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Tipid's Dungeon Exit - Episode 17 This Inevitable Ruin · The Apocalypse Will Be Podcasted

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  Hello, and this is the Apocalypse Will Be Podcasted.
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  We are a married couple from Atlanta with boring
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  day jobs. We have been together 12 years, and
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  we usually create a lot of weird performance
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  art to entertain people. But we are trying our
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  hand at having a podcast because we have had
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  an obsession lately, and that obsession is Dungeon
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  Crawler Carl. This is a spoilers podcast, and
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  we will be discussing plot points from all seven
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  Dungeon Crawler Carl books. You should not start
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  this podcast until you have finished book seven.
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  We will not be discussing anything from Patreon
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  or the Pineapple Cabaret. There are spoilers
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  from this point forward. Be warned. Okay, so
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  this should actually be a short chapter. Yes,
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  it is a pretty short chapter and it gives you
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  some kind of sad backstory and detipid, but I
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  don't think that it's very plot heavy. by any
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  means, I think just kind of continues in the
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  pattern of showing you kind of the trauma and
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  guilt that a lot of the former cookbook authors
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  carry with them. That applies to a lot of former
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  crawlers in general, not just cookbook authors.
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  I think in Tippett specifically, there is a metaphor
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  that's happening and that he has brain damage
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  and his brain can't function outside of the dungeon,
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  which I think... Well, not without medical care.
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  Exactly. But I think that's showing that once
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  you go into the dungeon, you stay in the dungeon.
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  He literally can't get out until he gets medical
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  care because his brain remains trapped there.
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  Yeah, he has a lot of pretty horrific injuries
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  to his body, but especially his brain. And that
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  kind of makes it really sad when later in this
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  book that he loses his memory. It says here that
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  his contract is up, but he still thinks he's
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  meeting with his attorney from when he first
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  got out. And he doesn't have any memories of
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  being a game guide. Which is very interesting
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  because this meeting that's taking place right
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  here is kind of in like a zero zone, essentially.
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  So Tippett is in his natural state, so to speak,
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  like what happens to Carl when he goes into a
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  zero zone. He loses all of his strength and everything
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  and feels like he's being pulled down by gravity
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  itself. And I think Tippett does regain some
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  of those memories because when he's talking to
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  Carl in the next chapter, he does say, you know,
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  you're getting everything that's in. all of our
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  brains. So I think that is fixed once he gets
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  the health care he needs, but he hasn't gotten
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  it at this point. Right. And so it's interesting
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  this meeting that he's having. Yeah. He like
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  thinks that he just left the floor. That was
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  a very traumatic exit for him. And yeah, he's
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  not remembering that he's already fulfilled his
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  entire indentureship contract. And the character
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  here that's talking to him is the mysterious
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  and elusive Damien, who only has. Three or four
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  references in the entire series. And yeah, he
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  definitely has this role that he plays as being
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  a dungeon exit coordinator for indentured crawlers.
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  And he meets with them before they finally leave
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  the dungeon and go back out into the real world.
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  Yeah, but he has a lot of contempt for crawlers
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  as we see both in this chapter and the Teppit
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  chapter before this. I don't necessarily think
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  that he does have contempt for them, especially
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  if you listen to the audiobook version of this.
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  He has some fakeness in the way that he talks,
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  but he does actually try and show some kindness
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  and enthusiasm of like, hey, you're out of here,
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  you get to go and live your life. Maybe that's
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  fake, but he does at least put on a show of caring.
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  I don't think that that's Tepid's interpretation
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  of the situation, though, because he said he
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  smiled the way a merchant would smile, a merchant
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  who was forced to deal with a customer he despised.
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  Yeah, I mean, there's the fake show that someone
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  puts on and how they actually feel. But at least
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  like what we saw with Porthas's lawyer earlier
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  in the book, who just didn't even put any effort
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  into giving a single solitary fuck about Porthas.
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  So it's definitely an interesting role that this
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  Damien guy plays. But let's continue on here.
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  Yeah, Pippa just keeps going back over things
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  that happened at the end of the crawl. even though
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  it's actually probably been a very long time
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  since then. But until he gets his brain fixed,
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  he can't move on, which is some pretty heavy
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  symbolism as well. One of the things that I think
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  is interesting in this chapter is that his attorney
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  lets him know that he is getting health care
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  from the viceroys. And this is how he describes
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  them. He remembered the viceroys, the masked
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  monsters during Fraction Wars. They called themselves
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  the Madness. Their chief surgeon had a spell
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  that cooked your brain. It made your teeth fall
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  out. It made the liquid in your eyeballs turn
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  to acid and then explode over your own face.
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  That is what had happened to Rosalyn. Pretty
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  dark, and we do see a lot of really messed up
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  behavior from the Viceroy's in this season of
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  Faction Wars. Well, and I think that this is
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  the same person. I think that this is still Admiral
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  Houston. It very likely is, even if it's not
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  specifically stated here, but... That would track,
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  especially with the mention of her chief surgeon
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  and his operating theater. Yeah, I think it is
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  personally. Yeah, and they have a very, the Viceroy's
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  have this obsession with changing their bodies
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  and like seeing the extent of what bodies can
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  do. And they do kind of use this to their benefit
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  of providing like advanced health care to people.
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  That's kind of, I guess, their niche that they
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  serve in the syndicate and in the inner system.
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  Yeah, but it does come at a price, which is they're
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  getting information from every surgery that they
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  do. And they're making new discoveries. And we're
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  going to talk about this a little bit more later.
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  Yeah, absolutely. The reason that Tippett is
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  going to the Viceroy system where he's going
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  to get health care done. is because there is
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  a new outreach organization that helps former
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  crawlers after they leave the dungeon and finish
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  their indentureship, which is the Crawler Project
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  founded by Dr. Porthas Hu. I don't think that
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  Tippett has much of a choice here. Like, he's
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  barely cognizant. Like, even if he was getting
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  just handed over directly to Architect Houston
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  with no safeguards in place, I think he would
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  still have to do it. Yeah, absolutely. He would.
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  I mean, he doesn't really have a choice here.
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  And I think for any indentured crawler leaving
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  the dungeon that I think that they would absolutely
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  choose to be helped out by this organization.
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  I don't see any reason why they wouldn't want
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  that, especially knowing that it's being ran
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  by former crawlers. Well, and something that's
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  interesting is I think is heavily implied by
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  the books that Tippett is the reason that they
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  changed the policy that. you don't automatically
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  get health care when you get out. Yes. Yeah,
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  he absolutely does. I mean, Porthas does so very
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  much to help crawlers because of that drive that
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  he got from having the cookbook. And I do wonder
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  if he had not received the cookbook, would he
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  have come to the same drive and motivation to
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  help crawlers after he got out of the dungeon?
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  I think so, because we see it from everyone.
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  Yeah, we definitely do. And something that I've...
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  We've talked about in the other cookbook author
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  chapters that we've covered so far that there
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  is this sense of similarity between the former
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  cookbook authors of kind of that, you know, you
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  will not break me, like I'm going to burn all
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  of this down. But that is actually stated like
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  when Carl gets the cookbook that by having this,
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  let's burn it all down to the ground. And I think
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  that the way the AI decides who gets the cookbook
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  and who it comes to, is aligned with that crawler
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  having that kind of personality about them. I
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  think so. And then just one more quick note about
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  this chapter is Tepid had negotiated a longer
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  contract so he could hold on to the key from
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  his crawl because that was very important for
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  him. But at the end of this chapter, he says
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  that he doesn't want it anymore and he gives
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  it back. Yeah, and I wonder why he did decide
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  to keep that key because the key... was what
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  he used to get from one floor to the next. He
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  used it to get through a door, and it ended up
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  getting his fellow crawler Horatio killed. So
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  it's like he decides to hold onto this key as
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  a reminder of his shame associated with it. Yeah,
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  and I think him giving him back shows that he's
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  ready to move on from that. Yeah. A lot of these
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  crawlers have a lot of very complicated feelings
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  from their crawl. Yeah, it is very fair. They
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  don't have agency over themselves and the environment
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  that they find themselves in. Really dark. It
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  is, but we are going to be covering one of our
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  favorite chapters next week. And we will just
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  close this out by reading how the chapter ends.
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  So, Hippid, Class, Poisoner, Race, Crest, Earth
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  Race, Crest, Top Level, 96. Wow. dungeon exit
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  took feel at the beginning of the 12th floor
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  worked as a game guide and guild hill instructor
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  in the poisoner guild before exiting the dungeon
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  wow 96 is high or wow 96 is low hey hi it's pretty
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  low i mean maybe for the 12th floor i don't know
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  i mean aren't donut and lena both at like 120
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  130 as of the end of the night yeah but they
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  did some kind of crazy shit that no one has ever
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  done before i like killing like thousands and
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  thousands like 20 000 people at once I think
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  that that had a pretty strong effect on that.
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  I think there was never a war crime before this.
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  They only talked about war crimes while being
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  used by other outworlder factions. Anyways, so
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  he was forced to spend the entirety of his pension
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  plus take out an additional loan to repair the
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  extensive damage to his brain. Eventually retired
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  to a crest system to work for a waste management
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  company. Interesting. Author of the fourth edition
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  of the Dungeon Anarchist cookbook. Current status.
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  Colonel and the Princess Posse Faction Wars team.
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  Editor's note here. I know today's episode is
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  really short. We originally planned to air this
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  episode at the same time as another episode,
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  but ended up getting behind schedule. Next week
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  is going to be a full -length episode. Thanks
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