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- 0:01Speaker 1: Democrats.
- 0:01Speaker 2: And and this is so you understand, I'm going to
- 0:03Speaker 2: go a little bit here into like a deep dive
- 0:06Speaker 2: into the Democrats' mentality. And I'm talking about the leadership,
- 0:10Speaker 2: talking about Biden and the people around Biden, uh and
- 0:14Speaker 2: the Democratic National Committee, and and just so you under understand. Okay,
- 0:19Speaker 2: there is a mentality, and I think it's extremely clear. Okay,
- 0:26Speaker 2: there is a mentality that Democrats want Donald Trump to
- 0:31Speaker 2: get the nomination.
- 0:32Speaker 1: That's that's number one. Okay.
- 0:34Speaker 2: Democrats desperately, I mean desperately, all right, want them to
- 0:42Speaker 2: get the nomination.
- 0:43Speaker 1: That's number one.
- 0:44Speaker 2: So you understand they believe that Donald Trump will be
- 0:48Speaker 2: the easiest person to beat.
- 0:51Speaker 1: That's what they believe.
- 0:53Speaker 2: They believe that Donald Trump is so polarizing that in
- 0:58Speaker 2: a general election, there's no way that Donald Trump could
- 1:04Speaker 2: win the election. They saw that in the data last time,
- 1:10Speaker 2: and they feel like that last time, that data was
- 1:13Speaker 2: so abundantly clear, that this was so transparent, Okay, that
- 1:20Speaker 2: this was the only candid that they wanted to have
- 1:23Speaker 2: win the nomination. Now, I'm not saying I agree with
- 1:25Speaker 2: any of that. I'm just letting you know their mindset.
- 1:27Speaker 2: I want to make that clear. The second thing is
- 1:31Speaker 2: they said, look, we know that Trump has a unfavorability
- 1:37Speaker 2: rating that is catastrophic politically. Now in politics, hillary Clinton
- 1:42Speaker 2: had this right. Seventy four percent of primary voters on
- 1:48Speaker 2: the Democratic primary, so not the Republican okay side, the
- 1:51Speaker 2: Democratic primary had an unfavorable opinion of Hillary Clinton. If
- 1:58Speaker 2: you want to know why Hillary Clinton lost that with
- 2:00Speaker 2: more money than anybody had ever had in the present
- 2:02Speaker 2: shoal election, I think at that point and lost to
- 2:05Speaker 2: Donald Trump, it is because of her unfavorable Her own team,
- 2:09Speaker 2: in essence, just couldn't stand her. They just didn't like her.
- 2:13Speaker 2: They didn't like her in the primary, they didn't like
- 2:16Speaker 2: her in the general. They just didn't like her. Okay,
- 2:19Speaker 2: that's the easiest and the best way that I can
- 2:22Speaker 2: describe it. They just they didn't like her, plain and simple.
- 2:27Speaker 2: They didn't like her. So what happened was, is the
- 2:34Speaker 2: people that she needed and you need to win an election,
- 2:37Speaker 2: when they didn't show up, it was it was game over,
- 2:41Speaker 2: right Like when you didn't like when people don't show
- 2:43Speaker 2: up that you need to show up, that you desperately
- 2:45Speaker 2: need to show up. When they don't show up for
- 2:47Speaker 2: an election, you're gonna lose, and you're gonna lose every
- 2:50Speaker 2: single time, and that's basically the mentality. Now the Democrats, well, look,
- 2:55Speaker 2: Donald Trump, he may be loved by his hardcore MAGA supporter,
- 3:00Speaker 2: but the majority of the Republican Party isn't going to
- 3:02Speaker 2: jump all over him, and then the swing voters are not.
- 3:05Speaker 2: So therefore he's the easiest candidate to be Now, there's
- 3:08Speaker 2: a new poll out that is interesting data on this,
- 3:11Speaker 2: and I want you to understand it so because it's
- 3:13Speaker 2: going to be talked about a lot in the weeks
- 3:15Speaker 2: in the days ahead, Donald Trump. In the headline for
- 3:18Speaker 2: the Daily News is Trump plunges a thirty five percent
- 3:21Speaker 2: favorable rating and a dire new poll that says fifty
- 3:24Speaker 2: three percent of Americans back the indictments against Donald Trump.
- 3:30Speaker 2: Then it says former President Trump's popularity is plunging as
- 3:34Speaker 2: his legal troubles mount. Just thirty five percent of Americans
- 3:36Speaker 2: have a favorable view of Trump compared to sixty two
- 3:39Speaker 2: percent who view him unfavorably. Now that's not as high
- 3:42Speaker 2: as seventy four percent of Democratic voters with Hillary Clinton,
- 3:45Speaker 2: want to make that clear, So he's not even close
- 3:47Speaker 2: to the Hillary Clinton mark.
- 3:48Speaker 1: Yet.
- 3:48Speaker 2: But the Hillary Clinton mark is like the death Star
- 3:51Speaker 2: at Costco, right, you don't come back from it. This
- 3:55Speaker 2: according to a new poll release yesterday. The survey, which
- 3:59Speaker 2: was conducted from last Friday to Monday, also found that
- 4:02Speaker 2: fifty three percent of all voters, okay, that's Republicans, Democrats,
- 4:05Speaker 2: independence all voters say they definitely will not vote for
- 4:09Speaker 2: Trump for president in twenty twenty four. Now that's the problem, right,
- 4:12Speaker 2: This is what Democrats are saying. Why they wanted Trump
- 4:14Speaker 2: to get the nomination. This is why every time they
- 4:17Speaker 2: indicted him it was it actually helped him win the primary,
- 4:20Speaker 2: and they believe it's going to make him cost him
- 4:21Speaker 2: to the presidential This survey, again, if you have all
- 4:25Speaker 2: voters and fifty three percent of all voters have already
- 4:27Speaker 2: made up their mind, and fifty three percent say they
- 4:31Speaker 2: will definitely wouldn't vote for Trump for president, then that
- 4:33Speaker 2: means that you only have best case scenario forty seven
- 4:36Speaker 2: percent of the voters you can get your hands on.
- 4:38Speaker 2: That's also another problem for Trump. Another eleven percent said
- 4:42Speaker 2: they probably wouldn't support his White House comeback bid. That's
- 4:45Speaker 2: also another problem. These lackluster numbers for Trump extend to
- 4:50Speaker 2: opinions about the efforts to prosecute him for trying to
- 4:52Speaker 2: overturn his loss to the twenty twenty election. Some fifty
- 4:56Speaker 2: three percent of those surveyed approve of the US Department
- 4:59Speaker 2: of Justice this is his indictment of Trump for alleged
- 5:01Speaker 2: for his alleged scheme to try to stay in power illegally,
- 5:05Speaker 2: compared to just thirty percent who disapprove of the new
- 5:08Speaker 2: indictments of Trump. The poll was taken after Trump's indictment
- 5:12Speaker 2: on the federal January sixth pro but before he was
- 5:15Speaker 2: charged late Monday with racketeering in Georgia. The survey reveals
- 5:19Speaker 2: a stark divide between Democrats and independent voters on the
- 5:23Speaker 2: one hand, and Republicans on the other. Some eighty six
- 5:26Speaker 2: percent of Democrats backed the indictments, compared to just sixteen
- 5:29Speaker 2: percent of Republicans. The fact that sixteen percent Republicans that's
- 5:32Speaker 2: the poll I care about. I would expect it to
- 5:34Speaker 2: be ninety to one hundred percent of Democrats back these
- 5:36Speaker 2: indictments because they don't care about the rule of law
- 5:39Speaker 2: and they want to put a Republican in jail. The
- 5:42Speaker 2: part that concerns me now is this part the indictment.
- 5:47Speaker 2: There is a survey reveals that also independent voters are
- 5:54Speaker 2: also on the Democrats side with this, okay, And there's
- 5:57Speaker 2: sixteen percent of Republican voters. It's registered Republicans that voted
- 6:02Speaker 2: in elections in the past who are saying they are
- 6:05Speaker 2: fine with Donald Trump being indicted. That number scares the
- 6:08Speaker 2: hell out of me. And the reason why it scares
- 6:10Speaker 2: the hell out of me is because if we've lost
- 6:12Speaker 2: sixteen percent of Republicans, that's very much like what happened
- 6:15Speaker 2: with Hillary Clinton the Democrats, right, the unfavorables. I don't
- 6:19Speaker 2: know how you overcome that in a general election. If
- 6:22Speaker 2: the election was today. What this means is Donald Trump
- 6:24Speaker 2: would lose a head to head election against Joe Biden
- 6:27Speaker 2: if these numbers stay. Now, can these numbers change? Of
- 6:31Speaker 2: course they can, and they have to change. Trump has
- 6:35Speaker 2: built a dominant lead, and this is what Democrats were
- 6:38Speaker 2: betting on in the presidential race in the GOP primary,
- 6:41Speaker 2: even as his legal woes have gotten worse. Right, this
- 6:44Speaker 2: is I'm ring for the article again, successfully using the
- 6:46Speaker 2: legal drama as a political weapon to rally Republican voters
- 6:49Speaker 2: behind him. And this is what Democrats have been saying
- 6:52Speaker 2: behind closed doors now for months and months a month.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Here's the other thing.
- 6:55Speaker 2: It's interesting seven to ten Republicans seven out of ten
- 7:00Speaker 2: view the former president favorably, at about sixty percent say
- 7:03Speaker 2: they're happy he's making a return run for the White House.
- 7:08Speaker 2: This reminds me a lot of what just happened in
- 7:11Speaker 2: the Republican primaries across the country, in seats that we
- 7:14Speaker 2: should have won that we lost. For example, doctor Oz, Okay,
- 7:19Speaker 2: doctor Oz a great example. Donald Trump came in, he said,
- 7:22Speaker 2: doctor Oz is my guy. Trump supporters in a primary
- 7:25Speaker 2: voted for doctor Oz, and he got his brains beat
- 7:27Speaker 2: in the general election that we lost a seat to Fetterman.
- 7:30Speaker 2: For goodness sakes, Can Trump get you across the finish line?
- 7:36Speaker 2: He absolutely can. He can get you across the finish
- 7:39Speaker 2: line in a primary. But can he get you across
- 7:41Speaker 2: the finish line to win an election. That's the problem here.
- 7:45Speaker 2: It's the same thing we saw at Carl Lake in Arizona.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Donald Trump came out said, she's my girl. Guess what happened.
- 7:50Speaker 2: She wins the primary and then she loses the general.
- 7:53Speaker 2: There were several races that were lost that we lost
- 7:58Speaker 2: because of bad.
- 7:59Speaker 1: Can it choice?
- 8:01Speaker 2: I'll give you another example, Hershel Walker. Donald Trump said
- 8:04Speaker 2: herschel Walker's my guy. Donald Trump got him across the
- 8:07Speaker 2: finish line in the primary. Right in the general we
- 8:10Speaker 2: lost again. The Senate is in the hands of the
- 8:13Speaker 2: Democrats because we picked three candidates that could make it
- 8:17Speaker 2: through a primary. All right, that could make it through
- 8:20Speaker 2: a primary, but could not make it through a general election.
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- 9:36Speaker 2: like Donald Trump was the easiest candidate to beat. That
- 9:40Speaker 2: was their perspective on this. They thought, we don't care
- 9:45Speaker 2: if he wins the primary. We just need him in
- 9:47Speaker 2: the general, right, like get it, Let's get him through
- 9:49Speaker 2: the primary, Like we're happy to do that.
- 9:51Speaker 1: Let's support him in doing that.
- 9:53Speaker 2: Hell if we indict him and that means that more
- 9:55Speaker 2: more people than great, let's do it, right, Like this
- 9:58Speaker 2: is amazing. This It has now become an issue that
- 10:01Speaker 2: we need to have the conversation over. And what is
- 10:05Speaker 2: it that Donald Trump can do to bring in more
- 10:08Speaker 2: people that are on this Republican side That is like
- 10:11Speaker 2: never Trump. Now it's a problem. And this is the
- 10:14Speaker 2: same reason why I wanted Hillary Clinton to get the
- 10:17Speaker 2: nomination in twenty sixteen because her unfavorability rating was just
- 10:23Speaker 2: so high. Seventy four percent of Democratic voters had an
- 10:26Speaker 2: unfavorable opinion of Hillary Clinton. That's Democrats, And what that
- 10:30Speaker 2: means is many of them just don't show up and
- 10:33Speaker 2: vote for you on election day because they're uninspired by you. Now,
- 10:37Speaker 2: if there's a thirteen to seventeen percent of the Republican
- 10:41Speaker 2: voters that are saying they don't like Donald Trump.
- 10:43Speaker 1: We've got a problem.
- 10:46Speaker 2: My advice to overcome this, if I'm sitting in the
- 10:49Speaker 2: campaign war room of the Trump administration or the Trump
- 10:52Speaker 2: campaign today is this, we have to make sure the
- 10:55Speaker 2: president starts talking more about issues and less about the indictments.
- 11:03Speaker 2: He needs to go back to what got him elected
- 11:05Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen. He said, what I am going to
- 11:10Speaker 2: do is I am going to come out and I'm
- 11:12Speaker 2: going to fight hard for this country, to protect and
- 11:16Speaker 2: secure this country.
- 11:17Speaker 1: Remember the border, he said, I'm going to build the
- 11:20Speaker 1: border wall.
- 11:21Speaker 2: Those issues and if you go back to issues base,
- 11:25Speaker 2: if you talk about how your goal is to bring
- 11:27Speaker 2: interest rates down, your goal is to bring down inflation,
- 11:31Speaker 2: your goal is to go back to an economy that's
- 11:34Speaker 2: supported right the American worker. I also think there's a
- 11:40Speaker 2: huge opportunity now for Donald Trump to go back to
- 11:46Speaker 2: the minority community and remind them of what he did.
- 11:50Speaker 2: I mean, you look at what Donald Trump did. The
- 11:52Speaker 2: lowest unemployment rate in history of African Americans, Asian Americans,
- 11:56Speaker 2: single mothers, young African American men, the highest unemployment r
- 12:00Speaker 2: lowest unemployment rate we've ever had. And you look at
- 12:02Speaker 2: what he did to empower people to be able to
- 12:04Speaker 2: take care of themselves and make a living and make
- 12:06Speaker 2: great money. And you look at the cost of living,
- 12:09Speaker 2: you looked at the cost of goods and services. They
- 12:11Speaker 2: were incredibly low back then compared to where they are now.
- 12:15Speaker 2: There's also a stagnation that's happening in the economy right now,
- 12:18Speaker 2: that is, and it's because of lack of opportunity. Let
- 12:22Speaker 2: me explain what I mean by the lack of opportunity
- 12:24Speaker 2: aspect of this. Okay, the lack of the lack of
- 12:28Speaker 2: opportunity that we're now talking about is there are people
- 12:32Speaker 2: that used to be able to look at a house
- 12:34Speaker 2: and say I want that house, and I'm going to
- 12:36Speaker 2: make that leap from renting because it was cheaper to
- 12:39Speaker 2: buy than it was to continue to rent.
- 12:42Speaker 1: That is no longer the case.
- 12:45Speaker 2: Let's take a house for example, right now that's on
- 12:48Speaker 2: the market for exactly two hundred thousand dollars, all right,
- 12:52Speaker 2: that If you look at that house, and you look
- 12:56Speaker 2: at that price, and you say, okay, well what is
- 13:00Speaker 2: what does that look like? Principal and interest on that house,
- 13:05Speaker 2: mortgage insurance, property taxes, home insurance, everything all in Hoaf's
- 13:09Speaker 2: put it all into the average that right now is
- 13:13Speaker 2: going to put you at about one thousand, four hundred
- 13:18Speaker 2: and twenty two dollars. If you have great credit. That's
- 13:23Speaker 2: at a interest rate of six and a half. If
- 13:25Speaker 2: you've got it now. A lot of people the national
- 13:27Speaker 2: average is about seven and a half, So that puts
- 13:30Speaker 2: you at one thousand, five hundred and fifty four dollars.
- 13:33Speaker 2: If Donald Trump goes out there and says, hey, when
- 13:36Speaker 2: I was president, that same loan that now is costing
- 13:40Speaker 2: you over fifteen hundred dollars, and let's use exact numbers here,
- 13:43Speaker 2: you do fifteen hundred and fifty four dollars at the
- 13:46Speaker 2: current interest rate. When I was president, you could have
- 13:50Speaker 2: gotten that same loan, and you know what it would
- 13:53Speaker 2: have been one thousand and eighty nine dollars at two
- 13:56Speaker 2: point seventy five percent interest, he was saving you six
- 14:00Speaker 2: a year.
- 14:00Speaker 1: Are just on your house. Note at a two hundred
- 14:02Speaker 1: thousand dollar house.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Note to a lot of Americans when you hear that,
- 14:06Speaker 2: you just that Donald Trump was saving you over five
- 14:10Speaker 2: hundred a month on a two hundred thousand dollar house
- 14:12Speaker 2: just because of his economy compared to Joe Biden's economy.
- 14:16Speaker 2: That resonates with people. That's six thousand dollars a year.
- 14:20Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that would look at that
- 14:22Speaker 2: and say, Okay, that's a really big deal. Now if
- 14:26Speaker 2: the part that's amazing is the home prices of skyrocketed.
- 14:30Speaker 2: And if you look at this, go to a go
- 14:33Speaker 2: to a half a million dollar house, okay, a half
- 14:36Speaker 2: a million dollars. And this just goes back to the
- 14:38Speaker 2: issue of buying power. It's a simple math equation. It
- 14:42Speaker 2: a half a million dollars. Donald Trump to buy a
- 14:45Speaker 2: half a million dollar house was zero down. Okay, this
- 14:48Speaker 2: is financing all of it. Zero dollars down. Was three
- 14:52Speaker 2: four hundred and eighty eight dollars a month to borrow
- 14:54Speaker 2: half a million dollars if you do the current interest
- 14:57Speaker 2: rate right now, that's skyrockets to five thousand. That's a
- 15:03Speaker 2: fifteen hundred dollars difference per month. Every month you do
- 15:06Speaker 2: fifteen hundred, you're talking about almost twenty grand a year
- 15:09Speaker 2: in savings. The difference between buying that house and not
- 15:13Speaker 2: buying that house was many Americans could afford it under
- 15:16Speaker 2: Donald Trump. They cannot afford it right now under Joe Biden.
- 15:19Speaker 2: These are the issues where people will listen to you
- 15:22Speaker 2: because you're talking about the opportunity and you're talking about
- 15:25Speaker 2: how your dreams are being destroyed by a president of
- 15:31Speaker 2: the United States of America that has taken away the
- 15:33Speaker 2: dream of home ownership, which is a nonpartisan dream. Independence, Republicans,
- 15:37Speaker 2: Democrats dream of home owning a home. And that's why
- 15:41Speaker 2: you look at it now and you see where these
- 15:43Speaker 2: interest rates are, and you see that. Okay, so under Trump,
- 15:46Speaker 2: a house, a half a million dollar house, zero down,
- 15:49Speaker 2: costs me about thirty five hundred, and now it cost
- 15:52Speaker 2: me five grand fifteen hundred dollars a month. You add
- 15:56Speaker 2: up inflation for food and groceries. He needs to go
- 15:58Speaker 2: back to those basic coversations. And if you go back
- 16:02Speaker 2: to those conversations, Okay, if you go back to those
- 16:07Speaker 2: real conversations and you talk about them, and you have
- 16:11Speaker 2: that conversation and you keep it simple stupid as I
- 16:14Speaker 2: call it, It is amazing what can happen. It's amazing
- 16:19Speaker 2: what what? What can what can happen because of this conversation.
- 16:24Speaker 2: I was also talking to someone the other day and
- 16:28Speaker 2: they were asking they were talking about, you know, looking
- 16:30Speaker 2: at housing, and they were talking about just how brutal
- 16:34Speaker 2: taxes have become on houses. A lot of taxes have
- 16:38Speaker 2: gone up, and there's a people have a problem with that.
- 16:41Speaker 2: And I sit there and I'm like, yeah, this is
- 16:43Speaker 2: this is what happens now in this economy. Okay, when
- 16:48Speaker 2: you have it, when you add it all up, and
- 16:52Speaker 2: when you do when you add it all up, folks,
- 16:54Speaker 2: it is it is amazing just how much it's costing
- 16:56Speaker 2: to live. If he can stay focused and just have
- 17:01Speaker 2: that conversation, I think the outcome could be incredible for him.
- 17:06Speaker 2: But he has to go back to the basics. And
- 17:09Speaker 2: that's how you get people say, Okay, I'm willing to
- 17:11Speaker 2: have this conversation with you. Okay, I want to have
- 17:13Speaker 2: this conversation with you. I want to have this conversation.
- 17:17Speaker 2: I want to have this debate. I'm willing to have
- 17:20Speaker 2: this debate. New poll numbers out that look good for
- 17:25Speaker 2: the president if you're winning a primary. I do believe
- 17:29Speaker 2: that Donald Trump's going to get the nomination at this point.
- 17:31Speaker 2: I think it's very clear. But Democrats are hoping that
- 17:34Speaker 2: these numbers, these unfavorables, stay true. The question is what
- 17:38Speaker 2: does Donald Trump need to do to reach out to
- 17:39Speaker 2: others and what does he need to do to make
- 17:42Speaker 2: sure that he is not alienating too many voters For
- 17:46Speaker 2: general elections, there's no way that he can win. You've
- 17:48Speaker 2: got to get fifty plus one. You have to inspire voters,
- 17:51Speaker 2: and if you don't inspire voters, you're going to have
- 17:54Speaker 2: serious issues. Five three five ninety seven three two five
- 17:58Speaker 2: three five nine in three to two, eight hundred number one,
- 18:01Speaker 2: eight hundred four seven four nine seven three to two.
- 18:06Speaker 2: Charlie Sykes, who is a Democrat, he was on TV
- 18:12Speaker 2: this morning.
- 18:12Speaker 1: He acts like he's a Republican. He's not.
- 18:15Speaker 2: And this is what they had to say about this
- 18:17Speaker 2: new poll out, fifty seven percent of Americans saying Trump
- 18:19Speaker 2: should be prosecuted on federal criminal charges.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Listen, close races. I never had close races.
- 18:25Speaker 3: I got angry. If it ever looked like it was
- 18:27Speaker 3: going to be a close race, we ran, and we
- 18:29Speaker 3: ran hard, and we ran to win. And now you've
- 18:31Speaker 3: got people who were running to lose.
- 18:33Speaker 1: They see the numbers, they know they're gonna lose.
- 18:36Speaker 3: And these politicians, you know, it's almost like a doctor
- 18:40Speaker 3: that opens up a patient to see if they have cancer,
- 18:46Speaker 3: finds it all over their body, closes the body and
- 18:51Speaker 3: tells the patient you're fine, you're good, You're going out
- 18:55Speaker 3: clean bill of health. Enjoy yourself for a while when
- 18:58Speaker 3: the doctor knows what's gonna happen. This is what Republican
- 19:01Speaker 3: leaders are doing now. They know they're going to lose
- 19:04Speaker 3: with Trump.
- 19:05Speaker 4: They're followers of the base, and they've been doing this
- 19:07Speaker 4: for seven years. And many of them know obviously that
- 19:11Speaker 4: they're going to lose with Trump, but they also afraid
- 19:13Speaker 4: they will lose without Trump. I mean, this is this
- 19:15Speaker 4: is the corner they put themselves in. They've got a
- 19:19Speaker 4: base that is so rapidly behind the cult leader that
- 19:23Speaker 4: that if Donald Trump is defeated or pushed aside, they're
- 19:28Speaker 4: worried that those voters won't turn out and vote. So
- 19:30Speaker 4: they have to figure out, how do you push past
- 19:33Speaker 4: Donald Trump without antagonizing his base, and nobody has figured
- 19:37Speaker 4: that out yet. But I do think you know, to
- 19:40Speaker 4: your previous questions, I think the debate in Milwaukee next
- 19:42Speaker 4: week is going to be kind of interesting.
- 19:44Speaker 1: And by the way, Joe, I totally agree with you.
- 19:45Speaker 4: I don't think Donald Trump's going to show up, but
- 19:48Speaker 4: we'll see whether or not there. You know, there is
- 19:50Speaker 4: a response to this massive reality check from the other candidates,
- 19:54Speaker 4: whether Tim Scott actually wants to run for president, who
- 19:57Speaker 4: wants to run for vice president? Because if there's going
- 20:01Speaker 4: to be a pivot, it's hard to imagine that it
- 20:04Speaker 4: doesn't happen relatively soon.
- 20:06Speaker 2: I think that there are doomsdayers for sure over there
- 20:10Speaker 2: at MSNBC. But the point that they're making here is
- 20:13Speaker 2: one that we shouldn't overlook. I'm not worried if I'm
- 20:16Speaker 2: on the Trump campaign about the primary.
- 20:18Speaker 1: I think we were going to own it if I'm
- 20:20Speaker 1: on that campaign.
- 20:21Speaker 2: What I'm worried about is the general, and they need
- 20:25Speaker 2: to start pivoting to the general to understand that the general.
- 20:28Speaker 1: Is really, really, really really.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Important, and that the general election is something that you
- 20:34Speaker 2: can't just overlook it, and you can't just say, oh,
- 20:36Speaker 2: it's going to be fine. I'm Donald Trump. You have
- 20:38Speaker 2: to have a strategy more than just I'm Donald Trump.
- 20:41Speaker 2: I'm going to go out there and start talking like
- 20:43Speaker 2: this is a You got to have a strategy that
- 20:48Speaker 2: it makes the American people pay attention those that normally
- 20:53Speaker 2: wouldn't make wouldn't pay attention. Lindsey Graham also last night
- 20:58Speaker 2: was on Hannity and he was talking about the Trump
- 21:01Speaker 2: and Ditman, the politics of this. You're criminalizing a contested election.
- 21:05Speaker 2: There is a chance that you could also use that
- 21:08Speaker 2: if you use it the right way to explain to voters, Hey,
- 21:12Speaker 2: you don't want this in America. This is like the
- 21:14Speaker 2: Banana Republic.
- 21:16Speaker 5: A hurricane never should have happened. He couldn't corroborate a
- 21:19Speaker 5: single item in the Steel dossier, but neither could the
- 21:23Speaker 5: FBI prior to using that dossier in four PHISA warrants
- 21:28Speaker 5: and it says verified and they offered Christopher Steele a
- 21:32Speaker 5: million dollars to corroborate that. How come nobody got held accountable?
- 21:36Speaker 5: And by the way, didn't we have top secret classified
- 21:39Speaker 5: documents and four locations that Joe Biden had.
- 21:42Speaker 6: Well, I think the answer is pretty obvious. You know,
- 21:44Speaker 6: the Clinton people took a hammer to a computer, right,
- 21:50Speaker 6: They took a hammer to the hard drive, They took
- 21:52Speaker 6: bleach bit to wipe away emails, and nothing happened to her.
- 21:56Speaker 6: So in the Mueller investigation, the FB lawyer sent false
- 22:01Speaker 6: information to the FISA Court. The FISA court rebuked the
- 22:06Speaker 6: Department of Justice, and really, nothing's ever happened to those people.
- 22:09Speaker 6: There are no rules when it comes to Donald Trump.
- 22:11Speaker 6: What's happening in Georgia is criminalizing contesting an election. Stacy
- 22:17Speaker 6: Abrams went on television night after night saying she was
- 22:21Speaker 6: cheated and nothing happened to her.
- 22:23Speaker 5: Hillary Clinton that was already Hillary Clinton said the election
- 22:27Speaker 5: was stolen. She said repeatedly Donald Trump was an illegitimate president.
- 22:31Speaker 5: There were groups supporting her that actually were involved in
- 22:35Speaker 5: money raising for quote alternate elective elector schemes. Nothing happens there, well,
- 22:42Speaker 5: apparently not.
- 22:43Speaker 6: The way you fix this is to elect a Republican president,
- 22:47Speaker 6: and it will be Donald Trump the nominee. If they're
- 22:49Speaker 6: trying to give Donald Trump the nomination, they're doing a
- 22:52Speaker 6: hell of a good job. I think Republicans are rallying
- 22:54Speaker 6: around President Trump.
- 22:55Speaker 1: I thought he was a great president. I thought he
- 22:58Speaker 1: got it right. He's secured by the way.
- 23:01Speaker 2: I think the point he's making their spot on like
- 23:03Speaker 2: they're trying to give it to them. They think he's
- 23:05Speaker 2: the easiest to beat because these poll numbers, and if
- 23:07Speaker 2: you look at these poll numbers, you're not inaccurate in this.
- 23:11Speaker 2: But as he just described it, Republicans are going to
- 23:13Speaker 2: have to start rallying and remembering what he did as president.
- 23:16Speaker 2: But that's the job of the Trump team to remind
- 23:20Speaker 2: them of what it was like when he was the president.
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- 23:26Speaker 2: bigger and bigger. One of them is powered by everyday
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- 24:54Speaker 2: House and Senate Republicans are teaming up to crack down
- 24:58Speaker 2: on the FTC for destroying documents related to a congressional probe.
- 25:04Speaker 1: This breaking overnight.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Top Republicans on Capitol Hill are now vowing a major
- 25:09Speaker 2: crackdown on the Federal Trade Commission for allegedly destroying documents
- 25:13Speaker 2: related to a congressional probe. By deleting the documents, the
- 25:16Speaker 2: FTC likely violated federal law. It also impeded Congressional oversight
- 25:23Speaker 2: of the FTC recent unprecedented actions, including its proposed rule
- 25:28Speaker 2: banning non compete clauses. That's what Senator Ted Cruz, a
- 25:33Speaker 2: Texas Republican and ranking member on the Senate Commerce, Science,
- 25:36Speaker 2: and Transportation Committee wrote in a letter to the FTC chairman,
- 25:40Speaker 2: which was dated for Thursday, and it was released to
- 25:43Speaker 2: the public. Congress and the public deserve an exclamation of
- 25:48Speaker 2: why the FTC improperly destroyed records, what records it improperly destroyed,
- 25:54Speaker 2: and what steps will be taken to ensure it never
- 25:57Speaker 2: happens again, is what CRUs written a statement. He was
- 26:00Speaker 2: also joined by Representative Jim Jordan, an Ohio Republican and
- 26:03Speaker 2: chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and Representative James comer At,
- 26:07Speaker 2: Kentucky Republican, the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight
- 26:10Speaker 2: and Accountability. The letter by Republican legislators comes about a
- 26:14Speaker 2: year and a half after the FTC's in house watchdog,
- 26:18Speaker 2: the Office of Inspector General, found multiple failures and the
- 26:22Speaker 2: FTC's record keeping process. How convenient right. The Republicans are
- 26:27Speaker 2: now alleging that the FTC in properly deleted documents on
- 26:31Speaker 2: purpose that Jordan had requested in relation to the agency's
- 26:37Speaker 2: new rule that would ban private sector employees from requiring
- 26:41Speaker 2: workers to sign non compete clauses that restrict them from
- 26:47Speaker 2: working for competitors or starting new businesses that offer similar
- 26:51Speaker 2: services for.
- 26:52Speaker 1: A period of time.
- 26:53Speaker 2: Now, this obviously is an important case because this could
- 26:57Speaker 2: impact you if you've ever sent noncompete. Jordan in February
- 27:03Speaker 2: said the rule would wipe out roughly thirty million existing
- 27:07Speaker 2: non compete agreements, and while the FTC highlights estimated benefit
- 27:13Speaker 2: of the rule, it made little effort to qualify the costs.
- 27:17Speaker 1: According to Jordan.
- 27:18Speaker 2: Jordan said the rule exceeds the Commission's delegated authority and
- 27:22Speaker 2: impose a top down, one size fits all approach that
- 27:26Speaker 2: violates basic American principles of federalism and free markets. Jordan
- 27:31Speaker 2: saw at the time, among other things, documents related to
- 27:34Speaker 2: the litigation risk due to rule making, the economic analysis
- 27:38Speaker 2: related to the rule making, and the communications between the
- 27:42Speaker 2: FTC and third parties about the rule making in May,
- 27:46Speaker 2: the FTC just happened to inform the House Judiciary Committee
- 27:49Speaker 2: staff that it had deleted material likely responsive to the
- 27:54Speaker 2: committee's requests, including records of employees on detail from the
- 28:00Speaker 2: Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, who led all of the FTC's
- 28:05Speaker 2: rule making. This is where the cover up comes in.
- 28:08Speaker 2: The FDC's deletion of documents responsive to a congressional inquiry
- 28:12Speaker 2: underscores the OIG's conclusion in twenty twenty two that the
- 28:17Speaker 2: FTC has not prioritized records management nor embedded it as
- 28:22Speaker 2: a value of the agency's culture. Why did they do
- 28:25Speaker 2: this because they didn't want you to see what they
- 28:28Speaker 2: were actually doing. Moreover, it suggests that the agency is
- 28:34Speaker 2: not committed to complying with the law, and that it
- 28:36Speaker 2: may continue to elete records that are relevant to ongoing investigations.
- 28:41Speaker 2: This is not how a federal agency should be run,
- 28:44Speaker 2: they wrote. The GOP Trio notes in their letter that
- 28:48Speaker 2: the federal law imposes important record keeping equipment on the FTC.
- 28:53Speaker 2: The Federal Records Act requires the head of every federal
- 28:57Speaker 2: agency to make and preserve records about the agency functions, policies, decisions, procedures,
- 29:03Speaker 2: and essential transactions. It further requires agency heads to establish
- 29:07Speaker 2: and maintain a record scheduling process, pursuant to which the
- 29:11Speaker 2: agency must identify the records. It has, determine how long
- 29:15Speaker 2: each of the records is deemed valuable, and when there
- 29:17Speaker 2: is no longer a need for them at the agency
- 29:19Speaker 2: request authority to either legally destroy the records or transfer
- 29:23Speaker 2: them to the National Archives. So, in translation, I want
- 29:26Speaker 2: you to understand what they did here. They said, hey,
- 29:28Speaker 2: we want these documents, and in response to asking for
- 29:31Speaker 2: those documents, they stonewalled for a little over a year,
- 29:35Speaker 2: and then they said, oh, whoops, are bad. We don't
- 29:38Speaker 2: know what to do, like our bad, Like just sorry,
- 29:41Speaker 2: are bad? We just lost these documents. Well we didn't
- 29:45Speaker 2: really lose them, Okay. What we did was we destroyed them.
- 29:48Speaker 2: So the documents that we needed you destroyed. Yep, that's
- 29:51Speaker 2: exactly what we did. I just want you to think
- 29:55Speaker 2: about that and what that actually means.
- 29:58Speaker 3: It is.
- 30:00Speaker 2: I think incredibly shocking that this is now what this
- 30:06Speaker 2: government does when they're asked a question and or they're
- 30:10Speaker 2: asked about something that clearly is extremely important. If they
- 30:14Speaker 2: know they're caught, they're then saying, well, we'll just destroy
- 30:17Speaker 2: the records. Now, if you and I do that in theory,
- 30:20Speaker 2: right when they're officially, if someone from a government agency
- 30:22Speaker 2: is asking for them, what are they gonna do. I
- 30:25Speaker 2: think you guys know what's gonna happen. They're gonna come
- 30:28Speaker 2: after us to the way of the government. They're gonna
- 30:30Speaker 2: charge us with crimes. If you did this after the
- 30:33Speaker 2: government asked for your records for anything that they were
- 30:35Speaker 2: dealing with, it would be game on and you would
- 30:38Speaker 2: be probably prosecuted. But the people that run the FTC,
- 30:42Speaker 2: and we're talking about millions of documents, they just decided
- 30:45Speaker 2: to ask screw it, We're just gonna delete them. Then
- 30:48Speaker 2: you guys won't ever be able to see what we
- 30:50Speaker 2: were actually doing, and that means that we win, you
- 30:53Speaker 2: guys lose. That's pretty much the easiest way that I
- 30:59Speaker 2: can explain how this went down and what happened. This
- 31:04Speaker 2: was done deliberately on purpose, right, I mean, I mean
- 31:08Speaker 2: that's this was This was clearly a very calculated decision.
- 31:14Speaker 2: This was a decision that they said was worth the risk,
- 31:17Speaker 2: and they basically said, we don't believe we're going to
- 31:19Speaker 2: get in trouble for this. We might get our hands slapped,
- 31:22Speaker 2: But the Democrats will cover for us because what we're
- 31:25Speaker 2: doing now, we can do whatever the hell we want
- 31:27Speaker 2: to do whenever we want to do it, and we
- 31:30Speaker 2: feel good about it. And that's really what's happened here
- 31:32Speaker 2: like that, That's that's how this has gone down. This
- 31:36Speaker 2: is also you may say, well, I don't really care
- 31:38Speaker 2: that much, this doesn't affect me. It's a pattern, and
- 31:42Speaker 2: that's why you should care. It is a pattern of
- 31:46Speaker 2: corruption that is consistent with this administration and with anything
- 31:52Speaker 2: they don't want you to see. They just say, all right,
- 31:54Speaker 2: we're just gonna delete it, right, We're just We're just
- 31:57Speaker 2: we're just gonna get rid of it.
- 31:59Speaker 1: By deleting it, and.
- 32:02Speaker 2: None of you are gonna see it, like none of
- 32:05Speaker 2: you are gonna be able to witness what we did
- 32:08Speaker 2: in the past.
- 32:09Speaker 1: We won't let that happen.
- 32:11Speaker 2: And I think that is the biggest problem of everything
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