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[BxBD] Itauma-Franklin and Fundora-Thurman coming up · Boxing B-Sides

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  This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
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  Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
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  Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
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  Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
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  is Boxing Before Dark. Here we go. Okay. Holy
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  shit, it is Boxing Before Dark. We got an old
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  familiar face. Drip. Holy shit. Hey, you boys
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  back. Back to talk the fights. How you been?
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  Been good, been good. Just busy with life and
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  other stuff, but overall good. Can't complain.
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  Hopefully you guys have been well. Oh, yeah.
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  You know why I've been well? I won the fucking
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  ticket lottery. I get to see Inoue and Nakatani
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  live in Tokyo Dome. Oh, that's going to be exciting.
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  That's super cool. I'm so stoked. Yeah, yeah.
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  I've just been, like, buzzing for three days.
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  As you should. Buzzing in a more literal sense,
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  too. Yeah, yeah. Celebrating a little bit. Yeah,
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  yeah, a little. Maybe. A lot of it. Yeah, the
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  day I got the tickets, I may or may not have
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  gotten out and gotten pretty drunk. Some Italians
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  were visiting. We went and sang karaoke until,
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  like, 2 a .m. on a Tuesday. Work was a little
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  rough on Wednesday. I bet. Man, lottery winner.
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  I was so convinced that the system was rigged
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  against foreigners. I was, too, because I've
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  entered, I think, six of these, and I have won
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  zero of them. But I pulled through when it mattered.
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  It's fine. Clutch. You won the one that matters.
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  Yeah. My buddy from Kanazawa that I haven't seen
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  in person for like a year and a half also got
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  a ticket. We're going for lunch. We're going
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  to the fights. It's going to be great. We're
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  not sitting together, but it doesn't matter.
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  Yeah, as long as you're there. Yeah. Well, speaking
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  of winning the one that matters, Punch. They
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  call him Punchy -kun. in Japan. Little Punch
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  has a girlfriend and it just so happens that
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  the girlfriend is a similar shade to his stuffy.
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  I thought that was pretty cute. Yeah, she's very
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  orange for that kind of monkey. Very Freudian.
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  Oh, Punch the monkey, right? Yeah. Yeah, Little
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  Punch. We've been giving updates on the podcast.
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  Yeah, the opening bit, it's been Keeping Up With
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  Punch. Keeping Up With Chuck Norris. Oh my goodness.
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  Have you heard? Yeah. Yeah. Sad times. He was
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  definitely up there in age. He was like 86 or
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  something. 87. Yeah, he was up there. Kicking
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  Hitler's ass now. Merit. Oh, man. Let's get into
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  the fight news because we've got some big signings.
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  Top Rank has signed a multi -year, non -exclusive
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  deal with The Zone. The approximate budget is
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  $5 million a year. I've been seeing varying numbers
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  between 8 to 12 shows a year. So that's pretty
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  good. Not bad. Yeah. Not bad at all. I think
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  the, I think Saul was saying in chat that 5 million
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  a year does not seem like that much when top
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  rank does have a little bit of star power. So
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  my thinking is the non -exclusive part is they
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  take, like they take Xander Zayas off to pay
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  -per -view somewhere. Yeah. Or they, I wouldn't
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  be surprised if they're trying to get a deal
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  with ESPN or someone else as well. That would
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  be interesting. Eight to 12 shows a year on DAZN,
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  that's a lot of fighters that you've got to keep
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  active. And then you have to also feed ESPN?
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  No, I think the non -exclusive would be same
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  fight on different networks at the same time.
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  I see what you mean. Like, it's airing on ESPN
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  and DAZN. Because some people don't have ESPN.
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  True. Yeah, I think I got rid of it, actually.
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  I don't use it anymore. Once UFC left? I mean,
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  yeah, honestly. That was pretty much the reason
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  I leave. The Paramount deal, which hasn't been
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  a great start so far, but I feel like it was...
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  It looks promising, but we'll see how that goes.
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  Yeah, like, well, top rank in this situation.
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  I don't know. I think it's good. Like, they've
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  been in limbo as long as they have. So they have
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  a landing spot. So that's good. Well, and the
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  zone's more worldwide. I wouldn't be surprised
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  if they get, like, a U .S. provider or something.
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  Yeah. I see what you mean. Maybe they could do
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  a rival Zufa and go on Paramount+. Oh, Zufa.
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  Calm Kimo Sabe will get there. So many questions
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  and concerns. Top Rank and Matchroom signed a
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  multi -year partnership. This isn't very surprising.
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  They're on the same network now. I think whatever
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  gets cross -promotional fights done. I'm here
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  for it. I don't think it's a bad move at all.
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  Do you think we'll get another 5v5 sort of thing?
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  Because that was kind of fun. I don't think it's
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  necessarily Turkey if it's DAZN. They're probably
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  going to source their cash from Turkey, unfortunately.
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  But I can only hope that this is funded by Ham
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  instead. That was good. Top Rank and Matchroom.
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  It's strange to me that they signed something
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  explicit. Because Golden Boy and Matchroom have
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  been doing cross -promotional stuff for a while
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  now. Curious what the need for the deal is. I
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  wonder if this is sort of just signaling, like,
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  we're actually going to work together. Not like
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  those fucks over at Zufa. To the boxers more
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  than anyone. Like, maybe the fans don't care
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  so much, but boxers are like, if I sign with
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  top rank, they're going to work with other people
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  and it'll be easier to get belts. Yeah, I think
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  you're right. It's a good signal. I think to
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  the sport at large. Yeah. If nothing else, it's
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  a good signal. Speaking of signals, fucking Golden
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  Boy re -signs with DAZN. Multi -year deal. I
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  haven't seen any specifics on it yet. Just multi
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  -year deal. Not surprised with that one. Where
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  else are they going to go? Right. What, ESPN?
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  Yeah. Golden Boy's on their last legs, really.
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  Like, they're losing everybody. Who do they really
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  have? Just what, Garcia? Virgil. Virgil. Virgil
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  and Garcia? Yeah, that's about it. Doesn't Virgil
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  want out? Yes. He's trying. He's trying to get
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  out. So then, really, all they have is Garcia.
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  Who has also made efforts to leave before. They're
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  in shambles, but that's a dumb problem. Yeah,
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  if anybody needs a partnership deal, it's Goldenboy.
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  Yeah. But all those guys being on DAZN should
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  make cross -platform or cross -promoter fights
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  easier. Yeah, definitely. Well, making cross
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  -promotional fights, you know who's not doing
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  that? Zufa Boxing. They've signed a multi -year
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  deal with Sky Sports. Uh, yeah. I don't have
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  a lot to say on this one. Did we ever... Did
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  we get an update on the IBF and Opitaya? I haven't
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  heard anything. I wasn't going to hear that.
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  I haven't either. It just kind of disappeared.
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  So I guess they didn't strip them. But... It's
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  just kind of weird, though, because... That's
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  the whole thing that Dana was complaining about.
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  It's like all these different belts and he's
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  just kind of playing into it now by letting Jai,
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  I guess, do that. Does that make sense? Like,
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  cuck all his belts and the Zufa belts. Like,
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  alright, well, now which side of the corner do
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  you want? Precisely. Yeah, the whole thing with
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  Zufa was to be exclusive. One belt like the UFC
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  does. But you're letting, again, Jai have the
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  IVF or whatever it is. Are they going to strip
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  him? Are they not? And if he does get stripped,
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  can he really complain? It's almost like, hey,
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  dude, you knew what you were signing up for.
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  I don't think Opataya had any fucking idea. I
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  feel like that's just a fail on his team's part,
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  then. I think his team knew. But I don't think
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  Jai did. Everybody knew the whole point of Zufa
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  was to have just one belt scenario type thing.
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  If Jai's team didn't inform him, that's... Terrible.
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  Yeah, I really think he just got scammed. Like,
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  are they paying him well? Word on the street
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  is that Zufa is paying him better than he was
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  getting paid before. But not well. It's not saying
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  a lot. Yeah, it's a low bar to get over. I mean,
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  I guess, like, making more money and having easier
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  fights can't really beat that, right? Can crushing.
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  Unless you don't... If you don't care about the
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  belts, but Jai clearly cares about the belts.
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  Like, that rant he went on at the end of that
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  last fight. That's all he cares. But it's like,
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  you can't rant, bro. You signed up for this.
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  Yeah, I agree. I don't... Either his team failed
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  him, or somebody failed him. Somebody just outright
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  failed Jai with that. I mean, I don't know how
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  long his Zufa contract's for or how many fight
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  deals it's for, but well, you're stuck with him
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  now. Yeah. The whole Zufa thing is just so odd
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  to me, but we'll get into that. Yes. Moving on,
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  Armando Resendiz is going to be fighting Jaime
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  Mugia on the Benavidez -Zurdo undercard. I think
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  it's going to be the co -main. So that's cool.
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  That is. Sam Noakes, just a little FYI for the
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  masses, the huddled masses that have been awaiting
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  news on Sam Noakes. He's going to be on the next
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  top tier promotions card on DAZN. So that's fun.
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  I think that might be the biggest name they've
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  gotten to date. Sam Noakes? Yeah. That's not
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  saying a lot. I know. Are those top tier? Yes.
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  Yeah, I haven't heard of them. Who the hell is
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  top tier promotions? They're on DAZN. They usually
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  run on Sundays. Oh, they're a UK promotion. Yes.
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  They're matchmakers, Allie Drew. I sat next to
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  her at an event once. She's very pretty. All
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  right. Yeah, it's great. Great storytelling.
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  Thanks. Go me. David Allen will be headlining
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  a Queensberry card against a quote, top 15 opponent.
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  Nice. David Allen, see what you can do, Mr. White
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  Rhino. That's not saying a lot. Top 15 in this
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  heavyweight division? Yeah, yeah. If it's not
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  like top five, it's probably ass. I can't even
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  imagine. Who's the top 10 heavyweights in boxing
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  right now? But this is exactly the plan he was
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  talking about after his last fight. Fight a decent
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  opponent and then, like, a cash -out fight against
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  Zhang. That's right. That is the roadmap that
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  he laid out. Yeah. So. I don't know. I like seeing
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  Dave Allen fight just because he's going to die
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  when he quits. Like, his lifestyle sucks. Could
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  it be Jerry Anderson? Could that be it? Oh, that's
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  right. He's about to sign with them. I forgot
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  to put that in the notes. Because top 15 means
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  anyone from 1 through 15, which is kind of scary.
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  So, I mean, it could be Anderson. Could it be
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  a Coley? I don't think so, actually. Is a Coley
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  with Queensberry? I don't know who Coley's with.
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  I do my best to not pay attention to that man.
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  Yeah, no, me either. He's boring as fuck. Right.
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  If I had to assume. a few names. Just a few from
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  heavyweight. Who Mr. Allen could be fighting
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  next? It's either Anderson, Bacoli, or Zhang.
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  Bacoli's busy. He has a fight coming up. Okay,
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  so not Bacoli. Zhang, maybe? Oh, Bacoli. I thought
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  you said O 'Coli, like Lawrence O 'Coli. No,
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  no, no. Bacoli, like Martin. Yeah, Martin Bacoli.
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  Okay, that... David Allen's probably going to
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  get fucking slimed if he fights Bacoli. Well,
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  really, if he fights anyone in the top 15, he's
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  probably getting slimed, if we're going to be
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  honest. Yeah, you're right. Oh, actually, I don't
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  know. I'd give him a chance against Anderson.
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  Anderson has a lot of quit in him. Yeah. He doesn't
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  have that dog in him. He has that cat. Anderson's
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  got a lot of quit in him. I could see Allen taking
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  that fight and probably winning. Lawrence Okoli
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  is with Queensberry. Maybe they give David Allen
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  an extended camp so that he doesn't come in as
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  a flubby... Fucking 340 pounds or whatever he
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  was last fight. Yeah, exactly. I mean, Okoli's
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  going to come in looking like shit. So David
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  Allen just has to look less shit by comparison.
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  And that's a win. Is this going to be a win?
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  Kell Brook, his April 11th return has been postponed.
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  Kell Brook. Yeah. That Kell Brook. Yeah. Broken
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  eyes, Kell Brook. That's the one. He was going
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  to make his return April 11th in Dubai. That
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  has been postponed for safety reasons. Who's
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  he going to fight? His eye doctor? I think it's
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  a local kid. but I don't really know. The fall
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  from grace is just amazing. Yeah, there's no
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  reason for Kell Brook to come back. No, not at
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  all. Don't get me wrong. I like Kell Brook, but
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  why? What are you trying to prove? Money. That's
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  it. That's got to be it. How much is he really
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  getting paid for a local kid? Good question.
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  I imagine the Emiratis would pay him nicely,
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  though. Didn't he get paid like a metric ton
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  for the Amir Khan fight a couple years back?
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  That was such a shit fight. Shit fight, but what
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  were those purses looking like? I'm curious.
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  Kell Brook, at least three million. At least
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  three mil? Yeah, when they fight 2022, he blew
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  through three million in four years. Extended
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  holidays in fancy resorts or villas. Ebony bridges
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  demanding nice outings. Is that who he's seeing?
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  Yes. She's got money too. There's just no way.
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  What is he doing, man? I mean, if Mayweather
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  can go broke, anybody can go broke. Yeah, I guess
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  that's true. I just don't want to see a Broken
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  Orbital's Kell Brook beat up some teenager. It
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  just doesn't do it for me. Or get beat up by
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  some teenager. Or get beat up by a teenager,
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  yeah. How old is this man now? What would be
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  more pathetic? For him to beat up some 19 -year
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  -old boy? Or for a 19 -year -old boy to whoop
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  his ass? Getting your ass whooped is always worse.
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  Yeah, getting your ass whooped. like like he
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  can beat up a 19 year old prospect if people
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  can be like ah like you know he's a gatekeeper
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  who still who still got it but if he gets by
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  a 19 year old then it's like damn dog it's time
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  to put them up put them back up and don't put
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  them back down yeah stop stop coming back bro
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  yeah that's like wilder stop it man leave it
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  alone Well, speaking of coming back, Bam is making
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  his plans to return to the ring. It's looking
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  like it's going to be in Phoenix in June. Fucking
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  goddamn right I'm going to be there. Right now,
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  people keep saying in chat, in Discord, they're
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  saying, like, why is Bam really so focused on
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  Undisputed? What does that even matter? We all
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  know he's the best super flyweight, right? And
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  while that's true, I don't know, it's just Bam's
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  goal. Just having spoken to the man directly
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  about it, what he said was he doesn't like being
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  overlooked in pound -for -pound considerations
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  because the people that are put ahead of him
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  all have the undisputed accolade, and he doesn't.
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  That makes sense. Yeah. Well, and, like, history
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  might forget. how much better Bam was. And people
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  in 20 years will be like, well, he was never
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  undisputed. He couldn't have been that good,
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  you know? Right, because look at these other
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  guys that did go undisputed, so. Yeah. I guess
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  he wants to just cement his legacy. Yeah. Because
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  it's Willie Baldo's got that last belt, right?
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  Willie Baldo, and he has to fight his mandatory
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  Andrew Maloney. which is coming up soon. Such
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  a fucking waste of time. IBF gonna IBF. So the
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  idea, at least Eddie Hearn has been saying he
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  wants Bam to go up to 118. Fight one of the title
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  holders there. I think they're aiming at the
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  WBA guy. I think his name's Antonio Vargas. I
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  don't even know who's in the 118 division. Yeah,
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  it's Antonio Vargas right now. Because they're
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  fucking over my boy again. I was trying to think
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  of a burger pun. I don't want to say a fight
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  stab at all. He would get wrecked, but... So,
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  does... What else could he do? Take one of the
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  mandatories for his other belts? Or... Is 118
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  get a belt in the third division? Is that the
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  better move? I say move up to phantom white.
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  Go back for the last belt. Yeah. Up and down
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  at those little weight classes is hard. I don't
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  like when people go up and back down. It almost
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  never works. I'm sure Bam can do it. He's still
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  young. I'm sure you can handle it, but... He's
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  a small frame guy. You definitely handle it.
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  Last thing. Boots, Xander, Zaius are in preliminary
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  talks. With top rank now on DAZN, this is going
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  to be very easy to get done. Boots versus Xander,
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  Zaius. What? Does Boots just school him the whole
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  time? Does he stop him? I don't think he stops
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  him. I don't think he stops him. I mean, Xander
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  Zayas is like no slouch, but I don't think he's...
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  He's not on Boots' level. Yeah. Yeah, I don't...
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  Zayas has been pulling off wins I didn't think
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  he'd pull off. Yeah, again, he's just no slouch,
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  but I think he's just too young to be experienced.
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  Yeah, but I like that he's taking the fight.
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  Yes. Yeah, for sure. I like he's taking it. Like,
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  challenging himself. I mean, now, if he wins,
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  if he wins that fight, you know people are going
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  to bully Boots. Oh my god, so badly. He will
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  never recover. Oh my god, it'd be terrible. Yeah.
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  Is that frame -mocking? Is that what the kids
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  are saying these days? I just call it bullying.
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  I've been trying to think of the tagline for
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  this one. Now, you would think with Zayas being
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  the unified champion that his name comes first
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  in the promotional materials. So would it be
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  Zootz or Booyahs? Zootz. Zootz sounds better.
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  Zootz does sound better. Zootz does sound better.
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  We gotta get Saul with his suits. Man, I... I
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  don't know, man. I mean, Boots is probably gonna
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  win, don't get me wrong. But man, if he loses
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  to Xander Zayas, I don't know, tell him. Godspeed.
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  The running joke in Discord right now is... X
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  happens before Virgil gets a belt. Doesn't matter
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  how obscure the thing is. Like Chuck Norris dies
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  before Virgil gets a belt? There's a member that
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  competed in the Golden Gloves Masters tournament.
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  And he won his bracket. And so it was like...
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  this user got a belt before Virgil did. That's
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  so funny. So it would be boots is washed before
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  Virgil gets a belt. Nice. I mean, it's a possibility.
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  It's possible. What if it's like a close decision?
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  Would that make it better? I don't think so.
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  I think it might make it worse, actually. Why
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  would that be worse than getting... Well, no,
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  actually, no. No, I lie. Sorry. It wouldn't be
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  worse. But no, it still wouldn't be great either.
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  No, of course not. Losing to Zayas would be,
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  like you said, it would be next to impossible
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  to come back from that. Yeah. There's just nothing
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  good that comes out of it, no matter how... If
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  Boots were to lose, no matter how he loses, it's
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  just not a good look regardless. But also, if
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  Boots, which he will, if Boots beats Xander,
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  and it's like a back and forth, like a struggle
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  bus, that's not a good look either. It's like,
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  you won! But it didn't look great. It's kind
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  of like when we watched Crawford versus Madrimov.
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  We're like, eh, you won. But they don't look
• 25:26
  too good. Not the best. We expected more. Yeah.
• 25:29
  Yeah. And I left a lot of questions. So, like,
• 25:31
  if Boots beats Sander like that, it's not great
• 25:35
  either. He has to, like, really, like, actually
• 25:38
  beat him. Like, put on a show. Is that... Aura
• 25:43
  farming? Is that what the kids call it? I'm really
• 25:46
  trying to... I think that's what old people like
• 25:49
  us call it. I'm trying to do my best to just
• 25:54
  fuck up this terminology. To get rid of any young
• 26:00
  listeners we have. Yeah. Let's see. Anything
• 26:04
  more for the news? What do you got? Yeah, I was
• 26:07
  going to say, I know that's the last thing you
• 26:08
  had, but I just wanted to mention the PSA about
• 26:11
  Tommy Hearns. Oh, yeah. So last week we talked
• 26:16
  about how he was putting conservatorship, his
• 26:19
  sons, in charge. The son came out and said, don't
• 26:24
  donate money to any fundraisers that have been
• 26:27
  put up online. There was a GoFundMe and there
• 26:30
  might be more. They are put up by family members,
• 26:34
  but Tommy's not getting any of the money. The
• 26:36
  family members are just pocketing it. So he's
• 26:39
  asked Tommy's fans to not donate to any of those.
• 26:44
  Which is terrible. That you even have to say
• 26:49
  it. God, it's so fucked up. Yeah, I know people
• 26:53
  want to help Tommy Hearns, but apparently any
• 26:55
  of those GoFundMes and Kickstarter, well, not
• 26:58
  Kickstarter, but you know what I mean. Those
• 27:00
  online things, he's not getting the money. Save
• 27:04
  your money, don't give it to his probably awful
• 27:10
  daughter. It seems to be that she's the one putting
• 27:14
  them up. that's crazy fucking terrible yeah yeah
• 27:22
  oh actually wait i do have some news also that
• 27:24
  i saw this morning or maybe it was last night
• 27:26
  i don't remember i'm sure you guys saw it too
• 27:28
  but did you guys see uh john fury's rant how
• 27:33
  he like quote unquote separated from tyson fury
• 27:35
  he's like no longer no like so i'll give like
• 27:39
  a synopsis real quick it's actually the dumbest
• 27:40
  thing in the world um I guess John Fury's not
• 27:44
  going to be in this camp or maybe camps moving
• 27:46
  forward. I don't know if you want to correct
• 27:48
  me on that, Leo. But apparently, yeah, he's not
• 27:51
  in this Mac Madoff camp. He's not in this camp.
• 27:54
  And he's saying that this, like, ruined his and
• 27:58
  Tyson's, like, relationship. And he's, like,
• 28:01
  not, like, disowning him, but, like, I guess
• 28:04
  for lack of better words, disowning him, essentially.
• 28:08
  Why? Because he's fighting Mac Madoff and he
• 28:10
  doesn't want him to? Because he's not... Because
• 28:13
  Tyson didn't want him in his training camp for
• 28:15
  this one. Oh, so Tyson more disowned his father.
• 28:21
  I don't know if he... Disassociating... Disassociating
• 28:25
  him from the training camp? No, no. We have to
• 28:28
  be very exaggerating for clicks. Oh, fair enough.
• 28:32
  Clip that. Tyson Fury disowned Big John. Yeah,
• 28:38
  and I guess Big John is like going on a rant
• 28:40
  now over the media saying that like... him and
• 28:42
  his son's relationship is like tarnished you
• 28:45
  know never be the same yeah never be the same
• 28:48
  it's almost like the eubank senior and i was
• 28:51
  just just gonna say do you think it's a eubank
• 28:54
  thing where it's all just fake for engagement
• 28:57
  probably yeah i mean the furies let's be honest
• 29:01
  are odd people yeah i i love test and fury he's
• 29:06
  a character at one point he was a He's fun to
• 29:09
  watch. I mean, he still is fun to watch boxing,
• 29:11
  but at one point, you know, he was actually,
• 29:12
  like, really pretty good. But, man, that family
• 29:16
  is just full of fucking characters. Also, the
• 29:19
  timing is because they're with a new season of,
• 29:24
  you know, Keeping Up with the Furies is coming
• 29:26
  out soon, too, so this all seems very, like,
• 29:28
  timed properly. Like, season two of his show
• 29:30
  is coming out on Netflix. His fight's coming
• 29:32
  up. John Fury's going on a tangent. All of a
• 29:35
  sudden, it's... Good marketing. Is John Fury
• 29:39
  going to be in the metaphorical cut chair of
• 29:43
  the new TV season? Probably. But I also did see
• 29:50
  some things that John Fury was saying. Like he
• 29:52
  said, Deontay Wilder broke Tyson Fury, and he's
• 29:57
  never been the same since those fights. What?
• 30:01
  I don't know. I mean, maybe. Those were hard
• 30:04
  fights, so maybe. Yeah, Wilder fucking blasted
• 30:09
  him quite a few times. Yeah, I mean, the second
• 30:11
  fight, Wilder didn't do much, but the first fight
• 30:13
  and the third fight, I mean, the third fight,
• 30:15
  Wilder, like, he beat the brakes off him a little
• 30:17
  bit. But also, so did Nagano. Nagano dropped
• 30:22
  him, kind of beat the brakes off him. Yeah, coming
• 30:25
  off of a long retirement, didn't take camp seriously,
• 30:29
  and a dude known for having fucking nuclear missiles
• 30:32
  in his hands. He may not be a boxer, he's still
• 30:37
  a fucking fighter, man. You gotta take this seriously.
• 30:41
  Tyson getting dropped and going to distance with
• 30:44
  Nagano, and then AJ slamming Nagano in two rounds
• 30:48
  probably didn't look good for him either. But
• 30:51
  it also didn't help that Usyk almost knocked
• 30:53
  Fury out in their first fight, so I don't know
• 30:57
  if maybe Wilder broke him particularly, but I
• 31:00
  think just the recent events of his career maybe
• 31:02
  have broken him. Well... Any more news? Let's
• 31:08
  check Reddit. I don't know if you might have
• 31:12
  gone over this on the UFC one, but the White
• 31:15
  House card, all the feedback on that one. We
• 31:17
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• 31:21
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• 31:24
  That card fucking sucks. I don't care what anyone
• 31:27
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• 31:32
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• 31:33
  all means, go for it. But you can't tell me that
• 31:35
  shit's not trash. After all the hype they gave
• 31:37
  it, terrible. That's where I'll leave it. All
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• 35:34
  March 13th, ProBox TV. In Kissimmee, Florida.
• 35:41
  I was unimpressed with the Valle brothers. I
• 35:48
  expected better. I know that they're Probox in
• 35:52
  -house guys. So they're going to get the hype,
• 35:58
  the media push. But still, for how much Probox
• 36:01
  hypes them up, I don't feel like they really
• 36:03
  lived up to it. You know what did live up to
• 36:09
  it? Najee Lopez stops Manuel Gallegos in eight.
• 36:15
  What a fight. Hell of a fight. If you haven't
• 36:18
  seen it, go watch it. I'm going to go watch it
• 36:22
  again. It's so good. I have watched it again.
• 36:26
  Knockdowns on both sides. Just high action. Blood
• 36:31
  everywhere. Yeah. No, it was great. Gallegos
• 36:37
  is pretty tough, too. He was taking some bombs.
• 36:40
  I was surprised that he never... I thought there
• 36:46
  would have been more knockdowns with how cleanly
• 36:49
  Gallegos was getting hit. Yeah, no, he was eating
• 36:53
  some big punches. And it was the 7th, right?
• 36:59
  Najee had him hurt. And then Gallegos came back
• 37:02
  and knocked Najee down. Yeah. Yeah, that's right.
• 37:08
  Gallegos looked like he was out on his feet.
• 37:11
  Like, completely, like, punch drunk, just out
• 37:15
  of it. I didn't know how he survived it. And
• 37:17
  Nagi came in to finish it and, you know, was
• 37:21
  a little not careful enough. And Gallegos caught
• 37:24
  him real good. Like, that wasn't a flash knockdown.
• 37:27
  That was a real knockdown. Yes. Isn't that what
• 37:31
  the first knockdown was? A bit flashy? Flash
• 37:34
  -ish? I think. Yeah, yeah. Well, it was early
• 37:41
  in the fight. That was like the second round?
• 37:43
  No, second round was the head clash. I'm looking
• 37:48
  at... They cut Najee. Lopez down in round seven.
• 37:52
  That's all that's listed, though. That's weird.
• 37:55
  Oh, did they not? It was... Yeah, they didn't
• 37:58
  count it. Oh, no, that was the head clash. That's
• 38:03
  right. In the second round, there was a head
• 38:05
  clash, and Gallegos did land a punch as Najee
• 38:09
  was going down, but the ref did a really good
• 38:11
  job and called it a head clash, didn't call it
• 38:15
  a knockdown. Man, this is an instance, I like
• 38:21
  to call it victory and defeat. Gallegos put his
• 38:26
  name out there, put on a hell of a show. Pauly
• 38:30
  and Chris were saying, yeah, we're definitely
• 38:32
  going to be having him back. He'll be back on
• 38:35
  Pro Box, and I'll be watching. Hell yeah. Yeah.
• 38:40
  Man, another chapter in the Puerto Rico -Mexico
• 38:43
  rivalry. Moving to Saturday, March 14th. Just
• 38:53
  breezing over this one really quickly. Fucking
• 38:55
  Anthony Caccacci. gets the WBA 130 title off
• 39:00
  of Jazza Dickens. Josh's favorite Brit slayer
• 39:07
  continues to rack up the wins. Kikachi's a Brit.
• 39:12
  The whole Irish thing is just marketing. What?
• 39:17
  That's interesting. Anthony Kikachi? He's Italian.
• 39:22
  I don't know that. I always thought he was straight
• 39:24
  Irish. Oh. Don't fool me. Well, I mean, his parents
• 39:31
  are Italian, but you know what I mean. He was
• 39:35
  born in Belfast. Moving on to Golden Boy at the
• 39:43
  Honda Center in Anaheim, California. How was
• 39:47
  this one? I missed it, but it was kind of like
• 39:50
  a forward to Barbosa, kind of Sims. I really
• 39:55
  started keeping track at Gabby. She beat the
• 40:00
  shit out of Viviana Ruiz. Ruiz was game, but
• 40:03
  she beat that ass. It was just another Gabby
• 40:10
  fucking schooling. Gabby getting knockouts. Small
• 40:15
  women don't get knockouts, and she's had four
• 40:20
  in a row, I think. Women typically don't get
• 40:25
  knockouts. Smaller dudes don't get knockouts,
• 40:28
  typically. And Gabby's over here racking them
• 40:32
  up. What's her weight class again? 112. 112.
• 40:37
  She's talking about going down to 108. Why? No
• 40:42
  need. Why do you just have to continue to sweep
• 40:48
  up? Are you going to go for triple undisputed
• 40:53
  as well? I mean, it'd be cool. Sit on the throne
• 40:57
  next to Bud. Hold on. I'm trying to make a hypothetical
• 41:05
  fight here in my head. I just got to look something
• 41:06
  up. Like the broadcast team, we're talking about
• 41:11
  Sanisa Estrada or Sanisa Mannix now coming out
• 41:16
  of retirement to face Gabby. And Chris was like,
• 41:19
  no, I don't want my wife in the ring with her.
• 41:25
  I say Gabby move up and fight Skye Nicholson.
• 41:31
  Gabby would fucking destroy Skye Nicholson. That's
• 41:35
  10 pounds away. I don't care. Sharnika Johnson
• 41:38
  is in 118. That'd be a fun fight, actually. Sharnika
• 41:43
  Johnson. Yeah, she's fun. Ebony Bridges is around.
• 41:49
  She's fun. Her weigh -ins are interesting. Fun
• 41:55
  to look at. There's not much else, though. Yeah.
• 41:59
  I mean, maybe Gabi moves up, fights Skydeck from
• 42:03
  saying, like, a blockbuster fight. Just saying.
• 42:06
  Be a fun fight to watch. Absolutely. She could
• 42:10
  go up one weight class and fight Trenica Johnson.
• 42:13
  That would be fun. Yeah. Yeah, Nyx is good. I
• 42:18
  like her. I support. Shanada, did you put together
• 42:27
  a formal speech? About JoJo? Alexis Rocha, UD
• 42:34
  over Joseph JoJo fucking pedo ass BS. I heard
• 42:38
  this fight was terrible, apparently. It was bad.
• 42:41
  I'm disappointed in Rocha. Like, if you can't
• 42:45
  get fucking JoJo out, what are you doing? And
• 42:48
  how is JoJo still getting fights? Golden boy.
• 42:52
  Oh, yeah. I mean, I guess that's all you got.
• 42:57
  Yeah. Yep. I don't know. This was disappointing
• 43:01
  all around. No, I didn't put together a formal
• 43:06
  speech because it was so ass. Yeah. Well, I'll
• 43:12
  play the diplomat on this one. This is... A formal
• 43:18
  apology to anybody who might have heard that
• 43:21
  clip that I put out on social media where we
• 43:24
  were talking about Alexis Rocha whooping up on
• 43:27
  fucking JoJo. And that certainly did not happen.
• 43:34
  Yeah. If you were watching, hoping to see a diddler
• 43:38
  get his comeuppance, you definitely did not get
• 43:42
  that. So, apologies. Yeah. Disappointing performance
• 43:47
  by Rocha. Not the diddler. Let the diddler live.
• 43:52
  The worst of the Batman villains. The diddler.
• 43:58
  Jared. Moving up. Oscar Collazo retires Jesus
• 44:07
  Haro to retain his WBO minimum weight titles.
• 44:15
  Not surprising. No. But also not the fight I
• 44:19
  wanted to see. So I'm still angry about that.
• 44:24
  Well, now that they have DAZN money, they can
• 44:28
  get Melvin back. They can pay the Filipinos finally.
• 44:33
  Yeah. Even though the Filipinos floated themselves
• 44:38
  to get there. Bullshit. But yeah, no, Colazo...
• 44:43
  Did collazo things. I thought he looked good.
• 44:45
  Yeah. It was a clear mismatch. We had said that
• 44:49
  from the beginning. Not much else to say beyond
• 44:55
  that other than this is an instance where undisputed
• 44:59
  is necessary. Just because no one's going to
• 45:02
  pay attention to minimum weights. Even when they
• 45:07
  are undisputed, nobody pays attention. I'm good.
• 45:15
  Collazo did Collazo things, as you put it. Arnold
• 45:19
  Barbosa beats Kenneth Sims by decision. Sims
• 45:26
  didn't look... He started off okay, but he did
• 45:30
  not finish very well. And, yeah. Rocha came into
• 45:38
  the ring to confront. quote -unquote barbosa
• 45:43
  so i don't know i honestly those two deserve
• 45:48
  each other yeah this card overall like other
• 45:52
  than gabby was kind of disappointing yeah it
• 45:56
  was so let's get to something that wasn't disappointing
• 46:00
  sunday march 15th taken promotions in yokohama
• 46:05
  japan What do you got, Shanada? What were some
• 46:11
  things that maybe weren't on the, wasn't on the
• 46:15
  televised portion? I think the televised portion
• 46:17
  started at Matsumoto Takada. Yeah, so it was
• 46:23
  only the first fight wasn't on the televised.
• 46:26
  It was a really good fight. It was just four
• 46:29
  rounds, ended in a split draw, which, like, it
• 46:34
  was really close. Split draw was not upsetting.
• 46:38
  Neither of them really stood out to me, though.
• 46:42
  Like, I didn't find a new favorite. So, that
• 46:46
  first fight was fun, but nothing special. Basic
• 46:50
  Japanese four -round war. They just come out
• 46:53
  swinging. Clobber session? Yeah. Hmm. How did
• 47:00
  you feel seeing the legend get stopped? Doctor
• 47:07
  stopped it, and he got swept on the cards, I
• 47:11
  think. Knockout CPFreshmart versus Iwata. You're
• 47:15
  skipping the Matsumoto Takada? Because Takada
• 47:21
  comes out to Uptown Funk, which is a great walkout
• 47:25
  song. Fucking love it. Yeah. So I knew he was
• 47:29
  going to lose, but I had to cheer for him. But...
• 47:34
  Matsumoto's looking good. Like, I wouldn't mind
• 47:37
  seeing him and Kalazo after Kalazo cleans up
• 47:40
  the Filipinos. I like Matsumoto. He's the WBA
• 47:47
  regular, I think. So he is mandatory -ish. Yeah,
• 47:52
  he's something. He also has fun t -shirts. I
• 47:57
  was an adult and didn't buy my 11th t -shirt,
• 48:00
  but... They are fun. I would have gotten one.
• 48:05
  Doesn't matter how many I have. Yeah. But yeah,
• 48:11
  no. Seeing CP Freshmark stopped was... I mean,
• 48:18
  I kind of expected it. Iwata's for real. But
• 48:21
  I was really cheering for CP Freshmark. They
• 48:27
  don't use his real name at all here. And, like,
• 48:30
  you can't yell out Fresh Mart. That's just...
• 48:32
  People did. But... So I was attempting his actual
• 48:38
  last name. Neomto? I think... Yeah, I think he
• 48:41
  heard me once. In between rounds. He looked at
• 48:46
  me anyway. Did he? But no. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 48:49
  Cool. I wasn't very far back. Actually, I was
• 48:52
  too close. I wasn't high enough in the stands.
• 48:55
  The ropes were in the way. Oh, yeah, I know what
• 48:58
  you're talking about. Yeah, like, I was in the
• 49:02
  section I wanted, but I was the third row of
• 49:06
  raised seating. And I'd prefer to be about the
• 49:10
  tenth row. A little bit of a downward angle?
• 49:14
  Yeah, well, especially with these small guys,
• 49:16
  so you can see over the ropes. So Iwata has the
• 49:25
  WBC 108. I don't know who his contemporaries
• 49:30
  are. 108. I'm so bad at weight classes. Light
• 49:37
  flyweight. Rene Santiago has two belts. He's
• 49:42
  got the WBA and the WBO. And then... The Nongsak
• 49:49
  Simsri has the IBF. Okay. Simsri has a fight
• 49:53
  coming up. I don't remember talking about him.
• 49:59
  We've devolved into the degeneratist of degenerates
• 50:05
  drip. You weren't here to keep us casual. I like
• 50:11
  the little guys. Oh, yeah. But for Iwata, it's
• 50:17
  got to be one of those two. A unification with
• 50:18
  Santiago would be awesome. Yeah, definitely.
• 50:21
  And Santiago fights in Japan fairly frequently.
• 50:24
  He comes here a lot. Who is this? BoxRec has
• 50:28
  somebody else at number one. Sergio Mendoza.
• 50:36
  Mendoza. I need a pitcher. Sergio? Yes. You Hispanic
• 50:41
  -ed on me. I wasn't sure. Alfonso. Oh, I've seen
• 50:47
  him. He's fighting Sims 3 next. Oh, okay. Cool.
• 50:52
  And Korakuen. When is it? April. And Koh Rukun.
• 50:57
  Are you going to go get another t -shirt? Might
• 51:00
  have to buy a ticket. They won't have t -shirts
• 51:05
  because neither of them are Japanese. Well. Because
• 51:12
  I wanted to buy. I've wanted to for a long time.
• 51:15
  I even sent him messages on Instagram asking
• 51:18
  how. I've wanted an Ola Squaga t -shirt. He's
• 51:23
  got the A. with the tiara as the O over top of
• 51:26
  it. Very cool. They're super cute. They're super
• 51:30
  cute t -shirts, and I want one. I want Baby Blue
• 51:34
  on a black t -shirt, and he has them. His team
• 51:37
  wears them, but he doesn't sell them. Butthead.
• 51:42
  Yeah. Moving up. Speaking of Olaskwaga, Stoppagen
• 51:49
  9 over Jukia Imura. this might be beat down of
• 51:54
  the year so far i was gonna say did you watch
• 51:56
  it like that was just a fucking beating all the
• 52:01
  squaga does all the squaga things imura is tough
• 52:05
  as nails like i was hoping his corner would stop
• 52:09
  it sooner somebody should have But it was super
• 52:15
  cute. There was this tiny little Japanese voice.
• 52:18
  Like I bet you the kid was like eight. And he
• 52:21
  just kept yelling Ola Squaga over and over. Because
• 52:25
  Amura had a ton of fans. He's from Tokyo. And
• 52:28
  Yokohama is not very far. So they had like chants
• 52:33
  going for Jukia. And this tiny little voice would
• 52:37
  cut through in between. And be like Ola Squaga!
• 52:42
  It was so cute. Very cool. Yeah. Little Japanese
• 52:46
  boy is a fan of Ola Squago. Ola Squago fights
• 52:51
  here a lot. He's got quite a few fans now, actually.
• 52:54
  That wasn't the only voice, but it was the cutest
• 52:57
  voice. Yeah, he does the same type of shit with
• 53:03
  his hair and his outfits and stuff. The same
• 53:06
  type of stuff the Japanese do. Yeah, yeah. His
• 53:09
  hair was disappointing this time. It was like
• 53:12
  a... off -colored, greeny -yellow. Weird. Yeah.
• 53:19
  But yeah, Ola Squaga looked dominant. He gets
• 53:26
  hit, but I wonder a little bit if he gets hit
• 53:29
  because he knows he can take the punches from
• 53:32
  these guys. I usually give people the benefit
• 53:36
  of the doubt and assume that that is the case.
• 53:39
  Boots, for example, gets hit a lot. Yeah. I imagine
• 53:44
  he's a very intelligent fighter. Like when he
• 53:46
  fought Royman Villa, who is like a club level
• 53:50
  guy with world level power. He did not let Villa
• 53:55
  touch him. So I think Ola Sklaga is just not
• 53:58
  concerned. Yeah, like I think Ola Sklaga really
• 54:01
  chases the knockouts. And if you're chasing knockouts,
• 54:04
  you're going to get hit. Yeah, that too. Speaking
• 54:08
  of getting hit. Nonita Donair stopped in eight
• 54:14
  by Riku Masuda. This one was kind of sad. Have
• 54:20
  we seen the end of Donair? I mean, we should
• 54:24
  have. This should be the end, right? I think
• 54:27
  so. Like, so I know not many people know Masuda,
• 54:31
  but Masuda's got power. Like, and he was really
• 54:37
  nervous at the beginning of the fight. Just like
• 54:41
  Seiya was. And he got hit once. Masuda got rocked
• 54:46
  early. But then Masuda figured out the timing
• 54:49
  and Donair's old and slower than he used to be.
• 54:52
  And then Masuda just started piecing him up.
• 54:55
  Like, it was bad. And Donair was hurt. His team
• 55:00
  tried to stop it at the very end of the 7th.
• 55:05
  Like, they were waving the... at the ref to stop
• 55:09
  it but there was only like three seconds left
• 55:11
  so when he no need to walk back to the corner
• 55:14
  he must have talked him into letting him go back
• 55:16
  out man i've seen enough of donair getting hit
• 55:21
  he's he's bright he's a good analyst like he
• 55:25
  and he's eloquent i think he would be good on
• 55:29
  comms like bro he is good on comms he does calm
• 55:32
  sometimes he's in his mid 40s it's It's time,
• 55:38
  man. It's been time. Like, you don't need to
• 55:41
  be getting... Donair has his own theme song he
• 55:45
  walks out to. I don't know if you watched The
• 55:48
  Walkout. No, I didn't. That song fucking slaps.
• 55:52
  I don't care what anyone says. Yeah, anyone who
• 55:55
  hasn't heard the song should go find it. Donito
• 55:58
  has his own song. Who else? Roy Jones obviously
• 56:02
  had a whole album. Yeah, he did. Joe Joyce. had
• 56:06
  his own intro music. The song must be up on...
• 56:12
  It's gotta be somewhere, for sure. Yeah, it's
• 56:17
  on YouTube. It's called Filipino Flash Nonito
• 56:21
  Donair Theme Song by Respetados of Brown. Whoever
• 56:28
  they are. But I think the song slaps. Like...
• 56:32
  And Nonito's... outfit was fucking awesome. The
• 56:38
  flames? I love the flames. That's like throwback
• 56:42
  Filipino style. Yeah. Yeah. Masuda looked pretty
• 56:49
  good, but Donair shouldn't be getting beat by
• 56:52
  people like Masuda. Yeah, if he was still himself.
• 56:59
  Yeah, like 10 years ago, Donair fucking stomps
• 57:03
  this guy. Overall, how would you rate the event?
• 57:08
  I thought this was a great card. The fights were
• 57:10
  all fun. It was in a... They called it a stadium,
• 57:17
  but it's more like a gymnasium in Yokohama. Nice
• 57:22
  venue, and they actually had food and drinks,
• 57:24
  which is always a plus. Nice. Yeah. Anything
• 57:29
  more for Yokohama? No, I don't think so. All
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  what? Upcoming shit. I have it written. Wednesday,
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  March 25th. Yvonne Michelle is putting on a card.
• 1:01:06
  Alexis Barrier is a name that I recognized on
• 1:01:12
  there. So, that's fine. He's fighting Robert
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  Sims. Like, who really gives a shit? Saturday,
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  March 28th. Queensberry at the Co -op Live in
• 1:01:25
  Manchester. Woof, woof. Let's go from the bottom
• 1:01:29
  up. Let me see if there's anything. Liam Davies
• 1:01:33
  versus Zach Miller. I recognize those names.
• 1:01:36
  Willie Hutchinson versus Ezra Taylor. And the
• 1:01:40
  headline, Moses Itauma versus Jermaine Franklin.
• 1:01:44
  How quickly does Itauma get... Franklin out of
• 1:01:49
  there. Ah, dude, it's going to be quick. Faster
• 1:01:52
  than Dillian White? I don't think so. I give
• 1:01:56
  it... I give it no more than three rounds. No
• 1:02:00
  more than three? Yeah. Franklin's pretty tough.
• 1:02:07
  And he's also crafty. I don't know. I think he'll
• 1:02:10
  be able to survive quite a bit of ways. Maybe
• 1:02:14
  I'm not giving enough credit, but... I don't
• 1:02:16
  know. I like Atomaw a lot, so... I'm going to
• 1:02:18
  stick with three. I'll say no more than three.
• 1:02:20
  That would be a statement. That would be a big
• 1:02:24
  statement. Yeah, Atama is definitely... He's
• 1:02:30
  like the guy of the next generation of heavyweights.
• 1:02:34
  He is the guy already. He's establishing himself
• 1:02:37
  as that. And he's... I don't necessarily know
• 1:02:42
  if he... If it goes longer rounds, is that to
• 1:02:49
  Atalma's detriment? That he didn't spark him
• 1:02:55
  out faster? At some point, Atalma needs to get
• 1:03:00
  rounds. Exactly. That's what I'm thinking. He
• 1:03:04
  needs to get rounds with someone. This is not
• 1:03:07
  a bad guy to get rounds with. Fuck it, I saw...
• 1:03:14
  That one article, like, last week, they kept,
• 1:03:17
  like, asking Yusuke about, like, him fighting
• 1:03:18
  Atamo, and he was like, no, because he's too
• 1:03:22
  young, I would break him. Honestly, very fair.
• 1:03:25
  Like, that's very fair. Like, he would ruin that
• 1:03:26
  kid's career. It's like, there's no point to
• 1:03:28
  him to fight Yusuke by any means. I don't think
• 1:03:32
  he'd ruin his career, but, I mean... Maybe not
• 1:03:35
  his career, but I feel like his spirits, maybe.
• 1:03:38
  Maybe, yeah. Like, that would just be, like,
• 1:03:41
  a painful beating to watch. Mayweather, Canelo.
• 1:03:45
  That's what it makes me think of. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:03:49
  Snipe him while he's young. I'm trying to look
• 1:03:53
  up something real quick. Fuck, dude. Who's Fabio
• 1:04:01
  Wardley fighting again? Is that... Daniel Dubois.
• 1:04:04
  Dubois, Dubois. Yeah, it was Dubois. See, I would
• 1:04:09
  have said maybe even like... Wardley versus Atoma
• 1:04:12
  would have been a real good test. Oh, that's
• 1:04:16
  the... That's too dangerous. That's the Super
• 1:04:19
  Bowl. They're going to build to that. They're
• 1:04:21
  going to make the shit out of that. I think that's
• 1:04:23
  going to be a good fight, though. That will go
• 1:04:25
  gangbusters, for sure. Atoma, Wardley. If they
• 1:04:28
  keep going at the rate that they are, because
• 1:04:31
  just non -stop stoppages. Well, so I guess the
• 1:04:35
  other side of the coin of that, right, is maybe
• 1:04:38
  I'm looking too far ahead, but like... Wardley
• 1:04:42
  versus Dubois, what do we think? I think Wardley,
• 1:04:49
  I've bet against Wardley enough times that I'm
• 1:04:53
  not doing it anymore. I genuinely think Dubois
• 1:04:58
  is going to have a good opening stretch until
• 1:05:01
  Wardley figures it out and sends him to the canvas.
• 1:05:08
  Until the Wardley slot machine hits sevens again.
• 1:05:11
  Like, every fucking time. He will hit triple
• 1:05:15
  sevens. He always does. Yeah. This might be a
• 1:05:19
  hot take, but I feel like Dubois is kind of sloppy.
• 1:05:21
  Like, he's pretty sloppy, I feel like. And that's
• 1:05:26
  where Wardley's going to catch him. His play
• 1:05:31
  with AJ, even though he sparked AJ, like... He
• 1:05:35
  just went in there like a bull in a china shop,
• 1:05:37
  right? Just went in there swinging for the fences.
• 1:05:39
  Yeah. And maybe someone like Wardley would actually
• 1:05:44
  catch Dubois coming in like that, like just meeting
• 1:05:46
  fire with fire in a way. Yeah. Just meet in the
• 1:05:50
  middle and throw punches. I don't know. I've
• 1:05:53
  been a Dubois hater for as long as I can remember.
• 1:05:56
  And I just feel like he was hyped up so much.
• 1:06:04
  like in his beginning of his career what he quit
• 1:06:08
  against what was it Joyce right with the eye
• 1:06:11
  thing which was fair I give him that like you
• 1:06:12
  got your elbow broken take a knee that's that's
• 1:06:14
  fair right no denying that one but he was getting
• 1:06:18
  the shit behind with that one and then who else
• 1:06:21
  made him Usyk made him quit off a jab and then
• 1:06:25
  all the build -up before the Usyk 2 fight where
• 1:06:30
  His team was just talking so much shit. It's
• 1:06:33
  like, dude, like, your guy quit off a jab. Let's
• 1:06:36
  be real. And I just feel like the whole Dubois
• 1:06:40
  thing is like a failed Frank Warner experiment.
• 1:06:42
  Like, just try to build up so much hype. He gets
• 1:06:44
  the hype, gets slimed. Now I gotta build him
• 1:06:47
  back up again. And let's be honest, like, if
• 1:06:50
  Wordly slimes out Dubois again, then what? Do
• 1:06:54
  you build him back up one more time? Nah, Dubois
• 1:06:57
  is done if he gets KO'd. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:07:00
  Like, I get he's young. He is young. I get that.
• 1:07:02
  But, like, how good really is he? Let's be honest.
• 1:07:06
  How good really is Dubois? I get it. He caught
• 1:07:10
  AJ and beat him. Respect to that. Who else can
• 1:07:15
  he beat? He was giving Usyk good work before
• 1:07:17
  the jab. Right. Yeah, we'll give him that, too.
• 1:07:22
  But quit off a jab. That part to me is insane.
• 1:07:27
  I think the... the low blow, like the controversy
• 1:07:31
  with that, I think that kind of messed with his
• 1:07:33
  head and it took him out of the fight. So he,
• 1:07:36
  I don't think that like the jab hurt him or like,
• 1:07:40
  or he mentally checked out. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
• 1:07:46
  He's not a very mentally strong boxer. He had
• 1:07:50
  like, had he struggled with Gerald Miller? Yeah.
• 1:07:55
  Oh my God. Yeah. I remember that. I forgot what
• 1:07:57
  that fight too. I tried to forget. And then,
• 1:08:00
  like, maybe even, like, Dubois versus Caballel
• 1:08:02
  would be a good fight, but Caballel, I think,
• 1:08:04
  is just, he needs to get his title shot. Yeah,
• 1:08:08
  Caballel's been waiting too long. He's done his
• 1:08:10
  waiting. Yeah. 12 years of it in Azkaban prison.
• 1:08:15
  That was, that was, that was my whole spiel.
• 1:08:18
  I think, I'm sure, I'm going to root for Wardley,
• 1:08:23
  that he gets past Dubois, and then, obviously,
• 1:08:25
  I think Otomo. smokes Franklin at some point.
• 1:08:28
  That blockbuster fight of Wardley and Atauma
• 1:08:32
  will be amazing to watch. Imagine if Wardley
• 1:08:35
  hits triple sevens against Atauma. Oh my goodness.
• 1:08:39
  Scenes. Absolute cinema. Because I don't think
• 1:08:44
  Atauma's been hit hard at all. Nobody's caught
• 1:08:48
  him. Nope, he hasn't been tested. Not at all.
• 1:08:53
  That's why I'm hoping that Franklin Give some
• 1:08:56
  good work. I think it'll go into the mids, the
• 1:09:00
  mid rounds, like the middle four. Six to eight?
• 1:09:05
  Yeah, somewhere in that area. Let's roll on.
• 1:09:10
  Probox at Thunder Studios in California. The
• 1:09:16
  only two fights on here really worth pointing
• 1:09:19
  out, Brian Acosta versus Ronnie Rios and Rene
• 1:09:21
  Taez versus Malik Montgomery. I'm not familiar
• 1:09:28
  with him. I have no idea. Or whatever that's
• 1:09:32
  worth. He's lost his last two fights. But that
• 1:09:38
  might just make him hungry. That's prime setup
• 1:09:41
  for Probox. It's Probox. Probox good. Enjoy it.
• 1:09:50
  The undercard of the PBC on Prime event was announced.
• 1:09:55
  Let me see if I can find the post. Because it's
• 1:09:59
  not very good. Oh, my God. PBC Saban fights?
• 1:10:01
  I forgot about them. Yeah. Holy shit. Their quarterly
• 1:10:06
  pay -per -view? Yeah, fuck. What do they even
• 1:10:09
  have? A few people. They have Roach, right? Lamont
• 1:10:17
  Roach, I think, is with Probox. Really? Yeah.
• 1:10:22
  Wow. Here it is. Okay, so the undercard is...
• 1:10:27
  That's... Very unfortunate. Yeah, I don't know
• 1:10:44
  who any of those are. The... Getting to, I don't
• 1:10:50
  know who these people are, gets better. Gergen
• 1:10:52
  Hovenissian versus Cesar Navarro. Isn't that
• 1:10:56
  fun? We know who Hovenissian is. Do we? Yeah.
• 1:11:01
  I think you're thinking of a different Hovenissian.
• 1:11:04
  There's more than one Hovenissian? Yes. Oh, then
• 1:11:08
  yes. You're thinking of Crazy A. He fights at
• 1:11:11
  the lower weight classes. Okay. Yoendly Hernandez
• 1:11:16
  versus Terrell Gachet. Yoendly is looking like
• 1:11:20
  a decent middleweight guy coming up. And, like,
• 1:11:24
  Lord knows that middleweight needs more names.
• 1:11:27
  So, that's fun. And the main event, Sebastian
• 1:11:32
  Fundora defending his WBC super welterweight
• 1:11:37
  title against Keith. One time. Ah, God. I mean,
• 1:11:45
  Fandora's just going to beat up an old man, right?
• 1:11:48
  Yeah, dude. What are we doing here? Yeah. I have
• 1:11:53
  the same question, Drip. I have the same question.
• 1:11:55
  The state of boxing, ladies and gentlemen. The
• 1:11:57
  state of boxing. I mean, given what the recent
• 1:12:02
  signings to Top Rank and signing to DAZN, Golden
• 1:12:06
  Boy re -signing to DAZN, Queensbury and Mattrum
• 1:12:10
  are on long -term deals. Boxing's not in a bad
• 1:12:14
  state. it's pbc's in a bad state yeah you know
• 1:12:18
  what you're right let me take let me retract
• 1:12:19
  that the state of pbc is it's fucking dire um
• 1:12:23
  yeah this like quarterly pay -per -view shit
• 1:12:26
  needs to stop um there there should be for what
• 1:12:31
  pbc started out as like in 2015 2016 time frame
• 1:12:35
  it was there was developmental series contender
• 1:12:40
  series and then like the big big name pay -per
• 1:12:44
  -views But now, you're going to charge me like
• 1:12:48
  $80 for this? Get the fuck out of here, man.
• 1:12:53
  Nah, dude. They need investors. They need investors
• 1:12:56
  and they need fighters. I said in Discord that
• 1:13:02
  PBC, with Top Rank and Golden Boy going back,
• 1:13:07
  that PBC should be looking at DAZN as a new home.
• 1:13:11
  And they should be signing those partnership
• 1:13:13
  deals with the other promoters. Long before Sufo
• 1:13:20
  comes through and takes all PBC's fighters. Yeah,
• 1:13:23
  you gotta do something with them. I don't know,
• 1:13:31
  do you guys have anything more on this fight?
• 1:13:33
  This card's pretty fucking abysmal. Yeah, that's
• 1:13:36
  not worth my time to even watch it. I mean, I'll
• 1:13:40
  watch Pandora, but... Right. Even that, I'm like,
• 1:13:46
  tell you what, if I'm not doing anything, I'll
• 1:13:49
  throw it on, but I probably won't make time for
• 1:13:51
  it if it's like the morning out and about. Yeah,
• 1:13:56
  that's fair. So, as we transition out of the
• 1:14:03
  previews, Drip, you've got a lot to say. Let
• 1:14:10
  her rip. There's a lot of questions and comments,
• 1:14:12
  but, I mean, let's start with Zufa. What do you
• 1:14:14
  guys think about it? I watched the Wong card,
• 1:14:16
  I think it was last week, two weeks ago. I didn't
• 1:14:19
  think it was terrible by any means, but when
• 1:14:22
  they first announced Zufa becoming a thing, I
• 1:14:25
  thought it would just be that, like, up -and
• 1:14:27
  -comers, low -level guys to kind of, like, start
• 1:14:29
  off at, get their names out there, put on some
• 1:14:32
  fights. And then suddenly we're signing Conor
• 1:14:35
  Benn for $15 million, and... Jaya Pataya gets
• 1:14:40
  a Zufa belt with his IBF controversy. And I'm
• 1:14:43
  just like, what are we doing? What's the actual
• 1:14:47
  end goal here? I thought, again, it was just
• 1:14:50
  going to be up -and -comers, low -level pros
• 1:14:53
  to kind of get in there and build their names
• 1:14:55
  up and maybe leave after their contract or so
• 1:14:58
  on and so forth until Zufa can afford these high
• 1:15:01
  -level names. But right now, it's just all over
• 1:15:03
  the place. It's like a spider web. Zufa has...
• 1:15:07
  no real, like, business plan right now, I don't
• 1:15:11
  think. Like, oh, we're going back to the original
• 1:15:15
  weight classes, unless we can sign someone famous
• 1:15:18
  in a different weight class. Oh, we're not working
• 1:15:21
  with anybody, it's only gonna be the Zufa belts.
• 1:15:23
  Well, except for these guys that want the other
• 1:15:26
  belts and already have them, I guess they can
• 1:15:28
  keep them. Yeah, I guess make an exception. Well,
• 1:15:30
  now it's like, okay, you do it for him, you gotta
• 1:15:33
  do it for everybody. And at that point, you're...
• 1:15:35
  You're already breaking your business model.
• 1:15:37
  Yeah, you're doing the same exact thing that
• 1:15:39
  you were bitching about that boxing was broken.
• 1:15:42
  Now look at us. You're bitching about the titles
• 1:15:46
  that are being too many titles and then you're
• 1:15:48
  adding one to it. You're adding a belt. You're
• 1:15:50
  adding a belt. What the fuck? I've been seeing
• 1:15:53
  this post go around on Instagram. It said, which
• 1:15:59
  belt do you think is most prestigious in the
• 1:16:02
  six belt era? Six. Six. No. It's disgusting.
• 1:16:09
  Absolutely abysmal. So we already have... It's
• 1:16:12
  already bad enough with the four. Alright? They're
• 1:16:14
  fucking shady organizations. But adding Zufa
• 1:16:18
  and I continue to have this discussion. It keeps
• 1:16:23
  coming up. Is The Ring a title? Ring Magazine?
• 1:16:28
  No. Is that a title? No. I wouldn't say this
• 1:16:31
  now. Well, if they're saying six belts, it has
• 1:16:33
  to be the ring is the other one. That is the
• 1:16:35
  other one. That's why I'm asking. Yeah. I would
• 1:16:38
  view it as like a, I don't even know, like a
• 1:16:42
  prestigious award. Not so much a belt. Yeah,
• 1:16:46
  like more of a trophy award type thing. Yeah.
• 1:16:49
  And that's what it's supposed to be. Congrats.
• 1:16:52
  You're number one. Here you go. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:16:55
  Kind of like the Muhammad Ali trophy. It's a
• 1:16:57
  trophy. It's like. uh prestigious award i wouldn't
• 1:17:00
  consider the ring magazine belt as a belt but
• 1:17:03
  if that's what we're aiming towards i mean i
• 1:17:06
  guess but now what yeah we're in a six belt era
• 1:17:08
  like how do you even keep up all this shit be
• 1:17:11
  a fucking filthy degenerate like me uh listening
• 1:17:14
  listening to boxing before dark and boxing b
• 1:17:17
  -sides and that's how you keep up with all that
• 1:17:19
  shit because i do it for you great plugin that
• 1:17:22
  was a great plugin a great layup yeah thank you
• 1:17:24
  that was alley -oop from drip Right on. Yeah,
• 1:17:30
  I don't know. Like, I guess with Zufa also, like,
• 1:17:33
  I know a lot of UFC fighters were, like, speaking
• 1:17:36
  up about, like, why the fuck is Conor Benn getting
• 1:17:38
  $15 million? I'm sure you guys already went over
• 1:17:39
  this in the UFC podcast, but... We're going over
• 1:17:42
  it everywhere. Keep slapping him with it. It's
• 1:17:46
  like... My thing is, too, like, it's going to
• 1:17:50
  go with the fucking spider web, like a spiral,
• 1:17:51
  but... Okay, Conor Benn. Huge name in England,
• 1:17:55
  right? That's about it. No one knows the fuck
• 1:17:58
  Connor Bennett is in America. No one cares. Yeah,
• 1:18:01
  no one cares either. Maybe this will kind of
• 1:18:04
  get him some publicity in America, some star
• 1:18:06
  power there. But, okay, who does he fight? Who
• 1:18:09
  does Connor Bennett fight for $15 million? Regis
• 1:18:12
  Progray. Yeah. Crazy. Are they going to pay Regis
• 1:18:16
  Progray close to $15 million also? Hell no. Well,
• 1:18:21
  they got to pay him something, right? Actually,
• 1:18:23
  I saw some articles that Eddie Hearn is trying
• 1:18:29
  to prove that Conor Bent isn't getting $15 million
• 1:18:33
  for that one fight. It's going to turn into a
• 1:18:35
  two -fight deal. And that means he didn't have
• 1:18:40
  the opportunity to match it, which breaks contracts
• 1:18:44
  or some legal bullshit. So Eddie Hearn's trying
• 1:18:47
  to take him back to court, I think. Connor to
• 1:18:51
  court or Dana to court? Both. Both. Interesting.
• 1:18:55
  I mean, I know Dana and Eddie Hearn are having
• 1:18:59
  a war of the words, but I don't know. Even then,
• 1:19:03
  so, like, let's say it's a two -fight deal, so
• 1:19:05
  you're still going to pay Connor or Ben, what,
• 1:19:07
  seven and a half million to fight Regis Progray?
• 1:19:10
  Yeah, that's ridiculous. On top of what they
• 1:19:13
  have to pay Regis Progray, too, which I'm assuming
• 1:19:15
  is going to be, like, at least Maybe like, what,
• 1:19:18
  2 million maybe? They gotta give him something,
• 1:19:20
  right? I don't know how true this is, but I had
• 1:19:24
  heard somewhere that it was a 500k. That's insane.
• 1:19:29
  That's absolutely insane. Regis is dumb for taking
• 1:19:32
  that. Sorry, Regis, you ever watch this podcast?
• 1:19:35
  Sorry, but you're an idiot for taking that. I
• 1:19:37
  know you're listening, Regis. It's all good.
• 1:19:40
  I hope you're not getting off the 500k and accepting
• 1:19:42
  it while Connor Ben is getting 7 .5 million,
• 1:19:45
  supposedly. That's insane, brother. It's fucking
• 1:19:49
  crazy. That whole Connor Ben signing is just
• 1:19:52
  to piss off Eddie Hearn. No other reason for
• 1:19:55
  it. 100%. That's why Dana, he didn't take Tom
• 1:19:58
  Aspinall, but he signed him to his talent agency
• 1:20:00
  or whatever. He was on the Ariel Helwani. I'm
• 1:20:06
  sorry. Eddie Hearn went on Ariel's podcast and
• 1:20:08
  he was ripping into Zufa and Dana and how the
• 1:20:12
  business model is not sustainable and everything.
• 1:20:14
  A lot of valid points, honestly. But after, like,
• 1:20:20
  after Conor Ben's fights are done, does he re
• 1:20:23
  -sign with Zufa? Does he go, where else does
• 1:20:25
  he go? Like, what happens then? Because that's,
• 1:20:26
  I mean, Conor's going to be what? Zufa's the
• 1:20:28
  biggest star, right? Do they lose him? Oh, yeah,
• 1:20:32
  you just sink 15 mil for two fights, and then
• 1:20:34
  he's gone? Yeah, like, then, well, that's your
• 1:20:38
  biggest star, because rumor is that they also
• 1:20:41
  reached out to AJ, too. They wanted to sign AJ,
• 1:20:44
  but he obviously shut it down, because he's...
• 1:20:46
  They reached out to everyone. Yeah. They tried
• 1:20:49
  Usyk? Yeah, that was never going to happen. Imagine
• 1:20:52
  the insane amount of money they have to pay AJ
• 1:20:54
  or Usyk to even come over. It would be abysmal.
• 1:20:59
  Right. Like, you show AJ 15 mil for a two -fight
• 1:21:05
  contract, and then he's going to say, I haven't
• 1:21:08
  made 7 .5 in one fight in, like, a decade or
• 1:21:13
  more. You are fucking out of your mind if you
• 1:21:16
  think I'm going to take that. I'm just wondering
• 1:21:20
  if, like, these signings, like, Jabba, Taya,
• 1:21:25
  Connor, Ben, I don't know if they have anyone
• 1:21:26
  else bigger than those two, right? That's, like,
• 1:21:28
  their main stars right now. No, that's their
• 1:21:30
  two. Those are the biggest ones they got. So,
• 1:21:32
  like, let's say, like, I wonder if they signed
• 1:21:36
  those two to get, like, traction into Zufa, and
• 1:21:39
  then they'll have more eyes on it now. It's kind
• 1:21:41
  of like a way to, like, bring people in. Like,
• 1:21:42
  hey, look at these two big stars we have. You
• 1:21:44
  know, I don't think that... Boxing fans are the
• 1:21:49
  target demographic for Zufa. Zufa is their target
• 1:21:56
  audience is people who like the UFC structure.
• 1:22:02
  That's it. One belt divisions. Yeah. It's there.
• 1:22:08
  Zufa is going to be operating at a loss for a
• 1:22:13
  while. because they're going to have to pay fighters
• 1:22:18
  to come over, and it's going to cost them more
• 1:22:22
  than it would for the no -name Russians and Mexicans
• 1:22:26
  that they have on the prelims. But right now,
• 1:22:31
  to their benefit, they don't have to pay site
• 1:22:33
  fees. The Apex is their venue, and it's going
• 1:22:37
  to be their venue for the foreseeable future.
• 1:22:40
  And it's a shit venue. It sucks. It's so small.
• 1:22:44
  It's dead in there. But... It is small. While
• 1:22:47
  they're building up, it's a free space to use.
• 1:22:51
  I will say, the one thing I like about the Apex
• 1:22:54
  is because it's so small and it's kind of quiet,
• 1:22:57
  you can hear all the punches. So that's the one
• 1:22:59
  thing I do like about the Apex. Yeah, but there's
• 1:23:01
  no crowd noise. Like, it's not... It's just a
• 1:23:05
  fighter's family that you can hear. Yeah, it's
• 1:23:07
  just like a garage with a boxing ring in it.
• 1:23:13
  The... The dude that fought Opitaya, Brandon
• 1:23:16
  Glanton, he was saying on an IG Live or something,
• 1:23:21
  he was saying that Zufa has been treating him
• 1:23:26
  better than any other promoter ever has. He has
• 1:23:30
  access... All the stuff that I'm about to list
• 1:23:32
  out are free. Meals, training facilities, and
• 1:23:36
  I think room and board is not... fully comped
• 1:23:43
  but there is assistance for it if you stay in
• 1:23:47
  the vegas area so for a guy like glanton or mark
• 1:23:52
  maxio that honestly this is a really good career
• 1:23:57
  move for guys like that they're gonna have a
• 1:24:00
  steady schedule of fights the pay is not gonna
• 1:24:02
  be as good as you're gonna get elsewhere but
• 1:24:04
  you're never gonna wonder when is my next fight
• 1:24:07
  because it's gonna be in like six months That
• 1:24:13
  makes sense, yeah. And Brandon Glanton isn't
• 1:24:16
  going to win any of the titles anyways. No, he's
• 1:24:19
  not. This is the perfect spot for him to be at.
• 1:24:25
  He's not going to beat Opitaya. He's not going
• 1:24:27
  to beat Zerdo. He's not going to beat Benavidez.
• 1:24:32
  Yeah, now he's just making steady income on Zufa.
• 1:24:36
  It's funny to me because before Zufa and all
• 1:24:39
  these big name signings like Ben, whatever. Dana
• 1:24:42
  White was like, boxers make too much money. You
• 1:24:45
  can't run a business like that. It's crazy. And
• 1:24:48
  then he fucking switches it. Now Dana's like,
• 1:24:50
  why is it a bad thing when guys make more money?
• 1:24:52
  Well, then which is it, Dana White? Do you want
• 1:24:53
  to not pay too much? Or do you want to pay him
• 1:24:56
  more? Dana White is a smarmy fucking cocksucker.
• 1:25:00
  I cannot stand that piece of shit. If he has
• 1:25:03
  a heart attack tomorrow, I will pretend to call
• 1:25:07
  911 just to make sure that no one else does.
• 1:25:11
  I mean, he built up UFC from like ground up,
• 1:25:14
  like 20 plus years. I get that. He did phenomenal
• 1:25:16
  with it, but I just don't see him doing the same
• 1:25:20
  thing in boxing. Honestly, I think it's kind
• 1:25:21
  of like you said, it's going to be good for those
• 1:25:23
  guys who will like really never touch gold, but
• 1:25:26
  they'll still make good money off of fighting
• 1:25:27
  career. Right. They'll have steady work. They'll
• 1:25:30
  have access to a gym, to, to a chef and all that
• 1:25:34
  type of stuff. All the accoutrement that goes
• 1:25:38
  into being a fighter. that most people don't
• 1:25:42
  really think about. Who do you think their next
• 1:25:46
  signing would be? I saw rumors of Andy Ruiz.
• 1:25:52
  Actually, you know what? That makes a whole lot
• 1:25:55
  of sense. I could see Ruiz definitely going to
• 1:25:57
  Zufa. They tried to court Gerald Miller, but
• 1:26:00
  he signed with Mattroom. I don't know if it's
• 1:26:04
  been announced yet, but Gerald Miller has pretty
• 1:26:07
  much confirmed it. I think he went on a podcast
• 1:26:10
  where he said they weren't offering him as much
• 1:26:11
  as Mattroom was. Yeah, of course they're not.
• 1:26:15
  Because Miller, the hairpiece situation, that
• 1:26:19
  was the most perfect thing that could have ever
• 1:26:22
  happened for Gerald Miller's career. The best
• 1:26:24
  thing for his career. Yeah, I mean, I guess to
• 1:26:29
  sum it up, I like the Zufa cards I've watched
• 1:26:33
  so far, but I just don't see where this business
• 1:26:35
  model is going. What's the end goal here? Because
• 1:26:38
  first it was, you know, Fox is making too much
• 1:26:40
  money. Now what's wrong with paying them more?
• 1:26:43
  And now you're trying to poach these high -level
• 1:26:45
  stars from, like, their contracts and everything,
• 1:26:48
  but they're not going to come over. Usyk's not
• 1:26:50
  coming over. AJ's not coming over. Fuck, you
• 1:26:53
  might get Deontay Wilder. Maybe you might get
• 1:26:55
  Deontay Wilder. At this point of his career,
• 1:26:57
  yes. Yeah. But is that what Zufa's going to be?
• 1:27:01
  It's going to be low -level pros and washed -up
• 1:27:04
  stars? Retirement League and Development League?
• 1:27:08
  I mean, if that's what they want to do, then
• 1:27:10
  so be it. But I just... I don't know. The whole
• 1:27:13
  model to me just doesn't make sense. I know that
• 1:27:16
  Robert Garcia does... He doesn't mind Zufa. Because
• 1:27:24
  all of his... All the kids at his gym... boxing
• 1:27:28
  academy the rgba all of his kids like they're
• 1:27:32
  he's getting calls for them to get work so he's
• 1:27:36
  like fuck yeah i want to get my kids paid that's
• 1:27:39
  fair i mean listen hopefully it blossoms to something
• 1:27:45
  great otherwise i hope it fucking dies pro pro
• 1:27:50
  box is in the same like kind of niche that zufa
• 1:27:54
  is right now and pro box does a better And when
• 1:27:57
  their guys get too good for pro box, they're
• 1:28:00
  like, go spread your wings. Like we're not going
• 1:28:04
  to keep you caged here. Yeah. Yeah. That I, that
• 1:28:10
  is something I absolutely appreciate about pro
• 1:28:14
  box, like Lamont Roach, Angelo, Leo, Leo, Lester
• 1:28:18
  Martinez. Martinez is getting on the verge. He's
• 1:28:21
  going to be leaving. Yeah. And, like, career
• 1:28:27
  rehab? Like, what I don't like, and it's what
• 1:28:33
  we don't know about their contract model. Because
• 1:28:37
  if we're talking about it as a development league,
• 1:28:40
  Zufa, I mean, then cool. If they're on, like,
• 1:28:44
  a four -fight contract, cool. But what happens
• 1:28:47
  at the end of four? Are they automatically renewed?
• 1:28:50
  Like, the way that UFC guys are? I think those
• 1:28:54
  young guys are signing the six -year contracts.
• 1:28:57
  Six years? Well, if they're, like, 18, that is,
• 1:29:02
  like, development time. Sure, that's fair, actually.
• 1:29:05
  Yeah, that makes sense. But if they stay there,
• 1:29:08
  that's the problem. I don't know. Fuck Zufo.
• 1:29:14
  Yeah, there's too many unanswered questions about
• 1:29:16
  it. Also, it's not fun. They don't get to wear
• 1:29:20
  cool clothes. They don't get to, like, Zufa's
• 1:29:24
  anti -fun. The belt's ugly. They have to wear
• 1:29:28
  uniform shorts. I saw one fight they didn't even
• 1:29:33
  have the guy's names. Or, like, you know how
• 1:29:36
  it's, like, black shorts, white shorts? Yeah,
• 1:29:41
  yeah. Yeah, I'm like, this is, this sucks. Everything
• 1:29:45
  about this sucks. I think it's, I think they're,
• 1:29:48
  like, doing the UFC model, right? Where it's
• 1:29:50
  like no sponsorships, nothing on the shorts or
• 1:29:52
  anything. Yeah, but it's boring. Like, I know
• 1:29:55
  you were saying how Dana built up the UFC, but
• 1:29:58
  the UFC was fun when it started. It was. It was.
• 1:30:02
  After he got rid of all the competition, Dana
• 1:30:06
  stripped all the fun from the UFC. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:30:11
  I know, and I'm sure Leo, you guys talked about
• 1:30:13
  the UFC podcast too, that UFC right now itself
• 1:30:16
  is like not in a good place. It's a plateau almost,
• 1:30:19
  right? It's plateauing. It's not getting better.
• 1:30:22
  It's not doing too hot either, though. The last
• 1:30:27
  time I watched UFC was the early 2000s, and they
• 1:30:30
  were still allowed to have fun shorts and stuff.
• 1:30:35
  It sounds so stupid, but I like that the fighters
• 1:30:39
  in boxing can express their personality a little.
• 1:30:44
  Oh, that's fair. I get that. UFC has stripped
• 1:30:46
  the personality from the fighters. They want
• 1:30:49
  you to not even care about the individuals and
• 1:30:52
  just like, oh, it's a UFC fight, I'll watch it.
• 1:30:56
  It's not like they don't want you to be fans
• 1:30:58
  of a certain person. Yeah, I mean, at the end
• 1:31:01
  of the day, they're employees, right? Their whole
• 1:31:03
  motto is like, hey, you're an employee to the
• 1:31:05
  UFC, so it's not like boxing. Yeah, boxing, you're
• 1:31:09
  like a person. Yeah, like... It's promotions,
• 1:31:14
  events, contractors, whatever. Like, I mean,
• 1:31:16
  I guess with the UFC, they are technically 1099s,
• 1:31:19
  if I'm not wrong. Yeah, they are independent
• 1:31:21
  contractors. Yeah, but they're under UFC's, like,
• 1:31:25
  rules, regulations, and shit like that. Whereas
• 1:31:27
  boxing, it's like, hey, you're contractors, but,
• 1:31:29
  you know, do your thing. Yeah, if you can make
• 1:31:32
  money off of your own name, go for it. Yeah.
• 1:31:37
  Yeah, I mean, that's pretty much it. I wanted
• 1:31:39
  to go over that, because I wasn't sure what your
• 1:31:40
  guys' thoughts were on Sufa and, you know, maybe
• 1:31:42
  his future. I don't like it, and I'm kind of
• 1:31:46
  hoping it bombs. I'm hoping they blow all their
• 1:31:51
  money on these big signings and it doesn't work.
• 1:31:54
  I don't know, with Turkey backing it, I don't
• 1:31:57
  think they were going to go broke. Because Turkey,
• 1:31:58
  I think Turkey's like a 60 % owner of TTO. Turkey's
• 1:32:02
  going to get bored. Turkey's going to get bored.
• 1:32:06
  As Josh puts it, it's like he's going to get
• 1:32:09
  tired of playing with his action figures. Yeah.
• 1:32:12
  On to the next sport, right? Yeah. Like, they
• 1:32:15
  do tennis, golf. They have a... Saudi Arabia
• 1:32:19
  now has, like, a fucking soccer league that they
• 1:32:22
  signed Cristiano Ronaldo. Yeah, I didn't see
• 1:32:26
  that. Wait till they discover American football.
• 1:32:30
  We'll see, I guess. Maybe he'll get more. Well,
• 1:32:35
  this has been a fucking good conversation, but
• 1:32:38
  we gotta get it out of here. Yep, let's wrap
• 1:32:40
  it up. So, we're heading into Moses Atalma Weekend.
• 1:32:45
  Parting words. Moses in three. And that's coming
• 1:32:53
  from me. I'm more excited about Fundora. The
• 1:32:58
  card's not as good, but... Yeah, Fundora beat
• 1:33:02
  on Old Man Thurman. It'll be fun to watch, too.
• 1:33:05
  We'll finally be rid of Thurman. Wait, can I
• 1:33:09
  add in one piece real quick before we wrap it
• 1:33:11
  up? Fire away? Fury versus Makhmudov. What an
• 1:33:16
  interesting fight. We know what it's for, obviously.
• 1:33:20
  Yeah, they just picked the guy that looks like
• 1:33:22
  a bad guy in the movie. Fury, the superstar Brit
• 1:33:27
  versus the scary Russian. Yeah, yeah. He looks
• 1:33:30
  like a Neanderthal. He really kind of does. I'm
• 1:33:35
  sure you guys already talked about it in my absence,
• 1:33:37
  but... The Usyk versus the Rico one. Boo. That's
• 1:33:42
  just such a waste of time. Get your money, Usyk,
• 1:33:46
  but this is a stupid fight. He said he's only
• 1:33:49
  got three fight stuff that was like Rico, maybe
• 1:33:53
  Dubois. Wardley Dubois winner. Wardley Dubois
• 1:33:56
  winner. And then Fury 3. Nobody wants Fury 3.
• 1:34:01
  Nobody wants Fury 3. But I guess I think I said
• 1:34:05
  it in the chat earlier. I wonder if Usyk wants
• 1:34:08
  Fury 3 just because he knows he can bully Usyk
• 1:34:10
  into an easy payday. I mean, bully Fury into
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  an easy payday. Like, because he knows Fury can't
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  hurt him. He knows he can beat him pretty comfortably.
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  Yeah. I wonder if he's taking that third fight
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  just to, like, kind of bully him for, like, an
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  easy payday. And Rafa's on set. Honestly, I kind
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  of wish Usyk would have retired after his last
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  fight. That was the perfect place to retire.
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  Yeah, I agree. To me. I agree. I agree. All right.
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  Nothing more for me. I don't want to hold you
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  guys up anymore. Well, I'm going to leave you
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  guys with maybe something to think about. Do
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  Roman paramedics refer to IVs as fours? If only
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  you all could see how far back in your skulls
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  your eyes rolled. Don't worry, Leo. They'll all
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  have the same look on their face. That might
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  be when someone just closed out the podcast.
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  Yeah, done. All right. That might be like the
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  slams laptop moment. That's why I put it at the
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  end. All right. Drip, it's been great having
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  you back. Likewise. That is it for this edition
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  of Boxing Before Dark. My batteries are getting
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  low. And it is getting dark.