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Kardea Brown, Jeff Clanagan, Terri Denison & Cheryl McKissack Daniel · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: He's a graduate of the University of Washington before he
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Speaker 1: attended Harvard Business School and this prestigious executive program. I
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Speaker 1: have known him for over two decades. We go all
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Speaker 1: the way back to the Masterpe days, and I've received
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Speaker 1: industry awards like the Pioneer Award from the African American
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Speaker 1: Film Critics Association, the Game Change Your Achieving Award from
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Speaker 1: Enterprires Top fifty Power Brokers. He is the president of
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Speaker 1: Cold Black Films, Laugh Out Loud and Heartbeat Digital. That's
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Speaker 1: Kevin Hart. Please, welcome to Money Making Conversation. I called
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Speaker 1: him a dear friend because he really is. Jeff Clanagan,
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Speaker 1: thanks for shing. And first I want to say congratulations
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Speaker 1: on two years with the show. Um the various grace. No,
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Speaker 1: he's given out a lot of good information that people
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Speaker 1: really needs to people. A lot of people need directions,
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Speaker 1: especially if you're being an entrepreneurs. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: say first congrats on the show. Well, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 1: It's been amazing man, because uh, you know, I started
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Speaker 1: to showing the humbug just six weeks of promotion. You
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Speaker 1: came on my show, supported me and uh and just
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Speaker 1: just showed me. And that was at the early stages
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Speaker 1: of developing the whole digital platform for Kevin Hart and uh,
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Speaker 1: laugh out Loud, where are we at and all that,
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Speaker 1: because I know at the time you're about to give
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Speaker 1: his own XM channel and all those things. So where
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Speaker 1: are we at? And just update me a little bit
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Speaker 1: on what what's happening in the Kevin Hart world and
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Speaker 1: also the cold black world. So the Kevin Hart world
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Speaker 1: where I'm involved is really his his digital platforms, and
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Speaker 1: the laugh Out Loud is a digital that. Now when
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Speaker 1: I say digital, here's a thing reality, digital space, or
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Speaker 1: what let's call it, the streaming space terms with everybody
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Speaker 1: has heard everything, but the model, the business model changed everything.
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Speaker 1: So when you start out, when we started out a
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Speaker 1: couple of years ago, the models entirely changed. When we
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Speaker 1: started out, it was gonna be subscription video on the
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Speaker 1: map with sscriptions like Netflix, you pay five, nine and
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Speaker 1: nine for the bed. But now what's happening. You've got Netflix, Hulu, Amazon,
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Speaker 1: You've got Disney coming to the game, You've got Warner.
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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, consumers always be subscribed
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Speaker 1: to sell men subscriptions, and so so what's happened is
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Speaker 1: there's been a literally in the last three to four months,
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Speaker 1: there's been a huge ship towards advertising video on the matter,
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Speaker 1: which is for the consumer is good news because that
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Speaker 1: means you get to watch content for free. Now there
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Speaker 1: are ads that are fed not in not in the
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Speaker 1: same rate or matter that you see on traditional linear
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Speaker 1: tiv But the model is now a bod what we
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Speaker 1: call it linear digital because it's not it's not on
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Speaker 1: linear televi. It's still streamed through the Internet. But there
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Speaker 1: are these platforms like if you got Voodoo or Roku
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Speaker 1: or Pluto or two Be, you have these platforms that
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Speaker 1: are embedded in flat televisions and then you can take
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Speaker 1: a choose where you want to watch the past. So
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Speaker 1: our model right now from a distribution is where locking
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Speaker 1: and distribution with all of these platform because that's where
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Speaker 1: the the new strategy is gonna be at. And what
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Speaker 1: you aggravate all those different platforms. You can reach anywhere
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Speaker 1: people in the same way the traditional cable pass right,
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Speaker 1: but you're selling it cost per point and advertising things
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Speaker 1: like that. It really is, it really is amazing because
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Speaker 1: I remember when, uh, when Jeff and I when you
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Speaker 1: first was talking about the launch, he said, I I
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Speaker 1: seen him some some shows I created, and then all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden when the show launched, I didn't hit
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Speaker 1: his age demo because you, like I said, it just
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Speaker 1: keeps shifting and then it became a subscription base. Now
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Speaker 1: but now, now does that mean now that you have
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Speaker 1: a sales team tied to the to the brand. But yes,
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Speaker 1: because now our sales team though what we do is
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Speaker 1: god self very targeted brand partnerships. So for example, our
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Speaker 1: biggest show, which is the biggest literally the biggest show
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Speaker 1: sports show on the internet, as Cold as Boggs Kevin,
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Speaker 1: the interview show that's tied to a that's tied to
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Speaker 1: a brand, Old Spice, So there was a direct relations
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Speaker 1: for the Old Spice that came on as a presenter
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Speaker 1: for the show. And we've had other brands tied into
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Speaker 1: it like we also we just did it. We just
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Speaker 1: roll out of campaign with a T T. So we're
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Speaker 1: doing branded campaign. But when we're on these advertising video
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Speaker 1: demand platforms, they have their own cell team and they're
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Speaker 1: feeding their own asps. So our job which is which
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Speaker 1: is great it's really just to drive eyeballs to our content,
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Speaker 1: which is something we you know, we're very good at
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Speaker 1: doing right or the very that's really a divisionary part
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Speaker 1: of out of You, you know, because I know that
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Speaker 1: first of all, just tells about Jim very humble, low key,
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Speaker 1: always thinking, always thinking. I know that my relationships started
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Speaker 1: with master people that picked back up from Steve Harvey
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Speaker 1: because he was the first one that understood the value
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Speaker 1: of stand up comedy and started knocking on all the
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Speaker 1: stand up comics doors and saying, hey, you should do
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Speaker 1: a DVD special, You should do DV comedy special, and
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Speaker 1: that really laid the groundwork for you starting to get
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Speaker 1: content right said that, starting to do those specials, and
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Speaker 1: then right at the cup of you know, when we started,
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Speaker 1: I think our first one with Steve, I think that
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Speaker 1: was a VHS, but we quickly moved at the DVD.
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Speaker 1: But being right there when the whole DV phenomenon started,
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Speaker 1: So I kind of like it right now is right
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Speaker 1: now streaming is the new is the new DVD? Because
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Speaker 1: how how are you delivering content directly to the somewhere
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Speaker 1: and it's to a streaming platform. Now, He's the interesting
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Speaker 1: part because it's it's so funny because I can just
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Speaker 1: see us crossing platform eras because vhs, because we were
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Speaker 1: still doing we would go to like a record stores
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Speaker 1: and I remember We're going to Chicago and and it
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Speaker 1: was doing the record stores up there to to push
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Speaker 1: out the vhs and also to push out the DVD
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Speaker 1: when it came out. And so now the fact that
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Speaker 1: and it's not that long ago, it's really it's not
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Speaker 1: that long ago that all this was happening. The fact
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Speaker 1: that now you know, everything is tied to streaming and
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Speaker 1: the and the farms, the competitioners so incredible. That's what
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Speaker 1: you're saying is that you know we could charge, but
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Speaker 1: then you're competing with so many people who have giant
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Speaker 1: promotional buckets where they can just keep selling and selling
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Speaker 1: and selling, and it can tell people just undervalue your
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Speaker 1: opportunities that would be available on your digital platform. Correct, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: that that is act. Here's here's an inside you know
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Speaker 1: the interesting about Hollywood. You know you're looking at the
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Speaker 1: trades every day and read knowledge articles. Everybody's talking about
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Speaker 1: spots giming. What they don't do is you've traveled. I traveled.
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Speaker 1: Do you know what it's like in Middle America, you
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Speaker 1: been a Tosa, Oklahoma, three Port, Louisia, and that we
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Speaker 1: kind of have an understanding of what the consumers appetite
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Speaker 1: or now they're not reading all these articles and stuff
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Speaker 1: just coming out. So when you start bombarding them with uh,
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Speaker 1: whol plus netflex also they're going, wait, wait, wait, I
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Speaker 1: got a cable, I got grabbitis I watched my brother
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Speaker 1: Because it's too much for Middle American. That's where I
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Speaker 1: think the f body subscription is going to plow that
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Speaker 1: because it's a bunch of executives in tech companies in
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Speaker 1: the Bay Area, in l A, Boston, New York talking
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Speaker 1: about this and we're rolling our streaming, We're rolling our
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Speaker 1: stream but they really are not in touch with the
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Speaker 1: consumer or Middle American terms of what acts me is
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Speaker 1: that consumers that are subscribed to how many how many
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Speaker 1: subscriptions is that going to person have because it's not
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Speaker 1: just the TV stuff. It's like that person may be
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Speaker 1: subscribing to Spotify for their music or or something else
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Speaker 1: the success so there's more than it's more than just
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Speaker 1: see streaming content because there's other subscriptions that that person
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Speaker 1: is probably subscribing to. That's that's really I always enjoyed
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Speaker 1: talking to Jeffer because I know that well here and
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Speaker 1: I really can talk about the business side and also
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Speaker 1: talk about the visionary opportunities that are out there. But
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Speaker 1: the one thing you have to realize is that you
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Speaker 1: have to be ready for change. And that's all you're saying.
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Speaker 1: And this then this first break is that, Hey, you
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Speaker 1: can't be locked down saying I'm gonna be a die hard.
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Speaker 1: I'm a subscription guy. This is where we're gonna ride
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Speaker 1: it out. This has been my business model. You have
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Speaker 1: to have a flexible business model. Correct said that. That
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Speaker 1: is my motto. The model half and you can't be
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Speaker 1: afraid the move. You cannot be afraid to move away
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Speaker 1: from what you started doing because the market and the
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Speaker 1: consumer is gonna base the drive your business model. I'm
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Speaker 1: like the consumer controls your brand because the consumer is
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Speaker 1: going to tell you what they want, how they feel
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Speaker 1: about your brand, and how they want to consume content,
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Speaker 1: and you cannot dictate or change becausummer the advertising it
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Speaker 1: is no longer one way like it used to be.
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Speaker 1: The consumer is going to tell you how they want
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Speaker 1: their content. You gotta be flexible with your model now
10:41
Speaker 1: you've got a couple of upcoming and original productions, and
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Speaker 1: you have some projects in development. Tell us about those
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Speaker 1: Cold as Balls, What the Fit, dars Pain, and fly Girl. Okay,
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Speaker 1: so like you quiet coming up under which you're Kevin
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Speaker 1: Hart branded or under laugh allowed is we're doing the
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Speaker 1: second season of What the Fit, which makes your show
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Speaker 1: um entertainment show with Kevin and celebrities, and that's gonna
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Speaker 1: that's a YouTube. That's a YouTube original productions only one
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Speaker 1: of I think they only have three original productions going.
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Speaker 1: It's a big production which shed like budgets. So that's
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Speaker 1: the next thing. We're shooting that in September and they
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Speaker 1: we're also suitting our next cycle of Cold and Balls
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Speaker 1: in August, which actually we gotta get Sev Smith. So
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Speaker 1: those are the next two Kevin Hart Um this little
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Speaker 1: whose shows live on YouTube though a very YouTube specific
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Speaker 1: on the Fizzure film side the part the two products
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Speaker 1: most excited about, you can I haven't really got shoes
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Speaker 1: in my career produced these kind of projects. Is I
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Speaker 1: have the life story right And if you're listening, you
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Speaker 1: could just google her. Her name is Doris Paints. He's
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Speaker 1: in the Tories, Judicy chiefs, probably eighty eight years old. Now,
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Speaker 1: Um and she she was a jewel thief. She went
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Speaker 1: she she went around the world and stole millions of domonds.
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Speaker 1: And she and she and she started it because of
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Speaker 1: um It was an impulse, because of her economic because
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Speaker 1: she this is back in like in the in the
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Speaker 1: fifties and sixties. It's Testa Thompson is the past the
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Speaker 1: star in it. That's that's the one. I'm really excited
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Speaker 1: because there's a lot of bugs on it, Like I said,
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Speaker 1: Thompson coming out, George, Hey, you'll see all kind of
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Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff on her. Really really well, now
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Speaker 1: now I got a minute left here. Fly Girl. Now
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Speaker 1: I've been knowing a boy fly Girl actually was approached
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Speaker 1: to do fly Girl. That's been out there. That's that's
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Speaker 1: been out there for a minute. How did you gain
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Speaker 1: possession of that project and what's the future of it?
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Speaker 1: Um so basy I was able to go after the
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Speaker 1: book series is a three book series and books and
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Speaker 1: went through out of develvernment. We had, we went through
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Speaker 1: a lot of scripts kind of figure out what to
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Speaker 1: do with it. So at this point right now we're
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Speaker 1: developing into its trilogy. We're probably going to do it
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Speaker 1: as a TV trilogy movie or seriously, because we have
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Speaker 1: a lot of the streamers that are interested in because
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Speaker 1: of the success of the book sales, and that's the
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Speaker 1: direction we're going with it right now. Right well, my man, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: appreciate you. I know you pulled on the side of
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Speaker 1: the road doing your thing. I'll be out in the
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Speaker 1: l a uh next week actually because I'm doing you
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19:00
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19:03
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19:35
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19:59
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20:53
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20:55
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21:49
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22:43
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Speaker 1: like my nephew in Houston, when Hrrickane Harvey came through,
22:55
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24:53
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Speaker 1: of the best food I've eaten, it's in Charles and Whole,
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Speaker 1: South Carolina. Got it going on with some girl and
28:14
Speaker 1: her passion for cooking started with her grandmother and her
28:17
Speaker 1: grandmother's kitchen. She's the host of two new shows on
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Speaker 1: the Food Network, The cup The Cupcake Championship and Delicious
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Speaker 1: Miss Brown, Please Welcome the Money made a conversation for
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Speaker 1: the very first Food Network star, Cardier Brown. Thanks for
28:35
Speaker 1: having me come on now. I'm happy to have you.
28:40
Speaker 1: I've watched your video. Girl. Miss Brown tells Aboutrisha mcdonh.
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Speaker 1: You know I love to eat. So you can't come
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Speaker 1: on the shelf humble about your abilities because I've seen it.
28:51
Speaker 1: So I'm not just gonna let somebody down there that
28:53
Speaker 1: that act like they can cook. I've seen videos. I
28:55
Speaker 1: followed your career. See people see I'm gonna eat it.
28:59
Speaker 1: You laugh. Let me tell you something about meat. Now,
29:02
Speaker 1: nobody comes on this show who can't cook, who act
29:05
Speaker 1: like they can cook? No, because I can cook, I
29:08
Speaker 1: can do the greens. To the child List, to the
29:10
Speaker 1: child List, to the steaks. Okay, okay, I know I
29:15
Speaker 1: wake you up, but I throw down coming out. I
29:18
Speaker 1: know you can do that. And time to wake you
29:19
Speaker 1: up and let you know who you were talking to.
29:22
Speaker 1: I know you're famous and all you get these people
29:25
Speaker 1: who you can oh, you know they don't even read
29:28
Speaker 1: your bio really well. They you know, they just talking
29:30
Speaker 1: about the show. I'm a fan of you, miss Brown. Okay,
29:34
Speaker 1: so let's get that. Just get that all out the
29:38
Speaker 1: way now I can. I got I gotta. I got
29:43
Speaker 1: an app. It's called Perfect Bait. I got eighty recipes.
29:47
Speaker 1: It's from a Southern step. You know. I do the bait.
29:50
Speaker 1: But now to put okay, you know what I'm talking about.
29:55
Speaker 1: That refrigerated you know, it's the old school. That's the
30:01
Speaker 1: way my great grandmother used to make it. She put
30:04
Speaker 1: the great grandmother on what I'm saying. I got history
30:07
Speaker 1: in my paper. I do the German sidekick, No, no,
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Speaker 1: don't mess with me. All the way around top and bottom,
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Speaker 1: this side land in between. I gotta have my German
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Speaker 1: clock of ice. It that's old school. That's if going
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Speaker 1: over Europe. They just put it on top makes me man,
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Speaker 1: makes me Ma, makes me man. So now you almost
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Speaker 1: show the day for the very first time, and I'm
30:35
Speaker 1: so happy that he was able to take the time.
30:37
Speaker 1: It's brown to come on my show. Now the cup
30:39
Speaker 1: that started with the first show, because the second show,
30:42
Speaker 1: the Delationship is brown. We're gonna talk about that for
30:45
Speaker 1: a minute, because I pulled four of the episodes. I
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Speaker 1: pulled the information about it because I want to talk
30:52
Speaker 1: about the shrimp Fast. Oh lord, the Sunday dinner. Oh look,
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Speaker 1: so we're gonna move down just sitting there about up
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Speaker 1: for the food we're gonna talk about later on because
31:03
Speaker 1: we don't talk about dessert front. Is that all right
31:05
Speaker 1: with you? That's fine with me. Now talk about the
31:09
Speaker 1: Cupcake Championship. What exactly is that? So Cupcake Championship is
31:16
Speaker 1: a I don't know if you remember a few years
31:18
Speaker 1: ago they Food Network had a few shows on Cupcake
31:21
Speaker 1: Wars Cupcake champions So it's like a revamp of that
31:25
Speaker 1: because cupcakes are really popular um during that time, and
31:30
Speaker 1: so it kind of went away for a while that
31:32
Speaker 1: that went down. Now cupcakes are really popular again. So
31:35
Speaker 1: Cupcake Championship is basically a revamping of that where world
31:40
Speaker 1: class cupcakers come together. We call it the Cupcake Battle round,
31:44
Speaker 1: and they do too. They have to um rounds. First
31:48
Speaker 1: round is the Designer Challenge. In the second round is
31:52
Speaker 1: the Imagination Challenge, where they just do things with cupcakes.
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Speaker 1: I had never seen before. These these contestants were absolutely
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Speaker 1: amazing and they make they make tableaus that are just
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Speaker 1: larger than life. They make one thing. One of the
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Speaker 1: contestants made a dinosaur ranch and there was unicorns, and
32:12
Speaker 1: we've had blind cows and this is all out of cupcakes. Okay, okay, okay, cool, okay,
32:18
Speaker 1: let's go back to the cupcake dinosaur. Now are they
32:22
Speaker 1: just look cupcakes? Separate little cupcakes that they just design
32:27
Speaker 1: it with? How does that? I'm just let my imagination
32:29
Speaker 1: were on radio, we also on streaming on Facebook. How
32:33
Speaker 1: does that? You say that? Real slick? Like we were
32:35
Speaker 1: both pick that up. I know what a dinosaur cake
32:38
Speaker 1: would look like? Well, what does a dinosaur cupcake? So
32:43
Speaker 1: basically it's it's um, it's kind of like a tableau.
32:46
Speaker 1: It's more almost like a pull apart. So this artist
32:49
Speaker 1: actually put the cupcakes together and did like an airbrush
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Speaker 1: design of a dinosaur. And yeah, I mean I never
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Speaker 1: would have thought. And then the way that she shaped
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Speaker 1: the cupcakes. It was shaped like a dinosaur, but the
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Speaker 1: airbrushing was more of the pictures and things like that. Wow,
33:06
Speaker 1: so this is uh, this is like, this is kind
33:09
Speaker 1: of like cupcake Championship on steroids. That's exactly what it is.
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Speaker 1: Because see, I'm in my little kitchen, I'm struggling with
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Speaker 1: my red velvet, with my little white icing me And
33:23
Speaker 1: you mean, I'm a baker. I love to bake, but
33:26
Speaker 1: to do it to that level of which they do it,
33:29
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely a level of artistry. I'm old school.
33:32
Speaker 1: I can make you, like you said, German chocolate, red velvet, um,
33:36
Speaker 1: vanilla chocolate, can do those things, but the way that
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Speaker 1: they put those things together really takes it, really takes
33:42
Speaker 1: me skill. Now here's interesting thing about your background. Now
33:45
Speaker 1: it says Charleston. Did you grow up in Charleston, South Carolina?
33:50
Speaker 1: I did. I grew up between Atlanta and Charleston. So
33:53
Speaker 1: your your whole experience has been Southern style cooking. I'm
33:57
Speaker 1: assuming correct. Yes, had cool. Now, now you go off
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Speaker 1: to college, do your thing with all these memories of
34:06
Speaker 1: your being in the kitchen with your grandmother. What what what?
34:09
Speaker 1: How did she influence you as a as the talents
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Speaker 1: that you possessed today. What is she like? What does
34:14
Speaker 1: she do for you? Your grandmother? Well, being that I
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Speaker 1: don't have um professional culinary background, my culinary background is
34:24
Speaker 1: my grandmother. And because I'm of and I'm not sure,
34:27
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure because you've done your research of Gullaguichi.
34:31
Speaker 1: Have you heard of the gull of people? Um? And
34:33
Speaker 1: so it's a little to you from New Orleans area,
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Speaker 1: stopped the Low Country? Come on, you know the low
34:46
Speaker 1: so you know, so you know there's a difference the
34:48
Speaker 1: Southern and there's there's Galaghichi. Now we're Southern people, but
34:52
Speaker 1: we have a background and our heritage of West African descent.
34:59
Speaker 1: So grow end up in a household with a grandmother
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Speaker 1: that grew up in you know, the forties and the
35:05
Speaker 1: fifties when very much of Charleston, South Carolina was still
35:09
Speaker 1: you know, very much rooted in the Dulla background. Especially
35:12
Speaker 1: my grandmother grew up. I don't know if you've heard
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Speaker 1: of this in Charleston, but wad Mala Island Okay, okay, great,
35:20
Speaker 1: So that's when my grandmother grew up and where she
35:22
Speaker 1: grew up that was very you know, there was one
35:25
Speaker 1: way in, one way out. She grew up on a farm,
35:28
Speaker 1: So I grew up with a grandmother who learned most
35:32
Speaker 1: of her cooking from before farmer table wasn't sad. So
35:38
Speaker 1: I grew up with a grandmother who learned how to
35:40
Speaker 1: cook from things that she grew in her garden, from
35:43
Speaker 1: the seafood that her her father caught with fishing nets
35:46
Speaker 1: that he made by hands. So my background was not
35:51
Speaker 1: just learning how to fry chicken and macaroni and cheese
35:54
Speaker 1: and which is all great, but I also learned a
35:56
Speaker 1: lot of stuff about my West African roots with like
35:59
Speaker 1: Okrah student and um shrimp and grits and and all
36:03
Speaker 1: of those things that people now look at a delicacy
36:06
Speaker 1: in restaurants. I grew up eating that awesome. Now let's
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Speaker 1: go on to your show. That's what's you know, delicious,
36:14
Speaker 1: Miss brad Okay. Just the description they told me shares
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Speaker 1: their family events, culture and recipes close to her heart,
36:25
Speaker 1: including Sunday supper after crabbing on the dock, a low
36:28
Speaker 1: country ball at the beach, and shrimp voting to pre
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Speaker 1: hair to prepare for the ultimate shrimp fats. Now, when
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Speaker 1: you when you do a show like this. First of all,
36:37
Speaker 1: tell us your your your vision for the show before
36:40
Speaker 1: I started diving and asking my food. My vision for
36:46
Speaker 1: the show is to give the world a glimpse of
36:51
Speaker 1: an area that many people don't hear about unless it's
36:55
Speaker 1: in the form of a documentary um and so it
36:59
Speaker 1: being and showing an area and in a group of
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Speaker 1: distinct group of people that live in a very beautiful area,
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Speaker 1: in the type of food that we cook. It's just
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Speaker 1: me giving a glimpse into this world and also preserving
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Speaker 1: my heritage. That's very important for me with this show. Now,
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Speaker 1: this show Delicious Miss Brown, premier Sunday, July at am
37:23
Speaker 1: Eastern Standard time Pacific Standard time on the Food Network.
37:27
Speaker 1: Now I went through I'm gonna tell you how, I'm
37:30
Speaker 1: gonna tell you I'm a fan of. There are two
37:32
Speaker 1: people that impressed me in the kitchen is you and
37:35
Speaker 1: my girl, the pioneer woman. You know what I'm talking about.
37:38
Speaker 1: The Pioneer Woman. That's my good Mr. She can make
37:43
Speaker 1: it look simple and make it look good. I've never
37:46
Speaker 1: seenbody she'd be talking to just be stirring and be
37:49
Speaker 1: moving stuff out of the kitchen and into the oven
37:51
Speaker 1: so fast and you do the same thing. So that's
37:53
Speaker 1: what I like about you because I feel that because
37:56
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying there's nothing nothing bad about
37:59
Speaker 1: being trained because everything is so natural. So when you
38:02
Speaker 1: talk of that pan moving this way, that you're grabbing
38:04
Speaker 1: over there, you're doing a picture this you're not measuring.
38:07
Speaker 1: That's that's how my mom cooked. My mom would be
38:09
Speaker 1: in the kitchen. I didn't know what she did, but
38:12
Speaker 1: when she finished it all tastes cool. And that's how
38:15
Speaker 1: you and that's a compliment to your skill set. Thank you. Cool.
38:20
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about this episode number one they're gonna
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Speaker 1: promire July twenty eight, the Sunday Supper. Now, they said
38:26
Speaker 1: you talked you did fried chicken Poe boys, Grandma's grab
38:31
Speaker 1: mac and cheese, and for dessert you had Antc's famous
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Speaker 1: lemon lines. Solda cake in a bunch ship is my thing.
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Speaker 1: I love you know what I'm talking about. We do
38:45
Speaker 1: the same page. Now, it took up in understand that
38:47
Speaker 1: I know the lingo, so let's start. Let's start with it.
38:53
Speaker 1: I've never had a fried chicken poe boar trip popa
38:56
Speaker 1: all day long. I go to popa dot, I gotta
38:58
Speaker 1: get my shrimp poper fried chicken. Tell me about that
39:02
Speaker 1: one though, Yes, the fried chicken. So I decided to
39:06
Speaker 1: do something a little different now will prize my family
39:09
Speaker 1: on this episode and do something that they weren't looking for.
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Speaker 1: Not traditionally, after church, either the cooks at the church
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41:14
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41:23
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41:41
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Speaker 1: My next guest. Grandfather uh founded the family business in
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Speaker 1: Kissak and mckissak the oldest minority and woman owned design
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Speaker 1: Mkissak and Mkissak, Sheryl mckissak, Daniel, Good morning, how were
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Speaker 1: you good afternoon? Maybe we're profoundly speaking, I'm speaking with
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Speaker 1: success and how are you doing? Am doing terrific? Well?
46:36
Speaker 1: You know, oh, San Diego. Okay, it's early for you. Okay,
46:41
Speaker 1: I like that. Now it's business taking you out there.
46:44
Speaker 1: You're on vacation out there in San Diego. Because I
46:46
Speaker 1: always like to talk about having that balanced life. That
46:49
Speaker 1: was something I failed miserably on in my life, Sheryl,
46:52
Speaker 1: because I was just out there with Steve Harvey was
46:55
Speaker 1: just grinding and I never knew how to get off
46:56
Speaker 1: the wheel. And since I've gotten away from managing him,
46:59
Speaker 1: and I manage other talents now as well that I
47:02
Speaker 1: got other hands, a lot of our National Guard contracts
47:05
Speaker 1: and all these types of things, I've learned how to
47:08
Speaker 1: balance more. I learned how to slow down and enjoy
47:11
Speaker 1: my success. You have a legacy of success. How do
47:16
Speaker 1: you balance that? Uh? Well, I do take time for myself. Um.
47:22
Speaker 1: And you know, while I'm out here on business. On
47:26
Speaker 1: my way out here, I stopped in Little Rock, Arkansas
47:30
Speaker 1: for a girl's trip. That you go, that you go?
47:33
Speaker 1: I love it. You're gonna teach your shot on my
47:36
Speaker 1: main conversation of the day. Okay, okay, because because that's
47:41
Speaker 1: important that you say that, and you and the reason
47:43
Speaker 1: I like about it because you smile about it. That's
47:45
Speaker 1: the happiness that you're able to share your success. And
47:48
Speaker 1: sometimes if you don't share it, then people will detach
47:52
Speaker 1: from you and and and gain a perception of who
47:55
Speaker 1: you really are not and you just you succe us.
48:00
Speaker 1: But still deep down God is giving you a gift.
48:03
Speaker 1: But you're just a regular person and a lot of
48:05
Speaker 1: people will put you on a mountain because they don't know.
48:10
Speaker 1: And so what would you carry that legacy? Though? And
48:14
Speaker 1: I have to go back to eight oh five. Yes,
48:20
Speaker 1: what does that mean to you personally? Yeah? Well, I
48:25
Speaker 1: mean it's pretty incredible to be fifth generation. Most family
48:30
Speaker 1: business can't make it to the second generation. I think
48:34
Speaker 1: the statistics are UM in the thirty or twenty or
48:38
Speaker 1: thirty percent UM and third generation is more like four percent.
48:43
Speaker 1: And for us to be fifth generation, it is incredible. Um.
48:49
Speaker 1: You know, it gives you a sense of pride. UM.
48:53
Speaker 1: The for me, it gives me the ability to push
48:56
Speaker 1: through any situation that I have, knowing that my forefathers
49:02
Speaker 1: overcame slavery, Jim Crow, the segregation in the South, bigotries,
49:09
Speaker 1: all of these things to build a business. Um. And
49:13
Speaker 1: if they could do that, there's nothing I can do
49:18
Speaker 1: so UM. You know, the company actually goes back to
49:21
Speaker 1: the seventeen nineties when the first descendant of my family
49:27
Speaker 1: came here as a slave. UM was taught the trade
49:32
Speaker 1: of making bricks by his slave master, William McKissick. Um.
49:38
Speaker 1: We believe at some point he uh got his freedom
49:42
Speaker 1: because he gave three hundred and sixty five thousand bricks
49:46
Speaker 1: to the Cheers family in Nashville, Tennessee, a very prominent family. UM,
49:52
Speaker 1: and they built a mansion and that mansion is still standing. Um.
49:57
Speaker 1: His son was a master carpenter, Calvin McKissick. I mean,
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Speaker 1: most of the second I've enjoyed this conversation. It's like, Okay,
50:08
Speaker 1: I can't go past Street Port Louisiana. Okay, I can't
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Speaker 1: go past my grandmother. You all way back in there
50:14
Speaker 1: talking about when he came over and got out with
50:16
Speaker 1: some bricks. This is incredible information. So what documentary are
50:20
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50:23
Speaker 1: Because you know this is a story you're talking to
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Speaker 1: the personal story. This is a story, and we are
50:30
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50:33
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50:36
Speaker 1: but to continue the story, I don't want to. I
50:38
Speaker 1: just want to let you know that that part of
50:40
Speaker 1: this interview. What's your legacy, what's your history, the historical
50:44
Speaker 1: past that because I know, you know we're dealing with
50:47
Speaker 1: racism today. When you know to sit up and say
50:50
Speaker 1: I'm smart, that I can do something, that I can
50:53
Speaker 1: build something. Unfortunately, you know, the the the being able
50:59
Speaker 1: to over get perms, being denied, being denied, the right unions,
51:03
Speaker 1: coming in, tearing down I know exactly or some of
51:07
Speaker 1: the experiences, because that's what that period delivered, if delivered
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Speaker 1: rejection physically publicly for people of color. Lindens and all
51:16
Speaker 1: the things burning down your success stories and all that stuff.
51:19
Speaker 1: So when when you talk about your journey and where
51:22
Speaker 1: you're at today, your female minority on what what what what?
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Speaker 1: What story stands out about your your your history in
51:32
Speaker 1: this fifth generation accomplishment of this company. Well, the the
51:38
Speaker 1: story for me is my grandfather Moses McKissick the third
51:44
Speaker 1: and Calvin McKissick. They incorporated US in nineteen o five
51:49
Speaker 1: and architectural licensing boards did not go into effect in
51:54
Speaker 1: the state of Tennessee until nine so they were have
52:00
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52:08
Speaker 1: T To receive architectural degrees and then they go to
52:13
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52:16
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52:26
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52:30
Speaker 1: we cannot prevent these men from taking this test um
52:35
Speaker 1: just because they're black. And then he said, you know,
52:38
Speaker 1: kind of flipping, well, they're not going to pass it anyway, right,
52:43
Speaker 1: just hidding figures again right here. Uh. And so they
52:50
Speaker 1: take the exam. Of course, they passed, and then they
52:54
Speaker 1: don't want to give them the license, but they have
52:56
Speaker 1: to um. So they received as one seventeen and one
53:02
Speaker 1: eighteen in the state of Tennessee, and the same board
53:08
Speaker 1: that did not want them to have the license when
53:12
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53:16
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53:20
Speaker 1: them to get licensed in twenty two other states. Wow,
53:25
Speaker 1: the blessings just kept growing. The blessings just kept on growing. Correct, Yes,
53:34
Speaker 1: now so that that the story is uh one of
53:38
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53:44
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