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- 2:20Speaker 1: Denise Williams. She's one of the youngest real estate brokerage
- 2:23Speaker 1: owners in the United States. She's a multimillion dollar, top
- 2:27Speaker 1: producing real estate agent and has the largest black woman
- 2:30Speaker 1: owned real estate brokerage in Atlanta, with over sixty sixty
- 2:33Speaker 1: agents on her team. Denis is also the chief information
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- 2:57Speaker 1: conversation for her very first time, and she's looking fantastic.
- 3:00Speaker 1: She's looking like an angel Is Denise Williams. How you doing, Denise,
- 3:04Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I appreciate that. Well. First of all,
- 3:08Speaker 1: you know we're in the era coming out of we're
- 3:10Speaker 1: coming out of COVID. You know, we may we I
- 3:13Speaker 1: shouldn't say that the rules have changed of COVID, you know,
- 3:16Speaker 1: because we seems like we're gonna exist with COVID throughout
- 3:19Speaker 1: at least my lifetime. Because they're talking about booster shot
- 3:23Speaker 1: you have to get annually, like the flu shots and
- 3:25Speaker 1: things like that. The first out of the box you
- 3:28Speaker 1: experienced like all people were shocked, like all people, but
- 3:33Speaker 1: somehow the real estate industry was still booming doing COVID.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Talk to me about that, absolutely, so it was definitely
- 3:42Speaker 1: a shock. Um. You know, no one really anticipated what
- 3:46Speaker 1: COVID would bring to our lives, right but real estate.
- 3:51Speaker 1: We really had an incredible year with regards to real estate.
- 3:54Speaker 1: One of the main drivers were that was the fact
- 3:57Speaker 1: that interest rates were at such an all time low.
- 4:00Speaker 1: I mean, there were so many buyers that were able
- 4:02Speaker 1: to enter the market and get you know, less than
- 4:04Speaker 1: three percent interest rate on their homes, and then those
- 4:07Speaker 1: who already owned homes were able to use the refinancing
- 4:10Speaker 1: programs in order to get even lower interest rates than
- 4:13Speaker 1: what they currently had. So because of that, there was
- 4:16Speaker 1: such a rush of people wanting to buy. Uh that
- 4:19Speaker 1: really just increase the purchase prices brought things through the roof.
- 4:24Speaker 1: On top of the fact that I'm here in Atlanta,
- 4:26Speaker 1: where you know, we make social media from. Because of
- 4:29Speaker 1: social media, it looks like the best place on Earth,
- 4:32Speaker 1: which I'm biased because I live here. I think it
- 4:34Speaker 1: is the best place on her to live. And so
- 4:36Speaker 1: we have such an influx of people who are coming
- 4:38Speaker 1: and relocating here to experience some of this black excellence,
- 4:42Speaker 1: to experience the culture and just the energy of the city.
- 4:45Speaker 1: So our purchase prices are going through the route. Really
- 4:49Speaker 1: not only just in Atlanta. I know my wife is
- 4:51Speaker 1: in Houston and she was selling her mom's home and
- 4:55Speaker 1: the asking price was like a hundred and seventy thousand dollars.
- 5:00Speaker 1: She sold for over two hundred thousand dollars and she
- 5:03Speaker 1: and it wasn't because she was raising the price. It
- 5:06Speaker 1: became a bidding war. It was like it was like
- 5:08Speaker 1: the home, I'll be honest with the home was not
- 5:11Speaker 1: just a nice little Pattio home, single story, you know, uh,
- 5:15Speaker 1: nondescript community neighborhood in Houston, Texas. And it was just
- 5:20Speaker 1: she had like fourteen buyers, like within three weeks. What
- 5:24Speaker 1: is great and the shortest It's incredible how many buyers
- 5:27Speaker 1: were overbidding on properties. I have buyers now that are
- 5:31Speaker 1: not even asking for a closing costs. That's almost unheard
- 5:34Speaker 1: of right now in our market. Uh, the your praise
- 5:36Speaker 1: values aren't always coming in, but you have buyers now
- 5:40Speaker 1: paying the difference between what's being lended to them and
- 5:43Speaker 1: that appraise value in order to get into these homes.
- 5:46Speaker 1: When you get these titles, you know, one of the
- 5:48Speaker 1: youngest real estate brokerage owners in the United States, you know,
- 5:52Speaker 1: and you get those financial numbers attached to you, so
- 5:54Speaker 1: people expect certain things from him multimillion dollar deal closer,
- 5:59Speaker 1: and your woman don't. So let's talk about the youth
- 6:02Speaker 1: for the youth part of viewer of your career right
- 6:05Speaker 1: now and how the benefits of it and also the
- 6:09Speaker 1: building that experience and respect level. Absolutely so, when I
- 6:13Speaker 1: became a real estate broker, I was pretty young, and
- 6:17Speaker 1: there weren't many other women or Black women especially that
- 6:20Speaker 1: I could really look at and get experience from. So
- 6:24Speaker 1: being a pioneer comes with a lot, especially when you're
- 6:28Speaker 1: a black woman. So I had to really just say
- 6:31Speaker 1: within myself that you know what, it doesn't matter if
- 6:33Speaker 1: other people have paved the way for me in order
- 6:35Speaker 1: to do this. I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna try it.
- 6:37Speaker 1: What's the worst that can happen, you know? And so
- 6:40Speaker 1: it's been the best decision that I could have made,
- 6:43Speaker 1: being able to inspire other women of color to now
- 6:46Speaker 1: start other broke bridges, even within my own team, having
- 6:49Speaker 1: some of those ages to create teams under my brook
- 6:52Speaker 1: Bridge or branching out and starting their own. So it's
- 6:55Speaker 1: been a beautiful journey to be able to make that
- 6:57Speaker 1: decision and make that happen on the flix out of it.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Because you don't necessarily have a road map. You have
- 7:03Speaker 1: to go through the trials and tripulations on your own.
- 7:06Speaker 1: You know, I've had you know, I've lost a ton
- 7:08Speaker 1: of money. This is actually my second brokerage because the
- 7:11Speaker 1: first brokerage that I had, I went into partnership with
- 7:13Speaker 1: someone and it wasn't a good thing, didn't work out.
- 7:16Speaker 1: So you have to go through a lot of trials
- 7:18Speaker 1: and error, uh, lose a lot of money and then
- 7:21Speaker 1: still keep going if it's something that you really, really
- 7:23Speaker 1: truly want to do that Okay, So the next question
- 7:27Speaker 1: is being that you're female, Like I said, you're young,
- 7:30Speaker 1: you're African American, and then the fact that you've already
- 7:33Speaker 1: publicly admitted in this interview that just what they're gonna
- 7:36Speaker 1: be some hiccups, and some of those hiccups are gonna
- 7:39Speaker 1: cost you money. How do you overcome that? It wasn't
- 7:42Speaker 1: tied to not having a budget, tied to not going
- 7:46Speaker 1: into business with the right person. What what made you
- 7:49Speaker 1: stumble on that first? That made you also say I
- 7:52Speaker 1: won't stumble like that again. Absolutely, So the biggest thing
- 7:56Speaker 1: is I didn't take my time in doing my due diligence.
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- 10:59Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you this, Deniece, when I when
- 11:01Speaker 1: I look at you, I look at the talent of
- 11:02Speaker 1: the person. But you know, I just read some nice
- 11:06Speaker 1: credits about you. You know that they sent over to me.
- 11:08Speaker 1: Who are you? Who am I? So me? Personally, I
- 11:14Speaker 1: am obviously a real estate broker here in Atlanta, but
- 11:18Speaker 1: more on a personal level, I am a mother before anything.
- 11:21Speaker 1: I think that's the most powerful title that I've ever
- 11:24Speaker 1: had to a son named Destin, who's actually the co
- 11:27Speaker 1: owner in my business. And one of the things I
- 11:29Speaker 1: want to encourage the listeners out there, especially parents, is
- 11:32Speaker 1: that you need to make sure that you're taking your
- 11:35Speaker 1: children along the journey. So one of the things that
- 11:37Speaker 1: I do with my son is I don't actually make
- 11:39Speaker 1: any decisions in my business without his approval. He gets
- 11:42Speaker 1: to see every commission check that I earned. He helps
- 11:45Speaker 1: me to hire and to fire. Uh, he gives me
- 11:47Speaker 1: his opinion on things of that nature. Because I think
- 11:50Speaker 1: that it's so important that we stopped being just first
- 11:53Speaker 1: generation millionaires, our first business owners in our family or
- 11:56Speaker 1: first this and first that at some point we have
- 11:59Speaker 1: to start leaving a legacy where our children are second
- 12:01Speaker 1: and third and fourth generations to the businesses that we created.
- 12:05Speaker 1: So personally, I'm just so driven by legacy and just
- 12:09Speaker 1: teaching not only my students in my cee on our
- 12:12Speaker 1: academy how to become owners, but also in my very
- 12:15Speaker 1: own households. That's something that I'm personally very passionate about.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Now being a member of a very powerful sisterhood, uh,
- 12:24Speaker 1: the ladies of Delta Sigma Data and come on, come
- 12:29Speaker 1: on now, I'm a proud member of MAGA Side five
- 12:33Speaker 1: Fraternity Incorporated. So again, the blessings are we have a
- 12:37Speaker 1: certain nub leon is as they say, which just runs
- 12:40Speaker 1: back to the fraternity in the sorority. But that helps
- 12:43Speaker 1: having that relationship that you can turn to sisters who trust,
- 12:46Speaker 1: who want you to have that upwardly mobile mobile concept
- 12:51Speaker 1: in life and also are pushing you with relationships that
- 12:54Speaker 1: you can count on. I think that really helped you
- 12:57Speaker 1: as well. And I want to talk about the value
- 12:58Speaker 1: of relationships as it is with your what your sorority,
- 13:02Speaker 1: but also in life because you've gotta have relationships to
- 13:04Speaker 1: win absolutely. So with regard to being in a sorority,
- 13:09Speaker 1: it was a beautiful experience to be able to join
- 13:11Speaker 1: in Delta Sigma Data's already incorporated. It was absolutely amazing.
- 13:15Speaker 1: In fact, my first real estate transaction back into thousand
- 13:18Speaker 1: and twelve when I got my license was one of
- 13:20Speaker 1: my gone sisters. So that was the benefit of like
- 13:23Speaker 1: actually being in a sorority because you can be honest
- 13:26Speaker 1: with him, right you can tell them's your first time,
- 13:28Speaker 1: and they're gonna be patient with you and they're gonna
- 13:30Speaker 1: give you that opportunity versus really going out with a
- 13:33Speaker 1: stranger and taking them through the process and making a
- 13:35Speaker 1: lot of mistakes. So I really appreciate my line sister
- 13:38Speaker 1: for being willing to do that and to trust me
- 13:41Speaker 1: in that process, being that it was my very first transaction.
- 13:44Speaker 1: And as far as just relationships across the board, relationships
- 13:48Speaker 1: are gonna get you indoors that money can't buy. And
- 13:52Speaker 1: I tell people that all the time. I have to
- 13:54Speaker 1: appreciate relationships with people and never play the short game.
- 13:58Speaker 1: You always want to make sure that when you're thinking
- 14:00Speaker 1: about business, especially in the service based industry, never think
- 14:04Speaker 1: about someone as a transaction. Never think about that is
- 14:07Speaker 1: just a one time, a one hit wonder, if you will,
- 14:10Speaker 1: because you're not only servicing that person, they're watching you
- 14:14Speaker 1: to be able to service their friends and their family. So,
- 14:17Speaker 1: especially in the real estate business, you want to have
- 14:20Speaker 1: a repeat and referral business. That's the only way that
- 14:23Speaker 1: you can make it through. Okay, let's go and listen.
- 14:26Speaker 1: You're an attractive woman, and so in the business where
- 14:29Speaker 1: people can only see you for being attractive, but you
- 14:32Speaker 1: also a businesswoman. So how do you make sure people
- 14:35Speaker 1: understand who you are? Who's de niece Williams. You're about business.
- 14:38Speaker 1: Don't let the cold food, you don't let the makeup food,
- 14:41Speaker 1: you don't let the hair fool you. That's this, you know,
- 14:43Speaker 1: because some people try to try to blend that, try
- 14:45Speaker 1: to make it make your your calls or make their
- 14:49Speaker 1: business deals. You're trying to close to be more than
- 14:51Speaker 1: what it really is. How do you make that define
- 14:54Speaker 1: that line about business and business? I respect me for
- 14:58Speaker 1: doing good business, all right, So that's an incredible question.
- 15:02Speaker 1: I actually never been asked that question before. So one
- 15:05Speaker 1: of the things that I take pride and is expect
- 15:07Speaker 1: myself on social media. I'm not gonna show a lot
- 15:10Speaker 1: of skin on social sure that people are looking at
- 15:13Speaker 1: me as a business person, as a professional bee both
- 15:16Speaker 1: in personal and professional lifestyles. If you're showing people one
- 15:20Speaker 1: thing and you're portraying something that they're gonna try you, Uh,
- 15:23Speaker 1: that's just the nature of what it is. And even
- 15:25Speaker 1: with regard to conversation, you want to make sure that
- 15:28Speaker 1: you're keeping all of your conversations about business. If you
- 15:31Speaker 1: find that you're working with a client who is taking
- 15:33Speaker 1: that conversation to the left field, then you want to
- 15:36Speaker 1: check it at that time. You don't want to go
- 15:37Speaker 1: down that rabbit hole and entertain it and keep key
- 15:40Speaker 1: with this person. Because Number one, you have to make
- 15:43Speaker 1: sure that you're protecting your reputation. Especially as you elevate
- 15:46Speaker 1: in the stage that I'm at in business, it's gonna
- 15:48Speaker 1: be even more important for me to make sure that
- 15:51Speaker 1: people aren't saying the wrong things about me and how
- 15:54Speaker 1: I've been able to get to where I am. What's
- 15:56Speaker 1: important because right now you are have like sixty agents
- 16:00Speaker 1: said under your business umbrella. Now I'm gonna be honest
- 16:04Speaker 1: with you. You're doing something I can't do. Okay, I
- 16:06Speaker 1: people say it was because it's a unique thought process.
- 16:09Speaker 1: You have to you have to be patient. One thing.
- 16:12Speaker 1: You have to be patient. You have to be knowledgeable
- 16:14Speaker 1: of the of the trends. You have to be like
- 16:17Speaker 1: on your feet accountant or because people ask you numbers
- 16:21Speaker 1: all the time. What really got you into the business?
- 16:25Speaker 1: You know and being in real estate because your degree
- 16:29Speaker 1: was in finance out of Valdosta right, yes, okay, so
- 16:32Speaker 1: that that didn't say anything about real estate. So how
- 16:35Speaker 1: did you make the shift to this? Yeah? Absolutely great questions.
- 16:39Speaker 1: So when I graduated with a degree in finance from
- 16:41Speaker 1: Badasa State University, I went to corporate route. I went
- 16:44Speaker 1: into a position that I felt was one of the
- 16:47Speaker 1: probably the worst jobs I've been right, and the reason
- 16:51Speaker 1: being is not because it was corporate, right, It was
- 16:53Speaker 1: because I was actually in an industry where I wasn't
- 16:55Speaker 1: helping my culture. I was actually hurting my culture. It
- 16:58Speaker 1: was for a title hocome to me. So I felt
- 17:01Speaker 1: like I checked all the boxes with regards to going
- 17:03Speaker 1: to college. You know, I pledged in the sorority, I
- 17:05Speaker 1: had a high g p A. I you know, join
- 17:08Speaker 1: honor societies, did community service. But for whatever reason, I
- 17:11Speaker 1: still couldn't find a job that was professional, in my opinion,
- 17:16Speaker 1: and so I had to find a way to get
- 17:18Speaker 1: out of that. And so in doing research, you know,
- 17:20Speaker 1: when I looked at millionaires and billionaires, I realized that
- 17:23Speaker 1: all of them had their hands in real estate, whether
- 17:26Speaker 1: they were investing, whether they were owning, whatever the case
- 17:28Speaker 1: may be. And I'm like, wow, Okay, if I know
- 17:31Speaker 1: that that is where I want to go, then I
- 17:33Speaker 1: need to duplicate the system, right, So I decided to
- 17:36Speaker 1: look into real estate. And I was also a single
- 17:38Speaker 1: mother at the time, and I needed a job that
- 17:40Speaker 1: was gonna give me lexibility with regards to my schedule.
- 17:43Speaker 1: And I also don't like people telling me what to
- 17:44Speaker 1: do and then telling me what to do. If someone
- 17:47Speaker 1: could come to me as my box and say, well,
- 17:49Speaker 1: you're only work this X month of dollars per year,
- 17:52Speaker 1: I just didn't like that. I wanted to be in
- 17:54Speaker 1: an industry that I could choose and did take what
- 17:57Speaker 1: my work and income could be, and so real estate
- 18:00Speaker 1: all the boxes, especially with being able to be my
- 18:03Speaker 1: own boss. You know, I always wanted to become an entrepreneur.
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- 19:42Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something. I bought several homes in
- 19:44Speaker 1: my life. You go to that title company and they
- 19:48Speaker 1: get that piece of a piece of paper that book
- 19:51Speaker 1: to side, which I don't know what's in there. I
- 19:54Speaker 1: just it says side side side side. I just started
- 19:58Speaker 1: signing because lord, no, used, I don't know what I'm signing.
- 20:03Speaker 1: What is in that thick piece of closing paperwork? Can
- 20:06Speaker 1: you help a brother? I'll help my viewers out. But
- 20:09Speaker 1: listen to because we just signing and trusting broker, our
- 20:12Speaker 1: real estate agent to get us through because the title person,
- 20:15Speaker 1: we don't know. That's just a company that you work
- 20:18Speaker 1: with on a regular basis. They have their set fees.
- 20:20Speaker 1: You have to have them to close a to close
- 20:23Speaker 1: on your home. What is that thick piece of paper
- 20:26Speaker 1: that I've signed more than six times in my life
- 20:29Speaker 1: and still don't know what I'm saying. Absolutely so, we
- 20:32Speaker 1: have a running joke in real estate where it's like,
- 20:34Speaker 1: you know, make sure you bring up extra hands the
- 20:36Speaker 1: closing because you're gonna have to have so many different
- 20:40Speaker 1: documents that you're gonna be signing, So that's a great question.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Most of those documents are going to be documents from
- 20:45Speaker 1: your lender. They're gonna make sure. So one of the
- 20:47Speaker 1: misconceptions is that when you're purchasing at home, the closing
- 20:50Speaker 1: attorney is working on your behalf as a buyer, and
- 20:53Speaker 1: that's not the case. The closing attorney actually works for
- 20:56Speaker 1: the lender, So all of those documents are most of
- 20:59Speaker 1: those dot uments rather our lender documents, so that lender
- 21:02Speaker 1: is making sure that you're not only telling them over
- 21:05Speaker 1: the phone and sending documents that you are who you
- 21:07Speaker 1: say you are, but you're actually signing in writing to
- 21:10Speaker 1: say that what you gave them is in fact true.
- 21:13Speaker 1: They're also making you sign documents that are gonna make
- 21:16Speaker 1: sure you understand the details of your loan so that
- 21:19Speaker 1: later on you can't say, well, I didn't know that
- 21:21Speaker 1: my amortization schedule was gonna do this, or I was
- 21:24Speaker 1: actually paying double for the home and this way and
- 21:26Speaker 1: that way. So I encourage you to look at the
- 21:28Speaker 1: amortization schedule before you sign, so that you have a
- 21:30Speaker 1: clear understanding of what you're actually gonna be paying back
- 21:33Speaker 1: over thirty years. You're also gonna be looking over what
- 21:36Speaker 1: we call alto statement, which actually breaks out all the
- 21:40Speaker 1: costume fees that you're paying at closing. So some of
- 21:43Speaker 1: those fees are gonna be your closing costs, so the
- 21:45Speaker 1: closing attorney's fees, you're appro rated taxes, you're they're gonna
- 21:49Speaker 1: ask for your homeowners insurance policy, things like that. All
- 21:52Speaker 1: of those things have to be outlined a closing in
- 21:54Speaker 1: order to protect you and the lender. When you signed,
- 22:00Speaker 1: brother NA, what I do look at the amazization amateurization
- 22:04Speaker 1: because I won't to know what I'm paying. I'll tell
- 22:05Speaker 1: you I do that. I do look at the sheet
- 22:07Speaker 1: that tells me the taxes, what feeds being there, what
- 22:10Speaker 1: the percentage of the of the of the loan is
- 22:13Speaker 1: going to be. Because I've been fortunate, I've been half
- 22:15Speaker 1: paid off all my loans ahead of time. And I'm
- 22:18Speaker 1: also there is an advantage to doing that that most
- 22:21Speaker 1: loans nowadays don't have a free payment penalty. So if
- 22:24Speaker 1: you are a buyer out there, then it's awesome. You
- 22:26Speaker 1: can definitely pay your loan back early by making additional
- 22:30Speaker 1: payments throughout the month. But most people when they look
- 22:33Speaker 1: at is just that cost to buyer a line which
- 22:36Speaker 1: is at the bottom saying how much you need to
- 22:37Speaker 1: actually bring to closing. But I encourage you to also
- 22:40Speaker 1: double check and make sure that any credits that you
- 22:42Speaker 1: were supposed to receive throughout the process, especially from a seller,
- 22:46Speaker 1: if they said that they were going to contribute, say
- 22:48Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars towards your closing costs, you want to
- 22:50Speaker 1: make sure you're getting credit for that at closing. There
- 22:53Speaker 1: have been issues and errors. No one's perfect right where
- 22:56Speaker 1: sometimes you might close and you didn't actually get the
- 22:58Speaker 1: credit that you were supposed too. So that's why it's
- 23:01Speaker 1: very important that you work for the realtor that's gonna
- 23:03Speaker 1: double check those documents for you to make sure that
- 23:05Speaker 1: you're not overpaying something that you shouldn't have been paying
- 23:08Speaker 1: in the first place. Well, Ms Williams, let's let's go
- 23:11Speaker 1: to this question here. I bought a building in Atlanta
- 23:15Speaker 1: last year and I bought homes. What is the difference
- 23:19Speaker 1: or do you do commercial as well as a residential
- 23:23Speaker 1: and what it's a difference between residential being a residential
- 23:26Speaker 1: realtor and a commercial realtor. Yeah, absolutely, so I primary
- 23:31Speaker 1: service residential clientele. UM. I've done a few commercial transactions.
- 23:35Speaker 1: I've actually just become a part of the U l
- 23:38Speaker 1: I REP program where I'm learning more about commercial real
- 23:41Speaker 1: estate because unfortunately it's one of those industries that we
- 23:45Speaker 1: don't really have access to. It is a very tight
- 23:48Speaker 1: knit type field. But it's something that I'm not gonna
- 23:53Speaker 1: allow to be an excuse for me. So I am
- 23:55Speaker 1: diving head first into commercial real estate this year. UM. Now,
- 23:59Speaker 1: with regard to the friends, one of the misconceptions about
- 24:02Speaker 1: commercial real estate is that you actually need a separate
- 24:04Speaker 1: license to be a commercial realtor. That's not true. When
- 24:08Speaker 1: you get your real estate license, your your license to
- 24:11Speaker 1: sell all real property, so that means buildings, houses, lands, uh,
- 24:16Speaker 1: anything that is real estate related. So I think because
- 24:20Speaker 1: they've done such a good job in marketing them separately,
- 24:23Speaker 1: a lot of agents never think that they can actually
- 24:25Speaker 1: learn or sell commercial real estate. So I'm so excited
- 24:28Speaker 1: that you actually took a stabbot and purchase commercial real
- 24:31Speaker 1: estate because even as business owners, a lot of times
- 24:34Speaker 1: we don't look at Okay, well how can I own
- 24:36Speaker 1: a building? A lot of times we'll just look at okay,
- 24:38Speaker 1: I want to fix some flip for property, or I
- 24:40Speaker 1: want to buy a house, you know, to add to
- 24:42Speaker 1: my portfolio. But I encourage the listeners to think about
- 24:44Speaker 1: being a commercial landlord. You can own a commercial building
- 24:48Speaker 1: and have tenants paying rent the same way you can
- 24:50Speaker 1: own a house and have tenants paying rent. So don't
- 24:53Speaker 1: box yourself in and think that you only need to
- 24:55Speaker 1: buy residential real estate when commercial real estate can be
- 24:58Speaker 1: even more lucrative. Depend don't know what you purchased. Absolutely,
- 25:02Speaker 1: Now you're more than as they said, she's more than
- 25:04Speaker 1: a real estate agent, she's more than a brokersh Now
- 25:07Speaker 1: do you have a building? You know? You have an officer?
- 25:09Speaker 1: Are you virtual? Were not seen? I see sixty ages.
- 25:13Speaker 1: Are there's sixty agents located in one location? Or they're
- 25:16Speaker 1: through virtual they're coming in out of the office. There
- 25:18Speaker 1: is there a building someplace with your name on it, Denise, Yes,
- 25:22Speaker 1: it is so After COVID, we've we've taken a higher approach.
- 25:25Speaker 1: I've had an office space since I started my business.
- 25:27Speaker 1: We actually just moved out of Buckhead into the West End,
- 25:31Speaker 1: which is an amazing up and coming area at the
- 25:34Speaker 1: Metropolitan Loss. The reason I left Buckhead not it wasn't
- 25:38Speaker 1: anything bad. It was just that I think culturally it's
- 25:41Speaker 1: going to be a benefit for us to be in
- 25:42Speaker 1: the West End because of the growth. And then also
- 25:45Speaker 1: in my new space, I'm able to have more of
- 25:47Speaker 1: a creative environment. So we're actually located at six eight
- 25:51Speaker 1: Murphy Avenue Southwest in Atlanta three or three one oh.
- 25:55Speaker 1: And in this new space, we're actually gonna have a
- 25:57Speaker 1: full kitchen. I'm in my build out phase right now,
- 25:59Speaker 1: so so excited about it. We're gonna have a poor
- 26:01Speaker 1: kitchen so that when scients closed with my company, they're
- 26:04Speaker 1: able to actually get a chef's sponsored dinner UH at
- 26:08Speaker 1: certain price points. We're creating an experience for our clientele.
- 26:11Speaker 1: Right there in office, we have a training room, and
- 26:15Speaker 1: then we also are gonna have my favorite part, which
- 26:17Speaker 1: is a marketing studio, because as you know, marketing is
- 26:20Speaker 1: the number one way to grow any business. So my
- 26:22Speaker 1: agents are gonna actually have the opportunity to come into
- 26:25Speaker 1: the office, get photo shoots done, create content. They want
- 26:29Speaker 1: to start a YouTube channel, they can do so right
- 26:31Speaker 1: in office. If they want to do a podcast, they'll
- 26:33Speaker 1: be able to do so in office, So we'll have
- 26:35Speaker 1: a dressing room for them to change and it's just
- 26:37Speaker 1: gonna be a whole vibe. And so that's why I
- 26:40Speaker 1: had to transition and move to a bigger space, uh
- 26:43Speaker 1: and then also more of a creative space. I'm gonna
- 26:45Speaker 1: start calling you Hollywood Holly, come on you the show,
- 26:51Speaker 1: call me the marketing studio, come on that. But I
- 26:55Speaker 1: love that because first of all, you are your chief
- 26:58Speaker 1: information officer for the Raps Next operation and partnership with
- 27:01Speaker 1: my board Master Pete tell us about that. Yes, um,
- 27:06Speaker 1: that has been a life changing experience for me to
- 27:10Speaker 1: be a part of the Wraps Next organization. So shout
- 27:12Speaker 1: out to Master Pea, to James Lindsay who's the owner
- 27:15Speaker 1: of Wraps Next, as well as Wise Intelligent for giving
- 27:17Speaker 1: me this opportunity. They trusted me to not only partner
- 27:21Speaker 1: with me, but to also help them with several different
- 27:24Speaker 1: initiatives under their umbrella. So one of the things that
- 27:27Speaker 1: I'm working on with them is actually the Buyer Blocks
- 27:31Speaker 1: UH incubator, which is going to teach individuals how to
- 27:34Speaker 1: purchase their very first property as well as an investment home.
- 27:38Speaker 1: So it's it's an extremely beneficial program that I've been
- 27:41Speaker 1: rolling out this year. Well it's great, and I want
- 27:43Speaker 1: to close talking about your your mentoring academy called us
- 27:46Speaker 1: C Owner CEO Owner, which just entrepreneurs how to transition,
- 27:50Speaker 1: because that's a problem people transitioning out of a one
- 27:54Speaker 1: level to the next, or another job to the next,
- 27:56Speaker 1: or being a for the hour week person and not
- 27:58Speaker 1: even want to be an entrepreneur. Tell us about the
- 28:00Speaker 1: Owner Academy. So this C Owner Academy is something that's
- 28:05Speaker 1: so near and dear to my heart. Is actually something
- 28:07Speaker 1: that I've been wanting to do for over a year now,
- 28:09Speaker 1: and the premise of the academy is to teach aspiring
- 28:13Speaker 1: and current entrepreneurs how to grow and scale their business.
- 28:16Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people want to be CEOs,
- 28:18Speaker 1: they want to own their own business. But why is
- 28:21Speaker 1: it that they don't think beyond that, Because to me,
- 28:24Speaker 1: by definition, if you look up you google CEE E owner,
- 28:27Speaker 1: I mean CEO, then you're still an employee of an organization,
- 28:31Speaker 1: even if that means it's your organization. So that doesn't
- 28:34Speaker 1: mean freedom. That still means that you have to pick
- 28:36Speaker 1: up the phone when people call you. You still can't
- 28:39Speaker 1: leave and go on vacation without your laptop. So my
- 28:41Speaker 1: goal is to teach people to not just stop there.
- 28:44Speaker 1: Don't just say Okay, I have a CEO title and
- 28:46Speaker 1: now I've made it. Let's think about how you actually
- 28:49Speaker 1: retire as an owner, because in my space, I would
- 28:52Speaker 1: never be able to call you know, if you work
- 28:54Speaker 1: for Kelly Williams, you can't call Gary Keller. He's been
- 28:57Speaker 1: as to implement systems and automation that allow him to
- 29:00Speaker 1: make money without actually being present. And especially in our culture,
- 29:04Speaker 1: I think it's important that we stopped working until sixty
- 29:07Speaker 1: seventy eight, even if it's within our own business, and
- 29:10Speaker 1: really learned systems that are going to allow us true freedom,
- 29:13Speaker 1: because that's what I'm working so hard for. The money
- 29:15Speaker 1: is gonna come as a by product of my hard
- 29:18Speaker 1: work and the way that I treat people. But freedom
- 29:20Speaker 1: is gonna come by intentions, by systems and automation, and
- 29:24Speaker 1: those are the things that I teach in my academy.
- 29:26Speaker 1: You know the interesting thing about it, people always look
- 29:29Speaker 1: at me and my wife always say you you you
- 29:31Speaker 1: spend more time at your if you spend at home. Well,
- 29:34Speaker 1: I love my home, but I also loved my office,
- 29:36Speaker 1: you know, and I think that you what you're creating
- 29:39Speaker 1: at the new location, it's gonna be a place where
- 29:41Speaker 1: you got the kitchen. There's you want to go into
- 29:43Speaker 1: the refrigerator and get yourself. You want to make your
- 29:44Speaker 1: own breakfasts at the office, you can do that. You know,
- 29:47Speaker 1: if you want to bake something. You're just creating a
- 29:50Speaker 1: vibe for yourself, and you're you're changing the rules. Because
- 29:55Speaker 1: that when I bought this built out, and that was
- 29:56Speaker 1: one of the things I wanted a full kitchen in it.
- 29:58Speaker 1: I wanted a full kitchen. I come in my staff know,
- 30:01Speaker 1: they got their own refrigerator. I re rebuilt out the
- 30:04Speaker 1: basement where they have their own refrigerator, dishwasher, food and
- 30:07Speaker 1: all that stuff. So they come up my kitchen, my refrigerator.
- 30:10Speaker 1: We got a problems because I told y'all don't go
- 30:13Speaker 1: in my refrigerator, not because I got so. So make
- 30:16Speaker 1: sure you get the refrigerator and your refrigerator, Okay, because
- 30:19Speaker 1: you everybody actually a good point. I'm just telling you that.
- 30:22Speaker 1: I'm just telling right now, Hollywood. I'm just telling right now, Hollywood.
- 30:25Speaker 1: How you gotta be now, and then I just invite you.
- 30:28Speaker 1: Have me on the computer. I want to come to
- 30:29Speaker 1: you with the world. You're gonna come back because I
- 30:32Speaker 1: like you. I like y'all. I wouldn't invite because because see,
- 30:34Speaker 1: I always enjoyed this format that I've created called money
- 30:37Speaker 1: Making Conversation because I learned about people are educated. I
- 30:40Speaker 1: get educated about the process because I know a lot.
- 30:43Speaker 1: But like too many other people, I'm just going through
- 30:46Speaker 1: the motions. I'm going through the motions like buy homes.
- 30:48Speaker 1: I'm gonna I know somebody guided me through purchasing this build.
- 30:51Speaker 1: I really don't know what I signed, but I got
- 30:54Speaker 1: the right lawyer that got the right person I've known
- 30:56Speaker 1: for many years who did the commercial loan from me
- 30:59Speaker 1: and found the building. So I was in good hands.
- 31:02Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people that are not in
- 31:04Speaker 1: good hands. And that's why I'm talking to you. I
- 31:07Speaker 1: feel you're one of those in good hands people. When
- 31:09Speaker 1: they come to you, there's no agenda. It's about business.
- 31:12Speaker 1: Is about getting the best deal for the for your
- 31:15Speaker 1: client and the client being the person who wants to
- 31:17Speaker 1: buy the house, and your future by the commercial building
- 31:20Speaker 1: because you're getting into that business. So, but I also
- 31:23Speaker 1: see a dominant amount of people in the commercial side
- 31:26Speaker 1: that don't look like you. And that's why I want
- 31:29Speaker 1: That's why I brought that up, because we out there dominating.
- 31:32Speaker 1: You're having homes and selling homes and stuff. But I'm
- 31:35Speaker 1: telling something you could have building the million dollar building
- 31:39Speaker 1: for the million dollar billions. You know, that's that to
- 31:41Speaker 1: keep you busy for a couple of years with that
- 31:43Speaker 1: commission change that is life changing. And that's the route
- 31:48Speaker 1: that I'm going because if you want to think about it.
- 31:50Speaker 1: But if you even with commercial leasing, this is something
- 31:54Speaker 1: that people don't know. When you lease a commercial space
- 31:57Speaker 1: for a client, you actually get paid what they call
- 32:00Speaker 1: first and four, So you get paid the first month's
- 32:03Speaker 1: rent and then you get four or five percent of
- 32:06Speaker 1: the least amount for the life of the of the
- 32:09Speaker 1: the lease. So that's a ten year least. You're getting
- 32:12Speaker 1: residuals for ten years based on your but you know,
- 32:16Speaker 1: for your commission. And so I think that agents have
- 32:19Speaker 1: to really start to think about like, Okay, do I
- 32:21Speaker 1: just want something real quick or do I want some
- 32:24Speaker 1: life changing money. And that's why I'm pivoting more into
- 32:26Speaker 1: that space because I'm like, you know, we only have
- 32:29Speaker 1: one house that's the most expensive house on the market
- 32:32Speaker 1: right now, is worth fifteen point five million dollars on
- 32:34Speaker 1: the residential side. I mean, that's a baby building on
- 32:38Speaker 1: the commercial side. So if you really think about it,
- 32:41Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, it may take me a year or
- 32:43Speaker 1: two to get a commission check for thirty forty million dollars,
- 32:47Speaker 1: but so what you know, we have to think bigger.
- 32:51Speaker 1: And that's some of the things that I'm exposing my
- 32:52Speaker 1: team too. And that's why I'm so grateful to have
- 32:54Speaker 1: been selected into this reprogram because I'm learning so much
- 32:57Speaker 1: about commercial real estate and it's actually years were putting
- 33:00Speaker 1: more diversity in the space. So it's a really really
- 33:03Speaker 1: phenomenal opportunity. Well, you you know, you're you know, you're
- 33:06Speaker 1: in the right place, and you know that in the
- 33:08Speaker 1: right city, black excellence doesn't does exhaled in this particular market. Now,
- 33:13Speaker 1: I just wanted to bring on the show the niece.
- 33:15Speaker 1: I heard a lot of great things about you, my boy,
- 33:17Speaker 1: ask Cash. We're just screaming, screaming the blessings of Denise Wears.
- 33:20Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal person. You gotta put on your showers
- 33:23Speaker 1: I gotta put on your sholf. And but more important,
- 33:26Speaker 1: but what he didn't tell me that I was gonna
- 33:27Speaker 1: be meeting the Hollywood then these Hollywood weeds. He didn't
- 33:30Speaker 1: tell every about that I got. I gotta bring Hollywood
- 33:34Speaker 1: by my crib over here so we can eat some
- 33:36Speaker 1: food up stairs and stuff like that. But thank you
- 33:38Speaker 1: for coming on Money Making Confortences. You're fantastic. Uh, we're
- 33:41Speaker 1: definitely gonna offline. I definitely want to connect with you.
- 33:44Speaker 1: And just just you know, I said, my whole life,
- 33:47Speaker 1: I built this brandom mentor. I brought this brand to
- 33:50Speaker 1: just have people in a position because I've been very
- 33:52Speaker 1: successful in so many lanes in my life, but more
- 33:54Speaker 1: importantly being able to share that success, that knowledge. I
- 33:58Speaker 1: don't want no checks. God is giving me the checks
- 34:00Speaker 1: I need and it's called relationship. So again, thank you
- 34:03Speaker 1: for coming on Money Making Conversations. Thank you for having me.
- 34:06Speaker 1: I had such a last Thank you. Thank you, And
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