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John Gray, Marcellus Wiley, Yolanda Adams & Kevin Powell · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: They in turn deliver information about career planning, motivation, financial literacy,
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  Speaker 1: and how they lead a balanced life. My next guest
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  Speaker 1: has been on several Tells television shows, as well as
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  Speaker 1: a co host on Fox Networks talk show The Preachers,
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  Speaker 1: which I saw them on, which aired in the summer
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  Speaker 1: of ten. He and his family are currently in the
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  Speaker 1: third season of their show, The Book of John Gray,
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  Speaker 1: which airs on the Oprah Winfrey Network. We all know
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  Speaker 1: that network. He was an Ebony Power one hundred honor
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  Speaker 1: read I want to be one of those one day
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  Speaker 1: and inducted into the inaugural class of Oprah Winfrey's Super
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  Speaker 1: Soul One. That's pretty powerful, that's pretty problem, that's pretty powerful.
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  Speaker 1: This young man's got it going on. He is on
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  Speaker 1: the show to day to talk about his latest book,
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  Speaker 1: When from Within. Again. He's on the show today to
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  Speaker 1: talk about his latest book, When from Within. He wants
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  Speaker 1: to help readers identify how best to handle the most difficult, challenging,
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  Speaker 1: and and yet necessary battles that we all face our
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  Speaker 1: inner struggle to overcome the worst versions of ourselves. Jacob
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  Speaker 1: spent much of his life running and hiding from himself.
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  Speaker 1: At a certain point, we, like Jacob, cannot run from
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  Speaker 1: our true selves anymore. We must stop and face ourselves
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  Speaker 1: if we are to become great. His book When from
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  Speaker 1: Within helps It helps us now us conquer our inner
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  Speaker 1: darkness and overcome such hindrance as fear I talked about
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  Speaker 1: that earlier, shame and guilt, he praised. You will find
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  Speaker 1: this powerfully biblical self help. God push you towards victory
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  Speaker 1: over your inner struggles. Please welcome to money making conversations.
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  Speaker 1: Some behind I'm saw on a long time, ran into
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  Speaker 1: him in the airport a couple of a couple of
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  Speaker 1: months ago. Pastor John Gray the Third, my friend to
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  Speaker 1: be with you today. Feeling good, feeling good man, you know,
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  Speaker 1: uh actually The previous time I saw you was in
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  Speaker 1: Houston on stage and and uh doing the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: ceremony for BT. It was the NFL Acquire celebration and
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  Speaker 1: Joelo Sting's church, and you was crushing it. Man, he's funny,
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  Speaker 1: you know that. Man. I was trying. They put me
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  Speaker 1: up there last minute. I was like, now, y'all got
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  Speaker 1: some other hopes. I won't have they checked. I just
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  Speaker 1: happened to be there. Oh my good you were. You
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  Speaker 1: were there, but just been a journey man. Uh, you
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  Speaker 1: know the little side know about me and Pastor John
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  Speaker 1: graded Third. Uh we met, Uh, just just I guess
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  Speaker 1: it was just one of those moments in life how
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  Speaker 1: you just meet people and how my life is always
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  Speaker 1: has been able to introduce people to their their their
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  Speaker 1: course of life, their dream or or something they're trying
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  Speaker 1: to seek. Uh. Steve Harvey and I we were at
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  Speaker 1: a sold out show and uh at the New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: Pack that's one of the best theaters in the country.
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  Speaker 1: And this young man came up to me. Didn't know him,
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  Speaker 1: didn't know him, and it was funny because Steve said,
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  Speaker 1: who is that? I said, he said, he's funny and
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  Speaker 1: he wants to go on stage. He said, what you
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  Speaker 1: gonna do? I said, he, brother, everybody deserves a shot.
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  Speaker 1: And it was funny because you know, it's how life is.
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  Speaker 1: And he believe me, he was funny too. He was
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  Speaker 1: very funny. And to tell him to experience that, John man, uh,
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  Speaker 1: that was rip Sack. I think it was a show
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  Speaker 1: for a hair care company, absolutely right. And and Darren said,
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  Speaker 1: John McGee, five minutes, you know, to to open. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm sitting here and I'm looking at you. Already a legend.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Broby's back there, already a legend. And I'm sitting
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  Speaker 1: here and I got a one bad room apartment in
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  Speaker 1: South Jersey with a vote for a tourist in the
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  Speaker 1: back of n J pack and it was you know,
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  Speaker 1: it had to be two thousand two, maybe somewhere back then. Man,
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  Speaker 1: I got up there and I did my piece. I
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  Speaker 1: came off stage. You should said a great job, great job,
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  Speaker 1: and he said, and Steve wants you to introduce him.
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  Speaker 1: And that was like the greatest honor to be able
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  Speaker 1: to stand amongst giants. And at that time I was
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  Speaker 1: a youth pastor that was doing like Christian comedy, family comedy,
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  Speaker 1: and we know uncle Steve, he'll put some words together.
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  Speaker 1: They show um. But the fact that I was able
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  Speaker 1: to stand amongst the great uh and just to watch
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  Speaker 1: meant the world. The way you carried yourself, the suit
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  Speaker 1: you had on, the hat, the tie. I could go
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  Speaker 1: on and on. I remember those details because for me,
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  Speaker 1: and already I'm like getting emotional. But for me, when
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  Speaker 1: you don't have a father, and don't my father figure,
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  Speaker 1: and don't have many of your life, you look to
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  Speaker 1: see what excellence looks like. And for me, my all
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  Speaker 1: I have is my heart. My heart is my commodity.
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  Speaker 1: As long as I keep my heart pewre, I figured,
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  Speaker 1: guy's gonna take me wherever he wants me to go.
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  Speaker 1: So on that day for you guys to accept me,
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  Speaker 1: we're saying, y'all see me right, that you guys find
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  Speaker 1: value in me, And that helped me. It propelled me, uh,
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  Speaker 1: and it gave me some confidence to keep going, push
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  Speaker 1: on through. And so I just had to say, you
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  Speaker 1: know how grateful I was for that experience. It was
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  Speaker 1: an eye opener, uh, and it was it was wonderful
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  Speaker 1: and just thank you, you know, And like I said,
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the blessings of my show that I
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  Speaker 1: started money making conversations that I hear these stories from
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  Speaker 1: from great individuals like you, And you're a great individual,
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  Speaker 1: believe me, my friend. And I feel I feel fortunate
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  Speaker 1: that I had a place in your life, a positive
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  Speaker 1: place in your life. But when he went on stage,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't even a second thought about giving him that opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: And that's all. That's how my heart works. I don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe that I give people opportunities to fail.
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  Speaker 1: I believe them giving the opportunities to win. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's a great transition to what this
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  Speaker 1: book about is by when from within, which when I
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  Speaker 1: read the book, John, Um, you know, you kick it off,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you come right out with the truth about
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  Speaker 1: the wife and the kids walking out that door, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and and and but as you as you read his book,
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  Speaker 1: it's like he started at the end to get to
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  Speaker 1: the beginning, Am I correct? Right? That's right, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to get people's attention. A lot of times
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  Speaker 1: when I read books, people start off all start off,
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  Speaker 1: all soft and tender, and you know, see the best
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  Speaker 1: about him. I wanted you to see I'm starting off
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  Speaker 1: as a mess because to me, that's more relatable. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe necessarily in the concept of
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  Speaker 1: you know, this idea of self help, Like there's a
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  Speaker 1: ton of self help books in the bookstore. The thing is,
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  Speaker 1: if they worked, there wouldn't be a self help section
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  Speaker 1: because the first book you read with a word. So
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  Speaker 1: instead of me saying, let me, let me help you
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  Speaker 1: with my expertise, let me help you with my brokenness,
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  Speaker 1: let me lead from my scars. And I feel like
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  Speaker 1: if I lead from my scars and lead from my wounds,
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  Speaker 1: then you immediately are disarmed because you don't have to
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  Speaker 1: be perfect to read this book. In fact, the more
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  Speaker 1: broken you are, the more hope you'll receive. See, I'm
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  Speaker 1: tired of people bashing people because they make bad decisions.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody wakes up in the morning saying I can't wait
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  Speaker 1: to fail my family. We are all human and we
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  Speaker 1: have challenges, difficulties, and we make bad decisions, and many
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  Speaker 1: of them are because we're weary and we're trying to
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  Speaker 1: figure out how to get back to the place called
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  Speaker 1: balance and balance is and and balance is an illusion. Rashane,
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  Speaker 1: let me just say this. When people are like, how
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  Speaker 1: do you find the balance between ministry and family. There
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  Speaker 1: is no such thing because balance means both things are equal.
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  Speaker 1: Ministry can never weigh more than my wife and kids,
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  Speaker 1: and it did. That's why my wife was like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to my mama's house because you're married to the
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  Speaker 1: church and you're dating your family. And so for me,
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  Speaker 1: I needed to re calibrate and say this family that
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  Speaker 1: God has blessed me with, these two children that He's
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  Speaker 1: blessed me with, even though I feel inadequate as a
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  Speaker 1: husband and as a father, because I never saw that.
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  Speaker 1: I need to put my roots down and start building
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  Speaker 1: right here. Because if I make decisions when I'm weary,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose it all. And nobody will know that
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  Speaker 1: what I did wasn't because I was in lust or
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  Speaker 1: in addiction, because I was weary. So I got some
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  Speaker 1: therapists and I and I got a Bible, and I
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  Speaker 1: got some prayer and I did all three of them.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not ashamed to say it. Come on, and
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  Speaker 1: when when he talks about weariness with Samson, Samson total
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  Speaker 1: his strength was his hair. God blessed him. As long
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  Speaker 1: as you don't put the razor to your hair, you
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  Speaker 1: would have strength. He's weariness. He gave the lie of
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  Speaker 1: the truth. Now on David instead of going off the war.
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  Speaker 1: He up there on top of his palace, looking around.
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  Speaker 1: He looked over as he but she obathing. He telling
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  Speaker 1: him to bring her to him, and they have they
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  Speaker 1: make love or sex. You know what I'm saying. So
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  Speaker 1: that's the weariness he's talking about, because you you make
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  Speaker 1: decision that aren't right for yourself, but you do them anyway,
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  Speaker 1: because guess what you weary. Come on, man, you're about
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  Speaker 1: to have me start preaching with you. Man, I'm about
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  Speaker 1: to start preaching, man, come on now, come on now,
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  Speaker 1: the beauty of that's what I said without reading this book. Man,
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  Speaker 1: It's like, here's this is what I wrote this out
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  Speaker 1: of the book. It says it's the stew. He said,
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  Speaker 1: the stew. And then he's gonna explain to you what
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  Speaker 1: the stew is. The stew is no joke. It tastes
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  Speaker 1: good going down. It's a tasty death. It's a tasty end.
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  Speaker 1: You dab the corners of your mouth because it satisfies
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  Speaker 1: in that moment, in an instant, though everything has changed,
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  Speaker 1: it's all gone. Talk about that Stu Pastor I'm getting
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  Speaker 1: ready to go read my book again. Um. There was
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  Speaker 1: a moment in the lives of Jacob and Esaw. For
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  Speaker 1: those who may not be familiar with the biblical narrative,
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  Speaker 1: Nacob and Esa were twin brothers. He saw came out first.
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  Speaker 1: Jacob grabbed his heel as he was coming out of
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  Speaker 1: the womb that the name Jacob means he'll grabb her
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  Speaker 1: or replacement or supplanter. And it was the fulfillment of
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  Speaker 1: a prophety that was given to the mother that said,
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  Speaker 1: two nations are in your womb, and the older shall
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  Speaker 1: serve the younger. And so Jacob was was basically his
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  Speaker 1: whole life trying to up end his brother or outdo
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  Speaker 1: his brother. But he didn't have his brother's strength, and
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  Speaker 1: he didn't have his father's favor. And so at one
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  Speaker 1: point Esau, who was very impetuous and he moved in
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  Speaker 1: the moment, came back from hunting, and he was exhausted
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  Speaker 1: and he was hungry, and he said to his brother,
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  Speaker 1: fixed me some of that student. Let me get a
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  Speaker 1: bowl of that stew you've made. And Jacob said, I'll
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  Speaker 1: give you some stew if you sell me your birthright now.
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  Speaker 1: In an't your Hebrew times, selling your birthright was a
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  Speaker 1: kind of dishonoring your parents, dishonoring God. It's dishonoring your identity.
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  Speaker 1: Your birthright means you've got a double portion of a blessing.
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  Speaker 1: You've got favor for the rest of your life and
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  Speaker 1: your kids. And so in a moment of temporary hunger,
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  Speaker 1: Esau made an eternal decision. And so the stew represents
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  Speaker 1: anything that wants you to eat it right now without
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  Speaker 1: understanding that it's gonna cost you for the rest of
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  Speaker 1: your life. So stew for Saul. Actually it tasted good
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  Speaker 1: while he ate it, but nothing was ever the same.
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  Speaker 1: He lost his birthright, he lost his identity, and he
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  Speaker 1: lost his favor. For those who read the Bible, God
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  Speaker 1: introduces himself to Moses as the god of Abraham, Isaac
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  Speaker 1: and Jacob. It should have been Abraham, Isaac and East all,
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  Speaker 1: but Esol chose to sell his birthright, and therefore he
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  Speaker 1: gave up his identity and then got made and Jacob
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  Speaker 1: had to go run to run, fell on that rock,
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  Speaker 1: and with the sleep that came an altar pad. This
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  Speaker 1: for a book. I've had this ford because it's like
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  Speaker 1: reading a Bible. I love it because like a refresher course,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because of the fact that when you're going
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  Speaker 1: through a well written book allows you to experience something,
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  Speaker 1: also allows you to realize that this is something that's
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  Speaker 1: important in your life. And then when you read this book,
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  Speaker 1: you realize how important the Bible lives in your life. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: Pastor John Grade three, I really want to appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: I really want to appreciate you coming on the show
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  Speaker 1: Man and uh allowing me to read your book and
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  Speaker 1: promote your book and sell the values of your book,
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  Speaker 1: because it's important when you write these books. And I
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  Speaker 1: know he does a lot of these shows equal important.
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  Speaker 1: He knows that I've read his book and I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: the value what he brought to the table. Amen, thank
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  Speaker 1: you for sing for allowing me to be on your platform.
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  Speaker 1: That you for being my friend through these years, and
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  Speaker 1: thank you for opening that door and and and and
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  Speaker 1: speaking likely me all those years ago. Just to pray
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  Speaker 1: that this book is a blessing to you and to
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  Speaker 1: all of your listeners and supporters. I really do want
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  Speaker 1: them to get it. It is a life changing read.
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  Speaker 1: I believe that I appreciate your brother, Pastor John Grady Third,
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  Speaker 1: writer who has penned articles, essays, and blogs for a
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  Speaker 1: wide range of newspapers and magazines and major websites, including
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  Speaker 1: The New York Times, The Washington Posts, CNN, NPR, ESPN, Essence, Ebony,
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  Speaker 1: Rolling Stone, Esquire, Huffington Post, and Vibe, where he was
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  Speaker 1: a writer, a senior writer and founding staff member. Please
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  Speaker 1: worcome to money Making Conversation, the author of the critically
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  Speaker 1: acclaimed autobiography of its critically claim autobiography, The Education of
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Powell, A Boy's Journey into Manhood. Please working to
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  Speaker 1: Money Making Conference. Kevin Powell, good morning, Thank you so
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  Speaker 1: much for having me. Thank you so much. How do
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  Speaker 1: you go from writing on a from CNN to NPR
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  Speaker 1: to ESPN to Essence. I mean, my mama give me
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: a work ethic. And my mother is from South Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: from the from the South. And so even though I
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  Speaker 1: was born in the north, New Jersey, boy right, New Jersey, Right,
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  Speaker 1: New Jersey, correct Jersey. And I've lived in New York
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  Speaker 1: for almost thirty years, New York and New Jersey. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I was raised with a very serious work ethic.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't take that for granted. And I just
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  Speaker 1: you know, God, you know you you you take seriously
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  Speaker 1: while you put on this earth. I believe at early age,
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  Speaker 1: when I was eight, team when I was in college,
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  Speaker 1: I said, well, I definitely need to help communities around
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  Speaker 1: this country as an activist, as a leader, and I
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: definitely clear that I right, I need to right. And
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: so you just you do your work, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: you you push. You know, you can't give up. You know,
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  Speaker 1: if you live on enough this you won't know. So
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: you have a lot of ups and downs, dire been
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: times that I've made tremendous amounts of money in my life,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: been times when I've had the colossal failures, but I
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: always get back up no matter what. And you just
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: stay humble, You stay humble and no matter what, And
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  Speaker 1: I think that's that's critical and I take very seriously.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I work with a lot of young people now, um,
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  Speaker 1: and I think seriously like we gotta still set you know,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what your business or your your passion as
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you really need to become a master at it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you need to know that world. And I decided early
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  Speaker 1: on that I needed to learn the world of being
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  Speaker 1: a writer, being a public speaker, of how to run
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  Speaker 1: a business. I've learned my own business for twenty two years.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: I take all of that very seriously. So would that
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  Speaker 1: being said, what, here's it, here's it. I'm a sitcom writer,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: I'm a sitcom writer. We need comedy, we need more
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  Speaker 1: comedy than time. Well, you know that's why I respect
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  Speaker 1: you as a writer, because, like I said, when I
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  Speaker 1: went to when I in high school, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: didn't respect the process, you know subject vert now, I
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: didn't respect the process. And so when I when I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: went to college, I you know, I got into the
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  Speaker 1: University Houston, but they didn't like my writing school. Are
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: you from Houston? Morning raised? Houston, Texas. That's where I'm from.
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  Speaker 1: I was just there. I love Houston. Shout out to Ashtown,
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  Speaker 1: come on, come on there. And I got home there.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna leave there. I got
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: a home in Atlanta and a love of both locations,
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  Speaker 1: and and and the one thing about the beauty of
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: traveling you get to see the world. And I tell
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  Speaker 1: people to travel all the time. And I get back
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  Speaker 1: to what I wanted to say about your ability as
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: a writer, because I have to respect that because I
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  Speaker 1: know that I had to step back to learn how
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: to write. What makes a good writer, Kevin? What? What
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: is the nuances of your mind being to translate words?
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: And it becomes very creative from a writing perspective. That's
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  Speaker 1: why I say I'm ana sit com right, That's different
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  Speaker 1: for what you do, which is an it's all all
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: praisy to do the God, that's all connected because I mean, honestly,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: so I grew up watching a lot of TV, and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: so you know, I think all of its valuable. Like
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: what if if I'm actually turning the Education of Kevin
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  Speaker 1: Powe into a TV pilot right now, myself and my
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: co writer, So what does that mean? We gotta go
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  Speaker 1: and watch a lot of TV shows and so be
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a sitcoms, comedies or dramas or books, you know, poetry,
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  Speaker 1: And you just said, I believe you have to read
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  Speaker 1: a lot in the space that you want to write in.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: You know, like, well, what are the best sitcoms there?
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  Speaker 1: And whether I need to go watch all those sitcoms
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  Speaker 1: going back to the nineteen fifties right up to the present.
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  Speaker 1: You know, what are the best dramas that ever been
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  Speaker 1: on TV? What are the best films out there? So
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: anything that I've ever written in I make it a
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: point to study that that that particular type of writing.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Like right now, I'm working on my fourteenth book, which
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: is a biography of Tupac Shakur. So I've been reading
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: for the last couple of years a lot of biographies,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: but also watching a lot of documentary films, like you
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: know about famous figures. It could be James Baldwin, it
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: could be need Him, some old Amy, One House, just
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: anything that's telling the story about a person's life. So
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: it could help me write this book. And the same
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: thing you know applies to to sitcoms. And I think
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: that you know any of it, you know, there's not
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, brother, I don't think there's any shame and
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  Speaker 1: saying I think it's beautiful that you said. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: hadn't learned how to do it, because we all are students.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I'm forever a student. I'm still always going to read stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I was just one of the folks that learned. I
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: figured out early on, when I was at eleven twelve
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  Speaker 1: years old, I want to be a writer. But I
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: still didn't start writing really seriously until to high school
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and then really once I got to college, and to
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: this day, you know, I'm I'm thinking about it in
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: different ways, like Okay, how do I make this better?
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  Speaker 1: How to reach people in their new ways? And so
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: if the process is a journey. You just gotta be
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: open to it, you know. Yes, I first of all,
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  Speaker 1: I'm willing to admit my flaws because I tell when
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: you come on this show, I don't want anybody that
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  Speaker 1: they can google me. They see success, their flaws tied
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: to that success, their mistakes tied to that success. But
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: also tell people, just because I was incapable of understanding
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the process, then look at it, I'm gonna sitcom writer.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously I learned how to write something. I learned
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: how to put words together from a comedic standpoint, from
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: a storytelling standpoint. So I always tell people that in
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: African American, so you know, so so many leaps that
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: that people allowed setbacks. So people tell them you can't
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  Speaker 1: do this, And I look at your life. Your life
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: is tied to people saying what you can't do, and
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: then there's a serious of people that tell you what
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  Speaker 1: you can do. I talk to us about I got well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, I think you know, one
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: of the beautiful things about being black, which is what
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: we are, is that we're natural storytellers. We're naturally funny
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: to see that we're exactly theramatic. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: so I always say to people like we should honor.
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  Speaker 1: Like my my mom is a gech from South Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: When I've grown up, Sir, I was I was told
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  Speaker 1: that people spoke a certain kind of way that wasn't
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  Speaker 1: correct realized now my mama seeks beautiful poetry and just
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: like you know, so the people of Houston, of Atlanta,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: wherever we're from, is beautiful poetry. And if we if
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: we understand the genius that we have inside of us,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: and that you know, if we want to get into entertainment,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: we want to get into this world, all we need
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: to do is like booking. T. Washington said, put your
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: buckets right down there and watch the magic come up
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: in the sitcoms, in the books, in the dry whatever
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you want to create in the music. You know what
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And that's what I think about. And so
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's it's most of the work
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: that I do just comes from our our people, our communities,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: our history, you know, current events and things like that.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: And and as you know, it's endless. We got so
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: many stories. Well you know the thing about it is
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: that like I was working at IBM, and then when
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I left IBM to pursue a career into entertainment. The
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: reason I went in entertainment in this world because I
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: didn't see. I didn't see, I didn't see the end.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I just felt I could just I can
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  Speaker 1: just create, I can just I can just grow as
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  Speaker 1: an individual. And then the writing aspect of it has
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  Speaker 1: made me a king. You know, you can't stop me.
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  Speaker 1: You can't stop me from telling my story. You can't
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: telling me stop me from writing my story. You can't
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: stop me from promoting my story. And so that's why
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: people need to understand the power of education. That's how
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I respect you so much. One of my good friends
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: with Stephen a Smith, and he's a word smith verbally
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and and with a pen. And I always I said,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: that's the genius of you. The genius of you, Kevin,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: is that you do it as well. You're very articulate,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: you know you, you you brace your tones and understand
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: that you you have a world perspective. And the reason
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: I say that is that the fact that you know Tupactic,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: you just through that. I like that wasn't not Tupac Shakoo.
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  Speaker 1: I consider the greatest rapper, the storyteller, rapper of all time,
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  Speaker 1: now you can look at me that people can look
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  Speaker 1: at me. But no, no, no, no, no, no, I
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  Speaker 1: don't care what you This guy went political, this guy
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  Speaker 1: went party, This guy was sexy, this guy was below
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  Speaker 1: he had drama. He Uh, Dear Mama is the is
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  Speaker 1: the one of the all time great Mother's Day songs.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: And Brenda had a Got a Baby is one of
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  Speaker 1: the most incredible true to life stories. Uh, Holly, you
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  Speaker 1: wanted one of the greatest party songs of all time.
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  Speaker 1: Don't don't talk to me? So I couldn't look at that.
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  Speaker 1: When that movie came out, I could look at that
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: movie can They weren't gonna do it justice. See, but
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: your book. I'm waiting on your book because I know
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: you're gonna and we're gonna come on this show when
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: that book come out. You gotta tell me because we're
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: gonna do it. We're gonna do a half hour because
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I'm a fan. See I was. I was looking back
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: at this. I met Tupac and the Kinko's the Kinks,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, he was standing next to me and he
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: was arguing with the man because he was trying to
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: do he was trying to do his his album cover
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  Speaker 1: or CD cover in the store, and then he thought
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the man was charging him too much. He said, man,
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  Speaker 1: I can do that myself. He's I'm not gonna pay
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  Speaker 1: that kind of money. And when I meet people like
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  Speaker 1: that and I see him later on and they have
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  Speaker 1: a tragic any I always go, why did I speak?
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  Speaker 1: Because I always plead that man, God's giving an opportunity
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  Speaker 1: to change people's direction. And he's one of those people.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I had said hello too, and it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like I was in awe. I just didn't talk. And
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: so that's why I created the show. Kevin, I'm gonna talk, man,
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  Speaker 1: Come on out there, I got give it up on that.
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  Speaker 1: Come on out. I got the memos. Look at what
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  Speaker 1: been a little scared if it was leopard. You know
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  Speaker 1: how you doing good? Good to see you. Well, thank you,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: thanks for doing the show because I know you. First
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: of all, I know you travel. Yeah, okay, so I
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: means you have to put me in your schedule to
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  Speaker 1: do this, but you know you you get carte blanche.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you appreciate it. Now we we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: start a love personal First on the side, my daughter Christiana,
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  Speaker 1: she was on the tennis Tours Tory c L and
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  Speaker 1: now she's enrolling in the University of Houston. Okay, she's
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  Speaker 1: uh going to be studying mechanical engineering. This fault. Now
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  Speaker 1: you have somebody named Taylor. Yes, and you'll graduate of
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  Speaker 1: Texas Universe. Yes, I am. Now what's cool is she
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  Speaker 1: gonna go to She is going to go to the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: other side of uh my college career. She's going to Howard.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: She's going to Howard. Yeah. She's excited about it, and
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about it too. You know, I I raised
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: her to have her own way of thinking, her own
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: way of doing things. It's all based on you know,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: the knowledge of God and how God empowers you to
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: make great decisions and be a great person. And uh,
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I just wanted to be happy, just like you, you
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  Speaker 1: know parents, that's parents. We want our kids to just
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: be happy with whatever God empowers them to do. And
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: it's amazing because you know, first of all, you're nervous
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: because if you, if you have a child, you cook
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: your TV, kids get snatched. You know, it's just crazy
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: how you have to just pull yourself back and allow
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: your child to grow, because you can just wrap your
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: arms around them and just suffocate them. And guess what
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: they out there seeing it anywhere on YouTube and watching
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: their phones, so they educate themselves, maybe the wrong way
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: if you don't let them grow. So when she made
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the decision to go east, that's a lot of miles.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Now we're right through your mind. Nothing her god mother
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: is there, aunts and uncles, you know, support, I know
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the Capital police there, I know d C. So we're cold.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And of course you know I have to buy a
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: play you know somewhere, might as well be to rich Carlton,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: so I'll be every now and then again. I had
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  Speaker 1: the pleasure of being raised by two why I should say,
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  Speaker 1: four amazing people, my father and my father and my
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  Speaker 1: grandfather grandmother who who really encouraged us all to be
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: ourselves because I'm the oldest of six kids. So they
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: encouraged us to be ourselves so much so that we
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: all went into different directions. You know. And then then,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: now would you being in entertainment, but then you Texas
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: othern you studied with radio communication, radio TV journalism, journalism.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Now weren't brought you into Okay, Like I gotta ask you,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: what just how did you get discovered in the music? John? Well, uh, funny.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I was about thirteen years old when I joined the
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Southeast Inspirational Choir. Now we were already well they were
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: already a touring and recording choir before I even got there.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: And uh so by the age of fifteen, I was
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: leading songs on recordings. By seventeen, I had my first
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Billboard hit, my Liberty with the choir. Yeah you know,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, um And and you know, I thought that
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: I was just going to stay with the choir until
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I got my reporting job after college. You know, do
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: all these great things anything other than a great opportunity,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: but just a great opportunity. And then even after I
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: left the choir and started doing solo projects with Thomas Whitfield,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I was teaching school because you know, the Channel eleventh
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: thing went away, and so I mean, come on, we're
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: you know how corporate can happen, and so it went away. Listen,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: it was a total blessing because now I'm back in it,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: and you know, you understand the ups and downs of
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: of everything. You know, life is like that, so you
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: learn how to adjust. That's why I love golf. So
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: it's a game of correction. Absolutely absolutely. And uh so
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: when I did the thing with Tom of Twitfield, I
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: just thought i would teach Monday through Friday, get on
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: a plane on Friday, get back on Sunday or Monday
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: morning to teach again, and I'd have two incomes. Did
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: you tell me I'm all about the remote income? This
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: we go talk about the small business? Yes, yes, yes,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: so you know, and that's how that happened. And it
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: all happened. You know, God's timing is amazing, it really is.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Interest that reason I really wanted you on the show
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: was because of your you know, you're true entertainment. Yes,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: first of all, this show is based in Houston, but
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: it aris nationwide, and I'm trying to galvanize and create
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: a movement in Houston, a mindset that you can be
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: more than what you think you are. And and when
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  Speaker 1: I when I and I've known how long enough to
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  Speaker 1: know she's from Sterling High School. Yes, that's right here
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  Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. I'm for fars Brook High It's not
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  Speaker 1: in an existence though it's torn down. Okay, so these
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  Speaker 1: these these are memories, these are we are regular people.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I go to Cracker Barrel, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: go to Green Goes. You know, I even go to
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  Speaker 1: go to Corral. I'm a shocking subway, that's me. You know,
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  Speaker 1: because I like food doesn't mean you make a certain
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  Speaker 1: amount of money. You're supposed to stop going to places
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  Speaker 1: that you want to be going place where you go.
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  Speaker 1: What you're doing is just like just like you when
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I when I look at what you're doing and I
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: look at your career, you know, the whole radio side.
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  Speaker 1: Talk to us about the radio and high important that
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  Speaker 1: has been for your career and where you're going with
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  Speaker 1: it in the future. The radio Thank you, is was
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: an answer to the prayer, and it is an answer
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  Speaker 1: to the prayer that uh, you know, as a single
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  Speaker 1: mom at the time, I was like, man, I do
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  Speaker 1: not want to let my life move so fast that
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  Speaker 1: I am not in the moment. But Taylor as she
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  Speaker 1: has these epiphanies and these things that happened in her life.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I was there when she was cheering for
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: the little Broncos team. I was there when she was
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: running track. I was there and that was important to me.
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  Speaker 1: And so for me, I asked, God, Okay, this travel
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  Speaker 1: Monday through Sunday. It can't work, and I'd be a
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  Speaker 1: successful parent because parenting is very important to me. As
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  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, anyone who knows me knows that
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: parenting for me is my number one. I am a
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  Speaker 1: mother first, I am I am. I'm a mother first,
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  Speaker 1: and I enjoyed my child, you know. And so that
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  Speaker 1: was the prayer. Lord, give me something that I can
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  Speaker 1: be home at least from Monday to Thursday, so that
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  Speaker 1: she knows that mom will always be home Monday through
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  Speaker 1: Thursday unless she and I have a talk and I'd say,
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  Speaker 1: you know, hey, I gotta leave on Wednesday or whatever. Yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, Lord. But what happened was, Um,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: after praying that prayer, less than a week, our friend,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: attorney Ricky Anderson called and said, Hey, would you like
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: to go into business with Radio one? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: at first, Lord, and I'm like, of course, of course,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, it answered everything. I would be home
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  Speaker 1: Monday through Friday. I could fly away and do everything
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: that I needed to do and um and still be
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: that doting mom you know, looking at her child blossoms
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: Radio One. It was like, because I was Steve Harvey
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: launched him New York City and Rickey kay and Ricky said,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: who else do you think it'd be a star in radio?
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: And she doesn't even notice I went and he said, why,
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  Speaker 1: she just has it. I don't know if you, if
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you ever get a chance, listen to our morning show
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: because of the fact that it's a it's a storytelling
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  Speaker 1: you about inspiring you. Just stop being regular. Step is
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: to you, step out of your box and I will
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: tell you something on radio. And I have to say
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: this because I've had a very good life. I produced Monique,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: she wanna produced Jamie Fox. He's gonna oscar you know,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Robert Townsend Gabrielle Union, Kim Whitley, Steve Harvey. Of course
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: your skills on the radio. Only a person i've seen
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: it comes close to what you do. Only because he's funny,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Steve Hark. That's how talented. You thank something much. That's
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: huge because he's funny, you know. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: it will stop. Steve Harvey. Oh my god. You know,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: but what you do and and and it's kind of
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: crazy because I'm a type of person is that See
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: I believe in somebody and I don't even have to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: I just know their spirit right, and I know I
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: can I can just break you down and say this
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  Speaker 1: is what you're gonna do. And watching you, it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: until I heard you on the radio that I became
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: a bigger Oh my god. I just knew she was gifted.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: But she she's telling a lot some stuff that I'm
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: just engaged. And you and you're a talker to yes,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, do do great radio. You gotta
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: be able to talk. I didn't know shoot that type
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  Speaker 1: of mom. I don't really know, you know, I didn't
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: know shoot that engage because that all they see is glamour.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: They see an amazing vocalists. And the thing that I
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: really wanted you on the show was to talk about
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: your entrepreneurs side. Yes, and that side a lot of
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: people don't know about. That is grown because that goes
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: back to your whole philosophy. Different streams of income and
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I want to be a school teacher
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: in the same tell us what inspired you to what
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: what these opportunities that can't in your way, and how
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  Speaker 1: they convicted Well, first of all, it starts again with
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: great parenting and great grandparenting. My father was an educator
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: and an entrepreneur. He was involved with Amway. He was
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: also involved with Oh my God, so many other type
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: of entrepreneurial things that you know African American men could
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: be at that time. And we would have discussions as
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• 39:31
  Speaker 1: twelve years old, so my dad is talking about, you know,
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: God intended for all of us to do as much
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: with our lives as we possibly could before we go
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: back to heaven, Okay, And so that included knowing that
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: if he puts seven streams in the garden, you can
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: have actually seven streams of income. And I learned that
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: at eleven and twelve years old, So it was automatic
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  Speaker 1: for me to think of more than one way of
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  Speaker 1: sustaining myself in life when I got out of college.
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  Speaker 1: But you have a brand, Yeah, I do brand and
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  Speaker 1: social media as a vocalist author. Even if I say
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: being a mom is a brand, yes it is. So
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: when you started looking for products that will match what
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• 40:33
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  Speaker 1: you know, my dad also said find something that you
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  Speaker 1: You know, I grew up with it. You know, was
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  Speaker 1: was raised in south central l A. There you go
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  Speaker 1: and ear his sociology degree from Columbia University. That's in
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: New York City, y'all. He was an all pro who
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: played ten years in the NFL for four different teams.
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  Speaker 1: He currently lives in Los Angeles with his wife and
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: son and a baby on the way. Because we read
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the books. If you read the book, you know about
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: that his daughter attends his daughter's oldest daughter attends uh
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: A Tract Scholarship. I believe at the University of Connecticut.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: He can find you can find him starring on Foxes
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  Speaker 1: TV show Speak for Yourself, co hosted by Marcellis Wiley,
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome the Money Making Conversation for the second time
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  Speaker 1: ch parents marcel Us Wildly. Man, that's love right there
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  Speaker 1: to eulogize. I take it, brother, Well, well, I obviould
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  Speaker 1: tell you some man Um. First of all, this you
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  Speaker 1: know your sociology degree. My mind was the sociology we
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: always got that. Let's let's let's talk a little bit
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: about that because I feel that because you've got a
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: degree in sociology, which is a plays a part in
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: your book, that that that really allowed you to tap
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: into what you see in everyday life and also how
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: you how you the person on the day. How is
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: important to getting that degree in sociology has been to
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: you for you, Yes, it's been critical because it's it's
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: a degree that gives you a universal understanding of people
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: and the patterns of life and what really shapes us
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: and influences us as as individuals. Um. You really learn
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: something that I think comes back from Biblical times. Where
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: there are more similarities than differences and everyone so I'm
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: able to find those commonalities and try to bring like
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: minds together even though we may have different experiences. So
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: the sociology background really points out those elements in our
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: everyday existence, whether it's going to the the grocery store,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: and why are certain items in the front and certain
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: items in the back. And when you open the magazine,
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: why do they have certain articles here and certain articles there?
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Every single facet of life someone that has studied that
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: behavior to try and have the most impact, the maximum impact.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm able to know some of those things. Yeah,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: and that's really amazing. Now, your book, that's why you
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: calling me. You know, I know we gotta love for
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: each other, but you call about this book. We gotta
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: sell some books. That's why I never shut up The Life,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Opinions and Unexpected Adventures of an NFL Outlet, My man,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: why did you write this book? I wrote this book
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: to inspire everyone, no matter what adversity they faced, no
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: matter what age group, what circumstances you come from. Uh
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: and simple. I'm a guy from Compton who whose mother
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: and father wanted a better life for me, and they
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: scraped together their pinions and took us from Compton to
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: South Central. And that may now say it seemed like
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: a huge leap to people, but you know, in our reality,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: it's crazy. My grandmother started this mindset. She moved from
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Watts in the sixties to Compton with the same mindset.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: She wanted a better life for her family. And my
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: my story is just the fork in the roll kid
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: who decided to use his talents to plant and plan
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: away out of the neighborhood, to give himself and his
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: family a chance to live a better life and better
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: experiences and circumstances. So I became very responsible for my talents.
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I didn't waste them, I didn't take them for granted.
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  Speaker 1: I try to maximize them and allow them to give
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  Speaker 1: me an opportunity to make it to to realize my dreams.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: And the reason I wrote the book is just simply
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I'm a kid who figured this out, made sure he
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: understood his identity, what his role was in the family,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: and took full advantage of it. And I want to
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: empower everyone in their circumstances, no matter how dire that
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: those circumstances may look, that you can become anything you
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: want and I know it sounds cliche, but trust me, man,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I am a walking, living existence of that same cliche.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to inspire others. Well you do that
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: for me, because it's really funny when I read the book,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Well you have me at that opening. You know, it's
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: funds day. They sent me a link to get the
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: book for free, right, and so I couldn't figure it out.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: And I read the opening where you were sitting in
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  Speaker 1: your house waiting to be called, and then then I
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: clicked a little part and read sample, and it just
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: took me to that point that was hold on, hold on,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: hold hold on, and I bought the book. I went
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: on and bought the book because first, first of all,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: you're my boy. Secondly, you had me in the beginning,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: so I had to read this book now. And so
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: so the things that this is the thing about it,
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: it was very selling because I come from the hood.
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: I grew up in Hereford, and just like your parents,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: they moved me to Northeast. And somebody said that wasn't
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: much of an upgrade, but they thought they wanted to
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: give me a better opportunity to succeed. But things that
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: the things that I stood out for me was that
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: you said, athletes took your athletics took you out. But
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: you're a very smart guy. Let's not unders say, oh
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: your intellect, your intelligence, your your ability to get grades
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: under in the circumstance. And that's what I think that
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: on our last call that we talked about, is that
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  Speaker 1: so many times standing in the hood, growing up in
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the hood, people only see one type of person. And
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: we know there are so many diamonds in the hood
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  Speaker 1: that can sometimes be you know, be damaged because of
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: the fact they're not giving the proper opportunity to see.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Sports gave you your opportunity and you got out and uh,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: and then you own this radio show talking about your
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: life ten years in NFL. You know, beautiful daughter who's
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: attending a tract scholarship at the University of Connecticut, a
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: wife who's a nurse anesthesiastic and it's theseus right. Yeah,
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I know, man, I was working with him, and I
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: was working with him, man. But but you know, you
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: don't even know that if you read the book, don't
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. You know that if you read
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: the book, you gotta read the book. But here's the
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: funny part. But in the beginning in the early parts
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: of the book, because I'm not gonna tell everybody book,
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: but there's certain things that you have to know about
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: this young man and in his journey. And it was
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: like when I was his sister. There used to they
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: used to come walk through school. They get beat up
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: every day from the fact they got beat up for
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: four straight weeks, okay. And in my when I was
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: growing up in the hood, it was this guy. This
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: guy would pass me down on the corner like I
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: like he like I was like he was the police
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: every day, our dread walking. I mean, see, at least
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: marcelis just telling his sister to go another way. She
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: wouldn't go another way. We're gonna walk down the street. See,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I tried to go on the way. He found me.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: He found me every time. So I found that so
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: relatable to to that. That's how the hood is. The
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: hood is is that either stand up and deal with
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: it or runaway and become a victim of it. And
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: that's and you never became a victim of it. And
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: that's why I really appreciate at the beginning of the book,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: and tell me about that there, brother, let me go
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: back to the beginning point. Uh yeah, my talente. When
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I say talente, I mean to plural one and two.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: My talents were academics and my talents were athletics. So
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: I was a very good football player, damn good, super
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: fast as a kid, and I was super smart, um smart,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: because I not so much. I was born a genius.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: But I was a kid in the front of the
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: class raising his hand asking why I was a curious kid.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: So I coupled my two talents, which was my academics
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: and athletics, and I decided to play the game of
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: life in a short and in a long game. My
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: short game was gonna play football. That was gonna be
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: my means to an end. A lot of people in
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: the hood look at sports and entertainment as the end game,
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, it's a means to an end. Um.
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