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Grammy-winning producer Jermaine Dupri on producing new music for Justin Timberlake/Anthony Hamilton · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: next guest is multi Grammy Award winning producer Jermaine dupri
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Speaker 1: with over four hundred million records soldier Date. Dupri a
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Speaker 1: member of the Songwriters Hall of Fame, is one of
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Speaker 1: the most successful producers in the music industry. He is
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Speaker 1: currently in the studio with Justin timber Lake and my
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Speaker 1: Man Anthony Hamilton's working on their next project. In addition
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Speaker 1: to as many TV ventures, Jermaine was one of the
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Speaker 1: first hip hop DJs to hold a five year residency
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Speaker 1: at the Wind Casino in Las Vegas. That's a bad hotel,
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Speaker 1: those Vegas. We have a lot to talk about, including
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Speaker 1: Jermaine's being a vegan for fifteen years and its partnership
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Speaker 1: with the plant based lifetile platform Debat. Please work with
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Speaker 1: the money making conversation. The founder of Social Death Recordings
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Speaker 1: and Management, Jermaine dupri Yo, Yo, thank you for that.
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Speaker 1: Great hey, Jermaine, here's the sad one. But I left
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Speaker 1: out a lot. I left out a lot. That's that
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Speaker 1: was I might still send it to somebody else I
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Speaker 1: do the next I follow you around. I follow around
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Speaker 1: from a little band, a little a little band, folly around.
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Speaker 1: You deserve it. Man. When I think about the music
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Speaker 1: and impact and people, you've impacted over years and being
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Speaker 1: a corner stone for the Atlanta music just just just
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Speaker 1: just can you surmise what you expected when you got
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Speaker 1: in it and where you're standing right now in your career. Um,
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Speaker 1: I mean I expect a lot that happened. I expected.
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Speaker 1: I really just expected to exists, you know. Um and
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Speaker 1: and that's all I really wanted to do, just exist
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Speaker 1: and be in it. And um just like any other
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Speaker 1: young kid or whatever that you just want to be
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Speaker 1: in it. You want to be um all in it
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Speaker 1: by the way, um and UM. I think one thing
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Speaker 1: led to the next day, like just put me in
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Speaker 1: a position where I saw the front of the line.
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Speaker 1: I saw the front of the line being something that attainable.
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Speaker 1: Right to get the front of the lines is attainable
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Speaker 1: once I got in and I'm like, if you put
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Speaker 1: this much more work into it, you can get to
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Speaker 1: the front of the line, or you can get in
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Speaker 1: the conversation with the people that's in the front of
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Speaker 1: the line. And that's that's that's that's what became my
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Speaker 1: goal once I got in the game. And when you're
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Speaker 1: you're definitely in the game and a leader in the game.
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Speaker 1: When I when I talk about This has been an
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Speaker 1: amazing year for us emotionally, physically, especially with COVID nineteen.
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Speaker 1: Emotionally dealing with COVID nineteen. And then you're in the
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Speaker 1: music business and you see what happened to George Floyd
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Speaker 1: that emotion Where were you add emotionally with that whole aspect?
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Speaker 1: And was that a responsibility to try to put something
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Speaker 1: out there in the music world that can basically say
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Speaker 1: how you feel or how America feels at that point
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Speaker 1: or feeling right now. I think the key word that
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Speaker 1: you use is responsibility. UM. I looked at both the
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Speaker 1: situation as a responsibility from UM, the black community as
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Speaker 1: well as the music community as well as UM every
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Speaker 1: other community this out there. I feel like we as people,
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Speaker 1: we have to take responsibility UM and UM. It struck
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Speaker 1: me in that and and that's the chord that it
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Speaker 1: actually struck. What's what responsibility am I gonna take in this? UM?
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Speaker 1: And it took me a minute to really figure it out,
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Speaker 1: like should I say something? Do I want to be political?
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Speaker 1: Do I want people to even think that I have?
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Speaker 1: I have? I stayed away from that in my career
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Speaker 1: and UM, because because I felt like I wanted you
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Speaker 1: to always believe that I was just in the middle.
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Speaker 1: You know, politics, as you see now, it's got people
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Speaker 1: where people find out who you're voting for and they
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Speaker 1: don't even like you no more. It shouldn't be in
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Speaker 1: that space, but that's where I've always felt the energy.
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Speaker 1: So I always kind of like I kept my comments
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Speaker 1: politically to myself. I've been a voting a person loans,
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Speaker 1: I've been voting as long as I could vote, But
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Speaker 1: I never was open openly about what was going on.
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Speaker 1: And this this put me in a position where I
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Speaker 1: felt like, Um, if I have made it to the
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Speaker 1: front of that line that I was talking about prior,
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Speaker 1: and if I am one of these people that are
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Speaker 1: in the conversation with the people at the front of
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Speaker 1: the line, um, the people that I look up to
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Speaker 1: that's at the front of the line in their past,
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Speaker 1: they have done things that soundtrack a time like this
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Speaker 1: that we was going through. And I looked at myself,
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Speaker 1: and I looked at my other peers, Johntay, Brian Cox, uh,
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Speaker 1: people around me, and I was just like, we we
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Speaker 1: are not acting like people at the front of the line.
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Speaker 1: Were acting like guys that's in the back of the line,
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Speaker 1: still looking for somebody at the front of the line
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Speaker 1: to do something. So, um, I just asked myself, if
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Speaker 1: I'm really do I feel like I'm at the front
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Speaker 1: of the line. If I feel like I'm at the
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Speaker 1: front line, then I gotta do something, do I Does
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Speaker 1: it matter what the outcome of what it is that
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Speaker 1: you do. Know what matters is that you take that
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Speaker 1: step to show that you are at the front of
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Speaker 1: the line. And this is what people on the front
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Speaker 1: line should basically be doing. It's it's amazing that you
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Speaker 1: you speak like that, because it really is about taking
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Speaker 1: a step and this is not about you don't know
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Speaker 1: what the results of that step may be, Jermaine, you know,
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Speaker 1: but when you wake up, you want to know I
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Speaker 1: did And that's the key where I did. I did
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Speaker 1: something that was important to me. It is important to
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Speaker 1: my family, important to my vision. Because again, I don't
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Speaker 1: tell people who I vote for. I don't ask my
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Speaker 1: employees to tell me who they are voted for. That's
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Speaker 1: their decision. That doesn't mean they are wrong people. But
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Speaker 1: like you said, nowadays it's so divisive. You know, you know,
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Speaker 1: we're a Republican, you're a Democrat. If you're Democratic, then
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Speaker 1: you're good. If you're Republican, you're stupid, or you are
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Speaker 1: you would be considered a rednecker, you considered deplorables like
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Speaker 1: they would saying a long time ago when when Hillary
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Speaker 1: Clinton was running for a presidency. So it really is
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Speaker 1: in the point. But that's why I say music is
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Speaker 1: so emotionally driven Jermain. It really puts you in a way,
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Speaker 1: you know, especially the COVID clothes being shut down. You
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Speaker 1: know dance music? Is that is that a record that
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Speaker 1: somebody wants to drop right now? Something they can get
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Speaker 1: you bouncing? Or do you stay with this? You know
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Speaker 1: this this slow motion music of saying a change is
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Speaker 1: about to come, you know, doing Sam Cook doing Marvin Gay?
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Speaker 1: What is that? What is that beat right now? Because
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Speaker 1: you're a studio with two very talented guys, justin Timberlake
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Speaker 1: and Anthony Hamilton's two guys who are just very different,
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Speaker 1: that's what That's what speaks to your genius. But have
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Speaker 1: a voice that is very recognizable in this industry. Yeah, um,
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Speaker 1: I mean you know the beat The beat is what
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Speaker 1: you what. The beat is always what you wanted to be.
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Speaker 1: You pay attention to what's going on, just because of
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Speaker 1: what's going on, just so you could be that person
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Speaker 1: to know what's going on. But you as you as
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Speaker 1: the driver of the ship, you have to dictate what
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Speaker 1: what it is that people go to next hopefully um,
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Speaker 1: and you gotta put your all and your belief into
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Speaker 1: that movement so that people pay attention to the belief. Like,
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Speaker 1: that's one thing that I think people understand. People pay
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Speaker 1: attention more to belief than they pay attention to the
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Speaker 1: actual action. If you leave in your action, that's the
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Speaker 1: one thing that people believe in. That's what people pay
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Speaker 1: attention to them. Sorry, they pay attention to the belief.
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Speaker 1: Like every time I put out an artist, whether it's
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Speaker 1: been Crisscrossed, the Brat Escape, Jaggett, whoever it is, I
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Speaker 1: think people pay attention to my belief. They're paying attention
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Speaker 1: to the way that I believe that these artists are
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Speaker 1: gonna achieve or or they're gonna succeed. Um. People might
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Speaker 1: not be paying attention to the talent. So they believe
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Speaker 1: that Jermaine believes in this artist really really, he really
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Speaker 1: believes in these kids. He really believes that they can
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Speaker 1: and be something, And people pay attention to that. Once
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Speaker 1: you pay attention to the belief. Once you get people
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Speaker 1: paying attention to the belief, that's that's what it is.
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Speaker 1: So as far as steering the beat and what it is,
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Speaker 1: it's really like, you know, I could say this though,
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Speaker 1: I can say that the industry and I feel like
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Speaker 1: the world for me anyway, the world was ready for
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Speaker 1: all of the young artists of the world to step
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Speaker 1: up to the plate and make something, make a soundtrack
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Speaker 1: for this era. That's what I can't say. Um, you
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Speaker 1: can't you can't be in. Um. You can listen to
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Speaker 1: Sam Cook and you can listen to Marvin Gaye, but
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Speaker 1: those records weren't made for this time that we're in.
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Speaker 1: Those records was made for a time that we don't
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Speaker 1: live in. You you can't be scared to make music
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Speaker 1: for this time that we're in. But you know, it's
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Speaker 1: sad that it sounds like it is made for this time.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like you know, that's the sad part about it.
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Speaker 1: Like I said, repeating history, like I said, you know,
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Speaker 1: like you said, mother, mother, that fought too many of
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Speaker 1: say that you know, um covid hit. And that's where
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Speaker 1: the tension went. Went straight to my mailbox, because that's
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Speaker 1: what I am. I'm a songwriter that's written songs that
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Speaker 1: goes to the mailbox and picks up that that mailbox
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Speaker 1: check every every month or every whatever it comes. You know,
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Speaker 1: you don't know, you know, you don't know, I freak
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Speaker 1: when it is. But if you write enough records and
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Speaker 1: write enough hit records, um that check is is that
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Speaker 1: check is definitely there. And it's another one that comes
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Speaker 1: right after that, and there's another one comes right after that.
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Speaker 1: And I think, for the first time in my career,
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Speaker 1: this is the first time that I actually paid attention
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Speaker 1: to that. Because I always was getting money so many
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Speaker 1: multiple places, multiple income I made attention to it. But
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Speaker 1: I mean, now it's like that's the focus. The focus
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Speaker 1: is the focus of my life is the mailbox, and
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Speaker 1: the focus of my life is to create more music
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Speaker 1: that I could put out in the world so that
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Speaker 1: I can continue to keep walking to the mailbox. That's
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Speaker 1: part of your legacy. Then that's like you said, that
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Speaker 1: mailbox money is uh, it's something that black people unaware of,
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Speaker 1: you know, because we are. I was with Steve Harvard,
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Speaker 1: I said, all right, we start called us that working wealthy.
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Speaker 1: As long as we hit the stage, long as we
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Speaker 1: do a concert, long as we on this TV show,
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Speaker 1: we're wealthy because physically we're doing the job. But there
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Speaker 1: are some advantages that you have. You have a skill set, Jermaine,
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Speaker 1: where you are there taking those God gift those godly
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Speaker 1: talents and writing music and producing and how did that
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Speaker 1: become such a gift for you? Because just dropping damns
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Speaker 1: down on young people out there who need to know,
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Speaker 1: who want to be their version of Jermaine dupri What
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Speaker 1: is it is? It is? It is? It is getting connected?
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Speaker 1: Is the relationships or what is it that makes Jermaine
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Speaker 1: dupre domain dupret um understanding? I think you know, like
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Speaker 1: I said, I called a bunch of people today, a
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Speaker 1: lot of things going on in the industry to data
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Speaker 1: I don't that I don't like, nor do I understand
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Speaker 1: why it's happening. And I called a couple of my
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Speaker 1: friends at different labels to ask them questions about why
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Speaker 1: I see these things happening, And um, I told them
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Speaker 1: that I'm in school. Basically, I told him, Hey, I'm I'm,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm at home and I'm doing home school and
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Speaker 1: I need answers. And they thought it was a joke,
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Speaker 1: you know, people laughing, But I'm honestly, I'm I'm being
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Speaker 1: honest about it because I you know, we're in an
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Speaker 1: era where the young people believe they know exactly what's
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Speaker 1: going on, and they use the old people to get
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Speaker 1: what they want, but they don't believe the old people
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Speaker 1: know what they're talking about, right, And that's that's that's
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Speaker 1: the era that we're in. But then the young people's
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Speaker 1: results ain't nothing like the older people's results, and they
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Speaker 1: need to get to and the and the older people,
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Speaker 1: and the older people are too scared to say something
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Speaker 1: to the young people because it's gonna make them look
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Speaker 1: like they're old. And they're scared to say something to
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Speaker 1: the young people. They don't want the young people to
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Speaker 1: feel on their bad so they want to stay on
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Speaker 1: the good side of the young people. You know. So
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm studying this, I'm watching, and that's basically what
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Speaker 1: I've done my whole career. I just study, I watched,
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Speaker 1: I study, I watched, I learned. I asked questions and
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Speaker 1: I and I and I want to I just want
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Speaker 1: to see what what like? You know? Let me hear
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Speaker 1: your answer, Let me hear yours. Take each one of
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Speaker 1: these answers, and I tum up my own answer. You
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Speaker 1: know what makes you? What makes you special? Germaine? Hopefully
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Speaker 1: mind me complimenting you that you're authentic, okay, and you're topical.
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Speaker 1: See when you're authentic and your topical age doesn't matter
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Speaker 1: and you don't have to play that game that I'm
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Speaker 1: younger than what I am because you're authentic and people
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Speaker 1: come to topping. The relevancy of being topical was very
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Speaker 1: important because it means you know what's going on today,
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you know, with me, not the
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Speaker 1: country up, I think with me. The difference with the
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Speaker 1: whole relevancy and young and all that is that when
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Speaker 1: I started in this business, nobody wanted to talk to
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Speaker 1: me because I was so young. When I started in
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Speaker 1: this business, people thought I was crazy because I was
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Speaker 1: so young. So as moving forward, I don't ever feel
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Speaker 1: like I'm old. I don't even feel like I definitely
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Speaker 1: don't feel like it's a younger person smarter than me.
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Speaker 1: You know, I had to go through. I had to
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Speaker 1: go through so much as a younger person to get
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Speaker 1: older people to even have a conversation with you. Right,
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Speaker 1: So therefore I listened to younger people because they have
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Speaker 1: great ideas, and young people they have amazing ideas, but
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Speaker 1: the execution of them ideas when you're young, you don't
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Speaker 1: know how to do it. I mean me as one
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Speaker 1: I was. I was I had TLC and Cris Cross
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Speaker 1: at the same time, and I was young enough to
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Speaker 1: have the artists, but I was too young to know
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Speaker 1: what to do with both of them at the same time.
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Speaker 1: You know what, they believe me. You know, I wouldn't
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Speaker 1: call yo. No no, no no, no, no no no. I
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Speaker 1: know I'm I'm saying I'm glad you said it, because
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Speaker 1: like I don't. I never feel like that anyway. There's
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Speaker 1: those things don't even like I think. People think I
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Speaker 1: think about it, but I don't know because I always
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Speaker 1: I don't think people understand where I came from. When
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Speaker 1: I first made Cris Cross I was seventeen years old, um,
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Speaker 1: and for seventeen year old kid to produce a whole
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Speaker 1: album on some kids that weren't even teenagers. It was
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Speaker 1: the most unheard of thing in the music business ever
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Speaker 1: at the time when I did it. So I couldn't
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Speaker 1: get nobody that was at the front of that line
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Speaker 1: to even have a conversation with me. We just had
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Speaker 1: to find people that would. I had to find somebody
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Speaker 1: that believed, like I said, that believed in my belief
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Speaker 1: with Criss Cross Out. But the other people at the
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Speaker 1: front of the line, they didn't. They didn't believe in
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Speaker 1: what I was looking at. That's what I love about
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Speaker 1: what when the conversation that we have sustainability, a sustaining sound,
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Speaker 1: you know, And when I say that, when I when
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Speaker 1: I listened to it, if you justn't just just when
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Speaker 1: you said Cris Crawl Jump Jump came into my head,
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Speaker 1: that beat still moves me, still feel comfortable, doesn't feel dated.
18:46
Speaker 1: The sounds of TLC does not feel dated. It feels
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18:53
Speaker 1: That that has to be very proud moment of you
18:56
Speaker 1: that your music is has a stands the time, you know,
18:59
Speaker 1: because we don't know. Man, when when you're like I said,
19:01
Speaker 1: I mentioned Sam Cook song, that song will twenty years
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Speaker 1: from now, we're gonna that song. So when you look
19:09
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19:12
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19:14
Speaker 1: still on the radio twenty years old, that it still
19:18
Speaker 1: has relevancy and still moves people. People still get excited
19:21
Speaker 1: in the new generation gets excited about it. Yeah, I
19:24
Speaker 1: mean it's definitely, it's definitely. Um. It gives you confidence,
19:28
Speaker 1: but it also gives me a headache because you're also
19:32
Speaker 1: sitting and you like, I don't. I don't know how
19:35
Speaker 1: I did it. Yes, I don't. I don't know how
19:38
Speaker 1: I achieved that with multiple artists. But it's something that
19:41
Speaker 1: I have to learn and figure out. Your headache, headache,
19:47
Speaker 1: Mr Mailbox, Mr meilbody. But let's talk about two artists,
19:50
Speaker 1: Justin Timbula and Anthony Hamilton. That's a headache. They're two
19:53
Speaker 1: different talents. How do you work with two different talents
19:56
Speaker 1: like that? Well, Anthony Hamilton, I signed him from from
19:59
Speaker 1: the getting and I don't think people. A lot of
20:01
Speaker 1: people don't know that I signed Anthony Hamilton's From the
20:05
Speaker 1: first time that you heard Anthony Hamilton's he came through
20:08
Speaker 1: so so that and um, I'm a fan, you know
20:13
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan of Anthony Hamilton's music. I know
20:15
Speaker 1: exactly who he is as artists, and I understand that
20:21
Speaker 1: the most valuable piece in the Anthony Hamilton's Puzzle, it's
20:26
Speaker 1: his voice. And to make sure that people hear his voice. Um,
20:31
Speaker 1: the way I heard his voice, and they continue to
20:33
Speaker 1: hear his voice the way I heard it is the key.
20:36
Speaker 1: If I do anything else outside of that, I'm i'm,
20:39
Speaker 1: I'm I'm killing myself. So it's actually easy because all
20:43
Speaker 1: you gotta do is make amazing songs and let him single.
20:47
Speaker 1: The hard part is to give him to like the
20:49
Speaker 1: songs or get him to write the song once you
20:52
Speaker 1: make Once you make amazing songs. That Anthony Hamilton's puzzle
20:57
Speaker 1: is a pretty easy puzzle to put together. And Justin
20:59
Speaker 1: Timber Justin is is a little bit more a little
21:06
Speaker 1: I didn't sign him, and he you know, he's not
21:12
Speaker 1: my artist, And you have to become telepathical in a
21:17
Speaker 1: way to try to figure out if you're making what
21:21
Speaker 1: that person wants and he told me what he wants,
21:24
Speaker 1: and you gotta try to go in and shot and
21:25
Speaker 1: try to create that. And he you know, he'll give
21:27
Speaker 1: you a head. Now he might not some things might
21:30
Speaker 1: not work. Um, but um, that's a little bit more difficult.
21:35
Speaker 1: It's a much more challenging situation because he has other
21:37
Speaker 1: producers and you gotta kind of fit into that bag. Um.
21:41
Speaker 1: So that's more like, uh, that's not as easy as
21:44
Speaker 1: Anthony Hamilton's Um. And then it's not as easy because
21:48
Speaker 1: people pay attention to it, like you you said it.
21:51
Speaker 1: I'm not telling a lot of people that I'm working
21:52
Speaker 1: on Justin's album because it's impresciurely. If you don't work,
21:56
Speaker 1: it's not good. Um. And you know, people gonna be
21:59
Speaker 1: like Judge man, you us just as that boy you messed.
22:04
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22:07
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22:09
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22:13
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22:14
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22:16
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22:18
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22:21
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22:28
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22:32
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22:37
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22:59
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23:04
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