Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Christina Anthony, Writer, Comedian, and Actress on the hit ABC series, “Mixed-ish”
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- 0:59Speaker 1: one of those people. Her name is Christina Anthony. You know,
- 1:02Speaker 1: we already talked a little bit. She's based in Los Angeles.
- 1:05Speaker 1: She's from Chicago, way of East St. Louis. So we're
- 1:07Speaker 1: gonna talk about that because I was traveling to stand
- 1:09Speaker 1: up comedians. So I've been in St. Louis, I've been
- 1:12Speaker 1: in Chicago, and I've definitely been in Los Angeles. She's
- 1:15Speaker 1: a most talented actress, writer, vocalist, and comedian. She's originally
- 1:20Speaker 1: from the Chicago comedy scene and is best known as
- 1:22Speaker 1: an alarm or the featured Second City, which we all
- 1:25Speaker 1: know I never went there. It's a talent. I know
- 1:28Speaker 1: that because I never had an improvisational skill. That's something
- 1:31Speaker 1: I could not do. I would tell anybody I cannot act,
- 1:34Speaker 1: but I can tell you a good joke. She's three
- 1:36Speaker 1: times an award nominated Sketch Revenue ske Sketch performer and
- 1:41Speaker 1: performed thousands of shows for Chicago autiences. Currently, Christina is
- 1:44Speaker 1: a series regular on the ABC's Mixes, a Black spin off.
- 1:48Speaker 1: Christina currently starts at Unt Denise on ABC's series returning
- 1:54Speaker 1: for a second season on Tuesday, January twenty six. What
- 1:57Speaker 1: you call regular check, regular check, regular check of this year.
- 2:02Speaker 1: Please work with the money making conversation. She looks like
- 2:04Speaker 1: a diva than me, she said. She does stand up,
- 2:06Speaker 1: but she got that Deeva looked out. Pat y'all, please
- 2:08Speaker 1: work with Christina Anthony. Hey, Sean, thanks for having me.
- 2:14Speaker 1: You know you know you say a multi talented actress, writer, vocalists.
- 2:20Speaker 1: We can stopped right there right now. You look like
- 2:22Speaker 1: you're about the bus out with a good old I'm
- 2:24Speaker 1: telling you, you know what. That's really how I got
- 2:29Speaker 1: my start was doing musicals in uh in Chicago. I
- 2:35Speaker 1: really got to start there. I wouldn't say I love
- 2:38Speaker 1: to do musical theater, and I've worked off Broadway in
- 2:40Speaker 1: New York, But where I really found my groove was
- 2:43Speaker 1: like that funny part in the musical, and I would remember,
- 2:48Speaker 1: I would go to auditions or I would be in
- 2:50Speaker 1: a show and they're like, look, we need to work
- 2:52Speaker 1: on this. This dancing, for sure, you need to practice.
- 2:56Speaker 1: But in the singing, everybody can get better at that.
- 2:58Speaker 1: But the comedy, they're like, you have this down, and
- 3:03Speaker 1: but the dancing, But the dancing though they said you
- 3:06Speaker 1: couldn't dance. The dancing a black person couldn't dance. You know,
- 3:11Speaker 1: we could, we we could, we could do. We could
- 3:12Speaker 1: talk about that. Now, well it's it's different kinds of dancing. Now,
- 3:17Speaker 1: you know, you and Chicago. You know were they dance
- 3:22Speaker 1: in Chicago. We know that. Come on, step, come on,
- 3:26Speaker 1: come on, come on now, And you're telling me in
- 3:28Speaker 1: Chicago you couldn't step. I can step. But when you
- 3:32Speaker 1: go to Broadway for the Lion King, they don't want
- 3:35Speaker 1: to see you do some old lounge dancing in your
- 3:38Speaker 1: church shoes. They want to see some real dancing. So yeah,
- 3:42Speaker 1: not formally chained, but I got it together. So I've
- 3:46Speaker 1: done some dancing off Broadway. But comedy is my sweet spot.
- 3:50Speaker 1: I mean, that's what comes naturally. We know, you know
- 3:53Speaker 1: my history. I left IBM to pursue a career stand
- 3:57Speaker 1: up comedian. Their def jam BT, all all the comedy shows,
- 4:01Speaker 1: UH Road on comedy, sitcom So I cut my teeth
- 4:04Speaker 1: at comedy. Comedy is why the basis of my success,
- 4:08Speaker 1: you know, so what what? What's that? Natural? Always your people?
- 4:11Speaker 1: Comedy is like making a sharp left or right turn
- 4:14Speaker 1: when you're from the Pacific point of view, and that's
- 4:17Speaker 1: where laugh comes from. So, so are you a comedy
- 4:21Speaker 1: actress or comedian? You know what I would say, I
- 4:25Speaker 1: started off as a comedy actress and then eventually, yeah,
- 4:30Speaker 1: I you know, earned my stripes and have done the
- 4:34Speaker 1: rounds in the stand up world. So yeah, I consider
- 4:37Speaker 1: myself a comic now. Um. And then interesting enough, like
- 4:41Speaker 1: when I was in when I came to l A
- 4:43Speaker 1: up in l A ten years now, you know, I
- 4:45Speaker 1: started hitting the stand up scene and people have been
- 4:47Speaker 1: so warm and so welcoming. I mean, they hates you
- 4:52Speaker 1: at first, but once you're in, you in, and I
- 4:55Speaker 1: think there I started to just focus on my stand
- 4:58Speaker 1: up and it was I was really surprised to end
- 5:00Speaker 1: up on Mixed Dish as an access um and as
- 5:04Speaker 1: an improviser. You know, it's just it's just you never know.
- 5:07Speaker 1: So that's why you just kind of keep just saying
- 5:09Speaker 1: yes to the next thing and keep honing those skills
- 5:13Speaker 1: because you don't know where the next opportunity is coming.
- 5:15Speaker 1: But don't ever, you know, just completely throw something away.
- 5:18Speaker 1: So acting, you know, now I have to focus on
- 5:21Speaker 1: that because I'm giving other people's words. It's not my jokes,
- 5:23Speaker 1: I'm writing someone else's, but you're still have beending into
- 5:26Speaker 1: your personality because you know, as a sitcom writer, I
- 5:30Speaker 1: know that what I've written I expected to be funny.
- 5:33Speaker 1: You know, I expected that right there that I've written
- 5:36Speaker 1: certain lized that when you get to that point, some
- 5:38Speaker 1: humors should come out of there. But a talented actress
- 5:41Speaker 1: or an actor, because sometimes find humor. I didn't see
- 5:44Speaker 1: a humor. Are humor that wow, that's funny? Are you
- 5:48Speaker 1: just are natural on your feet? Or just especially those
- 5:50Speaker 1: table reads, because those table reads are like you know,
- 5:53Speaker 1: because you walk away saying make an adjustment to the script.
- 5:56Speaker 1: So a table read can be a nightmare for a
- 5:58Speaker 1: writer or could be a blessing for a writer based
- 6:00Speaker 1: upon how it's done and just playing everybody's table. What
- 6:04Speaker 1: happens is you write the script and then all the
- 6:06Speaker 1: actors and actresses sit around the table along with this
- 6:09Speaker 1: that could producer, and they read every line in the
- 6:11Speaker 1: script to the end of the script. Unless you go
- 6:13Speaker 1: through that, you know, you make notes where that didn't work,
- 6:16Speaker 1: or that or that storyline direction is not making any sense,
- 6:19Speaker 1: or sometimes you might you might increase an actor and
- 6:23Speaker 1: actress's role based on how that reaction was in the script,
- 6:27Speaker 1: you go, wow, I didn't see that. We should build
- 6:28Speaker 1: that up. More So, when you're doing these table reads
- 6:31Speaker 1: and like you said, you're doing somebody else's words. You're
- 6:33Speaker 1: not as a stand up, You're just doing the words
- 6:35Speaker 1: that you created. And you put your bins on that.
- 6:38Speaker 1: What do you what you take when you first get
- 6:40Speaker 1: the script or sitcom script in this case, nixious, what
- 6:43Speaker 1: are you looking for in your scripts? Um? I think
- 6:46Speaker 1: that that, Um, you bring up a great point. It
- 6:49Speaker 1: is somebody else's words. So the first thing I'm gonna
- 6:52Speaker 1: try to do is read the whole thing. And I
- 6:54Speaker 1: have to say, if we're starting out and acting, no
- 6:57Speaker 1: matter what it is, if it's you know, plays or
- 6:59Speaker 1: you're doing on camera, you want to do TV film,
- 7:03Speaker 1: try to get your hands on the whole piece of
- 7:06Speaker 1: the script, the whole body of work. You don't ever
- 7:08Speaker 1: want to just read your part. So that's the first
- 7:10Speaker 1: thing I do is make sure I read the whole
- 7:12Speaker 1: thing so understand what everybody is going through in the episode.
- 7:16Speaker 1: And then I'll go back and circle around to to
- 7:19Speaker 1: my to my scenes and then those scenes really Um,
- 7:23Speaker 1: like you said, yes, kind of bending it towards your personality,
- 7:26Speaker 1: making the words my own. Um, you know, the writers
- 7:30Speaker 1: are writers are amazing. I'm mixed dish. They come from
- 7:32Speaker 1: so many different great shows. But um, there is a
- 7:37Speaker 1: time sometimes I will improvise and maybe throw something in myself,
- 7:41Speaker 1: but I don't do that during the table read. During
- 7:43Speaker 1: the table read, like you said, it's the time for
- 7:44Speaker 1: the network, is there, the producers all, um, the different
- 7:48Speaker 1: departments that we're listening, So you want to do it
- 7:50Speaker 1: word for word and then um, yeah, once I've done that,
- 7:54Speaker 1: I think, you know, try to think about each scene.
- 7:56Speaker 1: They tell you the next day, here's the scene we're
- 7:58Speaker 1: gonna be working on, and then you start working on
- 8:01Speaker 1: that scene and thinking about the things that you want,
- 8:03Speaker 1: what my character wants to achieve. But really also just
- 8:07Speaker 1: even though I have the words, they're acting as if
- 8:10Speaker 1: I'm doing this for the first time, and I think
- 8:12Speaker 1: for improvisers and stand ups that can come. Hopefully it
- 8:16Speaker 1: comes naturally to you because you learn how to do
- 8:19Speaker 1: stand up. The key to stand up is working a
- 8:21Speaker 1: joke over and over again, sometimes for years on the road,
- 8:24Speaker 1: but always making it seem fresh to the audience. And
- 8:27Speaker 1: so that's what I try to do personally. When I
- 8:29Speaker 1: approached the script is even though I've read this, you know,
- 8:32Speaker 1: ten twenty times, even though we've done the scene ten
- 8:34Speaker 1: twenty times, I want to make sure it always sounds fresh,
- 8:37Speaker 1: because when the audience is that, they don't know that
- 8:39Speaker 1: I've been doing it over and over, you know, it's
- 8:42Speaker 1: really funny. I remember when I first went on stage
- 8:45Speaker 1: as a stand up I remember the first time I
- 8:47Speaker 1: did stand up. I gotta stand in ovation, you know,
- 8:50Speaker 1: And it was like one third in the morning. I
- 8:52Speaker 1: was still working at IBM full time, and so I
- 8:54Speaker 1: ran off stage. And so the next time I went
- 8:56Speaker 1: on stage, I had a totally different set. And the
- 8:58Speaker 1: next time I went on stage had a totally different
- 9:00Speaker 1: set that I think I wasn't getting. I didn't get
- 9:02Speaker 1: the response that I gotten the first time. And then
- 9:05Speaker 1: this comic walks up to me and said, hey, man,
- 9:07Speaker 1: why do you keep changing material every week? I said,
- 9:10Speaker 1: don't you supposed to do that? He said no, He said, dude, dude,
- 9:14Speaker 1: whatever you did the first time, you're supposed to still
- 9:16Speaker 1: be doing that. And then adding to the funny parts
- 9:19Speaker 1: of that set. That's how you get to five minutes
- 9:22Speaker 1: ten minutes fifteen minutes, so he said, I said, but
- 9:25Speaker 1: he said, dude, it's a different audience every time you
- 9:28Speaker 1: go on stage. Food. Oh okay, So what she's saying
- 9:33Speaker 1: is basically, you have to do that. You have to
- 9:36Speaker 1: be able to get that to get to that forty
- 9:38Speaker 1: five minutes, unless you do a comedy special, then you
- 9:40Speaker 1: have to do the material or no old new array
- 9:43Speaker 1: of jokes. But your goal is to be funny five minutes,
- 9:48Speaker 1: ten minutes, fifteen minutes, and you may be doing the
- 9:50Speaker 1: same joke maybe two or three years to get it right.
- 9:54Speaker 1: That might be your killer ending or your killer opening,
- 9:57Speaker 1: or you know, you know, you know, you've been on
- 9:59Speaker 1: you've been out in the comedy clothes because at the
- 10:01Speaker 1: end of the shows a lot of times they'd be
- 10:03Speaker 1: paying those tabs, and people be more concerned about paying
- 10:06Speaker 1: the tabs than listen to your jokes on stage. So
- 10:09Speaker 1: you really have to have your killer moments to being
- 10:11Speaker 1: a whole their attention in the end. So, as a
- 10:13Speaker 1: stand up, what has been the most frustrating part of
- 10:16Speaker 1: being a stand up and then the blessing of being
- 10:19Speaker 1: a stand up? Um, well, I will say that was
- 10:23Speaker 1: that what you talked about is a big lesson I
- 10:26Speaker 1: had to learn as an improviser. You know, when I
- 10:29Speaker 1: would work at the Second City, people were paid to
- 10:31Speaker 1: come see us, get a suggestion from them, and do
- 10:34Speaker 1: a completely made up scene and make it look as
- 10:36Speaker 1: if it had been rehearsed. And we could do something
- 10:39Speaker 1: new every single night, every single set. And then when
- 10:43Speaker 1: I transition the stand up, I had to learn, like
- 10:45Speaker 1: you said, how to keep working the same joke over
- 10:47Speaker 1: and over again and adding to it. And that's a
- 10:49Speaker 1: lifelong lesson. I will say, though, one time at the
- 10:54Speaker 1: Second City, I can remember when the check drop, like
- 10:57Speaker 1: you said, when the tabs come called check job. The
- 11:01Speaker 1: checks were being dropped, and this group of ladies, you know,
- 11:04Speaker 1: they were out having a great time and they just
- 11:07Speaker 1: I guess they wanted to split this bill and it
- 11:09Speaker 1: was too complicated trying to figure out who had what
- 11:13Speaker 1: and then how much tip because they were on a
- 11:15Speaker 1: trip and they didn't know they were in a big city.
- 11:18Speaker 1: When you come to a big city, they got to
- 11:20Speaker 1: be so loud. I stopped the show, bent over, went
- 11:27Speaker 1: to the table, grabbed the check and split up the
- 11:31Speaker 1: bill for them and said, why don't you a fift
- 11:34Speaker 1: if each of you putting thirty two dollars. That's a
- 11:37Speaker 1: nice tip back to what I was saying. The audience laughed,
- 11:42Speaker 1: but I was so frustrated, right right, right, But you
- 11:45Speaker 1: had to do that because, like I said, she's absolutely correct.
- 11:48Speaker 1: The one thing that were destroyed stand ups, and you
- 11:50Speaker 1: would know this, Miss Anthony, is drunks. And somehow drunk
- 11:55Speaker 1: women were the worst because somehow when a woman got
- 11:59Speaker 1: dropping public, that means that everything was off. You know,
- 12:02Speaker 1: they didn't care about nothing. They would be the worst people.
- 12:07Speaker 1: That woman at a comedy club was the worst because
- 12:10Speaker 1: you can't tell them nothing once they do, once they've
- 12:12Speaker 1: acknowledge that they're drunk in public, you can't shut them down.
- 12:16Speaker 1: You can't get them out, keep your hands. I don't
- 12:18Speaker 1: care if you white or black. I'm talking about no map.
- 12:20Speaker 1: A drunk woman period and a comedy club is a
- 12:24Speaker 1: natural disaster. To try to gain control of them, either
- 12:27Speaker 1: gonna kick them out or you're just gonna kick about
- 12:30Speaker 1: just one option that I would say. Drunk people period
- 12:33Speaker 1: can be people who talk, Yes, people who talk as
- 12:38Speaker 1: a struggle, but that that that also as the performer,
- 12:42Speaker 1: that's an indication to you go back and work on
- 12:45Speaker 1: this material, tighten up that joke, you know, don't you know?
- 12:49Speaker 1: Sometimes you can be a girl. I would say I
- 12:51Speaker 1: only did that one time where I like broke out
- 12:54Speaker 1: and just was like, let me just talk to y'all
- 12:56Speaker 1: for a second. Uh. But I will say like that
- 13:00Speaker 1: that means you need to tighten something up. It's not funny.
- 13:02Speaker 1: You need to move more quickly and then later go
- 13:05Speaker 1: back home and work on that. You know, put that down.
- 13:08Speaker 1: And also if somebody comes to you afterwards and I
- 13:10Speaker 1: was like, hey, you know, can I can I make
- 13:12Speaker 1: a suggestion? Can I give you something? You know, be
- 13:15Speaker 1: open to that too, because other comics are watching you
- 13:18Speaker 1: and it's so helpful. Um, you can't, you know, you
- 13:21Speaker 1: can't kind of be outside of yourself because in the
- 13:24Speaker 1: moment you feel like, oh the crowd was ganging up
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- 15:31Speaker 1: e r dot ai. You know, the interesting thing about
- 15:34Speaker 1: your career is, like I said, you could act, I
- 15:36Speaker 1: can't act, you know. I. I've had acting opportunities and
- 15:40Speaker 1: perform in the acting capacity. But your ability to be
- 15:44Speaker 1: uh improvisational comic you know I means that you know,
- 15:47Speaker 1: you throw horror scene and she just pulls it out.
- 15:50Speaker 1: You know. I always tell people when you're improving, especially
- 15:54Speaker 1: acting the artist. I always say, if you can get
- 15:55Speaker 1: you have to get the three lines. Get the three
- 15:57Speaker 1: lines of conversation with somebody. The improv, you know, so
- 16:01Speaker 1: you can deliver funny. We were with what techniques that
- 16:04Speaker 1: you use Christina when you were doing your improv. Um,
- 16:09Speaker 1: I would say, and I still use them now because
- 16:11Speaker 1: I see the writers on Mixed to use it. I
- 16:13Speaker 1: still use it in my stand up when I'm writing stuff.
- 16:15Speaker 1: But um, the rule of three is invaluable, you know,
- 16:19Speaker 1: so learning if you can learn that, um, it's pretty easy.
- 16:23Speaker 1: So when you're setting up a joke, you know you
- 16:25Speaker 1: want to if you're listing items, you know the first
- 16:28Speaker 1: thing fits in the category, the second day fits in
- 16:31Speaker 1: the category, and then where you make the sharp turn
- 16:34Speaker 1: and you make the third thing? What what the punches
- 16:38Speaker 1: are the joke? Um? And then in improv, we have
- 16:41Speaker 1: a rule of always learning to say yes. And so
- 16:45Speaker 1: somebody comes to you and says, man, did you see
- 16:48Speaker 1: that man walking down the street with the blue hat?
- 16:51Speaker 1: You don't stop the joke to say no, I didn't
- 16:54Speaker 1: see that. You say yeah, and he was walking to alligator.
- 16:58Speaker 1: You know, you want to keep adding to the bit
- 17:01Speaker 1: when you're in and that's when you're telling jokes with
- 17:03Speaker 1: somebody else an ensemble, and it also works on mixtage.
- 17:06Speaker 1: We try to do that too. You know, our our
- 17:09Speaker 1: family is hilarious, you know, uh Kenya Barris and Tracy
- 17:14Speaker 1: Ellis for ourselves created this world and we're just trying
- 17:16Speaker 1: to keep it going. It's a prequel and you know,
- 17:19Speaker 1: take a Sumthing or Paul Gossler, uh Gary Cole. They're
- 17:23Speaker 1: all like really well known actors and comedians. And so
- 17:28Speaker 1: even if though the work is scripted, I'm still saying
- 17:30Speaker 1: yes to the bits, to the jokes that you have,
- 17:33Speaker 1: and I'm trying to keep them going. You know. Now,
- 17:35Speaker 1: now when I look at your bio, I see stand
- 17:38Speaker 1: up but also see serious roles. You know, I'm assuming
- 17:41Speaker 1: that why women killed that wasn't a comedy moment. Uh
- 17:45Speaker 1: eer the dilemma? So how will we able? Because but
- 17:48Speaker 1: then I see multi talented actress. You do put it
- 17:51Speaker 1: at the very tough front. But Joe says, of comedic
- 17:54Speaker 1: side on it, how did you translate a serious role
- 17:58Speaker 1: in a comedic role? Because I wanted my listeners to
- 18:00Speaker 1: hear that, in my viewers to hear that about a
- 18:02Speaker 1: person who says talented as you because you're willing to
- 18:05Speaker 1: not limit yourself, and that's what you say. If an
- 18:08Speaker 1: opportunity that comes to you, Christina, You're going to present
- 18:11Speaker 1: yourself for that opportunity, correct, for sure? For sure? Yeah,
- 18:15Speaker 1: I think you know. Why Woman Kills a good example
- 18:18Speaker 1: of UM. That's a show about women who murder their husbands.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Is very funny. If you haven't seen it, check it out.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Those sister of one of the women that UM. But
- 18:31Speaker 1: I think even in that role, I still was being
- 18:34Speaker 1: a comedian. But in a serious moment, like we think back,
- 18:38Speaker 1: you can think back of like UM in black families,
- 18:42Speaker 1: like when somebody passes away, even though it is a
- 18:45Speaker 1: somber occasion and there it is a sad event and
- 18:48Speaker 1: it's a transition, there's still somebody that you know, Uncle
- 18:52Speaker 1: Pete always ask somebody, can't you get a ride to
- 18:54Speaker 1: the refest? Why don't you have a car? You know?
- 18:57Speaker 1: Or you know unleas it's always gonna your boyfriend to
- 19:00Speaker 1: a funeral? Why are you doing this? And you realize
- 19:03Speaker 1: you find you know the funny moments even in the
- 19:06Speaker 1: tragedy and your family. So I think so Whylo mckill
- 19:09Speaker 1: is a good example of that. It's about a serious
- 19:12Speaker 1: topic of domestic abuse and murder, but the sister is
- 19:17Speaker 1: like I think I played sister this like girl, I
- 19:20Speaker 1: always knew that wasn't the man for you. You know,
- 19:23Speaker 1: it's like, why are you guys having at this point
- 19:25Speaker 1: we're trying to put a murder together, but there's always
- 19:27Speaker 1: like somebody like that. So I think finding those light moments,
- 19:31Speaker 1: you know, or people I can remember when my grandmother passed.
- 19:34Speaker 1: You know, people's problem. You're funny, you know what what I'm saying.
- 19:39Speaker 1: You're not even You're not even trying. You're just talking
- 19:42Speaker 1: and I'm just laughing, and you just really just just
- 19:45Speaker 1: really just having the conversation with me. But it's such
- 19:48Speaker 1: a relatable conversation. That's your blessing, you know. So yeah, yeah,
- 19:53Speaker 1: Now you say you started in East St. Louis, How
- 19:55Speaker 1: did you make it up to Chicago. I grew up
- 19:58Speaker 1: in East St. Louis and know the famous people from
- 20:01Speaker 1: me St. Louis are Miles Davis Jack, he joined a Kurtsey,
- 20:05Speaker 1: the Olympian and and me and you metain wanted from St. Louis,
- 20:13Speaker 1: such as the entertainers from St. Louis. I think, which
- 20:16Speaker 1: is the fancy city on the other side of the
- 20:19Speaker 1: Loverlle Crawford Loverlle Crawford from what I'm St. St. Louis
- 20:25Speaker 1: is on the other side in Illinois. Yeah, and it's
- 20:29Speaker 1: you know, it's the cut, it's it's tough over that.
- 20:31Speaker 1: It's tough over that, I know. Yeah. Yeah. So but
- 20:35Speaker 1: I went to college and you and I in Champagne,
- 20:38Speaker 1: which is a little bit outside of Chicago, ninety minutes.
- 20:42Speaker 1: And so afterwards, all my friends, I think my boyfriend
- 20:45Speaker 1: at the time, they went back after graduation, they went
- 20:48Speaker 1: to Chicago. So I just moved there to follow your man.
- 20:51Speaker 1: You followed your man to Chicago or you just my
- 20:54Speaker 1: man at the time said there you go. And if
- 20:59Speaker 1: you go, I'm gonna say, don't follow a man places.
- 21:01Speaker 1: But if you're gonna follow a man, do it after college,
- 21:05Speaker 1: I mean, but be on your own right. And so
- 21:11Speaker 1: I started my art career. So your your college degree
- 21:14Speaker 1: was what my college degree is actually in psychology. Okay,
- 21:19Speaker 1: my college degree is mathematics, so neither you know nothing.
- 21:24Speaker 1: My mind was sociology, but my degree was mathematics. And
- 21:28Speaker 1: so I went to work for IBM. So when you
- 21:30Speaker 1: went from Champagne, got your degree, packed your bag, following
- 21:33Speaker 1: homeboard to Chicago. You got a job. What was your
- 21:36Speaker 1: first job? My first job. So my degree was in
- 21:39Speaker 1: social side I think with social psychology, child psychology. I
- 21:43Speaker 1: can't remember now, but it was a social work basically
- 21:45Speaker 1: a social work type bachelor's. So I went to work.
- 21:48Speaker 1: I went I think I went to work for the
- 21:50Speaker 1: university doing outreach like art programs, so I was still
- 21:55Speaker 1: art adjacent. And the reason I didn't go to college
- 21:59Speaker 1: for a thing, which maybe some of your listeners are
- 22:02Speaker 1: like at that age and they're thinking about doing that, um,
- 22:05Speaker 1: was because my parents they went to segregated schools. They
- 22:07Speaker 1: came from Tennessee and they were like, you are you know,
- 22:10Speaker 1: I was second generation to go to college, but first
- 22:13Speaker 1: generation out of segregation. And they were like, you know,
- 22:15Speaker 1: how'll go to school to be an actor. You're gonna
- 22:17Speaker 1: get a real job. There's just too much on the line.
- 22:22Speaker 1: But my father said, if you're really good, it's gonna
- 22:25Speaker 1: find you. And so I went to school for something else.
- 22:29Speaker 1: But then after that, you know, I kind of became
- 22:31Speaker 1: a journeyman, right. I had to piece my our education together.
- 22:35Speaker 1: So I started taking acting classes at night, and then
- 22:38Speaker 1: I got into a play with other actors that had
- 22:40Speaker 1: been to acting school. So I would watch them and
- 22:42Speaker 1: see what they would do, how would they learn their scripts?
- 22:45Speaker 1: How would they break stuff down? You know even now
- 22:48Speaker 1: too when I go to comedy you know, not so
- 22:50Speaker 1: much right now during COVID, but when I would go
- 22:52Speaker 1: to comedy shows, you know, I'm watching other people to
- 22:55Speaker 1: see what you do. And so much of um this
- 22:59Speaker 1: business you can't us. You don't You're not just what
- 23:01Speaker 1: you want to be. But you need to study to
- 23:03Speaker 1: become that. But you can study in a variety of ways.
- 23:07Speaker 1: That's not college. Well many stand ups. No, you don't
- 23:10Speaker 1: go absolutely. I you know, you learn on the road.
- 23:13Speaker 1: But you know I look at you and uh, you know,
- 23:16Speaker 1: I you know, I went through and did my little
- 23:18Speaker 1: extra work on what they sent over, and you know,
- 23:20Speaker 1: you have so many different looks. That's on social media.
- 23:24Speaker 1: You know what I think is a blessing. You know,
- 23:26Speaker 1: because you you can't be pigeonholed. You know you can
- 23:30Speaker 1: character you know, fantastic and fantastic character actress. And because
- 23:35Speaker 1: you know you can look homely, you can look beautiful.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I saw some homely photos. Now I would just look homely. Yea.
- 23:42Speaker 1: I put the homely and a beautiful photo together. A's
- 23:44Speaker 1: just the same person. So I went, that's a that's
- 23:46Speaker 1: a that's beyond acting, you know, to be able to
- 23:48Speaker 1: pull that off. But the beauty of you know, you know,
- 23:52Speaker 1: just mind everybody. I'm talking to. Christina Anthony, I wanted
- 23:55Speaker 1: the star as a nixus uh on the ABC series
- 23:58Speaker 1: that follows Blackish. Uh. You know she plays on to
- 24:01Speaker 1: Denis on the ABC series. Uh, she's out of Chicago.
- 24:05Speaker 1: You know the Second City, one of the famous Second City. Uh.
- 24:08Speaker 1: Uh what the John Belushi? Who all came out of
- 24:11Speaker 1: Second City? It's name some of the famous Saturday Live
- 24:14Speaker 1: alarms that came out of the Second City. Yeah, Belushi,
- 24:17Speaker 1: Tina Fey, um, many people. But John Canny came out
- 24:24Speaker 1: of there. I don't think he was on us another thing,
- 24:26Speaker 1: but yeah, a lot of people have. And then a
- 24:28Speaker 1: lot of people they didn't go out to S and
- 24:30Speaker 1: L like Stephen Colbert came out of there. It's really
- 24:34Speaker 1: amazing that. Uh. So, before I let you go, because
- 24:38Speaker 1: I feel that, you know, when I look at your
- 24:40Speaker 1: career and I look at your resume, I have to
- 24:43Speaker 1: believe in myself speaking honestly, the star is only gonna
- 24:46Speaker 1: get brighter for you. I I you know, COVID, the
- 24:50Speaker 1: COVID sett us all back. But I think in my life,
- 24:52Speaker 1: I feel that it's only let you catch up with
- 24:54Speaker 1: your competition. You're coming back in January where the show
- 24:57Speaker 1: that's on the air, and so it it focuses you
- 25:00Speaker 1: and tells you what your gifts are. And I think
- 25:03Speaker 1: your gifts is if I'm looking at you, I'm managing you.
- 25:06Speaker 1: I say that it's unlimited. First of all, this is
- 25:10Speaker 1: me just looking at the person I've seen. I've been
- 25:12Speaker 1: blessed to be working with a lot of star talent,
- 25:14Speaker 1: and you're attractive. You you you are just naturally funny.
- 25:18Speaker 1: I mean, you just start talking, Christina, and you're funny,
- 25:21Speaker 1: and that's very key, you know I And so I
- 25:25Speaker 1: just know that you can do drama. You you I
- 25:27Speaker 1: haven't heard you singing, but you know you you bold
- 25:30Speaker 1: enough tell me that you got the chops because you've
- 25:32Speaker 1: said Broadway several times during our interview. So obviously somebody
- 25:35Speaker 1: let you in the room and let you make some
- 25:38Speaker 1: noise and it made sense and it sounded like singing,
- 25:40Speaker 1: and everybody said she got the scale, and uh, but
- 25:43Speaker 1: what does the future hope for you? Besides me being
- 25:46Speaker 1: so caught off guard by how talented as you are
- 25:48Speaker 1: because you never know what you interview somebody, because some
- 25:51Speaker 1: people can be uh, you know, just really good at
- 25:53Speaker 1: what they do. I think you can be good at
- 25:55Speaker 1: anything that you do. Yes, well, first of all, thank
- 25:58Speaker 1: you so much for that. Um. Yeah, I consider myself
- 26:01Speaker 1: a comedians comedian, so I aspire to to still just
- 26:07Speaker 1: be really good at what I'm doing, no matter what
- 26:10Speaker 1: level it's at. So if I'm teaching children after school
- 26:13Speaker 1: how to write jokes, which is something I love to do,
- 26:16Speaker 1: or if I'm in a big film, that's great too. Um.
- 26:19Speaker 1: But as far as what's next, I love my job
- 26:23Speaker 1: is undanis on ABC's Mixed Dish. Um. But eventually, you know,
- 26:28Speaker 1: all things come to an end. So I was, I
- 26:30Speaker 1: can't wait to see, like what the next job is.
- 26:32Speaker 1: I'm also very interested in getting into um film and
- 26:37Speaker 1: doing I love. I'm obsessed with action movies, Marvel movies. Um,
- 26:43Speaker 1: what's your favorite action movie? Because I love action movies
- 26:45Speaker 1: like you know, I love what What? What? What? What?
- 26:49Speaker 1: Acution movies this year caught your eye on on Netflix alone?
- 26:53Speaker 1: Do you watch Netflix? Yes? I do? Come on, come on,
- 27:00Speaker 1: come on. That was a sleeperhead right when she walked
- 27:05Speaker 1: out there. We talked March show. Lease walked up to
- 27:07Speaker 1: I'll be right back. I'll get you a signal, and
- 27:09Speaker 1: she walked out that door and wipe all those men.
- 27:13Speaker 1: I said, that's my girl right there, that right there.
- 27:15Speaker 1: That movie was so unexpected, right, I didn't know what
- 27:17Speaker 1: to think of it. It was so amazing. Yes, I
- 27:20Speaker 1: love to try my hand in action. Of course. You know,
- 27:22Speaker 1: black panther holes such a special place in my heart.
- 27:26Speaker 1: I love that, so yeah, I would love that. I'm
- 27:29Speaker 1: also like, I sell in my eyes, I'm doing a
- 27:31Speaker 1: comedy special, my brand of comedy. Um, and then I
- 27:36Speaker 1: love to have my own sitcom. You know you kind
- 27:39Speaker 1: of got up on your chair on that one. I'm
- 27:41Speaker 1: going through, Okay, you know all. I know you probably
- 27:45Speaker 1: got super management around your twop of ages around you.
- 27:47Speaker 1: But you know I always know the call with Shaw,
- 27:49Speaker 1: you know I did that. You want to get it
- 27:53Speaker 1: from some people, but of course you're working with Kenya Barrass.
- 27:55Speaker 1: You know you can't get any better than that. So
- 27:57Speaker 1: I'm sure you can walk through the next door and
- 27:59Speaker 1: pitch your ideas to those people over there. But again,
- 28:02Speaker 1: got an idea, you open your mouth to anybody that
- 28:05Speaker 1: we listen. I love you for that. Again, I want
- 28:08Speaker 1: to thank you for coming on my show. You you
- 28:10Speaker 1: really really all you know. You've been introduced to me
- 28:13Speaker 1: and I'm a fan. I'm gonna follow you and uh,
- 28:15Speaker 1: I'm support you have anything that you're doing. I'm gonna
- 28:18Speaker 1: definitely a post you on my social media. You are
- 28:21Speaker 1: the star of of Mixes as far as I'm concerned,
- 28:24Speaker 1: because guess what, I've interviewed job, also interviewed Teaker, but
- 28:26Speaker 1: I'm interviewing you right now. You are the star Deniece
- 28:30Speaker 1: that appears. On January twenty six, Tuesday, Mixes returns for
- 28:34Speaker 1: a second season on ABC. Thank you for coming to
- 28:37Speaker 1: my show. Oh, thank you so much for having me
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