- 12:31build
- 12:31up
- 12:31and
- 12:31nobody's
- 12:32leaving
- 12:32the
- 12:32bus.
- 12:33Not
- 12:33my
- 12:33favorite
- 12:34analogy,
- 12:34but
- 12:35you
- 12:35get
- 12:35the
- 12:35idea
- 12:35here,
- 12:36right?
- 12:36It's
- 12:36all
- 12:37about
- 12:37how
- 12:37quickly
- 12:38your
- 12:39enzymes
- 12:40are
- 12:40metabolizing
- 12:41this,
- 12:41or
- 12:42how
- 12:42slowly.
- 12:43Quickly
- 12:43would
- 12:43mean
- 12:44you're
- 12:44not
- 12:44getting
- 12:44the
- 12:45therapeutic
- 12:45effects
- 12:46as
- 12:47easily.
- 12:47And
- 12:48slowly
- 12:48would
- 12:48mean
- 12:48you're
- 12:48getting
- 12:49them
- 12:49probably
- 12:50at
- 12:50lower
- 12:50doses
- 12:51and
- 12:51with
- 12:51some
- 12:52side
- 12:52effects.
- 12:53So
- 12:53just
- 12:53think
- 12:53about
- 12:53that,
- 12:54my
- 12:54friends.
- 12:54Now,
- 12:55protein
- 12:55binding
- 12:55is
- 12:56a
- 12:56very
- 12:56unique
- 12:56concept.
- 12:56We're
- 12:57probably
- 12:57going
- 12:57to
- 12:57do
- 12:57a
- 12:57whole
- 12:58episode
- 12:58on
- 12:58protein
- 12:58binding.
- 12:59So
- 12:59you
- 12:59have
- 12:59A
- 12:59better
- 12:59appreciation
- 13:00for
- 13:00it.
- 13:01But
- 13:01just
- 13:01remember
- 13:02that
- 13:02when
- 13:02you
- 13:02prescribe
- 13:03a
- 13:03medication
- 13:03and
- 13:03if
- 13:04it
- 13:04is
- 13:04highly
- 13:04protein
- 13:05bound,
- 13:05it
- 13:05is
- 13:05inactive,
- 13:06it
- 13:06is
- 13:07not
- 13:07exerting
- 13:07a
- 13:07real
- 13:08pharmacological
- 13:08effect
- 13:09when
- 13:09it
- 13:09is
- 13:09bound
- 13:09to
- 13:10a
- 13:10protein.
- 13:10It's
- 13:11the
- 13:11amount
- 13:11of
- 13:11free
- 13:11drug
- 13:12or
- 13:12unbound
- 13:13drug
- 13:13that
- 13:14is
- 13:14actually
- 13:14active
- 13:15and
- 13:15can
- 13:15exert
- 13:16pharmacological
- 13:16effects.
- 13:18So
- 13:18highly
- 13:19protein
- 13:19bound
- 13:19meds
- 13:20like
- 13:20Prozac,
- 13:20they
- 13:20occupy
- 13:21those
- 13:21receptors
- 13:21more
- 13:22slowly.
- 13:23So
- 13:23keep
- 13:23that
- 13:23in
- 13:23mind,
- 13:24because
- 13:24if
- 13:24you're
- 13:24prescribing
- 13:25something
- 13:25and
- 13:26it's
- 13:26highly
- 13:26protein
- 13:27bound,
- 13:27it's
- 13:27not
- 13:27gonna
- 13:27occupy
- 13:28your
- 13:28receptors
- 13:28as
- 13:29quickly
- 13:29as
- 13:29something
- 13:29that
- 13:29is
- 13:30really
- 13:30not
- 13:30as
- 13:30protein
- 13:31bound.
- 13:31But
- 13:31you
- 13:32have
- 13:32multiple
- 13:32other
- 13:33filters
- 13:33to
- 13:33put
- 13:33that
- 13:34through,
- 13:34right?
- 13:34The
- 13:35genetic
- 13:35makeup
- 13:36of
- 13:36your
- 13:36patient,
- 13:36how
- 13:36dehydrated
- 13:37they
- 13:37are,
- 13:38the
- 13:38affinity
- 13:38for
- 13:38the
- 13:38medication
- 13:39that
- 13:40you're
- 13:40prescribing,
- 13:41right?
- 13:41If
- 13:42you're
- 13:42prescribing
- 13:42Remeron
- 13:43and
- 13:43you're
- 13:43looking
- 13:43for
- 13:44a
- 13:44really
- 13:44good
- 13:44elevation
- 13:45in
- 13:45mood
- 13:45and
- 13:45energy,
- 13:45you
- 13:46want
- 13:46that
- 13:46Norepinephrine
- 13:47kick.
- 13:47Well,
- 13:48Remeron
- 13:48doesn't
- 13:49have
- 13:49a
- 13:49very
- 13:49high
- 13:49affinity
- 13:50for
- 13:50Norepinephrine.
- 13:51Right
- 13:51away
- 13:51at
- 13:517.5,
- 13:52you
- 13:52have
- 13:52to
- 13:52raise
- 13:53the
- 13:53dose
- 13:54for
- 13:54it
- 13:54to
- 13:54start
- 13:55accumulating
- 13:56a
- 13:56little
- 13:56bit
- 13:57for
- 13:57that
- 13:57effect.
- 13:58So
- 13:58keep
- 13:58that
- 13:59in
- 13:59mind,
- 13:59right?
- 13:59If
- 13:59you
- 13:59want
- 14:00more
- 14:00Norepinephrine
- 14:01release,
- 14:01you've
- 14:01got
- 14:02to
- 14:03increase
- 14:03the
- 14:03amount
- 14:04of
- 14:05Remeron.
- 14:06But
- 14:06again,
- 14:07you
- 14:07might
- 14:07have
- 14:07a
- 14:07patient
- 14:08who's
- 14:08a
- 14:08super
- 14:09slow
- 14:09metabolizer
- 14:10of
- 14:10Remeron
- 14:10and
- 14:11those
- 14:11drug
- 14:11levels
- 14:11will
- 14:12build
- 14:12up
- 14:12quicker.
- 14:13So
- 14:13you
- 14:14see
- 14:14how
- 14:14this
- 14:14is
- 14:14all
- 14:14coming
- 14:15full
- 14:15circle.
- 14:15A
- 14:16lot
- 14:16of
- 14:16these
- 14:16things
- 14:16are
- 14:16coming
- 14:17together
- 14:18when
- 14:18circling
- 14:19back
- 14:19to
- 14:19protein
- 14:19binding.
- 14:21Take
- 14:21Zoloft
- 14:21and
- 14:22Depakote.
- 14:22Maybe
- 14:22you
- 14:23prescribe
- 14:23Zoloft
- 14:24and
- 14:25Depakote
- 14:26comes
- 14:26in
- 14:27and
- 14:27just
- 14:27whacks
- 14:28it
- 14:28off
- 14:28those
- 14:28protein
- 14:29molecules.
- 14:29And
- 14:30now
- 14:30you
- 14:30have
- 14:30way
- 14:31more
- 14:31Zoloft
- 14:32in
- 14:33the
- 14:33bloodstream,
- 14:34exerting
- 14:35clinical
- 14:35effects
- 14:36and
- 14:36potentially
- 14:36really
- 14:36bad
- 14:37side
- 14:37effects.
- 14:37More
- 14:38sexual
- 14:38dysfunction,
- 14:38more
- 14:39anxiety
- 14:39because
- 14:40Depakote
- 14:40came
- 14:41in
- 14:41and
- 14:41kicked
- 14:41it
- 14:41off,
- 14:42because
- 14:42they're
- 14:42both
- 14:43protein
- 14:43bound.
- 14:44So
- 14:44you
- 14:44have
- 14:44to
- 14:44think
- 14:45about
- 14:45that
- 14:45too.
- 14:45Just
- 14:45the
- 14:46protein
- 14:46binding
- 14:47competition.
- 14:47It's
- 14:48almost
- 14:48like
- 14:48musical
- 14:48chairs,
- 14:49right?
- 14:49It's
- 14:50almost
- 14:50like
- 14:50a
- 14:50life
- 14:50raft.
- 14:51Depakote
- 14:52comes
- 14:52in
- 14:52and
- 14:52kicks
- 14:52Zoloft
- 14:53off
- 14:53the
- 14:53life
- 14:53raft.
- 14:53And
- 14:54now
- 14:54Zoloft
- 14:54is
- 14:54in
- 14:55the
- 14:55water
- 14:55scrambling
- 14:55and
- 14:56yelling.
- 14:56And
- 14:56those
- 14:56are
- 14:56your
- 14:57side
- 14:57effects.
- 14:57It's
- 14:58important
- 14:58that
- 14:59you
- 14:59think
- 14:59about
- 14:59occupancy
- 15:00each
- 15:00time
- 15:00you
- 15:01see
- 15:01your
- 15:01patient
- 15:01and
- 15:01ask
- 15:02yourself,
- 15:02why
- 15:03is
- 15:03this
- 15:03patient
- 15:03having
- 15:04side
- 15:04effects?
- 15:04Because
- 15:04there's
- 15:05many
- 15:05different
- 15:05reasons
- 15:06they
- 15:06could
- 15:06have
- 15:06side
- 15:06effects
- 15:06that
- 15:07we
- 15:07just
- 15:07explained,
- 15:07right?
- 15:08And
- 15:08it
- 15:08has
- 15:08to
- 15:08do
- 15:09with
- 15:09occupancy.
- 15:10And
- 15:10maybe
- 15:11those
- 15:11receptors
- 15:12are
- 15:12oversaturated
- 15:13with
- 15:13too
- 15:14many
- 15:14neurotransmitters
- 15:15on
- 15:15them.
- 15:16You
- 15:16need
- 15:16to
- 15:16change
- 15:17course
- 15:17and
- 15:17what
- 15:17do
- 15:17you
- 15:17do?
- 15:18Right,
- 15:18so.
- 15:18So
- 15:18if
- 15:18you
- 15:19have
- 15:19a
- 15:19patient
- 15:20where
- 15:20the
- 15:20receptor
- 15:21occupancy
- 15:22is
- 15:22maybe
- 15:22too
- 15:22high,
- 15:22and
- 15:23we
- 15:23can't
- 15:23go
- 15:23in
- 15:23there
- 15:24necessarily
- 15:24and
- 15:24do
- 15:24a
- 15:25PET
- 15:25scan
- 15:25and
- 15:25prove
- 15:26how
- 15:26many
- 15:27serotonin
- 15:28receptors
- 15:28are
- 15:29blocked,
- 15:29we
- 15:30don't
- 15:30have
- 15:30that
- 15:30luxury.
- 15:30What
- 15:30we
- 15:31can
- 15:31do,
- 15:31my
- 15:31friends,
- 15:32is
- 15:32if
- 15:33you're
- 15:33giving
- 15:33Prozac
- 15:34or
- 15:34let's
- 15:34say
- 15:34you're
- 15:34giving
- 15:35Lexapro,
- 15:35and
- 15:36you're
- 15:36like,
- 15:36man,
- 15:37I'm
- 15:37at
- 15:3720
- 15:37milligrams
- 15:38of
- 15:38Lexapro
- 15:38and
- 15:39this
- 15:39patient's
- 15:39not
- 15:39getting
- 15:39any
- 15:40less
- 15:40anxious.
- 15:40Their
- 15:41mood
- 15:41is
- 15:41still
- 15:41not
- 15:41great.
- 15:42They
- 15:42have
- 15:42morning
- 15:43fatigue.
- 15:43Their
- 15:43energy's
- 15:44low.
- 15:44Well,
- 15:45you
- 15:45might
- 15:45be
- 15:46at
- 15:4680%
- 15:46occupancy
- 15:47with
- 15:48DE
- 15:48Lexapro.
- 15:48You
- 15:48can't
- 15:49really
- 15:49do
- 15:49much
- 15:49else
- 15:50as
- 15:50it
- 15:50relates
- 15:50to
- 15:50serotonin
- 15:51because
- 15:51you're
- 15:51at
- 15:52full
- 15:52receptor
- 15:52occupancy,
- 15:53exerting
- 15:54the
- 15:54clinical
- 15:54effect
- 15:54that
- 15:55you
- 15:55need.
- 15:55Maybe
- 15:55they're
- 15:56ruminating
- 15:56less,
- 15:56but
- 15:57they
- 15:57still
- 15:57don't
- 15:57get
- 15:58any
- 15:58joy
- 15:58out
- 15:58of
- 15:58anything.
- 15:59If
- 15:59they're
- 15:59not
- 16:00metabolizing
- 16:00this
- 16:01well,
- 16:01that
- 16:0120
- 16:01milligrams
- 16:02might
- 16:02feel
- 16:02like
- 16:0230
- 16:03milligrams
- 16:03to
- 16:03them.
- 16:04They
- 16:04even
- 16:05have
- 16:05a
- 16:05blunted
- 16:06dopamine
- 16:06response.
- 16:06Remember
- 16:07we
- 16:07talked
- 16:07about
- 16:07in
- 16:08previous
- 16:08episodes
- 16:09that
- 16:09when
- 16:09serotonin
- 16:10is
- 16:10increased
- 16:11more
- 16:11broadly,
- 16:11it
- 16:12can
- 16:12actually
- 16:12act
- 16:12as
- 16:12a
- 16:13brake
- 16:13on
- 16:13dopamine
- 16:14in.
- 16:14In
- 16:14other
- 16:15receptors.
- 16:15So
- 16:16now
- 16:16you're
- 16:16like,
- 16:16what
- 16:16do
- 16:16I
- 16:17do?
- 16:17Could
- 16:17lower
- 16:17the
- 16:17dose
- 16:18of
- 16:18Lexapro
- 16:19to
- 16:19ease
- 16:19off
- 16:20on
- 16:20that
- 16:20dopamine
- 16:21break.
- 16:21You
- 16:22could
- 16:22also
- 16:22go
- 16:22for
- 16:22a
- 16:23dopaminergic
- 16:23medication
- 16:24like
- 16:24Wellbutrin.
- 16:25Remember,
- 16:26when
- 16:26you
- 16:26reach
- 16:26a
- 16:27certain
- 16:27occupancy
- 16:28and
- 16:28you
- 16:28have
- 16:28to
- 16:29tease
- 16:29out
- 16:29where
- 16:29your
- 16:30patient
- 16:30is
- 16:30with
- 16:30respect
- 16:30to
- 16:31that
- 16:31occupancy,
- 16:32you
- 16:32have
- 16:32to
- 16:32ask,
- 16:32do
- 16:33I
- 16:33need
- 16:33to
- 16:33switch
- 16:34neurotransmitter
- 16:35class
- 16:35or
- 16:35augment
- 16:36to
- 16:36a
- 16:37different
- 16:37neurotransmitter
- 16:38class?
- 16:38Because
- 16:39I'm
- 16:39reaching
- 16:39full
- 16:40occupancy
- 16:40here,
- 16:41and
- 16:41you
- 16:41may
- 16:41have
- 16:42to
- 16:42do
- 16:42that.
- 16:42So
- 16:42in
- 16:42other
- 16:42words,
- 16:43there
- 16:43are
- 16:43diminishing
- 16:43returns
- 16:44at
- 16:44a
- 16:44certain
- 16:44point,
- 16:45and
- 16:45it's
- 16:46not
- 16:46always
- 16:46clear
- 16:46to
- 16:46determine
- 16:47where
- 16:47that
- 16:47certain
- 16:47point
- 16:48is.
- 16:48Again,
- 16:49for
- 16:49all
- 16:49the
- 16:49other
- 16:49factors
- 16:50that
- 16:50we
- 16:50talked
- 16:51about.
- 16:51Genotype,
- 16:52dehydration,
- 16:53drug
- 16:53affinity,
- 16:53protein
- 16:54binding,
- 16:54all
- 16:55of
- 16:55those
- 16:55things.
- 16:56Right.
- 16:57And
- 16:57I
- 16:57think
- 16:58that's
- 16:58pretty
- 16:58interesting
- 16:59circling
- 16:59back
- 16:59to
- 16:59Prozac.
- 17:00Interesting
- 17:00medication,
- 17:01long
- 17:01half
- 17:01life.
- 17:02Prozac
- 17:02will
- 17:03maintain
- 17:03occupancy
- 17:04even
- 17:04after
- 17:04you
- 17:04discontinue
- 17:05it,
- 17:05which
- 17:06can
- 17:06be
- 17:06nice.
- 17:06It's
- 17:07kind
- 17:07of
- 17:07a
- 17:07slow,
- 17:07graceful
- 17:08withdrawal
- 17:09rather
- 17:09than
- 17:10this
- 17:10abrupt
- 17:10withdrawal.
- 17:11So
- 17:11if
- 17:11you
- 17:11imagine
- 17:12that
- 17:12school
- 17:12bus
- 17:12again,
- 17:13Prozac
- 17:14is
- 17:14kind
- 17:14of
- 17:14like
- 17:14a
- 17:14little
- 17:15old
- 17:15lady
- 17:15who
- 17:15gracefully
- 17:16walks
- 17:16off
- 17:17the
- 17:17bus
- 17:17really
- 17:17slowly
- 17:18because
- 17:18she
- 17:18doesn't
- 17:18want
- 17:19to
- 17:19fall
- 17:19on
- 17:20her
- 17:20face.
- 17:20And
- 17:21she
- 17:21just
- 17:21slowly,
- 17:21she
- 17:22grabs
- 17:22the
- 17:22railings,
- 17:23she
- 17:23holds
- 17:23on
- 17:24to
- 17:24other
- 17:24passengers.
- 17:25She
- 17:25slowly
- 17:26gets
- 17:26off
- 17:26the
- 17:26bus.
- 17:27And
- 17:27there's
- 17:28no
- 17:28withdrawal
- 17:28effect
- 17:29because
- 17:29it's
- 17:30slow
- 17:30and
- 17:30graceful,
- 17:31as
- 17:31opposed
- 17:31to
- 17:31a
- 17:32fexor
- 17:32very
- 17:33short
- 17:33half
- 17:33life.
- 17:33The
- 17:34withdrawal
- 17:35can
- 17:35be
- 17:35very
- 17:35unpleasant.
- 17:36It's
- 17:36kind
- 17:36of
- 17:37like
- 17:37a
- 17:37kid
- 17:37who's
- 17:37impatient
- 17:38and
- 17:38just
- 17:38jumps
- 17:38out
- 17:38the
- 17:39window
- 17:39trying
- 17:39to
- 17:39squeeze
- 17:40out.
- 17:40It's
- 17:40like,
- 17:40oh,
- 17:40my
- 17:40God,
- 17:41this
- 17:41is
- 17:41miserable.
- 17:41Like,
- 17:42I'm
- 17:42trying
- 17:42to
- 17:42squeeze
- 17:43out
- 17:43this
- 17:43tiny
- 17:43window.
- 17:44This
- 17:44is
- 17:45really
- 17:45miserable
- 17:45and
- 17:45awful.
- 17:46And
- 17:46I'm
- 17:46jumping
- 17:47out
- 17:47right
- 17:47away.
- 17:47And
- 17:48that's
- 17:49how
- 17:49I
- 17:49view
- 17:50again,
- 17:50Receptor
- 17:51occupancy
- 17:51half
- 17:51lives.
- 17:52There's
- 17:53a
- 17:53slow,
- 17:53graceful
- 17:54way
- 17:54to
- 17:54get
- 17:54off
- 17:54the
- 17:54bus.
- 17:54There's
- 17:55a
- 17:55really
- 17:55hectic,
- 17:55unpleasant
- 17:56way
- 17:56to
- 17:56get
- 17:56off
- 17:57the
- 17:57bus.
- 17:57But
- 17:58you
- 17:58know
- 17:58what?
- 17:58In
- 17:58the
- 17:59same
- 17:59analogy
- 17:59here,
- 18:00some
- 18:00kids
- 18:00are
- 18:01thin
- 18:01and
- 18:01agile,
- 18:02and
- 18:02they
- 18:02can
- 18:03get
- 18:03off
- 18:03the
- 18:03bus
- 18:03really
- 18:04quickly.
- 18:04And
- 18:05they
- 18:05don't
- 18:05have
- 18:05weird
- 18:06withdrawal
- 18:06symptoms.
- 18:07Believe
- 18:07it
- 18:07or
- 18:07not,
- 18:07some
- 18:07people
- 18:08just
- 18:08don't
- 18:08withdraw
- 18:09that
- 18:09hard.
- 18:09Even
- 18:10on
- 18:10Effexor,
- 18:10it's
- 18:11definitely
- 18:11the
- 18:11more
- 18:11common
- 18:12one
- 18:12you
- 18:12withdraw
- 18:12off
- 18:13of.
- 18:13But
- 18:13again,
- 18:13it
- 18:14all
- 18:14kind
- 18:14of
- 18:14depends
- 18:15on
- 18:15that
- 18:15unique
- 18:16genetic
- 18:16makeup,
- 18:17other
- 18:17factors
- 18:18at
- 18:18play.
- 18:19And
- 18:19some
- 18:19people
- 18:19can
- 18:20just
- 18:20get
- 18:20off
- 18:20of
- 18:21Xor.
- 18:21Fine.
- 18:22In
- 18:22my
- 18:22experience,
- 18:22most
- 18:23people
- 18:23don't.
- 18:23It
- 18:24is
- 18:24more
- 18:24difficult.
- 18:25The
- 18:25brain
- 18:25zaps.
- 18:26The
- 18:26GI
- 18:27issues
- 18:27when
- 18:27you
- 18:27get
- 18:27off.
- 18:28The
- 18:28irritability,
- 18:28the
- 18:29insomnia,
- 18:29the
- 18:29anxiety.
- 18:30But
- 18:30again,
- 18:31it's
- 18:31not
- 18:31as
- 18:31simple
- 18:31as
- 18:32every
- 18:32single
- 18:33time.
- 18:33Someone's
- 18:33gonna
- 18:33have
- 18:34a
- 18:34hellish
- 18:34time
- 18:34getting
- 18:34off
- 18:35of
- 18:35Zola.
- 18:35But
- 18:35you
- 18:35do
- 18:36wanna
- 18:36proceed
- 18:36cautiously
- 18:37because
- 18:38it
- 18:38can
- 18:38feel
- 18:38like
- 18:38that
- 18:39kid
- 18:39jumping
- 18:39out
- 18:39of
- 18:39the
- 18:39bus
- 18:40window.
- 18:40Right.
- 18:41And
- 18:41that's
- 18:41why
- 18:41we
- 18:41want
- 18:42to
- 18:42mitigate
- 18:43that
- 18:43again,
- 18:43that's
- 18:44probably
- 18:44a
- 18:44different
- 18:45episode,
- 18:46though,
- 18:46my
- 18:46friends.
- 18:47I
- 18:47hope
- 18:47you
- 18:47really
- 18:47enjoyed
- 18:48this
- 18:48episode
- 18:48on
- 18:49occupancy
- 18:49theory.
- 18:50How
- 18:50to
- 18:50define
- 18:51it
- 18:51and
- 18:51what
- 18:51it
- 18:52means
- 18:52and
- 18:52why
- 18:52it's
- 18:52important
- 18:53and
- 18:53what
- 18:53things
- 18:53can
- 18:53compete
- 18:54for
- 18:54occupancy.
- 18:55And
- 18:55I
- 18:55love
- 18:55this.
- 18:56I
- 18:56think
- 18:56it's
- 18:56so
- 18:56important.
- 18:57It
- 18:57unlocks
- 18:58so
- 18:58many
- 18:58principles
- 18:59at
- 18:59once
- 18:59to
- 18:59really
- 19:00give
- 19:00you
- 19:00depth
- 19:00into
- 19:01why
- 19:01you
- 19:01prescribe
- 19:02things.
- 19:03I've
- 19:03said
- 19:03it
- 19:03in
- 19:03previous
- 19:04episodes.
- 19:04It
- 19:05was
- 19:05always
- 19:05odd
- 19:05to
- 19:06me
- 19:06to
- 19:06explain
- 19:07to
- 19:07a
- 19:07patient,
- 19:07well,
- 19:07things
- 19:08didn't
- 19:08work
- 19:08on
- 19:08Lexapro,
- 19:09so
- 19:09let's
- 19:09move
- 19:09to
- 19:09Prozac.
- 19:10It
- 19:10almost
- 19:11feels
- 19:11like
- 19:11this
- 19:11pointless
- 19:12exercise.
- 19:13Sometimes
- 19:13your
- 19:14patients
- 19:14will
- 19:14look
- 19:14at
- 19:14you,
- 19:14like,
- 19:15why?
- 19:15And
- 19:15they
- 19:15lose
- 19:16hope,
- 19:16right?
- 19:16Because
- 19:16they're
- 19:16like,
- 19:17that
- 19:17didn't
- 19:17work
- 19:17and
- 19:18that
- 19:18went
- 19:18so
- 19:18poorly.
- 19:18Why
- 19:19would
- 19:19I
- 19:19hold
- 19:19out
- 19:19for
- 19:19Prozac?
- 19:20I
- 19:20don't
- 19:20think
- 19:20this
- 19:21is
- 19:21going
- 19:21to
- 19:21help
- 19:21me.
- 19:21But
- 19:22when
- 19:22you
- 19:22understand
- 19:22the
- 19:23nitty
- 19:23gritty
- 19:23of,
- 19:23hey,
- 19:24some
- 19:24people
- 19:24metabolize
- 19:25Lexapro
- 19:26way
- 19:26too
- 19:26quickly,
- 19:27and
- 19:27maybe
- 19:28you
- 19:28just
- 19:28didn't
- 19:28get
- 19:28a
- 19:28great
- 19:29effect
- 19:29on
- 19:29that.
- 19:29Maybe
- 19:30there
- 19:30are
- 19:30these
- 19:30other
- 19:31variables
- 19:32that
- 19:32might
- 19:33affect
- 19:33the
- 19:34fact
- 19:34that
- 19:34Lexapro
- 19:35wasn't
- 19:35the
- 19:35best
- 19:35for
- 19:36you.
- 19:36And
- 19:36we
- 19:37can
- 19:37modulate
- 19:37that.
- 19:37We
- 19:38can
- 19:38shape
- 19:38that.
- 19:38A
- 19:38lot
- 19:39of
- 19:39my
- 19:39episodes
- 19:39are
- 19:40attempts
- 19:40by
- 19:40which
- 19:41you
- 19:41can
- 19:41think
- 19:41about
- 19:41this
- 19:42and
- 19:42look
- 19:42at
- 19:43this
- 19:43with
- 19:43HD
- 19:44glasses,
- 19:45right?
- 19:45You
- 19:45can
- 19:46look
- 19:46at
- 19:46this
- 19:46with
- 19:46laser
- 19:47glasses
- 19:47and
- 19:47be
- 19:47like,
- 19:48wait
- 19:48a
- 19:48minute,
- 19:48I
- 19:48know
- 19:49the
- 19:49nuances
- 19:49here.
- 19:49This
- 19:50is
- 19:50what
- 19:50I'm
- 19:50going
- 19:50to
- 19:50try
- 19:50instead,
- 19:51and
- 19:51this
- 19:51is
- 19:52why
- 19:52I'm
- 19:52going
- 19:52to
- 19:52try
- 19:52instead.
- 19:53Empowering
- 19:54you
- 19:54is
- 19:54key.
- 19:55That's
- 19:55all
- 19:55I
- 19:55have
- 19:55today.
- 19:56I
- 19:56can't
- 19:57emphasize
- 19:57enough
- 19:58to
- 19:59go
- 19:59into
- 19:59my
- 19:59show
- 20:00notes,
- 20:00become
- 20:01a
- 20:01Patreon
- 20:01member
- 20:02because
- 20:02you
- 20:03have
- 20:03slide
- 20:03decks
- 20:04full
- 20:04of
- 20:04this
- 20:04information
- 20:05at
- 20:05your
- 20:05fingertips.
- 20:05You
- 20:06can
- 20:06study
- 20:06or
- 20:07review
- 20:07this
- 20:07to
- 20:07empower
- 20:08you
- 20:08in
- 20:08your
- 20:08practice
- 20:08or
- 20:09in
- 20:09school
- 20:09as
- 20:09a
- 20:09student
- 20:10and
- 20:10pass
- 20:10your
- 20:11boards.
- 20:11I
- 20:11can't
- 20:11emphasize
- 20:12enough
- 20:12to
- 20:12become
- 20:12a
- 20:12Patreon
- 20:13member.
- 20:13There
- 20:14are
- 20:14some
- 20:14freebies
- 20:14for
- 20:15Patreon
- 20:15members,
- 20:16and
- 20:16then
- 20:16there's
- 20:16also
- 20:17a
- 20:17paid
- 20:18$5
- 20:18and
- 20:18$10
- 20:19tier
- 20:19a
- 20:19month.
- 20:20We'd
- 20:20very
- 20:20much
- 20:20appreciate
- 20:21your
- 20:21membership.
- 20:22We
- 20:22also
- 20:22release
- 20:23episodes
- 20:24early
- 20:24to
- 20:24those
- 20:24members,
- 20:25pretty
- 20:25much
- 20:26right
- 20:26away
- 20:26when
- 20:26they
- 20:26drop,
- 20:27rather
- 20:27than
- 20:27waiting
- 20:27four
- 20:28or
- 20:28five
- 20:28months
- 20:29for
- 20:29that
- 20:29episode
- 20:29to
- 20:30show
- 20:30up
- 20:30in
- 20:30your
- 20:30feed.
- 20:30So
- 20:31there's
- 20:31pretty
- 20:31cool
- 20:31things
- 20:31there.
- 20:32I
- 20:32highly
- 20:33encourage
- 20:33you.
- 20:33If
- 20:33nothing
- 20:33else,
- 20:34jump
- 20:34on
- 20:34Apple,
- 20:35give
- 20:35us
- 20:35five
- 20:35stars,
- 20:36Write
- 20:36a
- 20:36comment.
- 20:36If
- 20:37we've
- 20:37helped
- 20:37you
- 20:37out,
- 20:38that
- 20:38really
- 20:38helps.
- 20:39But
- 20:39we'd
- 20:39love
- 20:39for
- 20:39you
- 20:40to
- 20:40become
- 20:40a
- 20:40Patreon
- 20:40member
- 20:41because
- 20:41you
- 20:42can
- 20:42also
- 20:42message
- 20:42me
- 20:42directly.
- 20:43I
- 20:43love
- 20:43thinking
- 20:44in
- 20:44analogies,
- 20:44so
- 20:44I
- 20:45would
- 20:45love
- 20:45to
- 20:46open
- 20:46the
- 20:46floor
- 20:46to
- 20:46you
- 20:46and
- 20:47pick
- 20:47your
- 20:47brain.
- 20:47What
- 20:48can
- 20:48we
- 20:48talk
- 20:48about
- 20:48next
- 20:49that
- 20:49you're
- 20:49struggling
- 20:49with
- 20:50or
- 20:50curious
- 20:50about?
- 20:51I
- 20:51love
- 20:51analogies,
- 20:52so
- 20:52I
- 20:52would
- 20:52love
- 20:53to
- 20:53learn
- 20:53the
- 20:53ways
- 20:54you
- 20:54guys
- 20:54are
- 20:54conceptualizing
- 20:55these
- 20:56topics.
- 20:56If
- 20:57we
- 20:57share
- 20:57that
- 20:57together,
- 20:57it
- 20:58will
- 20:58be
- 20:58like
- 20:58the
- 20:58most
- 20:58empowering
- 20:59study
- 20:59hall
- 21:00of
- 21:00all
- 21:00time.
- 21:01I
- 21:01think
- 21:01it
- 21:01would
- 21:01be
- 21:02really
- 21:02remarkable.
- 21:03Remember,
- 21:04every
- 21:04pearl
- 21:05you
- 21:05learn
- 21:05is
- 21:05not
- 21:06just
- 21:06an
- 21:06opportunity
- 21:06to
- 21:07pass
- 21:07the
- 21:07boards.
- 21:07It's
- 21:08not
- 21:08just
- 21:08a.
- 21:09A
- 21:09feather
- 21:09in
- 21:09your
- 21:09cap
- 21:09and
- 21:10some
- 21:10extra
- 21:10knowledge.
- 21:11It's
- 21:11an
- 21:11unique
- 21:12opportunity
- 21:12to
- 21:13make
- 21:13someone's
- 21:13life
- 21:13tangibly
- 21:14better.
- 21:14That's
- 21:15why
- 21:15we're
- 21:15here.
- 21:15That's
- 21:15why
- 21:15we
- 21:16tune
- 21:16into
- 21:16this
- 21:16stuff
- 21:17because
- 21:17if
- 21:17we
- 21:17even
- 21:18learn
- 21:18one
- 21:18thing
- 21:19throughout
- 21:19this
- 21:19episode
- 21:20that
- 21:20empowers
- 21:21us
- 21:21to
- 21:22change
- 21:22a
- 21:22human
- 21:23life
- 21:23or
- 21:23even
- 21:23make
- 21:23a
- 21:24day
- 21:24better
- 21:24for
- 21:25somebody
- 21:25out
- 21:25there,
- 21:26it's
- 21:26worth
- 21:26grabbing
- 21:27the
- 21:27pearl
- 21:28and
- 21:28prepping
- 21:28for
- 21:29practice.
- 21:29Thank
- 21:29you
- 21:29all
- 21:30very
- 21:30much.
- 21:30I'm
- 21:31grateful
- 21:31to
- 21:31each
- 21:32and
- 21:32every
- 21:32one
- 21:32of
- 21:32you,
- 21:32and
- 21:32we
- 21:33will
- 21:33see
- 21:33you
- 21:33next
- 21:33time
- 21:33here
- 21:34on
- 21:34pearls
- 21:35and
- 21:35prep.