Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Iran's Problem w Trump as POTUS, Harris PAID Celebrities to Like Her & Details of Picking a Sen. Majority Leader Week In Review
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome.
- 0:00Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz and the week in
- 0:03Speaker 2: Review Ben Ferguson with you. And these are the major
- 0:06Speaker 2: stories that you may have missed that we talked about
- 0:08Speaker 2: this week. First up, Donald Trump now responding to an
- 0:12Speaker 2: Iranian plot to take his own life and why do
- 0:15Speaker 2: we only find out about this after election day? We'll
- 0:18Speaker 2: dive into that in just a moment. Also, Kamala Harris
- 0:22Speaker 2: blew through a billion dollars with her campaign, and she
- 0:26Speaker 2: made a lot of people rich in the process. So
- 0:29Speaker 2: why is it that so many celebrities took major paychecks
- 0:33Speaker 2: from donors instead of quote doing the right thing to
- 0:37Speaker 2: support Kamala will break down the money and who got rich. Also,
- 0:42Speaker 2: the purpose of secret ballot for selecting the Senate majority leader, Well,
- 0:46Speaker 2: what actually happened behind the scenes? Center Cruse and I
- 0:50Speaker 2: break down exactly how that vote took place. It's the
- 0:53Speaker 2: Weekend Review and it starts right now. You hear this
- 0:57Speaker 2: plot and you sit there and you go, how on
- 1:00Speaker 2: earth has the Biden Hearris administration allowed Iran to get
- 1:04Speaker 2: to this point where they can just easily go out
- 1:08Speaker 2: into the United States of America knock on people's doors
- 1:11Speaker 2: in America get away with this and not hold them
- 1:14Speaker 2: accountable for any of this while they're also attacking Israel.
- 1:18Speaker 2: And the question is number one, let's start with the
- 1:22Speaker 2: real political aspect of this. What is a Trump administration
- 1:26Speaker 2: response seed to be with this. I'm not saying because
- 1:28Speaker 2: they were targeting Trump. I'm saying the president of the
- 1:31Speaker 2: United States of America, regardless of who that person is,
- 1:33Speaker 2: should never allow Ran to feel this comfortable on American
- 1:37Speaker 2: soil to do this, much less plan to take out
- 1:39Speaker 2: our president or a former president of the United States
- 1:42Speaker 2: of America.
- 1:43Speaker 3: Well, election day was a fantastic day for America. It
- 1:47Speaker 3: was fantastic day for everyone who wants to see jobs,
- 1:50Speaker 3: who wants to see border security, who wants to see
- 1:52Speaker 3: national security enhanced. But it was a terrible, terrible day
- 1:57Speaker 3: for the Ayatola and the Iranian Malahs. Four years Joe
- 2:00Speaker 3: Biden and Kamala Harris, with a support of every Democrat
- 2:03Speaker 3: in Congress, they have funneled over one hundred billion dollars
- 2:08Speaker 3: to Iran. It's not just that Biden Harris allowed Iran
- 2:10Speaker 3: to do this, they paid for it. One hundred billion
- 2:13Speaker 3: dollars is a lot of money. I'm here to tell
- 2:15Speaker 3: you that is going to end. In January of next year.
- 2:17Speaker 3: The Trump administration is going to cut off the money.
- 2:20Speaker 3: That's going to be the beginning. And I expect serious
- 2:23Speaker 3: consequences for Iran repeatedly trying to murder President Trump. I
- 2:30Speaker 3: don't know what those consequences will be, but I guarantee
- 2:33Speaker 3: you the Iatolas are the Iotola and the Mullahs are deeply,
- 2:37Speaker 3: deeply worried and scared and the brazenness of this. And
- 2:42Speaker 3: look understand, the Justice Department knew about this. They deliberately
- 2:46Speaker 3: did not make it public until after election day. I
- 2:51Speaker 3: think they had a judgment, well, gosh, if people know
- 2:53Speaker 3: that Iran is like actively trying to murder Trump, if
- 2:56Speaker 3: they know the details of this, that's going to end
- 2:59Speaker 3: up benefiting Trump's let's just keep it quiet and well
- 3:03Speaker 3: Trump one.
- 3:05Speaker 2: So then it was cover your ables. Is that a
- 3:07Speaker 2: fair way of describing this?
- 3:09Speaker 4: You know?
- 3:09Speaker 5: Yes?
- 3:10Speaker 3: And no. I mean, look, they had to file the
- 3:11Speaker 3: complaint at some point, so they're prosecuting these folks, So
- 3:14Speaker 3: it was inevitable that it would be filed, because you
- 3:17Speaker 3: can't prosecute them without filing the indictment and bringing charges.
- 3:22Speaker 3: The timing the fact that they did not say anything public. Look,
- 3:26Speaker 3: DOJ has long standing rules that you're not supposed to
- 3:29Speaker 3: do anything to interfere in an election. I would say
- 3:32Speaker 3: that that foiling an assassination attempt by a foreign government
- 3:37Speaker 3: is not DOJ doing something to interfere with an election.
- 3:40Speaker 3: It is instead DJ doing its job. And I think
- 3:43Speaker 3: the public has a right to know that. But and
- 3:47Speaker 3: so I think their decision to bury it and listen
- 3:50Speaker 3: under Joe Biden, this Biden Department of Justice, if there's
- 3:52Speaker 3: one thing they know how to do, it is leak.
- 3:55Speaker 3: Merrick Garland and his team, they leak like crazy when
- 3:57Speaker 3: the story. When the story suits them politically, they give
- 4:00Speaker 3: it to all their buddies in the press. This thing
- 4:03Speaker 3: stayed absolutely silent until after election day. They also kept
- 4:07Speaker 3: silent uh the the murder attempt of the US citizen
- 4:12Speaker 3: by Iran, because it also shows the incredible weakness of
- 4:15Speaker 3: this administration, just how much they've had boldened Iran that
- 4:19Speaker 3: they feel that they can carry out attempted murder plots
- 4:22Speaker 3: on US soil. It is a real demonstration of the
- 4:28Speaker 3: basic principle that that weakness invites hostility. In this case,
- 4:32Speaker 3: Iran was only emboldened by Joe Biden, Kamala Harris's weakness.
- 4:36Speaker 2: Yeah, and Fox News when they reported on this, it
- 4:39Speaker 2: was very interesting to see how they report it. And
- 4:41Speaker 2: I want to play this people, and I want you
- 4:43Speaker 2: to think about why you didn't know this before Election day.
- 4:47Speaker 4: Listen, the Justice Department unsealing criminal charges in a thwarted
- 4:51Speaker 4: Iranian plot to kill President elect Donald Trump in the
- 4:54Speaker 4: lead up to this week's election. Welcome everybody. I'm deal cabudo.
- 4:58Speaker 4: There's still a lot we don't we know about this,
- 5:01Speaker 4: but David spun piecing together what we do, David.
- 5:05Speaker 6: Neil, we know it's just another threat coming from Iran
- 5:08Speaker 6: directed at President elect Donald Trump. The man that authorities
- 5:12Speaker 6: are looking for is a fifty one year old who
- 5:15Speaker 6: is allegedly working with the Iranian regime on a plan
- 5:18Speaker 6: to kill Trump.
- 5:19Speaker 5: His name is Farhad Shakiri.
- 5:20Speaker 6: Authorities believe he's in Iran right now as I speak
- 5:23Speaker 6: to you. According to a criminal complaint on Seal today,
- 5:26Speaker 6: Shakiri demanded large sums of money for working on this
- 5:29Speaker 6: plot to kill Trump over the past few months. At
- 5:32Speaker 6: stated in a complaint, Shakiri indicated to an Iran Iranian
- 5:36Speaker 6: government official that this would cost a huge amount of money.
- 5:40Speaker 6: In response, the Iranian officials said, we have already spent
- 5:44Speaker 6: a lot of money, so the money's not an issue.
- 5:46Speaker 6: In a statement from FBI Director Christopher Ray, he says
- 5:49Speaker 6: the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, a designated foreign terrorist organization,
- 5:54Speaker 6: has been conspiring with criminals and hitmen to target and
- 5:57Speaker 6: gun down Americans on US soil, and that simply won't
- 6:00Speaker 6: be tolerated. Thanks to the hard work of the FBI,
- 6:03Speaker 6: their deadly schemes were disrupted.
- 6:05Speaker 2: By the way they said. And this is the part
- 6:07Speaker 2: I want to ask you. They said it was won't
- 6:10Speaker 2: be tolerated. I'm not sure I believe that based on
- 6:15Speaker 2: what we know now. It seems like we've been tolerating
- 6:17Speaker 2: Iran basically doing whatever the hell they want to do
- 6:21Speaker 2: for quite some time in the world.
- 6:23Speaker 3: Well, that's right. And look, it's important to understand a
- 6:26Speaker 3: lot of the press when they talk about Donald Trump's
- 6:29Speaker 3: foreign policy, they mischaracterize it. There are a lot of
- 6:31Speaker 3: folks that characterized Trump as an isolationist. That's not remotely
- 6:35Speaker 3: the case. I mean, part of the reason Iran is
- 6:37Speaker 3: so angry is because remember Trump took out he killed
- 6:42Speaker 3: General Solomony. General Solomony was responsible for orchestrating the murder
- 6:47Speaker 3: of over six hundred American servicemen and women. He was
- 6:51Speaker 3: one of the leading terrorists in the world, and Iran's
- 6:53Speaker 3: the leading state sponsor of terrorism, and Donald Trump took
- 6:56Speaker 3: him out. Donald Trump also enforced the oil sections, pulled
- 7:00Speaker 3: out of the Iran deal, brought the Iranian economy to
- 7:03Speaker 3: its knees, cut off their money, had the regime ready
- 7:06Speaker 3: to topple. That is strength what Trump rightly did. And
- 7:10Speaker 3: by the way, on all of those steps, I was
- 7:12Speaker 3: urging Trump to proceed to vigorously defend us against Iran.
- 7:16Speaker 3: What Trump also did, though, is he did not get
- 7:18Speaker 3: us in foreign wars. It is amazing how the weakness
- 7:23Speaker 3: and appeasement of the left gets it exactly backwards. They're
- 7:26Speaker 3: eager to get us and mesh and foreign wars all
- 7:28Speaker 3: over the world, but they're not willing to be strong
- 7:30Speaker 3: against people who actually are trying to kill us. And
- 7:33Speaker 3: in this instance, there are going to be very very
- 7:36Speaker 3: real consequences for Iran. The first will be economic. Their
- 7:39Speaker 3: money is going to disappear, but there's going to be
- 7:42Speaker 3: consequences that are a lot more real world than just
- 7:45Speaker 3: dollars and cents.
- 7:46Speaker 1: Finally center some breaking news.
- 7:48Speaker 2: I just want to get your quick thoughts on this
- 7:50Speaker 2: because it's an interesting story and it's really just a
- 7:55Speaker 2: sad story. I think it's a such a sad story
- 7:58Speaker 2: for the people that are hurting, who were needing the
- 8:01Speaker 2: help of their government. It has come out now that
- 8:04Speaker 2: a FEMA official ordered relief workers to deliberately and purposely
- 8:12Speaker 2: skip the houses of people that have been affected by
- 8:15Speaker 2: the hurricane that had Trump signs up. A whistle blower
- 8:21Speaker 2: came forward, so it's almost unbelievable to think that somebody
- 8:24Speaker 2: in the federal government would think that's okay. I'm actually,
- 8:27Speaker 2: by the way, not surprised, unfortunately, that there are people
- 8:30Speaker 2: in this Biden Harris government that would say, screw those
- 8:33Speaker 2: that are Trump supporters and don't give them government aid
- 8:36Speaker 2: even after a hurricane.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Yet this did happen.
- 8:40Speaker 3: Yeah, this story, it's a story of an incredible abuse
- 8:43Speaker 3: of power and just a brazen partisanship that sadly it
- 8:47Speaker 3: typifies what has happened throughout the Biden Harris administration. I
- 8:51Speaker 3: want to give credit to the Daily Wire. The Daily
- 8:53Speaker 3: Wire broke this story. It also illustrates how so called
- 8:57Speaker 3: mainstream media, the corporate meet does not actually report on
- 9:01Speaker 3: real news. It took the Daily Wire to make this public.
- 9:03Speaker 3: It's also the Daily Wire that broke the stories in
- 9:06Speaker 3: Loudon County couple of years ago about the teenage girl
- 9:10Speaker 3: who was sexually assaulted in the bathroom by the boy
- 9:13Speaker 3: wearing a skirt, because again, the corporate media wouldn't report
- 9:16Speaker 3: on it.
- 9:16Speaker 5: Well.
- 9:16Speaker 3: In this instance, the Daily Wire reported that that instructions
- 9:23Speaker 3: were given to FEMA workers that said, and they actually
- 9:26Speaker 3: have screenshots of the instructions that say, quote implement best practices.
- 9:32Speaker 3: No one goes anywhere alone, avoid homes advertising TRUMP, practice
- 9:38Speaker 3: de escalation and preventative measures. Communicate with and follow the rules.
- 9:43Speaker 3: Bring a towel with yourself in the field. Frequent breaks,
- 9:45Speaker 3: and drink water. Avoid high salt diets and coffee. Coconut
- 9:49Speaker 3: water is a fast way to replenish your electrolytes quickly.
- 9:52Speaker 3: So this is written instructions for emergency emergency workers who
- 9:59Speaker 3: are dealing with the aftermath of a hurricane a natural disaster,
- 10:02Speaker 3: and they are told in writing avoid homes advertising TRUMP. Now, Now, look,
- 10:08Speaker 3: this only happens when you absolutely normalize the weaponization of
- 10:13Speaker 3: government against the enemies of your regime. This is this
- 10:19Speaker 3: particular individual was caught, and this person's been fired. Now,
- 10:24Speaker 3: of course she's been fired, she should have been fired.
- 10:26Speaker 3: But the broader question was what kind of culture was
- 10:29Speaker 3: there that made you think you should explicitly say hey,
- 10:33Speaker 3: and and I mean these are this is providing put
- 10:36Speaker 3: it in right.
- 10:36Speaker 2: Comfortable enough to put it in writing. Yep, yeah, wonder
- 10:40Speaker 2: what else is in writing that that that is exactly right?
- 10:45Speaker 2: And you know, one of the employees who was one
- 10:48Speaker 2: of the whistleblowers said, quote, I know their short staff.
- 10:50Speaker 2: I thought we could go help and make a difference.
- 10:53Speaker 2: When we got there, we were told to discriminate against people.
- 10:55Speaker 2: It's almost unbelievable to think that somebody in the federal
- 10:58Speaker 2: government would think that's okay. The employee said that it
- 11:01Speaker 2: felt wrong to discriminate against Trump supporters when they were
- 11:04Speaker 2: at their most vulnerable.
- 11:05Speaker 5: Quote.
- 11:06Speaker 3: I volunteered to help disaster victims, not discriminate against them.
- 11:10Speaker 3: It didn't matter if people were black, white, Hispanic, for Trump,
- 11:13Speaker 3: for Harris. Everyone deserves the same amount of help. That
- 11:16Speaker 3: would be actually the government doing its job. But sadly,
- 11:20Speaker 3: too many in the Biden Harris administration. Too many on
- 11:23Speaker 3: the left that they have convinced themselves Trump is hitler.
- 11:26Speaker 3: Anyone who supports him as garbage, and therefore you can
- 11:30Speaker 3: do anything possible to go after them. It's a really
- 11:34Speaker 3: sad example of just how weaponized this administration's gotten.
- 11:39Speaker 2: I hope this inspires others if there are other stories
- 11:42Speaker 2: out there, other emails and things in writing like this
- 11:45Speaker 2: that will be brought forward. I am glad by the
- 11:48Speaker 2: way that the woman's been fired, But the question that
- 11:50Speaker 2: I have to ask after that is, well, were there
- 11:52Speaker 2: any laws broken?
- 11:53Speaker 1: And I hope they look at that as well well.
- 11:55Speaker 3: And Ben and Ben, let me let me say, if
- 11:58Speaker 3: you go into the story, there are photos from the
- 11:59Speaker 3: cysts the federal relief workers used to track the homes
- 12:03Speaker 3: they visited, and it showed that they followed the written guidance.
- 12:08Speaker 3: Several addresses were marked as quote not able to access property,
- 12:13Speaker 3: with listed explanations such as quote Trump sign, no entry
- 12:18Speaker 3: per leadership, quote per leadership, no stop Trump flag quote
- 12:23Speaker 3: Trump sign end quote Trump sign, no contact per leadership.
- 12:30Speaker 1: This was.
- 12:33Speaker 3: Yes, it was carried out by supervision that the name
- 12:36Speaker 3: of the individual is someone Marnie Washington is the one
- 12:40Speaker 3: who issued this order. Marnie Washington has been fired, but
- 12:45Speaker 3: this was an organization where this order was.
- 12:49Speaker 5: Par for the course.
- 12:51Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
- 12:53Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
- 12:56Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, Senator.
- 13:01Speaker 2: One other story is Donald Trump is getting his cabinet
- 13:04Speaker 2: together and making appointments. That has not gotten a lot
- 13:08Speaker 2: of attention is the take out the trash everybody throwing
- 13:16Speaker 2: everybody under the bus in the Biden camp, the Harris camp.
- 13:20Speaker 2: We find out she blew through a billion dollars. She's
- 13:22Speaker 2: upside down in debt. They're begging for money with text
- 13:26Speaker 2: messages to liberals saying we need your help with accounting
- 13:28Speaker 2: of the votes and give money. Now, I wish I
- 13:31Speaker 2: was joking, but I'm not, and I don't know. Someone
- 13:34Speaker 2: said eighteen twenty million upside down. And then we found
- 13:37Speaker 2: out where a lot of the donations actually went. The
- 13:41Speaker 2: donations were going to celebrities. Oprah's had to come out
- 13:45Speaker 2: after there was a million dollar check given to her
- 13:48Speaker 2: Quote production company for production of a one day sit
- 13:52Speaker 2: down interview that we many people saw on TV with Oprah.
- 13:57Speaker 2: It doesn't cost a million dollars to produce that, but
- 13:59Speaker 2: that was the price tag. And then we found out
- 14:02Speaker 2: that there were a lot of celebrities that were being paid.
- 14:06Speaker 1: To act like they loved Kamala Harris.
- 14:08Speaker 2: And there are some Democratic donors that are livid right
- 14:12Speaker 2: now over the price tag on this.
- 14:15Speaker 3: You know, there's a terrific article in the Spectator World
- 14:18Speaker 3: entitled Kamala Harris ran the Fry Festival of Campaigns and
- 14:23Speaker 3: it points out that Trump's campaign spent roughly four hundred
- 14:26Speaker 3: and eighty eight million dollars and Kamala spent more than
- 14:29Speaker 3: a billion, So she outspent Trump more than two to one.
- 14:34Speaker 3: And Kamala's campaign ended up twenty million dollars in debt. Well,
- 14:39Speaker 3: it turns out where did that money go. Well, one
- 14:42Speaker 3: of the things that went to is they paid many
- 14:45Speaker 3: of the quote unquote celebrities who supported her. We were
- 14:50Speaker 3: getting paid and getting paid significant sums. So for example,
- 14:55Speaker 3: remember the Call Me Daddy podcast? Yeah, well apparently the
- 15:00Speaker 3: campaign spent upwards of six figures to build a custom
- 15:04Speaker 3: set for her appearance on the podcast, and the podcast
- 15:08Speaker 3: netted only eight hundred thousand downloads. Less than a million downloads. Look, Ben,
- 15:15Speaker 3: you and I we have roughly a million unique listeners.
- 15:17Speaker 3: If she wanted eight hundred thousand downloads, I'll tell you,
- 15:20Speaker 3: Kamala right now, even though you've lost Ben and I
- 15:23Speaker 3: will invite you on Verdict right now. We will welcome you.
- 15:27Speaker 3: We will not charge you to build a set, so
- 15:29Speaker 3: you can save all your money. And you paid Oprah
- 15:32Speaker 3: a million dollars for production costs, we will charge you
- 15:35Speaker 3: for production costs on Verdict. What do you think fifty bucks?
- 15:38Speaker 1: Sure? I think I took a fair price. Fifty bucks.
- 15:42Speaker 3: Fifty bucks will get you a very nice coffee cup
- 15:46Speaker 3: with some Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee. That's what we'll spend
- 15:50Speaker 3: the fifty bucks on. And you can reach the same
- 15:53Speaker 3: number of people all right. By the way, she also
- 15:56Speaker 3: turned down Joe Rogan, so call me daddy. Got eight
- 15:59Speaker 3: hundred thousand dowarsad, How how many do you think Joe
- 16:01Speaker 3: Rogan's interview.
- 16:02Speaker 1: Of Donald Trump got a lot more than that?
- 16:05Speaker 5: Forty seven million?
- 16:07Speaker 1: Wow, that's a lot. That's a lot.
- 16:11Speaker 3: So there were also seven swing state concerts with expensive performers,
- 16:18Speaker 3: and it turns out every one of them they got
- 16:20Speaker 3: a price. It is the world's oldest profession and they
- 16:23Speaker 3: are charging for it. So who are the performers that
- 16:26Speaker 3: got paid millions of dollars? Katie Perry, Lady Gaga, John
- 16:31Speaker 3: bon Jovi, Ricky Martin.
- 16:34Speaker 2: Hold On, you're telling me none of these people were
- 16:36Speaker 2: like doing it for free because they were all in
- 16:38Speaker 2: for Kama.
- 16:38Speaker 1: They wanted to get paid.
- 16:40Speaker 3: Show me the money. They ended up spending more than
- 16:44Speaker 3: twenty million dollars on event production alone. Oprah, as you noted,
- 16:49Speaker 3: charged a million dollars and and they went so far
- 16:55Speaker 3: into debt that the campaign allegedly had to scrap Alanis Morisset.
- 17:00Speaker 3: They were planning to do a lon of Morris set
- 17:02Speaker 3: and they said, no, okay, we can't afford her anymore.
- 17:05Speaker 5: Nevermind.
- 17:06Speaker 3: I mean, it is truly stunning, and you've got to wonder,
- 17:10Speaker 3: Like I gotta say, I don't get paying millions of
- 17:15Speaker 3: dollars for celebrities to fake endorse someone she spent paid
- 17:19Speaker 3: money to.
- 17:20Speaker 5: What Beyonce?
- 17:21Speaker 1: Well, let's go over the big ones.
- 17:23Speaker 2: This is coming from Fox and I'm gonna play this
- 17:26Speaker 2: this audio.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Take a listen.
- 17:28Speaker 2: This is again from Fox, as they were going through
- 17:32Speaker 2: how much cash was spent.
- 17:34Speaker 7: I can't get over these numbers. Ten million dollars for
- 17:37Speaker 7: Beyonce to step up and back Kamala Harris publicly, five
- 17:42Speaker 7: million for Megan the Stallion, three million for Lizzo, one
- 17:46Speaker 7: point eight million for em and M is that.
- 17:50Speaker 2: Those numbers are unbelievable if you just look at them.
- 17:53Speaker 2: And I was like, hold on a second, and I
- 17:56Speaker 2: went back and watched that clip a couple of different times,
- 17:59Speaker 2: because you've got them.
- 18:00Speaker 1: Ten million for Beyonce.
- 18:02Speaker 2: If you're a donor and you wrote a big check Meghan,
- 18:06Speaker 2: this Stallion, five million, Lizzo three million and one point
- 18:09Speaker 2: eight million, I called on, I just raised all this
- 18:11Speaker 2: money for you, and this is how you spent it.
- 18:14Speaker 3: Look, I gotta say I've run a bunch of campaigns.
- 18:17Speaker 3: I ran my first campaign for Senate in twenty twelve.
- 18:21Speaker 3: I ran my next campaign for president in twenty sixteen.
- 18:24Speaker 3: We won twelve states all over the country. I ran
- 18:27Speaker 3: my next campaign for Senate again in twenty eighteen, and
- 18:30Speaker 3: I just finished running my most recent campaign for Senate
- 18:33Speaker 3: reelect a third term in twenty twenty four. I can
- 18:38Speaker 3: tell you, in the whole time, I've never paid any
- 18:39Speaker 3: one a million dollars for anything. I don't think we
- 18:43Speaker 3: paid any entertainers. I don't know of any entertainers we paid.
- 18:47Speaker 3: Maybe at some point we paid five or ten grand
- 18:50Speaker 3: for someone performing at some party. I'm not aware of it,
- 18:53Speaker 3: but I can tell you this. Look our stars, now,
- 18:55Speaker 3: to be clear, the stars we have at our events
- 18:59Speaker 3: are are international, supermodeled, global talents like Ben Ferguson.
- 19:08Speaker 5: And I gotta tell you.
- 19:09Speaker 2: Want that ten million dollar payday once in my career,
- 19:11Speaker 2: like oh yeah, beyondest, Yeah yeah, I'm all in for
- 19:14Speaker 2: the cause, but I just seed ten million to make
- 19:16Speaker 2: it happen.
- 19:17Speaker 5: Okay, Ben, To be clear, we don't pay you ten dollars.
- 19:19Speaker 1: No, that's.
- 19:22Speaker 5: Look, I'm a fiscal conservative, damn it.
- 19:24Speaker 3: If you want to be there and you believe in
- 19:25Speaker 3: saving the country, stand up and save the country.
- 19:27Speaker 5: And if not, get the hell out.
- 19:29Speaker 3: But like, what is it with these lefties who ironically
- 19:34Speaker 3: they want to put socialists in office, who make it
- 19:37Speaker 3: impossible for people to earn a living, and yet they're
- 19:41Speaker 3: such capitalists that they're like, show me the money to
- 19:43Speaker 3: do it. I mean, there is an intense hypocrisy on this.
- 19:48Speaker 2: I believe this, and I'm not just saying this because
- 19:50Speaker 2: this moment in this headline, But I'm being dead serious.
- 19:54Speaker 2: This could be a huge problem for Democratic cants moving
- 19:57Speaker 2: forward because when you see this type of abuse campaign
- 20:00Speaker 2: finance money from donors, those same donors, somebody's going to
- 20:05Speaker 2: be asking them for money and four years or less
- 20:07Speaker 2: than four years from now.
- 20:09Speaker 3: And I'm the next time Beto O'Rourke, Collin all Red
- 20:14Speaker 3: jumps on a stage with with Willie Nelson, Everyone's going
- 20:18Speaker 3: to ask how much you pay him?
- 20:20Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 20:20Speaker 2: How much of my money did that I gave you?
- 20:22Speaker 2: Did you just give him for that thirteen minutes of
- 20:25Speaker 2: him singing?
- 20:26Speaker 3: It's it's an question, and it undermines the entire credibility
- 20:32Speaker 3: that I'm here because I love America so much and
- 20:34Speaker 3: you've got to vote for this candidate.
- 20:35Speaker 5: Look, I'll give you an example in the presidential race.
- 20:39Speaker 3: So one of the cooler people that I got to
- 20:41Speaker 3: meet and spend time with was Phil Robertson, you know
- 20:44Speaker 3: from Duck Dynasty.
- 20:45Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and here was I mean massive back in
- 20:48Speaker 2: the day, like unbelievable star.
- 20:51Speaker 5: Huge star.
- 20:51Speaker 3: And so so he invited me to Monroe, Louisiana to
- 20:55Speaker 3: come stay at his place, and I went out duck
- 20:57Speaker 3: hunting with Phil, which, by the way, ranks among the
- 20:59Speaker 3: cool things I've ever gotten to do. And we went
- 21:01Speaker 3: to the duck blind. We're there at four in the morning. Look,
- 21:05Speaker 3: I like to hunt in Texas. I gotta be careful
- 21:07Speaker 3: about what I say because there's so many really serious
- 21:11Speaker 3: hunters that I can't overstate. I go hunting a couple
- 21:14Speaker 3: times a year. I enjoy it, but I'm not someone
- 21:16Speaker 3: who like lives and breathes it. Phil in that duck blind,
- 21:20Speaker 3: I have never seen a person who is a better
- 21:23Speaker 3: shot with a shotgun. He would drop birds at a
- 21:26Speaker 3: distance that I wouldn't pick up my gun. They were
- 21:29Speaker 3: too far away. I'm like, yeah, if the duck flies
- 21:30Speaker 3: over here, I'll shoot it, but I can't shoot it
- 21:32Speaker 3: way over there. And he would just boom, and then
- 21:34Speaker 3: the dogs would swim out and grab the duck and
- 21:36Speaker 3: bring it back. And Phil, I'll tell you So I
- 21:41Speaker 3: went there and spent the day when hunting with him.
- 21:44Speaker 3: He recorded an ad for our campaign that we put out.
- 21:47Speaker 3: It remains one of my favorite ads we've ever done.
- 21:50Speaker 3: I'm all like wearing camo grease paint and I'm in
- 21:53Speaker 3: the duck blind with Phil.
- 21:54Speaker 5: It was really cool.
- 21:56Speaker 3: But Phil, it was during the Iowa Caucuses and we asked, Phil,
- 22:03Speaker 3: will you come to Iowa and campaign with me? And Phil,
- 22:06Speaker 3: for something like forty years, had not missed a single
- 22:11Speaker 3: day of duck season. He'd been out there every single
- 22:14Speaker 3: day for four decades, and we'd invited him to come.
- 22:20Speaker 3: And that morning he went to the blind at four
- 22:22Speaker 3: in the morning and he's sitting there in the blind
- 22:24Speaker 3: and I guess you know, it weighed on his heart.
- 22:28Speaker 3: I can't do this today. I need to go fight
- 22:29Speaker 3: to save America. And Phil left the blind and he
- 22:32Speaker 3: went and hopped on a plane and he flew to
- 22:34Speaker 3: Iowa and he did a big rally with me in Iowa.
- 22:37Speaker 3: And I told him then, I'm like, Phil, I am
- 22:39Speaker 3: beyond humboldt that you missed the first day of duck
- 22:44Speaker 3: season in forty years to be here in campaign alongside me. Now,
- 22:50Speaker 3: I didn't write m a damn check to do that.
- 22:52Speaker 3: I just said, if you gave.
- 22:53Speaker 2: Him beyond save money, you know you're like, oh, and
- 22:55Speaker 2: by the way, here's ten million dollars.
- 22:57Speaker 3: No. No, I just said, come help save America. And
- 23:00Speaker 3: it meant a lot like for him to miss it,
- 23:03Speaker 3: and that day we were literally touch and go. We
- 23:05Speaker 3: didn't know who's going to come, but it meant a
- 23:09Speaker 3: big deal when he came. If you're paying Beyonce ten
- 23:12Speaker 3: million dollars, I mean my good I mean goodness, who
- 23:16Speaker 3: would she not endorse for ten million dollars?
- 23:19Speaker 2: As before, If you want to hear the rest of
- 23:21Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and
- 23:24Speaker 2: dow the podcasts from earlier this week to hear the
- 23:27Speaker 2: entire thing.
- 23:29Speaker 1: I want to get back to the big story number
- 23:31Speaker 1: three of the week you may have missed.
- 23:34Speaker 2: So what is that? What is the purpose of the
- 23:36Speaker 2: secret ballot? Is that just so people can vote their
- 23:39Speaker 2: conscience and there's not so much you know, hoophar? Is
- 23:42Speaker 2: it to keep it more efficient? What's the what's or
- 23:44Speaker 2: is it just traditions? What's behind that?
- 23:46Speaker 5: Look?
- 23:47Speaker 3: Some of it is because you've got to work with
- 23:49Speaker 3: these people. Remember, the Senate's a small place. They're fifty
- 23:52Speaker 3: three of us, and and so you know, if you're
- 23:57Speaker 3: voting against the person who's your leader, that is a
- 24:02Speaker 3: small and awkward dynamic. So I would have liked the
- 24:06Speaker 3: ballot to be public. I would have absolutely supported making
- 24:09Speaker 3: it public. It's why I announced that I was voting
- 24:12Speaker 3: for Rick Scott, because I wanted to tell the voters.
- 24:15Speaker 3: But most of the senators don't, So I don't know.
- 24:18Speaker 3: I know some of the centers, some of the senators
- 24:20Speaker 3: chose to say who they were voting for. But I'd
- 24:22Speaker 3: say at least half the senators I have no idea
- 24:24Speaker 3: how they voted. They didn't say, they haven't publicly said.
- 24:28Speaker 3: And there is a dynamic when you're dealing with a
- 24:31Speaker 3: small enough group of people that you've got to after
- 24:34Speaker 3: the election, you've got to turn around and work not
- 24:36Speaker 3: just with whoever won, but whoever lost.
- 24:39Speaker 5: So I think that's some of the history.
- 24:41Speaker 3: It's always, to the best of my knowledge, it has
- 24:44Speaker 3: always been a secret ballot, and because of that dynamic,
- 24:49Speaker 3: and the other Senate leadership votes are secret ballot as well.
- 24:54Speaker 3: And look two years ago, in twenty twenty two, had
- 25:00Speaker 3: the first contested leadership ballot in sixteen years and two
- 25:06Speaker 3: years ago, Rick Scott challenged Mitch McConnell, and I was
- 25:10Speaker 3: the point of the spear. So the beginning of that
- 25:13Speaker 3: battle two years ago, the very first thing that happened
- 25:16Speaker 3: as I stood up and I made a motion to
- 25:19Speaker 3: delay the election for a month, so we were voting
- 25:23Speaker 3: two years.
- 25:24Speaker 2: We did a great show on this it's all coming
- 25:27Speaker 2: back to me now that you can go back and
- 25:29Speaker 2: listen to, because I think, if I'm not mistaken, we
- 25:31Speaker 2: did it like it two in the morning after the
- 25:34Speaker 2: voting had taken place, and you'd come out and told
- 25:36Speaker 2: this story. I would encourage everybody if you want to
- 25:39Speaker 2: go back and listen to this episode. Like you said,
- 25:41Speaker 2: it's like two years ago, and it was a big
- 25:43Speaker 2: fight then, and like you said, you were the one
- 25:45Speaker 2: leading that the tip of the spear on it.
- 25:47Speaker 3: Yep, and it was two years ago. It is always
- 25:51Speaker 3: the week after the election now. By the way, Republican
- 25:54Speaker 3: leadership does that because the people who vote are the
- 25:57Speaker 3: senators who will be the senators for the next two years.
- 26:00Speaker 3: So the brand new baby senators who were just elected
- 26:03Speaker 3: they vote. The senators who are retiring or leading the
- 26:06Speaker 3: Senate they don't vote. And part of the reason they
- 26:11Speaker 3: do that is because they want the brand new baby
- 26:16Speaker 3: senators not to know what they're doing, to be just
- 26:19Speaker 3: in their basement office, not to know where the men's
- 26:21Speaker 3: room is, and they don't want newly elected senators to
- 26:25Speaker 3: rock the vote. It's designed. It's actually a pretty cynical thing.
- 26:28Speaker 3: It's designed not to not to challenge the status quo.
- 26:32Speaker 3: So two years ago I made a motion, Look, twenty
- 26:36Speaker 3: twenty two should have been a fantastic election for Republicans.
- 26:40Speaker 3: We should have won the Senate. We should have we
- 26:41Speaker 3: should have grown our majority in the House. It should
- 26:43Speaker 3: have been a fantastic election. And it was a lousy election.
- 26:47Speaker 3: And I stood up and said, listen, we ought to
- 26:49Speaker 3: delay this this vote by a month, and we ought
- 26:52Speaker 3: to spend the month next month talking about why we
- 26:55Speaker 3: got our asses kicked, Like what's going wrong? And I
- 26:59Speaker 3: turned them at McConnell I said, listen, for the last
- 27:01Speaker 3: two years, we had a handful of Republicans team up
- 27:04Speaker 3: with the Democrats to pass the Democrats' priorities. Now, maybe
- 27:08Speaker 3: that's a good idea. Someone here can make the argument
- 27:11Speaker 3: why that's a good idea. I think it's dumb as hell.
- 27:13Speaker 3: But if you want to make the argument it's a
- 27:14Speaker 3: good idea, we ought to talk about it. What I
- 27:16Speaker 3: could tell you that is objectively true is the Democrats
- 27:19Speaker 3: never do that. Like when we had Trump was president,
- 27:22Speaker 3: we had a Republican Senate Republican House. There was not
- 27:25Speaker 3: a single bill we passed that consisted of all the
- 27:28Speaker 3: Republicans and a handful of Democrats joining us. They opposed everything,
- 27:32Speaker 3: and by the way, for the next two years, I
- 27:34Speaker 3: think they will as well. So I said, look, we
- 27:36Speaker 3: ought to debate. Whatever we did didn't work. We ought
- 27:40Speaker 3: to debated, and so I laid out. I gave a
- 27:41Speaker 3: forty five minute speech. I looked at Mitch McConnell and
- 27:44Speaker 3: I said, tell me, over the next two years, what
- 27:47Speaker 3: are you willing to fight over? I said, listen, you
- 27:50Speaker 3: and I may disagree. There are a lot of things
- 27:53Speaker 3: I think we should fight over. They're not for you,
- 27:55Speaker 3: But is there anything? Is there one thing you're willing
- 27:59Speaker 3: to fight on over the next two years. By the way,
- 28:02Speaker 3: Mitch refused to answer that question. We ended up after
- 28:05Speaker 3: I made the motion to delay the vote. I ended
- 28:07Speaker 3: up getting sixteen votes for that motion. I needed twenty five,
- 28:11Speaker 3: so we had forty nine Republicans, so I needed twenty
- 28:14Speaker 3: five for a majority, So I fell nine votes short.
- 28:18Speaker 3: Those sixteen votes were the first votes ever cast against
- 28:22Speaker 3: Mitch McConnell, and that was very consequential after that, Rick Scott,
- 28:27Speaker 3: because I failed to delay the election. Rick Scott ran
- 28:32Speaker 3: against Mitch. I voted for Rick. I was quite vocal
- 28:35Speaker 3: about it, and Rick got ten votes, and so that's
- 28:38Speaker 3: what happened. I was one of those ten. By the way,
- 28:41Speaker 3: after the votes, Mitch McConnell exacted retribution on the senators
- 28:47Speaker 3: who opposed him. So, for example, the Commerce Committee, both
- 28:51Speaker 3: Rick Scott and Mike Lee used to be on the
- 28:53Speaker 3: Commerce Committee, and Mitch McConnell uses his authority as the
- 28:57Speaker 3: GOP leader to throw them both off the Commerce cat
- 29:00Speaker 3: Many Eric Schmidt from Missouri who also voted against Mitch.
- 29:04Speaker 3: Eric Schmidt wanted to be on Judiciary, and Mitch used
- 29:07Speaker 3: his authority to orchestrate blocking him from being on Judiciary.
- 29:10Speaker 3: So there was there was There were real punitive measures
- 29:15Speaker 3: that were implemented attacking the people that dared stand up
- 29:20Speaker 3: to McConnell. So this time around, Rick Scott did better
- 29:25Speaker 3: than he did two years ago. Two years ago he
- 29:27Speaker 3: got ten votes. This time he got thirteen votes, so
- 29:29Speaker 3: we picked up three more votes. I don't know who
- 29:32Speaker 3: those three more votes were. I was one of those thirteen,
- 29:36Speaker 3: as i'd been one of those ten, but Rick did
- 29:39Speaker 3: not prevail, and then ultimately Thune prevailed on the second ballot,
- 29:44Speaker 3: so Thune will be the majority leader going forward.
- 29:47Speaker 2: So let's talk about Thune for just a second. What
- 29:50Speaker 2: do people need to know about him that maybe they
- 29:52Speaker 2: don't know.
- 29:53Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I like Johonthune. I've worked with him. I've
- 29:57Speaker 3: worked with Thune, I've worked with Korn, and I've worked
- 29:59Speaker 3: with three. I mean, the Senate is a small place.
- 30:02Speaker 3: It's a collegial place. If you want to actually accomplish
- 30:05Speaker 3: every anything, you've got to deal with and and work
- 30:08Speaker 3: cooperatively with your colleagues. John Thune is from South Dakota.
- 30:12Speaker 3: You know, he's a tall, good looking college athlete. He
- 30:15Speaker 3: was a college basketball player.
- 30:19Speaker 6: You know.
- 30:19Speaker 3: Thune and I, you know, used to he works out
- 30:25Speaker 3: every morning in the gym, and he's he's very fit.
- 30:28Speaker 3: I would work out at the same time he was,
- 30:30Speaker 3: and it was kind of embarrassing because he would lift
- 30:33Speaker 3: a lot more weight than I could lift, and he
- 30:34Speaker 3: would he would be like pumping iron. And it's sort
- 30:37Speaker 3: of humbling to watch Thune because he's just you know,
- 30:40Speaker 3: he's a he's a man in his early sixties who's
- 30:42Speaker 3: in really good shape. Look, Thune, I was not surprised
- 30:49Speaker 3: Thune one, because he's very well liked by his colleagues.
- 30:54Speaker 3: Thune is affable, he's he's a good guy. He's just
- 30:57Speaker 3: he's not a jerk. He's not he's everyone likes him.
- 31:01Speaker 3: It's just I mentioned before, the Senate is a little
- 31:04Speaker 3: bit like a junior high. You know, thun would win
- 31:08Speaker 3: the class president election. It's and a lot of it
- 31:13Speaker 3: is the kind of small, little personal dynamics that play
- 31:17Speaker 3: out on that. But as I said, I was not
- 31:19Speaker 3: surprised Thoon won. I will say a lot of the
- 31:22Speaker 3: Trump world was freaking out saying, oh, Thuon hates Donald
- 31:25Speaker 3: Trump and he's going to oppose everything Trump wants to do.
- 31:29Speaker 3: I think those concerns were overstated. Listen, John Thune is
- 31:33Speaker 3: majority leader in every senator is excited that we have
- 31:38Speaker 3: a Republican White House, Republican Senate, Republican House, and we
- 31:41Speaker 3: are really focused on delivering results and delivering on our
- 31:47Speaker 3: promises to the voters. And so I think Thune as
- 31:50Speaker 3: leader is going to focus on working very closely with
- 31:53Speaker 3: President Trump uh to to confirm his cabinet appointments to
- 31:58Speaker 3: move forward. Now, it doesn't necessarily mean that the Senate
- 32:01Speaker 3: is going to be a rubber stamp for one hundred
- 32:03Speaker 3: percent of everything that comes from the White House. Uh.
- 32:07Speaker 3: And it's not the Senate's job to be a rubber
- 32:09Speaker 3: stamp for everything that comes from the White House. Under
- 32:12Speaker 3: the Constitution, the Senate is supposed to have a role,
- 32:15Speaker 3: a role of on nominations, advice and consent, a role
- 32:19Speaker 3: of check and balance. But but I can tell you
- 32:22Speaker 3: that the sort of folks and I had multiple calls
- 32:26Speaker 3: from Trump's team very worried, Okay, is is Thun going
- 32:28Speaker 3: to fight us in everything we're doing?
- 32:30Speaker 5: And I was like, Okay, I no, I.
- 32:34Speaker 7: I So.
- 32:36Speaker 5: So today I had an hour long.
- 32:39Speaker 3: Meeting, UH with with Thune as the new majority leader
- 32:42Speaker 3: and with all the committee chairs, and the entire meeting
- 32:46Speaker 3: was talking about, Okay, how are we going to move
- 32:48Speaker 3: forward with with with tax reform, with extending the Trump
- 32:52Speaker 3: tax cuts, with with with regulatory reform, with unleashing energy,
- 32:56Speaker 3: with securing the border. How are we going to move
- 32:59Speaker 3: the legislative agenda so we can deliver big, big wins
- 33:04Speaker 3: in in the next year. And that was that was
- 33:08Speaker 3: the focus from Thune and every committee chairman. So I
- 33:12Speaker 3: think I understand. Look I voted for Rick Scott because
- 33:16Speaker 3: I think Rick was offering the greatest change. But at
- 33:19Speaker 3: the end of the day, to prevail, you've got to
- 33:21Speaker 3: be able to get a majority of the Republican Senators,
- 33:23Speaker 3: and Rick did not.
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