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Rapper Lecrae partners with Experian to Hosts Financial Education Web Series 'Protect the Bag' | Actor Vaughn Hebron talks "The Game Reboot," Wendy Raquel Robinson, first call with Tyler Perry and more! · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: is Von Hebron. Here is the let creis on fire.
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  Speaker 1: nine one one I'm a fan. I'm just put it
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  Speaker 1: out in front. I'm a big fan of his from jump.
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  Speaker 1: Let me get all the credits as we can start talking.
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  Speaker 1: I noticed his talents. So for the first time, Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Prayer is the Oval. That's when he came into my
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  Speaker 1: life that first season. But it does not stop there.
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  Speaker 1: He's appearing right now Will Smith new movie Keen Richards.
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  Speaker 1: He's also the Devil Know you're coming out in two
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  Speaker 1: opposite My Boys or my Epps and Michael Eally who
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  Speaker 1: also been on my show. We're gonna talk about Vonne
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  Speaker 1: new lead role. And they send me some clips on
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  Speaker 1: your bones, so we're gonna talk about that. You're surprised,
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  Speaker 1: the popular the Game, everybody knows The Game. Serious revival
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  Speaker 1: out on Paramount Plus. The show premiered on Paramount Plus
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  Speaker 1: on November eleven of this year. He'll be talking about
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  Speaker 1: his rising career, his journey uh pivot him from a
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  Speaker 1: corporate life, pursuing his acting and his dream. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what we really want to talk about. That making that leap.
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  Speaker 1: But all people talking about making a leap of faith
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  Speaker 1: following their passion, but he did it, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: talk about that because it always comes with consequences that
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  Speaker 1: we can't control. But it's all positive because you live
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  Speaker 1: in your dream and getting rolled successfully in such a
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  Speaker 1: short period of time. What he has learned, what's been
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  Speaker 1: an integral, integral part to his success on his own journey.
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  Speaker 1: This thus far please working to money making conversations, Vaughan Hebron,
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate you being man well. First of all, um
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  Speaker 1: Let's park. Where are you from? Vaughan? Where are you from?
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  Speaker 1: Originally brought him of Maryland. Huh really brought him in Maryland,
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  Speaker 1: and Uh went to high school in Pennsylvania and the
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  Speaker 1: college at Lafya College, Pennsylvania before I started traveling. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: in my pharmaceutical career. Okay, pharmaceuticals. So that was a
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  Speaker 1: professional way of saying you were selling drugs for a living.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was professional dope dealing. Okay, you go,
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  Speaker 1: And nothing wrong with that because the people do it
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  Speaker 1: for real, and that people do it on the streets,
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  Speaker 1: and people in the streets, those people get in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: Now use out there now that I have a couple
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  Speaker 1: of friends about who are professional pharmaceutical sale people and
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  Speaker 1: they made a good living. They enjoy their life drive
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  Speaker 1: nice cars, nice houses. Vaughn. Okay, okay, I'm assuming you
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  Speaker 1: can look and guy articulate, kind of nice shape. You're
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  Speaker 1: probably have there being very successful, weren't you selling? Thank Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, having it was my first real
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  Speaker 1: job out of college. Um, you know, and your your
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  Speaker 1: mid twenties having a pharmaceutical job. You know, things are
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  Speaker 1: getting paid for, checks are coming in, and you're living
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  Speaker 1: a good life. So it was definitely a career that
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  Speaker 1: my parents are proud of and that everybody from the
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  Speaker 1: outside looking in just thought, hey, you already made it
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  Speaker 1: at such an early time in your life, which was
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  Speaker 1: even more of course interested when I shifted and left
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  Speaker 1: that and go into acting. But uh, to your point,
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  Speaker 1: most definitely it's it's a great career, and um, I
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  Speaker 1: would go back to it if I wasn't happy what
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing. Well, you know that that's really interesting because
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  Speaker 1: the offer I was just telling you like that happened
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  Speaker 1: to me. You know. I was my degrees in mathematics,
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  Speaker 1: my miners, and sociology, graduated from University of Houston and Houston, Texas,
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  Speaker 1: and got a job at IBM. In fact, I was
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  Speaker 1: working with IBM two and a half years part time
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  Speaker 1: before I you know, send it to a full time opportunity,
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  Speaker 1: had the car, had their apartment, had the social life,
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  Speaker 1: all that good stuff, boxes, all those boxes. But I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't satisfied because from a creative standpoint, I wasn't. I
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  Speaker 1: would never say I was not happy because the best
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  Speaker 1: time in my life. I still live off those life experiences.
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  Speaker 1: But something was missing though on what was missing? When
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  Speaker 1: you because you did all the right thing, I checked,
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  Speaker 1: check check what was missing? I think for me? What
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  Speaker 1: was I know? For me what was missing was um,
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  Speaker 1: the the feeling that I was actually accomplishing something for
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  Speaker 1: myself right, the feeling that I was uh making myself
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  Speaker 1: happy before others that I was, That I was accomplishing
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  Speaker 1: things because I wanted to do it, opposed to just
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  Speaker 1: you know, the societal standards of making money, getting a resume.
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  Speaker 1: UM having this position, that position. It was like when
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  Speaker 1: I stepped back and said that, am I really happy
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  Speaker 1: hanging my hat on this besides everybody else's? Is this
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  Speaker 1: what I wanted to say that I'm doing? I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: say that. You know, I was going through emotions. I
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  Speaker 1: was going through the emotions. I was looking for another
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  Speaker 1: reason to get out of bed having morning besides just
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  Speaker 1: just fulfilling these certain duties that look good on paper,
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  Speaker 1: and they looked up by societal standards. Right. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's really interesting when I when I bring guests like
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  Speaker 1: you on the Money Making Conversation because a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people they wait to a certain point in life where
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  Speaker 1: they make a decision. And maybe I always took you.
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  Speaker 1: There's no excuse. A should never be an excuse. And
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  Speaker 1: then like when I left IBM, I made that decision
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  Speaker 1: a year in advance, and I and I was and
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  Speaker 1: I would tell people in the show. I've said many time,
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  Speaker 1: I was brought to tears by that decision because it
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  Speaker 1: was such a tough decision because I wasn't sure, but
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  Speaker 1: I know if I wanted to be happy long term,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want to look back thirty years and go,
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  Speaker 1: what if? What was that decision making process with you? Von?
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  Speaker 1: You know, to which has led to the oval, which
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  Speaker 1: has led to the game, which has led to so
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  Speaker 1: many other opportunities that we're gonna talk about it. But
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  Speaker 1: what really because it was nothing out that that guaranteed you,
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  Speaker 1: because that was a guaranteed help benefits guaranteed, check, guarantee,
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  Speaker 1: rippy and pay. It came every week, fifth of the
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  Speaker 1: twice a month, it came. It was the stability, and
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  Speaker 1: it was it was the stability. It was, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a very a stable, safe environment that you're in. And
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  Speaker 1: I guess the process for me was first realizing that
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't fulfilled, you know. And I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people actually feel this sometimes and they struggle with it.
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  Speaker 1: They may not be able to put their finger on
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  Speaker 1: what it is, but it's the feeling of I'm not
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  Speaker 1: I'm not happy for myself. I'm not um fulfilling my potential.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm getting up every day because I have to,
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  Speaker 1: not because I want you, And I think understanding and
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  Speaker 1: being aware of that first and foremost. Once you have
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  Speaker 1: that awareness, then you can start making decisions from there
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  Speaker 1: and you know, understanding why you feel that way, understanding
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  Speaker 1: how you can change that way, and then starting yourself
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  Speaker 1: on the course um to change your life. So for me,
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  Speaker 1: it was again understanding one day that you know, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't happy, and then starting to think of other things
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  Speaker 1: that would made me happy, Understanding my passions, understanding things
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  Speaker 1: that I like to do when nobody's family to do it.
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  Speaker 1: When nobody's forcing me to do it, what do I
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  Speaker 1: find myself doing? And that's where I started to draw,
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  Speaker 1: you know, eventually got into acting classes because I've always
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  Speaker 1: loved movies. I've always loved television. Nobody ever had to
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  Speaker 1: make me do that. I'll be on the TV watching
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  Speaker 1: my television all day, you know. So it was it
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  Speaker 1: was first understanding that and that's what led me to
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  Speaker 1: the course of actions that got me eventually here we
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  Speaker 1: were talking to Vaughan Hebron, he starved a new series
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  Speaker 1: on Paramount Plus streaming the game. Uh, we're gonna I
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  Speaker 1: want to jump a little bit of here because now
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  Speaker 1: this is a lead role. So this is all about you,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because you you know, they a lot of
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  Speaker 1: more pressure, you know about it, And obviously they've sent
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  Speaker 1: me up sizzle cut sampling and I got that met Man,
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  Speaker 1: you look like you really complete the game with football,
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  Speaker 1: you really, you know, I would tell you so, man,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because you know, I like when I was
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  Speaker 1: I've been and uh when I did when I was
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  Speaker 1: co executive of the Jamie Foxx show way back when
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  Speaker 1: when he did, uh, you know, the movie with Appucino
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  Speaker 1: the football when we played the quarter back. You know,
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  Speaker 1: he got in shape, man and he and he played
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  Speaker 1: that role. That was actually the role that the launched
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  Speaker 1: his career, especially as a dramatic actor, because he was
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  Speaker 1: only name is known as a comedian. And when you
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  Speaker 1: go back and they throw that ball to you and
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  Speaker 1: you catching you running man down the sideline like a
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  Speaker 1: like a like a professional wide receiver. Talk about the
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  Speaker 1: reality of being able to say, I want people to
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  Speaker 1: feel I can actually play this in real life too,
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  Speaker 1: if he was given the opportunity. Because man, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: tell you something, I was impressed by your your where
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  Speaker 1: you adapted the role and also where you feed you.
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  Speaker 1: You actually like I could actually see you catching a
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  Speaker 1: ball from Kyler Murray from Arizona Carner. I could actually
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  Speaker 1: believe that. Talk about that experience, Well, for me, it
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  Speaker 1: was I was very adamant about doing my own stunts
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  Speaker 1: for this role. I was very adamant about having me
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  Speaker 1: in there as much as possible to not only sell
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  Speaker 1: Um Jamison Fields being that character, being that guy, but
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  Speaker 1: also to you know, give myself a chance to realize
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  Speaker 1: my potential. I haven't played Um college football obviously, since like,
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  Speaker 1: you know two, But I'm somebody who stays in shape.
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  Speaker 1: I'm somebody who's always active. And these are the roles
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  Speaker 1: that I worked for. These are the roles that I
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  Speaker 1: trained so hard for. So I was not going to
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  Speaker 1: let a stunt double get in there and just you know,
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  Speaker 1: do all the work. I said, put me in as
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  Speaker 1: much as possible, and in that environment, I honestly, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: I forgot I was acting. Honestly that I was acting.
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  Speaker 1: It was it felt like like being back on the field.
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  Speaker 1: The pressure of the nerves, the being the star on
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  Speaker 1: the field, being that guy. It was everything that I
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  Speaker 1: had grown accustomed to and had experience with. So for me,
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  Speaker 1: it was an easy transition just to bring all of
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  Speaker 1: that show, all the nerves into the scene, into these
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  Speaker 1: moments and really show up. So it was it was
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you here was a lot of work.
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  Speaker 1: But j just cut you off right there because I
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  Speaker 1: want to let you know, you know, I've been fortunate.
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  Speaker 1: You know manager Steve Harvey, currently manager Steve Nie Smith,
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  Speaker 1: you know Nick Cannon, and you know Kevin Hard, Jamie Fox,
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  Speaker 1: Robert Hows and Twins, Tia and Tomorrow, Marlway to gather.
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  Speaker 1: I've been around a lot of stars, Monique, and I've
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  Speaker 1: been able to sit down and coach them, motivate them.
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  Speaker 1: And the reality is all tied to hard work. Every
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  Speaker 1: name I mentioned, they're still successful because of hard work.
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  Speaker 1: And so what I loved about what I saw was that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I see you take off, I need see
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  Speaker 1: a little skinny guy then catching the ball. I knew
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  Speaker 1: that was you catching the ball. So by setting that
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  Speaker 1: that that standard, the respect level on the set went
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  Speaker 1: up because I could you, I could, I can tell
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  Speaker 1: you right now, because all remember of actors. They were
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  Speaker 1: actors who suddenly when I can't do that right? And
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  Speaker 1: so that was you know, when you when you're trying
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  Speaker 1: to step in. I remember when Steve Harvey what was
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  Speaker 1: doing this first sitcom and ninety four and that's where
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  Speaker 1: carved the show, gave it. She came in as a
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  Speaker 1: love interest way back then in ninety four ninety five,
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  Speaker 1: and you know it was it was, you know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people giving Steve flat because
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  Speaker 1: he was a comedian. Suddenly he was giving a star
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  Speaker 1: and role in the sitcom and people talking about he
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  Speaker 1: fact that you know, a lot of people they say
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  Speaker 1: they want to dream, they wanted, but then again they
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  Speaker 1: don't want to show up and put the work out
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  Speaker 1: and to work in because, like you said, you you
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  Speaker 1: were hand raisers. I always tell people being a hand
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  Speaker 1: raiser just because that's not because a lot of people said, well,
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  Speaker 1: they don't pay me to do that. Well, you did
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  Speaker 1: a hand raise. Look I want to do that, and
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  Speaker 1: that in turn gives me more respect. And I kid
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  Speaker 1: you not man your career. Once people see this series
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  Speaker 1: more and more than all your body of work. Brother,
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  Speaker 1: you you're gonna be working for a long time on
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much. Seriously,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna be working for a long time because of
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  Speaker 1: the fact that you know the credibility that you gave me,
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  Speaker 1: and you know the fact that you know, I know
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  Speaker 1: we was up to. It was like a couple of
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  Speaker 1: reach scared us and no, no, no, whatever he could,
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  Speaker 1: whatever he scared, I want to interview him because I
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  Speaker 1: really enjoy you and I love meeting young talent like
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  Speaker 1: you because that's my job. My job is to meet
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  Speaker 1: people like you've all and then tell you how special
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  Speaker 1: We party your game. And that's why I mentioned when
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  Speaker 1: they were Carl Robinson, when I made her name in
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  Speaker 1: four D Queen dude acting every year, right every year,
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  Speaker 1: every year, and she was just such an example for us,
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  Speaker 1: her leadership skills, her her motherly but also like tough
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  Speaker 1: love skills. Like she she is such a prime example
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  Speaker 1: of somebody who has paved the way for other people
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  Speaker 1: to get to that same level, and she does it
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  Speaker 1: consistently with her hard work. Absolutely. Now let's let's let's
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  Speaker 1: go to my favorite show. When I first saw your
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  Speaker 1: own the Oval, The Oval. Okay, let's let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: was that your first that's Tyler Paris The Oval, which
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  Speaker 1: is very popular, one of the most popular shows on BT. UM.
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  Speaker 1: I meant this, I saw I ever met this year.
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  Speaker 1: I saw him. That's when he came into my life.
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  Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan of The Oval. And he played
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  Speaker 1: this son, you know, his wife and he had a
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  Speaker 1: child and then she goes she got caught up into
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  Speaker 1: this coat just because you don't know, the back store
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  Speaker 1: and then he had a little he had an affair
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  Speaker 1: on the side. You know, his characters all best stuff
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  Speaker 1: y'all of the place. You know, he was kind of
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  Speaker 1: selling drugs, but he wasn't selling he he was like,
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about that relationship with Tyler Perry, how did
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  Speaker 1: this start? Before we started having fun with The Oval
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  Speaker 1: because it was a fun character because it's over the time. Well, um,
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  Speaker 1: interestingly enough, you know, Tyler, he actually saw me on
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  Speaker 1: a comedy spook that I did for the Zous Network,
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  Speaker 1: and um, he saw that and it was that was
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  Speaker 1: all improv. That was it was scripted, but it was
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  Speaker 1: basically all improv and it was just like a comedy
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  Speaker 1: fun thing. Um, and it was on YouTube and then
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  Speaker 1: on Zeus network and he saw it because a couple
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  Speaker 1: of people in the play that he did on his
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  Speaker 1: last tour. I mentioned it to him and so he
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  Speaker 1: eventually caught me up right directly called my phone and uh,
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  Speaker 1: he was like going, Heaven, Tyler Perry here, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with you and that's right. And so you know, I'm
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  Speaker 1: literally in my bedroom having a conversation with Tyler Perry
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  Speaker 1: on the phone and he this down flow just then. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I remember when all cityr Hall called me. I was
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  Speaker 1: driving in l A, Okay, and uh, this is the
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• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I went, okay, I actually hung up on that's to
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: do stop this, stop to stop, stop stop playing with me,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: and I hug up the phone on it. He come, hey, man,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: this is just really on senior Okay. That's okay. Cool.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: And you know those moments man, when people at that
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: statue and believe me, Tyler Perry way bigger than a
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Senior Hall. So that's why I got to slow him down.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: See people like Vone, they missed the moment because it happened.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: But she it's a blessing because Tyler does this all
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: the time, and I laughed with him because he had
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: called people up and had these regular conversations. And then
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: on the other end of the phone, they're hard jumping
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: out their chest, they mind screaming, I can't believe this.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: They're trying to go where it's is gonna go with offer.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I made it talk about that emotion, Vaughn. With Tyler
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: called you. You broke the reality that it was Tyler Perry,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: and then you broke down to do this casual conversation
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: you're talking about, right right, I mean, first of all,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: all right, So first of all, I got it heads
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: up that Tyler has spotted me. One of the gas
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: makes text me and say, hey, um, Tyler asked about you.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I gave him your number. I hope that's okay, And
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I'm right, of course that's okay. But you know, you know,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: when you when you hear stuff like that, you're thinking
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: this may or may not turn into something. He's not
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: gonna he's not. He's for sure not directly gonna contact me.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: And if anybody ever contacts me on behalf of him,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be six months from now and years and
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: now whatever. And so it was literally two minutes later
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  Speaker 1: that I see a four or four number pop up
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, this can't be in And as soon
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: as I answered the phone, I know his boys, I
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  Speaker 1: knew his voice, and I'm stuttering, um um, I'm thinking,
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  Speaker 1: there is no possible way that he's calling me. And
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  Speaker 1: I know he's calling me. I'm know I'm talking to him,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: but this is not real, this is not happening. This
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: is surreal, um. And I'm just I'm listening. I'm feeling
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: my head right like, what are you doing? What is
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: what's going on right now? I can't be having a
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: conversation with this man after two years of being in
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: l A, moving here for this is that reason, and
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: he's he's now talking to me about acting. It's it's
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: it's one of those things where you never forget the feeling,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: but it's like it's so hard to describe because uh
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: influx of emotions and you're just all of a sudden,
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: universe just opens up. I can't believe it is right.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: And so now the how did think or the opportunity
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: for the Oval come about? What did he call you directly?
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: For the The Oval series? He had a character and
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  Speaker 1: mindful you had the audition for other characters. So he
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: had the character in mind for me after he saw me.
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  Speaker 1: After he saw me, you know, we talked a little
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: bit um introductions and things like that and um, and
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: so that he started talking about the show that he
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  Speaker 1: saw him before. He said, I see you do comedy
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  Speaker 1: very well. I'm curious if you are a drama actor.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: And I said, I can't be. I cannot be whatever. Uh.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: He said, well, I'm coming out with this new show
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: right now, and you are you are perfect for this
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: character named Barry, uh, that I that I have on
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the show. Would you be interested? You know, I gotta
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: play it up. I got play it up. Uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tell me about a little bit ye some side.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to read to check out the line.
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  Speaker 1: Make sure you get my character, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I could be a gonna be interested into it,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: you know. Long let me hear about the character a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, tyler, let me hear about the character. Yeah,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, I would definitely be interested in auditioning for this.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: And we're just having a conversation man about the character
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: about the show, because he had been working on it
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: for about two years before he and they were actually
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: in the final stages of casting by the time he
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: got to me. Um so it happened very fast for me.
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  Speaker 1: Other people they've been you know, in line with it
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: for a while. Now the now the character many over
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the top man, he hothead. Uh you know, mant got
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  Speaker 1: a child, he got an extramarital or fair Uh what
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  Speaker 1: did you when you start seeing that the character descriptions,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: start reading the line this is just fun talk. You know,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: there's no you know, because the seriou just over the
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  Speaker 1: top and it's fun and it's just outrageous. But when
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  Speaker 1: did you When did you realize this is just a
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  Speaker 1: line between comedy and drama? Y you know, because of
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: your your character, because it was so over the top,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and and you kept making the mistakes and you kept
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: wanting people feel sorry for you. You kept one of
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: your second chances, and but you when you drove that
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: car through that drug store, I went, he had lost
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: his mind to do it up. Pops got shot right,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: you know? For me, it was it was a definitely,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: it was definitely a learning experience because, um I I
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: had an interesting time with trying to make all this
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: real because ever since the first episode with Barry, you know,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: he got accused of rape with the with the with
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  Speaker 1: the president's daughter daughter, was kidnapped by a cult leader. Um,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: he accidentally shot somebody, his girlfriend's cheating on him. And
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I'm just like, one thing after another another. I have
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  Speaker 1: to I'm trying to I'm trying to ground it, Tyler,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to ground it. And he's just like, you
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: just gotta go for it. Yes, go for it. Like
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: he said, lose your mind. You already trying to make
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: all this work makes sense, you know exactly. He said,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: you can't make sense of it. He literally said, you
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: can't make sense of it, just lose your mind. And
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: so after that point, at that point, I just became
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: a little monster. Man. I just didn't care. I love it,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: first of all. And there's no there's no character description
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: of Barry when I got the audition, there was no
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: character description of him besides Butler's son, right right. I
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: forgot the fact that the President's doughter did accuse your rape.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: That was the first that was the first thing that
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: went wrong in your life. And then it just it
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: just kept just roll it down here after that. Man.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: So it was it's something I couldn't make sense of
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: it when he once he told me that, then it
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: was just you know, you're on green light. You just
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: go a hunt in my spoble from that one. Before
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: we go, I want to talk about a couple of
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the projects that you have coming up, man, because I
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: want to I don't want to limit the fact that
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm a big fan of Oval and that's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: why I discovered you as a fan. I became a
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: fan through that that portal and then you're on the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: start and on the game. But Keen Richards in the
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: theaters right now. I read an article on uh you know,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: because it premiered on HBO Max, and then they said
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: people a hundred percent of the people who watched the
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: movie watched it all the way through, which is a
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: testament to a quality of the movie because usually people
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  Speaker 1: just pop off, you know, I'm saying, they said a
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: hundred If you whoever started watching that movie completed that movie,
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  Speaker 1: talk about that. And then we're gonna slide over to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the movie you're doing with on my ELPs and Mica
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Eli is coming out next year in two yes, sir, yes, sir.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: So you know, first of all, this was my first
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: uh big movie role Um, And it was an opportunity
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: to work with Will and there's there's several people in
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: that cast that I've always been fans of, and so
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: for me, it was just it was another surreal moment,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: you know, my first movie, to be able to watch
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Will Smith, to learn from him offset on set, and
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: just um being that environment and being a space that
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I want to, you know, um aspire to one day.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: It was it was just nothing but a blessing. And
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I was watching his work, and I was watching what
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: we were creating on the movie set, and I just
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: knew it was gonna be something that was special. I
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: knew it was gonna be something that was gonna touch
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: people's hearts, that was gonna be a family movie that
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: everybody that anybody can relate to. And and I'm honestly,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just blessed to be a part of it. It
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: was a learning experience for me. I was working on it,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: but I was I'm I'm a fan of it. You know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I'm not just like, yeah, I did it. I'm like, yo,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: we did something great. They did something, they created something awesome,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm just glad I could have been a part
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: of it. And then we're gonna shift gears and go
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: over to the starting opposite all my ELPs loan career,
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  Speaker 1: another brother with a long career, all the way back
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  Speaker 1: with him and Juice when he with Tupac. And then
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  Speaker 1: Michael Eally, you know, he did the movie from me
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  Speaker 1: with Think Like a Man, Think Like a Man too, Kevin.
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  Speaker 1: That was my project. I was executive producer. So that's
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  Speaker 1: what Michael Eally and I developed our relationship and the
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  Speaker 1: movie is entitled The movie is entitled The Devil. You know, yep, uh,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: it's It's funny because Michael Eally. I met him in
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  Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen when I first started acting, and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: I was doing background at the time, and I walked
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: up straight to him. He was doing background of we
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: were doing Bad. I was doing background of being being
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  Speaker 1: Mary Jane, and I walked you up to him. I
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  Speaker 1: introduced myself and I sound, I'm gonna be working with
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: you one day. And so, uh, four years later we're
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: on set together and the w you know, oh my apps,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's a beast. I learned so much
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: from watching watching him working with him. I'm the youngest
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: of four brothers in that movie. He's like the third
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: oldest and so playing younger brother to somebody that you've
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: been watching your whole life. Um, and being able to
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: go back and forth with them, like have conversation, have
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: this camaraderie. I again, man, just another moment that I
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: was blessed with that I, Um, I really appreciate. I'm
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: glad I was able to sneak up in that thing
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: and do my and do and and hold my own.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: You know, it's all learning experience for me. It's all
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: a growing experience for me, and I'm just glad that
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I'm able to do it at a level with some
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: people who I really admire. Well, you know, I've I've
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  Speaker 1: done over a thousand shows baugh and my staff. No,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I get excited for very few people. You wanted the
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  Speaker 1: Your star brother, you got, you got a long career.
• 27:47
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy that I was able to do it, and
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• 28:15
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• 28:19
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• 28:21
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• 28:40
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• 28:45
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  Speaker 1: it's it's because we've We've had some dramatic good moments
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: on the show, you know, so this is gonna be
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: one of the first time we're gonna be up. You
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: have fun, you know, and because your books, man, are
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: always motivating, but they're also so honest, man, because you're
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: so authentic and you and I won't use the word deep,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: but you're just telling the truth. And sometimes when you
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: tell the truth, it doesn't always have a smile on it.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: So why why, that's why, why is there so much
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: that high level of authenticity when you're telling stories, especially
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: the written word, you know what it is? I think
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I want people to experience freedom, and sometimes, you know,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: you gotta show off your scars for other people to
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: realize that healing is possible. So so I want to
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: be vulnerable so people can see, like, oh, those are
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: some of the wrong terms you made, so I don't
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: have to make them, you know, and then they can
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: make the right terms. And that's how we grow, and
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that's how we learn. Well, I know that I've learned.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I always tell people I wake up dumb. I tell
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: people I wake up dumb, so I can be willing
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: to accept information because you wake up thinking you know
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: it all then guess what. You ignore the the truth
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of ways because you you feel that I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: got that, you've heard that phrase, well I got that.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I got that. The people wave you off and that
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: can be a mistake a lot of times because a
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: lot of people can provide information and you've always, through
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: your music been an outlet for information. Uh, whether it's
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: on tour, whether it's in your lyrics, whether it is
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: as a mentor. Talk about that responsibility in the craze
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: because it takes you down emotionally a little bit, because
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: we've been there on our interviews how I can take
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: you down. But that's a responsibility you're not running from, right, No,
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I mean you know, I just know what it's like
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: to not have those mentors, to not have those voices
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: to help me when I'm navigating stuff. And so if
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: I can help people avoid those pitfalls, then then I
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: want to do it. And plus that's just part of
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: being a leader. That's that's part of you know, the
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: mantle that I wear. You know, Uh, everybody says, well,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I ain't no leader. You're leaders if you if you
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: ahead of somebody, if somebody's behind you, with somebody's following,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: you're leading whether you want to or not. So somebody's
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: always watching you, so you're always leading. So it's just
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: you know, for me, it's like, all right, well, let
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: me just take responsibility and uh and just try to
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: help people so that that they're seiling, my ceiling is
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: their floor, right. You know the interesting thing about it
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: when I look at the Craig because I'm a former entertainer,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: you know, left IBM pursue the careers to standard comedian.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: So I've been on stage in front the twenty thousand people,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I've been on stage in front the five thousand people,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: four thousand, three hundred people. There's a certain rush you
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: get when you get that. And now that he's a businessman,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: there's a certain rush he's getting for that. But it's
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: not like what I saw when I saw him in Houston.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Text that that artist that captivated my spirit and I
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: didn't even know who you were man, So fueling that
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: live performance energy that you get there and now being
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: a business person, how you're navigating both emotions look crazy
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: that you know what it is. And I just like winning.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: You know, everybody's addicted to winning and conquering something and
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: seeing something in front of you and you know, having
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: a vision, having a dream and being able to accomplish it.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: You know, I like accomplishing goals, and so when you're
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: connected with a person through music, you feel like you're
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: accomplishing the goal. And at the same time, when you
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: make a business decision or strategy and you see it work,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: you feel like you're accomplishing a goal. And so that
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: that's that's the part that's addictive and inspiring for me,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: you know, the front part about it when people come
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: on my show, because you know, I I do my research.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: You know that people sent me a little by over.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: I want to because I think that the word people
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: to use is your flowers, you know, showing you your
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: blessings and so so because a lot of times we
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: just grind because you're grinder. I know that for a fact.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Every time I talk to you, grinding, like to you
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: grinding with experience right now, Well protect the bag, you know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: and then next time I talk to you're gonna be
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: might be the third book we're talking about, but be
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: acting in a series, because that's show. That's show. M
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: oh And that's a positive. Folks. Don't don't get me wrong,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: because a lot of people say oh, he do too much.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the man long this guard allows
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you to be alive. You're supposed to do too much
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: because there's no time on when you might not be here.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I always tell people I'm over fifty. I say I'm
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: on the downside of dying, and I tell people that, Hey,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: but I ain't gonna live to it, you know, so
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I can't ain't got too many more years I can
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: put in me. But that's an honest talk, lok Craig, Okay,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that as a defeatist, but the
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: realization is, I'm gonna put my time in when I
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: talk a lot, Craiz, I'm gonna put my time in
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: talking to you. So you're younger at me. Why are
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: you putting so much time in the crank man? Because
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: the folks like you this the knowledge you're kicking And
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, well, shoot, that's perspective. Let me go.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: And then you know, I have been fortunate. You know,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: I bought a building um near downtown Atlanta, and the
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: gentleman who sold me the property, I was like, man,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: why are you selling me this property at this price?
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: You know, because it was a really good price for
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: what he was selling it to me. And he said
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: something very similar. He said, you know, man, I'm upwards
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: and seventy years old, and I'm not I've made my money.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I want to enjoy it. You know, I'm not gonna
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: be here for another ten years or twenty years to
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: see this property turnover and make double what I sold
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: it to you for. So it's no point in me
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: holding onto it. And he said, you got time, and
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: so maximize your time. You hold onto it, you develop it,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: and you got twenty years to see it come to
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: fruition to where you can take that money and go
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: enjoy it. And so I was like, man, that's inspired.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: It's a perspective I've never had. So, man, I gotta yeah,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: while I'm here, let's go well, you know, because you know,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I bought a building Atlanta, just like you, and I
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: just want to put people in perspect her about that,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: because you know the CRAI because you don't have to.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: I've leased at different places, I have places that we worked,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I had places in spaces and so multiple offices. But
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: when you tell people just like he just said that
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: casually I bought the building, man, people ain't ready for
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: that if you could. People know you can buy a house,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: they know you can buy a call, they know you
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: can buy airline ticket. But when you tell people you
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: bought the building the crate, they look at you a
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: little bit different, don't that. And that's a beautiful thing
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: because that's what as minorities, as people of color, we
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: gotta have that as part of our vernacular. So it
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: won't feel strange. It won't feel strange that, you know,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: we're invested in stock. It won't feel strange that we
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: have portfolio financial portfolios. And that leads us back to
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: why you really came on the show today protect the bag?
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: How did you come about it? You know experience, you
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: know get your credit scores, there's a financial education company.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: How did you get into the whole process with Experience? Yeah,
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: So the back story is that I was getting offered
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: a lot of um, you know, opportunities to be in films,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: and I didn't understand the film industry. So I said,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: let me back up. And when I learned a little bit,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: I said, let me start my own production company. And
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: once I had a production company, UM Experience had reached
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: out and said, hey, we like you to host something
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: for us. Can you do you know any creative production
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: companies that would be able to pull it off? And
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I said, I sure, do you know what? I have
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: one of mine? And you know, I was like, this
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: is this perfectly aligned because my production team and myself,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: you know, my partner and I have been really heavy
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: on trying to close this this this wealth gap. And
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: so obviously experience has some desires. They want to educate
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: people on credit, and then I have some desires. I
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: want to see, you know, the black community understand the
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: power of the dollar, the power of our dollar, and
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: um how to protected and how to you know, invest it.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: And so those things aligned and we work together to
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: create something that would continue teaching people about how to
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: invest and protected their money. Now and you know the
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: whole thing about invest in protecting. Like I said, you know,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I'm older than you. So I've I've spent money that
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I shouldn't have spent. But guess what I had it.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: You know, I've had an extra car I couldn't drive,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: but I had it. And so but one thing I
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: did have there ever, since I was eighteen, I understood
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: my credit. I've protected it. I held don't do it, man,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I I understood what a credit card meant for just
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: somewhere in my mind, my DNA and my process said
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: credit was important to me, and it's always sustained me
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: through my whole life. It's been my badge of my
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: badge of authenticity, my badger be would tell you my
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: credit scores over eight hundred and and then I don't
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: even blink. Now, you know, people go, oh, why you
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: got good? Yeah, I'm a twenty. I average a twenty
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: on the regular basis, and so that's that's something I
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: brag about. So when you're trying to do protect the bag,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: how do people get involved with the whole process besides
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: viewing it? Okay, because we see so many commercials now
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: about you know, how they can raise your score real quick,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: you know, but there's a process to that, and that's
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: what the serious is all about, correct, right, absolutely, Yeah,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's really beginning to take some steps, and
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: we're giving people casual steps to take, you know, telling
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: people to put their money to work for them, you know,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: treat your money like it's an employee. Um. Also telling
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: people to to not see credit as as consumption but
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: see it as capital. How can your credit UM, Like
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: if you have a credit card or whatnot, how is
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: that building something instead of just consuming you If you're
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: just consuming money, UM, it's not building your credit. If
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: you if you have credit with the intention of building
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: it so that you can do more things. That's a
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: different mindset to have. UM. Te people to pay their mortgage,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: you know, twice a month. Just split the mortgage payment
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: in half, and what that does is that drives the
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: interest down that you ended up having to pay. UM
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: and just simple principles that people can learn to help them.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Teaching people to pay a little bit more on certain bills, UM,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: and just helping them understand what it means to even
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: establish credit, because some folks don't even have credit. They think,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I don't want to touch it because I don't I
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: don't want no credit. I don't want no problems with it.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: But you have to establish it in order to have
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: good credit. Right now, But let's go back a little
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: bit before we because you in order to have a
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: conversation about being successful, then get going. There's a level
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: of respect because you know, you just can't just start
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: talking about having good credit or talking about people unless
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: you have a successful track. I mentioned some of those things,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: you know, three million copies and number on the artists
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: both from Gospel and be all board. But then to
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: be an employer that responsibility, you know, understanding HR, understanding
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the health plan, understanding all these little things. Top. Let's
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: walk through these steps because we mentioned three companies and
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about those three companies because that
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: has played a role, and you being the expert voice. Oh,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: protect the bag because people need to understand that, because
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: they will see you as an artist, and I think
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: that's disrespectful in a lot of ways because yes, your
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: famous name got you here, but it's your your entrepreneurial
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: and your business acuum. It has allowed us to listen
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: to you take this advice. Reach you reach your Reach Records,
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: talk about that. Yeah, so Reach Records is an independent label.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Um we are going on. Uh man, I've been doing
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: this since I was a kid, you know, coming out
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: of college. And so you know that's that's over fifteen
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: years of of running a successful label. Um. You know,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: by God's grace, we have always been profitable. And that's
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: just a beautiful thing. Um. One of the things that
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I would say is is, uh, I realized early on
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: that I was not gonna sit around and wait for uh,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: somebody to embrace what I was doing. I was just
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: gonna do it myself. If nobody believed in it, then
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: it's just let's just do it ourselves, you know. Um
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: So I remember creating products and and and albums and
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: people are like, well, it's a little too you know,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: street for the church, a little to church for the street.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: There's not really a lame for you. Fine, I create
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: my own land. And that's what we did because I
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: knew there were other people like me who you know,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: would have appreciated what I did. And so we've been
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: running the label and we made some decisions early on
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: that really protected us and helped us. And we're brown,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: you know, we were young when we started, and we've
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: just had to grow over the years. And now, like
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: you said, we got over ten artists and just learning
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: how to take care of them and learning how to
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: you know, teach them, and I'm just trying to continue
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: to pass that on. And then one thing I will
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: say is, yes, I've learned a lot. My acumen has risen,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: But one of the best things I've learned is to
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: staff my weaknesses. You can't be good at everything. And
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: so if you know you're not good at it, staff
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: that person and put them in a position to help
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: you achieve what you want to achieve. You know, you
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: didn't have a name on this, you said, a co
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: own of a major film studio. Yes, okay, keep the name.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: We can talk about that and we're gonna keep that
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: a mystery. And just say your co owner of a
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: major film studio. I mean you know, you know that
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I would go let that slide that. You know, I
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: got all these titles, but I get to that one
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: co own off a major film studio. Yeah, so that
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: I mean that, you know that was really just um,
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how to put it. Put that
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: one to you. You know, I guess for me, that
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: wasn't that wasn't not my agenda. Um, it was more
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: so knowing the right people and that it put me
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: in a unique position, um to be a part of
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: an investment deal. And m and I said, wait a minute,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: is this a reality? You know it is? It is
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: this film studio, which will remain name with I don't
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: want to put it out there, but um, you know
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: there was a film studio that has produced a lot
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: of big films, um films that we all know and
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: love and UH. And you know, I had a friend
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: who who said, Hey, I'm about to UH there's a
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: portion of ownership that is not available right now that's
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: now made available. And I don't want to take it
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: all on myself. I don't want to take all of
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: it on I was. I'm giving it to you as
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: an opportunity. And let me tell you something. I'm literally
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: the I'm literally the only African American UH owner within
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: that group. And so that in and of itself is
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: amazing to me. You know, congratulations. But I had to
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: teach you on that because I do. I knew that
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: was a lack of a title left for a reason,
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: but I had to pool as much information I can
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: get out of you. But I want to slide over
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: to the you know when you made that bold statement
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: to Experience that do you know a company that can
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: produce this for us? And that's what what's about to
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: slide right now. Three Strange Films. That's the production company,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: that's your production company. Tell me about that and how
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: did the production actually work to produce this series for
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Experience Call of Protective Back that's on YouTube. Yeah, so UM,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: three strand film. As I said before, UM, somebody, a
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: major UH director had come to me and said, I
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: want to make a movie about your life. And I
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: didn't know anything about what that. Man. I didn't understand
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: the points. I didn't understand the royalty system, I didn't
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: understand the contracts. And so I had to go meet
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: with a UM an attorney who was in the film industry,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: and it was like, man, this is a lot of
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: heavy lifting. I'm coming from the music industry and I
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: just don't want to be I know how artists get
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: taken advantage of, and I don't want to be taking
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: advantage of in the film industry. And so the more
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I studied, the more I realized that this might be
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: something we can do on our own. You know, no
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: one can tell our stories better than we can. And
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: so so UM one of my good buddies was a
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: director and he had been doing a lot of independent films,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: and I said, hey, man, why don't we partner up
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: and UM and create You know, we even known each
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: other since you know, our college days. Let's partner up
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: and create a production company. And so we started small.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: We started producing a few music videos, and then from
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: music videos, to some small documentaries and then that moved
• 50:39
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts and what is your role in
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