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Navigating Change: From Familiarity to Transformation with Kristen Crabtree · The Living Conversation

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  I'm
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  Anthony
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  Wright,
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  and
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  I'm
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  your
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  co
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  host
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  today
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  on
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  the
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  Living
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  Conversation
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  with
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  Adam
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  Deeds.
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  Thanks
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  for
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  having
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  me
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  here
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  with
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  our.
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  Guest,
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  Kristen
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  Crabtree,
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  who
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  is
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  a
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  divorce
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  coach
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  and
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  a
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  former
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  hypnotherapist
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  and
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  has
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  a
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  degree
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  in
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  international
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  business,
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  which
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  I'll
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  want
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  to
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  talk
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  with
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  you
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  about
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  after
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  we
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  get
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  done
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  talking
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  on
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  air
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  here.
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  But
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  one
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  of
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  the
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  things
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  that
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  I
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  saw
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  in
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  your
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  website
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  is
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  that
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  you
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  liken
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  the
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  process
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  that
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  you
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  do
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  with
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  your
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  clients
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  to
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  sort
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  of
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  like
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  an
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  archaeological
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  dig,
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  an
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  excavation.
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  Can
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  you
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  talk
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  more
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  about
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  that?
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  Yes.
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  Nobody
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  knows
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  your
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  truth
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  but
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  you.
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  And
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  I'm
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  saying
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  that
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  to
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  everybody
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  listening.
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  You
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  know,
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  the
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  idea
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  of
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  10
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  steps
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  to
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  this
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  or
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  seven
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  steps
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  to
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  that,
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  that'll
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  get
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  you
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  wherever
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  the
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  person
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  who
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  wrote
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  the
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  book
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  wants
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  you
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  to
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  go,
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  which
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  is
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  where
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  they
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  think
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  go.
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  But
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  if
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  you
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  don't
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  know
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  where
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  go,
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  it's
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  kind
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  of
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  like
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  the
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  Alice
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  in
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  Wonderland
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  thing,
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  right?
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  You
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  know,
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  and
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  actually,
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  I.
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  I
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  quote
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  that
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  in
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  my
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  book,
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  you
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  know,
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  which
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  way
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  do
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  I
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  go?
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  Well,
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  it
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  depends
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  where
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  go.
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  Well,
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  I
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  don't
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  really
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  care
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  where.
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  Well,
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  then
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  you'll
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  get
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  there
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  as
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  long
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  as
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  you
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  just
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  keep
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  walking.
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  So.
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  So
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  it's
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  to
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  me,
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  the
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  only
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  way
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  to
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  hear.
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  To
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  know
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  your
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  truth
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  or
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  know
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  back
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  it
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  up,
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  to,
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  like,
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  know
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  how
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  to
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  be
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  your
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  best
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  self,
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  which
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  is
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  what
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  a
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  lot
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  of
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  people
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  say,
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  is
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  to
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  hear
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  your
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  truth.
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  The
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  only
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  way
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  to
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  hear
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  your
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  truth
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  is
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  to
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  peel
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  away
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  all
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  those
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  layers
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  of
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  adaptation,
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  all
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  those
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  masks
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  that
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  we
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  wear,
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  all
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  those
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  colors
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  that
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  we
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  put.
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  Put
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  on,
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  like
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  the
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  chameleon,
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  to
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  blend
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  in
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  and
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  to
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  be
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  accepted
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  and
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  to
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  be
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  loved.
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  And
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  it's
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  really
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  hard
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  to
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  hear
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  that
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  because
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  of
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  monkey
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  mind.
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  And
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  so
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  for
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  me,
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  what
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  my
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  process
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  looked
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  like
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  was
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  an
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  excavation.
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  And
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  it
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  actually,
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  I
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  came
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  to
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  this
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  journey
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  from
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  a
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  book
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  I
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  wrote
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  in
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  1999.
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  So
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  after
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  I
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  started
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  having
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  my
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  awareness
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  that
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  I
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  didn't
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  know
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  who
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  I
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  was,
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  but
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  that
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  there
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  was
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  some
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  part
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  of
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  me
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  that
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  was
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  connected
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  to
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  source
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  or
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  the
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  one
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  or
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  whatever
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  you
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  want
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  to
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  call
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  it,
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  I
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  asked
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  myself,
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  hey,
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  what
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  am
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  I
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  supposed
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  to
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  be
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  doing?
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  And
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  myself
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  said,
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  go
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  find
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  the
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  book
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  you
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  wrote
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  in
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  1999.
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  Well,
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  fortunately,
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  I'm
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  a
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  digital
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  hoarder.
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  So
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  I
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  pulled
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  out
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  the
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  book
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  because
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  I
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  didn't.
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  I
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  barely
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  remembered
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  writing
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  it.
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  I
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  did
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  not
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  remember
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  what
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  it
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  was
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  about.
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  And
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  when
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  I
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  went
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  through
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  the
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  first
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  chapter,
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  I
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  realized.
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  So
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  it
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  was
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  eight
• 2:45
  exercises.
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  And
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  I
• 2:47
  decided
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  to
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  do
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  the
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  exercises
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  as
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  the
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  reader.
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  And
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  my
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  first
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  thought
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  was,
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  wow,
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  who
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  wrote
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  these?
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  They're
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  brilliant.
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  And
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  then
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  my
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  second
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  thought
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  was,
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  this
• 2:56
  is
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  Like
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  a
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  process
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  of
• 2:57
  excavation.
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  And
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  so
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  I
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  decided
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  to
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  go
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  through
• 3:01
  the
• 3:01
  whole
• 3:01
  book
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  as
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  the
• 3:03
  reader
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  and
• 3:04
  experience
• 3:04
  what
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  it
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  was.
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  I.
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  I've
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  completely
• 3:06
  rewritten
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  the
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  book,
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  but
• 3:08
  the
• 3:08
  structure
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  and
• 3:09
  the
• 3:09
  intent
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  are
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  the
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  same.
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  So
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  it's
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  based
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  on
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  breaking
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  the
• 3:15
  excavation
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  down
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  into
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  our
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  four
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  bodies.
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  Mental
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  body,
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  emotional
• 3:19
  body,
• 3:19
  physical
• 3:20
  body
• 3:20
  and
• 3:20
  energy
• 3:21
  body.
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  And
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  each
• 3:23
  body
• 3:24
  section
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  is
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  broken
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  into
• 3:26
  three
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  chapters.
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  The
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  first
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  chapter
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  is
• 3:28
  the
• 3:28
  archeologist.
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  And
• 3:29
  that
• 3:30
  gives
• 3:30
  you
• 3:30
  information
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  on
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  current
• 3:32
  science,
• 3:33
  current
• 3:33
  philosophy,
• 3:34
  current
• 3:34
  current
• 3:34
  metaphysics,
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  and
• 3:36
  so
• 3:36
  forth
• 3:36
  and
• 3:36
  so
• 3:36
  on,
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  which
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  you
• 3:38
  can
• 3:38
  then
• 3:38
  pick
• 3:39
  and
• 3:39
  choose
• 3:39
  from
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  to
• 3:40
  decide
• 3:40
  what
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  resonates
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  with
• 3:41
  you.
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  I'm
• 3:42
  not
• 3:42
  the
• 3:42
  expert
• 3:42
  saying
• 3:43
  you
• 3:43
  have
• 3:43
  to
• 3:44
  follow
• 3:44
  this
• 3:44
  method
• 3:45
  of,
• 3:45
  you
• 3:46
  know,
• 3:46
  methodology
• 3:46
  in
• 3:47
  order
• 3:47
  to
• 3:47
  get
• 3:48
  there.
• 3:48
  I
• 3:48
  present
• 3:49
  a
• 3:49
  whole
• 3:49
  bunch
• 3:49
  of
• 3:49
  different
• 3:49
  concepts.
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  And
• 3:51
  the
• 3:52
  second
• 3:52
  chapter
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  in
• 3:53
  each
• 3:53
  section
• 3:54
  is
• 3:55
  about
• 3:57
  hundred
• 3:58
  questions
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  that
• 4:00
  correspond
• 4:01
  to
• 4:01
  the
• 4:01
  different
• 4:02
  topics
• 4:02
  within
• 4:03
  the
• 4:03
  archaeologist
• 4:04
  chapter
• 4:05
  and
• 4:06
  20
• 4:07
  to
• 4:07
  40
• 4:07
  exercises.
• 4:09
  Again,
• 4:10
  you
• 4:10
  don't
• 4:10
  have
• 4:10
  to
• 4:10
  do
• 4:10
  everything
• 4:11
  the.
• 4:11
  There's
• 4:12
  so
• 4:12
  many
• 4:12
  there
• 4:12
  so
• 4:13
  that
• 4:13
  you
• 4:13
  can
• 4:13
  pick
• 4:13
  and
• 4:13
  choose
• 4:14
  what
• 4:14
  resonates
• 4:14
  with
• 4:14
  you.
• 4:15
  And
• 4:16
  then
• 4:16
  the
• 4:16
  third
• 4:16
  chapter
• 4:17
  in
• 4:17
  each
• 4:17
  section
• 4:18
  is
• 4:18
  called
• 4:18
  the
• 4:18
  Web.
• 4:19
  And
• 4:19
  this
• 4:19
  was
• 4:19
  in
• 4:20
  the
• 4:20
  original
• 4:20
  book.
• 4:21
  The
• 4:22
  Web
• 4:22
  is
• 4:22
  where
• 4:23
  it's
• 4:23
  a
• 4:23
  fictional
• 4:24
  story
• 4:24
  that
• 4:25
  follows
• 4:25
  somebody
• 4:26
  choosing,
• 4:27
  making
• 4:27
  one
• 4:28
  tiny
• 4:28
  little
• 4:28
  shift
• 4:29
  in
• 4:29
  a
• 4:29
  decision
• 4:30
  that
• 4:30
  then
• 4:31
  ripples
• 4:31
  not
• 4:31
  just
• 4:31
  out
• 4:32
  into
• 4:32
  their
• 4:32
  future
• 4:33
  life,
• 4:33
  but
• 4:33
  also
• 4:33
  into
• 4:34
  others
• 4:34
  lives
• 4:34
  into
• 4:35
  the
• 4:35
  world.
• 4:36
  And
• 4:37
  so
• 4:37
  this
• 4:38
  process
• 4:38
  is
• 4:39
  really
• 4:39
  about
• 4:39
  digging.
• 4:40
  So
• 4:40
  I
• 4:41
  use
• 4:41
  the
• 4:41
  metaphor
• 4:42
  of
• 4:42
  archeologist,
• 4:43
  artifact
• 4:43
  and
• 4:44
  architect.
• 4:44
  The
• 4:45
  fifth
• 4:45
  section
• 4:45
  of
• 4:46
  the
• 4:46
  book
• 4:46
  is
• 4:47
  integration,
• 4:48
  which
• 4:48
  is
• 4:48
  where
• 4:48
  you
• 4:49
  assume
• 4:49
  the
• 4:49
  role
• 4:49
  of
• 4:49
  the
• 4:50
  architect
• 4:51
  and
• 4:51
  you
• 4:51
  build
• 4:51
  the
• 4:52
  jig
• 4:52
  and
• 4:53
  you
• 4:54
  put
• 4:54
  all
• 4:54
  the
• 4:54
  pieces
• 4:55
  together
• 4:56
  that
• 4:56
  you
• 4:56
  discovered.
• 4:57
  The
• 4:57
  artifacts
• 4:58
  are
• 4:58
  what
• 4:58
  you
• 4:59
  discover
• 4:59
  in
• 5:00
  those
• 5:00
  chapters
• 5:01
  that
• 5:01
  have
• 5:01
  all
• 5:01
  the
• 5:01
  questions
• 5:02
  and
• 5:03
  exercises.
• 5:03
  And
• 5:04
  those
• 5:04
  artifacts
• 5:04
  are
• 5:05
  little
• 5:05
  pieces
• 5:05
  of
• 5:05
  you.
• 5:06
  So
• 5:07
  the
• 5:07
  first
• 5:07
  chapter
• 5:08
  gives
• 5:08
  you
• 5:09
  the
• 5:09
  knowledge
• 5:10
  to
• 5:10
  be
• 5:10
  able
• 5:11
  to
• 5:11
  recognize
• 5:12
  is
• 5:12
  this
• 5:12
  rubble
• 5:13
  or
• 5:13
  is
• 5:13
  this
• 5:13
  an
• 5:13
  artifact.
• 5:15
  The
• 5:15
  second
• 5:15
  chapter
• 5:16
  is
• 5:16
  what
• 5:16
  gives
• 5:17
  you
• 5:17
  the
• 5:17
  excavation
• 5:18
  tools
• 5:18
  and
• 5:19
  process.
• 5:20
  The
• 5:20
  third
• 5:21
  chapter
• 5:21
  is
• 5:21
  what
• 5:22
  shows
• 5:22
  you
• 5:22
  how
• 5:22
  a
• 5:23
  little
• 5:23
  teeny
• 5:23
  change
• 5:24
  can
• 5:24
  ripple
• 5:24
  out.
• 5:25
  And
• 5:25
  then
• 5:25
  the
• 5:26
  fa,
• 5:26
  the
• 5:26
  fifth
• 5:27
  section
• 5:27
  puts
• 5:27
  it
• 5:28
  all
• 5:28
  together
• 5:28
  in
• 5:29
  what
• 5:29
  I
• 5:29
  think
• 5:29
  is
• 5:30
  a
• 5:30
  pretty
• 5:30
  darn
• 5:31
  cool
• 5:31
  process
• 5:32
  and
• 5:32
  very
• 5:32
  different
• 5:33
  from
• 5:33
  what
• 5:34
  most
• 5:34
  people
• 5:34
  do
• 5:35
  and
• 5:35
  very
• 5:36
  aligned
• 5:36
  with
• 5:36
  what
• 5:37
  source
• 5:37
  told
• 5:37
  me
• 5:37
  to
• 5:38
  do.
• 5:38
  So
• 5:39
  there's
• 5:39
  a
• 5:39
  teaser.
• 5:42
  So
• 5:43
  this
• 5:43
  sounds
• 5:45
  a
• 5:45
  lot
• 5:46
  like
• 5:46
  what
• 5:46
  we
• 5:46
  know
• 5:47
  about
• 5:47
  in
• 5:48
  Chinese
• 5:48
  philosophy,
• 5:50
  that's
• 5:50
  called
• 5:50
  self
• 5:51
  cultivation.
• 5:53
  Are
• 5:53
  you.
• 5:53
  Do
• 5:53
  you
• 5:53
  find
• 5:53
  parallels
• 5:54
  like
• 5:54
  that,
• 5:54
  Adam
• 5:55
  and
• 5:55
  what
• 5:56
  Krishna
• 5:56
  is
• 5:56
  saying?
• 5:57
  Yeah,
• 5:57
  while.
• 5:57
  While
• 5:58
  you
• 5:58
  were
• 5:58
  mentioning
• 5:58
  that
• 5:59
  I
• 5:59
  think
• 5:59
  about
• 5:59
  my
• 6:00
  own
• 6:00
  process.
• 6:01
  It
• 6:01
  was
• 6:01
  like,
• 6:02
  okay,
• 6:02
  my
• 6:03
  senior
• 6:03
  quote
• 6:03
  was
• 6:03
  from
• 6:04
  the
• 6:04
  books
• 6:04
  At
• 6:04
  Hearta
• 6:05
  by
• 6:05
  Herman
• 6:05
  Hess,
• 6:05
  At
• 6:05
  Hearta
• 6:06
  by
• 6:06
  Herman
• 6:06
  Hess
• 6:06
  and
• 6:06
  about
• 6:07
  nothing
• 6:07
  on
• 6:07
  this
• 6:07
  earth.
• 6:07
  Do
• 6:08
  I
• 6:08
  know
• 6:08
  less
• 6:08
  than
• 6:08
  about
• 6:08
  myself?
• 6:11
  And
• 6:11
  so
• 6:11
  then
• 6:11
  you
• 6:11
  know,
• 6:12
  that
• 6:12
  started
• 6:12
  a
• 6:12
  little
• 6:12
  process.
• 6:13
  So
• 6:13
  my
• 6:14
  process
• 6:14
  was
• 6:14
  probably
• 6:14
  not
• 6:15
  archaeologists,
• 6:15
  but
• 6:16
  like
• 6:16
  maybe
• 6:17
  tree
• 6:18
  growing,
• 6:18
  sprouting,
• 6:19
  so
• 6:19
  a
• 6:19
  little
• 6:19
  seed
• 6:20
  was
• 6:20
  there
• 6:20
  and
• 6:20
  then
• 6:20
  it
• 6:20
  grew
• 6:21
  a
• 6:21
  little
• 6:21
  bit
• 6:21
  in
• 6:21
  college
• 6:22
  and
• 6:22
  masters
• 6:22
  and
• 6:23
  PhD
• 6:23
  and
• 6:23
  whatnot.
• 6:25
  And
• 6:26
  also,
• 6:26
  but
• 6:26
  it
• 6:26
  also
• 6:27
  reminds
• 6:27
  me
• 6:27
  of
• 6:27
  a
• 6:27
  meditation,
• 6:28
  meditation
• 6:29
  that
• 6:29
  we
• 6:29
  did
• 6:30
  in,
• 6:31
  in
• 6:31
  graduate
• 6:32
  school
• 6:32
  with,
• 6:32
  with
• 6:33
  the
• 6:33
  Terravada
• 6:34
  tradition
• 6:35
  where
• 6:35
  we're
• 6:36
  onion
• 6:37
  and
• 6:37
  while
• 6:37
  you're
• 6:38
  meditating,
• 6:38
  you're
• 6:38
  going
• 6:39
  deeper
• 6:39
  and
• 6:39
  deeper
• 6:39
  into
• 6:40
  the
• 6:40
  onion.
• 6:41
  And
• 6:41
  that
• 6:42
  also
• 6:42
  combines
• 6:42
  with
• 6:42
  another
• 6:43
  study
• 6:43
  that
• 6:43
  our
• 6:44
  mentor
• 6:44
  did,
• 6:44
  Dr.
• 6:44
  Yi
• 6:45
  Wu,
• 6:45
  about
• 6:46
  self.
• 6:47
  And
• 6:47
  that
• 6:47
  the
• 6:47
  self
• 6:47
  is
• 6:48
  a
• 6:48
  series
• 6:48
  of
• 6:48
  like
• 6:48
  concentric
• 6:49
  circles.
• 6:50
  So
• 6:50
  you
• 6:50
  have
• 6:50
  your
• 6:50
  physical
• 6:51
  self,
• 6:51
  you
• 6:51
  know,
• 6:51
  your
• 6:51
  desires,
• 6:52
  you
• 6:52
  have
• 6:52
  your
• 6:53
  psychological
• 6:54
  self,
• 6:54
  your
• 6:54
  spiritual
• 6:54
  self.
• 6:55
  And
• 6:55
  I
• 6:55
  forget
• 6:55
  what
• 6:55
  the
• 6:55
  others
• 6:56
  are.
• 6:56
  But
• 6:57
  can
• 6:57
  you
• 6:57
  say
• 6:57
  something
• 6:58
  about
• 6:58
  that?
• 6:59
  Maybe.
• 7:01
  So
• 7:01
  while
• 7:02
  two
• 7:02
  things,
• 7:02
  while
• 7:02
  you
• 7:03
  have
• 7:03
  the
• 7:03
  archaeology,
• 7:05
  maybe
• 7:05
  want
• 7:06
  to
• 7:06
  call
• 7:06
  it
• 7:06
  paradigm
• 7:07
  or,
• 7:07
  or
• 7:08
  model
• 7:08
  model.
• 7:10
  Is
• 7:10
  there
• 7:10
  something
• 7:11
  there
• 7:11
  with
• 7:11
  my
• 7:11
  tree
• 7:12
  model?
• 7:12
  That's
• 7:12
  one,
• 7:13
  is
• 7:13
  there
• 7:13
  other
• 7:13
  models?
• 7:14
  And
• 7:14
  then
• 7:14
  two.
• 7:15
  Can
• 7:15
  you
• 7:15
  say
• 7:15
  something
• 7:15
  about
• 7:15
  this,
• 7:16
  this
• 7:16
  concept
• 7:16
  of
• 7:16
  onion
• 7:17
  or
• 7:17
  layers
• 7:17
  of
• 7:18
  the
• 7:18
  self?
• 7:19
  Yeah,
• 7:19
  absolutely.
• 7:20
  So
• 7:20
  first
• 7:20
  of
• 7:20
  all,
• 7:20
  when
• 7:21
  you
• 7:21
  said
• 7:21
  the
• 7:21
  tree
• 7:22
  thing,
• 7:22
  it
• 7:23
  reminded
• 7:23
  me
• 7:23
  of
• 7:23
  two
• 7:24
  things.
• 7:24
  One
• 7:24
  is
• 7:24
  James
• 7:25
  Redfield
• 7:25
  and
• 7:26
  the
• 7:26
  acorn.
• 7:26
  Do
• 7:27
  you
• 7:27
  know
• 7:27
  about.
• 7:27
  Yeah,
• 7:28
  he,
• 7:28
  I
• 7:28
  can't
• 7:29
  remember
• 7:29
  the
• 7:29
  name
• 7:29
  of
• 7:29
  his
• 7:30
  book
• 7:30
  but
• 7:31
  he
• 7:31
  likens
• 7:33
  sort
• 7:33
  of
• 7:33
  the
• 7:34
  development
• 7:34
  of
• 7:35
  the
• 7:35
  self
• 7:35
  to
• 7:35
  the
• 7:36
  acorn
• 7:36
  that
• 7:36
  gets
• 7:37
  planted
• 7:37
  and
• 7:37
  you
• 7:37
  know,
• 7:38
  how
• 7:38
  it
• 7:38
  grows
• 7:38
  and
• 7:38
  so
• 7:39
  forth.
• 7:40
  And
• 7:40
  that,
• 7:40
  you
• 7:40
  know,
• 7:41
  coming
• 7:41
  back
• 7:41
  to
• 7:41
  yourself
• 7:42
  is
• 7:42
  coming
• 7:43
  down
• 7:43
  to
• 7:43
  that
• 7:43
  acorn
• 7:44
  kind
• 7:45
  of
• 7:45
  thing
• 7:45
  in
• 7:45
  terms
• 7:46
  of
• 7:46
  the
• 7:46
  peeling
• 7:47
  of
• 7:47
  the
• 7:47
  onion.
• 7:48
  So
• 7:48
  the
• 7:48
  first
• 7:49
  exercise
• 7:50
  in
• 7:51
  that
• 7:51
  book
• 7:51
  from
• 7:51
  1999
• 7:52
  is
• 7:53
  still
• 7:53
  my
• 7:54
  first
• 7:54
  exercise
• 7:54
  in
• 7:55
  this
• 7:55
  book.
• 7:55
  I
• 7:55
  call
• 7:55
  it
• 7:55
  Foreplay.
• 7:56
  And
• 7:57
  it's
• 7:57
  also
• 7:57
  something
• 7:58
  I
• 7:58
  turned
• 7:58
  into
• 7:59
  a
• 7:59
  four
• 8:00
  part
• 8:00
  video
• 8:01
  that
• 8:01
  is
• 8:01
  free
• 8:02
  on
• 8:02
  my
• 8:02
  website,
• 8:02
  Paramore
• 8:03
  Paradox.
• 8:04
  And
• 8:05
  I
• 8:05
  also
• 8:05
  have
• 8:06
  like
• 8:06
  a
• 8:06
  PDF
• 8:06
  of
• 8:07
  it.
• 8:07
  So
• 8:07
  it's
• 8:07
  a
• 8:07
  big
• 8:08
  deal
• 8:08
  to
• 8:08
  me.
• 8:08
  And
• 8:08
  it's
• 8:09
  not
• 8:09
  anything
• 8:09
  like
• 8:10
  mind
• 8:10
  blowing.
• 8:11
  And
• 8:11
  I
• 8:11
  probably
• 8:12
  got
• 8:12
  it
• 8:12
  from
• 8:12
  somewhere
• 8:13
  else
• 8:13
  back
• 8:13
  in
• 8:13
  1999.
• 8:14
  I
• 8:14
  have
• 8:14
  no
• 8:14
  idea.
• 8:15
  There's
• 8:15
  no
• 8:15
  original
• 8:15
  ideas
• 8:16
  on
• 8:16
  this
• 8:16
  planet,
• 8:17
  so
• 8:17
  I
• 8:17
  probably
• 8:17
  got
• 8:17
  it
• 8:17
  somewhere
• 8:18
  else.
• 8:18
  But
• 8:19
  it's
• 8:19
  called
• 8:20
  who
• 8:20
  Am
• 8:20
  I?
• 8:20
  And
• 8:21
  it
• 8:21
  is
• 8:21
  about
• 8:21
  peeling
• 8:22
  that
• 8:22
  onion.
• 8:23
  So
• 8:23
  there's
• 8:23
  four
• 8:23
  different
• 8:23
  ways
• 8:24
  of
• 8:24
  doing
• 8:24
  it,
• 8:24
  which
• 8:25
  is
• 8:25
  why
• 8:25
  there's
• 8:26
  four
• 8:26
  different
• 8:27
  videos
• 8:27
  and
• 8:28
  four
• 8:28
  different
• 8:28
  exercises
• 8:29
  and
• 8:29
  I
• 8:29
  have
• 8:30
  no
• 8:30
  idea
• 8:30
  where
• 8:30
  we're
• 8:31
  at
• 8:31
  on
• 8:31
  time.
• 8:31
  So
• 8:31
  I
• 8:32
  can
• 8:32
  describe
• 8:32
  that
• 8:32
  or
• 8:33
  I
• 8:33
  can
• 8:33
  just
• 8:33
  mention
• 8:34
  that
• 8:34
  yes,
• 8:35
  it's
• 8:35
  about
• 8:35
  peeling
• 8:36
  the
• 8:36
  onion
• 8:37
  and
• 8:37
  it's
• 8:37
  a
• 8:37
  process,
• 8:38
  really
• 8:39
  easy
• 8:39
  and
• 8:40
  interesting
• 8:40
  process
• 8:40
  to
• 8:41
  do
• 8:41
  that.
• 8:41
  Well,
• 8:41
  we've
• 8:42
  got
• 8:42
  about
• 8:43
  at
• 8:43
  least
• 8:44
  like
• 8:44
  three
• 8:44
  Three,
• 8:45
  four
• 8:45
  minutes
• 8:45
  now
• 8:46
  before
• 8:46
  the
• 8:46
  next
• 8:46
  break.
• 8:48
  So
• 8:48
  on
• 8:48
  that
• 8:48
  note,
• 8:48
  could
• 8:48
  I
• 8:49
  ask,
• 8:49
  is
• 8:49
  it
• 8:49
  a.
• 8:50
  Because
• 8:50
  for.
• 8:50
  In
• 8:51
  my
• 8:51
  experience,
• 8:51
  it
• 8:51
  was
• 8:52
  a
• 8:53
  experience
• 8:53
  of
• 8:53
  going
• 8:54
  deeper
• 8:54
  into
• 8:54
  yourself,
• 8:55
  and
• 8:55
  then
• 8:56
  the
• 8:56
  smallest
• 8:57
  of
• 8:57
  the
• 8:57
  onion
• 8:57
  was
• 8:57
  like,
• 8:58
  oh,
• 8:58
  you
• 8:58
  know,
• 8:58
  maybe.
• 8:59
  Maybe
• 8:59
  we
• 9:00
  would
• 9:00
  say
• 9:00
  in
• 9:00
  the
• 9:00
  philosophy,
• 9:01
  true
• 9:01
  self.
• 9:01
  Yep,
• 9:02
  yep,
• 9:02
  yep.
• 9:03
  Absolutely.
• 9:03
  Okay.
• 9:04
  So
• 9:05
  the
• 9:06
  first
• 9:06
  version
• 9:06
  of
• 9:06
  the
• 9:07
  exercise
• 9:07
  is
• 9:08
  partnered,
• 9:08
  and
• 9:08
  you
• 9:09
  would
• 9:09
  want
• 9:09
  to
• 9:09
  pick
• 9:09
  a
• 9:09
  partner
• 9:10
  that
• 9:10
  you
• 9:10
  really,
• 9:10
  really
• 9:11
  trust
• 9:12
  safe
• 9:12
  with.
• 9:13
  And
• 9:13
  you
• 9:14
  look
• 9:14
  into
• 9:14
  the
• 9:14
  partner's
• 9:15
  eyes.
• 9:15
  The
• 9:15
  partner
• 9:16
  acts
• 9:16
  as
• 9:16
  your
• 9:17
  ego
• 9:17
  voice
• 9:17
  and
• 9:18
  says,
• 9:18
  who
• 9:18
  am
• 9:18
  I?
• 9:18
  They're
• 9:19
  only
• 9:19
  allowed
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  say
• 9:20
  that.
• 9:20
  They're
• 9:21
  not
• 9:21
  asking
• 9:21
  you
• 9:21
  to
• 9:22
  tell
• 9:22
  them
• 9:22
  who
• 9:22
  they
• 9:22
  are.
• 9:24
  They're
• 9:24
  there
• 9:25
  so
• 9:25
  that
• 9:25
  when
• 9:26
  you
• 9:26
  get
• 9:26
  stuck,
• 9:27
  which
• 9:27
  you'll
• 9:27
  get
• 9:27
  stuck
• 9:28
  after
• 9:28
  about
• 9:28
  7
• 9:29
  answers,
• 9:31
  they
• 9:31
  can
• 9:31
  say,
• 9:31
  who
• 9:32
  am
• 9:32
  I?
• 9:32
  And
• 9:32
  they
• 9:32
  can't
• 9:33
  do
• 9:33
  anything
• 9:33
  else.
• 9:33
  They
• 9:34
  can't
• 9:34
  nod,
• 9:34
  smile,
• 9:35
  shake
• 9:35
  their
• 9:35
  head,
• 9:35
  anything.
• 9:36
  Just,
• 9:36
  who
• 9:36
  am
• 9:36
  I?
• 9:37
  They're
• 9:37
  just
• 9:37
  your
• 9:37
  personal
• 9:38
  prod.
• 9:39
  You
• 9:40
  do
• 9:40
  that
• 9:40
  for
• 9:40
  three
• 9:40
  minutes,
• 9:40
  you
• 9:41
  set
• 9:41
  a
• 9:41
  timer.
• 9:42
  The
• 9:43
  second
• 9:43
  version,
• 9:44
  if
• 9:44
  you
• 9:44
  either
• 9:45
  don't
• 9:45
  want
• 9:45
  to
• 9:45
  do
• 9:45
  that
• 9:45
  one
• 9:46
  or
• 9:46
  want
• 9:46
  to
• 9:46
  keep
• 9:46
  going,
• 9:47
  is
• 9:47
  a
• 9:47
  journaling
• 9:48
  version
• 9:48
  where
• 9:49
  you
• 9:50
  write
• 9:50
  1
• 9:50
  to
• 9:51
  30
• 9:51
  on
• 9:51
  a
• 9:51
  piece
• 9:52
  of
• 9:52
  paper,
• 9:52
  and
• 9:52
  you
• 9:52
  fill
• 9:53
  in
• 9:53
  30
• 9:54
  answers
• 9:55
  to
• 9:55
  who
• 9:55
  am
• 9:55
  I?
• 9:56
  The
• 9:56
  third
• 9:57
  version
• 9:57
  is
• 9:57
  a
• 9:58
  mirrored
• 9:58
  version
• 9:59
  where
• 9:59
  you
• 9:59
  act
• 10:00
  as
• 10:00
  both,
• 10:00
  you
• 10:01
  know,
• 10:01
  the
• 10:01
  ego
• 10:01
  voice
• 10:02
  and
• 10:02
  yourself.
• 10:03
  And
• 10:03
  then
• 10:04
  the
• 10:04
  fourth
• 10:04
  version
• 10:04
  is
• 10:05
  what
• 10:05
  I
• 10:05
  call
• 10:05
  the
• 10:05
  quickie,
• 10:06
  where
• 10:06
  you
• 10:06
  set
• 10:06
  a
• 10:07
  Timer
• 10:07
  for
• 10:07
  about
• 10:08
  45
• 10:08
  seconds,
• 10:09
  and
• 10:09
  you
• 10:09
  just
• 10:09
  rattle
• 10:09
  off
• 10:09
  as
• 10:10
  many
• 10:10
  as
• 10:10
  you
• 10:10
  can.
• 10:11
  So
• 10:11
  that
• 10:12
  process,
• 10:12
  the
• 10:13
  first
• 10:13
  time
• 10:13
  somebody
• 10:14
  does
• 10:14
  it
• 10:14
  usually
• 10:15
  doesn't
• 10:16
  help
• 10:16
  them
• 10:17
  know
• 10:17
  who
• 10:17
  they
• 10:17
  are.
• 10:18
  It
• 10:18
  helps
• 10:18
  them
• 10:18
  realize
• 10:19
  they
• 10:19
  don't
• 10:19
  know
• 10:20
  who
• 10:20
  they
• 10:20
  are.
• 10:21
  Right.
• 10:22
  And
• 10:22
  you
• 10:22
  can
• 10:23
  do
• 10:23
  this,
• 10:23
  you
• 10:24
  know,
• 10:24
  over
• 10:24
  and
• 10:24
  over
• 10:24
  and
• 10:25
  over.
• 10:25
  Even
• 10:25
  when
• 10:25
  I
• 10:25
  do
• 10:26
  it,
• 10:26
  you
• 10:26
  know,
• 10:26
  now,
• 10:27
  like,
• 10:27
  my
• 10:28
  answers
• 10:28
  kind
• 10:29
  of
• 10:29
  evolve
• 10:29
  and
• 10:29
  change
• 10:30
  and
• 10:30
  shift
• 10:30
  and
• 10:31
  I
• 10:31
  get
• 10:31
  a
• 10:31
  little
• 10:31
  deeper
• 10:31
  and
• 10:32
  a
• 10:32
  little,
• 10:32
  you
• 10:32
  know,
• 10:32
  I.
• 10:33
  I
• 10:33
  now
• 10:34
  hear
• 10:34
  my
• 10:34
  true
• 10:34
  self
• 10:35
  pretty
• 10:35
  darn
• 10:35
  well.
• 10:36
  But
• 10:36
  you
• 10:36
  can
• 10:36
  always
• 10:37
  know
• 10:37
  it
• 10:37
  better,
• 10:37
  right?
• 10:38
  Because
• 10:38
  I'm
• 10:39
  not
• 10:39
  source.
• 10:39
  Well,
• 10:40
  I
• 10:40
  am.
• 10:40
  I
• 10:40
  am
• 10:40
  source.
• 10:41
  We're
• 10:41
  all
• 10:41
  source,
• 10:42
  but
• 10:42
  we're
• 10:42
  also
• 10:43
  separated
• 10:43
  from
• 10:43
  source.
• 10:44
  And
• 10:44
  so
• 10:44
  that
• 10:45
  dig,
• 10:46
  again,
• 10:46
  there's
• 10:46
  that
• 10:47
  term
• 10:47
  that
• 10:48
  dig
• 10:48
  will
• 10:49
  always
• 10:49
  reveal
• 10:50
  new
• 10:50
  artifacts.
• 10:51
  Well,
• 10:52
  I
• 10:52
  find.
• 10:52
  I
• 10:52
  found
• 10:53
  that
• 10:53
  also
• 10:54
  at
• 10:54
  one
• 10:54
  point,
• 10:55
  it
• 10:55
  was
• 10:55
  like,
• 10:56
  okay,
• 10:56
  I
• 10:56
  knew.
• 10:56
  I
• 10:56
  knew
• 10:57
  the
• 10:58
  deepest
• 10:58
  layers
• 10:58
  of
• 10:58
  the
• 10:59
  onion.
• 10:59
  I
• 10:59
  had
• 10:59
  more
• 11:00
  to
• 11:00
  learn
• 11:00
  about
• 11:00
  the
• 11:00
  outer
• 11:00
  layers.
• 11:01
  Like,
• 11:01
  I
• 11:02
  had
• 11:02
  so
• 11:02
  much
• 11:02
  that
• 11:02
  I
• 11:03
  just
• 11:03
  didn't
• 11:04
  think
• 11:04
  about
• 11:04
  my
• 11:04
  psychology
• 11:05
  and
• 11:05
  how
• 11:05
  that
• 11:05
  was
• 11:06
  affecting
• 11:06
  my
• 11:06
  relationships
• 11:06
  and
• 11:07
  how
• 11:07
  my
• 11:07
  childhood
• 11:07
  was
• 11:08
  affecting.
• 11:08
  I
• 11:08
  kind
• 11:08
  of
• 11:08
  poo
• 11:08
  pooed
• 11:09
  that
• 11:09
  for
• 11:09
  a
• 11:09
  while.
• 11:09
  That's
• 11:09
  psychology.
• 11:10
  I'm
• 11:10
  doing
• 11:10
  philosophy.
• 11:11
  I
• 11:11
  don't
• 11:11
  need
• 11:11
  that.
• 11:12
  And
• 11:12
  it's
• 11:12
  like,
• 11:12
  whoa,
• 11:13
  it
• 11:13
  comes
• 11:13
  back
• 11:14
  interesting.
• 11:15
  Yeah.
• 11:16
  Yeah.
• 11:18
  So,
• 11:19
  well,
• 11:21
  one
• 11:21
  of
• 11:21
  the
• 11:21
  things
• 11:21
  that
• 11:22
  I
• 11:23
  wrote
• 11:23
  down
• 11:23
  in
• 11:24
  my
• 11:24
  questions,
• 11:26
  and
• 11:26
  we've
• 11:26
  got
• 11:27
  just
• 11:27
  about
• 11:28
  two
• 11:28
  minutes
• 11:29
  before
• 11:29
  the
• 11:29
  break.
• 11:32
  How
• 11:32
  does
• 11:33
  adapting
• 11:35
  cover
• 11:35
  up
• 11:35
  your
• 11:36
  true
• 11:36
  self?
• 11:37
  Yeah,
• 11:39
  so
• 11:40
  when
• 11:41
  we
• 11:42
  adapt,
• 11:45
  because
• 11:45
  we're
• 11:46
  adapting,
• 11:46
  and
• 11:47
  that
• 11:47
  is
• 11:47
  what
• 11:47
  is
• 11:48
  comfortable
• 11:48
  and
• 11:49
  familiar.
• 11:50
  That
• 11:50
  is
• 11:50
  who
• 11:50
  we
• 11:51
  think
• 11:51
  we
• 11:51
  are.
• 11:53
  And
• 11:53
  it's.
• 11:53
  It's.
• 11:54
  You
• 11:54
  know,
• 11:54
  I'm
• 11:55
  kind
• 11:55
  of
• 11:55
  jumping
• 11:56
  over
• 11:56
  to
• 11:57
  a
• 11:57
  different
• 11:57
  version
• 11:58
  of
• 11:58
  the
• 11:59
  question
• 11:59
  or
• 11:59
  the
• 11:59
  answer,
• 12:00
  and
• 12:00
  that
• 12:00
  is
• 12:00
  around
• 12:01
  because
• 12:01
  I
• 12:01
  think
• 12:01
  it's
• 12:01
  really,
• 12:02
  really
• 12:02
  important.
• 12:03
  There's
• 12:04
  something
• 12:04
  I
• 12:04
  called
• 12:04
  emotional
• 12:05
  sobriety.
• 12:06
  And
• 12:06
  I
• 12:06
  was
• 12:06
  actually
• 12:06
  listening
• 12:07
  to
• 12:08
  one
• 12:08
  of
• 12:08
  your
• 12:08
  podcasts
• 12:09
  from.
• 12:10
  I
• 12:10
  don't
• 12:11
  think
• 12:11
  it
• 12:11
  was
• 12:11
  the
• 12:11
  last
• 12:11
  one,
• 12:11
  but
• 12:11
  the
• 12:12
  one
• 12:12
  before
• 12:12
  that.
• 12:12
  And
• 12:12
  he
• 12:13
  talked
• 12:13
  about
• 12:15
  not
• 12:15
  emotional
• 12:16
  sobriety,
• 12:17
  but,
• 12:19
  you
• 12:19
  know,
• 12:19
  he
• 12:19
  was
• 12:19
  talking
• 12:20
  about
• 12:20
  the.
• 12:20
  The
• 12:21
  will
• 12:22
  or
• 12:22
  something
• 12:23
  like
• 12:23
  that,
• 12:23
  and
• 12:23
  about
• 12:23
  how
• 12:24
  becoming.
• 12:24
  Anyways,
• 12:25
  Dean
• 12:25
  Graves.
• 12:26
  Yeah.
• 12:26
  Yeah.
• 12:27
  So
• 12:27
  to.
• 12:28
  To
• 12:28
  me,
• 12:28
  we
• 12:29
  have
• 12:29
  to
• 12:29
  become
• 12:29
  emotionally
• 12:30
  sober.
• 12:30
  And
• 12:31
  that
• 12:31
  is
• 12:31
  because
• 12:34
  the.
• 12:35
  The
• 12:35
  chemicals
• 12:36
  that
• 12:36
  are
• 12:36
  released,
• 12:37
  so
• 12:37
  we
• 12:37
  have
• 12:37
  a
• 12:38
  thought
• 12:38
  that
• 12:38
  creates
• 12:39
  an
• 12:39
  emotion,
• 12:39
  the
• 12:39
  emotion
• 12:40
  creates
• 12:40
  a
• 12:40
  feeling,
• 12:41
  which
• 12:41
  create.
• 12:41
  Releases
• 12:42
  chemicals,
• 12:43
  so
• 12:43
  that
• 12:44
  those
• 12:44
  chemicals.
• 12:45
  So
• 12:45
  if
• 12:45
  you
• 12:45
  live
• 12:46
  in
• 12:46
  a
• 12:46
  world
• 12:47
  of
• 12:47
  stress,
• 12:48
  and
• 12:49
  this
• 12:49
  is
• 12:49
  just
• 12:49
  an
• 12:49
  example,
• 12:50
  and
• 12:50
  you're
• 12:51
  releasing
• 12:51
  cortisol
• 12:52
  and
• 12:52
  adrenaline
• 12:52
  all
• 12:52
  the
• 12:53
  time,
• 12:54
  your
• 12:54
  body
• 12:54
  becomes
• 12:55
  literally
• 12:55
  addicted
• 12:56
  to
• 12:56
  it.
• 12:56
  And
• 12:57
  it's
• 12:57
  not
• 12:57
  sometimes.
• 12:58
  It's
• 12:58
  always.
• 12:58
  I
• 12:58
  mean,
• 12:58
  it's.
• 12:59
  It's
• 12:59
  a
• 12:59
  chemical
• 12:59
  reaction.
• 13:01
  You
• 13:01
  get
• 13:01
  used
• 13:01
  to
• 13:01
  that.
• 13:02
  You
• 13:02
  get
• 13:02
  addicted
• 13:03
  to
• 13:03
  it.
• 13:04
  So
• 13:04
  you
• 13:04
  get
• 13:04
  out
• 13:05
  of
• 13:05
  the
• 13:05
  environment
• 13:06
  that
• 13:06
  you're
• 13:06
  in.
• 13:07
  You
• 13:07
  leave
• 13:07
  your
• 13:07
  psychologically
• 13:08
  abusive
• 13:09
  marriage,
• 13:09
  for
• 13:09
  example,
• 13:10
  and
• 13:11
  you
• 13:11
  still
• 13:12
  need
• 13:12
  your
• 13:12
  fix,
• 13:13
  right?
• 13:14
  So
• 13:14
  you
• 13:14
  spin
• 13:15
  in
• 13:15
  your
• 13:15
  head,
• 13:15
  monkey,
• 13:16
  monkey
• 13:16
  brain
• 13:17
  takes
• 13:17
  over
• 13:17
  and
• 13:18
  reminds
• 13:18
  you
• 13:18
  of
• 13:19
  all
• 13:19
  those
• 13:19
  horrible
• 13:19
  things
• 13:20
  that
• 13:20
  were
• 13:20
  said
• 13:20
  to
• 13:20
  you
• 13:21
  and
• 13:21
  all
• 13:21
  that
• 13:21
  control
• 13:21
  and
• 13:22
  all
• 13:22
  that
• 13:22
  manipulation,
• 13:23
  and
• 13:23
  you
• 13:23
  have
• 13:23
  all
• 13:24
  that
• 13:24
  anxiety
• 13:25
  and
• 13:25
  anger
• 13:26
  and
• 13:26
  frustration
• 13:27
  and
• 13:27
  guilt
• 13:27
  and
• 13:28
  shame,
• 13:28
  and
• 13:29
  that
• 13:29
  gives
• 13:29
  you
• 13:30
  your
• 13:30
  dose
• 13:30
  of
• 13:30
  cortisol
• 13:31
  and
• 13:31
  adrenaline.
• 13:33
  So
• 13:33
  until
• 13:33
  you
• 13:34
  become
• 13:34
  aware
• 13:35
  of
• 13:35
  that
• 13:36
  and
• 13:37
  can
• 13:38
  break
• 13:39
  that,
• 13:40
  you
• 13:40
  continue
• 13:41
  to
• 13:41
  feed
• 13:42
  it.
• 13:42
  So
• 13:43
  you.
• 13:44
  Your
• 13:44
  question
• 13:45
  was
• 13:45
  about
• 13:47
  this,
• 13:47
  tied
• 13:47
  in.
• 13:48
  With
• 13:48
  it,
• 13:48
  the
• 13:48
  adaptation,
• 13:49
  how
• 13:50
  it.
• 13:50
  Yeah,
• 13:50
  yeah.
• 13:51
  So
• 13:51
  even
• 13:51
  though
• 13:52
  it's
• 13:52
  not
• 13:53
  good,
• 13:55
  it
• 13:55
  is
• 13:56
  familiar.
• 13:57
  And
• 13:57
  familiar
• 13:59
  is
• 13:59
  what
• 13:59
  we
• 14:00
  want,
• 14:01
  because
• 14:01
  that's
• 14:02
  safe.
• 14:02
  Okay,
• 14:03
  we
• 14:04
  know
• 14:04
  what
• 14:05
  is,
• 14:05
  you
• 14:05
  know,
• 14:05
  familiar.
• 14:06
  Like,
• 14:06
  you
• 14:07
  know,
• 14:08
  do
• 14:09
  I
• 14:09
  want
• 14:09
  this.
• 14:10
  This
• 14:10
  evil
• 14:11
  that
• 14:11
  I
• 14:11
  know,
• 14:11
  or
• 14:12
  do
• 14:12
  I
• 14:12
  want
• 14:12
  the
• 14:12
  unknown,
• 14:13
  which,
• 14:14
  you
• 14:14
  know,
• 14:14
  I
• 14:15
  don't
• 14:15
  know
• 14:15
  what
• 14:15
  that
• 14:15
  is.
• 14:15
  And
• 14:16
  so
• 14:16
  it's
• 14:17
  kind
• 14:17
  of
• 14:17
  the
• 14:17
  same
• 14:17
  thing.
• 14:18
  So
• 14:18
  we
• 14:18
  have
• 14:18
  to
• 14:19
  become
• 14:19
  emotionally
• 14:20
  sober
• 14:21
  in
• 14:21
  order
• 14:21
  to
• 14:22
  break
• 14:22
  that
• 14:23
  pattern
• 14:23
  and
• 14:23
  be
• 14:24
  truly
• 14:24
  free.
• 14:25
  Yeah.
• 14:25
  Well,
• 14:26
  we
• 14:26
  have
• 14:26
  to
• 14:27
  take
• 14:27
  a
• 14:27
  break
• 14:27
  from
• 14:28
  this
• 14:28
  particular
• 14:28
  pattern
• 14:29
  for
• 14:29
  a
• 14:29
  moment.
• 14:30
  I'm
• 14:30
  Anthony
• 14:30
  Wright,
• 14:31
  and
• 14:31
  I'm
• 14:31
  your
• 14:31
  co
• 14:31
  host
• 14:31
  today
• 14:32
  on
• 14:32
  the
• 14:33
  Living
• 14:33
  Conversation
• 14:33
  with
• 14:34
  Adam
• 14:35
  Deeds.
• 14:35
  Thanks
• 14:35
  for
• 14:35
  joining.
• 14:36
  We
• 14:36
  are
• 14:37
  with
• 14:38
  our
• 14:38
  guest,
• 14:40
  Kristen
• 14:40
  Crabtree.
• 14:41
  And
• 14:41
  how
• 14:41
  can
• 14:41
  people
• 14:41
  contact
• 14:42
  you?
• 14:43
  I
• 14:43
  like
• 14:43
  having
• 14:43
  conversations.
• 14:44
  So
• 14:45
  you
• 14:45
  can
• 14:45
  go
• 14:45
  to
• 14:46
  u
• 14:47
  2.0
• 14:48
  y
• 14:48
  o
• 14:48
  u
• 14:49
  the
• 14:49
  number
• 14:49
  two,
• 14:50
  the
• 14:50
  word
• 14:50
  point
• 14:50
  the
• 14:51
  number
• 14:51
  zero
• 14:51
  dot
• 14:52
  com
• 14:52
  and
• 14:53
  have
• 14:53
  a
• 14:53
  free
• 14:54
  chat
• 14:54
  with
• 14:54
  me.
• 14:54
  Just
• 14:55
  kind
• 14:55
  of
• 14:55
  like
• 14:55
  this.
• 14:56
  Great.
• 14:56
  All
• 14:57
  right.
• 14:57
  We're
• 14:57
  going
• 14:57
  to
• 14:57
  take
• 14:57
  a
• 14:58
  short
• 14:58
  break
• 14:58
  and
• 14:58
  be
• 14:58
  right
• 14:58
  back.
• 14:59
  So
• 14:59
  stay
• 14:59
  tuned.
• 15:01
  Okay.
• 15:01
  I'm
• 15:01
  Anthony
• 15:01
  Wright
• 15:02
  and
• 15:02
  I'm
• 15:02
  your
• 15:02
  co
• 15:02
  host
• 15:03
  today
• 15:03
  on
• 15:03
  the
• 15:03
  Living
• 15:03
  Conversation
• 15:04
  with
• 15:05
  Adam
• 15:05
  De.
• 15:06
  And
• 15:06
  we're
• 15:06
  here
• 15:06
  with
• 15:07
  our
• 15:07
  guest,
• 15:08
  Kristen
• 15:09
  Crabtree.
• 15:10
  And
• 15:11
  you
• 15:11
  were
• 15:11
  talking
• 15:11
  about
• 15:12
  before
• 15:13
  the
• 15:13
  break
• 15:15
  the
• 15:16
  familiarity
• 15:17
  of
• 15:17
  the
• 15:17
  patterns
• 15:18
  of
• 15:19
  abuse
• 15:21
  and
• 15:22
  that
• 15:23
  it
• 15:23
  might
• 15:23
  be
• 15:24
  more
• 15:24
  comfortable
• 15:25
  because
• 15:25
  it's
• 15:26
  more
• 15:26
  familiar
• 15:26
  and
• 15:27
  habituated
• 15:28
  to
• 15:28
  stay
• 15:28
  in
• 15:29
  those
• 15:29
  patterns
• 15:29
  rather
• 15:30
  than
• 15:31
  to
• 15:31
  take
• 15:31
  the
• 15:31
  risk
• 15:32
  to
• 15:32
  venture
• 15:32
  into
• 15:33
  something
• 15:33
  else.
• 15:34
  How
• 15:35
  do
• 15:35
  you
• 15:35
  assist
• 15:35
  people
• 15:36
  into
• 15:36
  taking
• 15:37
  that
• 15:37
  risk?
• 15:39
  Okay,
• 15:40
  so
• 15:40
  one
• 15:41
  thing
• 15:41
  to
• 15:41
  know
• 15:42
  about
• 15:42
  change
• 15:43
  is
• 15:44
  you
• 15:44
  can't
• 15:44
  wait
• 15:45
  for
• 15:45
  it
• 15:45
  to
• 15:45
  feel
• 15:45
  comfortable
• 15:46
  in
• 15:46
  order
• 15:46
  to
• 15:47
  do
• 15:47
  it.
• 15:48
  So,
• 15:48
  like
• 15:48
  when
• 15:49
  I
• 15:49
  left
• 15:49
  my
• 15:50
  marriage,
• 15:51
  my
• 15:52
  internal
• 15:53
  version
• 15:53
  of
• 15:54
  what
• 15:54
  it
• 15:54
  was
• 15:54
  was
• 15:55
  crawling
• 15:55
  out
• 15:55
  of
• 15:55
  the
• 15:55
  house
• 15:56
  on
• 15:56
  my
• 15:56
  hands
• 15:56
  and
• 15:57
  knees
• 15:57
  and
• 15:57
  crawling
• 15:57
  into
• 15:58
  my
• 15:58
  car
• 15:59
  and
• 15:59
  driving
• 16:00
  off
• 16:00
  with
• 16:00
  one
• 16:01
  carload
• 16:01
  of
• 16:02
  stuff
• 16:02
  and
• 16:02
  my
• 16:03
  pets.
• 16:03
  Now,
• 16:04
  was
• 16:04
  I
• 16:05
  really
• 16:05
  crawling?
• 16:06
  No.
• 16:07
  But
• 16:07
  that
• 16:07
  is,
• 16:08
  I
• 16:08
  didn't
• 16:09
  leave
• 16:09
  because
• 16:09
  I
• 16:09
  had
• 16:10
  clarity.
• 16:11
  I
• 16:11
  didn't
• 16:11
  know
• 16:12
  I
• 16:12
  was
• 16:12
  being
• 16:12
  psychologically
• 16:13
  abused.
• 16:14
  I
• 16:14
  just
• 16:14
  knew.
• 16:15
  No,
• 16:16
  I
• 16:16
  didn't.
• 16:17
  I
• 16:17
  just
• 16:17
  knew
• 16:18
  that
• 16:19
  I
• 16:19
  was
• 16:19
  going
• 16:20
  to
• 16:20
  totally
• 16:21
  break
• 16:21
  if
• 16:21
  I
• 16:22
  didn't
• 16:22
  change
• 16:23
  something.
• 16:24
  And,
• 16:25
  and
• 16:25
  my
• 16:25
  wife
• 16:25
  wouldn't
• 16:26
  let
• 16:26
  me
• 16:26
  leave.
• 16:27
  And
• 16:27
  people
• 16:27
  go,
• 16:27
  what
• 16:27
  do
• 16:28
  you
• 16:28
  mean
• 16:28
  she
• 16:28
  wouldn't
• 16:28
  let
• 16:28
  you?
• 16:28
  Did
• 16:29
  she
• 16:29
  have
• 16:29
  a
• 16:29
  gun
• 16:29
  to
• 16:29
  your
• 16:29
  head?
• 16:30
  No,
• 16:30
  but
• 16:30
  it
• 16:30
  was
• 16:31
  money
• 16:31
  control.
• 16:32
  And
• 16:32
  again,
• 16:33
  I
• 16:33
  didn't
• 16:33
  know
• 16:34
  I
• 16:34
  had
• 16:35
  agency.
• 16:35
  I
• 16:35
  didn't
• 16:36
  know
• 16:36
  I
• 16:36
  had
• 16:36
  power.
• 16:38
  So
• 16:38
  I
• 16:39
  barely
• 16:39
  got
• 16:39
  out
• 16:40
  in
• 16:40
  a
• 16:40
  way
• 16:40
  in
• 16:41
  terms
• 16:41
  of
• 16:42
  the
• 16:43
  question
• 16:44
  that
• 16:44
  you
• 16:44
  were
• 16:44
  asking
• 16:45
  around,
• 16:45
  like
• 16:46
  familiarity
• 16:47
  and,
• 16:48
  you
• 16:48
  know,
• 16:48
  creating
• 16:49
  that
• 16:49
  change,
• 16:50
  you
• 16:50
  can't
• 16:50
  wait
• 16:51
  for
• 16:51
  clarity
• 16:51
  to
• 16:51
  leave.
• 16:52
  You'll
• 16:52
  never
• 16:52
  leave
• 16:53
  the,
• 16:55
  the
• 16:55
  thing
• 16:56
  that.
• 17:00
  So
• 17:01
  this
• 17:01
  isn't
• 17:01
  necessarily
• 17:02
  the
• 17:03
  advice
• 17:03
  I
• 17:04
  can
• 17:04
  give
• 17:04
  to
• 17:04
  somebody
• 17:05
  who's
• 17:05
  in
• 17:06
  that
• 17:07
  place
• 17:08
  because
• 17:08
  they
• 17:09
  can't
• 17:09
  hear
• 17:10
  this.
• 17:11
  So
• 17:11
  the
• 17:11
  only
• 17:12
  thing
• 17:12
  they
• 17:13
  can
• 17:13
  really
• 17:13
  do
• 17:14
  is
• 17:14
  survive.
• 17:15
  And
• 17:15
  to
• 17:16
  survive,
• 17:16
  it
• 17:17
  probably
• 17:17
  means
• 17:17
  to
• 17:17
  create
• 17:18
  a
• 17:18
  change.
• 17:19
  But
• 17:19
  the
• 17:20
  reason,
• 17:21
  in
• 17:21
  addition
• 17:21
  to
• 17:22
  that
• 17:22
  emotional
• 17:22
  sobriety
• 17:23
  thing
• 17:23
  that
• 17:24
  I
• 17:24
  was
• 17:24
  talking
• 17:24
  about,
• 17:25
  our
• 17:25
  brains
• 17:27
  are
• 17:27
  filter
• 17:27
  machines.
• 17:28
  So
• 17:29
  they
• 17:29
  are
• 17:29
  there
• 17:29
  to
• 17:30
  give
• 17:30
  us
• 17:30
  what
• 17:30
  we
• 17:31
  expect.
• 17:32
  We
• 17:33
  only
• 17:33
  perceive
• 17:33
  0.01%
• 17:35
  of
• 17:35
  what
• 17:36
  is
• 17:36
  actually
• 17:37
  in
• 17:37
  reality.
• 17:38
  In
• 17:39
  fact,
• 17:39
  it's
• 17:39
  actually
• 17:40
  more
• 17:40
  like
• 17:40
  0.00002%.
• 17:42
  But
• 17:43
  that's
• 17:43
  like
• 17:43
  too
• 17:43
  hard
• 17:44
  to
• 17:44
  even
• 17:44
  Begin
• 17:44
  to
• 17:45
  get
• 17:45
  your
• 17:45
  head
• 17:45
  around.
• 17:46
  So
• 17:46
  we
• 17:47
  only
• 17:47
  see
• 17:47
  0.01%
• 17:48
  of
• 17:48
  what's
• 17:49
  there
• 17:49
  there.
• 17:49
  So
• 17:50
  where's
• 17:50
  the
• 17:50
  rest
• 17:50
  of
• 17:50
  it?
• 17:51
  Well,
• 17:51
  our
• 17:51
  brain
• 17:51
  creates
• 17:52
  filters,
• 17:53
  and
• 17:53
  it
• 17:53
  creates
• 17:54
  these
• 17:54
  filters
• 17:55
  so
• 17:55
  that
• 17:55
  we
• 17:55
  don't
• 17:55
  lose
• 17:56
  our
• 17:56
  marbles,
• 17:56
  because
• 17:57
  if
• 17:57
  we
• 17:57
  could
• 17:57
  see
• 17:58
  100%
• 17:58
  of
• 17:59
  what
• 17:59
  was
• 17:59
  out
• 17:59
  there,
• 17:59
  we
• 18:00
  wouldn't
• 18:00
  be
• 18:00
  able
• 18:00
  to
• 18:00
  function
• 18:01
  in
• 18:01
  this
• 18:01
  world.
• 18:02
  Now,
• 18:02
  our
• 18:02
  brains
• 18:03
  are
• 18:03
  amazing,
• 18:03
  and
• 18:04
  they're
• 18:04
  very
• 18:04
  efficient,
• 18:05
  and
• 18:06
  they
• 18:07
  want
• 18:07
  to
• 18:07
  do
• 18:08
  their
• 18:08
  job
• 18:08
  as
• 18:08
  quickly
• 18:09
  as
• 18:09
  possible.
• 18:10
  Its
• 18:10
  job
• 18:10
  as
• 18:11
  quickly
• 18:11
  as
• 18:11
  possible.
• 18:12
  And
• 18:12
  so
• 18:12
  it
• 18:13
  will
• 18:14
  filter
• 18:14
  information
• 18:15
  to
• 18:15
  give
• 18:16
  us
• 18:16
  what
• 18:16
  we
• 18:16
  expect
• 18:16
  to
• 18:17
  see.
• 18:18
  So
• 18:18
  we
• 18:18
  see
• 18:18
  orange,
• 18:19
  right?
• 18:19
  And
• 18:20
  then
• 18:20
  we
• 18:21
  realize,
• 18:21
  oh,
• 18:21
  it's
• 18:21
  a
• 18:22
  fruit
• 18:22
  called
• 18:22
  an
• 18:22
  orange,
• 18:23
  right?
• 18:24
  So
• 18:25
  really,
• 18:26
  what
• 18:27
  to
• 18:27
  do
• 18:27
  to
• 18:28
  create
• 18:28
  transformation
• 18:30
  in
• 18:30
  your
• 18:30
  life?
• 18:31
  What
• 18:31
  you,
• 18:32
  what
• 18:32
  has
• 18:32
  to
• 18:33
  happen
• 18:33
  is
• 18:34
  you
• 18:34
  have
• 18:34
  to
• 18:34
  start
• 18:35
  to
• 18:35
  see
• 18:35
  the
• 18:35
  filter
• 18:36
  you've
• 18:36
  been
• 18:36
  seeing
• 18:36
  through.
• 18:37
  You
• 18:37
  have
• 18:37
  to
• 18:37
  start
• 18:38
  to
• 18:38
  see
• 18:38
  the
• 18:38
  lens
• 18:39
  you've
• 18:39
  been
• 18:40
  seeing
• 18:40
  through.
• 18:42
  And
• 18:42
  I
• 18:42
  have
• 18:43
  four.
• 18:44
  Four
• 18:44
  I
• 18:44
  call
• 18:44
  the
• 18:44
  mind
• 18:45
  expanding
• 18:45
  experiences
• 18:46
  because
• 18:46
  people
• 18:47
  are
• 18:47
  afraid
• 18:47
  of
• 18:47
  the
• 18:47
  word
• 18:48
  meditation.
• 18:49
  And
• 18:49
  that's
• 18:50
  a
• 18:50
  whole
• 18:50
  nother
• 18:50
  topic
• 18:51
  that
• 18:51
  we
• 18:51
  could
• 18:51
  have.
• 18:52
  But
• 18:53
  my
• 18:53
  mind
• 18:53
  expanding
• 18:54
  experiences,
• 18:55
  otherwise
• 18:55
  known
• 18:56
  as
• 18:56
  me
• 18:56
  squared,
• 18:58
  walk
• 18:58
  people
• 18:59
  through
• 19:01
  three
• 19:01
  different
• 19:01
  ways
• 19:02
  and
• 19:02
  then
• 19:02
  a
• 19:02
  combo
• 19:03
  way
• 19:03
  of
• 19:04
  experiencing
• 19:05
  that
• 19:05
  filter
• 19:06
  for
• 19:06
  themselves.
• 19:07
  So
• 19:07
  it
• 19:07
  takes
• 19:08
  them
• 19:08
  through
• 19:08
  a
• 19:08
  visual
• 19:09
  opportunity,
• 19:10
  a
• 19:11
  auditory
• 19:11
  opportunity,
• 19:12
  a
• 19:13
  physical,
• 19:13
  like,
• 19:13
  kinesthetic
• 19:14
  opportunity,
• 19:15
  and
• 19:15
  the
• 19:15
  one
• 19:15
  that's
• 19:16
  advanced,
• 19:16
  that
• 19:16
  combines
• 19:17
  all
• 19:17
  of
• 19:17
  them.
• 19:18
  It's
• 19:18
  just
• 19:18
  10
• 19:19
  to
• 19:19
  15
• 19:19
  minutes,
• 19:20
  depending
• 19:20
  on
• 19:21
  which
• 19:21
  one
• 19:22
  you're
• 19:22
  listening
• 19:22
  to.
• 19:23
  And
• 19:24
  they
• 19:25
  are
• 19:25
  designed
• 19:26
  to
• 19:26
  help
• 19:26
  you
• 19:26
  realize,
• 19:27
  oh,
• 19:27
  there's
• 19:28
  so
• 19:28
  much
• 19:28
  more.
• 19:29
  Because
• 19:30
  once
• 19:30
  you
• 19:31
  realize
• 19:31
  there's
• 19:32
  more,
• 19:33
  you
• 19:34
  can
• 19:34
  then
• 19:35
  tell
• 19:36
  the
• 19:36
  filter
• 19:37
  to
• 19:37
  give
• 19:37
  you
• 19:37
  what
• 19:37
  you
• 19:38
  want
• 19:39
  instead
• 19:39
  of
• 19:39
  what
• 19:39
  it
• 19:40
  expects.
• 19:41
  So
• 19:41
  people
• 19:41
  talk
• 19:41
  about
• 19:42
  manifestation,
• 19:43
  and
• 19:44
  you
• 19:44
  don't
• 19:44
  really
• 19:44
  have
• 19:45
  to
• 19:45
  manifest
• 19:45
  anything
• 19:46
  because
• 19:46
  everything's
• 19:46
  there.
• 19:47
  It's
• 19:48
  just
• 19:48
  that
• 19:48
  your
• 19:48
  brain
• 19:48
  is
• 19:49
  filtering
• 19:49
  out
• 19:50
  the
• 19:50
  stuff
• 19:50
  you
• 19:51
  want
• 19:52
  and
• 19:52
  giving
• 19:52
  you
• 19:52
  the
• 19:53
  stuff
• 19:53
  you
• 19:54
  expect.
• 19:54
  Oh,
• 19:55
  you
• 19:55
  have
• 19:55
  to
• 19:56
  shift
• 19:56
  that
• 19:56
  filter.
• 19:56
  In
• 19:57
  order
• 19:57
  to
• 19:57
  shift
• 19:57
  the
• 19:57
  filter,
• 19:58
  you
• 19:58
  have
• 19:58
  to
• 19:58
  see
• 19:58
  the
• 19:59
  filter.
• 20:00
  And
• 20:01
  how
• 20:01
  does
• 20:01
  that
• 20:01
  filter
• 20:02
  show
• 20:02
  up?
• 20:04
  What
• 20:04
  do
• 20:04
  you
• 20:04
  mean
• 20:04
  by
• 20:04
  how
• 20:05
  does
• 20:05
  it
• 20:05
  show
• 20:05
  up?
• 20:06
  I
• 20:06
  mean,
• 20:07
  how
• 20:07
  do
• 20:07
  you,
• 20:09
  how
• 20:09
  do
• 20:09
  you
• 20:09
  know
• 20:09
  that
• 20:10
  you're
• 20:10
  dealing
• 20:10
  with
• 20:11
  that,
• 20:11
  that
• 20:12
  filter?
• 20:12
  You
• 20:13
  start
• 20:13
  to
• 20:13
  see
• 20:13
  things
• 20:14
  differently
• 20:14
  or
• 20:15
  experience
• 20:15
  things
• 20:16
  differently.
• 20:16
  Or
• 20:16
  you
• 20:17
  mean
• 20:17
  like
• 20:17
  through
• 20:17
  my
• 20:17
  mind
• 20:18
  expanding
• 20:18
  experiences?
• 20:19
  Is
• 20:19
  that
• 20:19
  what
• 20:20
  you're.
• 20:20
  Oh,
• 20:21
  so
• 20:21
  like,
• 20:22
  for
• 20:22
  the
• 20:22
  visual
• 20:22
  one?
• 20:23
  Well,
• 20:24
  let's
• 20:24
  do
• 20:24
  the
• 20:25
  hearing
• 20:25
  one.
• 20:26
  I
• 20:26
  think
• 20:26
  that's
• 20:26
  the
• 20:26
  easiest
• 20:27
  one
• 20:27
  to
• 20:27
  talk
• 20:27
  about
• 20:28
  without
• 20:28
  experiencing
• 20:29
  it.
• 20:29
  Okay,
• 20:30
  so
• 20:30
  the
• 20:30
  hearing
• 20:31
  one,
• 20:31
  the
• 20:31
  auditory
• 20:32
  one,
• 20:32
  and
• 20:32
  has
• 20:33
  you
• 20:33
  pick
• 20:33
  a
• 20:33
  sound
• 20:34
  and
• 20:36
  really
• 20:37
  experience
• 20:37
  that
• 20:37
  sound.
• 20:38
  And
• 20:38
  then
• 20:38
  I
• 20:39
  ask
• 20:39
  the
• 20:39
  question,
• 20:40
  was
• 20:40
  that
• 20:40
  sound
• 20:40
  there
• 20:41
  before
• 20:42
  you
• 20:43
  found
• 20:44
  it,
• 20:44
  before
• 20:44
  you
• 20:44
  Started
• 20:44
  listening
• 20:45
  to
• 20:45
  it.
• 20:45
  And
• 20:46
  then
• 20:46
  I
• 20:46
  tell
• 20:46
  you
• 20:46
  to
• 20:47
  pick
• 20:47
  another
• 20:47
  sound.
• 20:48
  And
• 20:49
  I
• 20:49
  ask
• 20:50
  the
• 20:50
  same
• 20:50
  question.
• 20:50
  And
• 20:51
  then
• 20:51
  I
• 20:51
  tell
• 20:51
  you
• 20:52
  to
• 20:52
  hold
• 20:52
  both
• 20:52
  sounds
• 20:53
  together
• 20:54
  at
• 20:54
  the
• 20:54
  same
• 20:54
  time.
• 20:55
  And
• 20:55
  then
• 20:55
  I
• 20:55
  tell
• 20:56
  you
• 20:56
  to
• 20:57
  identify
• 20:58
  a
• 20:58
  sound
• 20:59
  that
• 20:59
  is
• 20:59
  a
• 20:59
  continuous
• 21:00
  sound.
• 21:01
  So
• 21:01
  like
• 21:01
  leaves
• 21:02
  rustling,
• 21:02
  wind
• 21:03
  blowing,
• 21:03
  refrigerator
• 21:04
  humming,
• 21:05
  fan
• 21:06
  sound,
• 21:07
  something
• 21:07
  continuous.
• 21:09
  So
• 21:09
  again,
• 21:09
  was
• 21:09
  that
• 21:10
  there
• 21:11
  before
• 21:11
  you
• 21:11
  paid
• 21:12
  attention
• 21:12
  to
• 21:12
  it?
• 21:13
  And
• 21:13
  then
• 21:13
  I
• 21:13
  say
• 21:13
  pick
• 21:14
  another
• 21:14
  sound.
• 21:14
  And
• 21:15
  then
• 21:15
  I
• 21:15
  point
• 21:15
  out
• 21:16
  now
• 21:16
  when
• 21:16
  I
• 21:16
  say
• 21:17
  pick
• 21:17
  another
• 21:17
  sound,
• 21:18
  your
• 21:18
  brain
• 21:19
  searches,
• 21:20
  finds
• 21:20
  another
• 21:21
  sound.
• 21:22
  So
• 21:22
  was
• 21:23
  that
• 21:23
  sound
• 21:24
  there
• 21:25
  before
• 21:26
  I
• 21:26
  told
• 21:26
  you
• 21:27
  to
• 21:27
  find
• 21:27
  it?
• 21:28
  So
• 21:28
  it's
• 21:28
  that
• 21:28
  sort
• 21:29
  of
• 21:29
  process
• 21:30
  that
• 21:30
  makes
• 21:30
  you
• 21:30
  go,
• 21:31
  oh,
• 21:31
  oh
• 21:31
  my
• 21:32
  God.
• 21:32
  Like
• 21:32
  that
• 21:32
  sound
• 21:33
  is
• 21:33
  always
• 21:33
  there.
• 21:34
  And
• 21:34
  I
• 21:34
  filter
• 21:35
  it
• 21:35
  out.
• 21:35
  That
• 21:36
  sound
• 21:36
  is
• 21:36
  there,
• 21:36
  that
• 21:37
  sound
• 21:37
  is
• 21:37
  there.
• 21:38
  So
• 21:38
  it
• 21:38
  starts
• 21:38
  to
• 21:38
  give
• 21:39
  you
• 21:39
  this
• 21:39
  really
• 21:40
  hands
• 21:40
  on
• 21:42
  realization
• 21:43
  that
• 21:43
  there's
• 21:43
  so
• 21:43
  much
• 21:44
  more
• 21:44
  going
• 21:44
  on
• 21:44
  than
• 21:44
  what
• 21:45
  you're
• 21:45
  taking
• 21:45
  in.
• 21:46
  So
• 21:46
  if
• 21:46
  that
• 21:47
  sound
• 21:47
  has
• 21:48
  always
• 21:48
  been
• 21:48
  there
• 21:48
  and
• 21:49
  you
• 21:49
  filtered
• 21:49
  it
• 21:49
  out,
• 21:49
  well
• 21:50
  then
• 21:50
  what
• 21:50
  else
• 21:50
  are
• 21:50
  you
• 21:50
  filtering
• 21:51
  out?
• 21:52
  So
• 21:53
  does
• 21:53
  the
• 21:53
  sound
• 21:54
  create
• 21:55
  the
• 21:55
  tree
• 21:55
  that's
• 21:55
  in
• 21:55
  the
• 21:56
  forest?
• 21:56
  Exactly.
• 21:57
  Exactly.
• 22:00
  So
• 22:02
  any
• 22:02
  thoughts?
• 22:03
  Adam?
• 22:04
  When
• 22:04
  you
• 22:04
  say
• 22:05
  transformation,
• 22:05
  it
• 22:06
  reminds
• 22:06
  me
• 22:06
  of
• 22:06
  Taoist
• 22:07
  philosophy
• 22:08
  and
• 22:08
  the
• 22:09
  philosopher
• 22:09
  Chuangzi.
• 22:11
  And
• 22:11
  when
• 22:12
  you,
• 22:12
  the
• 22:13
  way
• 22:13
  you're
• 22:13
  describing
• 22:14
  is
• 22:14
  like,
• 22:15
  we
• 22:15
  have
• 22:15
  to
• 22:15
  see
• 22:16
  our
• 22:16
  highest
• 22:16
  self.
• 22:17
  Right?
• 22:17
  And
• 22:17
  earlier,
• 22:18
  your
• 22:18
  universal
• 22:19
  stuff,
• 22:19
  he
• 22:19
  has
• 22:19
  some
• 22:20
  really
• 22:20
  interesting
• 22:20
  image
• 22:21
  images
• 22:22
  about
• 22:22
  that.
• 22:22
  He.
• 22:23
  And
• 22:23
  when
• 22:23
  you're
• 22:23
  talking
• 22:23
  about
• 22:24
  the
• 22:24
  different
• 22:24
  exercises
• 22:25
  and
• 22:25
  he
• 22:25
  doesn't,
• 22:26
  he
• 22:26
  actually
• 22:27
  says
• 22:27
  something
• 22:27
  similar.
• 22:28
  Sitting
• 22:29
  and
• 22:29
  forgetting
• 22:30
  and
• 22:30
  I
• 22:30
  forgot
• 22:31
  myself.
• 22:31
  So
• 22:32
  that
• 22:32
  you
• 22:32
  forget,
• 22:33
  you
• 22:33
  forget
• 22:33
  the
• 22:33
  filter.
• 22:34
  So
• 22:34
  he
• 22:34
  has
• 22:34
  one,
• 22:36
  he
• 22:37
  has
• 22:37
  one
• 22:37
  story
• 22:37
  where
• 22:37
  he
• 22:38
  says,
• 22:39
  I
• 22:39
  fell
• 22:39
  asleep
• 22:40
  in
• 22:40
  the,
• 22:40
  in
• 22:40
  the,
• 22:40
  in
• 22:41
  the
• 22:41
  woods.
• 22:42
  I
• 22:42
  dreamt
• 22:43
  I
• 22:43
  was
• 22:43
  a
• 22:43
  butterfly.
• 22:44
  I
• 22:44
  woke
• 22:45
  up,
• 22:45
  I
• 22:45
  didn't
• 22:46
  know
• 22:46
  if
• 22:46
  I
• 22:46
  was
• 22:47
  Chuang
• 22:47
  Tzu
• 22:47
  dreaming
• 22:48
  I
• 22:48
  was
• 22:48
  a
• 22:48
  butterfly
• 22:49
  or
• 22:49
  a
• 22:49
  butterfly
• 22:49
  dreaming
• 22:50
  I
• 22:50
  was
• 22:50
  Chuang
• 22:50
  Zi.
• 22:50
  This
• 22:51
  is
• 22:51
  like
• 22:51
  an
• 22:51
  example
• 22:51
  of
• 22:52
  forget
• 22:52
  yourself.
• 22:53
  Yes.
• 22:54
  So
• 22:55
  I
• 22:55
  love
• 22:55
  that
• 22:55
  because
• 22:56
  actually
• 22:57
  my
• 22:57
  belief,
• 22:58
  my
• 22:58
  philosophy
• 22:59
  is
• 23:00
  that
• 23:01
  we
• 23:02
  come
• 23:02
  here
• 23:04
  intentionally
• 23:05
  forgetting
• 23:06
  and
• 23:07
  our
• 23:07
  whole
• 23:07
  job
• 23:08
  here
• 23:09
  is
• 23:09
  to
• 23:09
  remember.
• 23:11
  That's
• 23:12
  what
• 23:12
  our
• 23:12
  job
• 23:12
  is,
• 23:13
  it's
• 23:13
  to
• 23:14
  remember.
• 23:15
  And
• 23:15
  I
• 23:15
  help
• 23:16
  people
• 23:16
  remember
• 23:17
  the
• 23:17
  past,
• 23:18
  but
• 23:18
  I
• 23:18
  also
• 23:19
  help
• 23:19
  people
• 23:20
  remember
• 23:20
  the
• 23:21
  future
• 23:22
  because
• 23:22
  there's
• 23:23
  no
• 23:23
  such
• 23:23
  thing
• 23:23
  as
• 23:24
  time.
• 23:25
  So
• 23:25
  we
• 23:25
  are
• 23:26
  our
• 23:26
  future
• 23:26
  self
• 23:27
  right
• 23:27
  now.
• 23:28
  And
• 23:28
  that's
• 23:28
  what
• 23:29
  my
• 23:29
  integration
• 23:30
  section
• 23:30
  gets
• 23:31
  into.
• 23:31
  It's
• 23:32
  the
• 23:32
  concept
• 23:33
  of
• 23:33
  retro
• 23:33
  causality
• 23:34
  and
• 23:35
  the
• 23:35
  artificial
• 23:36
  construct
• 23:36
  of
• 23:36
  time
• 23:37
  and
• 23:37
  consciousness
• 23:38
  and
• 23:40
  that
• 23:42
  your
• 23:43
  story
• 23:44
  is
• 23:45
  probably
• 23:46
  not
• 23:46
  serving
• 23:47
  your
• 23:47
  future
• 23:47
  self.
• 23:48
  The
• 23:49
  best
• 23:49
  way
• 23:50
  to
• 23:51
  transform
• 23:52
  is
• 23:53
  to
• 23:53
  ask
• 23:53
  yourself,
• 23:54
  is
• 23:55
  are,
• 23:55
  are
• 23:56
  you?
• 23:56
  What
• 23:56
  is
• 23:57
  your
• 23:57
  future
• 23:57
  self
• 23:58
  doing
• 23:58
  today?
• 23:58
  And
• 23:59
  then
• 23:59
  do
• 23:59
  that,
• 24:00
  like
• 24:00
  be
• 24:00
  that.
• 24:01
  And
• 24:01
  if
• 24:01
  you're
• 24:02
  that,
• 24:02
  then
• 24:02
  you're
• 24:02
  already
• 24:03
  your
• 24:03
  future
• 24:03
  self.
• 24:05
  So
• 24:05
  you
• 24:05
  don't
• 24:05
  have
• 24:05
  to
• 24:06
  wait
• 24:06
  10
• 24:06
  years
• 24:07
  to
• 24:08
  do
• 24:08
  whatever
• 24:09
  it
• 24:09
  is
• 24:09
  your
• 24:10
  true
• 24:10
  self
• 24:10
  tells
• 24:11
  you
• 24:11
  you're
• 24:11
  supposed
• 24:11
  to
• 24:12
  do.
• 24:12
  You
• 24:12
  can
• 24:12
  do
• 24:12
  that
• 24:13
  today.
• 24:13
  You
• 24:13
  can
• 24:14
  be
• 24:14
  that
• 24:14
  now.
• 24:16
  Yeah.
• 24:17
  While
• 24:18
  you
• 24:18
  were
• 24:18
  talking
• 24:18
  about.
• 24:18
  It's
• 24:19
  almost
• 24:19
  like
• 24:19
  you,
• 24:20
  you
• 24:21
  forget
• 24:22
  to
• 24:22
  remember
• 24:23
  and
• 24:23
  you
• 24:24
  have
• 24:24
  to
• 24:24
  remember
• 24:24
  to
• 24:24
  forget.
• 24:25
  Yeah,
• 24:26
  yeah.
• 24:27
  But
• 24:27
  then
• 24:27
  you
• 24:28
  could
• 24:28
  see,
• 24:28
  you
• 24:28
  could
• 24:29
  see
• 24:29
  yourself
• 24:30
  from
• 24:30
  different
• 24:30
  perspectives,
• 24:31
  right.
• 24:31
  And
• 24:31
  you
• 24:31
  could
• 24:32
  see
• 24:32
  your
• 24:33
  past
• 24:33
  self,
• 24:33
  your
• 24:34
  current
• 24:34
  self,
• 24:34
  your
• 24:35
  feelings,
• 24:35
  emotions,
• 24:36
  your,
• 24:36
  Your
• 24:36
  ego,
• 24:37
  your
• 24:37
  future
• 24:37
  self,
• 24:38
  all
• 24:38
  from
• 24:38
  a
• 24:38
  higher
• 24:39
  perspective.
• 24:39
  And
• 24:39
  then
• 24:39
  you
• 24:40
  have
• 24:40
  time
• 24:40
  and
• 24:40
  space
• 24:40
  to
• 24:40
  kind
• 24:41
  of
• 24:41
  process
• 24:41
  and
• 24:41
  pick
• 24:42
  and
• 24:42
  choose.
• 24:42
  Earlier
• 24:43
  you're
• 24:43
  talking
• 24:43
  about,
• 24:43
  you
• 24:44
  can.
• 24:44
  You
• 24:44
  go
• 24:44
  and
• 24:44
  you
• 24:45
  put
• 24:45
  on
• 24:45
  a
• 24:45
  mask.
• 24:45
  But
• 24:45
  you.
• 24:45
  But
• 24:46
  this
• 24:46
  time
• 24:46
  you're
• 24:46
  mindful
• 24:47
  of
• 24:47
  putting
• 24:47
  on
• 24:47
  your
• 24:48
  mask.
• 24:48
  You
• 24:48
  know,
• 24:49
  you're
• 24:49
  putting
• 24:49
  on
• 24:49
  a
• 24:49
  mask.
• 24:50
  This
• 24:50
  is
• 24:50
  like.
• 24:50
  We
• 24:50
  cultivate
• 24:51
  a
• 24:51
  self
• 24:52
  for
• 24:52
  a
• 24:52
  purpose.
• 24:53
  And
• 24:54
  so
• 24:54
  in
• 24:54
  Confucian
• 24:54
  philosophy,
• 24:55
  they
• 24:55
  also
• 24:55
  have,
• 24:56
  like,
• 24:56
  you
• 24:56
  cultivate
• 24:56
  yourself
• 24:57
  for
• 24:58
  this
• 24:59
  world.
• 24:59
  You
• 24:59
  make
• 25:00
  a.
• 25:00
  You
• 25:00
  make
• 25:00
  an
• 25:00
  ego,
• 25:01
  you
• 25:01
  make
• 25:01
  a
• 25:01
  life
• 25:02
  for
• 25:02
  this
• 25:02
  world.
• 25:03
  You
• 25:03
  want
• 25:03
  to
• 25:03
  help
• 25:03
  this
• 25:03
  world.
• 25:04
  I
• 25:04
  know
• 25:04
  I've,
• 25:05
  I've
• 25:05
  heard
• 25:05
  from
• 25:05
  you
• 25:06
  that
• 25:06
  you
• 25:06
  have
• 25:06
  a
• 25:07
  strong
• 25:07
  sense
• 25:07
  of
• 25:07
  that,
• 25:07
  that
• 25:08
  you're
• 25:08
  called
• 25:08
  to
• 25:08
  do
• 25:08
  this
• 25:09
  work
• 25:09
  and
• 25:09
  you're
• 25:10
  cultivating
• 25:10
  a
• 25:10
  self
• 25:11
  for
• 25:11
  doing
• 25:11
  this
• 25:12
  work.
• 25:12
  Is
• 25:12
  that
• 25:12
  right?
• 25:12
  Yes,
• 25:13
  yes,
• 25:13
  100%.
• 25:14
  Yeah.
• 25:15
  Well,
• 25:15
  I'm
• 25:16
  sorry
• 25:16
  to
• 25:16
  say
• 25:16
  that
• 25:16
  we're
• 25:17
  running
• 25:17
  out
• 25:17
  of
• 25:17
  time.
• 25:17
  Darn
• 25:18
  it.
• 25:19
  But
• 25:20
  that's
• 25:21
  the
• 25:21
  other
• 25:21
  thing,
• 25:21
  is
• 25:22
  that
• 25:22
  you
• 25:22
  do
• 25:23
  have
• 25:23
  a
• 25:24
  website
• 25:24
  where
• 25:24
  you
• 25:25
  can
• 25:25
  chat
• 25:25
  with
• 25:25
  people.
• 25:27
  I'm
• 25:28
  Anthony
• 25:28
  Wright
• 25:28
  and
• 25:28
  I've
• 25:29
  been
• 25:29
  your
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  co
• 25:29
  host
• 25:29
  today
• 25:30
  on
• 25:30
  the
• 25:30
  Living
• 25:30
  Conversation
• 25:32
  with
• 25:32
  Adam
• 25:33
  Dietz.
• 25:33
  Thanks
• 25:33
  for
• 25:34
  joining
• 25:34
  the
• 25:34
  conversation.
• 25:35
  Yeah.
• 25:35
  And
• 25:36
  how
• 25:36
  can
• 25:36
  people
• 25:36
  contact
• 25:37
  you
• 25:37
  and
• 25:38
  have
• 25:38
  a
• 25:38
  good
• 25:38
  conversation?
• 25:39
  Well,
• 25:40
  I,
• 25:40
  I
• 25:40
  love
• 25:40
  chatting.
• 25:41
  I
• 25:41
  love
• 25:41
  talking.
• 25:42
  And
• 25:42
  you
• 25:42
  can
• 25:42
  go
• 25:43
  to
• 25:43
  u20.com
• 25:45
  y
• 25:46
  o
• 25:46
  u
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  the
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  number
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  two,
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  the
• 25:47
  word
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  point
• 25:48
  the
• 25:48
  number
• 25:48
  zero
• 25:49
  dot
• 25:49
  com
• 25:50
  and
• 25:50
  we
• 25:50
  can
• 25:50
  chat
• 25:51
  and
• 25:51
  it's
• 25:51
  free.
• 25:52
  It's
• 25:52
  just
• 25:53
  time
• 25:53
  to
• 25:53
  get
• 25:54
  to
• 25:54
  know
• 25:54
  each
• 25:54
  other
• 25:54
  and
• 25:54
  explore
• 25:55
  the
• 25:55
  world.
• 25:56
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• 25:57
  take
• 25:57
  all
• 25:57
  the
• 25:57
  time
• 25:57
  we
• 25:57
  need
• 25:58
  in
• 25:58
  the
• 25:58
  next
• 25:58
  moment.
• 25:59
  Exactly.
• 26:00
  All
• 26:00
  right,
• 26:00
  thank
• 26:00
  you
• 26:00
  guys
• 26:00
  so
• 26:01
  much
• 26:01
  for
• 26:01
  listening
• 26:01
  and
• 26:03
  we'll
• 26:03
  see
• 26:04
  you
• 26:04
  next
• 26:04
  time.