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FBI Dir. Wray Accused of COVERING for the Biden's Over Bribery Scheme plus If Elected, a Promise from Trump on Day 1 · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Would Hunter Biden be in jail years ago if he
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Speaker 1: were a Republican. Well, that is exactly what Ronda Santis,
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Speaker 1: Florida governor and now candidate for President of the United
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Speaker 1: States of America, has said, saying, Look, the federal investigation
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Speaker 1: of Hunter Biden is now in its fifth year, and
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Speaker 1: there is no doubt that if Hunter Biden were a Republican,
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Speaker 1: he'd already be in prison. Roda Santis is making it
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Speaker 1: clear what he thinks about this federal investigation to the
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Speaker 1: president's son, the Florida governor who announced he is in
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Speaker 1: this race, officially made the comments during a campaign stop
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Speaker 1: in Iowa. When asked about weaponize bureaucracy in Washington, d c.
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Speaker 1: He said, quote, we have a bureaucracy that our founding
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Speaker 1: fathers would find unrecognizable. It's an unaccountable, weaponized administrative state
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Speaker 1: that unevenly wields authority depending on its target, two different
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Speaker 1: sets of rules, depending on whether you're a member in
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Speaker 1: good standing of the elite society or not. He continued,
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Speaker 1: saying this, if Hunter were Republican, he would have been
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Speaker 1: in jail years ago. Now, this investigation has been taking
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Speaker 1: a long time, and Republicans in the House are asking
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Speaker 1: now a lot of questions. One of the people that's
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Speaker 1: demanding answers is James Comer. James Comer is now threatening
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Speaker 1: to hold the FBI Director, Christopher Ray in contempt for
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Speaker 1: not producing Hunter Biden documents. Now, these documents are extremely important,
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Speaker 1: and I want you to hear what was said on
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Speaker 1: Fox News about this with Jonathan Turley and the background
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Speaker 1: of why they want these documents.
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Speaker 2: Arthel.
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Speaker 3: We are now just two days away from a major
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Speaker 3: meeting about the Biden family business dealings. FBI Director Christopher
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Speaker 3: Ray is set to speak with houseover sde Committee Chairman
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Speaker 3: James Comer on Wednesday, that is, one day after the
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Speaker 3: deadline that Comer gave him to share an internal document.
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Speaker 3: A whistleblower claims that the document shows then Vice President
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Speaker 3: Biden was involved in a criminal scheme.
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Speaker 2: With a foreign national.
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Speaker 3: For more on this, joining us now is Jonathan Turley,
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Speaker 3: Bock News contributor and a g w U law professor
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Speaker 3: and a constitutional law attorney. Jonathan, thanks for your time today.
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Speaker 3: So look, this make is going to happen on Wednesday,
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Speaker 3: right after James Comer and Republicans were potentially pitching the
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Speaker 3: idea of holding Christopher Ray in contempt of Congress if
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Speaker 3: he didn't start cooperating. What do you think is going
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Speaker 3: to come out of this meeting, if anything.
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Speaker 4: Well, most expectations is that Ray is going to hold
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Speaker 4: the line and resist revealing this document. Their argument is
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Speaker 4: that this document contains the type of raw allegations that
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Speaker 4: come over the transom or through sources, sometimes anonymous sources.
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Speaker 4: The problem with the FBI's position is that it is
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Speaker 4: also being investigated that One of the concerns among many
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Speaker 4: in the American people is that they believe that the
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Speaker 4: FBI has been politically compromised for years, and polls indicate
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Speaker 4: that that is not changing. And whether you agree with
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Speaker 4: that or not, it suggests that your approach needs to change.
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Speaker 4: That is the only way to reverse those numbers is
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Speaker 4: to give greater transparency. There's another issue here that supports Congress.
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Speaker 4: You know, yes, the FBI investigates crime, but one of
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Speaker 4: the functions of the Congress in oversight is to look
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Speaker 4: at corruption that includes things that may not be criminal
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Speaker 4: but are corrupt. Influence peddling is the favorite form of
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Speaker 4: corruption in Washington, and in this case, the Bidens have
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Speaker 4: been accused of millions of dollars coming from foreign interests,
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Speaker 4: some closely associated with foreign intelligence. This document's part of
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Speaker 4: that investigation. I think that raise got to look at
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Speaker 4: that context and say, this is not the usual you know,
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Speaker 4: push and shove from Congress. There's a need here to
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Speaker 4: be more transparent.
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Speaker 1: There's a need here to be more transparent. The question
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Speaker 1: is will he be more transparent now. James Comber has
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Speaker 1: made it clear he's not putting up with this partisanism
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Speaker 1: any longer, and the chairman of the US House Oversight
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Speaker 1: Committee said this week that he is beginning the proceedings
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Speaker 1: to hold the FBI Director Christopher Ray, in contempt of
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Speaker 1: Congress for not producing a memo that is related to
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Speaker 1: the agency's investigation into President Joe Biden. Comber said the
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Speaker 1: FBI's decision to withhold the document is unacceptable after he
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Speaker 1: was told about it through a whistleblower, saying, quote today,
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Speaker 1: the FBI informed the committee that it will not provide
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Speaker 1: the unclassified documents. So these aren't even classified. These are
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Speaker 1: unclassified documents subpoenaed by the committee, basically saying subpoena by Congress.
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Speaker 1: The FBI's decision to stiff arm Congress and hide the
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Speaker 1: ass in firm from the American people is obstructionists and unacceptable. Now,
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Speaker 1: the House Oversight Committee has already been investigating President Biden,
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Speaker 1: and I want to be clear about how I describe
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Speaker 1: that President Biden. Yes, they're looking at his son's business
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Speaker 1: dealings in China, but they're looking at really whether President
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Speaker 1: Biden illegally or unethically benefited from these multi million dollar
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Speaker 1: transactions and his compromise because of them with different countries
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Speaker 1: that can include China, Russia, the list, Romania, Ukraine, the
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Speaker 1: list goes on and on. Quote. While I have a
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Speaker 1: call scheduled with FBI Director Ray to discuss his response further.
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Speaker 1: The Committee has been clear and its intent to protect
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Speaker 1: Congressional oversight authority and will now be taking steps to
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Speaker 1: hold the FBI director in contempt of Congress for refusing
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Speaker 1: to comply with a lawful subpoena America deserves the truth
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Speaker 1: in The Overite Committee will continue to demand transparency from
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Speaker 1: the nation's chief law enforcement agency. Now. Last month, James
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Speaker 1: Comber said the committee was investigating not one, not two,
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Speaker 1: not three, not four, not five, not six, not seven,
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Speaker 1: not eight, but nine Biden family members. Now let me
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Speaker 1: be clear, he said, the committee is investigating, We're not
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Speaker 1: naming nine that benefited financially that we know about from
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Speaker 1: these suspicious activity reports. He's now saying that they are
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Speaker 1: investigating the nine Biden family members after they received more
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Speaker 1: of the financial documents from the Treasury Department. James Comer
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Speaker 1: says the large sums were transferred from at least one
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Speaker 1: Chinese communist company that ended up in bank accounts controlled
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Speaker 1: by the Biden Nexus, saying, quote, thousands of pages of
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Speaker 1: financial records related to the Biden family, their companies and associates,
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Speaker 1: and the business schemes were made available to members of
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Speaker 1: the House Committee on Oversit in Account which confirm the
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Speaker 1: importance of this investigation. Comer went on to say, now
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Speaker 1: this is the reason why, and I go back to
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Speaker 1: Ronda Santis here. He understands that this is an election
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Speaker 1: your issue. He understands that it's important for this to
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Speaker 1: take place in a move forward. He also understands how
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Speaker 1: corrupt everything has been, and this is exactly why. The
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Speaker 1: former Attorney General Bill Barr said on Saturday at an
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Speaker 1: event that the Hunter Biden, the son of the President
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, is likely to face serious charges stemming from
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Speaker 1: a Department of Justice probe. The DOJ has conducted a
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Speaker 1: year long investigate, years long, four year and five year
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Speaker 1: long investigation on Hunter Biden for alleged tax offenses and
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Speaker 1: making false statements while purchasing a firearm. Barr, who was
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Speaker 1: serving as the AG when the investigation began, provided his
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Speaker 1: perspective on the investigation during an appearance on CBS News.
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Speaker 1: Barsity suspects a recent meeting between federal PROSSUS Delaware authorities
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Speaker 1: and Hunter Biden's attorneys indicate that the DOJ officials are
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Speaker 1: nearing a charging decision in that case. There's probably been
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Speaker 1: a lot of hand ringing in many different places, but
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Speaker 1: I assume that the defense went in there to try
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Speaker 1: to see what they think would be a way to
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Speaker 1: resolve this without serious charges against Hunter Biden, Bill Bar said,
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Speaker 1: I suspect they're going to be unsuccessful, quote unquote. Barr
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Speaker 1: also added that the case is likely taking a longer
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Speaker 1: time because the tax case against the President sun is complicated,
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Speaker 1: especially after they fired everybody that was investigating it, removed
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Speaker 1: them from it at the IRS. It requires work from
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Speaker 1: the IRS side, but also because the DOJ could be
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Speaker 1: probing the allegations of corruption lobbied against Hunter Biden by Republicans.
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Speaker 1: In addition to the DOJ probe, we also know that
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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden is facing legal scrutiny from House Republicans over
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Speaker 1: his foreign business dealings. GOP lawmakers have said that his
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Speaker 1: business dealings with foreign companies, including some associated with directly
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Speaker 1: with the CCP Chinese Communist Party while his father served
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Speaker 1: as a vice president from twenty and nine to twenty
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Speaker 1: seventeen under Barack Obama, should face investigations over their alleged corruption. Quote.
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Speaker 1: Bar said he shares concerns about abuses of power conducted
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Speaker 1: by Hunter Biden, but ultimately question whether he would ultimately
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Speaker 1: be found guilty in a court of law, saying this,
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Speaker 1: there's a difference between abuse of power, shameful behavior when
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Speaker 1: you're in power and so forth, and something that can
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Speaker 1: actually be proven as a crime. Bar said, I joined
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Speaker 1: the conclusion that there was a lot of shameful self
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Speaker 1: dealing and influence pedaling and so forth. I think the
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Speaker 1: American people should take note that should be explained and
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Speaker 1: shown to the American people. The questions whether you can
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Speaker 1: prove a crime is a different matter, which is exactly
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Speaker 1: why By the way, House Republicans are not focusing in
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Speaker 1: on Hunter Biden, using in on the president of the
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Speaker 1: It's pretty clear that James Comer is not messing around,
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Speaker 1: and he also explained to us why he wants this
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Speaker 1: piece of paper. It's not classified that the FBI Director
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Speaker 1: Christopher Ray is refusing to turn over. Now, the intel
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Speaker 1: they have to even know to ask for this piece
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Speaker 1: of paper was from a whistleblower. Here's what he had
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Speaker 1: to say on Fox News Channel with Sean Hannity. Listen.
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Speaker 5: So, but the ten twenty three is a confidential informant
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Speaker 5: that would give information that they would take it. Maybe
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Speaker 5: it's not fully corroborated. Now, the question is did they
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Speaker 5: do a full investment.
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Speaker 2: Mitigation A and B.
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Speaker 5: And secondly, if they feel or fear that this may
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Speaker 5: be made public, I'm sure you would agree to see
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Speaker 5: it in a skiff or a private setting. Would that
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Speaker 5: be fair?
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Speaker 2: That would be fair. But it's not classified.
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Speaker 6: So their argument that says they don't want to out
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Speaker 6: their inform it.
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Speaker 2: I agree with that one hundred percent.
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Speaker 6: There's a process in Washington tend to prevent that, and
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Speaker 6: that's called redacting the name of the informant. That solves
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Speaker 6: that if the informant's claim isn't legitimate, then again, why
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Speaker 6: are they worried about the informant? Look, we learned something
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Speaker 6: during the second conversation we had with people representing the FBA,
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Speaker 6: when they came in to talk to my staff.
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Speaker 2: We our specific request.
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Speaker 6: First of all, said we want any form ten twenty
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Speaker 6: three dated in August twenty twenty with the word Biden
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Speaker 6: on it. And you know what they came back and said, Sean,
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Speaker 6: They said, well, that would just be too many documents.
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Speaker 6: We can't positively prepare all that. So you know a
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Speaker 6: lot of bulb costen. What do you mean how many
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Speaker 6: ten twenty threes are there with the word Biden just
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Speaker 6: for one month in twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: Now, this is what we found with.
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Speaker 6: The Treasury with the suspicious activity ports. There were hundreds
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Speaker 6: of these indicating potential wrongdoing of the bidens with respect
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Speaker 6: to financial transactions. Now, the way that I understood the FBI,
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Speaker 6: there are multiple FOURM, ten twenty threes pertaining to Biden,
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Speaker 6: So we had to narrow the focus to say, okay,
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Speaker 6: Biden and the word five million dollars.
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Speaker 1: So let's just sit back and recap this for a moment.
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Speaker 1: The Justice Department does not deny the existence of this record.
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Speaker 1: The Justice Department says there's too many records that deal
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Speaker 1: with the Bidens during one month of a certain year,
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Speaker 1: which is shocking in itself. So they had to go
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Speaker 1: back and say, do you have any documents with Biden
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Speaker 1: and have five million involved? And that is exactly why
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Speaker 1: Comer says the FBI informed the committee that it will
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Speaker 1: not provide the unclassified documents subpoened by the committee and
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Speaker 1: the FBI's decision to stiff arm Congress and hide this
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Speaker 1: information for the American people as obstruction is and unacceptable. Now,
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Speaker 1: James Comer and Chris Ray do have a phone call
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Speaker 1: that is supposed to take place today. Comer was asked
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Speaker 1: about that, right, will you proceed to hold the FBI
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Speaker 1: and condemned to Congress or if you talk to him,
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Speaker 1: what's going to happen. Listen to his answer on that.
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Speaker 5: So you're going to hold direct Array in contempt. Is
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Speaker 5: that what you said, even though you have a scheduled
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Speaker 5: call with them, Where does it stand tonight?
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Speaker 2: Well, today was the deadline.
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Speaker 6: He was given three weeks to produce a document and
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Speaker 6: go into detail on what exactly they did to investigate
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Speaker 6: the validity of the document. But thus far he won't
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Speaker 6: even admit that they have the document. Sean, he's given
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Speaker 6: us the run around for three weeks. He's just stalling.
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Speaker 6: He said, there's good faith effort. They haven't produced anything.
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Speaker 6: They haven't even admitted they have a document, So we
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Speaker 6: don't have confidence and Director Array. We're already in the
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Speaker 6: process of drafting legislation to hold an Oversight Committee mark
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Speaker 6: up next week to hold FBI Director Ray in contempt
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Speaker 6: of Congress.
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Speaker 1: I don't blame him for this. Yeah, if you're going
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Speaker 1: to have a phone call with him, fine, But thousands
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Speaker 1: of pages of financial records right of the Biden family,
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Speaker 1: their comings and associate and their business schemes that have
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Speaker 1: been made available to Congress. They're finding stuff. Now you
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Speaker 1: got a whistleblower saying hey, you don't have it all.
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Speaker 1: Then they go to the FBI and they say, hey,
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Speaker 1: we need to look at this piece of paper, right,
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Speaker 1: and they say, no, we're not going to give it
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Speaker 1: to you. It's not even classified. Don't care because they're
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Speaker 1: protecting the Biden crime family. In other words, who gives
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Speaker 1: a crap if the FBI director has a scheduled phone
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Speaker 1: call with the House Oversite Committee Chairman James Comber discussed
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Speaker 1: the informant file. The informant file that allegedly accuses President
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Speaker 1: Biden of being part of a five million dollar bribery scheme.
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Speaker 1: Your response to subpoenas due by May thirtieth. You missed
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Speaker 1: the deadline, right, So fine, I'll take your phone call,
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Speaker 1: but you missed the deadline. We sent you a subpoena
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Speaker 1: for the information on May third, after the whistleblower contact
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Speaker 1: to Center Chuck Grassley about the document said to have
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Speaker 1: been created or modified on June thirtieth of twenty twenty.
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Speaker 1: The FBI last week releasing confidential source information could quote
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Speaker 1: jeopardize potentially investigations and put lives at risk potentially. I
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Speaker 1: love the FBI. At least they're consistent, right, can't show
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Speaker 1: you might someone might die. The FBI remains committed to
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Speaker 1: cooperating with Congress's oversight requests on this matter and others,
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Speaker 1: as we always have. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy also attempted
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Speaker 1: to help mediate the dispute with a May nineteenth call
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Speaker 1: to Christopher Ray said afterwards he thought the Bureau would comply, saying, quote,
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Speaker 1: the fbis continue to tie itself in k nots to
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Speaker 1: ignore a legitimate subpoena from Congress, which has a constitutional
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Speaker 1: duty of oversight. That's what Chuck Grassley said last week.
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Speaker 1: The bureaus developed a serious reputation problem through its spats
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Speaker 1: of failure and overreach, and leadership is going doing itself
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Speaker 1: no favors by attempting to stiff arm Congress again. The
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Speaker 1: longtime sinator said he's angry because exquissleb or Protection Caucus
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Speaker 1: co chairman, it understands these people are putting their careers
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Speaker 1: at risk every time they are forced to come forward.
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Speaker 1: The FBI knows exactly what document Chairman Comber and I
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Speaker 1: are seeking, and if they know us at all, they
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Speaker 1: know we will get it one way or another. If
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Speaker 1: FBI leadership truly cares about protecting the agency's reputation, they'd cooperate.
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Speaker 1: James Comer in the House side grass on the Senate
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Speaker 1: side have not publicly discussed major details of bribery allegation,
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Speaker 1: such as specifying which country or US policy decisions were
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Speaker 1: involved or manipulated due to the payoff. Congress, by the way,
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Speaker 1: has many tools to force the executive branch agencies that
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Speaker 1: comply with subpoenas, including litigation and withholding funding. In addition
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Speaker 1: to contempt votes, which generally are used to shame subjects,
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Speaker 1: it's possible for lawmakers to impeach officials like Christopher Ray. During,
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Speaker 1: by the way, the immediate after math of the vice presidency,
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden interacted with his son Hunter Biden and his
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Speaker 1: brother James Biden's associates in China, Mexico, Kazakhstan, Russia, Ukraine,
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Speaker 1: Romania that according to files from Hunter Biden's laptop, he
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Speaker 1: even appeared to be penciled in for a ten percent
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Speaker 1: cut of the Chinese government link age energy deal under
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Speaker 1: negotiation seventeen that didn't pay out until right after he
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Speaker 1: left the Vice presidential office. You've got to understand here,
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Speaker 1: we've got whistleblowers who now feel comfortable to come forward.
19:11
Speaker 1: We have the irs whistleblower, Gary Shapley, who oversaw the
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Speaker 1: tax fraud investigation of Hunter Biden since twenty twenty. He
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Speaker 1: testified Friday to the Housewaves and Means Committee about alleged
19:22
Speaker 1: preferential treatment in the five year old investigation. The primary
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Speaker 1: IRS case agent on that investigation since it opened in
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Speaker 1: eighteen came forward last week to back up his boss
19:33
Speaker 1: after the IRS I May the fifteenth to remove the
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Speaker 1: thirteen people that were investigating. They were the thirteen person
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Speaker 1: investigative team in alleged retribution for him contacting Congress. FBI
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Speaker 1: agents assigned to the investigation also reportedly are frustrated by
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Speaker 1: the lack of charges after computing most of their work
19:52
Speaker 1: on the case, not this year, but last year. Time
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Speaker 1: and time again. The Democrats keep winning. And the reason
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Speaker 1: why is because they never are held accountable and they
20:01
Speaker 1: apparently never have to play by the rules. That's the
20:05
Speaker 1: problem here, and we better wake up and understand we
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Speaker 1: have an opportunity. And James Comer and Jim Jordan are
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Speaker 1: doing an amazing job with this, Chuck Grassley doing an
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Speaker 1: amazing job with this, but other Republicans need to understand.
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Speaker 1: Now it's very clear, it's very very clear from these
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Speaker 1: whistleblowers that all this was going on James Comer also
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Speaker 1: said this about Joe Biden, saying, Joe Biden lied to
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Speaker 1: the American people. Listen to this where he had say,
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Speaker 1: Maria Bartromo.
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Speaker 6: There are a lot of obstacles, but I think what
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Speaker 6: we produced this week, this thirty eight page memorandum, was
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Speaker 6: pretty solid evidence that we've been able to accumulate, showing
20:45
Speaker 6: that Joe Biden lied when he said his family never
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Speaker 6: took money from China, showing that the media got it
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Speaker 6: wrong when they said none of these payments were ever
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Speaker 6: made while Joe Biden was in office, and then naming
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Speaker 6: nine bad Biden family members that received money. None of
20:58
Speaker 6: this was ever known before, so we presented the media
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Speaker 6: with something they weren't used to, especially when Adam Schiff
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Speaker 6: was leaving the investigations.
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Speaker 2: We produced evidence.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they have produced evidence, and now it's time for
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Speaker 1: and I'm going to read you the headline first and
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Speaker 1: connects very much to this headline. The headline is this.
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Speaker 1: I love this headline. By the way Donald Trump pledges
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Speaker 1: to end birthright citizenship on first day in office. That
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Speaker 1: apparently is now evil and bigoted and racist everything you
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Speaker 1: would expect. In fact, now the media is saying that
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Speaker 1: both DeSantis standing up for our borders and Trump, they
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Speaker 1: now say, are identical and now it's just a race
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Speaker 1: for who is more xenophobic than the other, because they
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Speaker 1: actually want to stand up for an America First policy. They're
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Speaker 1: also angry in the media that people like Chris Christy,
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Speaker 1: who are looking at this race and saying, look at me,
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Speaker 1: look at me, right for me, I might be the
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Speaker 1: great guy that you should get behind. They're angry that
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Speaker 1: they're not showing up in the polling at all. They're
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Speaker 1: basically a joke. Take a listen to this as they're
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Speaker 1: giving you their expertise on CNN.
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Speaker 2: It shows that.
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Speaker 7: The true state of the Republican Party is maga. There
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Speaker 7: are not two dual parties here. There's not two wings.
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Speaker 2: There is just.
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Speaker 7: MAGA and extreme MAGA. And you see that clearly playing
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Speaker 7: out in the polls, with people like Christie purporting to
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Speaker 7: be moderates, purporting to be part.
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Speaker 2: Of the normal wing of the Republican.
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Speaker 7: Party, getting hardly any support in the actual data.
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Speaker 1: Now, I love the fact that they're describing the Republican
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Speaker 1: Party as the part you MAGA an ultra MAGA make
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Speaker 1: America great again. If that's who we are. I have
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Speaker 1: no issues with it. I also love the fact that
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Speaker 1: they think the Republican Party should be Chris Christie and
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Speaker 1: they're angry that it's not. That also tells you everything
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Speaker 1: you need to know about how successful we are right now.
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Speaker 1: We don't want Chris Christy to be showing up in
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Speaker 1: the polls, the same way that we don't want Jeb
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Speaker 1: Bush to be showing up in the polls. The last
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Speaker 1: thing we want is for these idiots to show up
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Speaker 1: in the polls.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: I do believe we have to reach out in a
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Speaker 1: general election, and I don't want there to be a
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Speaker 1: blood bath and a just massive feeding frenzy between Ron
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Speaker 1: DeSantis and Donald Trump. As I said the other day,
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Speaker 1: I'm happy with both candidates, and whoever gets the nomination,
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Speaker 1: I will happily support. What I don't want to happen
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Speaker 1: is for these morons to convince America that a guy
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Speaker 1: like Chris Christy deserves your vote when clearly he doesn't. Now,
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Speaker 1: let me go back to the headline, by the way,
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Speaker 1: and this is again an American first policy. Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: is pledging ten birthright citizenship on first in office. Immediately
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Speaker 1: they screen that's racist, is in a phobia, YadA YadA.
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Speaker 1: But what the former president is doing is he's returning
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Speaker 1: to his calls he's made these before to remove birthright
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Speaker 1: citizenship with his twenty twenty four White House campaign announcing
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Speaker 1: this week he would seek to end it via executive
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Speaker 1: order on the first and in office now. Trump announced his
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Speaker 1: plan on the twenty fifth anniversary of the United States
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Speaker 1: versus Wong Kim arc that's the Supreme Court case that
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Speaker 1: established the constitutional right to birthright citizenship. The proposal echoes
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Speaker 1: a long time demand of immigration restrictions and and measure
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Speaker 1: Trump touted while in office, attracting criticism from both immigration
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Speaker 1: advocates as well as legal experts. Now, the latest that
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Speaker 1: we now know is most experts say that a present
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Speaker 1: does not have the authority to end birthright citizenship through
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Speaker 1: an executive order, primarily because the practice is enshrined in
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Speaker 1: the Constitution. They claim the Fourteenth Amendment grand citizenship citizenship
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Speaker 1: to those born or naturalized in the United States of
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Speaker 1: America and subject to the jurisdiction thereof. The widely accepted
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Speaker 1: interpretation of that amendment that it applies to children born
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Speaker 1: in the United States of America regardless of the parents.
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Speaker 1: Immigration status has held since the eighteen ninety eighth Supreme
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Speaker 1: Court case involving a US citizen with Chinese parents. The
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Speaker 1: Fourteenth Amendment was adopted after the Civil War to guarantee
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Speaker 1: equal rights for former slaves. Immigration restrictions argue that excludes
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Speaker 1: the children of other groups, like undocumented immigrants, from its benefit.
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Speaker 1: As a member of the Reconstruction Congress explained in eighteen
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Speaker 1: sixty six, exception to birthright citizenship applies only to the
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Speaker 1: children of diplomats and those born into Native American tribes
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Speaker 1: who were under the jurisdiction of a separate sovereign and
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Speaker 1: did not need to comply with all US laws, wrote
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Speaker 1: Amanda Frost, a professor of law at the University of Virginia,
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Speaker 1: an author of quote you are not America citizenship, stripping
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Speaker 1: from dread Scott to the Dreamers now. In contrast, immigrants
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Speaker 1: and their children living the United States of America were
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Speaker 1: and are required to follow all federal and state laws
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Speaker 1: or face criminal and civil penalties, and so are fully
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Speaker 1: subject to the nation's jurisdictions. According to Trump campaign, the
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Speaker 1: executive order, they say, will explain the clear meaning of
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Speaker 1: the Fourteenth Amendment, which it says is that the children
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Speaker 1: of foreign nationals born in the United States of America
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Speaker 1: are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States
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Speaker 1: as defined in the Constitution now. During Trump's term in office,
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Speaker 1: a draft executive order to that effect was circulated, and
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Speaker 1: the idea was revised shortly after Trump lost to President
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Speaker 1: Biden in the twenty twenty election. But Trump had floated
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Speaker 1: inning birthright citizenship earlier in his presidency. In fact, in
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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, he said in an Axis interview that he
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Speaker 1: planned to issue an executive order inning birthright citizenship, setting
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Speaker 1: off a political firestorm. It was always told to me
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Speaker 1: that you needed a constitutional amendment. Guess what you don't,
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Speaker 1: Trump said at the time. While executive order altering the
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Speaker 1: interpretation of the Fourteenth Amendment would likely face many legal challenges,
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Speaker 1: his proponents sought to take the case to the courts
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Speaker 1: and hoping of getting a favorable Supreme Court outcome. Supporters
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Speaker 1: of the measure also say that they're betting basically on
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Speaker 1: a judicial revocation of birthright citizenship. Quote. This will set
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Speaker 1: up the court fight, the order will be enjoined, case
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Speaker 1: will be eventually reached the Supreme Court which then will
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Speaker 1: finally have to rule on the meaning of subject to
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Speaker 1: the jurisdiction. That's what the executive director of the Center
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Speaker 1: for Immigration Studies, A restrictionist group is how the liberal
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Speaker 1: media calls them. That calls for massive reductions in immigration.
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Speaker 1: Now Trump has made it clear that he is trying
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Speaker 1: to secure the southern border, and just like in twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 1: Trump has sought to make immigration board security a top
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Speaker 1: campaign issue, as he should. In its release this week,
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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign dove into the fight over the meaning
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Speaker 1: of jurisdiction and claim that the United States has become
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Speaker 1: one of the few countries in the world to extend
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Speaker 1: citizenship to the children of illegal aliens, even if both
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Speaker 1: parents are not citizens nor even legally present in the
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Speaker 1: United States of America. Now, let me be clear, I
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Speaker 1: don't know if Donald Trump would win this one. I
29:45
Speaker 1: do think it's important to understand what he's trying to accomplish,
29:50
Speaker 1: and the agenda here is one that we need to understand.
29:54
Speaker 1: The agenda of the president is let's go out and
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Speaker 1: fight on every one of these issues. Let's make sure
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Speaker 1: that we don't back down. Let's make sure that we
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Speaker 1: are standing here and making it clear what we believe in,
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Speaker 1: why we believe, and let's challenge any area where there
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Speaker 1: is a gray area if it comes to securing our
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Speaker 1: southern border. That's what he's trying to do here. The
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Speaker 1: other problem is, we know that people are abusing this rule.
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Speaker 1: We know that people are coming across the border illegally
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Speaker 1: at the very last second, and then they're having children
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Speaker 1: in this country. And they're doing it because then they
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Speaker 1: know that they've got an anchor to become a citizen here.
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Speaker 1: They know they're much less likely to be kicked out right,
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Speaker 1: much much much less likely to be kicked out of
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Speaker 1: this country if they have a child in this country.
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Speaker 1: They're betting on all of this, Okay, Like this is
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Speaker 1: their thing. This is what they're betting on. This is
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Speaker 1: what they're hoping is going to happen. There's also one
30:57
Speaker 1: other point I want to make, and that's about the media.
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Speaker 1: The media he is not reporting this story accurately. If
31:04
Speaker 1: you actually listen to what Donald Trump said pledging this
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Speaker 1: executive order on day one of his presidency to end
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Speaker 1: birthright citizenship for legal aliens, he says, clearly this is
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Speaker 1: part of his entire basically immigration, secure our border, plan.
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Speaker 1: It's not one thing by itself out there isolated. They're
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Speaker 1: not telling you that. So I will listen to Trump
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Speaker 1: in his own words.
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Speaker 8: Part of my plan to secure the border on day one.
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Speaker 1: Did you hear that? Part of my plan to secure
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Speaker 1: the border on day one? Did the media tell you that? No,
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Speaker 1: they just come out. They're like, the courts are gonna
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Speaker 1: stop him. He can't do this. He's wrong. He's a lunatic,
31:39
Speaker 1: he's xenophobic, he's a racist, he's a bigot. No, they
31:43
Speaker 1: take it out of context, of course, because he says
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Speaker 1: part of my plan day one is secure a border, right,
31:48
Speaker 1: part of our plan. And if you missed it, if
31:49
Speaker 1: you don't believe it, here it is again.
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Speaker 8: It's part of my plan to secure the border.
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Speaker 9: On day one my new term in office, I will
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Speaker 9: sign an executive order making clear to federal agencies that,
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Speaker 9: under the correct interpretation of the law going forward, the
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Speaker 9: future children of illegal aliens will not receive automatic US citizenship.
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Speaker 9: It's things like this that bring millions of people to
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Speaker 9: our country, and they enter our country illegally. My policy
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Speaker 9: will choke off a major incentive for continued illegal immigration,
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Speaker 9: deter more migrants from coming and encourage many of the
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Speaker 9: aliens Joe Biden is unlawfully led into our country to
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Speaker 9: go back to their home countries.
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Speaker 8: They must go back.
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Speaker 9: Nobody could afford this, nobody could do this, and even morally,
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Speaker 9: it's so wrong. My order will also end their unfair
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Speaker 9: practice known as birth tourism, where hundreds of thousands of
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Speaker 9: people from all over the planet squad and hotels for
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Speaker 9: there last few weeks at pregnancy.
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Speaker 8: To illegitimately and illegally obtain you a.
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Speaker 9: Citizenship for the child of to later exploit chain migration
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Speaker 9: to jump the line and get green cards for themselves
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Speaker 9: and their family members. It's a practice that's so horrible
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Speaker 9: and so egregious, but we let it go forward. At
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Speaker 9: least one parent will have to be a citizen or
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Speaker 9: a legal resident in order to qualify. We will secure
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Speaker 9: our borders and we will restore or sovereignty. Starting on
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Speaker 9: day one, our country will be great again. Our country
33:29
Speaker 9: will be a country again. We'll have borders, we'll have
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Speaker 9: proper education, and we'll put America first.
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Speaker 1: If you put it in contact sounds pretty reasonable to me,
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