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Clifton Powell Full Interview (2nd Appearance) · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: in studio with me um. I wanted to bring him
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Speaker 1: back because guess what we was a movie we did together.
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Speaker 1: He was starting and I was excutive producing it. It
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Speaker 1: was called Misguy Behavior, which was a bully movie, you know,
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Speaker 1: bringing awareness about bullying, how it can be, it can
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Speaker 1: be circulating and what they call a middle class family
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Speaker 1: lifestyle and they're not aware of it. But it also
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Speaker 1: shows a lot of different versions of bullying, from young
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Speaker 1: ladies to uh a suicidal situation, how righting right in
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Speaker 1: the front of teachers and principal bullying is going on
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Speaker 1: and they don't even know about it. What attracted you
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Speaker 1: to the movie. Well, you know, um, I got bullied,
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Speaker 1: you know, and if you if you ever gotten bullied,
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Speaker 1: it sticks with you probably until you die. I had
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Speaker 1: a guy in my neighborhood. I grew up in d
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Speaker 1: C and in a in a complex called Mayfair, but
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Speaker 1: right across the street was Parkside, which was one of
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Speaker 1: the toughest projects in d C. And um, it was
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Speaker 1: several guys, but there was one kid who just named Levi,
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Speaker 1: who just and all my friends know about Levi, you know,
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Speaker 1: and and he just had me. I was just terrified.
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Speaker 1: He was He was a tough kid. And I remember,
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Speaker 1: you know, I was turning like thirteen fourteen. I was like, man,
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Speaker 1: I got I gotta fight fight Levi back and I
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Speaker 1: was like, man, I'm gonna have a girlfriend and maybe
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Speaker 1: I'll be driving one day just stopped me and take
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Speaker 1: my car. And you know, I was just terrified. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I was a couple of guys in the neighbor I
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Speaker 1: was terrified. So, you know, I mean remember being at
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Speaker 1: a girl invite me to a party and she said, Hey,
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Speaker 1: we're having a party, come on over. And uh. It
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Speaker 1: was right on the outskirts of a park, side when
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Speaker 1: the departments as opposed to the houses which were in
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Speaker 1: the interior. So I went there and I was having
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Speaker 1: a great time, and then LEVI walked in, Man, and
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Speaker 1: he beat me off the couch and I'm not talking
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Speaker 1: about the smack and like he punched me in my face,
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Speaker 1: off the couch, out the door, down the steps. And
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Speaker 1: I never hit him back. I was just terrified of him.
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Speaker 1: And finally somewhere in a year, within that year, I
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Speaker 1: had fought him back, and he turned into a little sissy,
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Speaker 1: you know when he called sissy's back then. But I
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Speaker 1: got the nerve, you know. But it's that that that
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Speaker 1: story that scars stayed with me. And so when I
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Speaker 1: read the script, I said, Man, I want to be
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Speaker 1: a part of this because I want to talk about
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Speaker 1: bullying because it's real today. I think the schools are
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Speaker 1: doing a better job because you know, back in our day, man,
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Speaker 1: you just got your butt whipped. Hey, um, you just
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Speaker 1: got your butt whipped, and nobody did anything. Story when
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Speaker 1: I was in the third grade, and it was like
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Speaker 1: j Scott in Houston in fifth and I remember every
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Speaker 1: day I come down that street, he was waiting to
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Speaker 1: pat me down, like like he was a police officer.
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Speaker 1: He patted me down, and I would I would like,
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Speaker 1: I could not understand why this kid was waiting on
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Speaker 1: me every day, every day, patting me down, and that
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Speaker 1: just that story stays with me. And that's where I
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Speaker 1: could it's and I could see him coming, and I
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Speaker 1: went around this way where he always he was waiting on.
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Speaker 1: I could not avoid this kid. He was always right
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Speaker 1: where I had to get home fifteen bangs. And the thing,
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Speaker 1: the thing that I think I want people out there
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Speaker 1: to understand is that we're in our forties and fifties
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Speaker 1: and sixties now and I still feel like if Levi
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Speaker 1: was around, I would want to beat his butt, you know,
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Speaker 1: psychological you know the thing I would one of those
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Speaker 1: why and why? And then what the fact that bullying,
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Speaker 1: that being being a bully didn't have on the rest
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Speaker 1: of his life, he didn't have on his kids. Because
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Speaker 1: in the movie we see a scene where the against
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Speaker 1: the kid who was doing the bullying. He's being terrorized. Yes,
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Speaker 1: so so what happened? What happens with you know, a
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Speaker 1: kid like Levi? He ended up dying, probably out in
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Speaker 1: the streets. But if you take a kid like me,
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Speaker 1: I began bullying kids that were maybe weakened in me.
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Speaker 1: And it's it's in psychiatry. It's called transference, where you
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Speaker 1: kind of transfer, you know, what happens to you to
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Speaker 1: other people or other you know. And and I had
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Speaker 1: to catch myself. And I was telling you, you know,
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Speaker 1: one of my friends about raising my youngest son, Clifton
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Speaker 1: the third, who is now six ft six. But uh,
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Speaker 1: and I can't. I can't beat him now. I had
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Speaker 1: boxed with him. They told me apart, but I remember
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Speaker 1: him being if all the other kids went to play
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Speaker 1: at the swings, Clifton went to the pool somewhere and
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Speaker 1: I couldn't find it. And you know when I grew up,
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Speaker 1: when they gave you that to put that spanking and
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Speaker 1: put that that belt on your butt. And one of
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Speaker 1: my my mentor came to me and said, man, you
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Speaker 1: gotta stop spanking him. Man, I gotta start talking to him. No,
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Speaker 1: nobody talked to me. But I realized that I was
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Speaker 1: taking the wrong role, in the wrong approach with him,
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Speaker 1: as opposed to nurturing his differences and uh, his psychological creativity.
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Speaker 1: Um and and it's just the way we were raised.
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Speaker 1: So a lot of that was always physical And I
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Speaker 1: think a lot of times when you like, when you
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Speaker 1: see a movie like Miss Guy The Behavior, you see
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Speaker 1: this kid bullying another kid, and then when he gets home,
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Speaker 1: his daddy, who's stronger than him, is bullying him. And
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Speaker 1: if we could see more, we might see somebody bullying
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Speaker 1: his dad at work. And that's something and that because
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Speaker 1: they're taking an emotional pain and then turned into physical
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Speaker 1: drama for somebody else. The thing about it that I
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Speaker 1: love this movie or project about is that not only
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Speaker 1: is a relatable but the acting was fantastic and then
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Speaker 1: they're directing this fantastic and it and it's an independent
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Speaker 1: project that doesn't look like an independent projects. You've done
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Speaker 1: your share of major movies and your share of independence.
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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts and coming into an independent project
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Speaker 1: like Miss Guy to Behavior. Well, you know, Uh, Khalil
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Speaker 1: Kine and our friends and I know Khalil you know,
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Speaker 1: was director and he's just you know, just so competent
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Speaker 1: because he's he's detail oriented. Dorrismargato I know from working
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Speaker 1: around uh. And then Sharon was you know, on board
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Speaker 1: as producer and we all have the same kind of
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Speaker 1: work ethic and then and then really the real bottom
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Speaker 1: line is the subject matter, you know, because what happens
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Speaker 1: with actors is that if you read a lot of scripts,
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Speaker 1: you know, and and and it's one that jumps out
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Speaker 1: at you, you're like, you know, I'm not really worried
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Speaker 1: about the money. It's like, let's let's go do the work,
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Speaker 1: you know. And when I saw it, I was so
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Speaker 1: proud to be a part of it because it speaks
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Speaker 1: to something and I think we need to address in
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Speaker 1: this culture. Because again, a young girl committed suicide last week.
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Speaker 1: I think she was nine from because she has a
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Speaker 1: she had a white friend and and and I don't
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Speaker 1: know if it was black kids, but some of the
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Speaker 1: kids were calling her out of her name and saying,
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Speaker 1: you're dealing with that white boy and all that crazy stuff.
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Speaker 1: And she internalized it and she killed herself nine years old,
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Speaker 1: nine years old. And and at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: I think, I don't know if bullies understand the impact
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Speaker 1: the bullying, but parents and teachers and mentors and and
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Speaker 1: and and coaches, we have to understand what bully does.
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Speaker 1: Bullying does to a child's mind. It makes them scared,
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Speaker 1: It makes them tense, it makes them, agitates them, It
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Speaker 1: takes away their self esteem, all of that stuff. I
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Speaker 1: was talking to Call, you know, the director of the
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Speaker 1: movie missed guy to behavior. Then I said, Car, I'm sorry.
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Speaker 1: Carl Paine directed Leil Kane was the start with Khalil
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Speaker 1: is directing to now. So that's why I didn't differ
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Speaker 1: from that. Carl Paine, who's one of the best ever.
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Speaker 1: I mean, excuse me, call if you heard that. But
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Speaker 1: you know, um, because it was a while ago, you know,
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Speaker 1: and I am getting little older, you know, I'm taking
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Speaker 1: my brain pill. No, but but they both are just
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Speaker 1: Carl Payne, you know, we did to play together, but
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Speaker 1: we came up in the in the business in the
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Speaker 1: l A. When I say exquisitely uh detail oriented, it's
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Speaker 1: just crazy. But the thing the body that he said
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Speaker 1: something what I interviewed. If you said, Rashane, let's let's
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Speaker 1: let's be real, he said, when we grew up, you
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Speaker 1: bullied and it just stayed that moment. Bully stayed in.
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Speaker 1: Your moments will leave our stayed in the street, your
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Speaker 1: moment under that party stayed there. Not today. If that happened,
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Speaker 1: you have been videotaped. You've been videotaped. They uploaded it
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Speaker 1: on social media and you have to live with that
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Speaker 1: because they don't take things down on social media, off
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Speaker 1: the internet, and that causes even more embarrassment. And I
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Speaker 1: think that's that is what pushes kids over the edge,
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Speaker 1: and that when he said that, it really made a
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Speaker 1: big difference because we're just talking about our stories, these
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Speaker 1: kids and adults. Let's not let's not forget that dally
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Speaker 1: a bullying translate to adults who are too There's some
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Speaker 1: adults out there being bullied by male and female situations
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Speaker 1: and and they call it. Somebody call it domestic violence.
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Speaker 1: Somebody colleges friend partnership violence. But there's bullying going on.
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Speaker 1: And bullying doesn't have to not have to be physical.
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Speaker 1: It could be mental, it could be social. You could
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Speaker 1: be ostracized, somebody saying we don't want you over here,
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Speaker 1: and that that that child is trying to figure out why.
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Speaker 1: That's the amazing part of this movie, missed guy to behavior.
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Speaker 1: I know you and I both been being a part
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Speaker 1: of it, probably be a part of it. But I
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Speaker 1: want to come back and talk about that career because
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Speaker 1: the thing about this is that I want to do
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Speaker 1: one break about the movie. The second break is that
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Speaker 1: he has one of those faces you go, I know
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Speaker 1: that dude, I know that dude. He but he's one
9:19
Speaker 1: of my favorite shows. One of my favorite shows, Black
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Speaker 1: Lightning on c W. I saw him get shot. He's
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Speaker 1: come back. He died twice. I don't understand how black
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Speaker 1: Man keep dying on TV and coming back. We were
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Speaker 1: back with more. Clifton Pole, my man, one of the
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Speaker 1: great actors in Hollywood. Stay out of the d C.
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Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with being successful, my friends, especially when you're
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Speaker 1: sitting next to success. I want to making conversations. Hi,
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Speaker 1: this is Sean mcgonald. I'm back Uh in studio, my man,
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Speaker 1: Clifton Pole. If you are unfamiliar with his work, more
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Speaker 1: than a hundred If I said a hundred films, TV shows,
9:55
Speaker 1: some of these credits. You know, Minutes to Society, Wow,
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Speaker 1: scary movie from a standpoint of an urbans prospective. Did
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Speaker 1: President is one of my favorite movies? Why Do Foods?
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Speaker 1: Fall In Love? Rush Hour, Next Friday? That was a
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Speaker 1: groundbreaker with ice q uh and many many more movies
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Speaker 1: like There for Uh, You've done You've done plays? Correct plays? Uh?
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Speaker 1: Play Dr King and Selma, Lord Selma. You know I
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Speaker 1: do television. We sha any YPD Blue Uh instant, I've
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Speaker 1: done almost all the television shows. Uh did Hawaifi five
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Speaker 1: oh a couple of weeks ago with Luke Gossip and
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Speaker 1: uh Gladys Knight and Sean McBride and Shot actually wrote
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Speaker 1: the episode. You know, I just I've just been a
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Speaker 1: working actor, man. And I never I never had a plan.
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Speaker 1: I like I tell when I do, I do a
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Speaker 1: seminar called Behind the Lens where I talk about every
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Speaker 1: aspect of the business and and talk about all the
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Speaker 1: things that nobody taught me, you know. Um, and I
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Speaker 1: just want to be a football player, man. And I
10:55
Speaker 1: don't know how I became an actor. Um uh, I know,
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Speaker 1: I know, I don't know. If you know my net
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Speaker 1: you James Brown's a sportscaster, so yeah, yeah, CEB NFL
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Speaker 1: now and so you know j B was an All
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Speaker 1: American basketball star. So I was like, man, and he
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Speaker 1: was such a great guys, always sharp, like you're, always
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Speaker 1: personable and always nice to people. And I ended up
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Speaker 1: playing in the neighborhood and I was fast, and I
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Speaker 1: ended up going to the MATHA and unfortunately, I just
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Speaker 1: I didn't I never grew and I got in trouble
11:24
Speaker 1: hanging out with my wife six six, my son's six six,
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Speaker 1: and I stayed at like ten and uh, but you know,
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Speaker 1: since I didn't play football, I transferred from De Matha
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Speaker 1: and went to St. Anthony's and and let's tell you
11:35
Speaker 1: something about the Matha. It's like a sports football basketball.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you google the Matha, google De Matha.
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Speaker 1: And then I ended up going to St. Anthony's and
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Speaker 1: John Thompson was the basketball coach, so I couldn't play basketball.
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Speaker 1: So basically I saw a play. I saw a play
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Speaker 1: and I said, man, I just do the play, just
11:54
Speaker 1: messing around because you know, back in my day, I
11:56
Speaker 1: was so chocolate. I couldn't get any girls. I was like, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do to play. Maybe I might be a
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Speaker 1: girl into play, you know. And then I did the
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Speaker 1: play and I heard about a program and then I
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Speaker 1: got into the program. But I didn't go to go
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Speaker 1: to the program. I just wrote up with one of
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Speaker 1: my partners, and they kept asking me to audition for
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Speaker 1: the program, the acting program. I was like, no, I'm
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Speaker 1: not worried. I'm not. But then they finally convinced me
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Speaker 1: and they put me in the program and I stayed
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Speaker 1: with it, and then it just you know, once I
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Speaker 1: got to college, and I came to New York and
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Speaker 1: seventy nine from seventy eighty nine, and then um, I
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Speaker 1: got to California, and I just applied all the stuff
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Speaker 1: that I learned all over over those twenty years and
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Speaker 1: was just ready to go and prepared when I got there.
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Speaker 1: We used the thing about it. When I look at
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Speaker 1: a career like yours people, I would tell people, if
12:38
Speaker 1: you ever dream, follow it, If I ever dream you're
12:40
Speaker 1: gonna have there, You're gonna have to be uncomfortable. And
12:43
Speaker 1: then there's no guarantees, because I know when you went
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Speaker 1: to l A there were no guarantees and there were
12:47
Speaker 1: no immediate returns on your investment. How did you keep
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Speaker 1: moving forward? How did you keep moving for even when
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Speaker 1: you got one shot didn't mean that second shot came
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Speaker 1: equally as fast. Yeah, I think, um M. In order
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Speaker 1: to answer that question, I gotta go back to the
13:03
Speaker 1: New York days when Denzel and Sam and Angela Bassett
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Speaker 1: and all of us were poor actors. And in the
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Speaker 1: morning you got up and you took your picture and resume,
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Speaker 1: you stapled it. Say you get up at seven you
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Speaker 1: stay with your pitching resume. You catch the train downtown
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Speaker 1: or the bus, and you might have ten dollars for
13:22
Speaker 1: the whole day. You stop an equity office, you walk
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Speaker 1: the west side during the day, you walk the east
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Speaker 1: side and eating and drop your pictures off. And then
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Speaker 1: you might drop off a hundred fifty pictures and never
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Speaker 1: get a call. So but you keep going because you're
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Speaker 1: just determined. So by the time I got to Hollywood
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Speaker 1: and eighty nine, I was already in a headset that
13:41
Speaker 1: nothing's gonna stop me. I'm gonna keep on going because
13:44
Speaker 1: at some point somebody is gonna get me a shot.
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Speaker 1: And one of my buddies, his grandmother, used to say,
13:48
Speaker 1: as steady drop breaks the rock, you know. So I
13:51
Speaker 1: was always and so so when I say to young people,
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Speaker 1: inspect me to all the people listening to young people listening,
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Speaker 1: preparation versus opportunity. And I always worked harder because I
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Speaker 1: was the worst act in my program, so I had
14:03
Speaker 1: to outwork everybody. And I was always prepared, so if
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Speaker 1: somebody else came in and read off the page, I
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Speaker 1: had my memorize and I did a performance in the room,
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Speaker 1: and I just had my father instilled in me. All
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Speaker 1: you need is faith size of a mustancy. That's all
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Speaker 1: you need. And you did it and I did it. Okay.
14:21
Speaker 1: So so you you say Rock was basically your first
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Speaker 1: breakthrough project Rock Rock, Well, I would say house Party.
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Speaker 1: I did one scene. I had one scene a house party,
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Speaker 1: and uh, and then I got the call to come
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Speaker 1: audition for uh Minister Society. And then right around there
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Speaker 1: I got to call the audition for Rock. But but
14:42
Speaker 1: in Minister helped a lot. Now let's talk about Ministers side,
14:47
Speaker 1: because it's it was it was an urban um soft central. Uh.
14:52
Speaker 1: I mean, it's some scenes in there, man, when the
14:53
Speaker 1: kid was reaching for that gun and got shot and
14:55
Speaker 1: the next thing you know, he's in the emergency wing.
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Speaker 1: It's one of one of those uh, the Huge brothers, right,
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Speaker 1: the Huge they did that. That was I think that
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Speaker 1: was the first movie. And so when you did, when
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Speaker 1: you was invited to do a project like that, that
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Speaker 1: was so real? How did that affect you? You know,
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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you, I've never been invited
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Speaker 1: to you know, in the early days anywhere audition, Tupac
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Speaker 1: got into a fight with the Hughes brothers and too
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Speaker 1: Short didn't want to. I didn't want to have a
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Speaker 1: lot of lines. And I was at a party somebody said, man,
15:27
Speaker 1: they're looking for this new character. In minutes, somebody played
15:30
Speaker 1: this guy named Chauncey. I was like, man, well who
15:32
Speaker 1: I called? It is the same Castle director, the casting
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Speaker 1: rock and I just found myself there and a stupid
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Speaker 1: and they put me in it. And you know, I
15:43
Speaker 1: knew it was gonna be a special movie. But sometimes
15:46
Speaker 1: when you shoot a movie, you might shoot the ending
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Speaker 1: and getting. But I said, if this movie catches on,
15:52
Speaker 1: because it was I mean, we were deep in the
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Speaker 1: hood with Sean. You couldn't walk to your car, you know.
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Speaker 1: I had to walk to my car with this cat
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Speaker 1: name sheen Gun. And it was just really and then
16:02
Speaker 1: some days the hood guys were shut to set down.
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Speaker 1: But I knew that we that the Hughes brothers and
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Speaker 1: Lorenz and Tyring and the whole production staff was making
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Speaker 1: something special. And when it came out and hit like
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Speaker 1: a like a like a whirlwind, yeah, because that that
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Speaker 1: was the time when you know, when a lot of
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Speaker 1: uh violence with the theaters and then so black movies
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Speaker 1: really couldn't get their play because somehow people fighting in
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Speaker 1: the seats and all that stuff, and and it gave
16:27
Speaker 1: a bad rap for movies like that. And but if
16:30
Speaker 1: you have time, it's one of those movies you need
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Speaker 1: to see because it's timeless, just like Dead President. The
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Speaker 1: President is another one um dead Presidents. They asked me
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Speaker 1: to come in and read for Spider and Cowboys. Spider
16:44
Speaker 1: had like a half of line and Cowboy. I wasn't Cowboy,
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Speaker 1: and and that way I got that movie is I
16:51
Speaker 1: was so broke. I had a wool suit. It was
16:54
Speaker 1: ninety nine point nine degrees outside, and I stopped at
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Speaker 1: art Vark and got me a dob hat. But I
17:00
Speaker 1: stood up. I stayed up all night long, and I
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Speaker 1: and I memorized Cutty. And I called my manager and
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Speaker 1: she's my agent managers, and she said, well, they have
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Speaker 1: a star name for Cutty. So I did. Cowboy had
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Speaker 1: a cowboy hat, I had a patch for Spider, and
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Speaker 1: I had my job hat with my wool suit. I
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Speaker 1: sweated out for Cutty. And I begged the who you
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Speaker 1: was brothers to let me read and they said, dude,
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Speaker 1: we got a star name. I said, just let me
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Speaker 1: read him. Man uh, And you know they twined, so
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Speaker 1: you can't tell who he's talking about. So I said,
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Speaker 1: just let me let me read man. He said, well
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Speaker 1: you already asked Albert. I was like, well, Alan, can
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Speaker 1: I read? He said, Cliff, we gotta start name. I said,
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Speaker 1: just let me read it, and I memorized, and they
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Speaker 1: finally let me read it. I said, hey, baby girl,
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Speaker 1: and did the whole thing, and they said, you know what,
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Speaker 1: You're gonna be cutty, We'll call you. You know. So
17:43
Speaker 1: part of that that that story is is I was
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Speaker 1: just so prepared, and I knew that was gonna be
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Speaker 1: a crazy special movie because right after minutes, you know,
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Speaker 1: with Chris Tucker and Rands again and and and Terence
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Speaker 1: Howard hit Man and the music, that thing was special.
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Speaker 1: It was special. Now, I gotta go back to my
18:01
Speaker 1: last statement. I saw you perform, uh Dr Marl Luther King,
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Speaker 1: and I saw that I saw the movie. Okay, So
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Speaker 1: how does that opportunity present itself to you? Because it's
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Speaker 1: really different from your all the character to all tough guys.
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Speaker 1: Now you now you basically playing an emotional healer. Yeah. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know it's it's always fun like your favorite show
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Speaker 1: Black Lightning, when I'm playing a pastor uh, and it's
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Speaker 1: so funny. I just did an episode of American Soul
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Speaker 1: and it looks good. Brother, that looks good. And the
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Speaker 1: producer said, I've only seen this guy played pastors. Can
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Speaker 1: he play a tough guy? So I was like, yes,
18:40
Speaker 1: thank you. Somebody finally realized that I played more than
18:42
Speaker 1: tough guys. I played doctors, lawyers, you know, I play everything.
18:45
Speaker 1: But Ruben Cannon, who put me in Why the Foods
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Speaker 1: Fall in Love? And he put me in Buffalo Soldiers,
18:50
Speaker 1: and he put me in Women Are Loosed. And I
18:53
Speaker 1: got a call and they said they want you to
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Speaker 1: come in and read for Semolo Selmer. I was like, okay,
18:58
Speaker 1: did they call for me? She said, I don't know
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Speaker 1: what happened. So I got in there anyway, and I said, Ruben,
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Speaker 1: what's up? He said, clip, what are you doing here?
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Speaker 1: You always play tough guys? And I stayed up all
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19:16
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19:21
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19:34
Speaker 1: glad that God gave me a certain amount of talent
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19:46
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